The US House just passed HR 3962, the health care reform bill. A solitary Republican voted “Yea.” Roll call should be up here after a while. If you go there, you can also check out Roll 884, the Stupak Wire Coat Hanger Amendment.
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Baird did vote no on final passage of the health care bill.
wow. and it’s bipartisan.
suck it GOoPers
I think, regardless of the debate over paying for abortion, that I like the idea of barring coverage for erectile-dysfunction treatment unless the life of the patient is in jeopardy.
The Republican yea vote was Anh Joseph Cao of LA.
AF @ 3
Surely, you aren’t contending that the inability to get it up could never be life-threatening?
@3 “I like the idea of barring coverage for erectile-dysfunction treatment”
Me too! Within 30 years there would be no Republicans in this country.
Baird, Reichert, and McMorris-Rodgers voted no. Washington voters, you know what to do in 2010 … I’m just sayin’.
Baird suffers from erectile-dysfunction. Actually, his disability is even worse than that–he has no balls at all. Those of you down in the Third, is there any prospective primary challenge to Baird?
The Democrats that voted no were allowed to do that so when they go up for reelection in 2010 their ‘yes’ vote can not be used against them. The Dems in Congress have always tried to do that as they got hit up back in Hillary’s Health Care bill fiasco.
I would like to thank Glenn Beck, Rush, and Sarah Palin for ensuring that we won in NY, which helped us with votes tonight!
@10
Instant Karma.
Hmmmm.. Those two votes we picked up last Tuesday came in handy.
Someone please primary those pathetic fake Dems.
@8: So Doc Hastings is chopped liver? He voted No. I see Smith came around.
That vote this past week in CA was not a gain ylb arschloch. It was safely in dem hands before the election.
And the Stupak Amendment… The biggest group that helped defeat the Republicans and bring Obama to power was women. Awfully large constituency to alienate, there.
Moron @ 14
Ellen Tauscher took that seat from a Republican fool. She was a blue dog until recently.
zzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzz…
Such a feckless fiend you are!! and total loser to boot.
@15 And where do you think pro-choice women will go? To the GOP? You are funny!
And now I’m officially a second class citizen. It is legal to force older people not yet eligible for Medicare to pay twice as much to private insurers.
proud leftist @ 8:
Baird’s had left-wing challengers down here before, but the district is a major problem; there’s the Olympia area, which is indeed filled with a fair amount of leftists, but the further south/out into the boonies you go, the more conservative it gets. The change is noticeable just driving down I5 to Centralia. Even if Baird could be given the boot, it would likely turn the district to the GOP.
Once againylb arschloch proves why he is the dumb brick he is. Puddy tries to elevate his “mind” to higher levels but being the HA arschloch has it’s advantages…
1) You are the dumbest HA Libtardo
2) You are recognized as monomaniacal
3) Peeps on your side recognize your comparisons are weak and insipid
4) You are recognized as a mental midget
5) You don’t get much support from peeps on your side
From WikiPedia – “In 2000, Tauscher was made much safer when some of the more Republican-leaning parts of her district were cut out as part of state-wide redistricting. They were replaced with more Democratic territory near Sacramento and Berkeley. She has since been re-elected for four more terms with no substantive opposition, never dropping below 65 percent of the vote since 2002.”
Stay stupid. You’ll get no arguments from Puddy there.
Pudpuller!
Superficial, facile, obfuscation (as usual). I know you have no shame, but just for the record:
Tauscher was a blue dog and a probable no vote on HCR, leaving aside her propensity to vote for civil liberties outrages like the Patriot Act.
We got a real D in Garamendi and a timely vote in favor of HCR.
We’ve got more Ds, now we’re focusing on better Ds.
You haven’t been changed yet today, have you? Cuz yellow smelly shit is leaking out and getting every where.
Btw: How’s your mom?
Zotz,
And how do you prove Tauscher was a blue dog fool? How are those low does meds working? Puddy sees they need elevated adjustment.
For the record…
She supports universal health care and, in particular, covering uninsured children through the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP).
For the record…
She also supports scaling back the estate tax, tightening bankruptcy rules, and expanding free trade.[1]
For the record…
Tauscher has received a 11% lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union, and a 95% rating for her 2008 voting record from Americans for Democratic Action.
For the record…
Tauscher is strongly pro-choice, with a 100% positive rating from NARAL.
For the record…
Tauscher against bans on late-term and partial-birth abortions.
For the record…
Tauscher supports federal funding of stem cell research, voting in favor of both Stem Cell Research Enhancement Acts.
For the record…
Tauscher is in favor of more extensive gun control.
For the record…
Tauscher is a proponent of same-sex marriage, once saying, “Marriage is a civil right.
For the record…
Tauscher, In December 2005 led a group of twenty-two other House Democrats in sending a letter to President George W. Bush urging him to withdraw U.S. troops, expressing the hope that the “Iraqi government takes increased responsibility” for its political and security needs.
For the record…
Tauscher later voted to redeploy troops out of Iraq within 90 days and even to impeach President Bush over the war.
For the record…
Sometimes Zotz you are more of a fool than ylb arschloch, and he’s scraping the bottom of the Marianas Trench, especially when you come to his “aid”.
For the record…
Another mind of HA Libtardo stupidity exploded by indisputable facts…
The Prosecution Rests Your Honor!
Zotz arschloch…
Rolls right off the fingers! So full of shit yesterday, today and most definitely tomorrow!
20. Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:
I agree that YLB is the dumbest. I’d venture to say that while the average KLOWN has an IQ somehere around BODY TEMPERATURE…YLB is hovering below ROOM TEMPERATURE!
Jon Devore LOVES Baby Killing so much, we can’t possibly fund it and encourage it enough!
If you love baby killing so much Jon, how about a baby killing rally for the Abortionists of America??
Jon DeVore’s 1st Annual Baby Killing Telethon!
You certainly would have no shortage of KLOWNS to provide entertainment…and all the Libtards can man (I use that term loosely) the phonebank.
Obama continues to do wonderful…if you are a Consewrvative.
Rasmussen, the Number 1 poll in accuracy in the recent elections…nailed the Christie margin and actually underestimated McDonnell by almost 5 points!
Sunday, November 08, 2009
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It looks like the insurance industry is getting what (who) they paid for….
http://www.namesofthedead.com
It’s all about money. To hell with all them Americans dying. Let them rot. They are all broke now anyway.
“Everything should be for profit. Unrestricted. Everything.” Ayn Rand (from hell)
I just love “conservative” thought patterns. If it doesn’t fatten some stock holders portfolio, it is a “no” vote every time.
Capitalism!
Who cares who dies or goes bankrupt. It is all about helping the “haves” isn’t it? Republicons. Remember all ya gotta do is say Jeezus a couple times and the low iq crowd will vote your way every time. Even if it kills them, and their children.
Jeezus = Loves Profit!!
Goldman Sachs CEO = “Doing God’s Work”
Yeah right buddy….
The tea baggers have a right to be angry. They are just blaming the wrong people.
We are already a communist country. Wall Street is the politburo. Your vote means as much as an Anti-Saddam Hussein vote would matter in Iraq a couple years ago. Tell me I’m wrong.
Mmmmmmmm Mmmmmmmm Mmmmmmmmm Barry Hussein O. has lost his magic touch.
Monday, November 02, 2009
There are sooooo many Conservative campaign issues for 2010 and Pelosi will be the whuppin’ gal….as will Obama and Reid.
Can you imagine if after all this, nothing substantive gets passed thru the Senate?
The Dems will likely have to use the Nuclear Option with Liebermann saying he would side with the R’s on a filibuster. Plus, there are other Dem Senators who will not vote for it…or dare not vote for it.
Do you KLOWNS really believe there will be a bill for Obama to sign BEFORE the end of the year??
Once this House Bill is vetted, you will see lots more Tea Parties.
29. All Facts Support My Positions spews:
Let’s use your Komrade YLB Arschloch as an example here. He hasn’t worked for years and doesn’t appear to be trying.
You are right, if YLB goes bankrupt I don’t care!!
Frankly I don’t care about his lazy-ass freeloading ilk 1 iota!
Why should hard working Americans pay for freeloaders like YLB?? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?
@22: google Tauscher and New Democrat Coalition, fool. Your stupidity is absolutely mind boggling. Her positions on economic justice, trade, the deficit, and spending priorities mark her as a classic blue dog. An 11% approval rating from some conservative scum should be an embarassment, not proof she is some kind of long haired Berkeley liberal.
Utter fail. The defense requests immediate dismissal, with prejudice.
@29 “I just love ‘conservative’ thought patterns. If it doesn’t fatten some stock holders portfolio, it is a ‘no’ vote every time. Capitalism! Who cares who dies or goes bankrupt. It is all about helping the ‘haves’ isn’t it? Republicons.”
Sigh. I know what you mean. Well, I say, if you can’t lick ’em, join ’em! Why should Republicons get all the money? There’s enough money to spread around — so I help myself. I figure if Republicons can get free money and favorable tax rates, so can rabbits. Free money that’s taxed at 1/3rd the rate of taxes on wages is too good a deal to pass up! In fact, I don’t see the point of working. There’s too many disincentives against working in this country. So I don’t work anymore, and now that I’m a lazy oaf who does nothing and produces nothing, I have more income and lower taxes than ever before!
@31 They shouldn’t get “free” anything. Workfare is my answer. You have to put in enough hours serving your neighborhood, city, county, state, or country to cover your premium. No workee (if you are able to work) no health care.
I also believe as Roosevelt said Every American has a RIGHT to a job.
@33 Bunny man is right. Tax capital gains the same as wages, and you can lower income taxes on wages and get the same $$$. Tax capital gains for medicare and social security also, and cut those too. Ohhhh now wait. That would help too many poor people and hurt too many “haves” now wouldn’t it.
In fact I am for a flat tax. Based on a person’s assets, not “taxable wages” crap.
@30 “Mmmmmmmm Mmmmmmmm Mmmmmmmmm Barry Hussein O. has lost his magic touch.”
Who cares? He’s going to be president for another 7 years and 2 months! That’s all that counts — your stupid Rasmussen polls are meaningless. Suck on it.
@31 “He hasn’t worked for years and doesn’t appear to be trying.”
Same here! I make no effort whatsoever to work. In fact, I go out of my way to avoid anything that remotely resembles work!
And don’t worry about YLB — he won’t go bankrupt. The only way to go bust in this country is by being working-class. The people who don’t work have way more money than workers. In fact, it seems the more money they have, the less they work.
Why should anyone work? Working makes no sense. Look at the Boeing workers in Everett making $26 an hour. Their reward? The company sends their jobs to South Carolina where people make $14 an hour — and their reward will be sending those jobs to China where people make $1 a day. The capitalists who run our economy reward workers by paying them less and less, and eventually paying them nothing at all. That’s not enough incentive to work. Not for me, anyway.
I’d rather be a capitalist who gets paid for not working or producing anything.
Huh…for some reason, our drunken pollster-watcher Mr. Cynical overlooked this Rasmussen release:
Monday, November 02, 2009
The problem for Republicans is that they spent eight years peddling fear as a way of holding onto power. They never developed a sense of vision or exhibited real leadership. Americans caught on.
Now the Republicans are reduced to being full-time obstructionists. This has stripped them of their honor (which makes it easier to simply lie).
When will Republicans start generating ideas again? When will they regain a sense of honor? Will they ever again be in a position to actually lead?
@31 (continued) Speaking of “comrades,” the real communists in our country are the Republicans, who want workers to live like people did under Stalin — all work and no pay. Like Stalinists, Republicans believe in sharing the fruits of worker’s labor with themselves.
@34 “In fact I am for a flat tax. Based on a person’s assets, not “taxable wages” crap.”
It wasn’t so long ago that Republicons were touting the “flat tax.” In fact, Steve Forbes, a very rich guy, ran for president on a flat-tax platform. Anybody remember that?
Well, now that Republicons have figured out the real potential of progressive income taxation, a flat tax is the last thing they want! Their idea now is reverse progressivity — the less you make, the more you pay!
We already have a tax system like that here in Washington, and now Republicons want to take it national by replacing income taxes with a federal sales tax.
Republicons are against a flat tax, because that would mean people who get money by inheriting or owning stuff would have to pay the same taxes as the rest of us.
Their idea of “tax reform” is for workers to pay all the taxes and owners of capital and heirs to pay none.
However, even if we enact such a tax system, they’ll still bitch about taxes they don’t have to pay.
Next to polo and yacht racing, bitching about taxes they don’t pay is their favorite sport.
@37 “stripped them of their honor”
Darryl, for once, I have to disagree with you. I’m sorry, but I must! It’s a physical and metaphysical impossibility for Republicons to be stripped of their honor — because they never had any honor to begin with.
Ralph Nader: “Tax wealth not work”
Not my idea….
Tax assets not wages. So f-ing simple. So fair. The more you have the easier it is to make more. The less it hurts when you gamble and lose. Real Capitalism!
@37 Somalia is the wingnut model, their “vision” for America. Low taxes, low wages, no regulations, and they stone sinners to death.
Over at stefan’s pathetic little blog they’re complaining about “insecure” ballot drop boxes. Not only that but one drop box even got vandalized! This must mean Dow stole the election — in Wingnuttia County it can’t mean anything else.
http://soundpolitics.com/archives/013513.html
@42 “Ralph Nader: “Tax wealth not work””
If we did you might even see Republicons get jobs and work! They’ll do anything for money. Literally anything.
It is rare for Us to have something to or someone to celebrate. I do today.
Anh Joseph Cao of LA
A man for whom morals rise above mere party.
@45 But more to the point, Republicons will do anything to avoid paying taxes! They’ll literally go to the ends of the earth to avoid taxes! The Cayman Islands, for example. Or Guam. And Switzerland! Anywhere they can shelter their income from taxes.
Well, why not make it easy for them, and create tax shelters right down the street? If capital was taxed and wages weren’t Republicons would be lining up to read the babysitter-wanted notices on Fred Meyer bulletin boards and doorbelling neighborhoods with lawnmowers and rakes in their pickups.
@46 Coincidentally, the state of Virginia is going to kill the Beltway Sniper the day after tomorrow. I think a lot of people, especially victims and their relatives, will celebrate that.
God is right. Anything to help the “lost city” right? The one Republicon that is not a pile of human feces. If only for a moment.
By the way, GOP Party Texas Gov. Rick Perry doesn’t want you to know he executed an apparently innocent man. That’s why he replaced the members of a state commission responsible for reviewing reports by experts that say the fire was an accident. But GOP Party Gov. Perry isn’t getting away with it, because his little “Saturday Night Massacre” has provoked the opposite of what he intended, namely intense media scrutiny of his actions.
You can’t trust Republicans.
@51…you cant trust politicians.
Back room deals with big pharma, abandoning the party’s stance on choice, the gutted public option; excuse me if I don’t celebrate this “victory”. The Democrats are the spouse who slips off his/her wedding ring to go bar-hopping. You can’t trust politicians (Kucinich excepted).
Slingshot. It has been 80 years. This is only the very beginning. This is why the corporate death dealers are “all in” so to speak.
Having a health care system that actually helps people stay alive, and is not just a profit center for the return demanding Vampires on Wall Street scares the heck out of Ayn Rand’s inbred greed filled capitalist zombies.
Remember government is bad. Always. Now shut up and give me your insurance $$ and if you get sick just go die quietly. We have already rescinded your policy….
I don’t understand why anyone could be unhappy with a system where we pay 50% more for health care, and have outcomes worse than many 3rd world nations.
I mean come on. You are supposed to go bankrupt when you get sick. It’s the American Way! Remember not to get sick. That’s all you have to do! Now don’t forget….
@53 Slingshot. Your are basically right. This bill really really sucks. It is only slightly better than no bill at all. I mean slightly.
It is all we could get with the “Waterloo” crowd lurking. They know how much a “good” bill that actually helped people at the expense of the death companies and Wall Street would damage their “party” of no.
It just goes to show you who runs our country. It sure isn’t your or I. (Unless of course you have a herd of lobbyists and millions to throw into campaign coffers I don’t have)
Want a good bill? Make campaign contributions a felony, and put a $1,000,000 bounty on lobbyists. Now that would be change I could believe in…..
@48 Roger
Vengeance is Mine.
Hey Stupid ASS @32
Here’s another pain to your head. Once upon a time Roger Rabbit said all one has to do is prove one point of your argument to be wrong AND IT’S WRONG……
Look at all the YES votes of the Members of the New Democrat Coalition JACKASS. And Puddy didn’t go through the whole list since the vast majority of them voted YES you stupid ASS.
ProudtobeanArschloch – rolls right off the fingertips!
Yes on 3962
Congressman Adam Smith (WA-09)
Congresswoman Melissa Bean (IL-08)
Congressman Ron Kind (WI-03)
Congressman Joseph Crowley (NY-07)
Congresswoman Allyson Schwartz (PA-13)
Congressman Michael Arcuri (NY-24)
Congresswoman Shelley Berkley (NV-01)
Congressman John Boccieri (OH-16)
Congressman Bobby Bright (AL-02)
Congresswoman Lois Capps (CA-22)
Congressman Russ Carnahan (MO-3)
Congressman Chris Carney (PA-10)
Congressman André Carson (IN-07)
Congressman Gerry Connolly (VA-11)
Congressman Joe Courtney (CT-02)
Congresswoman Susan Davis (CA-53)
Congressman Eliot Engel (NY-17)
Congressman Bob Etheridge (NC-02)
Congressman Bill Foster (IL-14)
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords(AZ-08)
Congressman Charlie Gonzalez
Congresswoman Debbie Halvorson (IL-11)
Congresswoman Jane Harman (CA-36)
Congressman Martin Heinrich (NM-01)
Congressman Brian Higgins (NY-27)
Congressman Jim Himes (CT-04)
Congressman Rush Holt (NJ-12)
Congressman Jay Inslee (WA-01)
Congressman Steve Israel (NY-02)
Congressman Ron Klein (FL-22)
Congressman Rick Larsen (WA-02)
Congressman John Larson (CT-01)
Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy (NY-04)
Congressman Dan Maffei (NY-25)
Congressman Kendrick Meek (FL-17)
Congressman Gregory Meeks (NY-06)
Congressman Harry Mitchell(AZ-05)
Congressman Dennis Moore (KS-03)
Congressman Jim Moran (VA-08)
Congressman Chris Murphy (CT-5)
Congressman Patrick Murphy (PA-8)
Isn’t that over 40 members who voted yes? What a dynamic fool!
Now what was this arschloch saying about Ellen Tauscher again?
Absolutely nuthin significant!!!!!!!! Dismissed by stupidity!!!!!!
Puddy told you HA Libtardos of the backroom deals with the AMA for .$25 Trillion, Big Pharma for $80 Billion, Big Insurance with $15,000 fine if you don’t get insurance…
This is the bill defined, discussed, and debated behind closed Dummocraptic doors and delivered by Stretch Pelosi!
@51 Same old wingnut crap. When they get caught with their fingers in a little boy’s pants they invariably intone, “Democrats do it too!” Well sir, that’s bullcrap! All politicians are not the same! Democratic pols have their faults but they’re not warmongers and torturers, nor did they break the bank and run the economy into the ground. Those fiascos are 100% “Made In GOP”! So don’t give us this crap about all politicians are the same. Republican pols slither in the stinkiest cesspols on earth.
Not that I asked for it but I see some pushback on Tauscher. Pushback against the King Moron of the HA comment threads – Stupes.
Keep selling that shit and pretending it’s gold fool.
Such a miserable loser, liar (see MWS) and fiend.
@55 It’s a lousy bill because of conservative obstructionists. Not only Republicans, but bluedog Democrats. Even though Democrats are in power a minority party can obstruct legislation under our system. Just remember who made this bill what it is when election time rolls around — Republicans and conservative Democrats!
Yep America will remember it was Dummocrapts.
@56 Who said anything about vengeance, Lord? This is earthly justice. What You do with him after we send his soul up to You is Your business. Btw, Rent-A-Tool has a special on propane burners this week …
Heh. Hey Stupes, that nitwit whacko Michelle Malkin that you brought here once says morons like you should “go Galt”.
It fits. You’ve always crowed what a genius you are, why don’t you take Malkin’s advice and “go Galt”.
Oooops can’t do that ‘cuz you stink that Ayn Rand and her stooge Greenspan are lefties.
Imagine that! Someone you brought here buys into the philosophy of a lefty!
You are too stoooooooooopid for words Stupes.
And this “pushback” has been exploded by all the facts. Puddy Provided Pushback – One against many HA Libtardos!
@62 You bet their ass they’ll remember who passed health care reform — and who obstructed it. Get used to being the minority party because you wouldn’t live long enough to see another Republican-controlled Congress.
Like James Carville said, 40 more years! That’s how long Democrats will run this country. There is no GOP anymore.
ylb arschloch, Puddy uses today’s comments against you fool. You provide comedy every day dumb ylb arschloch!
@65 There’s no assertion too ridiculous for Delusional Fool to make.
AFSMP @ 54, 55: Agreed almost wholeheartedly. No bill would have been better than this bill. I’ve lived in a big, bad socialist country that has a single-payer system. Of course, as any Ayn Rander would suspect, their business and industrial base is decimated. Here’s a small sampling of the pathetic socialistic entities that have resulted from this national behaviorial disease; Mercedes Benz, BMW, Porche, Audi, VW, Siemens, etc.
@58 Keep telling us how much better you guys did for health care consumers, fool.
@70 Can’t buy cheap products from those countries anymore because their wages caught up with ours while Republicans were busy trying to bring our wages down to compete with Mexico, India, and China.
@59…keep swallowing the kool-aid and continue being a lemming.
Heh. You and the Klown are looooooosingg Stupes.
Those plans you hatched in that confab you two had are flaming failures fool!
I’m still here moron calling you a liar whose failed ideology is bankrupt, moribund. Your silly name-calling has NO EFFECT.
And I WILL BE HERE for the re-election of Barack Obama, the indefinite continuing of majority Democratic rule of Congress.
SUCK ON IT, FIEND!
Plans? What plans fool? Oh those “plans” in you hid in your arschloch?
This one has lost his marbuls. Butt then again, we all knew ylb arschloch lost his marbuls when ylb arschloch came here as Clueless!
75 – Heh. Two fiends who know each other only through a political comment board get together and they don’t discuss politics?
What a failing fool.
HCR passes the House – on to the Senate!
@72; we just purchased a Whirpool washing machine the other day. The American company Whirlpool. Their washers and dryers are now made in Germany.
The only “idea” or “ideal” they ever had was accumulate money – greed.
The ones in the know have always known it was by any means possible – bait and switch, corruption, crooked deals, charging over a hundred dollars for a toilet seat or a bag of washers – any way possible. And once they got the money, was it any wonder all you hear is “don’t tax me bro'”? Why would they want to pay taxes on something they stole or looted taxpayers for in the first place?
The more gullible bought the song and dance of “the ownership society” and mostly got taken to the cleaners.
A few have gotten the message and that’s why we see the Dem party identification rising and the R falling.
ylb arschloch accurately describes the Dummocrapts and HR 3962…
…Backroom deals with the AMA for .$25 Trillion, Big Pharma for $80 Billion, Big Insurance with $15,000 fine if you don’t get insurance…
Now how will ylb arschloch afford health care when his sits all day on his arschloch on HA?
Anyone still calling themselves Republicans these days either live in a cave, or belong in an asylum. Sorry Republicons.
http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com
That’s right.
A Disease
Peeps been living with that kind of thing for a long time fool:
http://www.carinsurance.com/kb/content12194.aspx
Poor Stupes, his heart bleeds for the right wingers in California or any other statue suffering under the crushing burden of gub’mint mandated insurance.
Don’t worry fiend, one day we’ll get to single payer where everyone is automatically covered and everyone just pays their taxes and wonders what the hell the commotion was all about. Or maybe a system like Switzerland where the insurance is all private but there’s strict rules and no one goes bankrupt because they get sick.
Silly morons like you will be irrelevant either way.
And if you are uninsured and you fall off your horse, and hit your head, then who pays for your care?
Tax payers.
After they take all your assets of course.
Tax em.
Why did Speaker Pelosi run this thru on the weekend? Hmmmmm…
Pretty chicken s**t if you ask me….
If this train reck of a bill was so supported and desired by the American people, why slam it thru on the weekend, out of the spolight?
83 – That’s pretty lame ass. Why did Hot Tub Tommy “The Hammer” DeLay hold open voting for 3 freaking hours to twist arms for Medicare Part D?
That wasn’t chickehsh*t?
And the Terry Schivo madness back in 2005 – passed on Palm Sunday! That was beyond chickensh*t – that was mass psychosis. Dumbya couldn’t be bothered about al Qaeda activity while on vacation but he could fly to D.C. from Crawford so Terry Schiavo could be a living dead trophy for right wing insanity.
Sorry, we’ve waited TOO LONG for this kind of legislation. The Speaker made the right call.
@84
I’m not arguing that those instances weren’t equally BS…They were, especially the TS deal.
But the after hours weekend slam thru WAS pure chickens**t.
If it’s so important and vital, why not wait a few days? you know, to do things like read and understand what they’re voting for..
85 – It’s a freaking mess but it’s gets some things right and that upsets the powers that be that have been spending millions of dollars a day to mess it up – a lot.
We pass it today – we fix it tomorrow. And we start by primarying fake Dems.
any legislator voting(yes or no) who cannot prove they have reviewed and understand the legislation they are voting on should be removed from office and arrested for treason.
This goes for R’s and D’s.
Any right wing dumbass who can’t tell his ass from a hole in the ground should be condemned to read the comment threads of Free Republic until they can. Which means forever because more than a half hour of that place is enough to give anyone permanent brain damage.
The dipshit AKA ylb arschloch,
Douchebag… Read it here fool…
Then validate it through the Congressional Budget Office where they estimate the lowest cost family non-group plan under the Speaker’s bill would cost $15,000 in 2016. Read it arschloch! No on second thought don’t read it. You need to be the bottom feeder.
Wait a minute… we already have a candidate… ylb arschloch!
What a dumbass. A family of 4 on private insurance is more or less charged that NOW!
Assuming no cost cutting pressure or incentives – what a MORON!
Just following the example laid down by the Republican Congress for 10 or so years. Next we wait until Friday night for major news releases.
Oh, you don’t REMEMBER that? Or Tom Delay making sure there weren’t democrats present to vote? I think your selective memory loss is Cynical. Oh, excuse, me. That ashould be: Chicken Shit, the outstanding characteristic of the Right.
@36 Roger Rabbit: I make no effort whatsoever to work. In fact, I go out of my way to avoid anything that remotely resembles work!
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Yea, and this bad habit started when you first became a “lawyer.” In fact, the state is still trying to determine when you actually retired.
I ahven’t read the thread yet (I just got in). However, this is not really “39 Dem defectors.” The House leadership had already whipped the votes they needed, and having done that, they told the Dems who felt they needed a vote against it for their constituents that they were free to vote however they chose. We were ALWAYS going to win.
We still are.
89 Pud
Wow, your idiocy has just surpassed legendary.
…validate it through the Congressional Budget Office where they estimate the lowest cost family non-group plan under the Speaker’s bill would cost $15,000 in 2016.
Thanks for the link to the reference document from CB to Rep. Rangel.
Because, you see, $15K is not the “lowest family non-group plan.” It is what a so-called “reference” plan would cost for a family of four from group in an incomes range whoe “middle” oncome is $102,100 annually. Not everyone will purchase a “reference” plan; in fact, most people in that income range will have employer-paid insurance. Oh, and families in the $102,100 range are also upper-income. Most people make substantially less than this. A more important point is probably that families below that income level will receive substantial subsidies, and families below 150% of the federal poverty level (FPL) will pay nothing at all for Medicaid.
Now remember that (read the letter) the so-called “reference” plan premium number is the average of all policy premiums for all income groups. As you can see for yourself (if you read the linked letter from the CBO), the projected premium for a family of four earning $42,000 would be $1900 per year. That includes a pretty hefty subsidy. But those kinds of details get in the way of the frightening narrative that the Republican member needs in order to whip up the idiots. And that’s how a zombie lie is born.
Wow arschloch. Puddy’s family insurance is $5700 and Puddy has two in college fool. And Puddy has Group Health.
Don’t let facts get in the way of Daddy Loves Arschloch, but ya know ylb arschloch was almost right…
“Although the national average premium is currently $13,375 [2009 Daddy Love] for a family policy, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, many are much higher than that — particularly in high-cost parts of the country.” And we all know the cost of health care will almost double again within 10 years.
But as you know Daddy Loving Arschloch never let facts interrupt his “great” arguments”. Puddy guesses making $102,500 is out of Daddy Loves Arschloch’s reach! So he uses the heavily subsided value $42,000 to make a silly point. The argument is year 2016 which is 6 YEARS AWAY. Puddy guesses in the Socialist States of America salaries will stagnate or drop precipitously, or as Puddy thinks more peeps will be unemployed and Dayy Loves Arschloch knows something others don’t.
And Puddy paying much less for his family health plan.
Hey Daddy Loves Arschloch…
Those are not Puddy’s words fool… “Although premiums under H.R. 3962 would vary by geographic area to reflect
differences in average spending for health care and would also vary by age, the table shows the
approximate national average for that lower-cost reference plan—about $5,300 for single
policies and about $15,000 for family policies in 2016. ” Douglas W. Elmendorf – Director said it fool!
Group Health??? Heh. That’s too funny Stupes. Your right wing peeps call that “Group Death”. They call it “socialism”. All the doctors that work there are on salary just like in the “socialist” VA system – poor guys can’t charge “free-market” rates.
Groups Health is what Kent Conrad and Max Fauc-us have in mind when they get too weak-kneed over a public option or they’re angling for more medicare/medicaid reimbursement for doctors in their states.
Should I tattle tale on Stupes to his winger pals about his choice of “socialism”? Laugh a minute…
@88…..being a lazy user of women and a leech off of society, I would not expect someone like YLB to hold his elected officials to high standards.
Hey Stupes,
You got one of them “health savings accounts”, i.e. yet another tax shelter for rich people?
The Pooper said a while back he was getting a “handsome return” on his HSA.
Why not join the right wing crowd fool? Why choose that “socialist” “Group Death”?
Too freaking funny, the right wing..
100 – Free Republic is perfect for your Dori Monson-addled head – that’s seen too much of the inner walls of your colon lately.
HSAs are a shelter for rich peeps because you saw that on some web site ylb arschloch?
What a tool!
@poor YLB, no job, no desire to get a job, wants the rest of us to support him while he surfs the kooks sites all day long…
..nice example you set for your kids…
YLB is a fine example of the liberal mantra: he has “rights” to the fruits of other peoples labor….
Mommy, is Daddy going to find a job tomorrow? He says he’s looking real hard every day.
Little YLB, I don’t think Daddy looks as hard as he says he does. While Mommy works two jobs, takes you to school, cleans the house, pays the bills, and cooks dinner so you can have a future, Daddy spends all day on HA talking about things he doesn’t actually understand. Mommy’s pretty much given up on Daddy, Little YLB. She’s going to kick his butt out of the house just as soon as she can. That’s our little secret, ok?
103 – Stats say that’s who are taking out the HSA’s – rich peeps. It cuts their taxes and they can draw on it for Cadillac care when the occasion warrants.
@108….you fool, people from all walks of life use HSA’s….
why are you jealous of people that are better off than you anyway?
The homophobic, misogynist hater whose hero is the angry little man, Dori Monson, thinks his moronic gibes have some sort of effect.
Heh. Poor fool. No effect whatsoever..
Keep losing right wing fool. It in the cards for you.
I laugh at you.
We laugh at your unemployed ASS ylb arschloch… every day… and in every way…
@110…and yet here I am, gainfully employed and making a great living, being responsible, contributing to the family, etc…
while you sit on your ass all day long, unemployed, angry at the world – a pathetic shell of a man who’s wife probably is running out of patience with his laziness and lying.
who is the loser? who is the fool? and who is laughing at who? owned bitch.
111 – No response to your choice of “Group Death”? Too funny Stupes, as funny as letting your kids get a University education in Seattle. Imagine that – being taught by “libruls” like Prof Darryl.
Hey hater, whadaya think of Stupes choosing a “socialist” health care plan from uhhh, gasp! Seattle???
He even chose “librul” education for his kids. Couldn’t he find a proper wingnut school?
Heh. Oh yeah Dori isn’t angry. What did you call Rachel Maddow again?
Silly hater..
Yaaawwwwnnn. Getting bored of these right wing fools..
Supper’s ready..
what? is that all you can do? geezus….
Rachel Maddow…
You mean that PMSNBC fool who didn’t know the US Constitution had a preamble… No wonder her show is in the cable gutter.
Thanks ylb arschloch for telling all the peeps here how you stay stupid, all the time…
And you didn’t cook it. Sits on his ASS all day while Mrs arschloch does all the house work, cooking, cleaning and then slaves for the man five days a week.
What a misogynist! Puddy bets she buys her own shoes too.
ylb arschloch,
Let’s see if your “children” get into UW. See ya fool! BTW they were taught how to spot group stink.
Puddy knows the ACORN don’t fall too far from the tree, even though you claim you son will be like is grandfather; NOT PROGRESSIVE.
Good one.
And…
Double the fine/penalty for any offense if the defendant is an elected official.
The family business (kennedys, bushs, gores, etc.) has to skip 2 generations.
On the ballot, an option to vote them off public payroll. (So one of their “friends” can’t appoint them to some high paying low functioning committee)
@117: cite? The fact that the Boner didn’t know the difference as between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence is all over YouTube for all to see. The next time we waves around his little copy of the Constitution, maybe he could take some time to actually read it.
Preamble, indeed.
YLB–
As I said earlier, your IQ hovers below ROOM TEMPERATURE!
LMAO!!! Naughty, naughty Stupes. Caught projecting again.
I don’t live like a right winger.
C’ya fool!
But Stupes, that’s a “librul” University in GASP! Seattle.
All your right wing peeps including the “rich man” Mr Klynical Klown are going to dump you.
Why didn’t you send to kids to a proper wingnut school like Regent University.
I bet Mr. Klynical Klown sent his kids there.
Hey Mr. Klynical Klown,
Stupes just praised socialism.
In comment 97, he states the typical private health insurance premium for a year is over 13 large for a family.
Guess what he’s bragging about what he pays?
Barely 6 large!!!!!
From GASP! Group Health in GASP! SEATTLE!
Don’t you wingnut fiends call that plan “socialism” or “Group Death”?????
Stupes is BRAGGING that socialism from Seattle is cheaper than free-market PRIVATE!
I love how you wingnuts tie yourselves in knots!!!
You know, you really only need 52 votes to pass a bill in the senate.
How do you suppose Biden will vote if there’s a tie??
I meant 51 votes.
52%
Stupes,
You admitted your ass was beat as a kid. Your head was beat as well ‘cuz it’s pretty certain your head was up your ass even then.
It’s why there’s only gas ghosties between your ears whispering right wing echo chamber bullshit.
One would feel sorry for you but then after reading all the ugly bullshit you’ve posted here over the years that goes out the window pretty quick.
You reap what you sow fool.
@94 We were ALWAYS going to win.
We? This bill is a bevy of last minute – and desperate – compromises that won’t get far:
“There’s going to be a firestorm here,” DeGette said. “Women are going to realize that a Democratic-controlled House has passed legislation that would prohibit women paying for abortions with their own funds. . . . We’re not going to let this into law.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....id=topnews
You may be giddy, but a lot of women aren’t, you dope.
re 131: Well. There’s always signing statements.
I’ve heard that Republicans support this practice.