From a horse fancier forum, on the subject of former International Arabian Horse Association Judges & Stewards Commissioner — and current FEMA director — Mike Brown:
He’s not even a horseman. He was hired by IAHA because, as a non-horseperson, he had no dog in the fight, so to speak
So Brown went from a horse show commissioner who knew nothing about horses to a Federal Emergency Management Agency director who knew nothing about managing emergencies. At least he’s consistent.
So, what the hell am I doing reading horse fancier forums? Well, after breaking the story on our stunningly unqualified FEMA chief, I suddenly found myself in the middle of row between angry horse breeders, emailing me comments, links and press releases, from both sides of the Brown debate. For example I just received a copy of a press release from the IAHA’s successor, the Arabian Horse Association, attempting to rehabilitate Brown’s reputation:
Barbara Burck, executive vice president and chief administrator of the association added that “Mr. Brown had a long and successful career with IAHA and was regarded as upholding the highest standards of integrity and demanding excellence in all areas under his jurisdiction. His legal background and management skills enabled him to accomplish the rigors of the job with professionalism.”
“He dealt with issues related to enforcement of rules and regulations that often generated passionate dispute by advocates on both sides of his decisions,” she added. “Several of those enforcement issues resulted in litigation. Due to the nature of Mr. Brown’s duties as commissioner, he set up his own Legal Defense Fund Trust to supplement the IAHA Legal Defense Fund. Following his departure from the IAHA, the entire sum in the Michael D. Brown Legal Defense Fund Trust was transferred to the IAHA Legal Defense Fund.”
President Myron Krause stated, “Brown’s contract was not terminated by IAHA, he resigned. Furthermore, there was no due cause to terminate his contract.
Yeah… well… sure… that’s somewhat how some of my sources remember it, but certainly not the majority, and it’s contrary to how it was reported at the time. In a November 2000 newsletter, the president of the New Hampshire Arabian Horse Association specifically reported back from the national convention that Brown was “requested to resign.” And several IAHA board members, including its former president, have confirmed this account in the MSM. (Here and here.)
And according to an interview with IAHA Secretary Gary Dearth in the Nov. 2000 issue of Arabian Horse World magazine, it was apparently Brown himself who originally complained that the Executive Committee was forcing him out.
Q: Why do you feel that prior to his resignation, Mr. Brown repeatedly stated that he does “not have the support of the Executive Committee”?
A: This talk of lack of support for Mike Brown has become rather tiresome. The Executive Committee, approximately a year and a half ago, gave Mike Brown a three-year contract rather than annual contract extensions which had been the tradition in the past. When you look at concrete support and not just talk, there is no stronger support than a three-year contract. However, information that came to light at the August Board meeting
“Standdown.” A term I heard the first time today, which I suspect we will hear more and more, as evidence mounts that FEMA actively interfered with disaster response by such actions as deliberately disconnecting communications and ordering relief workers not to move. A tremendous scandal may be about to break.
My question is: Why does the Bush administration hate America, and why do they want to kill Americans?
Sadly, Goldy continues to beat a dead horse. (pun intended) I for one am a firm believer in why for years the local, state and federal emergency services agencies have told us we need to be prepared to be self sufficiant for atleast 72 hours.
The reality that virtually no one on this blog wants to face, is that a massive response like Katrina will take 48-72 hours to mount. No party, no politician, not even the worlds best military can perform logistical magic.
One question I have for you spewing partisan venom, where were you in 1999? FEMA didn’t do much better under much less taxing conditions, when the floods that followed Hurricane Floyd left tens of thousands stranded up and down the Eastern seaboard, wondering what happened to federal rescuers.
New Jersey, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida were hit hard when Floyd slammed the coast on Sept. 16, 1999. It was the worst storm to hit the U.S. in 25 years – yet it killed only 61 people. That death toll expected to be dwarfed by Katrina.
Clinton FEMA Director James Lee Witt won high marks for hurricane preparation, but the flood that followed swamped his agency.
A full three weeks after the storm had passed, Rev. Jesse Jackson interviewed Witt on his CNN show “Both Sides Now” – and complained that flood victims were still suffering from a “misery index.”
“It seemed there was preparation for Hurricane Floyd, but then came Flood Floyd,” Jackson began. “Bridges are overwhelmed, levees are overwhelmed, whole town’s under water . . . [it’s] an awesome scene of tragedy. So there’s a great misery index in North Carolina.”
Witt explained that the storm’s devastation was unparalleled, prompting Jackson to ask what was being done for the thousands of families left homeless by Floyd.
Though nearly a month had passed since the storm first hit, Witt said his agency was just beginning to address the problem.
“We’re starting to move the camper trailers in,” he explained. “It’s been so wet it’s been difficult to get things in there, but now it’s going to be moving very quickly. And I think you’re going to see a — I think the people there will see a big difference over within this next weekend.”
The Clinton FEMA Director came in for more criticism during another CNN interview – this time for failing to do a better job with Hurricane Floyd evacuation efforts.
“I hate to do this to you so early in the morning,” host Carol Lin began apologetically.
“But I want to show you some video of Hurricane Floyd. This was the evacuation scene out of Florida last year. And you can recall, some three-million people in three different states were hitting the highways, jammed back-to-back trying to get away from the danger. And much of the local as well as the federal government was criticized for this backup. What is being done this year to prevent something like this from happening again, keeping people out of harm’s way?”
Witt explained that evacuation problems were to be expected under such dire conditions. “It was very unusual when you had multiple states all evacuating at the same time,” he told CNN. “It was the first time that that has happened that way and it did clog the highways.”
While Witt’s reputation remained largely intact after the Floyd fiasco, more than a few of the storm’s thousands of flood victims complained that the agency had failed them.
“I had heard FEMA was going to be downtown, so I got up early to get down there and get in line,” one North Carolina woman told the Associated Press, recounting her ordeal months after Floyd had passed. “The time came and nobody was there, just all these people waiting in line.”
FEMA’s sorry performance left her overwrought.
“I had been let down so many times, I just lost it,” the flood victim said. “A friend of mine came walking up, and I just started toward her. She said, ‘Robin, what in the world is wrong?’ I was just standing there in the middle of the street crying, totally disoriented, practically hysterical.”
Weeks after Floyd’s floodwaters subsided, the suffering for many had yet to be addressed.
“We passed hundreds of families sitting outside their now-uninhabitable homes, with their water-soaked possessions spread out on their lawns,” the Raleigh’s News & Observer noted on Oct. 3, 1999.
“Desperately picking through the mess for anything to salvage, most people – particularly the elderly – seemed to be in a state of shock.”
And where was FEMA?
“The larger towns had a visible FEMA and Red Cross presence,” the paper said. “But in smaller towns it looked like utter confusion and despair – no one in charge, no one knowing what to do or where to go for help.”
Goldy—
You criticize Brown for not being a horseman. Fine.
But what about the stupid SOB in Enumclaw who got screwed to death by a horse and you LEFTIST PINHEADS all felt sorry for him?? Was he a horseman?
Politics of destruction. Divisive. That’s all democrats stand for these days.
Yes Mr Cynical, he was by definition a horse man.
There is an easy answer to the question. Did he have a going-away party? When employees leave on good terms and their own accord, especially higher-end muckety-mucks, there is always a party, be it at a bar, banquet hall, etc… When they are fired or asked to leave, there is obviously no such event. So where was the party held?
#4, weak.
Roger, i’d ask why the mayor (“its the cable guy”) hates the residents of New Orleans. Shoot, Bush doesn’t know the town, but Nagin surely does….and i guess not ordering any evacuation, or drinking water, or anything…means he hates the poor folks?
Mr. C @ 3
” …You criticize Brown for not being a horseman. Fine.
But what about the stupid SOB in Enumclaw… ”
I don’t know about his qualifications as a horseman… But, I do know that he was not the head of FEMA.
Curious George–
Touche!!!
Goldy: “That is the moral of this story… a moral that will continue to inform headlines and editorials, regardless of the “he said” / “she said” horsey-board debate over Brown’s resignation.”
Then why all the attention to Brown’s tenure at IAHA? Why pay any attention to his tenure at IAHA? As you have said, even if everybody at IAHA loved him, it wouldn’t of made him more qualified for FEMA.
Ms Chickenhawk
You mean the “red” city of Enumclaw. Where every truck has a Bush bumpersticker. Oh, yeah, your kind of fucking people you coward.
Are you ever going to answer my the question:
Would you have the balls to say the things you spouted here to Cindy Sheehan’s face if her dead son could be standing by her side?
You fucking Yellow Elephan coward. Answer the question.
It’s a race to the bottom!
I find it funny that Goldy and Gang (not to be confused with Kool and the Gang) knock Sharkansky’s website as losing steam when Goldy’s content is following a similar, if not steeper, decline in quality and originality. The comment threads are more and more filled with nothing but senile babble (Roger @ 2) or partisan-line retorts.
As I’ve said before, Goldy sounds like a bad girlfriend — irrational and impossible to please. Not only that, but he rarely has firsthand information or observations. Is it really that interesting to read Goldy’s thoughts on the blog commentary of someone whose information about New Orleans (or anything else) is limited to what they read into CNN broadcasts and other people’s blogs?
How about commenting on the fact that 1/3 of the New Orleans police department has quit? Perhaps beacuse of the $16,000 starting salary and rampant corruption — neither of which are controlled by the federal government?
I know how much the Left loves to criticize big corporations, but how about giving credit to those that are bending over backwards to help?
I’d say it to Sheehan in a heartbeat.
Then I’d ask her how much her handlers are costing the hate America crowd that ar using her.
Then I’d ask her if being used and her now irrelevancy was worth the cost of losing her family, her husband, her job and her credibility.
Bring it on.
Filter hell again – what utter bullshit. At least give us the damned words that your filter finds so offensive – we’re a pretty smart group (well, some of us) and we can surely find substitute words it likes.
Before it landed in filter hell, GBS, I took your challenge to say to Sheehans face. Look for it.
IDGAF @ 3
“Goldy continues to beat a dead horse.”
If only it were only horses that died by the incompetence of Mr. Brown. . . .
This isn’t working guys. Not gonna work either. Poll today only 13% of Murkans are up in arms about all this. Most of the ass base isn’t even energized.
Mark @ 13
“I find it funny that Goldy and Gang (not to be confused with Kool and the Gang) knock Sharkansky’s website as losing steam when Goldy’s content is following a similar, if not steeper, decline in quality and originality.”
Huh? Sharkansky’s site has been ALL GUBERNATORIAL ELECTION ALL THE TIME since late last year. That compares to a few posts about Brown? Hmmmm…I must question your sense of proportion.
“The comment threads are more and more filled with nothing but senile babble (Roger @ 2) or partisan-line retorts.”
I couldn’t say; it is exceedingly rare that I read uSP’s comment threads. But, from what I hear, Sharkansky gets rid of many posts and posters from the left on his blog. Therefore, there is little similarity to HA, which has a small but fanatic group of right-wing posters join the mix.
“As I’ve said before, Goldy sounds like a bad girlfriend – irrational and impossible to please. Not only that, but he rarely has firsthand information or observations.”
Huh? You must be only reading Goldy’s little posts (“Drinking Liberally” and “Open Thread”). If anything Goldy’s posts have been increasingly original. I mean, really, he only broke a story that has become an international media story in the last week. What the fuck do you want?
“How about commenting on the fact that 1/3 of the New Orleans police department has quit? Perhaps beacuse of the $16,000 starting salary and rampant corruption – neither of which are controlled by the federal government?”
Hey, the local politicians there don’t work for me. The feds do! I am far, far more interested in discussing the failures at the federal level.
“I know how much the Left loves to criticize big corporations, but how about giving credit to those that are bending over backwards to help? “
I want to thank Walmart for delivering three semi-loads of bottled water to New Orleans shortly after the hurricane. Unfortunately, the fuck-ups at FEMA sent the trucks and water away….
DJ…Please, read the City of New Orleans disaster plan, read the State of Louisiana’s disaster palns..Then tell me Brown is responsible if you really are that intellectually dishonest (which I suspect you are) The failures at the local level are nearly incomprehensible and had nothing to do with the Federal agencies.
Oh it is working alright. When ANOTHER crony drops the ball we keep getting trolls and their bag pipes pointing fingers but in reality this all comes back to the incompetance of Bush. Quite defending him and let him stand on his own humanity.
13% is working Jimmy? Good god pal, are you really that delussional?
Wabbit @ 2 – Like most libruls, you’ve got it exactly backwards. It is libruls who hate Americans and are killing them. Look, we gotta be honest with people. It IS NOT GOVERNMENT’s JOB to take care of you under every conceivable circumstance. Not their job. Get that into your heads.
Murka is the land of opportunity. There is NO REASON for anybody to not be successful unless they CHOOSE TO DO SO. They can choose to be successful or they can chose to be losers. They can get free education and take advantage of the nearly infinite number of opportunities that Murka offers.
Libruls have cultivated an entire class of people who you’ve convinced to be victims and told them it’s OK to sit on their asses and wait for handouts. That works sometimes, but this time it backfired. You killed them. YOU KILLED THEM!! You killed them by letting them sit around and not take responsibility for their well being. And when catastrophe hit, they just sat there as you programmed them to do. And you killed them. All you libs are a bunch of fucking murderers.
IDGAF @ 19
“DJ…Please, read the City of New Orleans disaster plan, read the State of Louisiana’s disaster palns.”
Why?
“Then tell me Brown is responsible if you really are that intellectually dishonest (which I suspect you are) The failures at the local level are nearly incomprehensible and had nothing to do with the Federal agencies.”
I am interested in the failures at the federal level. After all, I participate in the federal elections, the feds work for me, and I pay federal taxes. None of these things apply for Louisiana or Mississippi.
Feel free to bitch all you want about the local response, and continue to blame the people in need, if you want. It will only reenforce my opinion that you (1) don’t know what the fuck you are talking about (or, if you do, you have blinded yourself by your political biases), (2) are an asshole for kicking people and agencies when they have been severly hammered and weakened, (3) are only interested in protecting Bush from the incompetence of his appointees. In sort, you are just another wingnut asshole.
In sum, go fuck yourself.
dj—
Man, you are turning into one of them LEFTIST PINHEAD RAVING LOONACRATS too!!! I warned you dj….it’s catching. Kind of like a bad case of the crabs! You hammer away on Bush admittedly unwilling to look at the actions of local and state government. As usual dj….you are in the minority.
Cut your losses and run dj. This horse don’t hunt. And go to your Doc and get some of that anti-crab soap to disinfect your genitals that are clearly infected with LEFTIST PINHEAD CRABS! I’m sure it must be hell for you laying awake all night as those crabs crawl around every nook and cranny! Lots of sleepless nights when you hate so much. The crabs thrive on that hate. They get meaner and more persistent.
I would guess AHA may have had some help with pr, kind of funny that it references US Olympic Comm, while one can’t find anything else on AHA website referring to Olympic Comm. Everyone knows IAHA/AHA never had anything to do with Olympics. Secondly why defend Brown, when Brown does not mention anything about his years with IAHA/AHA on FEMA’s Brown bio page. Strangely no mention of his longest and most recent job. No amount of spin can justify putting Brown in charge of FEMA, whose mission is protecting the safety of US citizens in the event of a disaster.
GBS @12—
The dude that got fucked to death by the horse was a Seattle resident dumbass….from the Free-mount District. Yep GBS…one of them!! He snuck into Enumclaw to satisfy his sick fantasy’s….kind of like you pretending to be with poor Mrs. Sheehan who isn’t even legally divorced yet…..YOU SICK BASTARD!
DJ, Thank you for very clearly proving in no uncertain terms that you are not intellectually dishonest. Just very clearly an incredibly MINDLESS, DUMBASS living in a fantasy socialist world, who couldn’t make the decision to shit or go blind without federal goverment assistance at the snap of your fingers!
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Furthermore, you libruls EXPLOITED the weakest among us for your own greedy political purposes. You made promises to them that you can’t possibly keep, and lied to them about making a life for them that is full of choices and free of consequences. It can’t be done. It finally caught up with them, and it has caught up with you too.
As this thing goes on and the victims start thinking about what happened, they are going to be pissed. Pissed that you lead them down the path to destruction and blocked them from being free and independent. They’re going to figure out that deep down you think little of them, and used them for your own selfish greedy purposes.
horse whisperer-26
Let me get this right. Brown presided over what has been described as a disaster at IAHA/AHA and everyone is still alive?
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This shit amazes me! When a democrat is in and conservatives have problems with policies and deciet they lay out positive cures to the problem, then the libs still defend the garbage that they elected, then when the shoe gets on the other foot what do they say? Bush hates black people. Why does Bush hate america (thanks Roger Rabbit very meaningfull). Why didnt Mike Brown do something? Why didnt Bush do something? We could have done “something”. We could have pissed up a rope if we worked at it! WTF are you morons trying to say? Do you REALLY think this mans only claim to fame is a horse judge…come on you Micheal Moore rejects come back to the real world! While problems were many during this mess, starting at the very bottom (people that refused to go) graduating to the do nothing DEMOCRAT mayor and on to the DEMOCRAT governor not declaring an emergency then, yes the FEMA response needs looked into, but the thing to remember is FEMA has always had these problems, it just took the magnatude of this disaster to make them a realization. As far as I am concearned, after the liberal response, you guys are the worst enemies this country has. You have no answers exept we need to hemmorage more money, bleed more of our earnings for the government to spend without a good plan. It is like the gas tax we are going to kill…no fucking plan!
Sadly, the apologists for captian codpiece, chickenshit-in-chief are going to have to put up with a growing drumbeat of criticism of the gross negligence and incompetence shown by their hero in this disaster…and no amount of spinning and parsing will make this one go away.
Sadly the pressure created in their fevered noggins as they try to ignore and deny and deflect the mounting chorus of denunciations will cause their heads to enlarge and explode drenching anyone and anything around with toxic pus.
Sadly I request that they, to be the responsible citizens they all purport to be (and surely, sadly they KNOW who they are), set aside an amount equal to the cost of hazardous waste mitigation. The funds necessary to clean the hate filled slime they surely will contaminate the environs with when they… sadly…pop.
When a democrat is in and conservatives have problems with policies and deciet they lay out positive cures to the problem,
Like the Arkansas Project and Ken Starr’s witchhunt.
It is like the gas tax we are going to kill
The average price of gas over the last year has risen 90+ cents and you want to “kill” 10 cents over 3 years.
Takes brains…
A good one ffrom Josh Marshall at TPM:
For all that went wrong the last couple weeks down on the Gulf Coast, there’s still at least one thing to be grateful for: Bernard Kerik could have been DHS Secretary instead of Michael Chertoff. And as poor a performance as Chertoff may have put in, I doubt he has too many mob cronies and he’s clearly got some managerial experience. And, heck, we don’t even have to get into Judith Regan, which is more than you can say for Kerik.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c.....php#006446
Thank you for very clearly proving in no uncertain terms that you are not intellectually dishonest.
We thank you for the same. Just a few days ago you told us to read some “bullet points” from the Washington Post that were sourced from an “Senior Administration Official”.
Thanks for playing to script.
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13%?? Might as well been an EFF poll. lets wait and see some real numbers. Nobody I hear really believes that right now. And the really grim part of this disaster is on the way. Nobody but the people who really dig into this issue have a clue what is really going on. Apperantly you included.
rujax206-34
‘Sadly the pressure created in their fevered noggins as they try to ignore and deny and deflect the mounting chorus of denunciations will cause their heads to enlarge and explode drenching anyone and anything around with toxic pus.’
Did you make this up? Sounds familiar, like when it happened to the Billary apologists in 2000/2004.
yearight-30
One’s life didn’t depend on ole ‘heck of a job’ Brownie while at IAHA.
Roger @ 1: What story are you referring to? The one I’m reading is this one, but if you can point me to another, please share….
From the interview:
“The answer is the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security, that is the state agency responsible for that state’s homeland security, told the Red Cross explicitly, you cannot come.”
Jimmy @ 39: “13%?? Might as well been an EFF poll. lets wait and see some real numbers. Nobody I hear really believes that right now.”
Who’s poll would you believe? The one quoted is Gallup/CNN/USA Today poll, or do you think it’s too soon?
Clueless-35
‘Like the Arkansas Project and Ken Starr’s witchhunt.’
Or the 1994 midterms – remember that?
Jimmy,
Oh I see Gallup-CNN-USA Today is an EFF poll huh. As for your other comments, I know more about this situation and thru 25 years of professional disaster planning, operations, command experience and FEMA evaluator for Advanced Life Support EMS, plus ten 24 hour shifts a month on King Counties busiest medic unit, I have an insight to something that you even in your wildest dreams, you will never have. The complete and total divorce from reality you and others on site display on a daily basis is not only sad, but evidence suggesting that the amount of individuals in this region needing serious psychiatric intervention and care.
@8
Nagin DID order the city evacuated! Don’t you ever read a newspaper?
@9
I doubt that Enumclaw guy was a horseman, but I’ll bet he was a Republican.
44…..RR……..Yes, and 100,000 Democrats refused to go. As the city buses became fish [underwater], the Democrat homeless then became Democrat victims. Democrats everywhere…….but blame Bush! [Classic!]
Mark @ 13
Hey Mark do you mean THIS: “Why does the Bush administration hate America, and why do they want to kill Americans?”
How’s that castor oil taste, asshole? Did it feel good going down? It’s good for you — it’ll make you shit — and you need to shit, because you’re full of shit!
I have a question for YOU … if you’re offended by this kind of hate talk, how come you didn’t post your objections to it when it was being directed against liberals?
Fucking hypocrite.
IDGAF
Post 3 is good perspective. Not surprising that dj and the gang just let loose with their ususal “…. off” without commenting on the substance.
You lefties are making the rest of us sick with your lack of persective or ability to think clearly on this tragedy. All you see is another chance to circle jerk and bash Bush.
@20
I don’t suppose if ever occurred to you that the city’s or state’s disaster resources might have been wiped out or at least impaired by the disaster.
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“It is libruls who hate Americans and are killing them. Look, we gotta be honest with people.”
How’s that, Tex? We’re not in charge of anything these days. You guys are. Whatever goes wrong, you’re responsible — and ever since the voters put you guys in charge not a goddamn thing has gone right.
Roger @ 44
He ordered the evacuation (too late) with full knowledge that tens of thousands of elderly and poor COULD NOT evacuate. He and the governor did nothing to help them during the critical day between the prder and the storm. Tell us again how thats Bush’s fault or the Horseman’s fault.
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P.S., if you have as many degrees as you claim (doubtful) why can’t you write in fucking English? Seems kind of strange that a guy who claims to own a railcar full of certificates expresses himself in pidgin.
Cheesy Chuckie @33
Swallow some more of that castor oil, Chuckie! It’ll make YOU shit, too.
NEWS FLASH — STEFAN TURNS DEMOCRAT!
That’s right, I just read on Stefan’s blog that he’s going to vote Democrat in the primary! Don’t take my word — go look for yourself!
Now even the rats are jumping off the rat ship!
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yearight @ 40 “Did you make this up? Sounds familiar, like when it happened to the Billary apologists in 2000/2004.”
UH… are you as stupid as this post makes you out to be?
It is amazing how the Neo-Con Symps keep trying to rewrite recent history. You people really have to get some fresh air you are suffering from some sort of aphyxiation related brain death.
I am mean really, do you think the people not who have not drunk the NEo-Con Kool Aid do not have computers or memories that last more than 15 minutes?
The Mayor of New Orleans ODERED the EVACUATION of NEW ORLEANs BEFORE Katrina hit. But don’t let the facts keep Mark The Redneck Village Idiot and the rest of the Right Wing Zombies from accusing liberals and Mayor Nagin for “killing” americans. That honor belongs to the Bush administration and his moronic ass kissers.
Read it, weep, and then kill yourselves. Take one for the team.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHE.....index.html
Idiots.
Donnageddon-54
‘UH… are you as stupid as this post makes you out to be? ‘
I did not know there was a minimum to comment here. I will try harder in the future.
Roger Rabbit-48
city’s or state’s disaster resources might have been wiped out or at least impaired by the disaster.
Note to self – remember to put “disater resources” where disaster will not demolish them. Check.
You are doing just fine yearight. You meet the minumum requirement of stupidity for a right wing TROLL on this blog.
Let the crony contracts bonanza begin!
From the front page of Baton Rouge-based The Shaw Group website …
Hurricane Recovery Projects – Apply Here!
Subcontractors/Suppliers & SBA Apply Here!
Personnel Applicants Apply Here!
The Shaw Group will assist FEMA and other governmental agencies in recovery efforts in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Subcontractors and craftsmen, please click here to apply for available positions: Hurricane Recovery Projects.
Frankly, if you’re looking to nail down some good contracts, I’d definitely try to get into the Shaw Group pipeline, as their site suggests, since they’ve bought the services of our friend Joe Allbaugh.
Late Update: Everybody gets a taste? Jim Bernhard, CEO of the Shaw Group is chairman of the Louisiana Democratic Party.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c.....php#006440
Donnageddon-55
‘The Mayor of New Orleans ODERED the EVACUATION of NEW ORLEANs BEFORE Katrina hit.’
C’mon wingers – if the mayor ordered it quit complaining. Who listens to mayors anyhow? It is not like there was an evacuation plan that required the city to use the school buses or anything.
ROGER@1
YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT.
ROGER @2
YOUR STILL A FUCKING IDIOT
Donnageddon-58
‘You meet the minumum requirement of stupidity for a right wing TROLL on this blog.’
Thanks. Let me know when you guys can take on something more than stupid trolls.
So how do you like that?
http://www.lademo.org/index.ph.....;id=329508
Jim Bernhard, Chairman of the Louisiana Democrat Party, is founder, chairman, and CEO of a company (The Shaw Group, Inc.) that makes obscene profits from disaster relief contracts. And his company and its connections are proudly advertised on both its own website and the Louisiana Democrat Party’s website?
Bernhard has really close connections to Governor Kathleen Blanco. Evidently, he hopes these connections will land his company a major share of the tens of billions of disaster relief contracts coming out of Hurricane Katrina.
Another example of Louisiana’s 150 years of Democrat corruption, which permeates the state government and New Orleans city government.
Yo, YO@62-
We expect better grammar and usage around here.
A question for the wingnuts:
Why does Bush at Blanco’s request order a state of emergency for Louisiana on Saturday morning and FEMA doesn’t even lift a finger for Louisiana until 11:00 AM CDT Monday morning – 5 hours after the hurricane hits landfall in LA? 27 HOURS after the weather service calls Katrina a Category 5 hurricane.
Where is Bush and Brownie hour by hour when a storm with the force of a Category 5 (many nucular weapons) is running loose in the Gulf?!?
Educate me.
Here’s the timeline I’m working from.
DJ@24
YOU ALSO ARE A FUCKING IDIOT
Been reading Drudge again Richard?
yearight @ 60 the point is obvious the Neo-Con talking points regugetated by the TROLLS here is that The MAyor never ordered an evacuation. like 95% of what they spout it is an easily refuted LIE!
But, the truth never stops those who refuse to live in the reality based community.
yearight 63 “Let me know when you guys can take on something more than stupid trolls.”
Oh.blessed be the day we get an intelligent TROLL. But by definition that would make them a progressive lib, so ultimately it is impossible.
Hi, my nick is YO!
I am a fucktarded rightwing troll.
I am dumber than most.
Fear me.
yearight @ 42
And like the ’96 re-election but unlike the 2000 “selection”.
Gosh dj,
I thought that post @ 24 was great. Way better than mine (although THAT usually doesn’t take much).
Yo, YO…fuck you too! (see, that’s more like me…I’m lettin’ me be ME!)
Clueless @ 68
I got the bit about The Shaw Group, Inc. from Talking Points Memo, which happens to be a fairly LIBERAL blog — and also the source of some of your stuff.
Apparently, they accidentally criticize the Democrats from time to time. The bit about the Louisiana DEMOCRAT Chair standing to make megabucks from disaster relief contracts is quite revealing.
RUJAX206-34
IM SORRY YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT
horse whisperer,
I would guess AHA may have had some help with pr, kind of funny that it references US Olympic Comm, while one can’t find anything else on AHA website referring to Olympic Comm. Everyone knows IAHA/AHA never had anything to do with Olympics
Someone named Stacy Nichols from Sunlit Farm Arabians in California said this about it: “IAHA (now AHA) is indeed the official Arabian breed representative of the United States Equestrian Federation, formerly the American Horse Shows Association and USA Equestrian, which itself has merged with the United States Equestrian Team and is the United States’ official equestrian organization. USET provides equestrian athletes to the U.S. Olympic team.”
I’m the last person to talk to about horses, but that seems a bit of a stretch to me for Brown to try and catch a ride on the US Olympic Committee’s coattails.
Roger at 45
The Horsey dude was from Seattle.
I’m thinking that makes him a DemoSplit.
you know there is a lot more to this than we know. Pointing fingers at City, State or federal officials until all of the facts are in is total mindless bullshit.
You know like someone did over at another website about a certain governor’s race.
Brown is a fuck-up. Great Goldy, duly noted. Now move on to something else. You made your point.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007219
Hey Wabbit check out this link and enlighten me on the subject matter. You to headless lucy can read it also, you are not from the south and it is not writtrn with an accent.
Roger Rabbit@49
Wrong, the libs are in charge of New Orleans dummy, that is where the failure snowballed from, city and state level!
klake @ 79
Nice but I would have liked a story like that written by someone other than the EFF
Roger Rabbit@52
Very forward thinking it is time for your meds now.
“The Cheney/Bush administration-When it absolutely POSITIVELY has to be fucked-up OVERNIGHT!”
So while the Dick was house shopping junior was on his own…The Dick is NOT HAPPY when he returns. Let’s listen in:
Cheney: Shit! Junior…you really ARE an imbecile. I leave you alone for one month. FOUR FUCKING WEEKS! You can’t even handle that. Fuck! Just what were you doing? Where the fuck was Karl, anyway. Karl. KARL! Weren’t you WATCHING him??? Who let him get close to those reporters? And that GUITAR…and the FUCKING BLACK PEOPLE. Rove…if you can’t keep a muzzle on your moron here I’ll cut off your shriveled nuts and feed ’em to the fucking alligators. Fuck! Allbaugh’s already down there. We got some SERIOUS BANK to make and about six month’s to nail it down. And none…I mean NONE of you hayseeds are going to fuck it up. Am I making myself CLEAR! Fuck…you bastards are gonna give me another attack. Shit. You morons ALMOST totally queered this deal. Idiots. Rove…get the press under control and I mean NOW. Get junior here out looking…presidential. SHUT UP!!! I don’t CARE how you do it. Just fucking DO it. Your supposed to be the fucking genius…THINK OF SOMETHING. Powell…Powell. We still got something on him don’t we? Get hin the fuck out there. He’s the right fucking color, too. We need cover, and we need it NOW. No more fuckups you understand? All of you? Junior??? Now get going…I want to see assholes and elbows! BIG TIME!!!
Cheesebrain @ 82
Just lookin’ out for ya, good buddy!
YO @ 75-
I’m sorry you flunked second grade.
Yep, there is not doubt about it. Bush, Cheney, Brown and Rove were in New Orleans slashing the tires on 500 buses so that the poor, elderly and infirm would drownd in the New Orleans flood water. Reliable source have it that Haliburton has bought up the next two years production of transit and school buses and is offering to sell them to FEMA at ten times what they paid.
By the way, has the City of New Orleans obtained the Clean Water permits to pump the highly polluted flood water in the city into Lake Pontchatrain? Where is the EIS? And what is this that I heard the the thought to be extinct legless red salimander has been found thriving in the New Orleans flood water. The flood water must not be disturbed! We must protect the habitat of this endangered species. Wye, who know the legless red salimander may hold the cure to freckles.
Get a life! Your desparation to blame President Bush is driving you insane!
I noted something interesting on Kos,
apologies (none / 0)
I didn’t mean my entry above to sound that flip, no disrespect to the diarist was intendend.
**** I’m a Proud ‘Fight Back in all 50 States’ Democrat ****
by LeftHandedMan on Wed Sep 7th, 2005 at 17:56:53 PDT
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No offense taken (none / 0)
I like flip.
by Goldy at HorsesAss on Wed Sep 7th, 2005 at 18:03:29 PDT
If those people saw some of the discussions that go on here they would understand.
Cheesy Chuckie @ 80
The liberals are in charge of NOLA? How’s that, Chuckie? There isn’t even a fucking city to be in charge of!
Last I heard, armed gangs are running used to be New Orleans, and what used to be the government of New Orleans can’t even find a working phone line, because FEMA ordered the phones disconnected.
So Chuckie — if (God forbid) Miami is flattened by a terrorist nuclear bomb, and Jeb Bush’s can’t do anything for survivors because (a) the cops and firemen are all dead, (b) no hospitals were left standing, (c) the phones don’t work, (d) rubble makes the streets impassable, and (e) looters and gangs are preying on anyone who’s left … and King George sits at his ranch strumming a guitar and eating cake … the lack of rescue efforts, food, water, or law and order in the demolished city is Jeb’s fault — right?
Liberal Dave,
Yea the Olympic thing is total bs, just ramping up the ole resume. Did seem to work at Senate confirmation hearing. The Calif person seems to be defending her pal Brown on other boards as well. I too have many pals in the horse world but can’t think of any to head FEMA. I’m sure Brown had his friends in the horse world and that’s fine, they need to ask themselves how they would feel if they or a loved one was a victim of Brownies performance over the last 10 days. The issue is how in the hell Bush was stupid enough ever to give the imbecile this job. Didn’t they have some little state delegation job in Guam or some other little place for him to push papers around?
@5
Explain to me again how the total absence of any federal response for FOUR DAYS after the storm was the mayor’s or governor’s fault?
By the way, shithead, the governor of Louisiana is not responsible for disaster response in Mississippi and Alabama.
By the way, shithead, the governor of Louisiana is not responsible for disaster response in Mississippi and Alabama.
You forgot Louisiana too!
Clueless @ 67
‘Educate me.’
No way. It is much more entertaining to read HA less the education.
@58
What a stupid fucking post. That scenario might work if, 300 years ago, French pirates hadn’t put the whole fucking city where a disaster would wipe out the whole fucking city.
93 – yes, unlike your site.
Roger @90
i wish to hell you’d stop using that scenerio.
It’s not the same and you know it. I doubt very seriously that if a bomb did go off in Miami that Jeb would have 36 hours warning before it hit. That’s where the emergency plan of NOLA was fucked up…not after it hit.
@65
“Bernhard has really close connections to Governor Kathleen Blanco. Evidently, he hopes these connections will land his company a major share of the tens of billions of disaster relief contracts coming out of Hurricane Katrina.”
Oh shit! I own Shaw Group stock, too! I thought those guys just made big pipes for Middle East refineries run by terrorism sympathizers. Well, I have a fat profit in SGR, so maybe I should sell it now — wouldn’t want to be a politically incorrect bunny. It’s bad enough that I’m a capitalist bunny.
Hey Wabbit what are refugee or victims of a storm? You to make a commint Headless Lucy.
http://www.wwltv.com/local/sto.....635f1.html
But the choice has stirred anger among some readers and other critics, particularly in the black community. They have argued that “refugee” somehow implies that the displaced storm victims, many of whom have been black, are second-class citizens — or not even Americans.
“It is racist to call American citizens refugees,” the Rev. Jesse Jackson said, visiting the Houston Astrodome on Monday. Members of the Congressional Black Caucus have expressed similar sentiments.
Hmmm … pulling up my portfolio, I bought SGR for $19 some time ago, it’s up 28 cents today to $22, so I’m gonna hold off selling for now. It needs to make some more obscene profits to make it worth my while.
Flakey Klakey @ 98 “Hey Wabbit what are refugee or victims of a storm? You to make a commint Headless Lucy.”
WOW. where do I send my box tops to get a Flakey Klakey decoder ring?
Careful RR, you are gonna blow our cover. The TROLLS here all live in 1969 and think liberal progressives are long haired hippies who spit on soildiers and despise money.
It’s best they not know that we are capitalists just like them, but with bigger brains and are Kool Aid free.
@98
Uh-oh, if Rev. Jackson says I can’t call ’em refugees, I’d better not! Hmmm … put my bureaucratic skills to work … how about referring to the victims as the
“repositioned residents of New Orleans”
and the disaster as,
“a representation of how modes of operations, infrastructure, and processes in addition to being interrelated must be managed at the systemic horizontally positioned area level in order to be appropriate as well as effectual for identifying and adapting to emerging value adding opportunities spawned by extemporaneous alterations of the physical milieu in a manner that is likely to dominate the development of strategies and cause resistance to change among stakeholders, thereby necessitating a framework for dialogue which allows for value-based planning procedures that are effective to calculate performance ratios applicable to a wide range of scenarios at the interdisciplinary level.”
Don’t ask me what the hell that means — I don’t know. I have a Dilbert game on my computer that simulates corporate jargon. I plugged in the phrase “Hurricane Katrina, destruction of New Orleans” and that’s what came out.
Hey Wabbit they are takeing your friends out of their homes in New Orleans. You got a apare room in the rabbit hutch for some of those refugees.
http://www.wwltv.com/sharedcon.....5e52b.html
Mayor C. Ray Nagin ordered law officers and the military late Tuesday to evacuate all holdouts – by force if necessary. He warned that the combination of fetid water, fires and natural gas leaks after Hurricane Katrina made it too dangerous to stay.
In fact, the first government tests confirmed Wednesday that the amount of sewage-related bacteria in the floodwaters is at least 10 times higher than acceptable safety levels. Dr. Julie Gerberding, chief of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warned stragglers not to even touch the water and pleaded: “If you haven’t left the city yet, you must do so.”
As of midday, there were no reports of anyone being removed by force. And it was not clear how the order would be carried out.
Active-military troops said they had no plans to use force. National Guard officers said they do not take orders from the mayor. And even the police said they were not ready to use force just yet. It appeared that the mere threat of force would be the first option.
“We have thousands of people who want to voluntarily evacuate at this time,” Police Chief Eddie Compass said. “Once they are all out, then we’ll concentrate our forces on mandatory evacuation.”
I prefer to call them American Citizens whose wellbeing has been ignored by the Bush administration because they aren’t his “base”.
@96
Looks the same to me: City reduced to rubble. Lots of dead people. No functioning services. Looters and thugs taking over the streets. FEMA scratching his head and saying, “Hi! I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.” No help in sight.
@101
Didn’t you hear? All the hippies became neocons.
I thought hippies were assholes back in ’70 when they spit on me as I got off the plane from Nam, but they’re REALLY assholes now!!! I guess we shouldn’t be surprised those fuckers voted for Bush and drive up gas prices with their gas-guzzling SUVs.
A fine bunch of defenders of this blog here. I’ve have not seen this much juvenile back and forth since grade school. Way over the top.
As far as the topic. I happen to agree with the blogger. Mike Brown does need to go, but unless he’s got it in for Brown, I don’t see why he’s not also calling for Nagin and Blanco to go. There are hundreds of articles and now even CNN, ABC, etc. that make it pretty clear that the Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin have at least as much a share in this disaster as anyone at FEMA.
I think most that comment here are simply angry with Bush and willing to say or do anything to attack him. That’s sad, because as much as you want to believe it, Bush did not cause the hurricane, nor did he handcuff 20% of New Orleans to their homes so they could not leave. Even in the absolute best case scenario, it would take FEMA 24 to 28 hours to get in after a hurricane. But what matters in hurricanes and other known impending disasters is what happens before the disaster hits. In that regard, Mayor Nagin failed his citizens miserably. There is a lot of blood on his hands.
I understand the frustration that many on the left have with Bush. But the over the top irrationality does not help the case. You can say a lot of bad things about Bush, but implying that he actively hates Americans and wants to kill them is just beyond the pale. Seek counseling.
P.S., I don’t care if those greedy money-grubbing bastards find out that Roger Rabbit shorted their stocks and is now counting coin that used to be theirs! I hope they do find out! Hey you scumbags ROGER RABBIT HAS YOUR MONEY!!! Suckers!!! :D :D :D
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@109
You must be new here. You’re not familiar with this blog, are you?
Careful RR, you are gonna blow our cover. The TROLLS here all live in 1969 and think liberal progressives are long haired hippies who spit on soildiers and despise money. -Comment by Donnageddon— 9/7/05 @ 10:40 pm
They are, except now they are tatoo’d and pierced punks living in one room apartments and spit on WOUNDED soldiers at Walter Reed.
@109
Dear Mr. Mcdonald,
You seem like a nice and well-intentioned, albeit naive, man. You think liberals should meet the endless abuse heaped on us by right-wing haters with reasoned discourse. You are mistaken.
It takes a baseball bat to fight a baseball bat, and a gun to fight a gun.
What you see on this blog is exactly the kind of venom that wingers have inflicted on us for years, nay, decades. They called us “commies,” “traitors, “unpatriotic,” and a lot of other nasty names. Sometimes they even threaten us. When their most prominent spokeswoman, Ann Coulter, outrageously stated that liberals should be put in “concentrated camps” or “executed” they reacted with wild applause and bought carloads of her books, showering millions in royalties on her.
Mr. McDonald, we know who the enemy is — it’s the haters of the Far Right who are trying to destroy the America we love. An America that used to belong to all of us, but which they want to turn into their exclusive private preserve. And we know what it will take to fight this enemy, because they are implacable and ruthless.
Liberals aren’t nice anymore. We’re not polite anymore. Get used to it.
Sincerely,
Roger Rabbit
Commander, Resistance League Against the Right-Wing Occupation of America
Ass @ 112 No, RR has it right, the hippies became Neo-Cons and are again spitting on the soldiers. This time in Iraq.
@112
Find me ONE wounded soldier at Walter Reed that’s been spit on, you fucking liar. ONE. Find me ONE.
Ass, you are not only a liar, you are also a traitor, and an unpatriotic, un-American, fascist piece of dried pig dung.
RR, ass is also a terrorist. He gives the terrorists aid and comfort with every lie he tells.
Hey I have an idea — let’s tie HowCanYouBeSuchAnAss to a Maverick missile and fire him at a terrorist. You know what happens to terrorists who get hit by pig dung — they don’t get any virgins and they go straight to Hell!
If we miss the terrorist, no problem, that’s lot’s more pig dung where Ass came from. Just tie another troll to another missile and you’re good to go!
– the thing is, we started as a nation of Puritans, and have become more liberal as time has passed. We will become more liberal as times goes on, it is inevitable. That is what fires the passions of the extreme right; the fact that they are fighting a losing battle, and they know it.
Proud to be an Ass:
Of course, if we had not entered a war of choice, apparently to make Iraq free for Religious extremist, there would be no wounded soldiers to spit on.
Heck, if they would just get them their body armor, things would be much better. Shame that the Sec. of Defense doesn’t care about our fighting men and women.
@116
How did I overlook that? Yes, ASS supports terrorists! Every time he dumps another $60 of gas into his SUV, he’s buying another crate of C-4 for Iraqi suicide bombers!
JDB – as a vet, I have to tell you that these are the best trained, best protected soldiers. EVER. The body armor technology, as well as the vehicle armor technology has changed so fast, it is almost impossible to keep up. The point would be that if we were not deployed to Iraq, there would be no requirement for advanced body armor.
@119
JDB, my point is that no one is spitting on soldiers. That’s nothing but a Fucking Right Wing Lie. Liberals love our soldiers. We love them so much, we want them to come home alive. Now.
Republicans, on the other hand, hate the military and especially hate serving in it. They hate the soldiers, too. The proof of this is sending them to die for oil in a war based on lies. Their efforts to eliminate combat pay for soldiers in Iraq, to rush through discharges of wounded soldiers so the Pentagon won’t have to pay for their medical care, and cut veterans benefits is further evidence that Republicans hate our soldiers. Why should they like them? They were never soldiers themselves, and liking soldiers costs money — money they don’t want to pay. Republicans, you see, are people who like to make money with OPM (other people’s money), fight wars with OPC (other people’s children), and subsidize the corporations they own with OPT (other people’s taxes) … and they would never fight their wars themselves or pay for anything with their own money, because they’re
F R E E L O A D E R S
RR,
Being liberal is not killing your fellow citizens, or destroying their property, etc. just because you disagree with them. I agree, there is a lot of venom on the right as well, but more than the extremes, most of America is somewhere in the middle like myself.
I agree with a lot of the social policies of the left, and I think there are some good, well intentioned people on the left that are fighting for some important issues. But when I see outright attacks on the President that are largely undeserved, such as accusing him of hating black people and holding back FEMA to kill more black people, and you wanting to fight your own countrymen in some kind of crazed civil war, it certainly does not make me want to run out and vote straight ticket Democrat.
The guy who writes this blog should delete a lot of the comments from both sides. There’s not much here other than hate.
Oh, here’s a good quote from one of today’s news stories:
” … some of the firefighters, like Thomas Blomgren of Battle Creek, Mich., have waited at the hotel for four days. Now he and colleague Steven Richardson have been told they could be dispatched to a relief camp in South Carolina rather than help the devastated Gulf Coast. ‘FEMA hired the best of the best firefighters, got them together and gave them secretary jobs,’ Blomgren said ….”
The reason I’m not linking it is because it’s from the AOL news service and some HA readers have complained they can’t open AOL links. Anyway, this paragraph speaks for itself.
(For those of you with AOL, you can see this story at http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/new.....5509990007)
Reply to 123
Post #1 and #2 are tongue in cheek. I just took what they said about Clinton, turned it 180 degrees, and gave it back to them. Does that answer your question?
Posts like this are not designed to be taken seriously. Anyone who has been reading this blog for a while will be aware of that. Rather, by parroting the right wingers, I hope to demonstrate how silly THEY look.
How did I overlook that? Yes, ASS supports terrorists! Every time he dumps another $60 of gas into his SUV, he’s buying another crate of C-4 for Iraqi suicide bombers! -Comment by Roger Rabbit— 9/7/05 @ 11:19 pm
Sorry sweetcheeks, don’t have one, never have, never will.
We drive superiorly engineered foreign cars… however, given the usury tax situation in this 3rd rate state, we NEVER buy new. Right now have two 94’s and one 84 in the ‘foreign luxury’ category.
I’d bet we get better, cleaner, more efficient mileage than that roach motel you have.
On the other hand, Mr. McDonald, if they really mean to come after liberals with intent to inflict bodily harm, I’m ready for them. The Rapture will arrive early for anyone who tries it.
@125
Get rid of that foreign junk and buy yourself some American Iron, cheapskate.
Roger Rabbit buys a Made In USA by union labor pickup truck, yessir. You can bet your best Stetson hat on it.
And I ain’t a-kiddin’ neither.
Ass @ 125 Riiiight. Now get off the computer so your dad can get some work done…
JDB, my point is that no one is spitting on soldiers. -Comment by Roger Rabbit— 9/7/05 @ 11:25 pm
Come up for air bunny butt:
‘Code Pink’ protestors target Walter Reed Medical Center
A metaphorical spit may be marginally cleaner than saliva (especially the foul-mouthed liberal saliva, but I digress) but it is still a spit.
Real Americans drive Detroit Iron. Fake Americans drive foreign junk.
Reply to 131
Depends on what the meaning of “is” is, and in your case, “is” has a pretty loose definition by your own admission.
(For those of you who don’t know what “metaphorical” means, it’s a big word that right-wingers use to say something is true when it isn’t.
Ass @ 125 Riiiight. Now get off the computer so your dad can get some work done… -Comment by fire_one— 9/7/05 @ 11:39 pm
MY DAD is a 78 year old Army veteran, sitting in his Florida home dreading the 3rd anniversary (Sept 10) of the sudden, unnecessary death his beloved wife of 51 years, with whom he raised 3 children, all of whom have long marriages, no divorces, alcoholism, drugs, unwanted pregnancies or bastard children like you.
I recently celebrated 26 years of marriage to the VERY SAME PERSON, spent a weekend in May at our oldest childs law school graduation and another weekend in May at our 2nd childs WSU graduation (fortunately NOT at the ceremony the illegitimate queen spoke).
Someday, you little snot nosed punk, you may grow up to appreciate such accomplishments.
ASS – Riiiiiiiiight. Now go get a life. I hear they are on sale a Wal-mart.
You disgusting little prick – you are calling me a liar about MY DEAD MOTHER 2 days BEFORE the anniversary of her death.
You really are a reprehensible example of human DNA gone horribly wrong.
I pity you.
ASS – Yaaaawn. Make up whatever shit you like. We all know you never had a mother….
fire_one:
We are the most powerful army ever. Sadly, our leaders are not doing everything they can to protect our soldiers:
“Sen. Tim Johnson, D-S.D., has written a letter to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld expressing concern about the quality of body armor used by U.S. troops in Iraq.
The letter was written in response to the recent report that the Defense Department is having difficulty providing upgraded body armor to troops, according to a news release from Johnson’s office.
“The strength and persistence of the insurgency in Iraq makes replacing outdated body armor for our troops an absolute imperative,” Johnson said in the release. ”
http://www.rapidcityjournal.co.....news11.txt
Just one of many articles. We have been at war for four years, and still Bush has asked for no sacrifice (other than give up our civil liberties, but, then again, he didn’t really ask), and Rumsfeld still hasn’t worked out his supply chain. Any other president would have fired the Sec. of Def. a long time ago. Here, he is probably another Medal of Freedom receipent in the making.
Roger Rabbit:
Of course liberals love our troops. The right wing wants to ignore all those injured troops in the hospital, just as they want to prevent us from seeing photos of the dead in New Orleans. My point was simply that even if ProudtobeAnAss was randmoly right, he should look at the cause, not the symptom. But I appreciate you setting both him and me right.
Reprehensible little bastard.
I sincerely hope you remember this the day YOUR MOTHER dies.
JDB – You may be correct that even “Ass” can be right at random intervals, it just never occured to me… Kind of like putting 1000 monkeys in a room with 1000 typewriters. Eventually one of them will write a Shakespearean sonnet…
… except that ASS is not really as smart as a monkey, so it would take about 1,000,000 of them…
You know fire, I’m going to give you a bit of free advice.
There are time when you would be best served to politely quiet down (such as when one is talking about dealing with the unexpected loss of a loved one); there are some subjects that cannot and should not be trivialized by smarmy remarks or witty repartee. I would suggest to you that you learn that lesson, because until you do you will be looked down upon as the immature child you present yourself to be. It is one thing to be hateful in politics; it is quite another to be so viciously hateful and lacking in basic humanism that you mock another persons loss. While you may believe yourself to be entertaining, and at times you are, you will never be considered knowledgeable (in the way Rabbit is) or taken seriously (again, when he wants to be, Rabbit).
Have a good night.
Comment on 140
I can’t for the life of me figure out what ASS’s mother has to do with this discussion. In any case, My sincerest condolences, ASS. My mother is dead, too, and the anniversary of her death is this month, so I share your pain.
If we could get back on topic now, what business do you have sending your kid to law school, and what gives you the right to inflict yet another lawyer on our society? … Reprehensible bastard.
I meant you, not your kid. Your kid doesn’t know any better. But your kid will learn soon enough the U.S. already has too fucking many lawyers.
Roger @ 124: “by parroting the right wingers, I hope to demonstrate how silly THEY look.”
What a waste. You Lefties are so used to being without original ideas, you forget that looking silly is the one thing you ARE good at!
DJ @ 19: “…local politicians there don’t work for me… I am far, far more interested in discussing the failures at the federal level.”
Fair enough. And I would agree that there is plenty of blame to go around. However, putting ALL of it on the shoulders of the White House is wrong. Did you see the AP photo of the lot full of school busses sitting tire-deep in flood waters? How many lives could have been saved?
It is entirely appropriate to be critical of the government’s handling of the situation, but I liken the New Orleans situation to the idea of contributory negligence and unwillingness to mitigate circumstances. The Governor of Louisiana fiddled while N’awlins residents died.
“If anything Goldy’s posts have been increasingly original. I mean, really, he only broke a story that has become an international media story in the last week.”
What story did HE break? And read the post this thread is from. It is merely Goldy’s comments on someone else’s comments on another blog… Not too original.
Hey — I have a lawyer joke!
A lawyer was watching Sunday afternoon football when the pipe under the kitchen sink sprang a leak. His wife immediately started nagging him to fix it, so the lawyer called Joe the Plumber.
Joe came out about two hours later, puttered under the sink for 15 minutes, then said “she’s fixed” and handed the lawyer a bill for $600.
“What the hell!” the lawyer exclaimed. “Why are you charging me $600.00?”
Unruffled, Joe the Plumber replied, “I’m a union plumber, so I get $100 an hour, except I have to charge double the rate on Sundays, or the union will fine me. It took me an hour to go to the shop to get tools and parts, another 45 minutes to drive here, 15 minutes to install the new pipe, and it will take me an hour to get back home. That’s three hours. Multiply that by $200 an hour, you owe me $600.”
“That’s ridiculous!” the lawyer said. “I’m the most prominent attorney in the county, and I can’t get away with charging $200 an hour.”
“Yeah, it’s a bitch, I know what you mean,” Joe the Plumber replied. “I couldn’t get away with charging $200 an hour either, back when I was practicing law.”
It’s time play, “What’s Stefan up to?”
(Some time ago, Stefan decided Roger Rabbit is Dean Logan. I’m not Dean Logan, but rather than confuse Stefan with facts, I take the path of least resistance and humor him. As Dean Logan is director of King County elections, and Stefan is a poll worker, I’m Stefan’s superviser. Stefan needs a LOT of supervising, trust me! You’ll see what I mean below.)
to be continued …
Item 1 – “Gregoire endorses I-912!” – Stefan Sharansky
Uh … no. http://www.thestranger.com/sea.....?oid=22844
(What do you expect from a serial liar who can’t even spell his own name right?)
While we’re on the subject of gas taxes, the cockamamie GOP plan to suspend gas taxes for 3 months to give drivers a break at the pump requires rebuttal. Besides hurting Washington’s road infrastructure even more than it’s already hurting, do you understand what what will happen if the state suspends the gas tax to make gas 31 cents a gallon cheaper? The oil companies will raise their price 31 cents, that’s what, because the pump price is set by supply and demand, and will go as high as it must to make people to cut back on gasoline consumption until demand is in balance with the limited supply.
Item 2 – “There are no contested Republican primary races in my part of the county, so I will mark the Democrat part of my ballot and vote for Karen Rispoli, who the Weekly describes as ‘a former jail guard …. ” – Stefan Sharansky
Here we have Stefan, an avowed right-wing Republican, publicly admitting he intends to sabotage the nominating process of a party he despises by voting for a nut job.
What do you expect from an asshole like him?
Item 3 – Stefan criticized Dean Logan for hiring election workers with skills instead of partisan hacks. He said, “Dean Logan has ended a long-standing Elections office policy to hire both Republican and Democrat party designees … [h]is excuse was particularly lame: “we filled the recuritment positions based on demonstrated skill [using the new election management computer system] and background without regard for party affiliation.”
Of course, Stefan’s greatest fear is that King County may hire competent people for its elections department, which would put Stefan and his blog, Sucky Politics, out of business.
ASS – since you are the only one who ever mentioned your mother, maybe you should go reprimand yourself. Spin, spin, spin, that’s all the RepubliCons do. But I will tell you this; you should be ashamed at using your mothers death as political fodder…. But I shouldn’t be surprised… After all, you use the death of many of my comrades as political fodder….
Item 4 – Stefan went on record today opposing health care for Americans.
He says a Seattle City Council move to ask voters to endorse “the principle that everyone in the U.S. should have ‘the right to health care of equal high quality.’” is “silly” and promised to help find someone to write a voter’s pamphlet statement opposiing “this idiotic money-wasting ballot measure.”
I guess Stefan believes health care should be limited to the deserving rich.
And with that, I am outta here… Adios mi amigos…
Well that’s the Sucky Politics wrapup for tonight, and since I work the graveyard shift, it’s time for me to log off. I’m gonna hop over to Stefan’s place and eat his garden, and shit on his lawn, as I do every night. See you guys again tomorrow.
Oh, before I go, one more thing — I’m surprised Mark the Red Neck hasn’t weighed in here about ASS’s kid becoming a lawyer by pointing out that our socialist student financial aid programs that make it possible for nearly everyone to go to college* has resulted in our country having more lawyers than barbers.
* If they let Mark in, they’ll let anyone in.
Roger @ 154: “I’m gonna hop over to Stefan’s place and eat his garden, and shit on his lawn, as I do every night.”
What is sad about this is that it is true. Except the “rabbit” part. Instead, Stefan will likely find that his yard now reeks of pot, patchouli and B.O. — courtesy of RR and his merry band of aging hippies seeking to relive their misspent youth.
rujax206@84
See you only enforce my earlier posts…
Roger Rabbit@89
That is because the libs in charge let shit snowball to this point…
Roger Rabbit@90
Yes, if he doesnt declare an emergency…as according to law.
Roger Rabbit@91
FEMA responded when a state of emergency was declared. FEMA is not intended to be a jerk knee primary response, it is a secondary response after local response has been not enough…AFTER.
Proud Ass–
These LEFTIST PINHEADS are all jealous when someone comes from a great family and keeps there own family together thru thick and thin. I’ll bet most of them have a string of failed mariages and relationships….that’s why they are so dysfunctional.
Sorry about your Mom.
My Dad died 8 years ago….unfortunately he was a smoker (2 packs of camels per day) and only 67. My mom is in excellent health though…Praise God!
roger; criticizing Stefan for favoring limited gov’t (aka no mandated right for health care)
I’d like my nightly beer to be a right, something the state owes me. Just like British navy gets its daily grog, we too deserve same.
While youre at it, how about also free pot for all?
Of course my dad would prefer free daily DVDs (why isn’t his Netflix a right?)
156-
What was that chuckywucky?
Roger Rabbit @ 122
‘Republicans, on the other hand, hate the military and especially hate serving in it.’
That is why the vast majority of military personnel and their families vote Republican, and the dems try to suppress the miltary ballots whenever possible. The dems cannot help dropping rabbit pellets on the troops in their quest to tar GW. Hate the war, support the troops. Yea right.
If you are going to make stuff up please be more creative.
Worst. President. Ever.
“President George W. Bush’s overall response to Katrina meets with disapproval today – a dramatic change from the public’s reaction just after the storm hit on August 29th. Last week, in the two days immediately after Katrina made landfall, a majority of Americans said they approved of Bush’s response, although more than a third were not sure. Now, only 38% approve. A majority disapproves.” (from CBS News)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....4591.shtml
“And now i’m freeeeee
Free Fallin’ (free fallin’ I’m free fallin’}
And now i’m freeeeee
Free Fallin’ (free fallin’ I’m free fallin’}” Tom Petty
Roger Rabbit @ 149
‘The oil companies will raise their price 31 cents, that’s what, because the pump price is set by supply and demand, and will go as high as it must to make people to cut back on gasoline consumption until demand is in balance with the limited supply.’
Should WA or the Feds instead raise the gas taxes for a while to reduce demand and wait for the supplies to catch up? Would that speed up the balancing process? Would that force the oil companies to reduce their wholesale prices instead?
rujax206 @ 164
Wasn’t CBS the one that predicted Kerry would win in 2004 by 5-10 points?
How ’bout “Zogby”…dumbshit.
“Overall, how would you rate President Bush’s performance on the job?”
Excellent/Good: 40%
Fair/Poor: 59%
rujax206 @ 172
Other polls show GW getting better:
http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....proval.htm
And GW is still polling better than Gregoire (47th best):
http://www.surveyusa.com/50gov.....051005.htm
@168
Yes, I acknowledge the vast majority of military families vote Republican — it’s a mystery.
@ 173
However, you are correct, almost none of the Republican leadership actually served.
I do like the idea of the Arkansas National Guard recalling GWB so he could finally serve his time. Now, that would be justice.
I mean really, No Wonder, look at what kind of leaders they vote for — Dick Cheney, 5 deferments, never served; George Bush, AWOL from National Guard during wartime; virtually none of the Republicans in Congress served in the military, and many went out of their way to evade the draft to avoid Vietnam — not the kind of personal record that’s very compatible with the values most military folks purport to profess.
On the other hand, Republicans do not hesitate to savage actual veterans when it suits their political purposes — McCain, Cleland, Kerry, etc.
No Wonder, the conclusion is inescapable that military people who vote Republican do so because they’re Republicans, not because they’re military people. They vote Republican DESPITE the fact the Republican leaders they vote for have sorry personal records of draft avoidance and non-service to their country, and DESPITE the anti-military voting record these people have in Congress.
But you are probably mistaken to assume that all military people vote Republican. At the Democratic county caucus last year, I met a young soldier just returned from Iraq who told me the officers and NCOs are heavily Republican but in the enlisted ranks it’s about 50-50. That was my experience in Vietnam, as well — we had some real conservative, real gung-ho guys who came into the military as Republicans and left the military as Republicans, but certainly not everyone in my unit’s ranks was a military lifer, a southern conservative, a Republican, or pro-war. Only some of them were.
In my opinion, being a Republican is nothing to be proud of. Being an ultra-nationalist, being willing to go to foreign lands and kill people there just because our country can, is nothing to be proud of. Systematically torturing innocent civilians of those countries — and then defending such a policy when you’ve been caught — is nothing to be proud of. Thinking we have a right to take oil or other resources from other peoples by force, simply because we want it, is nothing to be proud of. Lying is nothing to be proud of. Calling your fellow Americans “traitors” is nothing to be proud of. Sending our young people into battle with little or no armor is nothing to be proud of. Supporting a policy of railroading wounded soldiers into early discharges so the military won’t be responsible for their medical care is nothing to be proud of. Cutting veterans benefits is nothing to be proud of.
Republicans have brought shame and dishonor to themselves and our country. I don’t understand why anyone would admit to being a Republican, much less brag about it, or pretend to be proud of it. Being a Republican is NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF, it’s dishonorable.
rujax @ 172
I agree, the Zogby numbers are pretty appalling:
http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1020
They give a pretty good analysis. (I’d still like to see a detailed breakdown, though.)
@170
“Should WA or the Feds instead raise the gas taxes for a while to reduce demand and wait for the supplies to catch up? Would that speed up the balancing process? Would that force the oil companies to reduce their wholesale prices instead?”
Good question, and I’m glad you asked.
What do Americans do when fuel is cheap? They burn it frivolously. They buy gas guzzlers and drive them on late-night hops to the convenience store for a pack of cigarets or a 6-pack of beer. They move to the exurbs, build big houses that need a lot of heating, and commute, 1 person to a vehicle, long distances every day.
The problem with this is that America doesn’t have enough oil to feed this frenzied demand. Not nearly enough. We have to buy 60% of our oil (the percentage rises every year) from foreigners, and no small part of it from our enemies.
A decade ago, Al Gore was mocked by people on your side for suggesting a 50-cent federal tax on gasoline to curb demand. Our country didn’t do that, and guess what — since then, oil producers have imposed a $2.00 private tax on the same gasoline. That money is not going into federal coffers to reduce a government deficit that will lead to higher interest rates, higher unemployment, and higher inflation. It’s going to foreigners, who use it to make themselves the owners of our companies, our real estate, and our economy. More and more Americans are working for them, instead of American business owners. Some of it is going to our enemies, who are using it to finance wars and terrorism against us.
How smart is that?
When demand for a commodity exceeds the supply, prices will rise until consumers reduce their demand to fall in line with supply, or increased investment increases supply to meet demand, or a combination of the two.
Right now, the limit to gasoline supply is two-fold: Limited refining capacity, and a ceiling to the world’s oil pumping capacity, which now for the first time in history is at 100% production with no usable excess capacity anywhere in the world to meet increased demand. This means gasoline prices will rise until consumers limit their consumption. It’s immaterial whether the price increase is government taxes or oil refiner profits. The supply-demand imbalance determines the pump price; whether government taxes gasoline simply determines who gets what portion of the pump price determined by market forces.
If Al Gore’s mocked-and-reviled 50-cent gas tax were in place, that’s 50 cents a gallon less that would be going to oil producing countries and refining/distributing companies, and 50 cents more that would be going into a federal treasury that’s running half-trillion-dollar deficits.
Al Gore was right; his critics were wrong.
Yeah, I think the feds should raise gas taxes to help pay for Bush’s war — shared sacrifice, ya know? In World War 2, we had rationing, and the home front supported the troops. Bush isn’t supporting the troops with what they need, and he isn’t asking the home front to do squat for the troops. He’s putting his war on a credit card, same as LBJ did, and the same thing will happen — high interest rates, high unemployment, high inflation. Part of the demand side of the equation is the Iraq war is soaking up large amounts of fuel — wars are oil gluttons. What’s needed is for American consumers to cut back on their wartime fuel consumption. If they don’t, prices will rise, until high prices forces consumers to adjust their consumption to the available supply.
I have very little sympathy for the people complaining about high gas prices, even though I’m hurt by it, too. Americans brought the high gas prices on themselves with their profligate consumption behavior when gas was cheap. Ironically, it’s high gas prices that will be the political undoing of the GOP. Americans have this arrogant notion of possessing a God-given right to cheap gas, and will turn on the politicians they think took it away from them. What a stupid reason to vote out a party that has given us so many good reasons for voting them out, but if the GOP loses, it will be because of gas prices. How ironic.
Listen to KVI – 570 AM Sean Hannity does expose at 2:00 PM Hr (2:06 after commercials) on how the LA-NG blocked the Red Cross from the SuperDome.
OOOH, Sean Hannity! Here, let me give you some real reporting in comparision:
Louisiana National Guard Offers Help By Phone From Iraq
BAGHDAD—The 4,000 Louisiana National Guardsmen stationed in Iraq, representing over a third of the state’s troops, called home this week to find out what, if any, help they could offer Katrina survivors from overseas. “The soldiers wanted to know if they could call 911 for anyone, or perhaps send some water via FedEx,” said Louisiana National Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Pete Schneider. The Guardsmen also “would love to send generators, rations, and Black Hawk helicopters for rescue missions,” but, said Schneider, “we desperately need these in Iraq to stay alive.” Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld praised the phone support, but noted that it would take months to transfer any equipment from Iraq to New Orleans, saying, “You fight a national disaster with the equipment you have.”
Government Relief Workers Mosey In To Help
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FEMA representatives call out to survivors, “Show us your tits for emergency rations!”
NEW ORLEANS—Federal Emergency Management Agency director Michael Brown, leading a detachment of 7,500 relief workers, moseyed on down to New Orleans Monday afternoon. “Well, I do declare, it’s my job to see if any of these poor folks need any old thing,” Brown said from his command rocker on the command post porch, adding, “Mighty hot day, ain’t it?” Follow-up teams of emergency relief workers are expected to begin ambling into the Gulf Coast region as early as this weekend. “They should be getting the trucks good and warmed up anytime now, and they’ll be cruising into town just as soon as all the reservists stroll in,” said Brown, who is currently at his desk awaiting offers of food, water, and evacuation buses to roll in from “somewhere or other.”
Refugees Moved From Sewage-Contaminated Superdome To Hellhole Of Houston
HOUSTON—Evacuees from the overheated, filth-encrusted wreckage of the New Orleans Superdome were bussed to the humid, 110-degree August heat and polluted air of Houston last week, in a move that many are resisting. “Please, God, not Houston. Anyplace but Houston,” said one woman, taking shelter under an overpass. “The food there is awful, and the weather is miserable. And the traffic—it’s like some engineer was making a sick joke.” Authorities apologized for transporting survivors to a city “barely better in any respect,” but said the blistering-hot, oil-soaked Texas city was in fact slightly better, and that casualties due to gunfire would be no worse.
White Foragers Report Threat Of Black Looters
NEW ORLEANS—Throughout the Gulf Coast, Caucasian suburbanites attempting to gather food and drink in the shattered wreckage of shopping districts have reported seeing AfricanAmericans “looting snacks and beer from damaged businesses.” “I was in the abandoned Wal-Mart gathering an air mattress so I could float out the potato chips, beef jerky, and Budweiser I’d managed to find,” said white survivor Lars Wrightson, who had carefully selected foodstuffs whose salt and alcohol content provide protection against contamination. “Then I look up, and I see a whole family of [African-Americans] going straight for the booze. Hell, you could see they had already looted a fortune in diapers.” Radio stations still in operation are advising store owners and white people in the affected areas to locate firearms in sporting-goods stores in order to protect themselves against marauding blacks looting gun shops
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/40305
JDB: Can you link some MSM sites instead of leftist pinko sites?
A 23-year-old woman tending to her 4-year-old daughter said, “God is punishing New Orleans” for its corruption and crime. – Wow she be black too.
Hey Wabbit if real Americans drive US made cars, then travel to the Boeing Everett parking lot and view the number of foreign cars bought and driven every day by those “union” machinists, mechanics, SPEEA people.
You see I have no beef with unions if they lived their creedo in everyday life. You want American planes purchased? Purchase American cars Boeing union members. Hypocrites!
Also did you hear some silly bitch complaining about recruiters in Seattle City schools yesterday? Such a stoopid rant!!!
“The Shaw Group, a multi-billion-dollar conglomerate, is headed by Jim Bernhard, the current chairman of the Louisiana Democratic Party. Bernhard worked for Democrat Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco’s runoff campaign and served as co-chair of her transition team. Another Shaw executive was Blanco’s campaign manager.” (Michelle Malkin) How much will Blanco get from the $100 million contract? By the way, I hear that Mayor Nagin, after he is relieved of his post, will be managing a school bus company in earthquake prone San Francisco.