Auburn WA celebrates "like they did in the Good Ol' Days"
Auburn WA’s annual Good Ol’ Days celebration advertises itself as a “Rip Roarin’ Whoop Dee Doo” in which locals “Celebrate like they did in the Good Ol’ Days!”
Well judging from this photo snapped by HA reader Kevin Barry at yesterday’s Grand Parade, way back in the Good Ol’ Days, Auburn was apparently a part of the Good Ol’ Confederacy. Huh. Who knew?
Struck by the incongruity of seeing a Confederate flag proudly paraded down the streets of Auburn (followed only a few moments later by a glad-handing Dino Rossi), Barry forwarded his pictures to Auburn City Council members and event organizers, asking if there is “really a rash of southern pride and confederate heritage here in the deep Northwest?”
To which Auburn Mayor Pete Lewis promptly responded:
“That was part of the Optimists public remembrance march for a very good and kind man named Joe Jenkins. Good Old Days is a privately run and funded event and the Optimists were paying tribute to a fallen hero.”
Joe Jenkins was apparently a longtime local volunteer and community leader whose contributions are no doubt worth honoring, but unless he was “a fallen hero” of the Civil War — and, you know, fought for the South — I fail to see the appropriateness of remembering him with a Confederate flag.
In Auburn, Alabama maybe. But Auburn, Washington… not so much.
And while I suppose the Optimist Club has the right to parade a Confederate flag down public streets — free speech, and all that — it’s had to imagine why Mayor Lewis would defend it, so callously dismissing Barry’s legitimate concerns. To many Americans, the Confederate flag is a symbol of racism, oppression and hatred, especially when displayed outside the cultural milieu of the Deep South. So if Joe Jenkins was as “good and kind” as Mayor Lewis says he was, would this really be how he wanted to be remembered?
Or maybe, as a relative newcomer to the region, I simply have no idea what the “Good Ol’ Days” were like in cities like Auburn?
WTF?
So it is OK to celebrate the confederacy but NOT to erect a Muslim community center?
Treason.
Was there any lynchings?
Optimists for bringing back slavery!!
Hip hip hooray!
As a member of a family which has been in the Pacific Northwest for more than 100 years, I’d like to reassure you that the celebration of a Confederate flag has had no appropriate place here, ever. And, yes, although we honor freedom of expression, the Confederacy and what that flag stands for was an economy which rose on the backs of slaves and a mindset which furthered the persecution of Catholics and Jews as well. Those notions are not somehow ‘honorably’ American.
But Goldy, about the WTO riots, you told us that a small fraction of rioting anarchists can’t take-away from the greater peaceful protest. You said that the majority of people who attended the protests are in no way tainted by a few bad apples who also attended. You said that just because they were at the same event, that doesn’t mean the peaceful protesters, either directly or indirectly, approved of the non-peaceful protesters actions.
But now you seem to be saying Dino, by being at the same event where someone is carrying a confederate flag, is somehow tainted by this.
It seems like you aren’t being consistent in your logic.
Also, you keep telling us not to vote for Dino, and we don’t. We vote for the people you suggest. But your recommendations don’t ever seem to turn out so great.
Why should we still keep listening to you?
Two words:
Sundown town.
This is just a bunch of Teabaggers trying to get a rise out of the ‘liberal’ NW. Their only purpose was to stir the pot.
Auburn seems to have more than their fair share of these neanderthals.
But what do you expect from redneck backwater knuckle draggers who haven’t the cranial real estate nor the basic human desire to learn what a horrible symbol that flag is. To them it’s just another proud banner to wave around as an excuse to drink too much, drive loud cars and beat their kids.
Stereotype? You bet!
Like the stereotype that all fish are wet.
I guess me catching Goldy flip-flopping again has him at a loss for words.
Can anyone else why Goldy is so frequently inconsistent in his views?
Governor Gregoire is from Auburn, WA. Now I understand the context of this story:
http://community.seattletimes......g=naacp25m
@11
Good point. Gregoire is the original local teabagger. Wasn’t she President of a racist sorority that didn’t allow black members?
And didn’t Goldy tell us to vote for her?
What’s the fuss? Dino’s just out there shoring up the base or taking it from more honest representatives of the base like Didier.
Some of the base apparently dreams of secession. Well hell, some of the base has believed that for years in places like Alaska.
YLB @ 13:
Yea, what about this lady’s participation?
I don’t agree with displaying the confederate flag, but I’d be careful with this guilt by association business. Using this same logic, then the righties can legitimately use that whole stupid “Obama’s pastor” crap.
@13
I don’t dream of secession. I would like to see America split on two. One side for Republicans, and one side for Democrats. Two separate countries. Which country would you want to live in? The one with Muslims, Blacks, and Illegals, or the one with good, honest, wholesome, Norman Rockwellian/Leave it to Beaver-type people?
And even though I’m a Democrat, I would want to live in the Republican half.
Democrat Robert Byrd, wasn’t he in the KKK?
And isn’t the Rev. Fred Phelps a registered Democrat?
Yep. Just looked it up.
“Phelps ran for governor of Kansas as a Democrat in 1990, 1994, and 1998.[9] Phelps received 31% of the vote in Kansas’s 1992 Democratic Party primary for U.S. Senate.[10] In 1993 Phelps ran for mayor of Topeka. and 1997. [11][12] He supported Al Gore in the 1988 primaries.”
Goldy: I’d like to see the whole exchange between Mr. Barry and Mayor Lewis. Was the flag part of the Optimists’ official parade entry? Did you or Mr. Barry try to contact the Optimists?
I get very bothered by folks wanting to criticize a whole community by the actions of a very few, and I especially don’t like trying to bring in Rossi on it. I have no love for Rossi, but this isn’t fair, especially when you ignore DelBene’s attendance.
14 – No guilt by association. Only in the minds of right wingers.
The contest between Rossi and Didier and the rest has been grand entertainment. I’m thinking of throwing the lever for Didier myself.
The more Patty Murray does for this State, the more she is hated by the right even though they may benefit. No good deed goes unpunished I guess.
We could just go in there and burn the town down.
You know, like in the good ol’ days.
Sounds like a Saturday Night Live sketch.
The South awaits troll. Overwhelmingly Republican just as it was at one time solidly D.
Just show them your calling card when you’re down there:
http://horsesass.org/?p=18877#comment-936965
They’ll welcome you with open arms. And switching parties will be the natural next step for you.
Someone should organize this event in Auburn on Sept. 12:
http://sites.google.com/site/burnrebelflagday/
Hi-Ho…Taker of the photos here.
I actually mentioned to Goldy when I sent them that to be fair, there were a handful of Dems in the parade too.
I think they should all (Reichert, Rossi, Raoch, DelBene et al) “refudiate” or, as Pete Lewis did, explain why it’s O.K. to march down the street with the confederate flag. I don’t blame any of them. The positioning of Dino in the parade order makes it impossible to beleive he didn’t see it. Reichert was at least 10 minutes ahead, Roach and Del Bene at least 15 minutes behind.
The parade MC was a chamber of commerce guy who talked about what an asset to the community Joe Jenkins was but ignored the flag. Why is it there? What about Jenkins makes the Confederate flag appropriate?
@16 Troo
Itsa deal.
We get MIT, Harvard, Wall Street, Chicago, WA, Oregon, Cal, Stanfors, Berkely, Silicon Valley, Boeing, MS, All the Bioetech.
You get?
In 2009 we dedicated the parade to Joe Jenkins Auburn’s direct line to Santa Claus, builder of Honey Buckets, leader of the Optimist Club of Auburn, author, advertising genius and champion of children.
They don’t explain how a confederate flag works into the equation. If he was a Southern his state flag would have been more appropriate. Otherwise Auburn is essentially saying Joe Jenkins is a well known racist.
@18
Here’s the text of what I sent to the event organizers and to the city officials. Goldy quoted Mayor Lewis’ response verbatim.
“Free speech is fine, but your parade MC maybe should have not kept silent. Is there really a rash of southern pride and confederate heritage here in the deep Northwest? Absolutely disgusting. I’ve been to my first, and last Auburn festival and spent my last dollar in your city.
Nothing like racists at your parade.”
I attached several photos as well that were re-posted by Goldy.
Have at it if you think I’m in the wrong or that the mayor tried to justify the group.
Auburn’s history came from settlers from Auburn NY in the early 1890s. Before that it was called Slaughter after a LT Slaughter killed by a first nations uprising in 1855. There are, in the public records, very few residents from the South at all, and most of those are post 1960. They must be all the members of the Auburn Optimists.
I’m going to step out of this now. I don’t think I’m really part of the controversy. I just report, you decide.
Kevin Barry @ 26: Thanks for the post. While I share in your disgust with the flag, I don’t think it’s fair to boycott an entire community because of a couple of stupid people in a parade. I’ve seen plenty of racist behavior in Seattle proper, but that doesn’t mean everyone there is racist or that I’m not going to shop/go there.
That said, I am glad you called them on it.
@29
That’s a fair point. But “official” Auburn seems to condone it. The Auburn Chamber of commerce, Auburn School district and the city were all event sponsors. So if the business community and the elected representatives are O.K. with it, either the community needs to take a stand or agree that it was O.K.
(Shit, I said I was taking a step back.)
Kevin @ 30: I understand, but I took Mayor Lewis’ reply as an explanation, not a endorsement or condoning. Personally, I’d send these photos to the Optimists in Auburn and their international. As their own purpose statement says:
I don’t think a confederate flag in their official parade entry lives up to their own statement.
No more Confederate flags. They should be ashamed.
Save the date!
Washington’s own patriotboy at Jesus’s General is sponsoring a Confederate Flag Burning on September 12th, 2010.
A perfect way to fuck with the TEAtwits!
Here: http://sites.google.com/site/burnrebelflagday/
and here: http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/
Goldy, HA should sponsor a Seattle area / local effort; hopefully adjacent to a local BecKKKerhead 912 event.
BTW: I was at a progressive event in Kent last night. ~2000 progressives paid $25 and up to be there.
The Teahadists have been lucky to get 200 people to show up for free!
Hey, good news! I was just phone solicited by the Dino Rossi for Senate campaign.
I’m a life-long Democrat who thinks Rossi is a scumbag, and my wife is the local precinct officer for the Democrats in our district.
If they’re calling here, I can’t imagine how badly filtered their list is, and how much money they are wasting!
Awesome.
Goldy, you can’t have it both ways.
Your intolerlance of free speech and freedom is puzzling given – http://horsesass.org/?p=29080
Lets play a game;
And while I suppose the (SOHO Properties group, Cordova project and Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf) has the right to (build a mosque near ground zero ) — free (religion) and all that — it’s had to imagine why (President Obama) would defend it, so callously dismissing (all those families, friends, love ones and survivors of 9/11) legitimate concerns. To many Americans, the (Mosque) is a symbol of racism, oppression and hatred, especially when displayed (right next to the site of the single greateast terrorist assault by fanatical muslims). So if (muslims were)as “good and kind” as (Barack Obama) says (they are), would this really be how he wants (those who died, survived or lost loved ones) to be remembered?
They have the right to display their flag, whatever flag that happens to be. The same applies to the group wanting to build a mosque near WTC. Many people find both distasteful, the mayor rightly supports their freedom to do so.
@36
That is the densest posting I’ve ever seen. Yo mama must have raised you next to a black hole to be that dense.
@37
pretty much what I’d expect. Name calling when you got nothing else.
I think the confederate flag is a fashion statement that has been stripped of whatever meaning, good or bad, that it once had. I really doubt that anyone involved in the parade is pro-slavery or any sort of segregationist, or racist.
confederate flag=hate speech. simple. all the pols who marched knowing of the flag should be called out and voted against.
Low information voters, i.e. teabaggers have yet another appropriate moniker:
DUMBASSES..
will the auburn little leaguers be wearing confederate flag patches at the ll world series?
Check this out.
Anybody else interested in participating in Burn the Confederate Flag Day?
Oops – sorry Zotz, I didn’t see your post above about BTCFD.
It’s just a red neck fashion show. Should we be all up in arms because they’re wearing “wife beaters?”
@44, LS: No problem!
I’d love to help organize something. It’d be great if it was an HA sponsored event locally (hint, Goldy).
Some fuckwad who lives down the way from me was flying the hate flag this weekend. It really pissed me off. I’m ready for some yippy/hippy street theater! It’s been a long time and it’s about time.
@36, FullofRightWingShit:
I’m with 2cents — that is the stoopidest, pile of bullshit, incoherence I’ve seen in a while. You’ve got Pudpuller beat!
@Lee: Golden Goat nominee!
“Today’s Georges”
TODAYS GEORGES
FOLLOWED
KING GEORGE,
NOT THE WASH
INGTON.
@ 38
Name calling when you got nothing else.
He could have pointed out your inability to read simple words:
And while I suppose the Optimist Club has the right to parade a Confederate flag down public streets…
but simply pointing out that you’re a first-class idiot is more terse and just as accurate.
#36
Absolutely these people have a right to parade with that symbol of hate and oppression, absolutely.
So to do we have the right, the obligation even, to speak out against such foul symbolism. No one here is talking about taking away their rights – we’re talking about the thinking behind such a display, and how to confront it and oppose it.
@10 “I guess me catching Goldy flip-flopping again has him at a loss for words.”
An alternative theory is that you’re too insignificant to bother replying to.
From the City of Auburn website, posted by Mayor Lewis on 6/05/2009:
“Many of us attended the funeral service for Joe Jenkins, one of our own. He was a mentor for many, a guiding light for the Auburn Optimists and a man with a smile for all.”
The 2009 Good Ol’ parade was dedicated to Jenkins, 2 months after he was buried. No where on the City, parade, or Optimist site is there an explanation for why the parade people are hoisting a Confederate flag in his honor.
Did they do the same thing last year?
Accusations of flip flopping aside (you have nothing, just stop), why does anyone have a Confederate bumper plate or a car horn that sings Dixie? What’s the first thing you think of when you see this flag or hear your neighbor’s truck horn yelping out Dixie every day? Thinking of Boss Hogg doesn’t count.
Mr. Barry, I hope you get a better response. Go to http://www.auburngoodoldays.com and check out the sponsors: Boeing, BECU, Auburn Schools, and all the local service orgs. Really, what’s the meaning of the Confederate flag in the deep south of King county? I find it rather embarrassing, but I then didn’t know the guy and I don’t live in Auburn. “Look away, look away…”
Troll @ 7
False analogy for the win.
Goldy, and many others, condemned the self identified anarchists. Who among the right condemns the racist Confederate throwbacks?
Auburn has just proven beyond a doubt that the city has absolutely nothing to offer educated, progressive, 21st century businesses. Mayor Lewis supporting racist displays during a public parade by saying it is privately funded is disgusting beyond belief. What’s on the agenda for next year- the KKK?
Why would a busy, active community volunteer be honored with a symbol of laziness? That’s what the Confederate flag is, after all. The symbol of a part of the country where people wanted profits from growing cotton but were too lazy to pick it themselves.
The Civil war ended 24 years before Washington became a state. Unless Joe Jenkins was a Civil War aficionado who participated in reenactments, it does seem weird to “honor” him with the flag of the lazy loser.
@54
Because two people showed up at a parade and walked down the street with a confederate flag? Last I checked Auburn had a population of over 50K. OMG less then 1000th of 1% of the city of Auburn might have been involved the display of a confederate flag!!! Ban them all!
First of all, we don’t know who they were, what they were thinking or if they were thinking at all. We don’t know if they were a planned part of the parade, or if they just join in for a block or three?
Second, the confederate flag has been used as much or more for fashion and marketing than its been for racism and hate. There used to be a country station around here that had the confederate flag as part of logo (KMPS?). Yes, it’s a symbol of hate and that needs to be pointed out, but it also needs to be pointed out that a lot of people don’t get that, or see it as a “rebel” thing (I so don’t get that.).
Third, a mayor of a town of 50K is a busy guy and it’s a busy weekend. IT’S A WEEKEND. You’re not going to get much of a reply out of him until he can get his facts together, check with the city police, the Optimists, the city attorney… Lets check back on Wednesday.
@57: I agree. It’s worth checking back with the mayor and/or parade organizers, especially because the Optimists do their good works “for the kids.”
The man of honor has been dead for over a year. Will this be an annual honorarium, and if so, why?
Maybe Pam Roach has answers.
“Johnny Yuma was a rebel
He roamed through the west
Did Johnny Yuma, the rebel
He wandered alone
He got fightin’ mad
This rebel lad
He packed no star
As he wandered far
Where the only law
Was a hook and a draw
The rebel, Johnny Yuma
[Repeat 1st verse]
He searched the land
This restless lad
He was panther quick
And leather tough
If he figured that
He’d been pushed enough
The rebel, Johnny Yuma
[Repeat 1st verse]
Fightin’ mad
This rebel lad
With a dream he’d hold
‘Til his dyin’ breath
He’d search his soul
And gamble with death
The rebel, Johnny Yuma
by Johnny Cash
The Great Lie — by Tim Lewis
The first part of the Great Lie
Is to deny
That slavery was savage, barbaric—
Instead, bleating and placating
With soft metaphor and subtle explication
That so many owners were good and kind,
And most slaves redeemably well-treated,
Never whipped, never maimed,
Never shipped into coffle lines,
Iron masks or necklaces of horns,
But lofted with warmed clothes, adorned quarters,
And a living comfortable and soft
The second part of the Great Lie
Is to deny
The evil of the system, comparing it
To northern industry, wage labor,
Whining that New England factories
Had slaves engaged for sorry pay
In conditions just as forced, or worse,
And to ignore the curse of servitude,
Of rapes and killings, broken families,
Branded hands and faces, clipped ears,
And the right for us to choose
Our lives and fears.
The third part of the Great Lie
Is to imply
That most enjoyed their bondage,
Paternal-dwelt, indentured,
Childlike, unprepared,
Household servants cared for well,
Enjoying beds and meals and comfort,
Too simple or unstressed to venture
Into a savage, killing world
Where their lack of skills and laziness
Would squeeze them into destitution,
Rather than soft plantation ease.
The fourth part of the Great Lie
Is to deny
That the war concerned slavery at all,
To quote Lincoln, extend excuses
That states’ rights, homestead
Protection were the real concerns
For Davis and his plantation friends,
And to ignore why so many poor
Refused to fight, fled, deserted,
Or were enthused by the Union side
—Half of white Virginia seceding from
The enslaved creed of the state.
The fifth part of the Great Lie
Is to deny
Slave wisdom, endeavor and capacity,
As competent as whites,
As brave, hardworking and as fit
—Or that they carved their freedom
Desperate with each flighted hour,
Stating that most plantations snoozed
Unperturbed by war dispute
—Loyal in repute, trusted, free—
A whitewash that bruises today,
In unabashed denial of equality.
The sixth and final part of the Great Lie
Is to deny
Even the existence of wartime slaves,
Their flight and engraved resistance,
Their willingness to ambush,
Burn barns and houses, poison,
Refuse to work, sabotage, go slow about,
Flow freedom into their own firm hands,
Fight for Union forces and to scout,
Despite the frenzy-butchered slaughter,
Of Confederate soldiers’ assault
On a race’s quiet-ennobled valor.
Let us no more apologize or lie,
Let us no more glissade nor simplify,
Let us no more squirm nor ignore,
But let us straight and truthful say,
With courage in our humbled hearts,
That we were terribly, terribly wrong,
And slip upon our bended knees
To beg forgiveness for inhumanities,
Seek ways to give in recompense,
Build memorials to their memory,
And take their peaceful, offered hands
In final joint identity.
I do,
I bow my head
And beg forgiveness
On behalf of all
Who have defended slavery
And defend it still. . . .
Hey, I grew up in the South, but I think it’s really strange to see a flag of this type being displayed in a parade here. My guess is it probably didn’t have anything to do with the guy being honored, it’s just a couple of jerks who decided to pull out the flag during the parade to see how many people would cheer them.
But it’s especially strange since Washington, Oregon, and California were havens for people seeking to avoid the draft during the war (both Confederate and Union).
Oh, and by the way, it’s not a real Confederate National Flag that they were displaying. The original Confederate National Flag (the “Stars and Bars”) caused some confusion on the battlefield due to it’s resemblence to the U.S. flag. At 1st Bull Run there lots of friendly fire episodes on both sides due to the lack of uniformity over uniforms and flag confusion.
The Confederate Battle Flag was a military flag given to the Army of Northern Virginia beginning in the fall of 1862. It was square, not rectangular, in order to preserve scarce material and make it easier to be displayed on the battlefield.
The Confederate Battle Flag was later encorporated into the second version of the Confederate National Flag, called the “Stainless Banner” because it had the square Conf. battle flag in the upper-left union, but the rest of the flag was white. This also caused confusion on the battlefield, commanders complained that so much white made it look like a flag of surrender or parley, and it was impossible to keep the white “staineless” under camp and battle conditions.
The final version of the Confederate National Flag tried to remedy some of these problems by having a large red border on the far right of the while field. But this was authorized only a month or so before the end of the war.
The rectangular version of the Confederate Battle Flag didn’t come into use until the early 1960’s, where it was sometimes displayed at rallys protesting integration or bussing.
So Auburn has a few people carrying a confederate flag – big fucking deal…you can find those in every city.
On the other hand, that wonderful place known as Belltown has people shitting/pissing/puking in the streets, drive by shootings, and rampant drug dealing…..and lets not even mention goldy’s part of town – Rainier Valley, ugh…talk about a shithole – gangs, drugs, etc….
I dont know, I think I will take Auburn, all things considered.
and with all this talk about a boycott of Auburn, thats funny, I dont think the people of Auburn will mind.
@54.
hey, go fuck yourself…
@huh: Come on Pam, get a real user name. Being a state senator has its privileges.
@64
swing and a miss….your a regular Ken Griffey jr….
@61 I’m not a Southern native, but I’ve spent enough time in Dixie to understand that there is a Southern culture, of which the “plantation heritage” is a part, but to which there’s quite a bit more. Down there, that flag does seem to have become an icon for celebrating All Things Southern, and that’s fine.
In a town in in the Puget Sound area whose population is mostly descended from Yankees, it has no such meaning–only a reminder of an ugly, bloody episode that nearly destroyed this nation we all love so much.
They might as well have been parading a hammer and sickle, or a swastika.
I wonder how come none of the progressives are all on fire and upset with the statue of the super-murderer Lenin in Freakmont…..
of course lets not forget what happens every christmas: a large communist red star is put up over dear Lenin’s head – i mean what better way to celebrate x-mas than by adorning a large tree-topper style red star over the head of a scoialist-athiest who’s socialst state carried out mass-murder on an epic scale…including many christians who were targets for their faith. merry x-mas to all I guess.
but wait, nobody seems to raise any fuss about that from our local progressive cadre of socialist and closet-commies…..but oh-no, heavan forbid somebody carry a dixie flag in a parade -then all hell breaks lose.
and then there’s Goldy trying to fan the flames in order to make some political hay out of a non-event.
goldy, like most progressives, is so fucking predictable that he is getting stale and boring.
kjhkh
when goldy and his little photog-boy gonna take a picture of mass-murderer statue in Freakmont and do a write-up?
@62
Auburn crime rate, violent crime a bit less than Seattle (per thousand) but property crime rate is 1/3 higher.
I didn’t know Fremont had a statue of GW.
part @ 67
Fremont’s statue of Lenin is a trophy, not a monument.
@68
study shows number of human feces in streets of Belltown is 150 to 1 over Auburn per capita…
@68
I was talking about Belltown, not the rest of seattle…
you remember all the hype dont you? Belltown’s rebirth was supposed to be the “new seattle” and be the wave of the future.
and it can all be yours, including streets riddled with human shit/piss/puke, drive by shootings, and fucking stinky ass bums for the mere price of $750/sf…HAHAHHAHHAHHHHAHAH SUCKERS AHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….ahh yes, the price of being 20-30-something and being “cool”…HAHAHHHHHAHAHHHAHHHA
..and the best part of it is….wait for it…..is that people like me made a fucking KILLING off the whole deal…HAHAHHAHAHAHAH
oh, and Im not the only one…just ask steve – cmon steve, you know you made some good cash off of those cookie-cutter, over priced PT condo towers…:)
@70
ya…sure it is….
@13 and 14
YLB OWNED.
notice how YLB cant respond to post @14
also notice how goldy fails to mention that Delbene and other democrats were in the parade? HE only mentions Rossi in order to get a rise of out of people like YLB – and get them all frothing…
Goldy is our new Joseph Goebbels….our minister of propaganda.
its a 2 for 1 kind of post…both goldy and YLB get owned.
Joke:
A horny little mouse climbs up to fuck an elephant. The elephant, unaware of the mouse, continues to feed, puling branches down from a tree. The elephant groans when one branch slips and hits her on her head. The mouse, impressed with his own self importance says, “suffer, baby, suffer.”
liar is a little mouse.
little mouse @74, you sure are impressed with your own self importance, aren’t you?
@75
sounds like a normal night between you and your wife.
cascadia will rise again!
Yawwwnn… Notice how the dumbass can’t see the response @ 19.
@80
that was no response, it was a sidestep..which is SOP for you when your get made the fool.
owned again YLB…
you are so…..yesterday.
The official response from the festival: Auburn is full of diversity. I have no idea who the people are in the photo or who they represent. Joe Jenkins and his memory have nothing to do with that photo. The truth be known: that banner was from last year when we honored Joe and it was put in the parade in error for 2010. The Optimists are a fine group of individuals that do wonderful things for youth. The first amendment which protects us all is a right that we must respect in a public parade. Our Pioneer Queen is black and she gave a speech titled, “I’m a phenomenal woman and I am not giving my black back!” She is an awesome eighty year old woman that we can all aspire to become. She can tell you about southern racism and she settled here in Auburn. Just like we have the Inter-Tribal Warriors, the Sons of Norway and many other representatives of the Philipino, Japanese, Chinese, Latino, Hispanic and Caucasian communities in the parade. We are a community that includes all and excludes none. All ages, all religions, all creeds all colors are welcome in Auburn. I can understand that the photographer took the photo as it is a sharp contrast to our community pulse and I would hope that his attempt of humor at Auburn’s expense does not undo the strides that we have made in our community to include all, love all and welcome all. End of discussion.
Heh. The silly chickenshit is too stupid too see that I gently rebuked Whorfin’s assertion of guilt by association.
People who fly confederate flags are part of Rossi’s base – period. That fact is obvious on its face.
Funny when I go to Fremont I see bustling shops, taverns, restaurants. Maybe not so much since the downturn..
I also see dynamic business – Adobe, F3 Networks..
And a little eccentricity – local color..
What don’t I see???
A scared little chickenshit clucking from his ex-urban hovel.
@82
excellent post..however it will probably fall on deaf ears with the crowd here at HA.
you must group-think like them..or else..
@83
oh really? thats a “fact”? LMFAO
so I guess lazy jobless losers like you are part of Murray’s base?
logic is as logic does….
@84
“ex-urban hovel”? WTF? LOL….you been smoking some of Lee’s stash?
ahhh yes, Adobe and F3(I was involved in that project)…are you talking about those evul corporations? You know, the ones you looney lefties like to throw under the bus?
damn, you just cant make up your minds can you?
YLB, sitting in his basement…lol
I’d be really surprised if even a single voter in Murray’s base flew a Confederate flag in a public or anywhere else in public.
Who would be more likely to rebuke in no uncertain terms what that flag symbolizes?
Certainly not Rossi – he needs every vote he can get to keep from being a three time loser.
I’m not aware of those businesses doing anything particularly evil.
So now the chickenshit confesses he profited from opportunities in (gasp!) Seattle.
What an ungrateful prick.
Funny…the only people I see getting offended are lily-white, tender handed, limp dicks like yourself….
wonder why that is…..
@89
I profit from projects all over the damn place.
its called having a job…you should try it sometime.
the only people I see getting offended
Oh I’m definitely offended by an asshole like Rossi who during 2008 couldn’t call Chris Gregoire by name or ever refer to her as the Governor. We heard nothing but “my opponent, the incumbent”.
It’ll be the same with Murray if he survives the primary.
I’m also offended by bigoted name-calling chickenshit trolls like you.
@92
but apparently you werent offended by queen christine outright lying to you about taxes or the condition of the state’s budget.
it figures that a tender handed person like you would get offended at irrelevant things like “he only her called my opponent or the incumbent”, rather than relevant shit like lying about public policy and budget issues.
you are such a dumbass.
go ahead, keep focusing on irrelvant stuff you moron…you are the perfect seattle voter.
and btw, my job is offend you…glad to see I am being successful, but its really not that hard to get you all wound up..
:)
Wow is it so bad to offended by a mean-sprited bigoted prick?
I think that’s a normal reaction by any decent person.
Yawwwwn.. Like most crap you drag in here, upon examination it falls apart.
Working hard for the man right now are you?
It’s quite relevant that the man or woman that dumbasses find appealing is not the one I’d want running the government.
to reiterate:
YLB: it really offended me that rossi only called her “my opponent” or “the incumbent”
my god dude, could you be any more of a pussy with a comment like that? wow, man up for gods sake! Fuck, did you tilt your wrist and go into lisping mode when you wrote that?
Of course, once again, it didnt matter that for the second election in a row, the queen outright lied about raising taxes and the budget problems with the state….oh well, YLBleeder must have been too worked up and boohooing about her being called “the incumbent” to notice the queen spewing bullshit left and right.
ahh yes, the typical liberal seattle lemming voter on display for all to see….well done YLBleeder!
golf clap….
97 – You make me laugh bigot. You have no argument except to denigrate people you obviously don’t understand.
Rossi ran a mean spirited campaign designed to appeal to the worst emotions. That’s not a guy I want to see rise to high political office.
The bigot is ‘working hard’ this morning?
Or “hardly working”????
Bidness slow bigot??? Any stimulus dollar contracts you couldn’t get?
Are the voters who put Chris Gregoire well over the top in 2008.
The ultimate rebuke to the mean-spirited whiner Rossi.
@73
Since most of the problems in Belltown are related to suburbanites like you coming in to party…
Is Goldy the only blog or news source to take note of the flag? Everywhere else it seems not to deserve a mention. This seems just as strange as the flag being displayed in the parade in the first place.
This also seems to violate U.S. Code by parading the confederate flag in front of the American flag.
http://www.senate.gov/referenc.....L30243.pdf
@100
if all the voters for queen christine got offended by the same stuff you did, then they are as big a bunch of spineless pussies like you are.
@101
not hardly….nice try though.
Auburn has had this parade and community event for decades and this is the first time anything like this has happened. I was there along with many other people that day and if you saw the parade you would note that there were people of all color, all backgrounds and all were clapped for and thanked for coming. The flag may have been insensitive to those offended by it but honestly, my little boy thought it was the “Dukes of Hazard” flag… Nothing malicious was meant by the flag and it’s too bad that is all people talked about. The only people in the wrong here is the people who made the choice to display the flag- NOT AUBURN, NOT THE COMMUNITY.
Nice way to regard the majority of WA voters.. At least back in 2008. State voting population are hardly static. People come and go. Participate or choose not to.
Glad to know you’re in the minority in any case. Yeah I’m as sure of THAT as I am of anything.
By the way I celebrate your 1st amendment right to be a total dipshit. As I’m sure you celebrate my right to call you on it. It’s entertainment for me.
Ain’t living in America great?
@73
Which was a good investment Belltown or Auburn?
98121 (Belltown) has 57 foreclosures, while
98002 (Auburn) has 201 foreclosures.
@107
oops…your are leaving out a couple of facts:
1. many of those condos in belltown are unoccupied…and have never been occupied..therefore no foreclosure is on record.
2. The number of properties in Auburn FAR outnumbers the amount in Belltown…much more than the 4-1 ration you showed. Same goes for the number of people who live there. Inside the city limits Auburn has about 65,000..easily another 25,000 outside the city limits that still have an Auburn mailing address. Belltown sure has hell doesnt have 65,000 people…or 90,000 for that matter.
kinda sucks when you try to be the man, and then those pesky facts just fuck you up all over the place, huh.
Are you one of those fools that paid $600-750 sf for your POS downtown condo? HAHAHAH, how much are they worth now? LOL…whats the occupancy rate down there? 50%? LMFAO…
owned…its what your eating for dinner tonight.
and for the record, I dont live in Auburn.
@106..
aahhhh YLB, you dont read too well do you?
YOU said that the queens voters got offended at Dino calling her “the opponent” or “the incumbent”. YOU seem to think that everyone is a pussy like yourself – I mean really dude, YOU got offended by that? shit man, was it that time of the month for you or something? I mean we already know you dont wear the pants in the family, but damn dude…GET A SACK!
I highly doubt most people even noticed – other than the overly sensitive types like yourself….and for the ones that did get offended? well yes, they are spinless she-men pussies.
for those that didnt get offended, but still voted for the queen? well they just made a bad choice…so be it.
@107
for the record, Belltown has approx 7,500 people
owned, its gonna taste yummy tonight, right uptown?
dont fucking come at me with this weak-ass shit…next time do you fucking homework.
Nope. I said I was offended by the way Rossi referred to Gregoire. Did I say that was the ONLY thing that ticked me off about the guy?
I’m sure the MAJORITY of WA voters in 2008 (a lot of them anyway) were offended by MANY things Rossi has done beyond being beating up on Gregoire like a jerk. Like being a total “environmental” phony tooling around in a Hybrid SUV (without using a seatbelt in violation of the law). By being totally in the pocket of BIAW since he ran for State Senate. To even being a total fuck up mis-speaking Tlinglit on some reservation during his stupid campaign.
Then again a lot of voters probably didn’t give Rossi a second glance once BIAW’s sickening TV campaign kicked in.
No one in his right mind would give such a fool his vote.
Dino will be back to his old tricks once he survives the primary. He’ll change up a little but the salesman giving a sleazy pitch will always shine through.
@107.
so uptown, how did your “investment” in belltowon work out for ya, anyway?
LMFAO…
…punkslap – sit the F down.
@ 82 and 105:
Neither or you are explaining the response Ken Berry received from the Mayor of Auburn i.e. why the Boss Hogg flag was hoisted in honor of a dead Optimist. Why was this a mistake?
I’d really like to understand this without hearing either or you invoke the D word again. Without further explanation, it sounds like you’re having Dr. Laura and Chris Rock over for dinner, just to cover all your bases.
@113
the flag was “hoisted”???
that sounds like a bit of a stretch in order to make it appear more dramatic than “some guy carrying the flag”…..
Goldy School of Spinning?