From the latest CNN Poll:
A new poll suggests that George W. Bush is the most unpopular president in modern American history.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Thursday indicates that 71 percent of the American public disapprove of how Bush his handling his job as president.
“No president has ever had a higher disapproval rating in any CNN or Gallup poll; in fact, this is the first time that any president’s disapproval rating has cracked the 70 percent mark,” said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
And…
The poll also indicates that support for the war in Iraq has never been lower. Thirty percent of those questioned favored the war while 68 percent opposed the conflict.
“Americans are growing more pessimistic about the war,” Holland said. “In January, nearly half believed that things were going well for the U.S. in Iraq; now that figure has dropped to 39 percent.”
Gee, I sure hope John McCain keeps running as the candidate who will continue President Bush’s policy in Iraq for another hundred years.
Informal Wingnut Poll:
Are you proud you voted for that chimpanzee twice?
What about Congress’ even lower approval numbers…
Dems take control in 2006 and become…
Worst. Congress. Ever.
The Republicon strategy of fucking the country by stalling congress is well known. Things will improve a lot next year with far fewer Repupliconvicts in office.
Gee this must make the right proud. That and the fact that “Mission Accomplished” apparently doesn’t mean having a fucking clue where Bush family friend Osama bin Laden is seven damn years after he, NOT Saddam, bombed the World Trade Center on Bush’s watch. Wow what a legacy!
2 – Hopelessly confused. That prize goes to the Frist/DeLay Congresses followed almost neck and neck by any Congress where Gingrich was speaker.
@2
I don’t disagree. But what you should be worried about as a Republican is that if you dig down on the polling, the dissatisfaction of Congress does not come from the fact that they’re too far to the left, it comes from the fact that they haven’t done enough to end the war or to fight back against Bush’s economic policy.
6 Lee
Plus party ID in polls is very high for Democrats and the reverse for Republicans. The Congress is going to be more Democratic after this election, and that’s because Democrats == hope for breaking the deadlock and getting done the things America wants done.
I agree with Goldy — the fact that more people disapprove of this president than of any other president since polling began is bad news for McSame.
And fuck Dave Reichert.
It’s funny. I mean, McSame has pretty crappy ideas, but I guess I don’t worry as much about them as I otherwise might because there’s no way that an angry, really old, war-loving Bush supporter is getting elected president this year.
If a Lefty blogger writes and nobody cares, does he even make a sound?
From Politico.com:
“The nation’s top Democrats are suddenly rushing to appear on the Fox News Channel…
Democrats are turning to the ratings leader among cable news channels in a clear rebuff to the liberal activists known as the Netroots.
The Democratic leaders’ new openness to Fox reflects the liberal left’s diminishing power, at least at this point in the political cycle. Once feared by the Democratic candidates, these activists are now viewed at least in part as an impediment to winning the broad swatch of support needed to clinch the nomination.”
I can’t wait to hear Goldy, Kos & the rest with their best Glenn Close immitations:
“I… will… not… be… IGNORED!”
Can you imagine during WWII that only 39% of the population would be in support of the war?
This is our generation’s time to defend America and what have the Republicans done? Turned the War on Terror into a political football and they’ve fumbled.
During WWII Americans rallied to one county, one goal, one mission to accomplish and I mean REALLY accomplish it. No questions asked, just do your duty. That’s Democratic leadership.
During the War on Terror, well, you’ve seen it all ~ Mission Accomplished my ass!!
Republicans cannot lead during times of peace or war. They’ve made war and they have done it poorly and 4,060 of our brave citizens have answered the call of duty and paid the ultimate price for the Republicans failed leadership.
McCain loses in a blow out to Barak and he gets over 300 electoral votes, Senate gets to 57+ seats and more gains for Democrats in the House.
The Democratic primary has been great for our party. We’ve carried our message of hope, honesty, and a return to fiscal policies of the 90’s that made us strong. Yep, 2008 will go down in the history books as a sea change election year that neutered the Republican Party for decades.
Good luck with your cynicism.
NAMBLA @ 8
And the Jeopardy question for $500 is: “DL’s secret fantasy is to slather himself in cooking oil and…”
You can feel free to express your desires @ 8, but won’t your cub get jealous? And isn’t Reichert about 45 years older than your usual
victimsliaisons?Well at least Marky realizes that Big Hair Davie likes playing with the same sex.
GBS @ 11
Wishful thinking. We’ll see if Obama even gets the nomination. One more “bimbo eruption” and he simply joins a long list of Dems who’ve succeeded in screwing their own pooch. [Easy there, DL. Don’t get all giddy. It’s just a slang term.]
Still enough DINO’s arround to help muck things up. A few are now trying for a compromise on FISA, to weasel in telecon immunity. Don’t believe our state delegation suffers from this. I hope they’re on top of it.
As a whole I support the democratic party. I recognize there’s a few clunkers in the party.Many of them appear to have drunk the neocon koolaid.
@10
The article is more of a smear than anything. Not trying to refute any point you’re making just pointing out that the article is a poorly written propaganda piece.
The Real Mark @ 14:
C’mon, you know my track record of predicting election outcomes is fairly accurate.
Ask Puddybud, HE had to buy me lunch over it. And JCH lost our bet about the Dems getting control of both houses of congress. In fact, I laid out exactly which states the Dems would win in 2006 to regain the Senate. I was mocked by righty’s when I said VA and MT were going blue.
Who’s laughing now? ME!
I will, however, agree with you that there is a long list of Dems who couldn’t close the deal.
But, as I said before, this is way more about Republicans getting fired more than it is about Democrats getting hired. The bottom line though, we’re in you’re out.
I mean YOU’RE FIRED!!
Michael @ 16
Are you saying the quotes from Markos and others are made up?
He’s admitting — arrogantly I might add — that the candidates are ignoring the Netroots.
Goldy–
Gee, you conveniently forgot this CNN Poll also published today:
WASHINGTON (CNN) — A new national poll suggests the battle for the Democratic presidential nomination between Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is a tie.
Sen. Hillary Clinton speaks Monday at a town hall meeting in Hammond, Indiana.
1 of 2 Forty-six percent of registered Democratic voters questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released Thursday support Obama as their party’s nominee and 45 percent back Clinton.
It’s a statistical tie when taking into account the poll’s 4.5 percentage point sampling error on that question.
“In mid-March, Obama had a 52 percent to 45 percent edge over Clinton, but his support has dropped six points while she has not gained any ground,” said Keating Holland, CNN polling director.
NOTE: The CNN Poll uses one of the highest Dem Leaning Samples…approx. 44%.
Oh and Goldy–
This Poll just in from Rasmussen (MUCH better past rack record than CNN!!)
“58% Say Obama Denounced Wright for Political Convenience, not Outrage
Friday, May 02, 2008
A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 30% of the nation’s Likely Voters believe Barack Obama denounced his former Pastor, Jeremiah Wright, because he was outraged. Most—58%–say he denounced the Pastor for political convenience. The survey was conducted on Wednesday and Thursday night. Obama made his statements about Wright on Tuesday.
Wright held a mini-media tour last weekend capped by a press conference at the National Press Club on Monday. Only 33% of voters believe that Obama was surprised by the views Wright expressed at Monday’s press conference. Fifty-two percent (52%) say he was not surprised.
Fifty-six percent (56%) say it’s at least somewhat likely that Obama “shares some of Pastor Wright’s controversial views about the United States.” That figure includes 26% who say it’s Very Likely Obama holds such views. At the other end of the spectrum 24% say it’s Not Very Likely that Obama shares such views. Just 11% say it’s Not at All Likely.
GBS–
Despite your wishful dreaming, Wright has hurt Obama very badly…and will continue to do so.
And 56% said it is somewhat likely O-blah-blah shares some of Wright’s views!!
OUCH!!!
Your confidence of an O-blah-blah runaway seems a bit misplaced…based on your wishful fantasies, as opposed to the minds of real Americans.
@19&20: You keep on with that stuff. It will make for a good whine come November. You folks seem to be forgetting that come Summer/Fall, Clinton and Obama are not going to be running against each other; rather, one of them will be running against a 72-year old liar with anger management issues, who calls his wife a c*nt (in public!), who declares he doesn’t care how long we occupy Iraq, that we should bomb Iran, and that his answer to the nation’s health care crisis is “don’t get sick.”
Good luck with that!
For those who say CNN is leaning left…here are the RCP poll averages:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
@21 – Yeah there is one here that likes to call us women the “C” word daily! He must be McCain’s right hand!
Rasmussen http://www.rasmussenreports.com/ also reports:
Clinton up by 5 points in Indiana
O-blah-blah now up only 9 points in NC (was up by 23!!)
This Wright thing is an albatross around O-blah-blah’s neck. Combine that with his “bitter” comments, his close ties to Rezko and Avery, his wife’s mouthy faux pas and his MOST LIBERAL Senator status voting record and his Illinois State Senator voting record….
O-blah-blah has a HUGE challenge ahead of himself. And he will constantly be on the defensive. O’Reilly announced there is more to come on Wright and other issues.
Hannah–
Thanks. CNN is obviously Left-leaning.
O-blah-blah was basically annointed into both his Illinois State Senate seat and his US Senate seat. Virtually zero competition in highly Dem District & State.
He has never been tested under fire.
He has relied on his intelligence, wit & excellent speaking voice & strong appearance.
You bet he has a huge advantage in these areas over both Hillary & McCain.
HOWEVER, having never been tested and being arrogant about these other advantages makes him extremely vulnerable when vetted & put on the defensive.
O-blah-blah thinks he can talk or charm his way out of everything.
Doesn’t happen in a Presidential Contest.
Look at what is happening…and the R’s have just sat back and let Hillary put O-blah-blah in his current sad state of affairs.
The advantage the Dems have with Hillary is she has already been vetted. So has McCain…despite you KLOWNS bringing up some slander-stuff.
Think about it.
O-blah-blah is only now being vetted…for the very 1st time. Do you really think there isn’t a lot more that the R’s have uncovered??
Are you all that naive???
What the media ISN’T reporting about Barack Hussein Obama’s other friends and associates is MUCH MUCH WORSE than Rev. Wright!
Just a few shocking examples… the media still refuses to give the American people details about:
**Obama’s friendship with Weather Underground member William Ayers, who advocated a dozen bombings, including the bombing of the U.S. Capitol building in 1971 and the Pentagon in 1972…
**Obama’s association with Jodie Evans, a radical, anti-American activist who facilitated over $600,000 in aid to Islamic radicals in Iraq…
**The Obama campaign’s “official blogger” whose work appears in a socialist magazine and who reportedly had a communist flag in his residence…
**Frank Marshall Davis, the anti-Christian radical and known member of the Communist Party USA who Obama looked upon as a “father.”
You want more??
Read http://www.exposeobama.com
@18
I’m not saying the quotes are made up, I’m saying it’s a white propaganda piece.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind.....Propaganda
12, 14 TRM
I know better than to expect anything but weak attempts at humor in your ad hominem attacks. You should really leave humor to the pros. I mean, it’s really obvious that you should. I’m just sayin’…
11 GBS
Dude, Barack Oabama spells his first name with a ‘C.’ He’s not Ehud Barak, former Prime Minister of Israel, he’s Barack Obama, our next president.
19 Cynical
You’re talking nonsense. You’re either telling us that in a poll of Democrats regarding their choice of nominee, CNN polls a sample that is only 44% Democratic, in which case the poll is worthless, OR you’re telling us that in other general opinion polls that CNN uses a 44% Democratic sample, but of course not in this poll of only Democrats, making the percentage information totally apropos of nothing.
You’re just babbling, dude.
If the Democratic candidate (whoever it is) plays it right, then it should be a cake walk.
All he/she has to do is ask:
Is America stronger today than it was eight years ago?????
*Is American more respected and influental in the world community?
*Is America’s economy stonger?
*Is our budget and national debt situation better?
*Has the middle class seen it’s wages rise faster than the rate of inflation?
*Is our military stonger?
*Are our civil liberties better protected?
*Are our elections and government agencies more safe from partison control and enfluence?
*Is our health care system better, more affordable, and more available to all?
*Are our retirements more secure?
*Are our jobs more secure?
Want to bet how the American people will vote after considering those issues?
“CNN is obviously Left-leaning.”
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Michael @ 27
So, any news reporting that the Nutroots are returning to irrelevance is propaganda?
How many times has Goldy trumpeted the Online Loony Left’s power grab in the Dem party?
How is their losing control NOT a news story?
Reuters is reporting this morning that the White House has chosen to deal with the recession by claiming there isn’t one. At the rate we’re going, that will become technically true–it’ll become a depression.
Oh, and fuck Dave Reichert.
NAMBLA @ 29 & 30
There is just something SO sad about a 52-year-old repeatedly saying “dude.”
Do you think Obama is “bitchen,” too?
When I’ve traveled and stayed someplace for a significant time, I’ve sometimes picked up the colloquialisms or slang of the area. It sure seems like the above is more proof that you’re spending too much time with underage kids…
So Hillary (via Howard Wolfson) responds to the fact the economists seem to be virtually unanimous in pronouncing the McCain/Clinton “gas tax holiday” a bad idea by saying that they want to just ignore the experts. Haven’t we just had eight years of that?
The best the Republicans can hope for in November is that American voters have a very, very, very short memory.
They are hoping gas prices will go down to $3.25 a gallon by late summer, so they can say: “See – our economic plan is working? Things are so much better than they were a few months before!”
Just like the “surge” in Iraq. “See – we are winning the war! Our casualties are down to only a couple hundred a month! And only a few thousand Iraqis are getting killed each week! And Iraqi civilians are safer now that the survivors have fled their fomer homes in mixed neighborhoods and are living with multiple families cramped into single homes in ethnically-cleansed neighborhoods protected by their own private militias. They were so, you know, disadvantaged before, this is working out very well for them.”
36 TRM
Fuck you too, dude.
Big Dick Cheney said it best, as usual: You libtards imply that it’s an accident that we’ve gone almost seven years without another 9/11. It’s an accomplishment.
There are McCain sites too. THere’s on that fact checks the stupid things he says:
mccainsource.com
Tidbits:
or
Nope! It doesn’t help your case to make it using a loaded question, btw.
Ever thought that maybe Dem’s are showing up on Fox more often, in part, because Fox is calling them up and asking them to come on more often? Note that where Fox news folks tended to attack them in the past now Fox is civil with Dem’s. Sounds to me like the folks at Fox know who’s driving the bus these days.
To me, the Politico piece reads like a dig at New Media and newer activists by Old Media and beltway power not a credible news article. It could be something different, but that’s how I read it.
But I repeat myself … GWB could lose 1/4th of his last-ditch support and still be more popular than Truman or Carter.
According to the NYT Almanac, Y2K edition, Truman scored 20% approval as the corpses (c. 40,000) were coming home from Korea. Carter scored a point or two higher when he was being buggered by Khomeini.
40 H
You mean since the anthrax attacks, right? Hey, did Bush and his crack team catch that guy yet? I didn’t think so.
43 H
Truman’s highest DISapproval was 67%, and Bush just blew by 70. Admit that your boy is a chump, and that everyone but the dead-enders knows it.
AF @ 34 (What is with you Lefties and your puerile handles? Not enough parental love as a child? Or maybe too much of the wrong kind?)
If you actually knew something about economics, you’d know that a recession is a decline in GDP in two consecutive quarters. While the country is clearly limping along (way to boost confidence, Congress!), it is not in a recession.
See: http://www.bea.gov/newsrelease.....elease.htm
Beating up Goldycrats is so borrrrring … they curl into fuzzy little fetal balls and whimper.
So, for something completely different and much more fun, here’s the Trash Talk Express Kwik Kwiz … right here.
Until about the day before yesterday, the stat-of-choice was ‘approval.’ That’s the number normal people cite when they nail pols to polls.
But suddenly the stat-du-jour is ‘disapproval.’
So let’s get hep and poll the disapproval of Daddy Love. Bet you’ll blow past Bush.
46 “While the country is clearly limping along (way to boost confidence, Congress!), it is not in a recession.”
It depends to a very great deal on whether you choose to believe the published economic indicators. You know–the stuff that the feds admitted last year that they’re now pulling out of a monkey’s ass.
35 “Oh, and fuck Dave Reichert.”
You suit yourself. I think I’ll pass.
46 TRM
You see, this is why no one respects you. You do not do your homework. Your conception of a “recession” is incorrect and outdated.
http://www.nber. org/cycles/jan08bcdc_memo.html
We’re in a recession, all right. And it’s Bush’s second:
http://www.nber. org/cycles/july2003/recessions.html
The Eliminationist tone of your language and the all or nothing statement does help you either. I mean, come on Mark. I’m a lower-middle class guy who flunked out of college and I’m kicking your ass here. You really need to try a little harder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliminationism
48 whatever
Until about the day before yesterday, the stat-of-choice was ‘approval.’
And the reason people are talking about disapproval now is because this president is registering all-time historic highs. Duh.
Talk about “brain dead.” The EMTs just called it for you, kid.
Michael @ 42
Fox has consistently had Dems on the channel. The new news is that Obama and Hillary are going on the air. Fox almost always has a rep from each party when they do their analysis or discussion pieces (unlike some of the other networks). Ever consider that the only way a left-wing Dem is going to win the general is to try and win over people besides the Lefty base?
It isn’t a dig at New MEDIA, per se. If it is a “dig” at anything, it is a dig at the Left bloggers’ sense of self-importance.
Check out Sid Vicious, here.
And Rush, who was smeared for recycling the veiled and unveiled threats of Rev. Sharpton, Roseann Barr (Bob Barr’s twin brother), and recreate68.org to do a death march to Denver and rip the joint.
Oh, and this (51) is also why you poke at my name instead of engaging. It’s a lot safer than letting me make you look stupid. Again. So play it safe. Here’s a nice softball (ooh, I’ll bet you can comment on that instead of a complicated recession, right?) for ya:
Fuck Dave Reichert. Dude. Oh, and softball.
Just trying to help you, as usual, with context.
48: The polls usually lists responses in three catagories, “approval”, “disapproval”, and “undecided”.
The President’s “approval” rating appears in the various polls to be at a relatively steady rock-bottom 28%, meaning that he could be caught having an affair with the family dog and that 28% would still support him. No news there – it’s been that way for the past year and a half.
The “dissaproval” rating made the news because apparantly some more “undecideds” have moved into the “dissaproval” catagory, making his “dissaproval” numbers the worst ever.
Which is pretty impressive, considering the scorn which was previously heaped upon other sitting Presidents (Johnson, Nixon, Carter) near the end of their terms.
It’s going to be pretty impressive this November when the accumulated anger of the American people wrecks it’s vengence upon the Republican Party.
Actually, life is pretty good in America right now. Unemployment is low, loan rates are low, every kind of foodstuff or good is readily available in every store. Gas is plentiful.
Compare today to the 1970’s. They started bad (huge Demo majorities in Congress and Republican appeasement Presidents), and reached the nadir under Jimmy Carter and Tip O’Neill. Horrible, wretched times. No jobs, no gas, high interest and super-high inflation. And, Jimmy Carter made America disrespected around the world, from Russia to China to the Middle East (he’s still working hard at continuning that effort, too).
Problem is most folks actually believe the leftist/socialist media in America. Crime rates are way better than they were back then, too.
Yes, most folks probably do NOT approve of George W Bush. They’re told not to. And, after all, he’s no Ronald Reagan. BUT THANK GOD HE’S NO JIMMY CARTER! Along w/ James Buchanan (imagine that: Another Demo) JC WAS THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!
58 cmk
Yes, stupid people just think what they’re “told to.” Which is why Bill Clinton left office with 66% approval.
TRM: Great strategy for republican idiots – keep claiming (just like Bush) that we are not “offically” in a recession yet. By the time we actually are in a recession (which we generally find out after the fact) most voters will be so mad at the pathetic republican excuses for killing our economy that they will vote democratic.
Remember – Bush and that idiot McCain kept saying it was just a blip and that the economy was essentially sound. Bunch of liars or ignoramuses – you choose.
Can’t wait to have McCan’t running on his twin paltform of success in Iraq and a good republican economy. Tax cuts…that’s all we need…if republicans ran my home bills I would be bankrupt and in debtors prison. They spend like there is no tomorrow on unnecessary wars and cut taxes for the rich – the interest on the debt alone will screw this country for another 10 years. Thanks for the huge debt for our kids, republicans. Thanks for the Abramoff inspired corruption – approved by Karl Rove. Thanks for the ineptness and corruption of Gonzalez, Brownie, Lurita Doan, David Safavian, David Vitter, the entire republican Alaska delegation, the Justice dept. Assistant Atorneys scandal, crooked Tom DeLay and incompetent Doug Feith, Rumsfeld and Cheney.
Just remember – every time Bush talks about listening to the Generals on Iraq – most of the generals quit in disgust after the Iraq war and Rumsfeld and Bremer screwed up the occupation. They only listen to the generals who tow the Bush line.
Imagine a father, who gave his permission for his son to take his brand-new car out for a spin. The father had worked hard for that car, spending the better part of a decade saving money so he could pay for it with cash.
In the wee hours of the morning, the son returns. He reaks of alchohol. The car has been totalled.
That’s not the worse of it. He took the Dad’s credit card, and spent it to the limit on a night of wild partying at strip clubs with his buddies. Later, still drunk in a cafe, he spots his father’s boss at a breakfast meeting with some important clients, tells him off and challenges the boss to a fight. The father has just received a call telling him not to bother to show up for work, the contents of his desk will be sent to him.
So the son stumbles in, and is trying to say how it’s not his fault, that somebody else is to blame, including the father himself.
Now, imagine how angry the father is at his son.
That’s how 72% of the American people now feel about the Republican Party.
cmiklich: “life is pretty good …” keep parroting the party line you idiot. Average wages are down, foreclosures are at record highes, real jobs are down, the stock market is way down, gas prices are at record highs and inflation is knocking, the debt is the largest ever….we are probably in a recession right now – but we won’t find out until later. Loans are cheap because the Fed is making money cheap to avoid a BIG recession.
By every objective measure we are worse off than when Bush was selected by the Supreme court with a minority of the popular vote. But idiot cmiklich says things are great – so they must be. Typical – cmiklich has to go back to Carter to find anything comparable. We had a 2-term democratic president called Clinton – and things were in much better shape at the end of his term than Bush. The American people aren’t as stupid as you – cmiklich.
40 True, indeed, that we haven’t had another 9/11 since….well, since 9/11. It’s also true that we never had one before the neocon jerks took over.
Cheney has repeatedly made statements that imply he’s certain that if his gang loses control, there will be another 9/11. Does he…uhhh, know something we’re not supposed to?
61 rhp
Bush just drove America into the ground like he did every company he ever ran. And his daddy’s friends will continue to bail him out after this is over, funding his library, making sure it is an “uncomfortable truth”-free zone, and paying his speaking fees.
Funny how Republicans are. That is, not funny.
But just what will the empty-suit ditzy Darcy do now if she can’t run against George W. Bush anymore? Oooohhhhh….shiny!
So when’s MCain going on Air America? If he can’t confront liberals, how can he confront “da tarrahists?”
65 M1
last I heard, the war was still going strong.
58: You keep going with that line, buddy. Keep telling the people how much better off they are now than they were eight years ago. Let’s see how well that works out for you.
By the way, despite the Republican party line and some popular opinion, Carter wasn’t a bad president at all. He got hit with a convergence of a lot of bad trends, making him a transitional President. He made a lot of changes which got both sides pissed off at him, some of which paid off later only to make Reagan look better, others which Reagan abandoned and which took the next twelve years or so to fix. His biggest problem was Carter wasn’t a charismatic personality, as was Reagan.
But I don’t have time to get into a long debate about Carter, it’s too big an issue to handle here. So I won’t respond if you try to start that debate. I only brought it up to point out that I don’t concede that point.
The issue is the current President, not the president of 28 years ago or the one some 148 years ago (even though I agree Buchanan is probably among the bottom three Presidents).
@ 66
Are they still even on the air?
Bush’s lousy poll ratings — which will soon put him in contention with Low Tax Looper for most unpopular American politician of all time — isn’t the only news today.
America is experiencing its worst measles outbreak in years. Because the faith-based crowd doesn’t believe in forcing parents to have their kids vaccinated. God will protect them, you see.
@63
The first time the Trade center got bombed we tracked the fuckers who did it down and put them in jail. The second time, we secreted the ring leaders family members out of the country BEFORE the FBI could talk to them and invaded the wrong country.
Yeah, the Republicans sure are keeping us safe.
62 It might be called into question how much credit Bill Clinton can claim (other than to have practiced a degree of restraint) for the comparative good condition in which he left things at the end of his watch. On the other hand, there’s absolutely no question that the present administration carries the blame for how fucked up things are now, and how much more fucked up they’re going to get.
72: On the subject of how much credit Clinton can claim for the economy in the 1990’s:
Well, Gore got, well “gored” when the Republicans accused him of taking credit for inventing the internet. But that was a mischaracterization of his comments. What he was pointing out was that until the Clinton administration, the “internet” was reserved for use by the government and educational institutions, as a defense against the loss of data and communications in the event of a nuclear attack. The Clinton administration pushed through making the interenet available to the public at large.
The public really wasn’t that interested in the issue at the time, only some nerds in the computing world who were trying to make newsgroups and bulleton boards work more easily were interested. After all, most Americans didn’t have personal computers at home in the early 1990’s, those that did didn’t have sufficient power to do much on the interent and had no modem access, and there were no consumer-friendly web browsers or a lot of content available at the time. But some forward-thinking people realized the potential, and the Clinton administration backed them, and it was pushed forward dispite some objections by the military and academic communities who wanted to keep it for themselves.
Then, combined with the explosion in personal computing power, the creation of Netscape browser, the emergency of consumer internet access providers such as Prodigy, Yahoo, and AOL, there was an explosion in the computing world. This had a geometric multiplying affect, as more powerful computers led to better applications which led to better content which in turn led to more powerful computers, etc., etc., etc., along with public consumer demand to replace their machines on a regular basis.
This contributed considerably to the economic boom in the U.S. in the 1990’s, as companies became more efficient, secretarial pools dissapeared, mainframe computer departments replaced by network administrators, business data was evaluated more easily and quickly by managers, start-up businesses found their entry costs diminished considerably, and small businesses in general found they could compete more easily with the big guys on a cost basis. This allowed companies like Amazon.com to move from a garage operation to being the biggest bookseller in America within only a few years.
Although hardware production of computers was already beginning to move offshore, most of the software companies were still American. This helped offset the otherwise negative balance of trade, and resulted in a considerable influx of cash from around the world into the American economy.
So this one decision – opening up the internet to the public – is just one example of how those running the government need to be in front of the marketplace, not behind it, and how their decisions can have a huge impact on the American economy.
Now, if a Republican had been President during the 1990’s, I have no doubt that one of two things would have happened. Most probably, they would have continued to consider the internet a military advantage which cannot be made available to the general public. But if favored private industry pushed to make it available, I’m sure a Republican president would arrange to put the internet “out to bid” (or a no-bid contract?), resulting with it’s sale to AT&T or some similar company, which would maintain monopolistic pricing and access control. The result may have been that only large businesses would have been able to afford access to the internet.
Also, the decision to allow the public to access the GPS network follows similar lines.
Of course, the biggest contribution Bill Clinton made to the economy is he had enough sense not to do stupid things (with one notable exception), and to appoint reasonably competent people to be in charge of the departments. There is a tendency for “crisis managers” to get all the attention, but the really good managers often are ignored because they avoid the crisis through prudent planning, administration, and foresight.
James Buchanan, a Democrat I am sorry to say, was the worst president, bar none. Doing nothing was his lodestar
George Bush will go down in history as taking his place for having that dubious distinction. He has gone out of his way to do harm.
Carter….middle of the pack.
74 rhp
There’s a reason that a Republican was not president during the 1990s, and it’s beause Republicans were president during the 1980s, when they looted HUD and enabled the S&L debacle, wherein the vice-president’s sons were involved in what turned out to be the theft of over $1.4 TRILLION dollars of American taxpayer money. Apparently around 2000 everyone got stupid again and forgot that Republicans are incompetents and thieves.
Here’s a handy S&L timeline:
http://www.fdic.gov/bank/historical/s&l/
Cool! I had a comment removed. Jeez, I was wondering when I’d be off-topic enough. *Snagglepuss voice* Or more than TRM, even.
76 There was a comment either somewhere up this thread or in another one in which it was stated that McCain couldn’t possibly win in November unless the American voting public has a “very, very short memory”.
If past experience is any indication, that may well turn out to be the case.
Worse than Carter?
Now that took some doing!
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79 Naivite is one thing. Ineptitude is another.
Malfeasance is a quantum leap beyond.
The current administration has managed to combine all three in unprecedented abundance.
80 This post pretty much speaks for itself.
Man ya’ll ignorant. Approval ratings polls mean nothing in a vacuum. The American people are just being moody for Iraq and the economy. When push comes to shove, McCain will win. Don’t worry!
@83
Every time I see your tag, I’m reminded of the ChickenLover episode from South Patk. And every time I read your comments, I’m convinced that there’s a good probability that you actually do fuck chickens in your spare time.
When push comes to shove, McCain will win. Don’t worry!
If Obama is the nominee and McCain wins anyway, then the US electorate is terminally stupid and get what we deserve. We deserve to continue on the path we are on, to become a third world nation like Columbia and Panama.
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Re: 60, 61, 63, 69, et al.
The title of the thread is: Worst president Ever. So, the subject broaches all 43.
But, as noted above, the facts speak for themselves. Foreclosures were much higher (by percentage) during the depression (Hoover-Roosevelt). Average wages? Please. Since the “mean” is determined by all wage earners, then average is much, much (MUCH!!!) higher than ever before. Do you mean “mode”?
And since it takes, on average, less $$ to buy the same goods, adjusting for inflation, than 30 years ago, things ARE GREAT. State of the art electronics are cheaper than ever. Clothing, hardware, cars (vis-a-vis technology. Almost any car has full power accessories now. They were hella expensive 30 years ago.).
Yes, food prices are higher. Who was the DUMBASS that had the idea of putting our food in our gas tank? Oh, right: Al Gore and friends. I thank GOD every day and everyone here should too that he didn’t win in ’00!
BJ with higher approval ratings? Who was running the poll: BJ? Those of us who knew better, knew his 8 years would lead to disaster and we were right. BJ WAS THE ONE WHO INVITED ALL OF THE SEPT 11 TERRORISTS INTO AMERICA! Not GWB. Your guy brought ’em in.
We had SLAVERY in the USA until a REPUBLICAN ended the practice. Name of Lincoln. A precession of Democrats sullied the office prior to his arrival. All of them, from Adams Jr to Buchanan were much, much worse than GWB.
FDR and Truman gave us the cold war through their flaccidity vs the USSR. Ike, JFK & LBJ just spun their wheels against the Soviets. Reagan kicked their @ss!
It’s about a guarantee that folks who think Jimmy the Peanut Farmer was a good Prez weren’t alive or don’t remember how bad things truly were in the late ’70’s. Lemme tell ya, times were hard. Worst economy and despair in America since FDR exacerbated the depression w/ his piss-poor economic policies.
Reagan’s opening of the markets has enrichened all of our lives with advances in all facets of life: We have MORE of EVERYTHING. More goods and services, more advancements in science and medicine, more food, just plain MORE!! The same CANNOT be said of the period 1977-1981.
I believe that former President Harry Truman had the absolute lowest approval ratings of any president. In 1952 he decided not to run for re-election as his favorable polls were in the low 20s. Old Give’em Hell Harry got us involved in the Korean War in 1950. We lost over 45,000 soldiers KIA in less than three years. And the situation on the Korean Penn. hasn’t improved, but has become much more dangerous in the almost 55 years since a ceasefire was called; no truce, armistice, no peace treaty-just a ceasefire. It’s also interesting to note that General Dwight Eisenhower,then head of Columbia University was courted by BOTH the Democrats and Republicans and offered the nomination by both.
He went GOP and the Democratic nominee was Sen. Adlai E.Stevenson of Illinois; Senator Obama holds Adlai’s senate seat!