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by Goldy — Tuesday, 1/3/06, 9:31 am

NW Progressive Institute has posted it’s first annual Neiwert Awards to honor NW progressive bloggers (you know… like “Best Muckraker… me.) I’m not sure what the selection process was, but it’s hard to argue with any of the recipients. Even if you’re one of those people who tend to dis awards like this (and admittedly, I tend to be one of them,) it’s worth looking at the list of winners just to learn more about some of our region’s other great blogs.

It’s also hard to argue with honoring David Neiwert by naming the awards after him (though in Judaism, we tend to name after the dead.) David’s Orcinus is one of the best written, best researched blogs bar none, which is why he has deservedly attracted a national audience. Congrats to David and all the other winners.

NW Progressive Institute has posted a diary to Daily Kos. Please recommend so that the rest of the nation can learn about some of our great local blogs.

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  1. 1

    Mount Olympus Hiker spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 9:39 am

    Hooray!!! Congrats to all!

  2. 2

    Libertarian spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 9:42 am

    Congratulations, I guess, but isn’t this like somebody at the Heritage Foundation giveing Stefan an award?

  3. 3

    Donnageddon spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 9:52 am

    Big congratulations Goldy!

    And big congratulations to T.J. OF ALSO ALSO.

    Keep up the great work!

  4. 4

    Goldy spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 10:20 am

    Libertarian @2,

    Yeah… well… sure. But I’m not going to turn down a compliment.

  5. 5

    Libertarian spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 10:25 am

    In any event, goldy, congratulations! And have a great New Year!

  6. 6

    Voter Advocate spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 11:00 am

    Congratulations, Goldy. Keep up the good work. The liberal progressive point of view has been savaged for the past thirty years, it’s time for folks like you to set the record straight.

  7. 7

    N in Seattle spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 11:54 am

    Geez, does this mean that we’re going to have to buy you a beer at DrinkingLiberally again?

  8. 8

    Mark1 spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 12:29 pm

    Go soundpolitics.org and the Shark!

  9. 9

    N in Seattle spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 1:13 pm

    Yes Mark1, why don’t you go (to) uSP and Sharkansky?

    Who, by the way, are as likely to win a Neiwert Award as Jack Abramoff is to avoid jail time.

  10. 10

    righton spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 1:20 pm

    Reporting this is like reporting rain; big deal.

  11. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 2:14 pm

    2

    “Congratulations, I guess, but isn’t this like somebody at the Heritage Foundation giveing Stefan an award?”

    As is typical of wingnut arguments, your rhetorical question assumes that Goldy and Stefan are intellectual and moral equals, and that rightwingism is a respectable political philosophy.

    Sorry, charlie, but our side is right and your side is wrong.

  12. 12

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 2:15 pm

    8

    “Go soundpolitics.org and the Shark!”

    Go where? Is he going somewhere? Like, away?

  13. 13

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 2:20 pm

    10

    “Reporting this is like reporting rain; big deal.”

    Righton sure fooled me!!! And here I thought righton was a dumbshit!!! Turns out he’s pretty smart after all — smart enough to realize that rain is not only newsworthy but a big deal!!! Rain means …

    flooding rivers
    lower electricity rates
    green lawns
    more salmon
    fewer forest fires
    better harvests

    Rain is, in fact, one of our state’s most valuable natural resources. Rain = good, drought = bad!

    Thanks, righton, for pointing out one of this winter’s most important news stories — it’s raining!!! yay!!!!

  14. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 2:20 pm

    The flooding rivers isn’t so good, but everything else about rain is good!

  15. 15

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 2:25 pm

    In other news, 2005 rained on Stefan’s parade, which is another thing about rain that’s good!

    Stefan’s election controversy score: -4 votes
    Stefan’s Initiative 912 score: 0
    Stefan’s King County Executive election score: 39%
    Stefan’s public records lawsuit score: $0.00
    Stefan’s readership score: -65%
    Stefan’s marksmanship score: Rabbit 1, Stefan 0

    Yep, 2005 threw a wet blanket on Stefan’s dreams and aspirations. Still, Stefan can take comfort from knowing he did better than Low Tax Looper:

    Democratic Write In Candidate: 96%
    Low Tax Looper: Life without parole

  16. 16

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 2:27 pm

    Hey Stefan, how come you aren’t going to share the loot from your lawsuit against KCE with the generous donors to your “legal action fund” who paid for the lawsuit?

  17. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 2:28 pm

    Hey Stefan, how come you’re such a dork?

  18. 18

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 7:52 pm

    Congrats on your “Circle-jerk” award!!!!
    It’s comforting to know that the self-proclaimed “Progressives” enjoy giving pleasure to each other!!

  19. 19

    Mark1 spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 8:56 pm

    @17:

    Hey Rodent; how come you’re such as loser that does nothing at all all day long except post way too much on this site?

  20. 20

    Mark1 spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 8:57 pm

    @9:

    I do go there, but it is much more fun to fuck with naive leftist douche-bags like you.

  21. 21

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Tuesday, 1/3/06 at 10:45 pm

    Oooooops…correction.
    I meant to say people will start to vote Conservative because they do not want anything to do with dumbass DOUCHEBAGS like Clueless, Nin, rujax et al.
    I inadvertently called these DOUCHEBAGS crazies.
    I’m sure my friends who are always RIGHT can understand how I made that subtle slip-up!

  22. 22

    Mark1 spews:

    Thursday, 1/5/06 at 12:34 pm

    @21 and 22:

    Amen brother. And I’ll bet Roger Rodent got beat up a lot in high school too. Hardy-har-har.

You like me… you really like me!

by Goldy — Wednesday, 8/3/05, 6:09 am

The Seattle Weekly’s “Best of Seattle 2005” just came out, and thanks to you, my loyal readers, not only has HorsesAss.org been named “Best Local Blog,” but yours truly has been named “Best Activist/Hell-Raiser”… for the second year running!

Best Local Blog
Your favorite Seattle-based blog is the one that gives “the straight poop on Washington politics and the press”: David Goldstein’s HORSESASS.ORG (see Best Activist/ Hell-Raiser). Sharing his liberal views on local politics and personalities, Goldy makes sure blue Seattleites have something to cheer or sneer about.

Best Activist/Hell-Raiser
Web pundit DAVID GOLDSTEIN made a name for himself as a staunch opponent of local initiative-monger Tim Eyman; that’s also the campaign that inspired the name of his blog, HorsesAss.org (see Best Local Blog). Nowadays, Goldstein comments on anything and everything, including the recent Enumclaw horse-sex scandal. This is his second consecutive win in this category, so he gets to be the city’s best smart-ass for another year.

Also, big congratulations are due to Andrew and the crew at Pacific Northwest Portal, for winning the well-deserved honor of “Best Local Website.”

But perhaps the most amusing category was “Best Fish Market”:

Yep, PIKE PLACE MARKET again, beating out second-placed . . . Tim Eyman?

Gee… I wonder how that happened?

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  1. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 7:17 am

    Congrats, Goldy! Of course, I’m sure you recognize it’s your loyal coterie of Defenders of the Liberal Faith who daily ravage the right-wing foot soldiers sent by the Prince of Darkness who make HorsesAss what it is! :D

  2. 24

    John spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 7:27 am

    Woot! HA.org is da bomb!!!

  3. 25

    rujax206 spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 8:12 am

    Kudos, Goldy!!!!

  4. 26

    GBS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 8:33 am

    Great job, Goldy.

    The neocons may have gotten a 15-20 year head start on us with their talk shows and what not, but we’re kickin’ ass and taking names, but no prisoners.

    Keep it up,
    GBS

  5. 27

    Mark1 spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 8:34 am

    Congratulations! I voted you in for BEST FISH MARKET myself and Sound Politics for best blog. Seems old pal Timmy WILL get his initiative on the fall ballot after all. Thanks.

  6. 28

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 9:01 am

    When Goldy’s a celebrity
    It’s adios reality
    Goldy acts just like a fool
    And Goldy thinks he’s cool
    Just cuz he’s on a BLOG
    Bein’ a celebrity.

    Goldy falls in & out of love
    With marriages that barely last a month.
    When they go down the drain.
    Goldy blames it on the fame
    And pressures that go with
    Bein’ a celebrity.

    Goldy hitched up his wagon and headed out West
    To the land of the fun & the sun
    Goldy’s a real gay bachelor
    A HorsesAss millionarire
    Hey, Hey Hollywood
    HERE GOLDY COMES!!!!!

  7. 29

    Donnageddon spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 9:04 am

    I LOVE this place! Horsesass.org RAWKS!

    btw, Mr. Cyn-Irr SUCKS!

  8. 30

    Nindid spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 9:44 am

    Any luck in convincing 1090 to get someone local on the air?

  9. 31

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:23 am

    So let me understand, back in July you beg your readers:

    Vote for ME!
    by Goldy, 07/10/2005, 11:58 PM

    I spend an awful lot of time entertaining and informing my loyal readers, and I don’t ask much in return: a little beer money, the occasional fawning e-mail… and of course, your blind obedience in voting the following categories in the Seattle Weekly’s “Best of Seattle” poll:

    3. Best local talk radio host: David Goldstein
    8. Best local website: Pacific Northwest Portal
    9. Best local blog: HorsesAss.org
    11. Best activist/hell raiser: David Goldstein
    14. Best scandal: Dino Rossi’s meritless election contest
    15. Best local cause: ending homelessness
    16. Best reform we need: a state income tax
    42. Best fish market: Tim Eyman

    The deadline is today, at 5 PM, so if you haven’t already done so… cast your ballot now.

    Yeah, I know I’ve already asked you once before, and this shameless act of self-promotion is incredibly childish and petty… but then, I never claimed not to be childish and petty. The folks at (un)Sound Politics asked their readers to vote a slate, and frankly I just don’t want to give them the satisfaction of winning. Do you?

    Of course you’re always free to vote your conscience, but could you really live with yourself if that lying sack of shit (u)SP won best blog?

    Encouraged them to be somewhat less than honest:

    Well… duh-uh!

    Online polls are entirely bogus, as they are so easy to be freeped. But hell if I’m going to let the other side freep it unchallenged, and then claim some kind of a victory.

    This is a game, and little more. -Comment by Goldy— 7/11/05 @ 11:50 am

    I voted only once, and I got each of my 7,185 children (i.e., the cute fluffy little baby bunnies running loose in Green Lake Park) to vote once – so that’s 7,186 votes for Goldy.

    Best scandal – Karl Rove’s treason, which I notice is hitting MSM big today. -Comment by Roger Rabbit— 7/11/05 @ 12:49 pm

    goldy…..god, you are just too funny sometimes. “yeah it’s totally BOGUS [dude] but i just HAVE TO WIN.”
    if it’s totally bogus should we all just ignore the “best hell raiser-activist” thing at the top of your blog? what else is bogus? are any of your opinions really real either….or just theater? –
    Comment by christmasghost— 7/11/05 @ 1:16 pm

    Then strut like a prize stud when you pull off the scam!
    Clearly self-delusion runs deep amongst the libs.
    Do the words “hollow victory” mean anything to you?

  10. 32

    fire_one spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:28 am

    Ya gotta feel sorry for “HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS”.. no life, no sense of humor, no common sense….

  11. 33

    Donnageddon spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:43 am

    fire_one @ 10

    Yeah, proudass must spend all his days in the fetal position hugging his pillow and decrying the unfairness of it all. Sad, typical Neo-Con Symp.

  12. 34

    Goldy spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:47 am

    Feeling a little jealous, ProudAss? Maybe you should start up your own blog, and ask your multitude of readers to freep the poll next year? (And there’s a reason they call it “freeping” you know. The word wasn’t coined after a liberal blog like kos.)

  13. 35

    JDB spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:51 am

    Congrats Goldy, well deserved.

    ProudToBeAnAss:

    Please remember, ss minnow asked his readers to do the same thing. But, as usual, he was a loser.

  14. 36

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:59 am

    Yeah, proudass must spend all his days in the fetal position hugging his pillow and decrying the unfairness of it all. Sad, typical Neo-Con Symp. -Comment by Donnageddon— 8/3/05 @ 10:43 am

    The unfairness of WHAT exactly?

    That the Republicans own the Presidency?
    The Senate?
    The House?
    The majority of governorships?
    The majority of state congresses?
    That Bolton will kick butt in the UN?
    That the Dems are in a corner on Roberts?
    That Dems lose when they call themselves liberals?
    That a new study says 13 yr olds are more conservative today then ever in history?
    Tha America finally realizes the horror of abortion as evidenced by its waning numbers and whining pushers?
    That GW hightlights the impotence of the weary old libs daily?
    That King county is in disarray?
    That 912 is on the ballot and expected to kick Chrissy butt?
    That the US economy is the best in years, thriving ang getting better daily?
    That I have one kid out of college and another out of law school?
    That my stocks just keep marching up?
    Yea, life is sooo unfair!

  15. 37

    natasha spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 12:07 pm

    Congrats, Goldy :) You totally deserved this, keep up the good work.

  16. 38

    Donnageddon spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 12:21 pm

    Dumbass @ 14

    “That the US economy is the best in years, thriving ang getting better daily?” How could it get any worse? Since W took control it has spiraled to the bottom.

    “That my stocks just keep marching up?” The stock market in 5 years is STIOLL below the point it was before W took over. In 5 YEARS the stock market has been a losing bet.

    Also you forgot to add this that you Repugs always seem to forget

    “http://icasualties.org/oif/”

    So fuck you ProudAss, and fuck your whole Repugnant Party!

  17. 39

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 12:53 pm

    Those of you who haven’t, need to, read “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” Available now in bookstores everywhere, or on-line from Amazon.com. It explains people like ProudToBeAnAss.

  18. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 12:54 pm

    Alternatively, any book written in the last 150 years on the evolution of apes also explains people like Ass.

  19. 41

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 1:00 pm

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=17641

    Consumer Index: UP
    Investor Index: UP
    Employment Index: UP
    Housing Sales: UP

    Jobs Are Back in Black
    Wednesday August 3, 10:32 am ET

    Investor’s Business Daily
    Income, Spending Expand As Inflation Remains Mild
    Tuesday August 2, 7:00 pm ET

    Total sales of tourism-related goods and services grew 11 percent (seasonally adjusted at annual rates in current dollars)

    “Real gross domestic product — the output of goods and services produced by labor and property located in the United States — increased at an annual rate of 3.4 percent in the second quarter of 2005, according to advance estimates released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. ”

    “Personal income increased $52.9 billion, or 0.5 percent, and disposable personal income(DPI) increased $44.9 billion, or 0.5 percent, in June, according to the Bureau of Economic
    Analysis.”

    Factory output in US grows
    FT.com – Mon Aug 1, 2:30 PM ET

    Growth in the US manufacturing sector gathered pace in July, providing reassurance to Federal Reserve policymakers that the US central bank can continue to raise rates without choking the US economy.

    U.S. factories grow more strongly in July
    Reuters – Mon Aug 1,11:12 AM ET

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – U.S. manufacturing grew more quickly than expected in July as new orders and employment grew and prices paid declined, according to a survey published on Monday.

    US economy kept growing solidly in Q2
    Reuters – Fri Jul 29, 7:00 PM ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. economy grew at a solid 3.4 percent annual rate in the second quarter, setting the stage for steady second-half expansion as inventories fell and Midwest manufacturing picked up, government and industry reports on Friday showed.

    US economy’s steamy summer heats up
    AFP – Wed Jul 27, 5:34 PM ET

    WASHINGTON (AFP) – The US economy is enjoying a sizzling summer, new data showed with both manufacturing and housing posting red-hot performances that economists said could boost growth overall.


    AFP – Wed Jul 27, 2:41 PM ET

    WASHINGTON (AFP) – The US economy expanded nationwide in June and inflation was moderate despite record-high oil prices, the Federal Reserve said in an upbeat “Beige Book” survey.

    U.S. June new home sales climb to record
    Reuters – Wed Jul 27, 1:15 PM ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Sales of new U.S. homes jumped 4.0 percent in June, exceeding expectations and striking a record high as purchases climbed across the United States, a government report showed on Wednesday.

    Existing home sales hit record high
    Reuters – Mon Jul 25,10:27 AM ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Sales of existing homes rose 2.7 percent in June to a record pace as home prices soared 14.7 percent from a year ago, the biggest jump in nearly 25 years, a trade group said on Monday.

    YOU WERE SAYING…??

  20. 42

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 1:03 pm

    Lefty’s @ everywhere:

    You amusing little libs remind me of something my personal trainer says in our thrice weekly workouts:

    “…2nd set of dips on the left.”

  21. 43

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 1:04 pm

    And my refutation of your eternal whining “the economy is so bad -pity poor me- lamentation” is MIA – probably for links.

    Look for it.

  22. 44

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 1:39 pm

    The stock market in 5 years is STIOLL (SP) below the point it was before W took over. In 5 YEARS the stock market has been a losing bet. -Comment by Donnageddon— 8/3/05 @ 12:21 pm

    Oh I get it…

    If you were dumb enough to BUY during the tech bubble then ran scared and sold when the market naturally corrected itself, that would be a problem.

    If you too stupid to NOT sell during the tech bubble and then RE-BUY when the market naturally corrected itself, that would be a problem.

    If you weren’t astute enough to let your stocks just ride the normal ups and downs while letting the magic of dividends work their wizardry, that would be a problem.

    It just begs the question, which is YOUR problem??

  23. 45

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 1:47 pm

    21

    This discussion of the stock market misses the whole fucking point. How many people are rich enough to live off dividends or capital gains? Not many. Most people have to work. The real story of the economy is not the stock market (regardless of what it’s doing) but jobs being shipped overseas, pensions being defaulted, life savings being wiped out by medical expenses — these are the things that are tearing apart the lives of ordinary Americans who WORK and PRODUCE everything our economy actually produces. (This category does NOT include the schemers on Wall Street and in corporate offices knocking down 10-figure salaries for destroying more jobs so people like you can get another 3-cent dividend increase.)

  24. 46

    GBS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 1:48 pm

    Goldy! NEWSFLASH:

    I just read on (un)SP blog that Dino Rossi and the Republicans are going to file a lawsuit over in Chelan County to contest the vote count for best Hell Raiser / Activist.

    Word is Judge Bridges is off of their “A” list. Apparently he interprets the law with a dash of common sense so he’s out of the running. Too bad, too. He would have Bee-otch slapped the sniveling whiners again.

    Oh, and don’t tell anybody, but the woman Dino’s married works for the CIA as non-official cover agent. This is “S” for SECRET. OK? Shhhhhh. . . be vary, vary kwy-iet, heh, heh, heh, heh.

  25. 47

    JDB spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:08 pm

    GBS:

    It all makes sense. It is only through fraud that the ss minnow’s site was not declared the best blog. I suspect a conspiracy that leads to the highest level. Surely Norm Rice was involved in making sure that felons voted for Goldy and his blog. I’m sure that they went out and recruited them for just that purpose.

    Sure, they will all insist that they voted for the ss minnow and his site, but you can’t trust felons, can you? And based upon my statistical analysis, where I ignore any possible to the reality I wish was true (this is, of course, the GWB analysis system), I have found that while there was absolutly no fraud, there was distributed blog fraud!!!

    The only solution is months of money wasted on prolong litigation. Also, I think KVI should dedicate at least five hours of drive time to this. The truth must come out.

  26. 48

    GBS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:10 pm

    @ 21

    Thank you so much for your honesty! It’s greatly appreciated. You are without a doubt, the FIRST conservative who honestly explained the burst of the tech bubble for it was a natural market correction and not Bill Clinton’s fault.

    What Clinton created through is ingenious fiscal policies was to create the financial impetus for entrepreneurs to create new and exciting business ventures. Ah, those were the good ol’ days, weren’t they? Remember when it was worth it to borrow money from your credit cards because the return in the market place was greater than the interest rate being charged on your credit cards?

    I will agree with you that you can catch a shooting star in any market if you take the time to learn and understand the stock market. I personally got a lot from William O’Neil’s book: “How to Make Money in Stocks: A Winning System in Good Times or Bad.” He’s a hardcore Republican that there is no doubt, but sure knows one hell of a lot about how to buy and, most importantly, sell stocks. The returns help me fund my contributions to the DNC without it really costing me a nickel. O’Neil’s a great guy.

    Here’s my recent play that I’m riding. May 5 bought BXP at $66.55 per share, coming off of a perfectly formed cup with handle, industry leader in REIT’s, and paying dividends again with a growing EPS. Paid .68 dividend last June 30 and declared a special dividend of $2.50 per share for owners on close of day on Sept. 30. You might want to snap this one up at $76.16, today’s closing price, before the rest of the investors price in the special dividend.

    Anyways, thanks for clearing the air that Clinton’s economic polices are far superior to Bush’s.

  27. 49

    GBS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:18 pm

    JDB:

    Yeah, I hear that John “Got my ass spanked in 2000” Carlson is going to announce on his show a new ballot measure to restrict Liberal blog sites because the constitutionality of freedom of speech only extends to people who agree with the RNC talking points.

    You know, like going to a town hall meeting to listen to the President of the United States talk about an important issue like, oh I dunno, Social Security.

    Yep, get in lock step or get the F%*K out of here, or be faced with the penalty of arrest for “disturbing the peace.”

  28. 50

    carla spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:18 pm

    Nicely done, Goldy.

    Check is in the mail, I assume? :)

  29. 51

    smoke spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:19 pm

    Congrats Goldie

  30. 52

    LiberalDave spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:22 pm

    And of course there’s about 99% chance that everything ASSPRIDE says – especially about himself – is total bullshit. No stocks, no personal trainer, no children. Just one sad little man with nothing better to do with his life than waste it here.

  31. 53

    JDB spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:23 pm

    GBS:

    Forgive the plagerism, but with some careful alterations, I have posted both your and my post over at the ss minow’s site as “The Dude.” Sorry I couldn’t give you credit, but there was just too much fun to be had. It’s in the thread on the article about Rep Mohler calling EFF idiots, that sites (u)SP posters. I know there vanity won’t let them avoid it.

    Thanks for the good laugh.

  32. 54

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:27 pm

    LMAO –

    Thank you God, for making our little lefties so predictable. Please Lord, please, let them remain amusingly so. We thank you for our little libs and especially for the best free entertainment they provide so well… and so abundantly!

  33. 55

    LiberalDave spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:29 pm

    Oh, and Goldy, the troll will never make his own blog because without anonymity people would find out everything I just said is true. Besides, it’s way easier for him to disrupt a forum you’ve already construted than to do the hard work himself.

  34. 56

    Ahhnold "I'm really a LIberal" Schwarz-a-Spanker spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:31 pm

    Yawh!!

    Goldy whon, because him and his man-ley Liberal bloggers have enormous willies that are PUMPED **CLAP** UP.

    Not like those gir-ley men over at (un)SP blog who have tiny, mushroom cap like penises and buy Vi-ah-grah by the cases. Yah, they are they are teeny, tiny whimpy men with flaccid penises.

    HAHAHAHAHA We laugh at their girliness. Maybe they should run upstairs out of their basements and into their mommy’s arms and cry like the girlie men they are.

    Yah! And it is true that the Lib-eral women are much more beautiful and intelligent the those toothless hick-a-billies they have on their side. I know, I married one. With my money I could have married almost anyone, but hey, when you can afford the best that’s what you go with.

    Yah, so Liberals have it all, good looking women, intelligence, money, and of course enormous tally whackers.

    Those poor little neocon girlie men. Such sad examples on manhood.

    HAHAHAHAHAH we laugh at them again.

  35. 57

    JDB spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:31 pm

    ProudToBeAnAss:

    And thank you for being a great source of amusement and never being able to come up with an argument. Like most conservatives, you just hillariously spout nonsense and assume if you close your eyes and block your ears, that you will be right. THere is nothing more fun than that.

    Although I am a bit upset that you are taking the name of the Giant Green Rabbit Creator in vain.

  36. 58

    LiberalDave spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 2:32 pm

    Thank you God, for making our little lefties so predictable.

    We’re so predictable that your responses are always the same moronic rants or cut&pastes from extremist sites. Sure thing, ASS.

  37. 59

    GBS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 3:23 pm

    JDB

    Bravo!!

    I just read the comments left by “The Dude” way too funny. Ya did it justice by threading it all together. Perhaps in in the future we can collaborate on more postings for their “enjoyment.”

    It’s already got one of them going on the, as they say, “shrill-o-meter.”

  38. 60

    JDB spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 3:41 pm

    GBS:

    Anything that ties (u)SP into knots is well worth it. You deserve full credit for coming up with the idea. I’m glad you like how I edited it all together though. The only problem is that it came across a bit sane for an (u)SP post.

  39. 61

    Donnageddon spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 3:58 pm

    ProudAss @ 22 “If you were dumb enough to BUY during the tech bubble then ran scared and sold when the market naturally corrected itself, that would be a problem.”

    Please tell me you have nothing to do with finance! You MORON, the Stock market is STILL Lower than it was when W took control.

    GET IT? Still lower 5 years AFTER W took control. After the Tech bubble popped.

    That means, and I will type real slow because I know you can’t read fast, The stock market has not recovered one penny in all the 5 years of Ws horrific presidency!

    And you have the gall to call that a booming market?

    Go get your head examined, shitferbrains.

  40. 62

    pbj spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 4:00 pm

    Hmm. A liberal weekly that has to give its papers away names an uber liberal in a “Best of” category. What a surprise. * NOT *

  41. 63

    IDGAF spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 4:24 pm

    DonnaGeddon in all his ignorant, uninformed, idiotic splendor ladies and gentleman! Fortunetly for the Republicans and 2008, just more of the same mindless, uneducated, socialist revisionist babble. No plan, no solutions, no logic, not even the simplest coherant point..Except “shitferbrains” which explains Donna’s existance better than any other possible description.

  42. 64

    GBS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 4:43 pm

    Donnageddon @ 38

    What’s your point? Just because when Clinton took over the presidency the Dow was around 3250 points and he inherited the largest federal deficit in history coming off the heels of 3 the worst economic recessions in modern history. Most notably the Clinton economic growth curve took off in 2nd quarter of 95 after winning his economic policy battles with Newt and gang of morons who claimed that Clinton’s polices would crush the economy by over taxing the upper 1% and turning off the faucet of trickle down economics?

    And by this point in Clinton’s presidency the Dow had increased 2 1/2 times to 8200 points? Then continued it’s unprecedented growth to nearly 12,000 points and Clinton created the largest federal surplus in history. Or do you mean the nearly 23 MILLION new HIGH paying jobs that Democratic economic polices created. Is that what you’re talking about?

    Or do you mean way back in ’98 when oil was selling for $18-$22 per barrel.

    You see, words like “booming economy” or “good growth” are all relative to a persons particular point of reference. Honest people like you and I say over all, end to end, how’d the economy do? That’s the true measure and that’s what we look at. Less than honest people will look at the low point of the stock market in Oct of ’02 and say “see it’s grown from 7500 points to 10,600 points. Sounds good until you analyze the facts and realize that today’s Dow average is practically what it was when W inherited the greatest economy in the history of the planet along with the largest federal surplus.

    So it’s not that they are “lying” per se as much as it is they are using “perception management” from the RNC noise machine to convince the zombies that the economic times are good.

    By the way, the war in Iraq is going good and we found WMD’s. RNC says so.

  43. 65

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 5:01 pm

    Goldy, could you be a little more insecure and needy?

  44. 66

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 5:13 pm

    Reply to 39

    The aforementioned progressive (not “liberal”) weekly is doing quite well financially, thank you.

  45. 67

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 5:18 pm

    Comment on 27

    In case you trolls don’t know what GBS is talking about go here: http://www.kctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3136534

  46. 68

    JDB spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 5:24 pm

    PBJ @ 39:

    You mean the same weekly that ss minnow asked all his readers to vote for him in? And Goldy wasn’t names, he was voted for. It is not his fault if his readers are more numerous and capable than the ss minnow’s.

  47. 69

    GBS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 5:30 pm

    Thanks Roger Rabbit:

    That is exactly the case I was referring to. Isn’t that just sick? Quite frankly, it scares the hell out of me. Looks like we’ll be fighting for freedom right here in the good ol USA.

    Thanks to all you morons who voted for Bush. NOT!

  48. 70

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 5:48 pm

    So a Seattle rag picks HA as great blog and Goldy as hell raiser. Yeah… whatever.

    You regular moonbats noticed I came over a few days ago. I wanted to go into the pit of the enemy and see what it’s like. It was predictably awful. You people are truly stupid. I can’t imagine living a life based on hate, intolerance, greed, covetousness and anger. In a way, I feel sorry for you.

    I did some trolls and you responded as I expected. Kwazy Wabbit wanted to start civil war. Rufax and bat were incoherent. When logic and data were presented, you flamed.

    If you want to see intelligent reasoned discussion go over to SP. Don’t comment and F it up. Just observe your betters. Try to understand how the logical mind works.

  49. 71

    carla spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 6:47 pm

    Mark @ 45:

    Have you always been an insufferable asshole or is this a newly acquired trait?

    And for someone who “can’t imagine living a life based on hate, intolerance, greed, covetousness and anger”, you’re doing a bang up job of writing like an individual who does just that.

    I’ve been to SP and watched them whine and snivel when I completely obliterated at Preemptive Karma their complaints about military disenfranchisement in the WA election. If that’s your idea of “intelligent reasoned discussion” then no wonder Republicans can’t win statewide elections in Washington State.

  50. 72

    Donnageddon spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 7:15 pm

    Redneck Mark @ 45 STOP IT! you are cracking me up! That post was hilarious! LOL

    “If you want to see intelligent reasoned discussion go over to SP” THAT is priceless! I did not know you had such a sense of humor!

    Oh, and I bet you smell funny too.

  51. 73

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 7:43 pm

    Oh, and I bet you smell funny too. -Comment by Donnageddon— 8/3/05 @ 7:15 pm

    Little donnie exemplifying “intelligent reasoned discussion”.

  52. 74

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 7:48 pm

    How does that old song go?

    …”Another one bites the dust…”

    ACT Down
    From today’s Washington Post:

    A year ago, the liberal group America Coming Together was on the cutting edge of national politics, spending tens of millions of dollars on a massive voter-mobilization project in every presidential battleground state.

    The dream was that ACT–heavily funded by billionaire George Soros–would play a decisive role in getting Democratic nominee John F. Kerry elected president and then remain in business as a permanent force in liberal politics.

    Instead, the group this week began sending e-mails to most of the 28 people who make up the remaining ACT staff warning that their paychecks would stop at the end of August. All the state offices have been, or are soon to be, closed.

    Well, that’s interesting, but does the Post have to be so long-winded? Why not just say, “America Coming Together is coming apart”?

    Thank you WSJ Opinion Journal, Best of the Web Today for that good news heads up!

  53. 75

    Donnageddon spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 7:52 pm

    That is weird? I thought I saw a person named “HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS” comment on intelligent reasoned debate.

    Couldn’t be, that would be too ironic.

  54. 76

    dj spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 8:09 pm

    Hey Goldy,
    Congratulations! I’ll be buying you a beer when you next show up at Drinking Liberally. And, thanks for providing this forum and the stimulating and entertaining material.

  55. 77

    zip spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 9:32 pm

    congrats Goldy, you deserve the win!

  56. 78

    Gary spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 9:54 pm

    Amazing! Left wing nuts like other left wing nuts. who would’ve thunk

  57. 79

    Rujax206 spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:28 pm

    So Redneck…see ya later homes…you don’t have the stones to play here. Pretty obvious. Anyway, back to the circle jerk for you. Buh bye!

  58. 80

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:28 pm

    Reply to 48

    You’ve got it all wrong, Bud. We’re not the enemy. You are.

  59. 81

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:30 pm

    Reply to 52

    … And how many of the right-wing whine factories would have stayed in business without massive subsidies from the likes of Scaife, Koch, et al.?

  60. 82

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:33 pm

    Gee, Mark the Redneck, don’t go away! Stick around and show us what you’re made of. Hell, if the Christians could arm-wrestle with lions, you ought to be able to survive a couple pebbles tossed by a cute fluffy little bunny, hey?

  61. 83

    For the Clueless spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:34 pm

    I can’t imagine living a life based on hate, intolerance, greed, covetousness and anger.

    Mark the boneheaded redneck describes life at (u)SP.

    Another projectionist…

  62. 84

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:35 pm

    I mean, Mark … seriously … what were you EXPECTING to find on HorsesAss, a well reasoned and factually supported policy discussion? Nnn-uh. Too many of you ignorant wingy fuckers here for any chance of that.

  63. 85

    Donnageddon spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:39 pm

    Goldy, again I thank you for this forum. We all know rightwingers in our lives, but this blog lets them say what they really think. And that is very revealing and scary.

    But is better to know how delusional your enemy is, than assume that they might be reasonable.

    I love our Trolls, they educate me with their irrationality. They amuse me with their logical gaffes. They prepare me for the fight against the juggernaught of Neo-Con traitors to humanity and democracy.

    A VERY valuable resource!

    Lets hear it for the Trolls! Long may they post their idiocy!

  64. 86

    RUFUS spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:55 pm

    How quickly things change. A couple of weeks ago you donks were jumping up and down on how Rove was going down. This hasnt been a good week if your a lefty. You lost in Ohio. One of your propaganda arms “Donks coming together” is on its death bed. A report, pointing out the obvious, that donks are the main offenders of voter fraud. Like the Boss song goes “one step forward two steps back”. The truth is getting out!

  65. 87

    JDB spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:58 pm

    “You people are truly stupid.”

    Redneck: This coming from a person that would have failed high school physics by saying that you date rocks with C-14, and would have failed middle school histroy by saying that you can not know the date of anything?

    You and the ss minnow deserve each other, the only thing you are ever right about is that you will get a chuckle from everyone else whenever you open your mouth.

  66. 88

    Donnageddon spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 10:59 pm

    Thank you RUFUS for that post! You are a poster child for delusional, FOX news believing dumbassidness!

    Congrats!

  67. 89

    For the Clueless spews:

    Wednesday, 8/3/05 at 11:06 pm

    DOOFUS rising!!!

  68. 90

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 12:28 am

    Reply to 64

    “A report, pointing out the obvious, that donks are the main offenders of voter fraud.”

    Nor is it a surprise that Schmidt(RO, with an 870 vote lead over Hackett at 10:40 PM, pulled ahead by 3,571 in the last 22 minutes — given that Ohio is … well, Ohio.

    Gee whiz, a report from a GOP front organization blaming voter fraud on Democrats … what a surprise! Naturally I don’t expect YOU to be interested in reading up on what a sham the so-called “American Center for Voting Rights” really is, but for those who are interested click here http://bradblog.com/ then scroll down the page.

    Speaking of how the GOP watchdogs protect voting rights, I wonder if any of you rightys noticed this one in their so-called “report”:

    “Lake County Board of Elections”
    “Urgent Advisory”
    “October 22, 2004”
    “Dear Newly Registered Voter,
    “The voter registration deadline passed on October 4, 2004 and we registered a record number of new voters. The demand on ur office has been great and we appreciate your cooperation. Unfortunately independent efforts by the NAACP, America Coming Together, John Kerry for President and the Capri Cafaro for Congress Cmpaign have been illegally registering people to vote and apply for absentee ballots. This is a terrible occurrence that will undermine the process of democracy. If you have been registered by any of these entities then you may run the risk of being illegally registered to vote. Please be advised that if you were registered in this capacity that you will not be able to vote until the next election. We apologize for these problems and we will pursue these entities to the fullest extent. Please notify the Lake County Sheriff’s Office if you have any questions.”

    Source: http://stupidevilbastard.com/i.....e_in_ohio/

    So, Doofus, were you saying something about cheating?

  69. 91

    JDB spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 12:34 am

    Rufus:

    It is a shame you haven’t been paying attention.

    Rove still looks like he is going down. It is clear that he lied, and that he revealed top secret information. It is also clear that he blew the cover of a CIA agent for political reasons. The even better news is that it looks more and more like Robert Novak might go down too. And there is a good change that Scooter Libby is going with them.

    In Ohio, a state that went for GWB, in a district that hasn’t elected a Democrat since Kennedy, and where in the last election the GOP won by over 30 points, a Democrat running hard against Bush and the war did very well. Heck, the GOP only got 52%, and is now tied to the scandal that is sinking the GOP in Ohio. Looks worse and worse for 08, doesn’t it.

    Oh, and after 21 brave Marines from Ohio were killed in the last two days Bush showed what it means to be a war time president by going on vacation for five weeks.

    Yep, the truth is getting out.

  70. 92

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 12:38 am

    “Heck, the GOP only got 52%”

    And they had to cheat to get that.

  71. 93

    Left Behind by the New Democratic Party spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 1:24 am

    Hello.

    If I may ask a question please:

    Goldy, does winning this award for the second year in a row outweigh the jealousy you must be feeling that The Seattle P.I. asked both Stephen and Jim to be guest Op-ed writers in their papers instead of you? It must really burn your biscuits that they are getting legitimate offers, and the best you are getting is references as an unnamed source for potential outings.

    (While winning an award under normal circumstances would be a source of pride, I feel the campaigning by both you and Stephen was really….sad. But your telling people to cheat to let you win…..well, all I can ask is do you awake in the night by yourself screaming “MOMMY!!! DADDY!!! LOVE ME!!!!” into the darkness? Honestly, do you really need the constant stroking? Ah well… at least it is highly amusing to me, and I cannot complain about that.)

    Domo.

    PS-I couldn’t resist throwing fuel on the fire. I love being an instigator sometimes.

  72. 94

    headless lucy spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 7:23 am

    congrats Goldy! Now, how about another post on Tom DeLay?

  73. 95

    headless lucy spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 7:30 am

    Anything good that is happening in the economy is because of things Clinton did. If you want to blame Cinton for the bad things, you must give him credit for the good. But logic and a consistent approach have never been Rep strong points. The gut-level emotional approach is their strong suit. Intelligent design predicts and explains the whole thing.

  74. 96

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 9:15 am

    RR @ 70

    “And they had to cheat to get that.”

    Do you have some proof that the Republicans cheated in the recent Ohio U.S. House race?

  75. 97

    zip spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 10:46 am

    Goldy, again I thank you for this forum. We all know “progressives” in our lives, but this blog lets them say what they really think. And that is very revealing and scary.

    But is better to know how delusional your “progressive” neighbor is, than assume that they might be reasonable.

    I love our “progressives” , they educate me with their irrationality. They amuse me with their logical gaffes. They prepare me for the fight against the juggernaught of Neo-Con traitors to humanity and democracy.

    A VERY valuable resource!

    Lets hear it for the “progressives” ! Long may they post their idiocy!

    Goldy, you will see that I lifted that from Donnageddon above. Did not want to call him and you my “enemy” though. Keep it going, I enjoy your site and do appreciate the hard work you put into it.

  76. 98

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 11:54 am

    Reply to 73

    10:40 PM – Hackett 48,811 (50%), Schmidt 49,681 (50%)
    11:02 PM – Hackett 54,401 (48%), Schmidt 57,974 (52%)

  77. 99

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 12:11 pm

    Reply to 73 (continued)

    How about computers breaking down in the final minutes then delivering enough fresh votes to flip the outcome – exactly as happened in Nov. ’04?

    How about GOP stronghold Clermont County deciding to count ballots by hand because of “machine malfunction” due to “humidity” and then delivering Schmidt a margin of 3,151 votes within a few minutes?

    How about Schmidt’s margin in nearly 100 Clermont County precincts suddenly increasing from less than 1% to 3 1/2% in those final minutes?

    How about Clermont County being a focal point of funny business in Nov. ’04 too? As one commentator notes, it’s “rather remarkable how often the lightning seems to strike in Clermont — and at the just the right time, producing just the right amount of votes for an otherwise endangered GOP candidate.”

    Smells as fishy as the Pike Place market.

  78. 100

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 12:50 pm

    RR @ 75

    “10:40 PM – Hackett 48,811 (50%), Schmidt 49,681 (50%)
    11:02 PM – Hackett 54,401 (48%), Schmidt 57,974 (52%)”

    Schmidt got 60% of the votes counted between 10:40 pm and 11:02 pm. The votes counted during that time were about 12% of the toal cast to that point. I’m not sure what’s suspicious about those numbers.

    RR @ 76

    You make a lot of claims, do you have some references to back them up?

    In addition, your arguments are very similiar to ones made about the KCRE manufacturing enough votes for Gregoire to win the hand recount. I doubt you agree with their assertions of vote count manipulation, and to this point you’ve provided the same amout of backing. Being an attorney I would think that you’d know making an argument with concrete evidence is a pretty weak case.

    Just more baseless claims about Republicans “cheating”. Here’s info from a study on the 2004 election from a non partisan group. I think it’s pretty clear, while neither side is pure, the Dems seem to be the worst offenders, when it comes to vote supression in 2004.

    http://www.ac4vr.com/reports/0.....mmary.html

    “While Democrats routinely accuse Republicans of voter intimidation and suppression, neither party has a clean record on the issue. Instead, the evidence shows that Democrats waged aggressive intimidation and suppression campaigns against Republican voters and volunteers in 2004.”

    http://www.ac4vr.com/reports/0.....dents.html

    “On June 2, 2005, Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean charged that Republicans caused long lines at polling places on Election Day to suppress the minority vote.”

    “However, Democrat election officials in Franklin County and the U.S. Department of Justice have refuted this allegation. During the recent U.S. House Administration Committee hearing held in Columbus, William Anthony, Chairman of the Franklin County Democratic Party and County Board of Elections, flatly rejected the allegation that long lines were part of some effort to disenfranchise minorities and/or Democrat voters. Anthony further testified that long lines were not limited to minority and Democrat communities. Anthony stated under oath:

    “Some have alleged that precincts in predominantly African American or Democratic precincts were deliberately targeted for a reduction in voting machines, thus creating the only lines in the county. I can assure you Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, both as a leader in the black community and Chairman of the local Democratic Party and a labor leader and Chairman of the Board of Elections, that these accusations are simply not true.” (10) “

  79. 101

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 1:24 pm

    77

    Holy Christ, you take me to task for proof, then you spew a bullshit claim like KCRE “manufacturing votes”? I’ll give you proof when you give me proof, Troll.

  80. 102

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 1:25 pm

    Until then, go fuck yourself.

  81. 103

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 2:21 pm

    RR @ 78

    “Holy Christ, you take me to task for proof, then you spew a bulls**t claim like KCRE “manufacturing votes”? I’ll give you proof when you give me proof, Troll. ”

    I made no such claim. Here read again what I said in post 77:

    “In addition, your arguments are very similiar to ones made about the KCRE manufacturing enough votes for Gregoire to win the hand recount. I doubt you agree with their assertions of vote count manipulation, and to this point you’ve provided the same amout of backing.” (my emphasis)

    I think your claims about Ohio’s recent U.S. House race are just as ludicrous as those made about King County in the 2004 governor’s election, and that’s my point. I’m sure you were criticizing anyone here that were making such claims. So, if you can’t provide backing for your assertions, then you are acting just like those you were criticzing.

  82. 104

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 4:24 pm

    81

    “I’m sure you were criticizing anyone here that were making such claims.”

    I usually didn’t bother, but since this is Everybody-Assume-Something-Day on HA, go ahead and think it anyway.

  83. 105

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 4:36 pm

    RR @ 81

    “I usually didn’t bother, but since this is Everybody-Assume-Something-Day on HA, go ahead and think it anyway.”

    So you are saying you weren’t criticizing the people that were claiming fraud in the 2004 Washington gubenatorial election?

    So are you going to keep making baseless claims of fraud in Ohio, or are you going to back them up?

  84. 106

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 6:40 pm

    82

    “So you are saying you weren’t criticizing the people that were claiming fraud in the 2004 Washington gubenatorial election?”

    That’s right. I pretty much didn’t waste my time on that. They knew they were full of shit, so they didn’t need telling them.

  85. 107

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 6:41 pm

    Oh, I did occasionally point out that after spending $2 million on their fraud lawsuit, they succeeded in adding 4 more votes to Gregoire’s margin.

  86. 108

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 6:44 pm

    That works out to $500,000 a vote. haw haw haw

  87. 109

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 6:46 pm

    No, I’m not criticizing the people that were claiming fraud in the 2004 Washington gubenatorial election. I’m laughing my cute little cottontail off at them. That’s all. haw haw haw :D

  88. 110

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 6:47 pm

    Hee haw haw har ha ha ha hoo hee haw haw har ha ha hoo hee haw :D

  89. 111

    RUFUS spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 7:04 pm

    hee ha ha oh that is a knee slapper Rabit hehe. At that rate he he he it would take ha ha $59,300,500,000.00 for you donk presidential candidate to win Ohio. Ha he he ha ha… oh I am laughing my ass off.. he ha ha.

  90. 112

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 7:11 pm

    RR @ 87

    “I’m laughing my cute little cottontail off at them. That’s all.”

    Just like I’m sure they are laughing at you, seeing what a hypocrite you are.

  91. 113

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 10:01 pm

    89

    Where the fuck do you get that from? Democrats don’t spend $500,000 for 1 vote. Only Republicans are capable of throwing around money like that.

  92. 114

    RUFUS spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 10:06 pm

    91

    You right. Shit I forgot donks pay for votes using crack cocaine.

  93. 115

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 10:08 pm

    90

    No hypocrisy here. I think KCRE should be cleaned up. Logan’s incompetence likely cost Gregoire dozens of votes. I’ve posted on HA, what, about half a dozen times now, that King County should hire an ex-Marine colonel to run its elections department because what KCRE really needs is a good head-cracker?

    You, however, are a hypocrite! There were almost 2,000 provisional ballots in ROSSI counties that were counted without checking signatures. There were 8 other counties that had higher error rates than King County, and of these 7 were ROSSI counties, with the ROSSI counties occupying the top 7 positions. Of the known felon and dead votes, all but 1 of these votes were for ROSSI. It’s pretty damned clear the cheaters were ROSSI voters.

    And you preach to me about hypocrisy, you fucking hypocrite?

  94. 116

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 10:53 pm

    Rog–
    CALM DOWN!!
    Take a look at when KingCo mailed out over 5,000 of the military ballots. 4 days TOO LATE!! Plus they didn’t even necessarily mail them that day either…that was the day they handed them off to the KingCo mailing service. Nice work by Logan etal huh?!! Oh and I do believe you will find that Logan’s crew (Huennekens LIED about this). The Feds will come in now.
    That ought to get old Rog lathered up!!

  95. 117

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    Thursday, 8/4/05 at 11:06 pm

    RR @ 93

    “There were 8 other counties that had higher error rates than King County, and of these 7 were ROSSI counties, with the ROSSI counties occupying the top 7 positions.”

    But King County has 1/3 of the state’s population right? Isn’t it you that said that so error rate is meaningless. A 1% error rate in King County has a much larger effect that a 4% error in Kittatas county (numbers for exampl only).

    “It’s pretty damned clear the cheaters were ROSSI voters.”

    So you are extrapolating 4 non-random votes to make your conclusion. Sounds like the goofy method the Republicans used in the election contest. Also, the Dems disputed in the contest trial the use of the trend of precinct votes to apply to illegal votes. I’d argue the same for the counties. Just because illegal votes come from county doesn’t mean they were illegal votes for Rossi or Gregoire. They all could have been for Mickey Mouse or the Libertarian. Neither of us knows who the illlegal voters voted for and that’s what’s pretty clear.

    Your arguments are not based in fact but innuendo. Can’t you see how blinded you are by your bias?

  96. 118

    headless lucy spews:

    Friday, 8/5/05 at 7:20 am

    We all know what Vince Lombardi said. You Reps were so intent on “framing” every issue. Fine! WE give up. You’re right. Winning and holding on to power at any cost IS the main thing. It’s going to be a very different game with BOTH teams playing hardball. Bottom line: Gregoire’s governor. And how well do you think your I 912 thing is going to play in 2008 when the roads are all falling apart and there’s no one but you Reps to blame for it?

  97. 119

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 8/5/05 at 9:38 am

    Reply to 94

    That’s bullshit, Cynical! Whatever KCRE’s sins may have been, mailing military ballots late wasn’t one of them. That’s a goddam lie perpetrated by the goddam pro-Rossi liars.

    Since you asked for it by bringing up this subject, I’m now going to savage you with the actual facts.

    Every single military/overseas ballot issued by King County was mailed on time pursuant to state law and federal guidelines, except for ballots mailed in response to requests received after said deadline. These were promptly processed.

    Any military person who did not receive a ballot could obtain a Federal Write In Ballot from his unit’s Voting Assistance Officer. Military voters did not have to be registered voters. They did not have to know the name of the candidate they wanted to vote for; they could vote by marking “R” or “Republican” or “GOP” in the blank space for President, Governor, Senator, Congress, or whatever. They did not have to put a stamp on the envelope. Therefore, not receiving a ballot in time or at all (because the soldier’s unit was moving constantly, or whatever the reason was) is NOT a valid excuse for not voting. I’ve also heard the argument that some of them were too busy fighting to vote. That’s bullshit, too; they had from early October to mid-November to vote — how many troops in Iraq have been in firefights for 6 continuous weeks, huh? I’ll tell you why some soldiers didn’t vote: Because they didn’t bother — same as the approximately 17% of the registered voters here in Washington who didn’t bother to vote, that’s why.

    In addition, KCRE sent a number of ballots to military voters via e-mail or fax.

    King County issued 15,289 ballots in the military/overseas category, which includes civilians living abroad (King County does not distinguish between military personnel and civilians voting from abroad, so no breakdown within this category is available). Of these, 12,694 were returned by voters. This is a turnout of 83%, which is nearly identical to the turnout of registered voters who voted at polls or by domestic absentee ballot.

    Of the 12,694 military/overseas ballots received by King County, 12,474 were counted. Only 16 were not counted because they were received too late. 220 weren’t counted for other reasons, such as ineligibility or voting in another state. So we know for a fact that NO MORE THAN 16 military votes in King County (out of nearly 1 million votes processed) were rejected as untimely. But it’s very unlikely all of these 16 votes were military votes. It’s possible none of them were. And it’s also possible — in fact, more likely than not — that many or most or possibly all of them arrived late because the voter procrastinated. It’s even possible some people who didn’t bother to vote decided to return their ballots after hearing news accounts about how close the governor’s race was.

    It’s a fact that Washington is more lenient in its voting requirements for military/overseas voters than any other state. It’s a fact that it’s easier for military voters to vote in Washington than in any other state. It’s a fact that not one single military/overseas ballot was mailed late by KCRE. It’s a fact that a miniscule number of military/overseas votes weren’t counted because of arriving late and there isn’t a shred of evidence that even one of these late ballots was KCRE’s fault. To the contrary, the evidence is overwhelming that KCRE did everything it was required to do and could possibly have done to facilitate military/overseas voting.

    Mr. Cynical — the claims that King County disenfranchised military voters isn’t just bullshit, it’s a fucking lie! A GOD DAMNED FUCKING LIE! So shove it up your ass.

  98. 120

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 8/5/05 at 9:39 am

    Excuse me, 204 weren’t counted for other reasons.

  99. 121

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 8/5/05 at 9:42 am

    94

    Where’s this federal investigation you’re promising, Cynical? I don’t see any sign of one.

  100. 122

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 8/5/05 at 10:46 am

    95

    “But King County has 1/3 of the state’s population right? Isn’t it you that said that so error rate is meaningless. A 1% error rate in King County has a much larger effect that a 4% error in Kittatas county (numbers for exampl only).”

    It’s true that King County’s errors are magnified in terms of raw numbers because of King County’s greater population. King County has 2 1/2 times as many voters as the next largest county (Pierce) and 700 times as many voters as the smallest county (Garfield). But it is the error RATE that is a fair measure of a county’s performance. It’s RIDICULOUS to argue that if Garfield County had mishandled 1,331 ballots (an error rate of 100%) and King County had mishandled 1,332 ballots (an error rate of slightly over 1/10th of 1%), Garfield did a better job of running their election! But that’s what you’re arguing when you say error RATE is “meaningless.” Enough said; I’ll let that whopper speak for itself.

    “So you are extrapolating 4 non-random votes to make your conclusion. Sounds like the goofy method the Republicans used in the election contest.”

    Well, I’m glad you admit the Repubs’ analysis method was goofy. It was. As for the 4 illegal votes that Judge Bridges deducted from Rossi’s vote total, I’ll simply say this. For months, we Democrats had to put up with a gigantic volume of hooting and hollering from the Republican noise machine about a “stolen” election and “fraud” and so on. At the end of the day — where the rubber meets the road — after spending $2 million on legal fees — the Repubs got dinged for 4 illegal votes, the Dems for none. So, yes, we’re entitled to rub your faces in it, because Rossi’s bullshit lawsuit cost our party over $2 million, too. To tell you the truth, I think Judge Bridges should have ordered the GOP to reimburse our $2 million under Civil Rule 11. That, in case you don’t know it, is the rule authorizing sanctions for bringing frivolous lawsuits.

    “Just because illegal votes come from county doesn’t mean they were illegal votes for Rossi or Gregoire. They all could have been for Mickey Mouse or the Libertarian. Neither of us knows who the illlegal voters voted for and that’s what’s pretty clear.”

    Gee fucking whiz. You can say the same thing about King County! Since you won’t, I will: You rightys rail on and one and on about King County’s errors, yet you DON’T KNOW who benefitted from King County’s errors! You just want people to ASSUME Gregoire did, and that’s the bullshit line Rossi and his bootlickers (e.g., John Carlson and Kirby Wilbur) tried to peddle to what they hoped was a gullible public. You seem to have bought this line hook, line, and sinker. Man, I wish you were a fish! You’d make any fisherman’s day on a slow fishing day, guaranteed!

    You’re the one who brought up the subject of the 2004 governor’s election. You accused me of being a hypocrite and I said, show me the fraud. Of course you can’t, for precisely the reason you stated above, and — quoting you now — “neither of us knows who the illegal voters voted for.” That being the case, where do you get off accusing me of hypocrisy? I would say your hypocrisy accusation lacks factual basis, don’t you agree?

    What you want to do is bash King County while sweeping errors in pro-Rossi counties under the rug. I say, what’s good for the goose, is good for the gander.

    Also, while Gregoire carried King County (error rate 0.17%) by 17%, Rossi carried Adams County (error rate 1.3%) by 38%, Walla Walla County (error rate 0.50%) by 28%, Kittitas County (error rate 0.29%) by 21%, and Grant County (error rate 0.26%) by 37%. In other words, of the 6 Rossi counties with higher error rates than King County, in 4 of those counties Rossi’s margin exceeded Gregoire’s King County margin, in 2 of those counties by more than twice Gregoire’s King County margin. Which would magnify the errors in THOSE counties, when you take into account the probabilities of who likely got those votes.

    I’m not trying to count illegal votes for Rossi or Gregoire here. All I’m saying is you’re the hypocrite here, not me, because Republican trolls like you have harped on King County’s mistakes while ignoring the errors that occurred in the counties that Rossi carried. Since Rossi carried 31 of the 39 counties, and only 1 county was error-free, I can definitively state that there were errors in more Rossi counties than Gregoire counties — 22 more to be exact. Again, I’m not trying to quantify who profited from the errors, I’m simply pointing out the obvious (to anyone who pays attention) hypocrisy of focusing on King County while downplaying the problems in other counties. Nobody, with 1 exception, was squeaky clean. Which serves to point out that errors, while not necessarily inevitable, are a very common occurrence. The 1 county that got it right in all 3 counts was a very small county where there are only a few polling places and only a couple thousand ballots to keep track of. The job is much harder when you have 2400 polling places and 900,000 ballots to handle.

    We all want credible, properly conducted, elections. In a large county like King County, a perfect election probably is unattainable. It’s a goal to strive for, but error and fraud are two vastly different things, and to claim an election was “stolen” because of the errors that occur in nearly all elections is simply lying. And because an extremely high proportion of Washington’s ineligible felon voters are white males, who tend to vote Republican, and because not counting over 100 misplaced King County ballots also probably benefitted Rossi, it’s more likely than not that the King County errors you Republicans harp on so much actually helped your candidate.

  101. 123

    harry poon spews:

    Friday, 8/5/05 at 9:37 pm

    WA state is the template for the future of the Dems and the Reps. Despite your best efforts,you lost here. Things that are stiff and unbending crack under pressure. Ultimately Reps destroy themselves. No Rep has ever taken the Presidency without winning Ohio. You can’t get away with your blatant cheating in that state forever. The whole world knows that the Supreme Court has no constitutional power to appoint presidents. Bush’s presidency is as fake as Elvis’ black belt and GWB’s Harvard MBA. It’s the best presidency money and influence can buy. But securing and holding power is NOT a compelling or wothwhile vision of the future. It’s an empty and futile pose.

  102. 124

    marks spews:

    Saturday, 8/6/05 at 7:44 pm

    Um, harry; you’re weird…

    Funny how GWB had a better GPA than his opponent…

  103. 125

    RUFUS spews:

    Saturday, 8/6/05 at 10:18 pm

    101

    Actually there is strong evidence that GW won by more than the 120,000 vote margin. Donks are responsible for 95% of voter fraud.

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