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Who the fuck is klake and WHY is he/she/it so goddamn stupid?
[ ] 1. klake is Kevin Carns in drag
[ ] 2. klake is a talking myna bird
[ ] 3. klake is Stefan’s intern
[ ] 4. klake is John Wayne Bobbitt’s former dick
[ ] 5. klake is JCH’s illegitimate son
[ ] 6. klake is a fictional character in an Ayn Rand novel
[ ] 7. klake is a nazi
Who the fuck is klake and WHY is he/she/it so goddamn stupid?
[ X] 1. klake is Kevin Carns in drag
[ X] 2. klake is a talking myna bird
[ X] 3. klake is Stefan’s intern
[ X] 4. klake is John Wayne Bobbitt’s former dick
[ X] 5. klake is JCH’s illegitimate son
[ X] 6. klake is a fictional character in an Ayn Rand novel
[XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ] 7. klake is a nazi
Roger Rabbit will be caught by the Seattle parks folks and will become Roger Bobbitt.
So Goldy, when is that new and improved software going to show up?
Sheriff Dave has some problems. His voting record is so tied to the failed Bush regime that he’s gonna be lonely come November. Then there’s all that money he took from Tommy DeLay! Makes you want to go HUM!
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Good morning you LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWNS!! It’s April 13th (most of you idiots don’t care because you don’t have jobs!).
It’s now DAY 156 in the Traffic Congestion Improvement Vigil since extorting 9-1/2 cents per gallon from fellow KLOWNS and us hard-workin’ folks and guess what?
1) The AWV is still standing and there is no fucking plan on precisely what to do except spend more $$$ talkin’ about it.
2) Traffic still SUCKS
3) GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!
Thursday, April 13, 2006
Sims pushes sexual safety
P-I STAFF
“King County Executive Ron Sims will announce a new public education effort, “Secure Your Load,” today at 10 a.m. at the north parking lot of Qwest Field in Seattle.”
I’m sure Sims is hoping Bob from Boeing and all his buddies will show up!!!!!! I wonder if he is going to use Bill Clinton as a guest speaker!!
Congratulations are in order for Mr C! During his “last” internment they finally taught ‘it’ to cut and paste. Most wingnuts are learning another ‘version ‘, cut their wrists or get their pictures ‘pasted’ on the post office’s most wanted list.
It’s a great day to remind all the righties here in Washington that they are in the minority. The Dems, well WE control the Governor’s mansion, WE control King County, WE control the Legislature and there’s nothing you inbred baby raping cowards can do about it. Oh and by the way,
CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T! CHRISTINE GREGOIRE IS GOVERNOR AND ROSSI ISN’T!
Voter Advocate @ 5 asked the best question of the thread — when can we begin flushing all this crap down the toilet. Let Mr. Cynical (aka, Mr. paid hack for reactionary business interests) whine all he wants about censorship. If he can’t have an intelligent conversation he’ll just need to go where he belongs.
I just went to the Darcy Burner website and looked at the video that has caused the Rethugs to bleat.
http://www.darcyburner.com/videos/darcyburner.mov
While it is certainly true that the video has high production values, you’d think the wingnuts would realize that such media creations are well within the capability of many using their own equipment and skills. Jumping to the conclusion that such a video must be evidence of an illegal contribution because “Judging by the advanced camera work, it seems like it was professionally done”, is just, well, wingnutty.
http://www.wsrp.org/images/wa/.....plaint.pdf
MoveOn.org received hundreds of video submissions for use as campaign ads in 2004. The GOP certainly knows that, since they screamed then about a few that compared Bush to Hitler (which I thought an apt juxtaposition.)
They really hate it when they get beat, don’t they?
Mexico has announced it seeks closer ties with Iran. They are suggesting military cooperation, among other ideas. How a tequila-drinking, pork-eating, Catholic country is supposed to get along with a strict Muslim theocracy has yet to be announced, but this proposed alliance does offer the US a unique opportunity. We can now bring our national guard troops home from Iraq and put them on the southern border because Mexico would have allied itself with Islamo-terroist state. It’s also a good reason to build a wall between us and Mexico. It could be that the actions of the Mexican government might indirectly solve the illegal immigration problem!
You could have made that video with a $500 camera and $89 worth of software that usually comes free with most computers. Once again, if this is all the morons on the right have, they’re in real trouble.
Yossarian@12: “It’s better to have your enemies inside your tent pissing outside than to have them outside your tent pissing inside.” LBJ
Too bad he couldn’t have followed his own advice a little better.
“Fortress America”, eh Yossarian? That attitude may get you votes but how far do you think your corporate masters will allow you to go with it?
Well Harry, let’s just wait and see what happens. Let’s see if some Islamic crazy nutcase or a group of them conduct another attack in the US. My bet is that they will, and the borders, north and south, aren’t much of a preventative measure to keeping them out.
Mexico aligning themsleves with Iran is not a good move if Mexicans are interested in US-Mexican harmony.
-It’s now DAY 156 in the Traffic Congestion Improvement Vigil since extorting 9-1/2 cents per gallon from fellow KLOWNS and us hard-workin’ folks and guess what?-
Too funny. Mr. Cynical seems to be the only person left in this state that even noticed. Since destabilizing wars, overpopulation in Asia, and greedy oil companies have caused the price of gas to increase more than 70 CENTS in the last four months alone, it takes a real nutjob to count the days since the legislature enacted the 9 cent gas tax.
And pray tell, Mr. Cynical, how is it that we are being “extorted” when a fairly strong majority of the state’s voters upheld this tax, anyways? Is it possible to extort oneself? (I suppose for a psycho like you, anything is possible)
At least with gas tax dollars, you know they’re going to benefit this state, rather than one of the Bush family/cabal’s Arab dictator friends, or record profits for Big Stinkin’ Oil.
-Mexico has announced it seeks closer ties with Iran. They are suggesting military cooperation, among other ideas. –
Yossarian – do you just make this stuff up, or did one of your favorite fake news tabloids “inform” you on this matter?
I see that former Alaskan Senator Mike Gravel is filing for the Democratic nomination for President.
I was a resident of Alaska for many years and am familiar with Mike’s record.
I know that insults and namecalling are the norm on this site, so it might not have much effect if I tell you that Mike is insane. But all hyperbole aside — he really is.
Yeah, Yossarian, I’ve hear about the Iran and Mexico education ministries agreeing to cooperation in vocational and science exchange programs, but nothing else.
Where did you hear they were agreeing to military cooperation?
Hey VA-
He pulled it out of his ass like everything else he posts.
18.
I don’t think the prospects of a man 76 years-old in a presidential campaign should concern any of us. Particularly since it’s been 26 years since anyone has heard of him.
Roger and Gang it appears the terrorist are having trouble-dogging missiles in their own backyard, pity. That brings out a new meaning to reach out and touch somebody.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12295616/
Airstrike in Pakistan kills top al-Qaida militant
NBC News: Up to 14 slain, including high-ranking Egyptian bombmaker
MIRAN SHAH, Pakistan – A high-ranking member of the al-Qaida terrorist network was killed in an airstrike on a remote village in western Pakistan, U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News on Thursday.
Mohsin Musa Matawalli Atwah was among as many as 14 suspected militants who were killed in the attack in the North Waziristan tribal region village of Anghar Kalai, near the Afghan border, the officials told NBC News.
Roger and Gang is that 3 foot above ground level or 3 foot above the top of the dike? That will be debated after the next storm.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12286658/
FEMA: Many New Orleans homes must be lifted
At least 3-foot elevation needed for insurance requirement, agency says
By Peter Whoriskey and Spencer S. Hsu
Updated: 10:50 p.m. ET April 12, 2006
The Bush administration proposed spending an additional $2.5 billion for New Orleans levee construction yesterday as it issued long-awaited construction guidelines for the flood-prone region that would require rebuilding many heavily damaged houses at least three feet above ground.
-Where did you hear they were agreeing to military cooperation?-
Or, should we just cue the sound of crickets again, Yossarian?
My god, somehow klake is able to do his A.D.D. routine even on an open thread!
Roger and Gang the cost for your Meds are going up soon and the Smugglers are loving it. Sweet!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12170424/from/RL.5/
Stricter Rules Good for Mexican Smugglers
By JULIE WATSON
Updated: 2:54 p.m. ET April 5, 2006
DOLORES HIDALGO, Mexico – Barely 18, Jose belongs to Mexico’s new generation of migrant smugglers _ young, savvy and happy to see Uncle Sam further tighten border security. Why? It’s good for business, he says.
Jose figures more migrants will seek his help if the U.S. Senate approves legislation to double the Border Patrol and put up a virtual wall of unmanned vehicles, cameras and sensors to monitor the 2,000-mile border with Mexico.
Did any of you dimbulbs on the right read the report that came out this week disclosing that Seattle is the most educated big city in the country? Over half of Seattle’s adult residents have at least a college degree. Predictably, 4 of the 5 best educated cities in the nation are among the most liberal–Seattle, San Francisco, Washington, and Boston (Atlanta is the other). This study, of course, lends support to an obvious conclusion: education leads to liberal political views. Naturally, that is why Republicans hate education and seek to defund public schools.
re 15: You’re sowing fear amongst old Republican ladies who think filling a gas tank is too complicated for women to master. Smoking and hamburgers will kill more people this year than terrorists will in a dozen lifetimes, but I don’t see anyone hitting the deck and covering up when they see a quarter-pounder.
Do you have poop for brains , Yossarian.
Yossarian: We need candidates in this country who can get a message of realism accross to people. Their progeny’s future is going down the drain so the military/industrial complex can make billions creating “bunker busters”. How ’bout using that money for developing alternative energy sources.
“Can you say “oil industry”?
“I knew you could!”
Why does the White House not respect our military?
Rumsfeld Rebuked By Retired Generals
The retired commander of key forces in Iraq called yesterday for Donald H. Rumsfeld to step down, joining several other former top military commanders who have harshly criticized the defense secretary’s authoritarian style for making the military’s job more difficult.
“I think we need a fresh start” at the top of the Pentagon, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who commanded the 1st Infantry Division in Iraq in 2004-2005, said in an interview. “We need leadership up there that respects the military as they expect the military to respect them. And that leadership needs to understand teamwork.”
Batiste noted that many of his peers feel the same way. “It speaks volumes that guys like me are speaking out from retirement about the leadership climate in the Department of Defense,” he said earlier yesterday on CNN.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....rrer=email
“We won’t get fooled again,” retired Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold, who held the key post of director of operations on the staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 2000 to 2002, wrote in an essay in Time magazine this week. Listing a series of mistakes such as “McNamara-like micromanagement,” a reference to the Vietnam War-era secretary of defense, Newbold called for “replacing Rumsfeld and many others unwilling to fundamentally change their approach.”
Last month, another top officer who served in Iraq, retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, wrote an opinion piece for the New York Times in which he called Rumsfeld “incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically.” Eaton, who oversaw the training of Iraqi army troops in 2003-2004, said that “Mr. Rumsfeld must step down.”
Also, retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, a longtime critic of Rumsfeld and the administration’s handling of the Iraq war, has been more vocal lately as he publicizes a new book, “The Battle for Peace.”
“The problem is that we’ve wasted three years” in Iraq, said Zinni, who was the chief of the U.S. Central Command, which oversees Iraq and the rest of the Middle East, in the late 1990s. He added that he “absolutely” thinks Rumsfeld should resign.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....rrer=email
THE INVASION INTENSIFIES [Millions Of New Third World Democrat Voters Are Coming!!]
In Nogales, Mexico, not far from the U.S. border, there’s a shelter. The shelter is a safe house for Mexicans who are waiting their chance or their turn to illegally enter the United States. Right now that shelter is overflowing. Francisco Loureiro manages this particular staging point for the Mexican invasion. Laureiro tells the Associated Press that there hasn’t been so many “migrants” in that shelter since 1986. And just what was happening in 1986? That’s when the United States congress granted amnesty to 2.6 million illegal aliens in this country, allowing them to get their American citizenship.
Why are the invaders clogging the safe house now? They’re encouraged by a U.S. Congress that is clearly getting ready for another grant of blanket amnesty to people who intentionally violated our laws by coming here, staying here and working here. Some of the invaders staying at the shelter are saying that family members already in the U.S. are encouraging them to hurry up and get here while there’s a chance.
There are other staging points along the Mexican – Arizona border. At one such in the desert 40 vans full of invaders arrived in just one afternoon. Come nightfall this particular segment of the invasion force would cross the border and start walking. There will be no U.S. troops there to stop them.
First step — close the border. What are our politicians waiting for?
Black DEMOCRAT BREAKING HOUSE RULES [Noone cares, because he is black!! Blacks are special!]
Our old friend John Conyers of Michigan is in the soup. Now, this story is being reported by CNN…but that seems to be the only news outlet that’s giving it any prominence. CNN is even reporting that Conyers is a Democrat. Imagine that! A little fair and balanced reporting from CNN. I guess there’s a first time for anything.
Anyway, Conyers is under fire for misusing his staff…and there are some dandy accusations flying around. Two former staff members have come forward to allege that the Michigan Democrat:
Routinely brought his two young sons to work to be babysat by his staff….the same staff that is on the government payroll. His legal adviser says there were times he had to call around as late as 9 o’clock at night trying to find Conyers, so he could give his kids back. Some father. One staff member even moved into Conyers house to become his full-time nanny, again while on the government payroll.
And now for the cardinal sin: Conyers used his Congressional staff to help run his campaign. That is a no-no. We’ll see if the ethics committee takes an interest in that one.
Now ask yourself something. If this had been a Republican, would the coverage of it be confined to CNN? What if it were say…Tom DeLay or Bill Frist? The media would be jumping up and down screaming. As it is, Conyers gets treated with kid gloves. Just another day at the office for the liberal media.
Roger and Gang the report on the France and how the citizens of the world see them. League of the human’s right says the government primarily brought it on over the social problems with immigration, delinquency and insecurity. Something that Seattle can learn from with its wild policies.
La France en danger de stigmatisation des étrangers
Le rapport annuel de la Ligue des droits de l’homme s’inquiète de l’implantation du credo «immigration, délinquance et insécurité» dans les esprits et les politiques publiques.
par Florence FABRER
LIBERATION.FR : jeudi 13 avril 2006 – 16:45
http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=374722
L’année 2005 a été marquée par «la montée des réflexes discriminatoires et xénophobes» envers les étrangers, ont estimé jeudi matin les représentants de la Ligue des droits de l’Homme (LDH). L’organisation a publié son rapport annuel sur «L’état des droits de l’Homme en France» où elle analyse les événements de l’année 2005, complété par un dossier consacrée aux droits des femmes. Ce rapport pointe du doigt les «dérives des politiques publiques» et les réponses essentiellement «sécuritaires» apportées par le gouvernement aux problèmes sociaux. La LDH accuse les discours du gouvernement, qui associent depuis quelques mois «immigration, délinquance et insécurité» d’être à l’origine de la hausse des tensions liées à la discrimination. Cet amalgame, reprenant le credo politique de Jean-Marie Le Pen depuis des années, semble s’encrer dans «l’inconscient collectif» et présente un réel danger de «stigmatisation des étrangers» considère la Ligue.
I didn’t make any of the stuff up. I heard it ont the radio and find it almost as hard to belive as you liberals do.
“A lot of them are hugely frustrated,” in part because Rumsfeld gave the impression that “military advice was neither required nor desired” in the planning for the Iraq war, said retired Lt. Gen. Wallace Gregson, who until last year commanded Marine forces in the Pacific Theater. He said he is sensing much anger among Americans over the administration’s handling of the war and thinks the continuing criticism from military professionals will fuel that anger as the November elections approach. He declined to discuss his own views.
Another retired officer, Army Maj. Gen. John Riggs, said he believes that his peer group is “a pretty closemouthed bunch” but that, even so, his sense is “everyone pretty much thinks Rumsfeld and the bunch around him should be cleared out.”
He emphatically agrees, Riggs said, explaining that he believes Rumsfeld and his advisers have “made fools of themselves, and totally underestimated what would be needed for a sustained conflict.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....rrer=email
Why does the White House hate our military so?
OOPS! I forgot to translate for you chaps who can not read Freavh.
The year 2005 was remembered by “the rise of the discriminatory reflexes and xenophobes” towards the foreigners, estimated Thursday morning the representatives of the League of the humans right (LDH). The organization published his annual report on “the state of the humans right in France” where it analyzes the events of the year 2005, supplemented by a file devoted to the women’s rights. This report/ratio points finger the “drifts of the public policies” and the “sedentary” answers primarily brought by the government to the social problems. The LDH shows the speeches of the government, which have associated for a few months “immigration, delinquency and insecurity” to be at the origin of the rise of the tensions related to discrimination. This amalgam, taking again the political creed of Jean-Marie the PEN since years, seems encrer in “the unconscious collective” and presents a real danger of “stigmatization from abroad” considers the League.
This is the only country on Earth that thinks it’s not sporting to consider our own interests in choosing immigrants. Try showing up in any other country on the planet, illiterate and penniless, and announcing: “I’ve seen pictures of your country and it looks great. I think I’d like to live here! Oh, and by the way, would you mind changing all your government and business phone messages, street signs and ballots into my native language? Thanks!” They would laugh you out of the country.
What seems not to have occurred to the “NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL” crowd is that this is a country, not a public park.
There are more than 6 billion people in the world, many of whom apparently like the idea of living in the wealthiest democracy on Earth. But if the billions of people of the world did live here, it wouldn’t be “here” anymore. America is special for a reason that must transcend the right to vote — or everyone would be trying to immigrate to Iraq right now.
America has a seller’s market in immigration, but thanks to Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 immigration law, we no longer favor skilled workers from developed nations, but instead favor unskilled immigrants from the Third World. Kennedy’s bill promptly cut the number of European immigrants in half and increased Third World immigrants to 85 percent of the total.
Not surprisingly, post-1965 immigrants have sharply higher levels of poverty and welfare dependence. Europeans may not seem like ideal new immigrants, but the truth is, if what they want is welfare, they’ll stay in France.
It’s as if we’ve got the last Xbox 360s available on Christmas Eve and instead of doubling the price, we’re entertaining low-ball offers. Or more accurately, we’re paying our customers to take the darn things off our hands — and the customers are still indignant with us.
On CNN’s “Lou Dobbs Tonight” on Monday, Dobbs was interviewing Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican-American Political Association about his demand for “full immediate, unconditional legalization for all persons currently in the United States.”
Dobbs posed this innocuous question about Lopez’s planned boycott, “You’re talking about a boycott of all illegal aliens in this country?”
Lopez exploded: “Well, first off, I refute your terminology. You don’t say ‘kike,’ ‘patty,’ ‘WOP,’ OK. You don’t say “nigger”! … You’re using language that’s offensive to me and offensive to my people! … You pollute the air every day, Dobbs. … That language is offensive, it’s derogatory, it’s denigrating, and don’t use that terminology to me again, referring to my people!”
Dobbs eventually ended Lopez’s Tourette’s episode by calmly asking him what he expected the impact of the boycott to be.
An hour later on MSNBC’s “Hardball,” Dave Rodriguez, of the League of United Latin American Citizens, leapt in to denounce Rep. Tom Tancredo for using the word “amnesty.” He said: “There isn’t any such thing as amnesty in this law. I don’t understand what this debate is. That’s your own terminology on it …”
Bank robbers and drug dealers ought to start claiming that the words “bank robber” and “drug dealer” are akin to the N-word. They could accuse lawmakers of “criminalizing felonies” and claim they don’t understand what the word “jailbreak” means.
At the same time on CNN’s “The Situation Room,” Maria Elena Salinas, an anchor at Univision, was informing Wolf Blitzer that “all Hispanics feel offended by what has been going on, by the rhetoric, the level of the negativity that you hear coming out of Capitol Hill and also on some television stations and by some journalists.”
So it’s really more like we’ve got the last Xbox 360s available on Christmas Eve and the customers are not only demanding money to take the hottest sales item off our hands, but are verbally abusing us and acting petulant. I’m offended that you would even think about asking me to pay for the Xbox 360! You say it has a “20 GB detachable hard drive”? Well, would you use the word “kike”?
As hardworking as illegal immigrants are when they come here, they are immediately demagogued by liberals into adopting the victimhood pose so popular on college campuses. Everybody wants to act like his ancestors were brought here on slave ships.
Consider this e-mail from Michele Waslin, La Raza’s director of Immigration Policy Research, to her members denouncing Sen. Lamar Alexander’s proposal to provide government grants to immigrants who want to learn English and American history and to organizations offering those courses. (I’d be happy with a law that simply trained new immigrants not to be “offended” all the time.)
Even though this potentially meant free money for La Raza, Waslin — of the Guadalajara Waslins — ominously warned that while the amendment “doesn’t overtly mention assimilation, it is very strong on the patriotism and traditional American values language in a way which is potentially dangerous to our communities.”
Meanwhile, Americans aren’t allowed to consider whether millions of immigrants refusing to learn English and American history is “potentially dangerous to our communities.” Here, please — we’ll pay you, just take the whole Xbox 360 factory.
Isn’t it interesting how Republicans are so shy about the source of their foolishness? Yossarian heard it on the Radio (what, Michael Savage?) and Just another Chicken Hawk just posts whatever Rush Limbauh is saying.
Well, at least we know one thing for sure about Just another Chicken Hawk. There is no way his racist ass lives on Hawaii, he wouldn’t do well is such a multi-cultural enviroment, especially one where he is the imigrant.
In other news:
Stephan Sharansky reports that people are registering illegal aliens to vote.
His proof? None, but apparently one of his readers saw someone registering voters at the march on Monday. And with all those brown skinned people around, you just know they have to all be foreigners.
So, apparently racist thinking like this is not limited to [Just another Chicken Hawk].
JDB – It was either KVI, KIRO, or Air America. I can’t rmemeber which because I listen to them all, from time to time.
OK, you don’t like the idea of building a wall. To tell you the truth, it’s an impractical idea, and I don’t think it would be worth the cost. What about bringing the national guard home from Iraq and putting them on the border to intercept illegal immigrants? It’s a win-win: the Iraq mess gets closed down, which many liberals want, and we take an action to secure the borders. What do you think, JDB?
Powell: U.S. made ‘serious mistakes’ in Iraq
“We made some serious mistakes in the immediate aftermath of the fall of Baghdad,” Powell told a crowd of thousands at the McCormick Place conference. “We didn’t have enough troops on the ground. We didn’t impose our will. And as a result, an insurgency got started, and . . . it got out of control.”
http://www.suntimes.com/output.....ell09.html
Yossarian:
Actually, I think walls in certain locations, combined with electronic surveilance would be the best idea (which is what the Senate Bill had). I have no troube with strengthing the borders (although I find it interesting that it took five years after 9/11 to get to this), but I am also not so naive as to think you will ever prevent cheap labor from coming over the border.
And I think none of this has any meaning unless you realistically deal with the 11 million or so people who are already here.
In the UK:
Prince Harry becomes a Lieutenant and there is a reasonable chance that he may be sent to Iraq or Afghanistan.
In the U.S.:
The Bush twins are seen dirty dancing and slamming margaritas in a bar in Georgetown.
Other posters beat me to it. The chorus of disenchanged retired generals is becoming a full-fledged choir, calling for the resignation of Rumsfield.
The problem with Rumsfield is that he thinks he is Kissinger, or a modern-day Metternicht (sp>). He wants to play Machiavelian politics on the mid-east stage, and thought Saddam Husein (and Iraq) could be “managed” to support U.S. interests. He was (is)wrong.
Before the war started Rumsfield was warned by many in the military that they did not have enough troops on the ground. His management of the “pacification” effort has been totally inept. Even those who believe that war between the U.S. and Iraq was inevitable have to admit that there was no real or realistic plan for post-war Iraq, and that portion of the war has been bungled.
Illegal immigration from Mexico will not stop until Mexico turns itself around and provides a climate where it people can live, work and prosper. As it is now, it’s a corrupt third world nations, and Vincente Fox has failed miserably at improving things.
Yossarian’s idea of building a wall is not a good idea, and he(she?) even owns up to that. I gree with stopping the Iraq disaster, however: it has gone on too long.
NEWS ITEM:
Roger Rabbit finally captured by Seattle parks workers at Greenlake. To become “Roger Bobbitt” after being sent to vet in population control campaign.
Wow — no new topics posted on Sound Politics in the past 36 hours. Wonder if all their commenters were out assisting in the search for Roger Rabbit?
The minnow’s crowd is probably too bush trying to see if Maria Cantwell ever had a parking ticket and if anyone is signing up brown skin people to vote to actually post.
Well, at least we know one thing for sure about Just another Chicken Hawk. There is no way his racist ass lives on Hawaii, he wouldn’t do well is such a multi-cultural enviroment, especially one where he is the imigrant.
Commentby JDB— 4/13/06@ 10:01 am [Wrong again, asshole. Try the 808 area code. I am John Galt. I surf, dive, cut the grass, and keep my taxes to a bare minimum. You asshole lib parasite Democrats will need to tax and eat each other, as I quit the game. Oh…….Fuck you.]
In the UK:
Prince Harry becomes a Lieutenant and there is a reasonable chance that he may be sent to Iraq or Afghanistan.
In the U.S.:
The Bush twins are seen dirty dancing and slamming margaritas in a bar in Georgetown.
Commentby JDB— 4/13/06@ 10:40 am
So, are you advocating a constitutional monarchy for the US, JDB?
The Bush twins are seen dirty dancing and slamming margaritas in a bar in Georgetown.
Commentby JDB— 4/13/06@ 10:40 am [Chelsea Clinton was seen giving a blow job to Jesse “9 inch” Jackson and swallowing every drop of “Tookie” cum. How nice of you to bring in the thread the Bush daughters. Two can play.]
51…..Al Gore’s Daughter has nice boobs and perfers giving head to Black Panthers. [You opened the door, JDB]
Further Proof that [Just another Chicken Hawks] racism all comes because he has a small penis.
Yeah, you live in Hawaii the same way I live on the Moon. Look me up there, I’m known as Ignignokt.
Libertarian:
Nope, but isn’t it interesting that Prince Charles son may serve in a war that I believe Prince Charles is against? Has Bush set his children down and explained to them how important this war is? If he cannot convince his own children, how can he convince anyone else?
JDB (and I, for that matter) want the folks who think this illegal war is such a grand idea to SEND THEIR OWN KIDS to fight it and put their goddamn money where their goddamn mouth is.
Oh, and from where I sit…The Boooshies WANT a constitutional monarchy…without that pesky Constitution.
re 30: They are waiting for American businessmen to stop hiring them. Then all this hoo-rah would disappear overnight.
Naturally, that is why Republicans hate education and seek to not fund public schools.
Comment by proud leftist— 4/13/06@ 9:38 am
Proud leftist this state is governed by Socialist Democrats and the education in Seattle really sucks. What does the Republicans and Democrats have to do with the problem unless you are rambling on like usual. With all the new immigrants coming from south of the border the two local papers will go bankrupt because the uneducated do not read. Finally yet importantly, the State is reasonable for all the funding for Schools not the Feds. Those communities who increase their tax base to pay for schools are relieving the state of their reasonability. Now do not get confuse about who is a Socialist Democrat and they are not the same group as the Democrats. Socialist expects the government to take care of all their needs, and they do not have to contribute nothing for the services. They are like a communist but they have a large high archery to take from the rich and give to the peasants. Communists takes from everyone and redistributes it all back out and the leadership lives like a King.
Naturally, that is why Republicans hate education and seek to not fund public schools.
Comment by proud leftist— 4/13/06@ 9:38 am [Wrong…..Republicans hate Democrat union controlled public “education”. Very expensive, and piss poor results. Get it, Proud Leftist??]
I think “klake” is really “Topo Gigio”.
I think [Just another Chicken Hawk] never received an education.
Klake,
I’m not sure I follow your post. Are you still working toward that GED? My point was that the more educated a populace becomes (like the residents of Seattle or Boston), the more liberal or progressive that populace tends to become. So, naturally, Republicans do not much care for educating the populace; they recognize that by keeping folks ignorant and scared, they are more susceptible to being snookered by the Republican powers-that-be. I was actually trying to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek because there are other factors at play, but I recognize that subtlety is something that slips right by true believers like you.
-Proud leftist this state is governed by Socialist Democrats and the education in Seattle really sucks. What does the Republicans and Democrats have to do with the problem unless you are rambling on like usual.-
Wow, klake. A little irony between those two sentences, no? Have you ever tried re-reading your own garbled sentences, or taken a look at your consistently bad grammar? Do you blame your all of your own failings on “socialist liberals” and their education system?
You seem to have a very strong tendency towards finding other “escape goats” (your words, not mine) to excuse your own sorry ass. And as such, the resulting frustration and anger makes it kind of inevitable you ended up as a hateful right winger….
LiberalRedneck,
Nice bitchslapping of the old Klakester. Sometimes I think it would be quite entertaining to have a psychiatrist review the posts of some of the more rabid trolls (JCH, Mark the Redneck, Klake et al) and attach a DSM-IV diagnosis. Some of these lads could use a little medication.
Proud Leftist……It’s nice to know I’m retired and pay little taxes to support Democrat leftist losers like you. I’m certain you have the same amount of military service as Goldysteinloeb [ie, NONE] Piss ant pussy libs like you are easy to spot.
klake is a cut and paste flake. No synapses firing in the grey matter to speak of.
Your Republican Government at Work:
ATF agents are always on alert for anything suspicious — including ninjas.
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm agents, on campus Tuesday for Project Safe Neighborhoods training, detained a “suspicious individual” near the Georgia Center, University Police Chief Jimmy Williamson said.
Jeremiah Ransom, a sophomore from Macon, was leaving a Wesley Foundation pirate vs. ninja event when he was detained.
After being held in investigative detention, he was found to have violated no criminal laws and was not arrested.
http://www.redandblack.com/vne.....c71ed40b94
Check out the cool photo of the bust at the site!
In a telling reflection of Bush’s erosion in public support, 54% said they did not trust him to “make the right decision about whether we should go to war with Iran,”
http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....-headlines
JCH @ 63
The thought of you being permitted to serve in the military is quite troubling, and would indicate how vulnerable this nation is. Your obsessive-compulsive disorder, obvious to any first year psychology student, should have kept you out of the service. By the way, I could give a rat’s ass whether someone has served in the military.
…By the way, I could give a rat’s ass whether someone has served in the military.
Commentby proud leftist— 4/13/06@ 3:34 pm
Did you spend any time in the service, proud?
-JDB – It was either KVI, KIRO, or Air America. I can’t rmemeber which because I listen to them all, from time to time.-
Too funny: Yossarian claims that Mexico is now going to start working with Iran to help them spread world terrorism via porous borders with the US – and yet he can’t find a SINGLE CITATION to back it up?
I mean, it’s obvious 9/10ths of the right wingers who waste our time on these threads are clueless, but do you have to make shit up to try and formulate your arguments, Yossarian? Or, is the ignorance just purposeful – you know, troll country?
Guess what, Yossarian: the reason you couldn’t find a single citation on the internet is because YOUR IDIOTIC “STORY” DOESN’T EXIST.
Hey ASSHeads, If Libby said he was not directed to leak Plame’s name by the President or Vice President, is the MSM drumming sumtin that the donkos want out there?
From the bried filed yesterday: “Consistent with his grand jury testimony, Mr. Libby does not contend that he was instructed to make any disclosures concerning Ms. Wilson by President Bush, Vice President Cheney, or anyone else.”
Yossarian,
I did not; I never even considered it. I’m of the post-draft generation, so I did not have to consider how to deal with that. I would have been a shitty soldier (I don’t take orders well) and my religious views are not terribly compatible with military service, so not enlisting was plainly the right thing for me. I am getting tired of military service being used as a litmus test for whether a person is patriotic or whether a person is a viable political candidate. If someone wants to go into the military, great. But, that decision should hardly define a person’s willingness or capacity to serve this nation.
JDB: You are right about my missing the dates. Kudos to you. But I do remember seeing this. I forgot to use it in my argument. Having finished the major part of my job this week I can relax and resume searching.
You may remember the NIE being discussed by Ari Fleischer at his daily press conference or not!
For Immediate Release, Office of the Press Secretary, October 9, 2002
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news.....-3.html#11
But the most eye-popping instance appears in this week’s Time magazine, where retired Lt. Gen. Greg Newbold, the former operations director for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, not only slams the secretary and what he calls “the unnecessary war” but also urges active-duty officers who share his views to speak up. Newbold resigned his position in late 2002—quite a gesture, since he was widely regarded as a candidate for the next Marine Corps commandant. His fellow officers knew he resigned over the coming war in Iraq. The public and the president did not. He writes in Time:
“I now regret that I did not more openly challenge those who were determined to invade a country whose actions were peripheral to the real threat—al-Qaeda. … [T]he Pentagon’s military leaders … with few exceptions, acted timidly when their voices urgently needed to be heard. When they knew the plan was flawed, saw intelligence distorted to justify a rationale for war, or witnessed arrogant micromanagement that at times crippled the military’s effectiveness, many leaders who wore the uniform chose inaction. … It is time for senior military leaders to discard caution in expressing their views and ensure that the President hears them clearly. And that we won’t be fooled again.
http://www.slate.com/id/2139777/?nav=ais
Puddy at 72:
You need to read the entire article you post. First of all, they are talking about a different NIE. In fact, these questions come about due to Bush and Tennant supposedly differing over whether or not Saddam would use WMD if we invaded:
“Q: I would like to go back to the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq for a moment. Senator Graham said that his purpose in releasing or publicizing this portion that would be classified was to draw attention to the judgment of the estimate that the likelihood of Saddam using weapons of mass destruction in a terrorist attack against the United States actually was increased substantially if we attack him. Given that you said twice now, I believe, that the President doesn’t dispute anything that’s in that National Intelligence Estimate, doesn’t this argue for a very different approach to dealing with the problems of disarming him?”
Its not like no one knew that NIEs existed before Scooter’s leak, and it is not like other NIEs had been declassified. After all, the NIE in question with Scooter Libby was declassified, as you pointed out, after he leaked it.
JDB: I’m tired this evening. It has been a long week so the links are naked tonight.
Why would Reuters print this JDB:
“The court documents did not say that Bush or Cheney authorized Libby to disclose Plame’s identity.”
http://reuters.myway.com/artic.....AK-DC.html
Or why would the Associated Press write this:
“There was no indication in the filing that either Bush or Cheney authorized Libby to disclose Valerie Plame’s CIA identity. But it points to Cheney as one of the originators of the idea that Plame could be used to discredit her husband, Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson.”
http://www.washtimes.com/natio.....-8080r.htm
The special prosecutor wrote it. And since you brag about being so right all the time you must know he had to retract a statement last Tuesday he got wrong, to the point where the judge has told Fitzgerald: “In a brief order, U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton said such action by the lawyers could impair the court’s “ability to ensure that both sides receive a fair trial.” He gave the lawyers until April 21 to say why he should not restrict their contact with the media.
Walton appears upset over the release Tuesday night of a letter from Fitzgerald to the judge correcting one sentence in a prosecution filing from a week ago.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5754319,00.html
And JDB I like this one being forced on Fitzgerald. If you get the drift of this in the Libby Brief: “The government’s arguments about motive further underscore that the defense is entitled to discovery about whether Ms. Wilson’s employment status was classified, as the defense has requested in previous motions. The government resists disclosing information regarding the allegedly classified status of Ms. Wilson’s employment, and the knowledge and understanding of others as to whether that employment was classified, on the ground that the information is not relevant to the defense. Yet, almost in the same breath, the government presents an argument on Mr. Libby’s motive to lie that makes this information highly relevant and material to preparation of the defense”
http://amerivic.blogspot.com/2.....t-for.html
Remember JDB Fitzgerald has not offered any evidence on Plame’s status and has so far refused to offer any such evidence. And Fitzgerald has not offered any evidence that the disclosure of Wilson’s identity in any way harmed national security. So if Fitzgerald has to prove Plame was covert and provide evidence for him to have a case. If he proves she was not covert, you LOSE!
And JDB: This just filed by the NY Times: “Lawyers for a former White House aide say they need access to more evidence in the CIA leak investigation because a prosecutor has played up the roles of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney in disclosing intelligence on Iraq to reporters.”
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....ref=slogin
JDB: No this was the only NIE that was performed by the CIA at that time. It references the CIA.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports.....t_2002.htm
Good try Mr. Always right!
JDB: This was the only one JDB!!
http://www.cfr.org/publication.html?id=7758
“How long does it take to write an NIE? NIE drafting guidelines included in the July 9 Senate report describe three rough timeframes: a “fast track” of two to three weeks, a “normal track” of four to eight weeks, and a “long track” of two months or more. The vice chairman of the NIC told Senate investigators that an NIE prepared in 60 days would be considered a very fast schedule and that NIEs typically take three to six months to complete.
How long did it take for the NIE on Iraq’s weapons to be completed? Less than three weeks.
What was the genesis of the Iraq NIE? According to the July 9 report, it was requested between September 9-17 by four members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence— Richard Durbin (D-Ill.), Bob Graham (D-Fla.), Diane Feinstein (D-Cal.), and Carl Levin (D-Mich.). By the morning of September 12, the NIO for strategic and nuclear programs had received official guidance from the DCI to begin work, according to the Senate report.
Who directed the project? Responsibility was divided among four NIOs: the NIO for strategic and nuclear programs, the NIO for conventional military issues, the NIO for science and technology, and the NIO for Near East/South Asia, the Senate report states. Between them, these NIOs “had over 100 years’ collective work experience on weapons of mass destruction issues,” according to Stuart A. Cohen, acting chairman of the National Intelligence Council in October 2002.”
This was acquired from the Internet! If you have issues with that see Rabbit Pellet. He has a armadillo that needs servicing by a librul!
Checking back in my WA Post archives I found this JDB:
“Legal experts say that President Bush had the unquestionable authority to approve the disclosure of secret CIA information to reporters, but they add that the leak was highly unusual and amounted to using sensitive intelligence data for political gain.”
Also: “Experts said the power to classify and declassify documents in the federal government flows from the president and is often delegated down the chain of command. In March 2003, Bush signed an executive order delegating declassification authority to Cheney.
Libby understood that only he, Bush and Cheney knew of the declassification when Libby held his first conversation with a reporter in July 2003, the court papers show.”
So the declassification occurred before he met with reporters and the July 18, 2003 public unveiling was for the other reporters. Golly JDB, I missed this one!!! So dp you JDB disagree with the WaPo and their take on this?
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Sorry JDB here is the WaPo link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01806.html
Some librul said JDB spanked me. Yeah, right. I missed my dates at 1:00 in the morning. I was tired. I wasn’t in my best form. Now with some sleep and archived URLs, JDB has some stuff to read!
JCH @ 63
The thought of you being permitted to serve in the military is quite troubling, and would indicate how vulnerable this nation is. Your obsessive-compulsive disorder, obvious to any first year psychology student, should have kept you out of the service. By the way, I could give a rat’s ass whether someone has served in the military.
Commentby proud leftist— 4/13/06@ 3:34 pm Leftist……..Yeah, right. What a pussy thing to say. You are inferior to the newest recruit. Let others do the hard lifting while you stay behind and bitch and whine with Goldysteinburg.]
JDB: Did you read this in the new pleading: “To the extent that the CIA’s documents suggest the Department of Justice hesitated to begin its investigation of the disclosure of Ms. Wilson’s identity and that hesitancy was related to the Department of Justice’s uncertainty that any crime had been committed based on the information provided by the CIA, the defense should have the opportunity to use such information to prepare to cross-examine CIA witnesses at trial.”
or this: “The government surely cannot, on the one hand, contend that Mr. Libby knew he had revealed classified information (and thus felt in jeopardy of being fired) and on the other hand withhold from the defense information that would tend to prove her employment status was not classified and that others who knew of that employment had the same understanding.”
How the judge decides this issue will be pressing. If Fitzgerald is hiding something, he case could blow apart. Chronology is everything.
oops… his case could …
JCH pays as little tax as possible to show his immense patriotism while illegal immigrants PAY HIS FUCKING SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK and of course, get nothing.
It should surprise nobody if he was in the military. He’s probably been on the government tit most of his life.
Oh, and just so everybody realizes it, JCH keeps calling Goldy “Goldysteinburg” because making fun of Jewish names is funny.
No really it is funny.
See, because Goldy is a Jew and that’s funny.
Okay, maybe you have to be a Nazi cunt to get the joke.
Hello Donnageddon:
May I suggest for your evening soiree into the Internet:
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....100727.asp
But don’t take his word for it. ABC has some, the Army has some, and other locations have some. RUFUS referred to these and others and ASSes poo-poo’d it. Good for you all.
It’s from Saddam’s own son and his top men, their own words. But the Senate Report said… keep that line going as these documents get translated!!!!!
This is just the tip of the iceberg Donnageddon. Many righty operatives are busy translating many of these documents. If I knew Arabic I’d do it for free from my hotel rooms. Just wait. Just wait. Ha HA hA ha!
I guess JDB is busy scouring the Internet for a response. I admit I wasn’t on my game earlier this week. This was a tough nut to crack this week in the east coast, but successful again!!And JDB, aka always mr. right, I’m back!!!!! Going to bed now as I have to get stuff finished so I can get home by 7:30 PM tomorrow!
This is just the tip of the iceberg Donnageddon. Many righty operatives are busy translating many of these documents. If I knew Arabic I’d do it for free from my hotel rooms. Just wait. Just wait. Ha HA hA ha!
Commentby Puddybud – GEORGE BUSH IS PRESIDENT!— 4/13/06@ 8:29 pm
Puddybud I have heard about these documents also and it sure been long in translating. When it is a done there should be many suprises for are far left friends.
Gosh Puddy, you have me feeling sorry for you. You are trying so hard, and yet are so wrong. You need to focus and read everything you are posting so you don’t make these kind of mistakes. And I’m sure you are very tired given all the depressing news you have to endure.
First of all, this document: http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports.....002.htm#01
That you post is the NIE ordered by the Senators you list. Nor an executive document.
This document: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.....q-wmd.html
is the Presidential NIE, the one that Bush told Libby to leak. This is the one made public in the off the record White House press briefing that you linked to before here: http://www.fas.org/irp/news/2003/07/wh071803.html
If you read through the FAS transcript, you will see that the briefing tracks the second document, but not the first.
However, it was an easy mistake to make. Both were issued in October of 2002, and (given that they are produced by the same people), they mostly track.
Further, in the new conference about the Congressional NIE, it hadn’t been declassified. The contents are classified, the fact that they exist is not.
Which brings up a point where you keep making a mistake. No one is saying that what Bush did was illegal, per se. The president can release information. But what does it say when you release selective sections of the NIE to select friendly reporters and you have yourself sourced as a “Former Hill Staffer” when in fact you are the VP’s chief-of-staff? Why the misdirection? Why don’t you tell the Director of Intelligence that you have declassified it (normal procedure that is never ignored)? Why do you continue to go through the proper procedure of declassifying those parts for release a few months after you start leaking?
Even better, why do you come out and say that anyone who leaked will be punished when you know damn well who leaked? Why don’t you come out and say that you declassified the document and stop all this talk? Why all the secrecy if what you were doing was only trying to set the records straight (which you didn’t, because you only released the sections that backed you).
Do you see the problem? Illegal, probably not (although there is an argument that the President can’t act arbitrarily and capriciously, he can’t just do something because of a whim, he has to follow the proper procedures and hold himself to the same standard as he would hold anyone else in his administration). Immoral and hypocritical? Damn straight. Joe Wilson started the process of pulling away the curtain and showing the truth that the White House and President Bush ignored any information that was contrary to their goal; a war in Iraq. They were going to do what it took to take Joe Wilson out.
You are right that Fitzgerald has not said that Libby leaked Valerie Wilson’s name, but this case is not about that. It is also just the beginning of the process, you shouldn’t hold your breath yet, there is a lot more to come. This case is going like one would expect. Neither Bush nor Libby want this to go to trial, and it is revelations like the last few that has them shaking in their boots. Where this will become interesting is if Libby thinks he is going away, or gets convicted.
Nice try Puddy, but nothing you post changes anything. Bush still is leaker-in-chief and we still know that the White House wanted to take Joe Wilson out and was willing to risk national security to do so. That is what the story and all our posts are about.
Now get some sleep. You need it after being truth-slapped so badly.
JDB – Part 1: You are precious. My tiredness is due to a tough case here in Maryland, cracked and solved by Puddy yesterday afternoon! The taste of sweeeeeeeeet success is $$$$$$$ in my pocket.
Regarding the NIE, the CIA document is part of the Presidential NIE you reference to in that document. I used goverment sources to deliver my NIE information. You use some left wing kook site to “try” and smear me. Goodness JDB you are really reaching.
All I said was CIA this document was ordered by the four mouthpieces and discussed in the press briefing by Ari Fleischer and reporters five times on October 9th, 2002 as either the National Intelligence Estimate or National Intelligence Estimate for Iraq and once as the NIE.
There is no other CIA document created, prepared or delivered in that timeframe. You are the one so dense that you can’t see the final NIE in the one released to the public July 18. But it looks like in court documents it was declassified before Libby met with reporters and the public unveiling July 18th, 2003 per the WaPo. You skipped that too.
Now that you are bitch-slapped while you slept, I realize your checking on the CIA NIE was a tough one. There was no other CIA document delivered to the president for his full 90 page NIE. The CIA document was part of the 90 pages. DOH!
Other contributors to the NIE were:
The Army, Navy, Air Force (http://aia.lackland.af.mil/), and Marine Corpsintelligence organizations; they collect and process intelligence relevant to their particular services.
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) collects and analyzes foreign intelligence on national security topics.
Coast Guard Intelligence deals with information related to U.S. maritime borders and homeland security.
The Defense Intelligence Agency provides military intelligence to commanders, policy-makers, and force planners.
The Department of Energy performs analyses of foreign nuclear weapons, nuclear nonproliferation, and energy security-related intelligence issues.
The Department of Homeland Security is charged with preventing terrorist attacks within the United States, reducing American vulnerability to terrorism, and minimizing the damage from attacks that do occur.
The Department of State Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) collects information affecting U.S. foreign policy.
The Department of the Treasury collects and processes information that may affect U.S. fiscal and monetary policy.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation deals with counterespionage and data about international criminal cases.
The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency provides imagery and other data, generally in the form of maps, to describe and depict the Earth’s physical features. Formerly called the National Imagery and Mapping Agency.
The National Reconnaissance Office coordinates the collection and analysis of airplane and satellite reconnaissance information gathered by the military services and CIA.
The National Security Agency collects and processes foreign signals intelligence information, such as telephone communications, and protects critical U.S. information security systems.
JDB – Part 2: Your comment “Neither Bush nor Libby want this to go to trial, and it is revelations like the last few that has them shaking in their boots.” is soooooo funny Libby is asking for CIA documentation that Valerie Plame was covert during the June/July timeframe in 2003. If she wasn’t covert when Libby “leaked her name”, thenLibby didn’t lie. His name is cleared and he get all court costs paid by the US government! Are you daft man?
Puddy:
No, you are wrong, as usual. Libby is not in trouble for releasing Valerie Wilson’s name (at least not yet). He is in trouble for lying to the investigators. Whether or not Valerie Wilson was NOC at the time does not matter. It is Libby’s cover up of the White House attempts to attack Joe Wilson that he is being prosecuted for.
PuddyBud @ 81 “Some librul said JDB spanked me. Yeah, right. I missed my dates at 1:00 in the morning. I was tired. I wasn’t in my best form. Now with some sleep and archived URLs, JDB has some stuff to read!”
Yeah! PuddyBud! Show us all about how Bush leaked sensitive and classified documents regarding Iraq, and then later declassified it!!!
Tell us more about all you know concerning Bush’s TREASON!!!
That is all the information we need, PuddyBud! Bush is a TRAITOR and you helped prove it!!
PuddyBud, I am wondering.. do you think they will telivise Bush’s hanging for treason?
Will it be on pay-per-view?
I. “Scooter” Libby is not going to go down for perjury and obstruction of justice alone!
Libby is a Neocon! He has no honor, and he is going to bring BushCo down with him!!
(or just threaten it, until he gets a pardon)
Neocon = Dishonerable Criminal