Arrests at Occupy Seattle

The Stranger is reporting from the scene. The last tent has come down, and a dozen or so arrests have been made. I’m not seeing any reports of pepper spray or tazering and the police aren’t in riot gear, so it could have been worse. Still, a damn shame that it’s happened.

I’m going to head down to Westlake park, and see what’s going on. Will update this post as appropriate.

[update 5:43] There are 100-150 people or so. Mostly in one group South of the fountain and a smaller group directly across the street from the mall. I don’t see any police around, but there are a few empty police cars parked. Some have parked under the awning of the building with the Sees and the Tully’s. People are handing out doughnuts and pizza. Others are playing music. It’s a peaceful scene.

[update 5:51] a few of the signs:

– We are the 99%
– Occupy Seattle
– Good Jobs Peace and Medicine for all
– Tax Wall Street
– No Afghanistan War

[update 6:09] People are telling me there will be a “general assembly” at 6:30. Nobody I talked to knew exactly what that meant though. My battery is pretty low, so I’m shutting down until then.

[update 6:34] The first item on the agenda is retaking.

[update 6:41] They’re still deciding how to make the decisions.

[update 6:50] I can’t really hear anyone, so I’m going to try to find a better spot, my apologies.

[update 7:06] We’re coalescing around staying here or going to another park: City Hall, Seattle Center, Freeway Park. I think we’re coming around to staying here or Seattle Center if we’re kicked out, but leaning toward here. But again, I can’t hear everything, so that makes it harder.

[update 7:14] To the people honking: you’re awesome, but making it even tougher to hear.

[update 7:20] I just talked to a woman at the food tent. She says they’d like to be able organize hot meals, especially Midweek at breakfast or lunch. squirlqueen@gmail if you, or your church, etc. can help. Once a week hot meals would be great. Someone else said anyone with any food, they’ll take it.

[7:32 update] My battery is pretty close to dead, but it sounds like they’re staying put. I’m going to recharge it, and grab some food. I’m out for a while.

[9:40 update] I’m back at Westlake. A few dozen people are along 4th Ave and every time the light turns, and a rush of cars come by, cars are honking. People are milling about. I have no idea how many.

[9:46 update] There’s only one police car. I don’t know if cops are massing elsewhere, or if they just aren’t around.

[10:27 update] The rumor was that police would clear people out at 10:00, and that hasn’t happened. I’ve been told people with writing on their arms are willing to get arrested (it’s legal info). The people I talked to now and earlier have said that the people saying “fuck the police” etc, don’t represent the majority. But I guess they were the only ones with megaphones. It sounds like a total of 30 people arrested.

I’m probably heading home soon, but I can’t tell you how brave the people here willing to get arrested, willing to spend the night in the cold, drizzly, hard ground, willing to be seen are. I can’t tell you how proud I am of each of them.

Comments

  1. 1

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    hey carl, while you are down there, tell those fucking lazy assholes to get a job.

    …then again, after seeing some of their mugs on TV, I dont think many of them are even hireable.

  2. 2

    Puddybud, identifies Ekim AKA Turd For Brains, Another Cass Sunstein Malleable Homer Simpson idiot spews:

    Arrests at Occupy Seattle? Y’all already occupy Seattle. This is just for show!

  3. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1 What jobs do you suggest they get? The jobs Bush promised his Tax Cuts For The Rich (patented) would create?

  4. 5

    Michael spews:

    So, they could sit there 24/7 if they didn’t erect a tent?

    How much is the city spending in overtime pay to have cops take down tents?

  5. 6

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    KING 5 interviewed some gal who was a protester down in Seattle..

    She looked like a scuzzy, nasty, zit faced, overweight reject – probably in her early 20’s.

    The job description on the TV under her name was “Professor”!!!!!!!

    HAHHAHAHHAHAHH – fucking classic!

  6. 7

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @4

    gee Roger, plenty of companies are hiring right now – Hell, even Boeing is hiring like crazy!

    of course, nobody wants to hire a bunch of scuzzy, unkempt, uneducated(or educated in shit that is irrelevant in the real world…IE stuff like anthropology or basket weaving) loud mouthed losers – so I guess this bunch in seattle is shit outta luck.

    who’s fault is that?

  7. 9

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @8 Kinda looks like one of your daughters….after they were shaved and cleaned up by the local pimp.

  8. 10

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    SPD officers never lie … er, do they?

    “Eric Rachner is doing everything he can to make the Seattle Police Department regret his arrest three years ago while playing a game of ‘urban golf’ on Capitol Hill. …

    “In 2010, he won a $60,000 public-disclosure judgment against the department for denying it had dashboard-camera recordings of his arrest as well as logs of the recordings, when it did. …

    “On Wednesday, Rachner sued the department and officers involved in his 2008 arrest for … false arrest, malicious prosecution and ‘spoliation of video evidence.’ …

    “The lawsuit alleges the arresting officer … can be heard telling other officers that he had ‘arrested Rachner because Rachner had acted “edjumicated,”‘ a mocking mispronunciation of ‘educated.’ While booking him at the station house, [he] told another officer that Rachner was a ‘brainiac.’ The other officer responded, ‘Fine … we can play that game.’ …

    “Rachner and [his attorney] … allege that what happened was not an anomaly, but the norm. They claim the department routinely says it does not have videos when it does, or denies releasing it under a Catch-22 interpretation of public disclosure laws that allows the videos to be withheld for up to three years — the statute of limitation for filing a civil lawsuit. Coincidentally, Rachner said, the department has a three-year video retention policy. ‘So what happens is that you can’t get the video until it’s gone,’ he said.”

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....am06m.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: What we have here is not an isolated incident but systematic lying by the Seattle Police Department that it does not have evidence that it does have, and systematic and deliberate and wholesale violation of the state’s public records law. These cops are acting a whole lot like a bunch of people who think they’re above the law.

  9. 11

    Michael spews:

    UPDATE at 5:22 PM: Protesters with a megaphone just announced that police at the West Precinct are processing and releasing folks who were arrested, Cienna reports

    . Anyone who wants to stay the night can stay, according to the people with the bullhorn, as long as they don’t have a tent or sleeping bag

    (blankets are apparently okay).

    Pack you cagoule and come on down!

    Wonder how much money the city of Seattle just blew on a completely pointless activity?

  10. 12

    Michael spews:

    @8 Kinda looks like one of your daughters….after they were shaved and cleaned up by the local pimp

    We sorta have a standing rule that other peoples family members be left out of this.

  11. 15

    blathering michael spews:

    I’m a good progressive, but I cringe at the visual of “protesters” defying cops by refusing to come out of their tents. Jesus, what wimps.

  12. 18

    Puddybud, identifies Ekim AKA Turd For Brains, Another Cass Sunstein Malleable Homer Simpson idiot spews:

    go talk to the rabbit turd.

    Floater Alert – – DOPEY Rabbit pickup on Aisle 6

    Now back to the thread… I thought the reason for these was to attack the “Tea Party take over of the Republican Party” among other things? So how does that happen in Seattle? There isn’t much of a Republican party in this dive!

    So I have to ask the arschloch… was that Mrs Arschloch in the audience at the 10 second mark?

  13. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @7 According to our new (recycled old?) troll there’s plenty of jobs for anyone who wants one.

    Tell that to the unemployed, dickhead.

    First they fuck up the economy. Then they pretend nothing is wrong with the economy. Well, what do you expect from people who tell us that giving tax breaks to billionaires creates jobs? The only thing that creates is richer billionaires.

  14. 20

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Fortunately, I don’t need a job. I live off the land, like Republicans do. It doesn’t make any sense to work because working doesn’t pay. People who have worked hard all their lives have ended up with nothing to show for it. Meanwhile, stock flippers like me are laughing all the way to the bank.

  15. 24

    Michael spews:

    @18

    Now back to the thread… I thought the reason for these was to attack the “Tea Party take over of the Republican Party” among other things?

    I never got the idea that this had anything to do with the Tea Party or the Republicans or the Democrats. Note, they didn’t bother camping out in DC, they went to Wall Street.

  16. 25

    Puddybud, identifies Ekim AKA Turd For Brains, Another Cass Sunstein Malleable Homer Simpson idiot spews:

    Let’s review…

    Hell, even Boeing is hiring like crazy!

    The shorter response

    Well, what do you expect from people who tell us that giving tax breaks to billionaires creates jobs?

    So Boeing isn’t hiring DOPEY Rabbit? Wasn’t it Gary Locke who did that tax break thing as guvnur earlier last decade?

    The Zombies are coming DOPEY Rabbit… R U Ready?

  17. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @8 ” There isn’t much of a Republican party in this dive!”

    If you don’t like it here, then move to someplace where people are just as dumb as you.

  18. 28

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @25 Oh yeah, Boeing is going to reduce the unemployment rate all by itself? I have news for you, the Eurozone is about to collapse and we’re about to slide into another global recession, what do you think that will do to Boeing deliveries?

  19. 29

    Puddybud, identifies Ekim AKA Turd For Brains, Another Cass Sunstein Malleable Homer Simpson idiot spews:

    I never got the idea that this had anything to do with the Tea Party or the Republicans or the Democrats.

    Michael just doesn’t pay attention. I posted the “labor leader” who called for “Occupy Wall Street” long ago on this blog multiple times Michael… SEIU guy Steve Lerner. So why doesn’t Steve Lerner offer them protesters as yob? You can ask the crazed HA databaze chronologically monomaniacal (aptly named by PTBAA) arschloch

    Do you sit all day reading left wrong porn? Apparently you do!

  20. 31

    Michael spews:

    @19

    There are jobs out there going begging, but there’s a mismatch between the people that need jobs and the skills they need to get the jobs. The folks that need retraining are flat broke and can’t afford to retrain, Republicans seem dead set on not spending any money on retraining, and most of the Democrats don’t seem very motivated to go against the Republicans.

    There are also miss matches in geography, like folks in southern Ohio that could have jobs if they could move, but they can’t sell their homes so they can’t move.

    We need to get people retrained and we need to get people mobile so they can go where the jobs are. Since large corporations and the ultra wealthy are just sitting around sitting on a hell of a lot of capital we might want to tell them that either they can start working on this on their own or we can tax the fuck out of them and do it for them. Either way it gets people trained and mobile and it get more capital moving around.

  21. 32

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @30

    last I checked, bush hasnt been prez in over 3 years.

    and Boeing was just one example you dolt.

    clueless old fart

  22. 33

    Puddybud, identifies Ekim AKA Turd For Brains, Another Cass Sunstein Malleable Homer Simpson idiot spews:

    So that’s the trolls’ answer to the Bush Depression: Apply at Boeing.

    Oh my DOPEY Rabbit, is this another of your change that tune attempts? Yes it is!

    Except you have it wrong again… Joe Biden disagrees with the DOPEY Rabbit… and he has more clout than a DOPEY Rabbit.

    “Right now, we are the ones in charge, and it’s gotten better but it hasn’t gotten good enough,” Biden told WLRN. “…I don’t blame them for being mad. We’re in charge. So they’re angry.”

  23. 34

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @31

    michael,
    This is what happens when you build an economy based on debt – its been in the making for over 30 years. people lived their lives based on debt, and so did the govt….and here we are.

    there is no magic fix, and the people that say “tax the rich!” are just kidding themselves – we are in wayyyyy past just taxing the rich to pay for shit.

    this is the result of party lemmings who vote D and R without using their brains…whole lotta lemmings here at HA.

    remember when the lemmings said obama was the great savior? hope n change! LMFAO…the lemmings at that shit up like apple pie.

    hell, ylb couldnt get john edwards’ cock out his mouth fast enough to get obama’s cock in….and he is just one example of the true fanatic lemmings here.

  24. 35

    Michael spews:

    @34

    @31

    michael,
    This is what happens when you build an economy based on debt – its been in the making for over 30 years. people lived their lives based on debt, and so did the govt….and here we are.

    For the most part I agree. But, there are some things we can do.

    It starts with getting money moving again, getting more money in the hands of the working class will do that. There’s no consumer demand because the bottom 90% of the country is broke.

    Getting people employed and getting the under employed better employed will help too. But, that’s going to cost money. No just taxing the rich wont pay for it, we need to do more than that. But, we do need to tax the ultra wealthy and large corporations more while we’re at it.

    there is no magic fix

    Damn straight, there’s no magic fix and we’re not claiming there is. That’s something that people that are opposed to us are making up about us. Stop being such a tool.

    This things is going to take a hell of a lot of hard work and time to get out of. But, its also going to take changes in taxes, trade, education, banking, and about a billion other things while we’re at it.

  25. 36

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @35

    LOL…Im hardly a tool….The tools are the people who think taxing rich, or cutting spending to $0 is going to solve anything.

    If you ask me, the only way the debt problem will be solved is if whole system collapses and starts from square 1 again.

    I agree, money needs to get moving again – but NOT by having people who make $40k a year thinking they can live like they make $140k a year. they are just as much at fault as anybody else for the crappola we as a nation are in.

    sorry dude – I have zero sympathy for the assholes in govt or the asshole pretenders who live their lives on Visa or mastercard…fuck them both.

  26. 37

    spews:

    .The tools are the people who think taxing rich,

    Those ultra-liberals in the 50’s were real tools..

    They were so deluded that they could pay for the Marshall Plan, Korean and Cold Wars and service the WWII bond debt by taxing the top earners at rates approaching 91 percent.

    So those tools reduced taxes to around 70 percent – that paid for Vietnam and the Apollo program.. Wow how depressed things were in the 60’s.

    Tax cuts have fueled prosperity ever since. Look at how well we’re doing today.

  27. 38

    Michael spews:

    If you ask me, the only way the debt problem will be solved is if whole system collapses and starts from square 1 again.

    Perhaps, but I think trying to prevent that from happening is still a good idea.

    I’ve got 0 debit even my house is paid for (thank you grandpa!), I can grow a big garden and can fruits and veggies, and get around just fine on my bike. If things do collapse I should get by better than most.

    I’d really rather not have it come to that.

  28. 39

    spews:

    couldnt get john edwards’ cock out his mouth fast enough to get obama’s cock in

    Wow asshat one note wonder is one limber SOB!

    Been sucking his own johnson so long in these comments threads, shit, the asshat just can’t stop!

    I’m sure he’ll take a break to get Ron Paul’s old withered member a shot..

    Naaaaaaahhh..

  29. 40

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @37
    Look at how well we’re doing today.

    We here are doing pretty damn good…so fuck you – go get a job you lazy bastard.

  30. 41

    ButtPutty's fetid syphilitic brain spews:

    @34

    remember when the lemmings said obama was the great savior? hope n change! LMFAO…the lemmings at that shit up like apple pie.

    Remember when the Teahadists and the Rabid Reich thought Flip Flop McCain and the half term governor Mushmouth Palin were the winning ticket?

  31. 42

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @38

    Well I seriously doubt society would collapse, but I do the financial/monetary side would…and perhaps should.

    Nice to hear someone with their shit together…we seem to be fewer and fewer.

  32. 44

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @39

    you are right..I am limber..and the wife loves it.

    fat fucks like you who sit around all day can barely find their own shrunken knob.

    keep on with that urban basement lifestyle there champ…

  33. 45

    spews:

    Uhhh.. Question.. If American debt is such a problem why are interest rates so low?

    Gee a greek 10 year bond yields 23 percent!

    How about a 10 year u.s. treasury???

    (drumroll)

    2.125 percent..

    Wow we’re paying loan shark rates because our debt situation is so freaking bad!

  34. 46

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @45

    another economics wizard…LMFAO.

    keep that head in the sand there big boy – its that kind of thinking that has gotten you this far in life….what a success! LMFAO….

  35. 47

    spews:

    I am limber..and the wife loves it.

    LMAO! Yep it must tickle her funny bone watching you suck your own prick like you do in these comment threads..

  36. 48

    spews:

    46 – LMAO!!! We’re such a terrible credit risk compared to Greece..

    Ok Greece is a special case.. How about Australia?

    Shit the yield on a 10 year Aussie Bond is a tad over 5.6 percent.

    I don’t get it asshat.. Gee I thought according to dipshit geniuses like you the markets would be charging loan shark rates on us by now.

  37. 49

    Michael spews:

    @42
    If the economy goes down there’s going to be shortages of gas and slim pickings at the grocery stores for a bit. You’ll want to have ways of getting around other than your car and ways of getting food other than the stores.

  38. 50

    Westy spews:

    These Downtown scumbags are merely unemployable losers bought & paid for by MoveOn.org who is promoting this charade. What a joke.
    They don’t want jobs.
    They somehow feel important with cameras on them.

  39. 51

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @32 Why don’t you walk up to this guy and call him a “lazy asshole” and suggest he apply for a job at Boeing? Don’t get me wrong — I don’t hope he kills you. I want you to stick around so we can kick you around some more. I enjoy kicking trolls like you.

    “Jon Reiner, a former marketing executive and father of two boys, figures he has sent out 2,000 resumes since he was laid off for the third time nearly five years ago. He has not gotten a single job offer.

    “An unassuming presence in the colorful crowd that marched in New York on Wednesday, the 49-year-old Reiner nevertheless is in many ways typical of the protesters who have established the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ camp just blocks away from the New York Stock Exchange.

    “His despair and frustration are palpable as he speaks about how his wife has returned to work as a high school teacher to support their family. Even so, he says, they ran out of their savings last year and now are in debt. …

    “Now a stay-at-home dad at the couple’s two-bedroom apartment in New York City’s Upper West Side, Reiner is one of the forgotten jobless – someone who has been without work for so long that he is no longer officially on the unemployment rolls. He is grateful that he has finally found a place where he can voice his worries and hopes for the future: at the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ camp.”

    http://fieldnotes.msnbc.msn.co.....t-occupier

  40. 52

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @34 “This is what happens when you build an economy based on debt – its been in the making for over 30 years. people lived their lives based on debt, and so did the govt….and here we are.”

    Well duh, golly, gee whiz, this country has been run by Republicans and their look-ma-no-regulations free market philosophy for the last 30 days … do ya suppose that had anything to do with it?

  41. 53

    Edward Seeto spews:

    I am excited to see this movement grow exponentially and I hope it is a counterbalance the the shit head tea party.The disparities between rich and poor have never been bigger , so I want the crooks on Wall Street brought to justice by Main Street.
    The best sign I have seen is- NO BEARS, NO BULLS JUST PIGS

  42. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tax Holidays Don’t Create Jobs

    “Ten major U.S. corporations … laid off workers after enjoying a tax holiday in 2004-2005 that had been billed as a form of economic stimulus, said a report released on Tuesday.

    “With large multinational companies today pressing Congress for another tax holiday, the Institute for Policy Studies reported that the last one did not fulfill its rosy promises for hundreds of thousands of U.S. workers.

    “Fifty-eight corporations that accounted for 70 percent of overseas profits repatriated under the 2004-2005 tax break collectively saved $64 billion in taxes, then cut 600,000 jobs through layoffs, the report said.

    “Large companies are lobbying again for such a tax break …. Just as they are doing now, companies six years ago said that the repatriation tax break would boost jobs and the economy. But the institute said this did not happen, as earlier academic studies have also found. ‘History shows that many ‘tax holiday’ companies use repatriated profits to reward executives and other shareholders, then lay off workers,’ said [a] co-author of the report ….”

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/44769782

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: It is, of course, Republicans who sponsor “tax holidays” for corporations. Deficit reduction is just a ruse used by Republicans to eviscerate programs for working-class families. If they were serious about reducing deficits they wouldn’t support useless and unproductive tax holidays for big companies that don’t produce any jobs.

  43. 56

    Liberal Scientist wonders when Republicans will be done with the charade and finally just start using the Hitler Salute spews:

    This is what happens when you build an economy based on debt – its been in the making for over 30 years. people lived their lives based on debt, and so did the govt….and here we are.

    there is no magic fix, and the people that say “tax the rich!” are just kidding themselves – we are in wayyyyy past just taxing the rich to pay for shit.

    The reason the middle class is in debt is that real wages for most people have stagnated for 30 years. People have been living on debt because for a long time it had the illusion of being cheap, and was used to make up for the fact that ever-increasing “productivity” was not rewarded with higher real wages – the owner class has kept all the wealth for themselves.

    With systematic lowering of tax rates at the top, wealth has been transferred upward into fewer and fewer hands. Lower marginal tax rates means that after-tax money is ‘cheaper’ and so favors keeping it, rather than reinvesting it pre-tax into the business that generated it – favoring buying jets and mansions rather than hiring another worker and buying a machine for them to use.

    Much of the present US Government deficit going forward is attributable to 1. Bush tax cuts and 2. Iraq/Afghanistan – gifts that keep on giving from that syphilitic imbecile ‘W’.

    What the Government by/for/of the wealthy has done is this: concentrated wealth at the top and expanded debt for everyone else, and is now using this debt as an excuse to shrink government and impose ‘austerity’ on the masses – a self-perpetuating race to the bottom that will ultimately yield the neo-feudal dystopia of their dreams.

  44. 57

    Westy spews:

    Interesting Fact Check on Ed Rendell’s claims about Clinton’s Tax increase and jobs. 21.4 million jobs were created between the passage of the Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 and the end of Clinton’s term, not 23.5 million, as Ed Rendell states. Taxes increased for the top 1.2% of Americans, not 2%, as Ed Rendell stated. The economy did grow substantially after the passage of the bill, but just because B happens after A, doesn’t mean A caused B, and in this case it’s impossible to prove causation. Senior fellows at the Brookings Institution, Cato Institute and Heritage Foundation all point to differing factors to what led to the huge economic growth between 1993 and 2001. Some say the economy grew despite the tax increases. Too many converging factors to isolate the tax increase and say somehow it caused growth. It’s learning you have cancer and pointing to the pizza you ate 2 years ago as the cause.

  45. 58

    spews:

    it’s impossible to prove causation.

    Wait a sec… Didn’t the right wing ding dipshits say that unemployment stopped dropping at the exact moment Obamacare was passed??

    Yeah this dipshit says it here:

    http://horsesass.org/?p=37308#comment-1109467

    Except in North Dakota, Nebraska, South Dakota, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Vermont..

    Notice that Gawd’s last place on earth Montana is not on that list.

  46. 59

    Michael spews:

    But, I thought they were all stoned, ragamuffin, youth with no clear message?

    http://www.businessweek.com/ne.....cisco.html

    Henry Liedtka, a 27- year-old pharmacy worker from New Jersey who said he’s protested since Oct. 2. “We should be bailing out the American public — not corporations — by raising the minimum wage, bringing jobs back from overseas and improving labor conditions.”

    Protesters criticized the government for propping up hobbled financial giants, including Citigroup Inc. and Bank of America Corp., with a $700 billion taxpayer-funded bailout in 2008, while leaving Americans to struggle with unemployment, depressed wages, soaring foreclosure rates and slashed retirement savings.

    “We bailed them out and they are not lending the money,” JoAnn Herr, 60, a retired sheet-metal worker from Oakland, California, said in an interview yesterday outside the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, where a march through downtown formed. “They are just holding onto it, giving themselves bigger bonuses and not paying their fair share of taxes.”

  47. 60

    spews:

    Hey everyone, I’m down here at Occupy Seattle, too. This awesome! Me and everyone here are so sick of greedy people who make money and stuff and have jobs and stuff and they shop at malls and stuff. They are the problem, man. Making money, saving money. And then rich people makin’ all that money. They are greedy pigs and stuff. Me and my old lady are squatting in a foreclosed house in north Seattle. Why don’t those rich pigs give us some of that money? We earned it just as much as they did.

    I hate capitalism! Down with the USA!. Down with Israel! Free Mumia! I am Troy Davis! War is Terrorism! No justice, no peace!

  48. 61

    Liberal Scientist wonders when Republicans will be done with the charade and finally just start using the Hitler Salute spews:

    As demonstrated by post #60…

    You know, the republicans do a far better job illustrating their idiocy, just by being themselves, than we ever could lampooning them.

  49. 62

    Westy spews:

    Here is a story about a couple Westlake Protestors who got bored with the charade and headed to Michigan.

    OCTOBER 5–A naked 71-year-old woman and her equally clothes-free male companion, 54, were arrested last month for indecent exposure after a Michigan cop found them trysting in the back seat of a Buick Regal that was rocking gently and had its windows steamed over, according to a police report.

    When the officer opened the vehicle’s rear door and asked the nude couple what they were doing, Tim Adams offered a concise answer. “I’m fucking this chick,” he said.

    Yes, Adams referred to his septuagenarian consort, Rita Daniels, as a “chick.”

    According to a City of Farmington Police report, Daniels’s 2002 Buick (license plate: DIVA 145) was in a shopping center parking lot, adjacent to a restaurant whose customers, including a 10-year-old-boy, apparently had a view of the illicit nighttime action on September 3.

    Officer Andrew Morche noted that the car’s windows “were covered with heavy condensation,” and that Daniels was atop Adams “and the two were engaged in sexual activities.” The pair was parked in a spot outside the restaurants Luigi’s and Tre Sorelle (which can be seen in this Google Street View image).

    A police investigation determined that the couple’s courtship was a brief one. They had met for drinks at a nearby bar “before moving to the back seat of the Buick.” When questioned by cops, neither Daniels nor Adams–both of whom were unsteady and smelled of booze–knew the other’s name. A Breathalyzer test recorded Daniels’s blood alcohol content as .15, nearly twice the state limit.

    Daniels and Adams were busted for indecent exposure and disorderly intoxication and booked into the local jail, where they were held until sobriety returned. While in custody, cops noted, “Adams decided to strip to his underwear.”

    Misdemeanor charges against Daniels and Adams, who are pictured in the above mug shots (click to enlarge), are pending in Michigan’s 48th District Court

  50. 63

    spews:

    Hey everyone, I’m live-commenting here from Westlake park! People over profits! I’m headed to a nearby Starbucks or Nike store to scream at the corporate tools inside! Who’s with me?

    PS, can someone watch my tent, and all the shit inside that I stole from local stores while I’m gone?

  51. 64

    Liberal Scientist wonders when Republicans will be done with the charade and finally just start using the Hitler Salute spews:

    As we see @62, our trolls once again advance subtle, thought-provoking, insightful arguments regarding critical issues facing the Republic.

  52. 66

    rhp6033 spews:

    Just FYI: Boeing isn’t “hiring like crazy”. Sure, they are doing some hiring, but it is pretty carefully targeted, and it is being done gradually.

    The Boeing web site lists a lot of positions such as “QC level 3 and 4″, which generally means Boeing is planning on making internal promotions/transfers, but is advertising the position generally to conform to EEOC guidelines.

    As for “novice” workers coming in as inexperienced Machinists, there was a big boom in hiring about three to four years ago as Boeing tried to throw manpower at the 787 program’s problems, but now the hiring is mainly to replace the expected attrition of older workers who retire over the next ten years. But everyone is expecting layoffs to begin sometime beginning in 2013 as the 787 program settles into a more mature production cycle, and they don’t need lots of machinists to “swarm” an airplane in order to complete travelling re-work on the flight line or in the second 787 re-work bays.

    At the same time, there is a flood of requests for transfers among senior workers (age 50+) from the 737 program in Renton. Those machinists are worried that the new 737-MAX is going to be built elsewhere, and they want to be settled into a program in Everett where they can finish out their careers locally.

    What everyone dreds is becoming laid off at age 55 or 60, since the odds of finding secure employment with benefits at that age are remarkably low. Most are lucky to get some intermittant contract work over the next five or ten years.

    Heck, even Texas Roadhouse Grill was sued this week by the government for conducting a discriminatory hiring policy which made minimum-wage “front of house” jobs unavailable to anyone who wasn’t “young and hot”.

  53. 67

    Michael spews:

    As for “novice” workers coming in as inexperienced Machinists, there was a big boom in hiring about three to four years ago as Boeing tried to throw manpower at the 787 program’s problems, but now the hiring is mainly to replace the expected attrition of older workers who retire over the next ten years.

    How much training does someone have to have to get one of those jobs?

  54. 68

    spews:

    Down with corporate greed! 9/11 was an inside job!! Tea baggers are nazis!!!

    Everyone come down to Westlake park. We are making a statement!

  55. 69

    Liberal Scientist wonders when Republicans will be done with the charade and finally just start using the Hitler Salute spews:

    @65

    Westy is not a troll? How do you account for this:

    50. Westy spews:

    These Downtown scumbags are merely unemployable losers bought & paid for by MoveOn.org who is promoting this charade. What a joke.
    They don’t want jobs.
    They somehow feel important with cameras on them.

  56. 70

    Michael spews:

    The NYT changes it story…

    http://thesocietypages.org/soc.....ll-street/
    NEW YORK TIMES SHIFTS ITS FRAMING OF THE ARRESTS AT OCCUPY WALL STREET
    by Lisa Wade, 1 day ago at 01:31 pm
    A blogger named Aluation posted this graphic showing how the New York Times changed the first line of a story about the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations. The change subtly shifted the blame for the mass arrest on the Brooklyn Bridge from the police to the protesters. In the first version of the story, police allowed them onto the bridge and then “cut off and arrested” them. In the second, there was a “showdown” in which demonstrators “marched onto the bridge.”

    Adding interest, the author of the piece was changed from “Colin Moynihan” to “Al Baker and Colin Moynihan.” Who is Al Baker? He is the guy in charge of the police bureau at the Times.

    This is a great example of how important language is in framing events. The difference isn’t dramatic, but a close look at the wording reveals a clear difference.

    It’s also a great example of the power of certain individuals and institutions to shape how the rest of us understand reality. We should be especially suspicious of the change in the authorship of the story. When reporters have “beats,” they have to maintain good relationships with important sources on those beats. They rely on the same sources, over and over, to provide inside scoops. If they alienate important sources, they have a much more difficult time doing their job.

  57. 71

    Michael spews:

    @69
    Must have mistaken him for someone else! Eeps. Still think that cop should get some double time pay though.

  58. 72

    spews:

    Fact: A guy I know said he heard that someone in an AOL chatroom said that he read on the internet that the group behind Occupy Wall Street has in the past said some anti-Jewish remarks.

  59. 74

    rhp6033 spews:

    Continuation of # 66: The financial plan for most Americans used to be rather simple. In your twenties, you got married, bought a house and a car or two, and had kids. You spent the next twenty years working to pay the bills, borrowing money to buy replacement cars, and if you were lucky you put a little aside in a college fund for your kids, a wedding for your girl, and for retirement later.

    Some 25 years or so later, your kids are out of college and out of the house. You are in your 50’s, and you have about ten years left before retirement. You have ten to fifteen years of reduced demands on your expenses, and you expect your house to be paid off a few years before you retire. So you take the opportunity to start saving heavily for retirement, with the goal of stretching your retirement savings to pay for another decade or so of retirement.

    But the economy over the past decade has made that difficult, if not impossible. Children have been unable to find jobs, and stay at home – some returning home with spouses and their own children in tow. Older workers have been hit with demands from management to accept significant salary reductions ranging from 10% to 50% of their pay. Some employers have illegally targeted older workers for layoffs of “forced resignations” in order to reduce the amount of money the company pays for health insurance premiums.

    And for older employees who are simply laid off, the economic consequences are devestating. I’ve known a number of these folks, some former colleagues in the industry, and few have been able to get new jobs at anything like their former positions. Employers simply don’t want to hire people who are going to retire within ten years anyway. Most of the work they find is contract work, without benefits, and they exhaust much of their savings on COBRA insurance premiums. By the time they reach the age where they can receive Social Security benefits, they have little else left.

    Of course, the wingnut trolls here presume that they should just “get a job”, as if it could be picked like an apple from a tree.

  60. 75

    Michael spews:

    @74

    And for older employees who are simply laid off, the economic consequences are devestating.

    It can be.

    OTOH, That happened to the fathers of a couple of buddies of mine back in the late 80’s, they discovered after reorganizing their lives and hanging out their own shingles that they were much happier living simplified lives and not working for the man.

  61. 76

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 67: That’s the million-dollar question, especially among those seeking Boeing jobs.

    For the 787 program, it appears that novice workers with no previous aerospace experience were hired, and lots of others with previous aerospace experience – even at Boeing – simply received no reply. But those with previous aerospace experience were often hired by contractors, and worked side-by-side with Boeing workers (as long as both workers belonged to IAM, it isn’t a union issue). It seems that some of the contract workers who are in high demand at Boeing still can’t get a job with Boeing itself. This creates a bit of a culture clash between the “blue badges” (Boeing employed) and “grey badges” (contrator employed).

    I have to reluctantly agree that it made sense for Boeing to hire newer, younger workers for the 787 program. The regular rounds of hiring and layoffs which are a part of the aerospace company had left Boeing with a serious “gray hair” problem – most of it’s remaining workers, protected from prior layoffs by seniority, would soon be retiring over the next decade, and taking their experience with them. Boeing needed to bring in new blood to replace them, and have them trained well in advance of the expected surge in retirements. Since everything on the 787 program was new – new materials, new proceedures, new design and manufacturing computer programs, etc. – it made sense to hire and train new workers, rather than to re-train the older workers.

    But like all things on the 787 program, Boeing management completely mis-calculated how long it takes to really train a worker in aerospace. They thought they could do it in three to four months, but it takes at least a couple of years, at a minimum, to learn to do things at a minimally acceptable level of expertise.

    When you are drilling holes for fasteners while lying on your back, stretching your arms twisting your drill into a location you can’t even see, and with tolerences measured in 1/1000 of an inch, experience is pretty important.

  62. 77

    Michael spews:

    @76
    Nice to see Boeing pickup up at least some of the cost of training the new folks.

    That’s really what I’m getting at. There may be “jobs,” but if the people needing jobs don’t have the skills to fill them they wont be getting those jobs. The righties aren’t even willing to pay for job training, which very much is a government service and one that every 1st world country invests in.

  63. 78

    Westy spews:

    FYI–
    Steve Jobs quit college because he didn’t want to waste his parents hard earned money anymore. Jobs said it was one of his best moves. Hardly a testimonial to higher education.
    Michael, I think too many colleges are preparing kids for failure & disappointment.
    I heard recently that it has gotten so bad in this regard that some employers like people with a simple Liberal Arts degree so they can train them,,,rather than know-it-alls with useless Master’s Degree’s that cost $75,000 or even BA’s where what they learned is superceded by new advancements before they graduate.

    That’s a good question, isn’t it.
    What are our colleges preparing students for??
    To be the smartest hobo hanging out at Starbucks all day trying to out-intellectualize someone in the same useless position as him/her??

  64. 79

    Michael spews:

    @78
    Bill Gates didn’t finish college either. Natalie Merchant’s a high school drop out. Steve Earle hit the road to play music with one of his uncles when he was in the 8th grade, both his new album and his new novel are fantastic.

    Michael, I think too many colleges are preparing kids for failure & disappointment.

    I couldn’t agree more. That’s why I didn’t say college. I’m talking about skills training for available jobs.

  65. 80

    Michael spews:

    @78

    I heard recently that it has gotten so bad in this regard that some employers like people with a simple Liberal Arts degree so they can train them,,,rather than know-it-alls with useless Master’s Degree’s that cost $75,000 or even BA’s where what they learned is superceded by new advancements before they graduate.

    LOL… In the field I’ve been in for the last decade or so we run into people with MSW’s: Masters in Social Work. Which seems to mean that they’re completely useless, but think highly of themselves and want to help- as long as you listen to them and do everything their way. They’re the one with the masters degree after all!

  66. 81

    rhp6033 spews:

    77: I think the state paid for a good portion of the initial training of 787 employees (three months) under one of the promises it made to get the 787 program.

    Currently the Aerospace Joint Apprenticeship Program is being sponsored by the state, some counties, employers, and the IAM. You can see more at http://www.ajactraining.org

  67. 82

    Michael spews:

    I know some folks who’s kid has a really expensive BA in nursing. Which you’d think would be a fast ticket to a hot job and it is, except the kid tried being a nurse for a couple of months and then went back to pulling shots at Starbucks. She didn’t like being a nurse.

    They could have figured that out at age 19 with an $800 CNA certificate.

    So yes, we need colleges. But, we need job training more and first.

  68. 84

    rhp6033 spews:

    Hey, I knew one guy in college (a former roommate of my brother-in-law) who kept changing majors every six months. His name was George.

    Changing majors wouldn’t be so bad, except that he didn’t just change majors within the department, he changed colleges within the university. He tried engineering, architecture, agriculture, and too many more for me to count. When I last heard of him, he had dropped out after six years without a degree – his father had refused to foot the bill anymore.

    Anyway, I spoke to my brother in law a while back, and asked him if he had heard from George. He had, and he had finally finished school, got his degree, and was now – a teacher! “Of course!” I exclaimed, slapping my forehead. “That makes perfect sense!”. I think he probably makes a great teacher – he has a love of learning, he just doesn’t want to confine it to a single area of study.

  69. 88

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    GOP Approves Racial Epithet

    The GOP-controlled house voted against a resolution condemning the use of a racial apithet in the Perry family’s hunting camp.

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com.....erry-ranch

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: No doubt some troll will post that Rep. Jackson’s resolution was a political ploy. I don’t think so. I believe it was heartfelt. But you’d almost have to be black to understand that.

  70. 89

    Julius 'Rosie' Rosenberg spews:

    re 68: When it comes to corporate greed, it is clear that you are a victim of Stockholm Syndrome.

    No matter how much you kiss the corporate ass, all you are going to end up with is a mouthfull of shit.

  71. 90

    Michael spews:

    @88

    Names on rocks, unless they’re on federal land, really aren’t the business of the house. The Perry’s are deplorable whack jobs, but I think the house just wasted a bunch of time.

    But you’d almost have to be black to understand that.

    I haven’t asked, but I’m pretty sure my black relations would agree with me on this. At least my nephew who shares a house with three while guys and calls their house CrackerVille would.

  72. 91

    Gman spews:

    @57 – so why you blaming the last 3 years or 2 1/2 years on Obama? Please explain how now B is following A or in your case how F is following U, meaning FU.

  73. 92

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    when are lefty nutballs gonna dust off that old hag Cindy Sheehan and bring her to the the party?

  74. 93

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @91

    shorter gleeman: insert penis A into asshole B, using free government provided butt-lube C.

  75. 94

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @66

    thats funny…I have seem them bring in new employees by the busload at Everett for orientation over the last few months…and the badging office in Seattle is always packed with new people going thru background check…..

    more of the same from RHPee…always talking out his ass and making stuff up.

  76. 95

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    78. Westy spews:
    FYI–
    Steve Jobs quit college because he didn’t want to waste his parents hard earned money anymore. Jobs said it was one of his best moves. Hardly a testimonial to higher education.
    Michael, I think too many colleges are preparing kids for failure & disappointment.
    I heard recently that it has gotten so bad in this regard that some employers like people with a simple Liberal Arts degree so they can train them,,,rather than know-it-alls with useless Master’s Degree’s that cost $75,000 or even BA’s where what they learned is superceded by new advancements before they graduate.

    That’s a good question, isn’t it.
    What are our colleges preparing students for??
    To be the smartest hobo hanging out at Starbucks all day trying to out-intellectualize someone in the same useless position as him/her??

    ask Professor(insert laughter here) HA Darwhyle how much his anthro degree is prepping people life after college…

    I mean, if you wanna be poor and get laughed at, go get an anthro degree

    the only employable ones are those that can pull of a scam like he’s done with his “research”(insert more laughter here).

  77. 96

    Gman spews:

    Mookie – you are the pot calling the kettle black. And for you knowledge I’ve worked a private job for the same company fir 23 years and make 6 digits and never ever collected a dime from the government in my life, so your accusations and thoughts are false and your arguments are empty, kind of like your brain.

  78. 97

    Puddybud, identifies Ekim AKA Turd For Brains, Another Cass Sunstein Malleable Homer Simpson idiot spews:

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: It is, of course, Republicans who sponsor “tax holidays” for corporations. Deficit reduction is just a ruse used by Republicans to eviscerate programs for working-class families. If they were serious about reducing deficits they wouldn’t support useless and unproductive tax holidays for big companies that don’t produce any jobs.

    PuddyRebuttal, and you don’t think corporate sponsors of the DUMMOCRAPTIC didn’t lay off peeps Roger DOPEY Rabbit? Sometimes the Rabbit DOPE really shines brightly.

  79. 101

    Michael spews:

    @100
    Rush Limbaugh trying to ride a bicycle would be funny. Sheehan’s just an annoying scold.

  80. 102

    spews:

    your accusations and thoughts are false and your arguments are empty, kind of like your brain.

    Exactly! Spot on Gman!

  81. 103

    Gman spews:

    @102 – I wonder if his girlfriend/wife is Michelle Bachmann, maybe Mookie is really Marcus.

  82. 104

    Gman spews:

    @102 – I think Mookie is on here more than you and he probably posts with 50% of the profiles on here. You keep doing what you do, especially if it irritates the queen.