In fiscal year 2008, Washington ranked 45th among the states in state and local government K-12 education spending per $1,000 of personal income. (Source: WA OFM)
In fiscal year 2008, Washington ranked 14th among the 50 states in state and local government corrections expenditures per $1,000 of personal income. (Source: WA OFM)
Looks like we’re well on our way to becoming a Mississippi.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
The Senate today passed a compromise bill that provides medical care to 9/11 volunteers who became sick from working at the WTC site (you do remember the Bush administration suppressed an EPA report outlining the toxic-air dangers there, don’t you?) after Democrats agreed to strip $2 billion from the bill to satisfy Republicans who don’t want to spend public money to help these heroes.
Republican bastards. Why would anyone vote for them? (And you do remember, don’t you, that the Bush administration and GOP congress tried to strip combat pay from our soldiers in Iraq?)
Zotz sez: The microchip in Klynical's ass was transmitting 6... 6... 6...spews:
Great graphs. Link?
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Mespews:
And why do democrats such as Roger Rabbit insist on continually going into more debt?? His comment “Republican bastards. Why would anyone vote for them?” only shows a total lack of education!!
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Chrisspews:
Do you have a similar graph that compares per pupil spending in absolute dollars?
I’ve added links to the images. Just click on them to go to the appropriate OFM page.
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Stevespews:
@9 Just a suggestion here, Puddy, but maybe if you bothered to compare the data with all fifty states you’d have an actual fucking point to make.
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Blue Johnspews:
Incarceration good. Schools Bad.
And you conservatives talk the dems in legislate don’t have your priorities straight.
So when we keep screaming we need to pay more for school, now you know why?
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Tea Party candidate Joe Miller has lost his bid to have Alaska’s senatorial election overturned by state courts. The Alaska Supreme Court essentially ruled today that Miller’s arguments lack merit.
Miller, the official GOP nominee, was defeated by incumbent Lisa Murkowski, who mounted a write-in campaign after losing to Miller in the GOP primary.
What’s striking about this is the basis of Miller’s arguments for overturning an election that Murkowski clearly won. Miller argued for what the court called a “perfection” standard, meaning ballots with slight imperfections, such as misspellings of Murkowski’s name or failure to fill in the oval next to Murkowski’s name, wouldn’t be counted.
This has echoes of the 2000 Florida recount, where Republicans argued “hanging chads” and other minor ballot imperfections that don’t obscure voter intent should disqualify those ballots.
Republicans are all about disenfranchising as many voters are possible. They figure the fewer people are allowed to vote, the better their chances are. Not exactly a resounding affirmation of their confidence in their popular appeal, is it?
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Washington, like most (if not all) states, has a law requiring election officials to count ballots according to voter intent, not the ability of voters to fill in an oval perfectly or spell a candidate’s name perfectly. The general rule is that if you can determine who a voter voted for, you count that vote, and technical errors such as incompletely filled in ovals, smudges or tears, or misspellings do not invalidate an otherwise valid ballot. Republicans who insist on voters filling in ballots perfectly, or losing their right to vote, aren’t just narrow-minded. They’re undemocratic. If they get their way, the next step will be disqualifying voters because their skin color isn’t perfectly white.
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Zotz sez: The microchip in Klynical's ass was transmitting 6... 6... 6...spews:
@10, Goldy: Thanks! It is a trove!
Why isn’t the Gov or her surrogates burning these into as many retinae as possible?
BTW: Have you checked your email lately? The West Sound Boyz are trying to get with Rujax! and Lib Sci.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@9 Or maybe we just have a lot of Republican child-rapers.
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Zotz sez: The microchip in Klynical's ass was transmitting 6... 6... 6...spews:
@Goldy: How did you find these?
I went to the Home Page to figure out what I missed looking for these previously and there is no apparent path to “Research and Data” that I can see.
WTF!?: It’s great data at OFM that can’t be found from the OFM homepage — when the Gov needs all the help on messaging she can get? I just don’t get it.
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Blue Johnspews:
@16. That’s uncalled for. Doesn’t add to the discussion and just makes you look low class. Leave that to puddy to be a raving freak.
How about this for voting disenfranchisement? Tea Party Nation President Doesn’t Deny He Thinks Restricting Voting To Property Owners Is A ‘Wise Idea’ owners http://thinkprogress.org/2010/.....ny-thinks/
According to this Tea Party leader, if you rent your house or apartment, then you should not have the right to vote. In his worldview, you simply do not count as much as the homeowners next door. Presumably, if you once owned your house, but lost it in bankruptcy or foreclosure, well then you will probably lose the right to vote as well.
Puddybud identifying rujax liberal scientist deathfrog and zotz as fools!spews:
Just a suggestion here, Puddy, but maybe if you bothered to compare the data with all fifty states you’d have an actual fucking point to make.
The graphs are delivered by Goldy Stupid Solution Steve. Puddy acting like most leftist here and responding to Goldy’s graphs.
Stay Stupid Stupid Solution Steve. You don’t need to work on it anymore. You have the stupid down perfectly!
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headless lucyspews:
re 19: The stoopider we become, the more likely it is that we’ll vote Republican.
You should be thrilled.
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Mespews:
Republicans are all about disenfranchising as many voters are possible. They figure the fewer people are allowed to vote, the better their chances are. Not exactly a resounding affirmation of their confidence in their popular appeal, is it?
And Roger Rabbit is wrong again!
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Deathfroggspews:
@ 21
Thats what the prisons are for. Thats why drug interdiction is concentrated in minority communities, and minorities are more likely to be convicted of felonies for the same level of possession by several orders of magnitude.
Conservatives prefer building prisons over schools. Aside from the obvious political reasons, the business can be highly lucrative. Schools cannot be “monetized” the way prisons can. For one thing, it is illegal for students to be required to produce anything for profit, whereas prisoners can be.
This data is wrong. I’d like to talk to the person who compiled this (it couldn’t be anyone at OFM, they’d know better). I used OFM’s raw data and came up with a very different answer…
If memory serves I came up with 23rd or something in spending per 1,000.
In any case, highly skeptical funding levels are what we should be concerned with. Throwing money at education seems to decrease results, not increase them. Money is correlated with achievement only in the sense that higher property values = higher achievement, and higher property values typically mean more funding. However, if you look at the data and eliminate that variable, the difference falls away and you are left with places like D.C. which have over double (non-capital inclusive) funding per 1,000 but far worse results than WA.
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rhp6033spews:
5. Me spews:
And why do democrats such as Roger Rabbit insist on continually going into more debt?? His comment “Republican bastards. Why would anyone vote for them?” only shows a total lack of education!!
Or it shows your complete ignorance of the fact that Roger Rabbit’s education (and reasoning ability) far exceed your own. It’s long been known here that R. Rabbit is a retired attorney, which means he earned both a 4-year undergraduate degree (that means a college degree, in case you weren’t clear on that point), PLUS a three-year law school degree.
The degree awarded by a law school is known as a Juris Doctorate (“J.D.”), which recognizes that it is the equivilent of a doctorate (Ph.D.) in any other discipline.
And for your further edification, Democrats haven’t incurred budget deficits and high national debt for a very long time. What they have done, since Ronald Reagan took office in 1980, is pay the bills incurred by short-sighted or greedy Republican economic policies.
It’s like inheriting a business from your father, but being forced to include your brother in the business as an equal partner, with each of you taking the helm every four years. Your brother is an irresponsible sort, spending far more money than he brings in, wasting time at the country club or the golf courses, hiring incompetent friends into the business and giving lavish gifts and parties for his rich buddies. When it’s your turn to take over the helm of the business, it takes your entire term to restore the business to profitability and fix the problems created by your brother.
In the meantime your brother is constantly complaining to the other family members that that things were better when he was in charge, that you don’t know what you are doing, and blaming the accumulated debt on you, even though he incurred it and you are just trying to fix the problems and eventually pay down the debt.
That’s pretty much what it’s been like for the past thirty years – Republicans screwing things up, Democrats fixing the problems, and Republicans trying to transfer blame away from themselves and onto the Democrats.
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Rujax!spews:
24. Rybo spews:
This data is wrong. I’d like to talk to the person who compiled this (it couldn’t be anyone at OFM, they’d know better). I used OFM’s raw data and came up with a very different answer…
If memory serves I came up with 23rd or something in spending per 1,000.
In any case, highly skeptical funding levels are what we should be concerned with. Throwing money at education seems to decrease results, not increase them. Money is correlated with achievement only in the sense that higher property values = higher achievement, and higher property values typically mean more funding. However, if you look at the data and eliminate that variable, the difference falls away and you are left with places like D.C. which have over double (non-capital inclusive) funding per 1,000 but far worse results than WA.
12/23/2010 at 7:15 am
Well this datat is wrong because “I think it’s wrong.”
Seniority based layoffs is DAMAGING TO THE CHILDREN. Why does the Washington Education Association hate children and want to punish them?
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Chris Mitchellspews:
For all of your ‘constitutionalists’ here in WA:
WA Constitution:Article IX, Section 1:
It is the paramount duty of the state to make ample provision for the education of all children residing within its borders, without distinction or preference on account of race, color, caste, or sex.
Seniority based layoffs is DAMAGING TO THE CHILDREN. Why does the Washington Education Association hate children and want to punish them?
12/23/2010 at 8:25 am
Hmmmmm…
Fox News, Rasmusen, Seattle Times, Chris Chantrill…
This bozo’s sources have credibility problems…bias too.
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Blue Johnspews:
Seniority based layoffs is DAMAGING TO THE CHILDREN. Why does the Washington Education Association hate children and want to punish them?
Yeah, those older and experienced teachers get paid more.
Fire them. Dump them. Scrap them. Why pay any teacher above minimum wage. In fact, get rid of minimum wage.
I hope you get old some day and experience what you advocate. I really do. I will very much enjoy seeing you in the bread line. I will be able to tell because you will be the guy shouting that it’s all the progressives fault.
Go fuck up your state and leave ours alone.
Your state is doing well, so go work on bringing it down, not our.
The sad truth is that WASTATE is pretty normal in a declining system. What I say at TA is also true for K-12. To be blunt, we njeed to be better than the national muddle.
Where we are ABNORMAL is the nature of our economy. Our competitors are not Mississippi, Oregon, Nigeria, or Michigan .. our competitors are Canada, China, Massachusetts, India. We are AN EXPORTER. We export hi tech, airplanes, wheat and apples. We are the home to hugely successful WORLD enterprises, Amazon, Starbacks, ATT, that depend on our education system.
If we throw in our lot with the great American middle, guess where WASTATE ends up?
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@18 “@16. That’s uncalled for. Doesn’t add to the discussion and just makes you look low class. Leave that to puddy to be a raving freak.”
You must be new here. I’m a propagandist, and I stoop to their level. You can’t be nice to shit flingers. When they stop, I’ll stop. Until then, this is MAD in practice.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
We have some new trolls (and friendlies) here, so it’s probably not a bad idea to post the HA Ad Hoc Posting Rules again. As the unofficial HA greeter, it’s my duty to bring these ground rules to your attention.
1. This is a liberal blog.
2. Anyone can post here, except JCH.
3. There is no censorship.
4. As liberals, our mission is to verbally kick the unholy living shit out of wingnut traitors.
5. No mercy for wingnuts!
6. Our terms are unconditional surrender; there will be trials.
7. Klake is a nazi.
Any questions?
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@21 “And Roger Rabbit is wrong again!”
Really?
“The Republican National Committee has a special offer for African-American soldiers: Go to Baghdad, lose your vote.
“A confidential campaign directed by GOP party chiefs in October 2004 sought to challenge the ballots of tens of thousands of voters in the last presidential election, virtually all of them cast by residents of Black-majority precincts.
“Files from the secret vote-blocking campaign were obtained by BBC Television Newsnight, London. They were attached to emails accidentally sent by Republican operatives to a non-party website.
“One group of voters wrongly identified by the Republicans as registering to vote from false addresses: servicemen and women sent overseas.
“Here’s how the scheme worked: The RNC mailed these voters letters in envelopes marked, ‘Do not forward’, to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as ‘undeliverable.’ The lists of soldiers of ‘undeliverable’ letters were transmitted from state headquarters … to the RNC in Washington. The party could then challenge the voters’ registration and thereby prevent their absentee ballots being counted.
“One target list was comprised exclusively of voters registered at the Jacksonville, Florida, Naval Air Station. … [See this scrub sheet at http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g.....038;size=o ] …
“A soldier returning home in time to vote in November 2004 could also be challenged on the basis of the returned envelope. Soldiers challenged would be required to vote by ‘provisional’ ballot. Over one million provisional ballots cast in the 2004 race were never counted; over half a million absentee ballots were also rejected. The extraordinary rise in the number of rejected ballots was the result of the widespread multi-state voter challenge campaign by the Republican Party. …
“The BBC obtained several dozen confidential emails sent by the Republican’s national Research Director and Deputy Communications chief, Tim Griffin to GOP Florida campaign chairman Brett Doster and other party leaders. Attached were spreadsheets marked, ‘Caging.xls.’ Each of these contained several hundred to a few thousand voters and their addresses. A check of the demographics of the addresses on the ‘caging lists,’ as the GOP leaders called them indicated that most were in African-American majority zip codes.
“Ion Sanco, the non-partisan elections supervisor of Leon County (Tallahassee) when shown the lists by this reporter said: ‘The only thing I can think of – African American voters listed like this – these might be individuals that will be challenged if they attempted to vote on Election Day.’ …
“The Republican National Committee in Washington refused our several requests to respond to the BBC discovery. … The party has refused to say why it would mark soldiers as having ‘bad addresses’ subject to challenge when they had been assigned abroad. … Setting up such a challenge list would be a crime under federal law. … While the party insisted the lists were not created for the purpose to challenge Black voters, the GOP ultimately offered no other explanation for the mailings. …
“Soldiers sending in their ballot from abroad would not know their vote was lost because of a challenge.”
__________________________________
“For the full story of caging lists and voter purges of 2004, plus the documents, read Greg Palast’s … bestseller, ARMED MADHOUSE: Who’s Afraid of Osama Wolf?, Armed Madhouse: Who’s Afraid of Osama Wolf?, China Floats Bush Sinks, the Scheme to Steal ‘08, No Child’s Behind Left and other Dispatches from the Front Lines of the Class War.”
The dollar is incredibly vulnerable.
So is the Stock Market.
Geithner is deny, deny, denying he will devalue the dollar which means he is about to do it…which will be the worst thing possible.
You KLOWNS are stuck in what’s called a Normalcy Bias. It causes intelligent people to underestimate the potential for a disaster and it’s consequences. You don’t think things can possibly get that bad for the simple reason that you’ve never experienced it. It’s a form of denial.
We have 42 million Americans on Food Stamps. 13% of our population. That number has grown 17-1/2% in just the last year.
We also will soon have the highest Corporate Tax Rate and most costly, onerous regulatory system in the world. You KLOWNS call it Progressivism. I call it a recipe for for financial meltdown.
The number 1 thing you can do is have a safe place to go when the meltdown happens. That’s why we moved to a rural area and are self-sustaining. Laugh at your own peril. The writing is on the wall.
Obama couldn’t balance the current Budget even if we were all taxed at 100%.
Plus 46 states, including Washington, are in desperate straights.
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Stevespews:
@35 “It’s a form of denial.”
You project too much. It’s a Psych 101 thing. You might want to check into it.
By the way, the brown horde is coming for you. Apparently they want your gold. I just thought you should know.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Looks like we’re well on our way to becoming a Mississippi.
Roger Rabbit spews:
The Senate today passed a compromise bill that provides medical care to 9/11 volunteers who became sick from working at the WTC site (you do remember the Bush administration suppressed an EPA report outlining the toxic-air dangers there, don’t you?) after Democrats agreed to strip $2 billion from the bill to satisfy Republicans who don’t want to spend public money to help these heroes.
Republican bastards. Why would anyone vote for them? (And you do remember, don’t you, that the Bush administration and GOP congress tried to strip combat pay from our soldiers in Iraq?)
Don Joe spews:
@1
Well, then, let’s start forming Citizens’ Councils.
Zotz sez: The microchip in Klynical's ass was transmitting 6... 6... 6... spews:
Great graphs. Link?
Me spews:
And why do democrats such as Roger Rabbit insist on continually going into more debt?? His comment “Republican bastards. Why would anyone vote for them?” only shows a total lack of education!!
Chris spews:
Do you have a similar graph that compares per pupil spending in absolute dollars?
SJ spews:
Link please. I looked at the office of fincial management but it was not there.
K spews:
Why of course, Me, Bush with his Republican majorities rolled up quite a bit of debt, didn’t they?
Puddybud identifying rujax liberal scientist deathfrog and zotz as fools! spews:
Looks like good old blue WA State spends much on criminal incarceration. Must be something in the water.
Goldy spews:
I’ve added links to the images. Just click on them to go to the appropriate OFM page.
Steve spews:
@9 Just a suggestion here, Puddy, but maybe if you bothered to compare the data with all fifty states you’d have an actual fucking point to make.
Blue John spews:
Incarceration good. Schools Bad.
And you conservatives talk the dems in legislate don’t have your priorities straight.
So when we keep screaming we need to pay more for school, now you know why?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Tea Party candidate Joe Miller has lost his bid to have Alaska’s senatorial election overturned by state courts. The Alaska Supreme Court essentially ruled today that Miller’s arguments lack merit.
Miller, the official GOP nominee, was defeated by incumbent Lisa Murkowski, who mounted a write-in campaign after losing to Miller in the GOP primary.
What’s striking about this is the basis of Miller’s arguments for overturning an election that Murkowski clearly won. Miller argued for what the court called a “perfection” standard, meaning ballots with slight imperfections, such as misspellings of Murkowski’s name or failure to fill in the oval next to Murkowski’s name, wouldn’t be counted.
This has echoes of the 2000 Florida recount, where Republicans argued “hanging chads” and other minor ballot imperfections that don’t obscure voter intent should disqualify those ballots.
Republicans are all about disenfranchising as many voters are possible. They figure the fewer people are allowed to vote, the better their chances are. Not exactly a resounding affirmation of their confidence in their popular appeal, is it?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Washington, like most (if not all) states, has a law requiring election officials to count ballots according to voter intent, not the ability of voters to fill in an oval perfectly or spell a candidate’s name perfectly. The general rule is that if you can determine who a voter voted for, you count that vote, and technical errors such as incompletely filled in ovals, smudges or tears, or misspellings do not invalidate an otherwise valid ballot. Republicans who insist on voters filling in ballots perfectly, or losing their right to vote, aren’t just narrow-minded. They’re undemocratic. If they get their way, the next step will be disqualifying voters because their skin color isn’t perfectly white.
Zotz sez: The microchip in Klynical's ass was transmitting 6... 6... 6... spews:
@10, Goldy: Thanks! It is a trove!
Why isn’t the Gov or her surrogates burning these into as many retinae as possible?
BTW: Have you checked your email lately? The West Sound Boyz are trying to get with Rujax! and Lib Sci.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@9 Or maybe we just have a lot of Republican child-rapers.
Zotz sez: The microchip in Klynical's ass was transmitting 6... 6... 6... spews:
@Goldy: How did you find these?
I went to the Home Page to figure out what I missed looking for these previously and there is no apparent path to “Research and Data” that I can see.
WTF!?: It’s great data at OFM that can’t be found from the OFM homepage — when the Gov needs all the help on messaging she can get? I just don’t get it.
Blue John spews:
@16. That’s uncalled for. Doesn’t add to the discussion and just makes you look low class. Leave that to puddy to be a raving freak.
How about this for voting disenfranchisement?
Tea Party Nation President Doesn’t Deny He Thinks Restricting Voting To Property Owners Is A ‘Wise Idea’ owners
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/.....ny-thinks/
http://teapartynationalism.com.....Itemid=104
Puddybud identifying rujax liberal scientist deathfrog and zotz as fools! spews:
The graphs are delivered by Goldy Stupid Solution Steve. Puddy acting like most leftist here and responding to Goldy’s graphs.
Stay Stupid Stupid Solution Steve. You don’t need to work on it anymore. You have the stupid down perfectly!
headless lucy spews:
re 19: The stoopider we become, the more likely it is that we’ll vote Republican.
You should be thrilled.
Me spews:
Republicans are all about disenfranchising as many voters are possible. They figure the fewer people are allowed to vote, the better their chances are. Not exactly a resounding affirmation of their confidence in their popular appeal, is it?
And Roger Rabbit is wrong again!
Deathfrogg spews:
@ 21
Thats what the prisons are for. Thats why drug interdiction is concentrated in minority communities, and minorities are more likely to be convicted of felonies for the same level of possession by several orders of magnitude.
Conservatives prefer building prisons over schools. Aside from the obvious political reasons, the business can be highly lucrative. Schools cannot be “monetized” the way prisons can. For one thing, it is illegal for students to be required to produce anything for profit, whereas prisoners can be.
Liberal Scientist spews:
Happy Fesitvus everybody!!
Rybo spews:
This data is wrong. I’d like to talk to the person who compiled this (it couldn’t be anyone at OFM, they’d know better). I used OFM’s raw data and came up with a very different answer…
If memory serves I came up with 23rd or something in spending per 1,000.
In any case, highly skeptical funding levels are what we should be concerned with. Throwing money at education seems to decrease results, not increase them. Money is correlated with achievement only in the sense that higher property values = higher achievement, and higher property values typically mean more funding. However, if you look at the data and eliminate that variable, the difference falls away and you are left with places like D.C. which have over double (non-capital inclusive) funding per 1,000 but far worse results than WA.
rhp6033 spews:
Or it shows your complete ignorance of the fact that Roger Rabbit’s education (and reasoning ability) far exceed your own. It’s long been known here that R. Rabbit is a retired attorney, which means he earned both a 4-year undergraduate degree (that means a college degree, in case you weren’t clear on that point), PLUS a three-year law school degree.
The degree awarded by a law school is known as a Juris Doctorate (“J.D.”), which recognizes that it is the equivilent of a doctorate (Ph.D.) in any other discipline.
And for your further edification, Democrats haven’t incurred budget deficits and high national debt for a very long time. What they have done, since Ronald Reagan took office in 1980, is pay the bills incurred by short-sighted or greedy Republican economic policies.
It’s like inheriting a business from your father, but being forced to include your brother in the business as an equal partner, with each of you taking the helm every four years. Your brother is an irresponsible sort, spending far more money than he brings in, wasting time at the country club or the golf courses, hiring incompetent friends into the business and giving lavish gifts and parties for his rich buddies. When it’s your turn to take over the helm of the business, it takes your entire term to restore the business to profitability and fix the problems created by your brother.
In the meantime your brother is constantly complaining to the other family members that that things were better when he was in charge, that you don’t know what you are doing, and blaming the accumulated debt on you, even though he incurred it and you are just trying to fix the problems and eventually pay down the debt.
That’s pretty much what it’s been like for the past thirty years – Republicans screwing things up, Democrats fixing the problems, and Republicans trying to transfer blame away from themselves and onto the Democrats.
Rujax! spews:
Well this datat is wrong because “I think it’s wrong.”
Really.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Goldy–
YAWN!
Here is a study that gets to the nuts of Teacher Layoffs based on Seniority.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....yoffs.html
Seniority based layoffs is DAMAGING TO THE CHILDREN. Why does the Washington Education Association hate children and want to punish them?
Chris Mitchell spews:
For all of your ‘constitutionalists’ here in WA:
WA Constitution:Article IX, Section 1:
It is the paramount duty of the state to make ample provision for the education of all children residing within its borders, without distinction or preference on account of race, color, caste, or sex.
Paramount duty and ample provision.
Rujax! spews:
Hmmmmm…
Fox News, Rasmusen, Seattle Times, Chris Chantrill…
This bozo’s sources have credibility problems…bias too.
Blue John spews:
Seniority based layoffs is DAMAGING TO THE CHILDREN. Why does the Washington Education Association hate children and want to punish them?
Yeah, those older and experienced teachers get paid more.
Fire them. Dump them. Scrap them. Why pay any teacher above minimum wage. In fact, get rid of minimum wage.
I hope you get old some day and experience what you advocate. I really do. I will very much enjoy seeing you in the bread line. I will be able to tell because you will be the guy shouting that it’s all the progressives fault.
Go fuck up your state and leave ours alone.
Your state is doing well, so go work on bringing it down, not our.
SJ spews:
I wrote more about how this affects the UW at THE-Ave.US this AM.
The sad truth is that WASTATE is pretty normal in a declining system. What I say at TA is also true for K-12. To be blunt, we njeed to be better than the national muddle.
Where we are ABNORMAL is the nature of our economy. Our competitors are not Mississippi, Oregon, Nigeria, or Michigan .. our competitors are Canada, China, Massachusetts, India. We are AN EXPORTER. We export hi tech, airplanes, wheat and apples. We are the home to hugely successful WORLD enterprises, Amazon, Starbacks, ATT, that depend on our education system.
If we throw in our lot with the great American middle, guess where WASTATE ends up?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@18 “@16. That’s uncalled for. Doesn’t add to the discussion and just makes you look low class. Leave that to puddy to be a raving freak.”
You must be new here. I’m a propagandist, and I stoop to their level. You can’t be nice to shit flingers. When they stop, I’ll stop. Until then, this is MAD in practice.
Roger Rabbit spews:
We have some new trolls (and friendlies) here, so it’s probably not a bad idea to post the HA Ad Hoc Posting Rules again. As the unofficial HA greeter, it’s my duty to bring these ground rules to your attention.
1. This is a liberal blog.
2. Anyone can post here, except JCH.
3. There is no censorship.
4. As liberals, our mission is to verbally kick the unholy living shit out of wingnut traitors.
5. No mercy for wingnuts!
6. Our terms are unconditional surrender; there will be trials.
7. Klake is a nazi.
Any questions?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@21 “And Roger Rabbit is wrong again!”
Really?
“The Republican National Committee has a special offer for African-American soldiers: Go to Baghdad, lose your vote.
“A confidential campaign directed by GOP party chiefs in October 2004 sought to challenge the ballots of tens of thousands of voters in the last presidential election, virtually all of them cast by residents of Black-majority precincts.
“Files from the secret vote-blocking campaign were obtained by BBC Television Newsnight, London. They were attached to emails accidentally sent by Republican operatives to a non-party website.
“One group of voters wrongly identified by the Republicans as registering to vote from false addresses: servicemen and women sent overseas.
“Here’s how the scheme worked: The RNC mailed these voters letters in envelopes marked, ‘Do not forward’, to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as ‘undeliverable.’ The lists of soldiers of ‘undeliverable’ letters were transmitted from state headquarters … to the RNC in Washington. The party could then challenge the voters’ registration and thereby prevent their absentee ballots being counted.
“One target list was comprised exclusively of voters registered at the Jacksonville, Florida, Naval Air Station. … [See this scrub sheet at http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g.....038;size=o ] …
“A soldier returning home in time to vote in November 2004 could also be challenged on the basis of the returned envelope. Soldiers challenged would be required to vote by ‘provisional’ ballot. Over one million provisional ballots cast in the 2004 race were never counted; over half a million absentee ballots were also rejected. The extraordinary rise in the number of rejected ballots was the result of the widespread multi-state voter challenge campaign by the Republican Party. …
“The BBC obtained several dozen confidential emails sent by the Republican’s national Research Director and Deputy Communications chief, Tim Griffin to GOP Florida campaign chairman Brett Doster and other party leaders. Attached were spreadsheets marked, ‘Caging.xls.’ Each of these contained several hundred to a few thousand voters and their addresses. A check of the demographics of the addresses on the ‘caging lists,’ as the GOP leaders called them indicated that most were in African-American majority zip codes.
“Ion Sanco, the non-partisan elections supervisor of Leon County (Tallahassee) when shown the lists by this reporter said: ‘The only thing I can think of – African American voters listed like this – these might be individuals that will be challenged if they attempted to vote on Election Day.’ …
“The Republican National Committee in Washington refused our several requests to respond to the BBC discovery. … The party has refused to say why it would mark soldiers as having ‘bad addresses’ subject to challenge when they had been assigned abroad. … Setting up such a challenge list would be a crime under federal law. … While the party insisted the lists were not created for the purpose to challenge Black voters, the GOP ultimately offered no other explanation for the mailings. …
“Soldiers sending in their ballot from abroad would not know their vote was lost because of a challenge.”
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“For the full story of caging lists and voter purges of 2004, plus the documents, read Greg Palast’s … bestseller, ARMED MADHOUSE: Who’s Afraid of Osama Wolf?, Armed Madhouse: Who’s Afraid of Osama Wolf?, China Floats Bush Sinks, the Scheme to Steal ‘08, No Child’s Behind Left and other Dispatches from the Front Lines of the Class War.”
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Mr. Cynical spews:
Take a listen to this about our Economic Crisis and the future of the dollar as the World’s Currency
http://www.stansberryresearch......PSILC66/PR
Rabbit told me I was stupid to invest in Gold & Silver.
Take a look at what has happened this decade and in recent years..
http://www.monex.com/prods/gold_chart.html
The dollar is incredibly vulnerable.
So is the Stock Market.
Geithner is deny, deny, denying he will devalue the dollar which means he is about to do it…which will be the worst thing possible.
You KLOWNS are stuck in what’s called a Normalcy Bias. It causes intelligent people to underestimate the potential for a disaster and it’s consequences. You don’t think things can possibly get that bad for the simple reason that you’ve never experienced it. It’s a form of denial.
We have 42 million Americans on Food Stamps. 13% of our population. That number has grown 17-1/2% in just the last year.
We also will soon have the highest Corporate Tax Rate and most costly, onerous regulatory system in the world. You KLOWNS call it Progressivism. I call it a recipe for for financial meltdown.
The number 1 thing you can do is have a safe place to go when the meltdown happens. That’s why we moved to a rural area and are self-sustaining. Laugh at your own peril. The writing is on the wall.
Obama couldn’t balance the current Budget even if we were all taxed at 100%.
Plus 46 states, including Washington, are in desperate straights.
Steve spews:
@35 “It’s a form of denial.”
You project too much. It’s a Psych 101 thing. You might want to check into it.
By the way, the brown horde is coming for you. Apparently they want your gold. I just thought you should know.
Jason Osgood spews:
Roger Rabbit @ 34
Universal voter registration fixes that problem. All citizens are registered to vote once they’re 18.
No more caging, challenges, provisional ballots.
No more voter registration drives, faux ACORN scandals.
No more dead people or duplicates in the database.
No more motor voter, election day registration, complicated administration.
If you’re 18, a citizen, and can prove where you live (to get the correct ballot), you get to vote.
USA is the only western democracy that requires registration. Everyone else saves time, money, effort, and drama with universal voter registration.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@35 Hey Klown, stock up on gold while it’s cheap at $1,380 an ounce!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@37 It’s simple, it’s fair, and it works. That’s why Republicans will never agree to it.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@38 I’m a greedy capitalist, but at least I put my money in companies that produce something. Klown’s gold hoarding doesn’t create a single job.
Mr. Cynical spews:
38. Roger Rabbit spews:
You told me not to buy it at $600, $700, $800, $900, $1000..
Methinks you is the KLOWN silly rabbit.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Rabbit @ 40–
I thought State Workers were poor?
You failed at your AMWAY Distributorship for crying out loud!
Stop the charade Rog.