Always thought the whole Scottish thing was a little silly, but perhaps if King George had offered us an independence vote 238 years ago, we’d all be British today, and we could have avoided that messy war?
I’m a little sad that the Scots did not choose to throw off the rule of their Anglo-Saxon/Norman oppressors.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
The Queen should be grateful to King George that she didn’t get stuck with 100 million Republicans.
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Stevespews:
“The Queen should be grateful to King George that she didn’t get stuck with 100 million Republicans.”
To defend my Republican friends, only half are genuinely batshit insane, the rest being merely fucked up in the head.
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tensorspews:
“…and we could have avoided that messy war?”
In terms of stuff blown up and lives ruined, our Revolutionary War was remarkably clean. Now, remaining in the British Empire, and thus joining the Great War in 1914 instead of 1917, would have bled us grievously, for the same total lack of benefit we ultimately realized. No, thanks.
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RDPencespews:
Yes, I doubt the queen would approve of 100 million subjects who preferred a republic over a monarchy.
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Teanaggerspews:
Any government run by republicans is the worst form of government. Republican politicians are a bunch of schmucks.
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Worfspews:
We would have universal healthcare, national rail, better curry and fish and chips, and probably be more literate as well. Prohibition wouldn’t have happened.
Can we get a do-over?
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@6 We don’t have a republic. We have a bunch of undereducated and overrepresented bumpkins in a gerrymandered Congress trying to keep anyone else from voting so they can inflict their undemocratic agenda on the rest of us.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Let me rephrase that to make my meaning more clear:
We have a bunch of undereducated and overrepresented bumpkins trying to keep anyone else from voting so they can inflict their undemocratic agenda on the rest of us with a gerrymandered Congress.
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seatackledspews:
@7
More importantly, the drive to Paris would only be a few hours.
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Jackspews:
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The Progressives of the day actually supported Prohibition.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
If anyone doubts that Republicans are overrepresented in Congress, try this on for size:
% of popular vote won in 2012 House elections: 47.6%
% of House seats “won” in 2012 elections: 51.7%
% of popular vote won in last 3 Senate elections: 47.2%
% of Senate seats currently held: 45.9%
% of Senate votes needed to block legislation: 41%
(figures exclude Independents)
So, Republicans won about 47% of the popular vote for both houses of the current Congress, yet they have effective majorities in both houses. How the fuck does that happen in a democracy?
What we have in this country is minority rule, with conservatives from small rural states given outsized representation, and urban populations in liberal-leaning states severely underrepresented especially in the Senate (Alaska’s 735,000 people get the same number of Senators as California’s 38.3 million people).
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Worfspews:
@11 – true, but that is neither here nor there. If we hadn’t declared independence, we would be british, and prohibition probably wouldn’t have happened.
Also, we could spell color with a “u” and center as “centre”.
All I’m seeing are upsides.
Can we have an anti-independence vote?
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Jackspews:
An anti-independence vote? Would that be a vote to re-join the UK?
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SJspews:
Like all else in today’s US, the referendum would have been decided by who can buy the most votes.
Jack spews:
I’m a little sad that the Scots did not choose to throw off the rule of their Anglo-Saxon/Norman oppressors.
Roger Rabbit spews:
The Queen should be grateful to King George that she didn’t get stuck with 100 million Republicans.
Steve spews:
“The Queen should be grateful to King George that she didn’t get stuck with 100 million Republicans.”
To defend my Republican friends, only half are genuinely batshit insane, the rest being merely fucked up in the head.
tensor spews:
“…and we could have avoided that messy war?”
In terms of stuff blown up and lives ruined, our Revolutionary War was remarkably clean. Now, remaining in the British Empire, and thus joining the Great War in 1914 instead of 1917, would have bled us grievously, for the same total lack of benefit we ultimately realized. No, thanks.
RDPence spews:
Yes, I doubt the queen would approve of 100 million subjects who preferred a republic over a monarchy.
Teanagger spews:
Any government run by republicans is the worst form of government. Republican politicians are a bunch of schmucks.
Worf spews:
We would have universal healthcare, national rail, better curry and fish and chips, and probably be more literate as well. Prohibition wouldn’t have happened.
Can we get a do-over?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@6 We don’t have a republic. We have a bunch of undereducated and overrepresented bumpkins in a gerrymandered Congress trying to keep anyone else from voting so they can inflict their undemocratic agenda on the rest of us.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Let me rephrase that to make my meaning more clear:
We have a bunch of undereducated and overrepresented bumpkins trying to keep anyone else from voting so they can inflict their undemocratic agenda on the rest of us with a gerrymandered Congress.
seatackled spews:
@7
More importantly, the drive to Paris would only be a few hours.
Jack spews:
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The Progressives of the day actually supported Prohibition.
Roger Rabbit spews:
If anyone doubts that Republicans are overrepresented in Congress, try this on for size:
% of popular vote won in 2012 House elections: 47.6%
% of House seats “won” in 2012 elections: 51.7%
% of popular vote won in last 3 Senate elections: 47.2%
% of Senate seats currently held: 45.9%
% of Senate votes needed to block legislation: 41%
(figures exclude Independents)
So, Republicans won about 47% of the popular vote for both houses of the current Congress, yet they have effective majorities in both houses. How the fuck does that happen in a democracy?
What we have in this country is minority rule, with conservatives from small rural states given outsized representation, and urban populations in liberal-leaning states severely underrepresented especially in the Senate (Alaska’s 735,000 people get the same number of Senators as California’s 38.3 million people).
Worf spews:
@11 – true, but that is neither here nor there. If we hadn’t declared independence, we would be british, and prohibition probably wouldn’t have happened.
Also, we could spell color with a “u” and center as “centre”.
All I’m seeing are upsides.
Can we have an anti-independence vote?
Jack spews:
An anti-independence vote? Would that be a vote to re-join the UK?
SJ spews:
Like all else in today’s US, the referendum would have been decided by who can buy the most votes.