As Dino Rossi’s patrons in the business community prepare to charge headlong into the breach in the battle against I-912, it is time to start asking “Where’s Rossi?” on this all important issue.
Sources tell me that the official no campaign, Keep Washington Rolling, has secured $2 million in commitments, mostly from the business community, and that an intensive paid media campaign should be forthcoming by the end of the month. Apparently, I-912 opponents have managed to screw their courage, boistered by recent polls that show the initiative much more vulnerable than expected. But hidden in the details of the polling data is a tidbit that nicely sums up what I-912 is really all about. Pollsters tried pushing a number of issues to sway opinion, but only one managed to substantially swing voters from one side to the other.
The conclusion is clear: if Dino Rossi publicly opposes I-912… it loses.
Of course, this makes perfect sense. John and Kirby cleverly launched I-912 at the peak of their election contest trial ratings-bump, tapping into the anger and disappointment of the hardcore Republican base. This initiative has always been more about sending a message than about rational public policy; it’s about sticking it to “Queen Christine” and the Democrats… consequences be damned. While almost-governor Rossi has never publicly endorsed the initiative, he hasn’t disabused the public of that notion either, passively allowing himself to be adopted as I-912’s martyred patron saint.
Indeed, Rossi has a record of refusing to take positions on a lot of things, a strategy that served him well during the gubernatorial campaign, allowing conservatives and moderates alike to see in him what they wanted to see. True to form, he has remained silent on the Legislature’s package of transportation improvements, the gas tax hike that would fund it… and the initiative that would repeal them both. His hope, I suppose, is that Gov. Gregoire’s administration will collapse in gridlock and voter backlash, clearing the way for a Rossi victory in 2008.
But this strategy has its risks, and it is time for his friends in the business community to clearly spell them out. Businesses overwhelming oppose I-912 because they understand how vital these transportation improvements are to the economy of the region and the state. They understand that if I-912 passes, the only alternative that could possibly enable urban voters to meet their own needs would be to devolve transportation spending to the regional level, a shortsighted and small-picture policy that would transform WA into a state of haves and have-nots, and undermine the stability on which future economic growth depends. Businesses oppose I-912 because they understand that it is recipe for gridlock, both political and actual.
Now his patrons in the business community need to make Rossi understand what they understand. And they need to make him understand that unless he supports them on this vital issue, they won’t be his patrons any longer. They need to ask him… “Where’s Rossi?”
Quite simply, if Dino Rossi wants to be governor, he needs to start displaying the kind of political leadership that is a prerequisite of higher office. Rossi needs to publicly state his position on I-912.
Rossi’s record suggests that he likely does oppose I-912. He was a strong supporter of the “nickel” package that the 2003 Legislature passed in the wake of the failed Referendum 51, and he made improving Washington’s business climate a central theme of his gubernatorial campaign. Well, the business community is speaking loud and clear — to the tune of $2 million — that the transportation package is good for business… so if Rossi is as responsible a politician as his patrons believed him to be, now is the time for him to put his mouth where their money is.
The polling data is clear: if Rossi remains silent, and I-912 passes, he will deserve both the credit and the blame. He is the state GOP’s de facto leader… and the symbolic leader of the No New Gas Tax campaign. It is thus his obligation to set the record straight, and the business community should hold him responsible should he fail to do so — for his continued silence can only be taken as evidence that he values his own political ambitions over the welfare of the people he wants to govern.
I-912 is not about gas prices or accountability or transportation priorities — it is about Dino Rossi — and the future of the transportation package it would repeal pivots solely on his candor.
And so it is time that my friends in the MSM start pushing the question: “Where’s Rossi?”
Consider this Day One of my vigil.
Dino isn’t going to make his position public. And it’s going to be hard to get to him because he isn’t running for office.
Rossi, as usual, is very “French” on the gas tax. Like his ad during the campaign said, “Come on, Washington! Let’s get to work!” Well, Dino, let’s get to work, champ.
Still blindly running interference for the Democrats shortcomings….nice try.
Rossi is not an elected official, but these people are.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/....._912ed.asp
We’re in this transportation mess due to a perpetual lack of leadership.
PS – Do you have any idea what the true cost per trip is for the Sounder Commuter Train?
Goldy–
Yuk! Yuk! Yuk!
The chances of Rossi taking a public stance on this issue when he is not currently an elected official and not currently running for office is pretty close to the same as the Alaskan Viaduct falling down today…..when the day is more than half over!!
Of all people to DEMAND Rossi take a position, you are probably not in a very strong position to influence and consult with Dino. After all….go back and look at what YOU said about him. Why would you even care about Rossi’s position? Why would anyone for that matter at this point in time?
The vast majority of people have made up their minds on this hounddog months ago. These so-called “changing” poll numbers are merely smoke-and-mirrors desperation to get folks to re-evaluate their positions.
I received a polling call on I-912….as did my wife.
We both said we were voting NO!!!!! Yeah, right!
You LEFTIST PINHEADS must soon come to the realization that you are doomed for all eternity to GRIDLOCK HELL until you come up with a more honest plan AND are accountable for the squandering of existing GasTax and other dollars that could be used.
Nice try mountain moron…but this is about the ANTI-ROADS INITIATIVE!
DinoSore is supposed to be such a great fucking leader.
Leaders LEAD, Dino…Do something. Take a stand. What could it hurt?
boring…lame…couldn’t we go skipping thru some goverment wonks resume some more….ooh…ooh…lets play God and ruin someones day. Come on your all just sitting there surfing ebay or porn anyway.
Dan Evans isn’t an elected official, but he has taken a stand. He being a … whats the word… oh yeah… LEADER. So, Commander Douche et al should tkae a note: you can be a Republican and not ruin Western WA.
Cynical and MM should beret-up to fight in faggoty-assed waffle battallion, led by Lt. David “I Beat Up My Mother” Irons, generalled by Gen. Dino “Shifty Injun” Rossi. Oh, by the way, I totally LOVE Injuns, so I’m not rascist. If my great-great-great-great grandchildren ever stumble apon DR bones in Sammamish years from now, they’ll be returned to his tribe: The Gutless Republicans. I think their reservation is the City of Bellevue…..
Cynical @4,
What’s the matter… scared that I’ve got Dino by his short and curlies? If Dino’s got any balls, he’ll take a position. This is what leaders do… they lead!
I-912 is all about Rossi, and you know it. He knows it too. And now his patrons in the business community know it, and they’re going to apply the screws. There’s plenty more shit to hit the fan, and Dino’s going to be covered in it unless he comes forth and public states his opposition to I-912.
It’s interesting how the lefties profess to know what Rossi, and all of his business patrons, are supposedly thinking. Apparently Rossi has a secret plan to dethrone the Governor of King County by not taking a position on 912 – her “administration will collapse into gridlock and voter backlash.” I would submit that Christine Gregoire’s administration will create enough gridlock and voter backlash in the next 3-1/2 years without any help from Dino Rossi or talk radio.
As for business “overwhelming opposition to 912”, could it be that a lot of businesses see themselves as direct beneficiaries of all this tax money? Ask youself this, was any business against the tax and piss-away Sound Transit scam in 1996? Of course not, because there is a lot of money to be made in designing, delaying and eventually building these types of public projects.
isn’t the lack of administrative gridlock the reason I-912 exists?
Well Rossi has his big chance here. I’d almost say that giving an honest non-weasel opinion on the matter is more important for him than what that opinion is. Aren’t the Reps supposed to be the straight-talking ones?
rick@10
You’re really stretchin’ aren’t you? I thought you guys were supposed to be probusiness… Anyways, you’re acting like all of the busniesses that like the tax are construction contractors… which is, of course, insane.
Also, what TJ said.
Oh boy – another HA vigil. Yawn. Must be slow news day. (Again)
Let’s all light candles and sing Kumbaya…….
Boy oh boy, how I hope that Rossi takes the position of Ms. Chickenhawk et al and fails to lead. Assuming he tries to run in ’08, it would be interesting to hear him say I want to lead now, but when it mattered, I didn’t lead.
Sure, that makes him just like GWB, but I don’t think being like GWB is a strong selling point at this point.
The sum of the arguments so far:
Dinosore, Gen. Dino ‘Shifty Injun” Rossi – you better come out and say what we want you to say or, or, or we will call you some more names. Take that.
It is clear that the best strategy that repubs can use is silence. Bush uses it, and we get to watch the dems screaming, jumping up and down, calling names and of course cussing every time the “final pillar” of the GW legacy is crashing down.
I-912 is about Gregoire, not Rossi.
Would I-912 exist if Gregoire had not raised taxes? – NO
Would I-912 exist if Gregoire had shown the courage before the election and gone on the record that taxes needed to be raised? – NO AGAIN
Okay, okay Goldy – you need to chill.
Dino Rossi didn’t take a position on higher education issues :-(. Until after 2 Nov’r.
He also didn’t say until after 2 Nov’r that he “supports eliminating the state’s Growth Management Hearings Board, which makes decisions about land-use disputes.”
Rossi will speak when he has to. Oh and FYI: Mary “Marummy” Lane supports 912. I need not say more.
While on the subject of Rossi and Marummy…
http://www.honestelectionsproject.com/ is where you can get a petition for an elected auditor!
mountain man@17
You are right – 912 is about Mini-Hillary, not Rossi.
Why don’t you report something of actual news, like Maria Cantwell proposing price caps on gasoline? Now there’s leadership we can all use! I want to spend my life sitting in gas lines, how about you?
The sad part is that the Republicans won’t be able to muster someone to run against this lame politician.
Janet and Goldy
Speaking of communists, how about Maria price capping my beer? Why the heck to i have to pay $8 for a decent six-pack….and all six packs are priced the same (bud for $5, good stuff for $8…feels like price fixing to me).
When will she propose caps on Latte prices? Man, its $4 for my morning latte.
Get over it- hyperbole, and name calling are all in a days work, whether you is an R or a D. Remember Alex Deccio R-Yakima saying “nigger in the woodpile” or equating embrionic stem cells with the Holocaust? Or that looney guy from Dooval threatening to “take out centain members of the legislature” because of property rights issues? And not to dinner, beyotch.
Not to mention John Kerry being called a liars after serving in Vietnam, and then opposing the war. Prepare for it: Gregoire won’t get swift boated over the highway bill by Rossi, especially if Rossi is silent at such an important time as this.
We should follow Dan Savage’s advice and just call the viaduct the Alaskan Way Levee. It’ll get money fo’ sho’.
Swift Boat Vets For Universal Healthcare @ 24
‘Not to mention John Kerry being called a liars after serving in Vietnam,..’
Don’t you mean Cambodia?
I-912 is going to pass because of the way Gregoire et.al. enacted the tax increase. People are simply mad. This shouldn’t be news to anyone.
Well, he did more than W did, who kept the skies of E. Texas safe form the VC.
Swift Boat Vets For Universal Healthcare @ 23
‘..equating embrionic stem cells with the Holocaust’
You would have to think the unborn child is a person rather than a blob of flesh to see the understatement in the Holocaust reference.
Swift Boat Vets For Universal Healthcare @ 28
‘Well, he did more than W did…’
Let me quote from your comment:
‘Not to mention John Kerry being called a liars after serving in Vietnam’
So, did you mean Cambodia?
Swift Boat Vets seems to sound and post a eerily amount like our furry little pal Roger Rabbit. They are pretty obviously one in the same.
Goldy–
You are a funny little guy! To you, lead means AGREE WITH GOLDY. Rossi is obviously sitting on the sidelines watching Gregoire the Thief suffer thru the chaos of her own making.
That’s what I find quite hysterical Goldy.
I-912 is Gregoire’s making.
She never once in her campaign intimated this huge Gas Tax increase. Goldy is working overtime to deflect the attention away from Gregoire and her actions….to someone who is not an elected official or currently running for anything.
Goldy thinks he has Rossi by the “balls & short curlies”???
Precisely how is that??
If I-912 passes, as it most likely will….Gregoire has a heavy, heavy cross to bear….it will likely crush her 3 years from now.
Gregoire’s dishonesty with voters will certainly resonate more strongly than Rossi not weighing in to the I-912 fray…AND YOU KNOW IT GOLDY!!!
But keep trying Goldy. Does your head hurt yet?? From beating it against the wall???
Not the same, fo’ shizzle dizzle.
There he is Ms Chickenhawk aka Mr. Cynical.
You shit bag coward.
Disrespect any Gold Star mothers lately?
Running down any crosses of fallen US soldiers?
You’re the worst kind of scum there is on the face of the planet.
You Yellow Elephant turncoat! You traitor!
Cynical @ 31
I can see the campaign add now.
It will start with a clip of her saying “I will not raise taxes”
Then the multiple choice quiz pops up on the screen.
When Gregoire made that statement, she was
A. Being Dishonest
B. Out of touch with the State’s Financial Situation
C. “She a Flip Flopper”
GBS-33
Six sentences and not one refutation. Going for a HA record?
Karl Rove and GW have taught us that Republican “leadership” is all about winning elections, not governing responsibly. They have taught us that elections are won by fearmongering, playing bait-and-switch (“I’m a uniter, not a divider”), and shamelessly pandering to the fundamentalists. And, they have taught us that once elected, the applicable governing principles are rewarding supporters, rewarding supporters, and rewarding supporters. Rossi, who is incapable of the type of creative vision that makes for good leaders, most surely follows the model which Rove and GW have constructed.
proud lefty;
My brain was doing a search and replace on your post; put Clinton’s name in there and your post is accurate, though he pandered to the abortionists, other lefties.
If anybody on HA knows anything about being a coward, It’s GBS!
So tell me pal, SPECIFICALLY! What branch of the armed forces did you serve in and what missions and/or deployments did you personally participate in? Rather than a chickenhawk, there is no doubt in anybodies mind that you are just a chicken. AKA, p***y liberal pacifist with the IQ of an everyday junkie.
Goldy sez:”Quite simply, if Dino Rossi wants to be governor, he needs to start displaying the kind of political leadership that is a prerequisite of higher office. Rossi needs to publicly state his position on I-912.”
The simple response, and the correct one is …No he doesn’t. He can wait this out, take office on 2008 and then present a highly detailed plan, fically sound budgets, timelines and other details that specifically state what the increase will pay for. Gregoire’s problem, and my problem with the tax, is that based upon the current “plan” of trust us, there’s not a bank in the world who would offer financing at this point in time
Re Janet @ 21
This Blog is Goldies audition for the DNC Chair once Dean implodes again. You’re in the wrong place for thoughtful discussion and analysis. All you’ll see is attempts to make democrats look good and republicans look bad.
Here’s a prefect example. I’ve lost count of the number of posts slamming FEMA and therefore GWB. Do you think he has ever wondered why nobody complained about FEMA’s role in Florida when 4 Hurricanes hit a year ago. What’s the difference? State and Local preparation and execution of a disaster plan. Since the Gov and Mayor of NOLA are democrates they are clearly without responsibility so it’s all FEMA’s fault.
But, it is his blog and he’s never claimed to be even remotely objective, fair or balanced.
Yo 2 cents,
Um, the main difference is lots and lots of wealthy white people, an impending Presidential election, and a little brother in the Governor’s office.
Other than that, the situations are exactly the same, at least to a peabrain such as yourself.
proud leftist @36–
So Rossi isn’t a visionary and Gregoire is???
Gregoire says nothing about a major GasTax increase…then gets elected and immediately is for a huge increase.
Is that your idea of a “true visionary”?? YIKES!!
Sounds more like Gregoire is a dishonest dungheap to me!
Goldy and you other LEFTIST PINHEADS can blab all you want about Greoire being some “visionary” with this from left-field GasTax monsterous increase.
I-912 will let you know what kind of visionary the voters think she is!!!
Oh and another thing to keep in mind…there are plenty of folks that will vote NO on I-912 that will never vote for Gregoire….EVER! But I’ll bet there are few that vote YES on I-912 that will turn around and vote for Gregoire.
Gregoire has revealed her TRUE COLORS.
TAX AND SQUANDER LEFTIST PINHEAD!!!
Every problem we have could be solved if voters were not so damn selfish with their hard-earned money….right???
Give all your money to Gregoire and your life will be rosey!!!!
Gregoire is a LEFTIST PINHEAD LOSER!
Nothing you dickweeds say or do will help her regain any respect from the majority of Washington voters.
Her next 3 years will be a nightmare!!!
Proud Leftist @ 36
“Karl Rove and GW have taught us that Republican “leadership” is all about winning elections, not governing responsibly. etc”
The Democrats aren’t any different in their idea of “leadership”.
Moonbats and especially Goldy – Stop beating your head against the wall. 912 is gonna pass by at least 15 points. There ain’t a fucking thing you can do about it. Tell all the lies you want. Call it what it ain’t. Get PI to write stupid crap. Ain’t gonna matter. None of it. People are pissed off about decades of gummint waste. Until there is fundamental reform, the bank is closed.
“Where’s Rossi?” I-912 swing vote hinges on Dino
I will vote for I-912 whether Rossi endorses it or not. My vote doesn’t hinge on him. What he endorses might decide if I vote for him if he runs for office in 2008, but since we are 100% sure the incumbent opposes I-912, it isn’t like I’m going to vote for her instead based on this issue.
Anybody know where Wabbit is? He at least does a good job articulating the minority opinion. He said a while ago he had health issues. Anybody know if he’s OK?
The simple response, and the correct one is …No he doesn’t. He can wait this out, take office on 2008 and then present a highly detailed plan, fically sound budgets, timelines and other details that specifically state what the increase will pay for.
And at that point land costs and labor costs will both have increased, so we’ll end up spending far more money on the same projects. Why are you in favor of government waste?
So,
On the subject of Gregoire and her Visions and Promises.
Whatever happened to the Mid level management lay-offs?
Wasn’t that supposed to save all of us a bunch of money and “Bring Accountability” back to Olympia?
As to Cynicals remarks, He is absolutely right. When I-912 kills the gas tax, Gregoire has exhausted all her options.
NoWonder @ 29 “You would have to think the unborn child is a person rather than a blob of flesh to see the understatement in the Holocaust reference.”
A stem cell is as much an unborn child as the boogers beneasth your finger nails, NoBrains.
Donnageddon @ 48
Who said a stem cell by itself is a child? I was referring to whether an embryo, killed to extract stem cells, is a person. If it is a person then we are killing people to further science. And, if the unborn child is a person, all of the abortions since Roe v. Wade blow the Holocaust away.
Rossi has absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose by taking a stand on ANYTHING today… which is exactly why the fringies are so anxious to have him do so.
If his plan is to sit back and let the illegitimate queen implode, he is succeeding quite nicely.
When his time comes around again, as it more certainly will, he will have volume of lies, flipflops and obfuscations made by the illegitimate queen while she will have only her record to prove him right.
Smart man, our Dino.
prr@47—
There were no lay-offs.
It was a complete shell-game.
All Gregoire’s Losers did was change job titles from “Manager” to some other bullshit title.
No decrease in salary.
No real change in serving the public.
SMOKE-AND -MIRRORS!!!
Gregoire’s specialty!!!
Goldy reminds me of a “father” that convinced his girlfreind to have an abortion, and now wants to know how his “son” would feel about abortion. It is now a moot point, your biased judge has effectivly “aborted” Rossi, it is now moot. Now next election lets give ‘er a run…ask the next child or “canidate” what to do!
Redneck @44,
I’m normally not a betting man, but if you’re giving away 15 points, I’m on. How much do you want to wager?
And since you’re spouting uninformed, stupid predictions, I’ll put forth an informed one. I-912 will pass or fail within a 6 point margin. See, you’re problem Redneck, is that you make the mistake of thinking that other people actually think like you.
Mr. X.: You woke up from your slumber and posted truths? Have you visited Florida since the hurricanes passed through? No I didn’t think so. If so, many whites would be complaining about GW Bush sending the hurricane through retirement areas with double wide trailers, single wide trailers, and houses built before the new hurricane standards took effect. Again, like Headlice-up-it’s-ass Lucite you make stoopid comments without looking at the hurricane tracks. My sons god-parents live in the Port Charlotte / Punta Gorda area, and it’s a lower middle class retirement area. He lost all of his fruit trees and almost lost his car. He had house damage. He’s been retired for 10 years. Our nephew lives in the Port St. Lucie area. He isn’t rich and he ain’t white and he lost most of his roof and had house damage.
So Hurricane Charley went through rich white areas?
So Hurricane Frances went through rich white areas?
So Hurricane Ivan went through rich white areas?
So Hurricane Jeanne went through rich white areas?
I suggest you look at the tracks where these hurricanes went in Florida Mr. X. But then the truth would wreck your hatred mantra!!!
Off-Topic but ROFL
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.....77477.jpg#
Bush: “I think I may need a bathroom break …” (note written to Condi Rice at U.N. Security Council meeting. :)
Goldy @ 54
You are probably right. I would predict a six point margin or less either way. Probably with I-912 winning.
Paul Allen will throw in a couple of million dollars for advertising, just like he did when he got us to pay for his fancy new football stadium. The Alaskan Way viaduct replacement includes about $500 million to lower Aurora Avenue north of the Battery Street tunnel to benefit Allen’s south Lake Union development. So we will see some serious cash flow for Keep Washington Rolling ads.
This should narrow the margin from about fifteen points to about six points.
Puddybud@55
“So Hurricane Ivan went through rich white areas?”
Sorry but Ivan only went through th non union white areas! Ivan is a union hack!
Goldy @ 54 – Yer on my friend. See, you’re problem Goldy, is that you make the mistake of thinking that other people actually think like you.
Goldy—@54
I’ll take some of that action….$20!
You say it will be within 6 points….meaning 53-47%.
I say it’s greater than that.
If you win, tell me where to send the $20.
If I win…you send a check for $20 to Tom McCabe @ BIAW.
Is it a bet?
Mark The Redneck–
Roger Rabbit said he is gone for a week.
Seems his wee little testicles have worn out and he needs a transplant.
However, I do believe he is fucking with us from somewhere with his latest invention “Swift Boat Vets for Universal Healthcare”.
They post way too much alike!
Goldy
Today is also day one of my vigil.
When will someone at DOT be held accountable for totally muffing that “stability evaluation” of the rock slope that killed the three young women? Ths isn;t some slope that just sat there “out of sight out of mind” forever. The taxpayers actually sent somebody out there to check it out and the report came back “low risk”.
Still waiting for your scoop on this, BTW.
MTR only in the Seattle environment do they think like Goldy.
What about this? http://www.suntimes.com/output.....ras14.html – Isn’t this the choice of the liberal moby troll donk moonbat crowd? I have no idea what this even looks like. But with a French sounding name I’m sure you lefties wolf this stuff down.
Dino, the governor elect of 2008 (and 2004), can deal with problems that arise in 2008. Let the current governor deal with today’s problems. Chrissy got herself into this mess and she can get herself out. Until then we have a government to watch and initiatives to vote on.
Anyone notice the number of posts are about 25% of last week? Too much filter, or is HA finished?
If you wait for a scoop on that, you’ll wait a long time zip. The only scoop used by Goldy is a shit scoop. Remember those wonderful posts on the DOT by Goldy? To him they walked on water.
Remember donks, everything that happens from here until 2008 in this state is your fault. We are watching you. You better hope no road collapses or bridge falls because it is all your fault.
Puddy–@64–
I actually doubt that Goldy even has a shit scoop for his dog.
Goldy is one of those arrogant Seattle LEFTIST PINHEAD Elite that walk their dog around town and just leave the dogshit sittin’ there for some other LEFTIST PINHEAD to step in!
Also, Goldy could care less about DOT accountability for anything.
Goldy doesn’t care about those 3 dead young women.
Goldy doesn’t care about the $60 million DOT lost on the Pt. Angeles Graving Yard Site.
Goldy is the King of ignorance and apathy…..
Goldy doesn’t know.
And Goldy doesn’t care!
What passes for political “thought” in Seattle does not reflect the rest of the state. The rest of the state makes fun of Seattle’s goofy politics. The pseudo-sophisticates in Seattle think very highly of themselves, but as I’ve mentioned before, it’s just arrogance masquerading as intelligence.
People are pissed. I know of 425,000 people who agree with me. We’re all gonna stand up and shout in November.
Hey Cynical, righton, RUFUS, zip, MTR, Marks, Mark1, RPope, & Chuck (apologies to the righties I missed) I’m down here in the SF area and I picked up a Silicon Valley Metro Paper.
On the back are three ads: Gay Sperm Donors wanted by Lesbians, Jean’s Marijuana Art & Sexually Active Men Wanted. I think I know where Roger Wabbit really went.
Further down is this ad: Erotic Exotic Scented Candles: For pleasure parties, gay pride events and adult entertainment. – Cynical: If you lose, use your $20 to buy Goldy some candles.
Cynical, I was giving Goldy the benefit of the doubt having a shit scoop. How else do you think he comes up with some of his ad hominem attacks on people? I was being nice to their leader.
The last 10 posts or so were all brought to us courtesy of the f*cking vast wingnut mass psychosis.
Wingnuts you may now return to your circle jerk.
what no post yet about, the President and his “note” contents, clearly this points to his handling of FEMA cuz it involves a liquid….
re 21: I thought the problem with gas prices was the lack of facilities to refine enough gas? Are you suggesting that if oil companies aren’t allowed to overcharge there will be sudden “shortages” of gas? Public corporations are permitted to exist because they do something that is in the public interest. Gouging the public does not seem to be in the public’s interest. Therefore their control of this natural resource should be revoked and turned over to the people.
Clueless
You may now return to futilely trying to refute my post 61.
Lucy – If gas prices were lower because of price caps or some kind of kooky “public corporation”, then you’d be burning the gas that I NEED FOR MY SUV. When there’s not enough to go around, prices must go up in order to get the market into equilibrium. I might have to go without so you could have some that you haven’t earned. And that just ain’t right.
Righties: God says you’re all such good boys and He thanks you for the free Starbuck’s you so unselfishly gave him the other day.
In addition, He hates Negro freeloaders as much as you do and realizes it’s all LBJ’s fault…. Pat Robertson was quoted as saying,”Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition so that we can assassinate some people we disagree with.”
Those “best generation” guys (like Robertson… Or is he a “silent generationer”? One could only wish!) are just the best. I’ve just loved all the racism and small-mindedness they’ve inflicted on us our whole lives. That’s just a part of what makes them “the best”!
re 74: “Kooky” public corporations? You’ve just exposed yourself as the uneducated nincompoop I always knew you were. Google : “History of Public Corporations”, and then get back to me with more of your inane revelations.
Riddle: How is Initiative 912 like the Dept of Homeland Security?
Consider this Day One of my vigil. -by Goldy, 09/14/2005, 12:34 PM
Why just a “vigil” (dunno Puddy, doesn’t that sound a tad religious to you?) and why NOT a hunger strike? ;)
912 will pass with a large majority
When given the chance, most Washingtonians will check PAY LESS TAX box.
Head-Up-The-Ass Lucite. You wouldn’t know a Negro freeloader if they found your head (an impossibility). I said I have no respect for Pat Robertson. But the VRA and CRA (during LBJ’s administration) were passed by us nasty Republicans while the donkocrats went racist mode. Can you say Robert “Three Sheets to the Wind KKK” Bird? Proven fact.
And why do we not have enough gas refining facilities? How about NIMBY from lefties who want us all on bicycles, while they fly in private corporate style jets aka Robert Kennedy Jr.? I see the last refinery was built in 1976. Just like you donks who block clean exploration techniques, you donks blocked companies who want to build refineries in other places. Now with Katrina, we see the aftermath of donk blockage.
ProudAss: To a normal righty person a vigil is a religious experience. But, I didn’t take it that way regarding Goldy because we know Goldy and religion are oxymorons. But then again, I remember these lefty candlelight vigils for peace, so you never know about donks.
Clueless, again you are living your Karma. You have nothing to add to the discussion and it passes you by. I know that infuriates you but then again we could compare you to head-up-the-ass lucite!
Puddybud, you’re not a part of the discussion. I revived you by acknowledging you as, DRIBBLYPUD!!!!!!!!
‘NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zip @ 61
‘When will someone at DOT be held accountable for totally muffing that “stability evaluation” of the rock slope that killed the three young women? Ths isn;t some slope that just sat there “out of sight out of mind” forever. The taxpayers actually sent somebody out there to check it out and the report came back “low risk”.’
Additional evaluation of that site was postponed after passage of I-695 in 1999. The program was abandoned because of lack of funds.
re 81: Who do you blame for those old coal burning electricity plants? I see they’re still in operation . Why?
re 82: You’re delusional!
dj
That is total bullshit and you know it. DOT has not made the same claim as you. Read the newspaper.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....de13m.html
“it probably was prepared in the mid-1990s by an engineer at the department’s Yakima regional office. That engineer indicated that falling rocks from Slope 604 were likely to be less than 1 foot in diameter and total less than 3 cubic yards — about 30 percent of a dump-truck load. Rocks were unlikely to reach the freeway’s travel lanes, the engineer wrote. Before the slide early Sunday morning, DOT officials say, they had no reason to question that assessment.”
So you’re telling me 695 turned the 1 foot boulders into car sized boulders?
Puddy @ 55,
Just like you to miss the point – I was talking about the difference in Smirky’s response to the two events, not implying that there wasn’t plenty of carnage in poor and working class areas in the other disasters you cited. Are you really trying to argue that the Bush Administration didn’t move WAY more quickly on an election year hurricane in his brother’s state than he did in NOLA?
Richard @57 – I’d say you’re pretty close on the count – though I’m thinking 912 will have a 7 point win or so.
On the role of Hallivulcan in the anti I-912 campaign/RTID planning, you’ve hit the nail on the head, too. They were early members on the “Citizen’s Leadership Team” or somesuch rubber stamp early in the planning stages of the current AWV effort, and saw to it that their new Mercer/Broad/Aurora scheme was included as part of the initial AWV plan that abandoned the Battery Street Tunnel (the old bad $10 or so billion early version that was sent back to the drawing board). I’m also pretty sure they were the people who suggested to Greg Nickels that some of the proceeds from the Mercer St property sales should go to help pay for the AWV EIS when that had run out of money (I think the figure was $5 million or so)
In any event, while talking to two WSDOT staffers at one of the Viaduct open houses, I straight out said that anyone who was paying attention knew that the only reason the AWV includes anything north of the Battery Street Tunnel (ie – Mercer Street/Aurora lowering) was that they needed Hallivulcan bucks for the RTID campaign, and they just smiled. I think their ultimate punt was that policy makers would determine which alternative was chosen and whether the north Aurora portion would be included.
dj 86
I know a smarty pants like you reads the newspaper but you went ahead and threw the fib out there anyway you worm.
Now that you’re caught in a bald faced lie you’re supposed to call me and all “neo cons” names, according to the script.
Proud@80—
I think that rather than a “vigil” or a “hunger strike”, Goldy should go on a PROZAC strike. That’s it, Goldy refuses to take his daily megadose of PROZAC until Rossi takes a position on I-912!
And the other LEFTIST PINHEADS can join Goldy with a “Pot-Strike”. They will all sign a pledge not to smoke more than 3 bowls full per day until Rossi takes a position on I-912. Now there is a real sacrifice….especially for headless lucy and Donnageddon!
Goldy and dj and other DOT lovers…
Well, are they well managed ? Are we getting our money’s worth? Or did the rock fall because the the 912 publicity generated energy waves that caused the rock to crumble (somehow using the falling rock to bolster your silly case)
Mr. X. If you perform a Google search to the FEMA response to the first hurricane you will see days not hours like you are trying to spew here. After the FEMA people were in Florida helping assess Charley, they were already positioned to move for the next ones which went bang bang bang. Good try Mr. X. You see we have family all over Florida. You can’t bullshit us on stuff you didn’t live through. All you have is Mooron.org conjecture!!!
I know because I was in Georgia working. The Georgia Department of Transportation lost their data center for 18 hours. All of their UPS systems failed due to bad batteries. Why? Because some donkocrat bureaucrat continued to kill the budget for $400,000 in UPS batteries for years. Magically they found the money in reactive mode.
Head-up-de-ass Lucite: Delusional huh? I’d suggest a personal mirror-based review but where your head is only allows you to re-eat your digested food again, hence you can’t see the mirror.
Rossi’s record suggests that he likely does oppose I-912. He was a strong supporter of the “nickel” package that the 2003 Legislature passed in the wake of the failed Referendum 51, and he made improving Washington’s business climate a central theme of his gubernatorial campaign.
Hey wingnuts what do you think about that? Rossi raised your taxes!
At the end of the day Rossi is still the biggest DOOFUS you ever saw. Maybe he should start a political comment show called , THE DOOFUS FACTOR! He could express no firm opinions on a variety of important issues. Especially important issues could be highlighted in THE DOOF ZONE….
Rossi could yell, “Kill his mike!!” to anyone who expressed an understandable position.
Who gives a fuck how Rossi stands on the issue? He is a private citizen, entitled to a secret ballot like the rest of us. You people have way too much fucking time on your hands. And yes, Queen Crissy will get it sticked to her as her arrogant ass so rightfully deserves. Now go run around screaming and flailing your arms; as I-912 will pass. Bo-hoo to you assholes.
5 Million cars, trucks and busses on the road everyday. If they only used 3 gallons at 31.5 cents per gallon tax thats 1.41 BILLIOB a month. And according to Gregoire the feds match that dollar for dollar.
Geez, these roads should be paved with gold by now.
GBS
SERVING AS A CUB MASTER DOES NOT COUNT WHY DONT YOU ANSWER 38
I THINK HE HAS YOUR NUMBER.I THINK YOU YOU PROBLEY WEAR ONE OF THOSE PEASE MEDALS WE TO CALL THOSE THE TRACK OF THE AMERICAN CHICKEN.GET IT DIPSHIT
I’m wondering how day 2 of the vigil that has so much commitment behind it it can’t quite make it to be a hunger strike, is going. Still vigilant there, Goldy?
So Goldy you chickenshit…
Put your money where your mouth is!!!
$20 that I-912 is not within 6 points.
You send the $20 to Tom McCabe @ BIAW if I win.
I send the $20 to any LEFTIST PINHEAD organization you designate if you win.
C’mon you chickenshit Goldy!!
5 Million cars, trucks and busses on the road everyday. If they only used 3 gallons at 31.5 cents per gallon tax thats 1.41 BILLIOB a month. And according to Gregoire the feds match that dollar for dollar.
Washington’s population is a little over 6 million people. You mean to tell me that roughly 80% of the population is driving every day? Or that 80% of the population is even eligible to drive?
The answer to both questions is no. Which is why your “facts” are no such thing.
Bax-102
‘You mean to tell me that roughly 80% of the population is driving every day?’
What about tourists, trucks from other states, etc. Oh, and how about the thousands of people who use way more than 3 gallons per day. These figures are averages. If you have better data as to how much gas and diesel fuel is used per day please present it.