Seattle Channel has been running Paul Krugman’s appearance at Town Hall, and I watched it a few times. During the question and answer session, somebody stood up and asked this:
…and also, your thoughts on Building 7…
Paul Krugman was very cute in his response, saying that he thought the dazed look on Bush’s face was proof enough that he didn’t have prior knowledge of 9/11.
But to you conspiracy theory assclowns: stop it. You’re not helping.
Matt Taibbi, who writes for Rolling Stone, perhaps said it best:
I have two basic gripes with the 9/11 Truth movement. The first is that it gives supporters of Bush an excuse to dismiss critics of this administration. I have no doubt that every time one of those [conspiracy theorist] dickwads opens his mouth, a Republican somewhere picks up five votes.
Broadway Joe spews:
Yes, Taibbi did say it best. But some people just never get it. Sound like anyone we know?
Troll spews:
If 9/11 was an “inside job,” I’d like to know what other events were. Maybe the Lincoln assassination was an inside job. Maybe Pearl Harbor was an inside job. Maybe the Holocaust was an inside job. Yeah, that’s it. The whole thing was set up and carried out by the Jews themselves in order to gain enough sympathy to get their own state. God damned those Jews are clever!
bma spews:
I think that it would be a bad thing to never entertain the possibility that something like this could happen. Not to mention that I’m sure that there are certain aspects of this that are known by government agencies and have not been released.
However, what’s the point? I mean, really, what’s the point?
For one, if there’s a conspiracy, and you think that the *worst* thing that this group of Freemasons / Rosicrucians / Illuminati / whatever has done is to facilitate 9/11, I think that you’re so deluded that it isn’t funny. Heck, take a look at the things that the government has done that they’re willing to take (partial) responsibility for.
But also, what would you expect if information about this were to come to light? If this were a grand lie, and it was exposed, even more layers of obfuscation would seek to prevent the people knowing exactly what happened. Again, look at what the current administration has done about relatively small, public things like the Plame case. People would be willing to do just about anything to avoid being connected with this sort of crime.
Troll spews:
bma, then you also must think that “it would be a bad thing to never entertain that the possibility” that the King assassination was an inside job, correct? That perhaps, other black civil rights leaders had King killed, and then framed it on James Earl Ray. In your mind, to entertain this possibility is a good thing, right? Or how about the holocaust? Would it be a “bad thing” to not entertain the idea that the holocaust was an inside job?
I’m just trying to follow your logic.
Piper Scott spews:
Your children are your children no matter how hard you try to disown them; you will forever be tarred with their misbehaving brush.
9/11 truth’ers are a logical and quite foreseeable extension of far left paranoia. It’s not a stretch to connect the dots between Karl Rove’s personal responsibility for the heartbreak of psoriasis and how 9/11 was an inside job. Conspiracy theorists and their theories breed more conspiracy theorists and more theories. And if they’re stupid enough to fall for one, they’re stupid enough to fall for another.
So, lefties, to paraphrase the sign in the China shop: “You spawned ’em, you own ’em.”
The Piper
RC3 spews:
Now you know how we feel about Will, Piper.
correctnotright spews:
Uhhh- then Piper – the republicans are owning the black helicopter crowd and the KKK and trilateral commision hate groups along with the John birch society and David duke – you sure you want those rules?
Troll spews:
correctnotright,
The KKK was organized and run by Democrats. Learn your history.
Lee spews:
@5
Crackpiper, the most popular presidential candidate among the 9/11 Truth folks is Ron Paul. 9/11 Truth is the extension of the far-right paranoia that grew up with Ruby Ridge and Waco.
http://www.neuralgourmet.com/2.....f_the_9_11
As much as you desire it to be so, your ass is not an adequate source of information.
Piper Scott spews:
@6…RC3…
A face that only a mother and a conspiracy theorist could love. When contacted for comment, Goldy refused out of fear “they” were listening. When last seen, Geov was hording food since we haven’t heard the last of Y2K. Darryl and Carl were unavailable for comment since they were busy surrounding each other’s enclaves with razor wire and spring-gun booby traps. Paul was busy re-booting his Etch-A-Sketch.
Lee, on the other hand, just did his best Cheech and Chong impersonation while heading up the Seattle chapter of Tokers for Rossi.
Did I leave anyone out?
The Piper
Devils Advocate spews:
@8
Absolutely true! The KKK was fundamentally tied to the Democrats when dumb Christians rednecks voted for “Dixiecrat” Democrats, and not for the rich Wall Street Republicans. But then the parties “switched” control over the civil rights movement, and now NO KKK member would ever dream of voting for a liberal Democrat. The south, especially the more rural and less educated, is entirely Republican. The KKK folks never changed their ‘values’ or idea, they just see those values represented in the Republicans now a days, not the Democrats. 50 years in the future, that might swap again, you never know.
It’s always been odd to me that the Republicans sought out the religious extremists (like the KKK) and tried to add them to their financial conservative party. That attempt to unite those groups is tearing the party apart currently and giving us Huckabee (who wants to change the Constitution to make it “in line” with the Bible, fuck religious freedom) vs John McCain.
Lee spews:
@10
And Crackpiper, if you’re still not sure, enter the following into Google:
“which presidential candidate do the 9/11 truth people support?”
BTW, I’m still waiting for you to continue embarrassing yourself in the Marc Emery thread. Either way, you’ve made the next edition of the Chronicle quite amazing with that meltdown.
Piper Scott spews:
@9…Lee…
Keep sniffin’ Lee!
Ol’ Ron Paul has as many lefty loons in his corner as anyone.
Let’s not forget your own (preferred?) Dennis Kucinich. Take a gander at http://www.prisonplanet.com/ar.....cinich.htm then ask yourself, “What in the name of a controlled substance is he saying?” Will Dennis connect UFO’s to 9/11? Is his contention that the UFO’s were black but a step removed from helicopters? It’s all so complex with Dennis wanting to focus (or was he saying, “Toke, please?” The sound was garbled) on but a few aspects of it all.
Has Dennis been “expanding his mind” again? How else can you explain his efforts to channel Carl “Billions and Billions” Sagan?
That “B and B” business of Carl’s, was that paid for by McDonald’s as subliminal advertising? Somebody had to be paying Carl’s bills!
Back to the Easy Rider soundtrack…
“Chorus
Don’t bogart that joint my friend
Pass it over to me
Don’t bogart that joint my friend
Pass it over to me
Roll another one
Just like the other one
You’ve been holding on to it
And I sure will like a hit
[chorus]
Roll another one
Just like the other one
That one’s burned to the end
Come on and be a real friend”
Far out, man!
The Piper
Piper Scott spews:
@12…Lee…
Oh, I’ll be back there, never fear. It is amusing to see you endorse the concept of a drug-soaked culture and how getting ripped on grass is the apex of Western Civilization since all art, literature, insight, and culture comes from weed.
BTW…still infuriated by and oppose the efforts of groups like MADD? All in favor of those friends of yours who tank themselves up then get behind the wheel of a car? Complain about how unfairly they’ve been treated?
The Piper
Lee spews:
@14
Please do. And make sure to come back with all of your hilarious misunderstandings of what I’m actually arguing. It makes it even funnier for the audience at EffU.
Piper Scott spews:
@15…Lee…
Since your writings make it evident you don’t even know what you’re saying then on that score we’re even.
How’s that New Year’s resolution working out for you?
The Piper
Tlazolteotl spews:
The stupid in here just burns me to read at times. Lee, I don’t know how you stand it.
Will spews:
@ 17
There’s a reason I don’t wade into the sandbox that often. Lee’s got a taint of steel.
ArtFart spews:
“It is amusing to see you endorse the concept of a drug-soaked culture and how getting ripped on grass is the apex of Western Civilization since all art, literature, insight, and culture comes from weed.”
Nah. That was all done a few hundred years ago by a bunch of closet queens working for the church.
Lee spews:
@19
Awesome.
@16
My New Year’s Resolution could not be going worse for me. The urge to make fun of idiots like you is an addiction stronger than any drug I’ve ever tried.
ArtFart spews:
By now the Bush/neocon junta are on public record as having committed so many heinous crimes that debating over what additional things thye might have done could be considered beside the point.
grasshoppah!! spews:
Is it crazy to think that some events are influenced and sometimes caused by a group or committee of interested people of whom there is little or no public knowledge of prior to the event or events happening?
If this question makes no sense to you, you can be easily convinced that reasonable conjecture is CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
busdrivermike spews:
#5 Piper:
So, lefties, to paraphrase the sign in the China shop: “You spawned ‘em, you own ‘em.”
Does that mean you guys own Lee Harvey Oswald? How about Sirhan Sirhan? James earl Ray?
For those keeping score, that was the stupidest, shoot himself in the foot comment Piper has ever written.
grasshoppah!! spews:
re 13: Anyone familiar with that song has more than a passing knowledge of the subject of said song.
Who do you think your kidding?
Did you just wake up one day wanting to wear a dress, ruby-red slippers, and greet people at the airport while playing a bagpipe?
grasshoppah!! spews:
re 13: …and be a right wing loon to boot!
Piper: Don’t ever run for public office. Next to you, Kucinich is a paragon of normalcy. Heh….
grasshoppah!! spews:
Historian Thomas Bailey wrote that Franklin Roosevelt had prior knowledge of Pearl Harbor — that Roosevelt planned and DID use the event as a catalyst to get the US into WW II. Everyone knows that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a fabricated incident leading to the expansion of the US’ role in the VietNam war. Not to mention the bogus event that got us into the Spanish American War.
Similarly, it is not unreasonable to suppose that the Bush administration had prior knowledge of or facilitated the events of 9/11 in order to further their own agenda of world hegemony.
Roger Rabbit spews:
I don’t believe the conspiracy theories (Mrs. Rabbit is a big fan of them, and we have arguments about this), but it demonstrates how far the GOP has fallen that so many people think them capable of it. This is not the party of Lincoln or even Eisenhower anymore. Today’s Republican Party is nothing but a rabble, a mob of screaming crazies. So, it’s not surprising that many people think they’re capable of engineering an attack against their own country.
grasshoppah!! spews:
Will: You should take some American History courses at your local community college. You might learn something.
Until then, do a little research before spouting off about what people should or shoudn’t talk about.
grasshoppah!! spews:
Making conspiracy theories an unacceptable part of the public discourse is just one more way of manufacturing consent.
You anti-corporatists are being influenced by corporatist propaganda to discount all conspiracy theories as wacky.
Cheney’s secret energy meetings are a conspiracy. Explain to me how they don’t fit the parameters of conspiratorial activity?
Lee spews:
@23
For those keeping score, that was the stupidest, shoot himself in the foot comment Piper has ever written.
I have been keeping score, and it’s not even in the top five. :)
YLB spews:
The best policy is to ignore crackpots like Poopster and PuddyLoser.
Pooper’s second-hand neo-con views have been totally discredited. He has nothing left but lying and name-calling.
Puddybud is a paranoiac. Ditto on lying and name calling.
That Krugman tape is well worth watching. I like his optimism. I wish I could share it right now. Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
grasshoppah!! spews:
A gaggle of high school girls deciding to start a rumor about someone is a conspiracy.
There are many laws against criminal conspiracies. I think that people who discount the fact that conspiracies exist are not being thoughtful.
Deadeye Dick Cheney spews:
“Cheney’s secret energy meetings are a conspiracy. Explain to me how they don’t fit the parameters of conspiratorial activity?” Am sure the Court would have used the word ‘conspiracy’ if Cheney’s meetings were within the parameters.
Were you as paranoid about the secret Hillary-health meetings plotted in secrecy by the secretive, sinister, and conspiratorial Czarina of Hillary’s Health-Care Task Force in 1993 and 1994?
Da Bomb spews:
YLB lied about the Cole. Lied about a third atom bomb in 1945. Lies about neocon views. Lies about lies: Piper hasn’t told any lies. You have.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot spews:
“Does that mean you guys own Lee Harvey Oswald? How about Sirhan Sirhan? James earl Ray?” James Earl Jones, maybe. James Earl Carter? Never!
So who/what’s the antecedent for ‘you guys’? Lee Harvey Oswald, the silly little Communist, is for sure a poster child of the Left. Sirhan … Hamas, maybe? Hezbollah? Ray? Belongs to nobody I know.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot spews:
11: The KKK was the jihad wing of the Democrat Party until, using excellent methods of infiltration and intimidation and warantless wiretaps, J. Edgar Hoover put your racist auxiliary out of business.
Lee spews:
@34
Piper hasn’t told any lies.
Actually, he lied in comment #5 when he said:
9/11 truth’ers are a logical and quite foreseeable extension of far left paranoia.
Actually, the 9/11 Truth movement has come more from the old far right paranoids that believe that the UN is secretly trying to overtake the U.S. and that George Bush is trying to make the U.S. part of the “North American Union”. These are the hardcore isolationists, not the far left. Many of the folks who follow the 9/11 Truth nonsense were just as paranoid about Bill Clinton when it came to things like Waco and Ruby Ridge.
busdrivermike spews:
I hear tell that the tin foil-hatted conspiracy theorists say that the 9-11 commission asked the CIA for any interrogation tapes from Gitmo and were told there wasn’t any.
Shame on those 9-11 nutcases!
YLB spews:
YLB lied about the Cole.
I said Bush did nothing about the Cole from the time he took office till 9/11/2001. That’s true AFAIK. Prove I lied about anything connected with the Cole incident.
Lied about a third atom bomb in 1945.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2e66bc and:
http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8237.html
Lies about neocon views.
Where’s the WMD? Saddam and Al-Qaeda? We’re just a Friedman unit away from “turning the corner”?
Lies about lies: Piper hasn’t told any lies.
He just lied about people here supporting 911 truth stuff. Lee has said it was crock almost from the beginning. He lies about people here celebrating the death of U.S. soldiers and helping the cause of terrorists. He’s a crackpot like you.
busdrivermike spews:
#36. Can you draw a straight line? Your hero in action.
From Wikipedia:
“Hoover amassed significant power by collecting files containing large amounts of compromising and potentially embarrassing information on many powerful people, especially politicians”
Plus
“Presidents Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon B. Johnson each considered firing Hoover but concluded that the political cost of doing so would be too great.[15] Richard Nixon twice called in Hoover with the intent of firing him, but both times he changed his mind when meeting with Hoover”
Equals?
YLB spews:
Let’s not forget about those “mushroom clouds” either.
grasshoppah!! spews:
re 33: They are not equivalent by any stretch of the imagination.
grasshoppah!! spews:
re 33: Do you think Cheney’s meetings were about how best to serve the American public?
ArtFart spews:
26 This crew has taken the same principal to a whole new level.
Supposed after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, the United States had retaliated by attacking Guatamala?
John425 spews:
Hey, quit pickin’ on the “truthers”! After all, they are the soul of the Democratic Party and Kucinich is running unopposed for the Presidency of the Flat Earth Society. He stands a 50/50 chance of being elected too.
Lee spews:
@45
Please enter the following into Google:
“which presidential candidate do the 9/11 truth people support?”
You’ll notice a Democrat does not come up…
Broadway Joe spews:
This is why I don’t use the left-right analogy when I describe crazies like the ‘9/11 Truthers’. If you will, imagine a circle, with a free and transparent democracy at the top, and an authoritarian dictatorship at the bottom. The ‘far left’ and ‘far right’ both want the same thing, that being total control of every facet of everyday life. The details may differ slightly, but the dominant trait is that control, with the utter ruthlessness necessary to maintain it. In their quest for domination, the ‘far left’ and ‘far right’ essentially bend the straight-line analogy into that circle, their hatred binding the bottom of the circle together.
And when it comes right down to it, what differences were there between Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia beyond those of style? Authoritarian dictatorships creating a cult of personality around one man? Check. Total destruction of any voices of opposotion? Check. Virulent anti-Semitism and xenophobia? (though it was kept somewhat quiet that Stalin was actually Georgian) Check. What differences were there between, say, Fascist Italy and Maoist China or Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge?
Broadway Joe spews:
45:
No, I am the soul of the Democratic Party. That is, myself, and thousands upon thousands of volunteers helping America stand up and say four words to the Tyrant:
“It’s over. You’re done.”
Piper Scott spews:
@23…BDM…
Lee Harvey Oswald was a self-confessed Communist who met and married his wife in the Soviet Union. James Earl Ray had no known political convictions save that of allegiance to Klan elements, and, as we all know, the Klan was at one time an arm of the Democratic Party. Don’t believe it? Ask Senator Robert Byrd who admits he joined the KKK as a means to an elected end as a Democratic office holder.
As for Sirhan B. Sirhan? He was a pro-Palestinian Arab who was off his rocker, which means he fits the definition of groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah, a couple terrorist outfits on the “we’ve got to talk to them” list of any number of Dem candidates and office holders.
Care to try again? How about Charlie Manson? Who sent his disciples, Squeaky Frome among them, to assasinate President Ford?
Better luck next time…
The Piper
Piper Scott spews:
@26…Grasshyper…
Historian Thomas Bailey must have been under the mind-expanding influence of something at one of Lee’s parties. That he said it doesn’t make it so. That you give it credence makes you one sick puppy!
Oh…would you please list all your other blogging non de plumes so we can keep your multiple personalities straight?
Thank you for demonstrating mental illness blogs too.
The Piper
Piper Scott spews:
@44…AF…
Guatemala? Then I’d say Teddy Kennedy was navigating the aircraft.
The Piper
Piper Scott spews:
@37…Lee…
You go look into who is locking on to the 9/11 truth movement. Aside from the morons who support Ron Paul, tons of them are lefty loons who’ve simply adopted this as the conspiracy movement de jour.
Unhappy with life’s realities, they concoct wild scenarios – a “stolen” 2004 election, for example – to rationalize away their own pathetic inability to live in society in a productive manner.
If you’re willing to lift up the carpets of the HA Happy Hoolihouse, you’ll see a lot of those cooties underneath.
The Piper
Piper Scott spews:
@20…Lee…
From the looks of it, you’ve obviously used and abused most of them!
The Piper
Lee spews:
@52
If that’s true, then you’d see a whole bunch of 9/11 Truth support in the left blogosphere, right? So then you’d be able to point me to a bunch of diaries on DailyKos and elsewhere in support of the 9/11 Truth movement, right? Show me the links!
bma spews:
bma, then you also must think that “it would be a bad thing to never entertain that the possibility” that the King assassination was an inside job, correct? That perhaps, other black civil rights leaders had King killed, and then framed it on James Earl Ray. In your mind, to entertain this possibility is a good thing, right? Or how about the holocaust? Would it be a “bad thing” to not entertain the idea that the holocaust was an inside job?
To not question the facts surrounding the “official” record of events is to blindly follow what other people are telling you is the antithesis of living in a free society. Ranting about black helicopters is one thing, but to assume that all of the information that you get shouldn’t be viewed with a critical eye is simply a travesty.
And despite your sarcasm, I think you’re absolutely right on the first count, but not precisely right on the second. So why not think that what you propose about the MLK assassination is one possible interpretation of events? I’m not a scholar in such things, but is there something about the alternative thesis that you propose that can be disproven right off the bat?
In terms of the second, I think that it is a far harder argument to make that the holocaust didn’t happen, especially given the level of physical proof that is present that I’ve seen. But then again, genocide is often hidden from official histories… ask the Armenians of the Ottoman Empire about that. If the official version of those events was given to the public and not questioned by anyone, is that fair?
Piper Scott spews:
@54…Lee..
Well, you can start on this thread with @26…Grasshoppah…(another nom de plume for headless lucy aka Joe Pine aka a ton of other stuff?)
As for the Daily Kus? The porn filters on my ‘puter screen that site out.
My original point was that the 9/11 truthers are a logical extension of leftist conspiracy theories. Here’s my paragraph in context:
“9/11 truth’ers are a logical and quite foreseeable extension of far left paranoia. It’s not a stretch to connect the dots between Karl Rove’s personal responsibility for the heartbreak of psoriasis and how 9/11 was an inside job. Conspiracy theorists and their theories breed more conspiracy theorists and more theories. And if they’re stupid enough to fall for one, they’re stupid enough to fall for another.”
You guys on the left see a bogeyman around every corner and behind every tree. Whether it’s the sinister Karl Rove, or the dastardly Dick Cheney, you’ve got conspiracy theory concocted upon conspiracy theory to explain in ways satisfactory to you the full nature of their perfidy.
That the light of day and the evidence says you’re full of it dissuades you not one iota. Your minds are made up, so why bother with facts.
Let’s go back to HRC’s “vast right-wing conspiracy.” She actually said that on TV! While we on the right have those whose clothier should supply them with straight jackets – I’m content to believe Vince Foster committed suicide, a tragic event – you guys are off the ranch!
So, when you have so many of your own, it’s natural and logical to see something like the idiotic 9/11 truth theorists pop up. Though I will say Bill Clinton did a good job of slamming one down not long ago.
That so many want to pin the blame for 9/11 on George Bush also adds an ideological/political taint to the whole matter. It wasn’t much to move from alleging he knew in advance to “he” (read: the US government) had a hand in it. The more the left fans the flame of the initial canard, the more their responsible for the 9/11 truth movement.
The left’s fingerprints are all over this mess!
The Piper
ManofTruth spews:
Had to wear the hip waders today to make it through the crazy here
At least we know where they all are
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
I love when this topic is reused.
If you search horsesass.org in google you will see headless lucy and rightequalsstupid were the two biggest supporters of the 9/11 truthers. They placed that crap in many threads.
I’ll leave the searching to the mensa members (term used loosely here) because Eugenics_Projects (YLB) & (Rujax!) would have problems putting the correct search string together.
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
That’s why posts28&29 are definitely headless lucy handiwork!
YLB spews:
58 – You still can’t find a link to where I accepted some bullshit challenge from you!
You’re full of paranoid bullshit!
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
YLB: I posted your response for all to see to my challenge.
Keep on trucking turkey… Oops… Those are not Eddie Ruffin’s words.
YLB spews:
61 – Let’s see it fool!
YLB spews:
61 – Prove you’re not lying – again!
OutTere spews:
@55
It’s a matter of illogical thinking. These so called theories are looking at how the official line could be wrong without thinking of why.
The 9/11 Truth movement has all sorts of ideas how the 9/11 could be an inside job, but they never answer why it would be. Like why would an inside job use Saudi nationals instead of Iraqis? Why did Building 7 get brought down, did anyone care after the Trade Center buildings and the Pentagon? And my biggest why, why did the administration conduct such an elaborate operation to invade Iraq and then fail to plant WMD’s in Iraq?
To me it’s like Intelligent Design. The Discovery Institute makes “science” to show how God must be involved with creation, but they don’t explain why an almighty God needs an engineering degree to create life.
Conspiracies are cute for the X-File crowd, but rarely is there much logic or substance behind them.
Marvin Stamn spews:
#54 Lee says:
Kos in an attempt to appear more centrist banned all diaries about 9/11 truth movement. You should have known this. Did you forget?
Harold spews:
Please do keep it up. The conspiracy whackos and the impeachment whackos are helping a lot. There’s nothing that helps the GOP more than the nutty left. Please keep up the freak parades, the naked bike rides, the Bush burning effigies, the Truth movement, the impeachment hearings, the plastic bag banning, the DKos “screw-em” comments.
Keep it all going. We can’t do it without you folks. Thank you.
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
Pest@62-63: Sorry my rules are I post it once. I of course can change my rules as idiot gene sightings arise.
Besides to steal a phrase from a history idiot (YLB): “I don’t do your bidding” to go along with “I don’t listen to you” which is almost as powerful as “You don’t tell me what to do”.
Dismissed with Prejudice as the Prosecution Rests
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
Marvin Stamn: I used to say you have to forgive a lefty for moronic statements because they have faulty memories.
I am changing it. You can’t forgive lefties. They have the same Internet we whom think right do. “Results 1 – 10 of about 9,640 for Kos bans 9/11 Truth Diaries”
So Lee asked for URLs:
http://wtcdemolition.com/traitorkos.html
“From the Daily Kos FAQ:
Controversial 9/11 Diaries
DailyKos accepts that the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by agents of Al-Qaeda. It is forbidden to write diaries that:
* refer to claims that American, British, Israeli, or any government assisted in the attacks
* refer to claims that the airplanes that crashed into the WTC and Pentagon were not the cause of the damage to those buildings or their subsequent collapse
* Authoring or recommending these diaries may result in banning from Daily Kos.
The Idiot Gene is strong in this one (Lee).
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
Lee: Here is another just for you. From the Puddyfiles
Copy left and Fair use to the URL holder below.
http://www.popularmechanics.co.....27842.html
“Three and a half years later, not everyone is convinced we know the truth. Go to Google.com, type in the search phrase “World Trade Center conspiracy” and you’ll get links to an estimated 628,000 Web sites. More than 3000 books on 9/11 have been published; many of them reject the official consensus that hijackers associated with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda flew passenger planes into U.S. landmarks.
Healthy skepticism, it seems, has curdled into paranoia. Wild conspiracy tales are peddled daily on the Internet, talk radio and in other media. Blurry photos, quotes taken out of context and sketchy eyewitness accounts have inspired a slew of elaborate theories: The Pentagon was struck by a missile; the World Trade Center was razed by demolition-style bombs; Flight 93 was shot down by a mysterious white jet. As outlandish as these claims may sound, they are increasingly accepted abroad and among extremists here in the United States.”
Lee I’m sure we can perform an Amazon search on those 3000 books and we on the right will feel confident they are donkey supporters.
The Idiot Gene is strong in this one (Lee).
YLB spews:
Sorry my rules are I post it once.
Translation: You lie and run away.
Do whatever you fucking want. Loser.
YLB spews:
Next thing he’s going to say:
Do whatever you fucking want. Loser.
“I don’t do your bidding. I’m on remote control from the man upstairs and his angels. They’re the choir of voices inside my head!”
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
Eugenics_Project(YLB): Maybe Lee has all of my erased postings stored. It took me a while searching. I even wrote directly to you. Ask Lee nicely and he’ll recover them for you. Maybe you’ll see what you said. As I said my rule is I post it once. I can break my rule. You don’t like my rule, there is a 1-900 number Pelletizer places here now and then. Something about sucking or other.
Hint: Search, search real hard. You can do it. Or are you a Dull Knife? Prove me wrong…
Waaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa
YLB spews:
I even wrote directly to you.
Directly? Do tell. Which voice inside your head did this?
Coward.
YLB spews:
And liar.
OutTere spews:
@65 & @69
I wouldn’t be too smug in assuming the left is behind the 9-11 conspiracy. I googled left wing and 9/11 conspiracy and the first names I got were all right wing.
Wikipedia.
Michael Craig Ruppert “Ruppert was raised a Republican. He has jokingly said that from 1969 to 1973, he was one of two “living” Republicans on the UCLA campus.”
Morgan O. Reynolds
“He served as chief economist for the United States Department of Labor during 2001–2002, George W. Bush’s first term.”
http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_S.....eories.htm
“Christopher Bollyn, a writer for the conspiracy-oriented newspaper American Free Press, a leading source on the far-right…”
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
Outtere@75:
Use this to determine who edited the wikipedia articles.
http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
Outtere: Results 1 – 10 of about 28,400 for left-wing 9/11 truthers.
Check out Loose Change on Google. See who is backing them. Results 1 – 10 of about 78,900 for Loose Change Left-wing
You can’t tell me the real reason Loose Change was made was to blame Bush!
Then check out the History Channel and see how they blew them up!
http://www.history.com/shows.d.....ion=detail
See ya!
The Prosecution Rests.
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
Outtere: Check out the American Society of Civil Engineers. They also destroy the Loose Changers!
Puddy The Prognosticator... spews:
History Channel, American Society of Civil Engineers, and Popular Mechanics over a bunch of loony looser Loose Changers!
OutTere spews:
@75-79
I have no idea what your last posts were about.
You want to make the left wing solely responsible for the 9/11 Truth crazies and I showed you three right wingers behind it.
Further I’d bet half those kooks are in it more out of distrust of your buddy Bush then anything to do with left wing or right wing.
Puddybud spews:
OutTere, are you another of the deniers here? You have no idea cuz you can read facts. Loose Change was a donkey drive to blame 9-11 on Bush, plain and simple.
You made a statement. I refuted it. Tough to be you! So what three Republicans are stupid to believe it. Many more donkeys believe it by many orders of magnitude.