The Seattle Times’ Danny Westneat sticks it to the editorial boards… including his own:
So our state’s senior senator, Patty Murray, is keeping $35,000 in campaign donations she got from clients of disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
Good for her. She’s one of the few politicians or pundits who understand what this corruption scandal is really about. Since Abramoff copped to a congressional bribery scheme last week, fearful politicians, including our other senator, Maria Cantwell, have been skittering to toss back hundreds of thousands of dollars in perfectly legal contributions from Indian tribes that once used Abramoff’s lobbying services.
Now, the editorial boards of three local newspapers, including my own, are pounding on Murray to do the same.
“It is simply not OK to profit from ill-gotten gains,” scolded The Columbian of Vancouver, Wash., telling Murray to return the “tainted money.”
But Murray is going with her gut. Her contributions were not from Abramoff, she says, and were “legally given, legally reported and legally spent.”
In comments that will have her colleague Cantwell squirming, Murray says returning the money is a hollow stunt to make politicians look good.
“I will not rush to scapegoat those tribes who have already been victimized by Jack Abramoff,” Murray wrote in a letter to The Seattle Times. “Your easy answer would be fine if all I wanted was to score cheap points on being ‘clean.’ “
I was getting pretty sick and tired of hearing self-righteous editorialists playing into the GOP propaganda mill, preaching to Democrats to give back these campaign contributions. Such admonitions would lead you to believe that Dems were somehow involved in this scandal. They weren’t.
Not a single Democrat received a dime of money from Abramoff. Not a dime.
This is a GOP scandal, and to attempt to shame Dems into giving back unrelated contributions from tribes, simply because they also happened to be Abramoff clients, is a misleading, disingenuous, and absurd game of blame the victim.
Abramoff and his GOP buddies screwed the tribes… they defrauded them, bilked them, robbed them blind! And as a result, the public should be led to believe that all tribal contributions are tainted?
What a load of crap.
Thanks, Danny, for calling it what it is.
gotta love that murray has the balls to stand up to these scumbags too…
Way to go!
OT, but…
BRIGHT ORB SEEN IN SEATTLE SKY!
We don’t know what it is. It is very bright. It hurts to look at it directly. Seems to emanate rays that feel warm to the skin. It is slowly moving from east to west. Local news is going crazy. Governor may be contacting Air Force to investigate. Republicans claim no knowledge of bright orb.
PAT ROBERTSON: SHARON’S STROKE ‘DIVINE PUNISHMENT’
“I would say, ‘Woe unto any Prime Minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the E.U., the United Nations or the United States of America.'”
Yeah, Pat, but be patient, YOUR divine punishment is coming.
robert: Theres no orb down here. Kinda worried tho, my office is right on the green river, an’ it looks just about ready to flood.
windie,
It’s very mysterious – seems to be darting in and out of the clouds now in the downtown area. Bush is contacting NORAD.
“Abramoff and his GOP buddies screwed the tribes… they defrauded them, bilked them, robbed them blind!”
Ain’t the first time the Indian Haters Party has scalped the tribes! Won’t be the last, either. Wait til they send them blankets infected with bird flu.
Abramoff is a good thing for the trollfucks, who needed something new to lie about.
This bullshit about Democrats getting money from Abramoff is starting to smell worse with age.
The assidously non-partisan Washington Times, for instance, has this turd today:
http://insider.washingtontimes.....5655-1555r
Citing the world famous unnamed source working with the Justice Department, which could be just about any defense lawyer in Washington D. C., the Times breathlessly reports:
“The source said prosecutors asked Abramoff whether the lawmakers had performed “official acts” in exchange for campaign cash or other favors. Although it is unknown whether any of the five will be charged in the case, the source said Abramoff was being “prepped” by five Justice Department attorneys in that event.”
I don’t know why the Times limited the potential legislators being asked about to Conrad Burns, Byron L. Dorgan, Harry Reid, J.D. Hayworth and Bob Ney. There are 535 legislators in D. C. and Abramoff should be asked about all of them.
The relationship between Abramoff and Tom Delay, Susan Davis, Duke Cunningham and Mary Bono will be of much more interest and importance.
The Republicans do run Congress, after all.
Read what that commie socialists moonbat Rich Lowry wrote yesterday…
“The GOP now craves such bipartisan cover in the Jack Abramoff scandal. Republicans trumpet every Democratic connection to Abramoff in the hope that something resonates. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.), took more than $60,000 from Abramoff clients! North Dakota Democratic Sen. Byron Dorgan used Abramoff’s skybox! It is true that any Washington influence peddler is going to spread cash and favors as widely as possible, and 210 members of Congress have received Abramoff-connected dollars. But this is, in its essence, a Republican scandal, and any attempt to portray it otherwise is a misdirection.“
Oh, Patty, Patty, Patty! How the Goopers have “misunderestimated ” you. From the very first. They can call you dim. . . .but you are certainly bright enough to shed some light on their darkness.
Rich Lowry, 1/10/2006:
“The GOP now craves such bipartisan cover in the Jack Abramoff scandal. Republicans trumpet every Democratic connection to Abramoff in the hope that something resonates. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.), took more than $60,000 from Abramoff clients! North Dakota Democratic Sen. Byron Dorgan used Abramoff’s skybox! It is true that any Washington influence peddler is going to spread cash and favors as widely as possible, and 210 members of Congress have received Abramoff-connected dollars. But this is, in its essence, a Republican scandal, and any attempt to portray it otherwise is a misdirection.”
GREETINGS FROM OSAMA
Osama Bin Laden recently sent Dubya a letter to let him know he’s still alive. But when Bush opened the letter, it appeared to be in code, and he couldn’t read it:
370HSSV-0773H
So, Bush sent it to the FBI, but they couldn’t read it either, so they sent it to the NSA, but they couldn’t read it, so they asked Israeli Intelligence for help.
Five seconds later the Israelis replied,
“Tell the President he’s holding it upside down.”
Where are all the troll posters who were SURE the Democrats were just as culpable for taking Abramoff’s money?
After all, Howard Dean made a pretty clear and bold statement on Wolf Blitzer’s show last Sunday that no Democrat took money from Abramoff; and no rebuttal from the RNC?
As the old saying goes “Silence is Golden.”
Roger Rabbit@11 Dubya sez”Obama? Osama? They’r the same. aren’t they?
GBS,
There are conservative think tanks all over DC right now figuring out how to blame this all on the almighty Clenis.
Where the hell are all the trolls?
They just love to slide their slime into unrelated threads, why aren’t they foisting their accusations on this one?
I can only conclude that they don’t want anyone looking too closely at their tripe filled diatribes containing the false connections they make between Abramoff and Democratic politicians.
Maria did the right thing donating the money even though it was every bit as legal and appropriate as the money Patty is holding on to. In the end, when you are looking at a reelection campaign and the R’s will use even this non issue against you, the wise thing to do is to donate the money. Since the money is legit anyway and Patty is not up she gets to hold onto it.
The repuglakans are bailing as fast as they can but that ship is going down down down. The days of shoot first, use it or loose it, buy now pay later are about to be replaced with diplomacy, conservation and pay as you go. Unfortunately since the D’s have a conscience we will also be paying off the debt created since Bush took office.
Keep an eye on the “charities” to which Republicans donate their supposedly tainted funds. A BIG part of the Republican dirty money machine is to shamelessly launder money through phony charities. The Bush IRS has shown no interest in looking into this. Go figure.
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You know, Farmer, the trolls show their ignorance when they call Patty “dim”.
When I was looking at her from far away in California, I thought of her as the weak sister in the 1992 female invasion of the Senate. But, after working on her campaign and getting to know her personally, I know that Patty is one tough broad.
I’d take her against any of the trolls at even money, but they should be willing to give me odds, don’t you think? Since they’re so sure she’s comes in at 15 watts.
Roger Rabbit @ 3
Don’t rightly know if the Devine would bother with a worthless scumbag like Marion gordon (his real name), but the punishment part has already arrived:
Israel pulls plug on Pat Robertson deal
@6
FYI: When the American Indians were given blankets germs and viruses were not yet known to transmit disease.
I’ll buy into the fact that blankets were not fair payment but not the notion that whites conducted what amounts to germ warfare on the Native Americans.
BTW: when was the last time YOU made a deal and said: “Wait, that’s not payment enough, here’s more money.” **Taxes don’t count.**
Smoke @ 21:
Well, read “Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee”, and then we’ll see if you can spell genocide.
Walls in England back then were wall-papered with indian scalps.
Drew4PeaceNow @ 17, you raise a valid point. My Democratic brothers and sisters are in a loose, loose situation, especially with the reporting done by the whore media:
Dean Issues Smack-down on Wolfie
Return the money and she acknowledges the propaganda from the noise machine, both parties are involved with Jack.
Keep the money and the Pre$$tiutes will crucify her as being part of the “Culture of Corruption”. (What a cliché)
As I have pointed out elsewhere, not one dime of Abramoff money plays a significant role in the Abramoff scandals.
All the wrongdoing alleged to date (and expected to be revealed in weeks to come) involves money steered by Abramoff, influenced by Abramoff.
Yes, as will become increasingly clear, it’s a Republican scandal. Even Republicans know it. But a Dem or two might get caught in the dragnet, or tarred by association.
To determine what’s fair and what’s foul, roughly $100,000,000 of tribal and other client money will have to be vetted with respect to influence, expectations, commonality of interests, departures from established voting patterns, and explicit quid pro quo. (Versus about $35,000 a year in direct contributions by Abramoff and spouse.) In many of the interesting cases, behavior will be highly suspect but evidence will be insufficient to convict.
For now, either stance — Cantwell’s or Murray’s — is perfectly fair. GOP electeds, BTW, are entitled to the same presumptions and lack of presumeptions. Let it play out.
Robert @ 15
I’ve never heard the term “Clenis” before. After I googled it I laughed out loud. I’m adding it to my lexicon because it describes perfectly the conservatives who claim to extol the virtues of “personal responsibility,” but are the first ones to blame someone else.
The shitty economy, corruption, crimes, cover ups, leaks, deficits, erosion of civil liberties, big government, FEMA, cronyism, and, terrible war strategies are all the result of piss-poor leadership from Bush and republicans in Washington D.C. and none other.
Thanks,
GBS
GBS,
I am just here to enlighten! Similar to the Godwin’s Law that someone will eventually use a Nazi analogy in a thread, you can almost guarantee the longer a political thread is, eventually some Conservative will bring up Clinton’s “member”. They are infatuated with the fact he got a consensual BJ.
The economy isn’t so bad. The housing market is doing well. The stock market has made some nice gains and looks to continue to improve. The Fed is easing on their bias towards raising interest rates.
There may be problems with FEMA, cronyism, and big government, but I’d say the economy so much of a problem.
Smoke @21 You can say that folks in the 15-18th centuries were not up on their microbiology. You can say that they didn’t know the difference between viruses and bacteria.
But if you think that people didn’t figure out that hanging around people infected with the yellow fever and/or coming into contact with their clothes and blankets did not get you sick, then you are simply acting foolish.
Let me put this into perspective for you with just one example among many… Europe was hit by the bubonic plague at least once a generation for roughly the previous 200 years. Everyone had a pretty dang good idea of what a pandemic looked like first hand.
They didn’t know the exact method of transmission, but they damn well knew to burn anything that came into contact with the victims to avoid catching the plague themselves.
You would never give the blankets of someone who died from plague or fever to someone else unless you wanted them dead.
As ugly a moment in our history as it is, it WAS germ warfare.
“Dim” Patty Murray pretty much swept the floor with Nethercutt.
Here’s one: The PEW poll is out, and the president’s job approval numbers are
approve 38%
Disapprove 54%
Question you won’t hear on the Sunday talks: “Does this downward trend in his approval rating mean bad news for the president?”
Another:
The PEW poll is out, and the American people have spoken:
“By about three-to-one (73%-24%) the public opposes allowing government surveillance of their personal phone calls and emails.”
All misleading questioning about whether the government should be monitoring “terrorists” aside, THIS is what they’ve been doing, and we don’t wike it vewwy well.
But look at the site. Fewer than half of Americans approve of wiretapping without a warrant when the tapped is “suspected of terrorits ties.”
Now here’s your REAL “appearance of impropriety:”
“Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay tried to pressure the Bush administration into shutting down an Indian-owned casino that lobbyist Jack Abramoff wanted closed – shortly after a tribal client of Abramoff’s donated to a DeLay political action committee…”
Yep. Money received. Action taken right afterward. Hey, maybe nothing wrong, but ya gotta admit it looks a lot a) different and b) worse than people who accept donations with no apparent tie to any actions.
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“Obama? Osama? They’r the same. aren’t they?”
I can see how Dubya might get Obama, Osama, and Bubba confused.
Regarding 30:
And Bush’s approval is at 38%
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“Unfortunately since the D’s have a conscience we will also be paying off the debt created since Bush took office.”
Let’s repudiate Bush’s debt. Most of it is owned by the rich or China anyway.
20
No Disneyland-by-Galilee? What a shame. Not.
Let the R’ leaning apologists consider this…
One of the only ways a govt. prosecuter can break out of the shell and get to the big time money, very big time money, that are paid in some big law firms — well, it is with a very high progile and famous case. Resume checks to the big money.
The career prosecuters in all this will be among the big time winnners — as they enter history and the law legends as the Federal Hard Ass Prosecuter who ran the biggest public cases in 100 years.
Sweat, pigs, sweat. Your ASSES will be building blocks of many better law careers. Irony.
Lots of resume checking, well earned, that will lead to the big time private practices, or teaching at law school. etc.
The old ambitious American way, plus what sport and national fame to boot. Moms and Dads beaming. More dates appear, while hanging in swantier places. Quoted to national TV audiences. Lots of tangental benefits,
There is an old folk tune, “The Rats Will Be Ratting” — something like that. Chanted around a pole with flags, beer, and food. Goldy would approve – and be a bit drunk.
Tis a work in progress.
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Bus, how does PEW report their findings?
They say it’s a split, but what does it mean to monitor, without court permission, the phone and email communications of Americans suspected of having terrorist ties? How would the NSA know that?
It’s clear that American citizens are being monitored that the NSA hasn’t the slightest suspicion they have terrorist ties, otherwise they’d get a warrant.
VA
It seems that the NSA whistleblower who ratted them out to the Times agrees with you:
“President Bush has admitted that he gave orders that allowed the NSA to eavesdrop on a small number of Americans without the usual requisite warrants. But Tice disagrees. He says the number of Americans subject to eavesdropping by the NSA could be in the millions if the full range of secret NSA programs is used. “That would mean for most Americans that if they conducted, or you know, placed an overseas communication, more than likely they were sucked into that vacuum,” Tice said. “
Libertarian @ 27,
yes and no. All that you say is true. All the following is also true:
The official poverty rate in the U.S. has increased for four consecutive years, from a 26-year low of 11.3% in 2000 to 12.7% in 2004.
Inflation-adjusted weekly wages — also known as real wages — continue to trail the level reported in March 2001.
Trade deficit widens as credit card debt expands
Truth is people like me are doing okay (I have a pension, full medical, a lot of investments, no children and no outstanding debt). The ordinary working stiff, however, is screwed.
37.
Sure, asking “do you want those awful terrorist colaborators wiretapped” versus “do you think the NSA should tap your phone to see if you are a terrorist collaborator”, will yeild widely varying results.
Isn’t this stance by patty exactly what I kept asking this weekend on other threads? She must read the comments, and based her decision on my advice! (Okay, even I am not that whacked out.)
Why does dubya get tagged with the nonsense that teddy k babbled about “osama, obama”? At least give credit where credit is due. Teddy has become embarrassing to even his staffers. I wonder if he will vote to approve Alioto to the court?
Libertarian @ 27
“I’d say the economy [is not] so much of a problem.”
Not so much?
Excerpts:
Inflation-adjusted hourly and weekly wages are still below where they were at the start of the recovery in November 2001. Yet, productivity—the growth of the economic pie—is up by 13.5%.
…median household income (inflation-adjusted) has fallen five years in a row and was 4% lower in 2004 than in 1999, falling from $46,129 to $44,389.
The personal savings rate is negative for the first time since WWII.
The United States has only 1.3% more jobs today (excluding the effects of Hurricane Katrina) than in March 2001 (the start of the recession). Private sector jobs are up only 0.8%. At this stage of previous business cycles, jobs had grown by an average of 8.8% and never less than 6.0%.
The unemployment rate is relatively low at 5%, but still higher than the 4% in 2000. Plus, the percent of the population that has a job has never recovered since the recession and is still 1.3% lower than in March 2001. If the employment rate had returned to pre-recession levels, 3 million more people would be employed.
The poverty rate rose from 11.3% in 2000 to 12.7% in 2004….The number of people living in poverty has increased by 5.4 million since 2000.
Households are spending more on health care. Family health costs rose 43-45% for married couples with children, single mothers, and young singles from 2000 to 2003.
Nearly 3.7 million fewer people had employer-provided insurance in 2004 than in 2000.
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It’s true people didn’t understand until the late 1800s that germs and viruses are the mechanisms that spread disease, but as early as the Middle Ages, they knew people could get sicks from contact with someone who had the disease.
For this reason, the American colonies had quarantine laws from the beginning: “As early as 1647, port towns in the American colonies, such as Philadelphia, Boston, Salem, New York, and Charleston, enacted laws forbidding people with smallpox to enter port.(4)” http://hnn.us/articles/7302.html
And in 1763, Sir Jeffrey Amherst, commander of British forces in North America, wrote to Colonel Henry Bouquet at Fort Pitt: “You will do well to try to inoculate the Indians [with smallpox] by means of blankets, as well as to try every other method, that can serve to extirpate this execrable race.” Traders at Fort Pitt then gave blankets from the fort’s hospital to Indians, and one wrote in his journal: “I hope it will have the desired effect.” http://hnn.us/articles/7302.html
Although scholars disagree over how many Indians lived in North America before Europeans arrived, they agree the Indian population declined as a result of European settlement, and that most of it resulted from Indians getting the white man’s diseases. How much of the transmission of these diseases was deliberate or unintentional may depend on the political bias or agenda of the person(s) interpreting the historical record, but that record and logic argue it was largely accidental. However, as noted above, there are some documented examples of efforts to intentionally infect Indian groups for the purpose of getting rid of them, and pro-Indian activists have exploited these cases to argue their “Indian genocide” theory of history. A more objective approach would acknowledge the evidence does not support the notion of a premeditated, intentional, systematic, and prolonged effort to wage biological warfare against the Indians. However, the white conquest of the aboriginal peoples is an undeniable historical fact.
As for the second part of your post, “BTW: when was the last time YOU made a deal and said: ‘Wait, that’s not payment enough, here’s more money.'” I get the impression you think the white man’s government made deals with the Indians the latter broke. It was exactly the other way around. It was the white who, in case after case, violated the treaties. That’s where the expression “Indian giving” came from: Reneging on promises made to Indians was so commonplace that it became a standing joke and figure of speech in white culture. It also must be kept in mind that the white man’s ideas of property and contract were alien to Indian culture, and not understood by 18th and 19th century Indians. Also, the treaties were not “deals” in any voluntary sense; they were imposed unilaterally and at gunpoint, and the Indians were in the position of accepting whatever the whites chose to inflict on them.
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“The economy isn’t so bad. The housing market is doing well. The stock market has made some nice gains and looks to continue to improve. The Fed is easing on their bias towards raising interest rates.”
The economy isn’t so good for people who have to pay these skyrocketing housing prices, or have to live on wages instead of stock market gains, but you wouldn’t know anything about living in that segment of society would you.
Big Daddy – Thanks for fixing the typo, but I really don’t think the economy is as much of a problem from my perspective. When you get right down to it, it’s a matter of personal opinion. I’m hoping my retirment accounts keep growing and the taxes stay in check. That’s all. I don’t much worry about what think tanks are saying.
How’s your personal economy going?
Job creation flat; wages stagnant; health care costs skyrocketing and employers dumping health and pension plans; pension defaults; bankruptcy laws changed to saddle consumers with medical debts for life; there’s just damned little for wage earners to like about this bloodsucking the-poor-be-damned administration.
PS –
I’d like to see this Iraq thing wrapped up this year. Time to declare victory and leave.
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” really don’t think the economy is as much of a problem from my perspective.”
No, I don’t imagine it is. That’s the whole problem — you see things “from MY perspective.” Self-centeredness and disregard for the welfare of others is the hallmark of conservatism.
MY, ME, I — I’ve got mine, pull up the ladder, screw you = Republican.
Hey, Roger, you obviously have me confused with someone who gives a sh*t what you, a “guvmint” attorney, thinks. If you’re so concerned about the economy and the poor, then YOU do something about it, since you’ve got a nice, cushy, government job.
Roger Rabbit = f***king idiot.
Ta ta for now!
49.
Maybe Libertarian and Sveni are aliases in your equation.
I’m not having much sympathy for the Indian Tribes on the Abramoff scam. They want their cas=inos and know that with enough money in the right places, they can get them. They almost had Gregoire, but the publicity got out there, and the deal fell through. They spend huge sums in California to get their gam=bling rights, and it is paying off for them. So, don’t think they are being taken advantage of.
Smoker@21 Hmm. Both Cowper and Jenner would have been surprised at your assertion. True Koch and Pasteur actually observed the micro-organisms later . . but really, Spinoza and Hooke had usable microscopes TWO HUNDRED years before the genocidal distribution of blankets, and well after the established practice of quarantining ships “with fever”. People well understood contagion without the full details of the mechanism. Try reading Daniel Defoe’s “The Year of the Plague” about the plague in London, in the 1600’s.
Maybe you moonbats can delude yourselves into thinking that tribe money and Abramhoff money are different. The rest of us know better. Goofy thinking like this is why we’re just ecstatic that you picked Howard Dean to lead your party.
Voter Advocate@19. I wholeheartedly concur. I was briefly introduced to her as she first campaigned. She has little regard for ‘theory’, but give her something nuts and bolts, like a budget, to sink her teeth into, and stand aside!
I also met Rod Chandler at the same time, and listened to this total peacock denigrate Patty. After his defeat he had less to say, and looked for all the world like a gut-shot deer.
Tree and Advocate – I’ve lost track. Does Senator Dimbulb still proclaim to “speak for the salmon because they can’t speak for themselves”. I guess it’s too bad fish don’t have lips huh?
And is she still praising terrorists?
When are the elections for “No Rocket Scientist”. I think they’re soon. Do you think she can go for a record 5thpeat?
And did we ever settle the issue of whether Dimbulb is dumber than DiFi? I don’t think we did…
I dont know about Murray speaking for salmon but I know when it comes to daycare centers in the Middle East she is as tough as they come. She is truely a senator for the ages.
Dorgan and Reid are both on the Top 5 list. 3 R’s and 2 D’s…..
I’m glad Howard Dean is the Dems top Gun. He shot himself in the ass…..again.
You guys just can’t get over the fact Murray kicked Nethercutt’s butt all the way back to Spokane, can you? Eat shit, pukes!
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Good job, Danny.
Moonbat@14: Roger Rabbit@11 Dubya sez”Obama? Osama? They’r the same. aren’t they?
Comment by Tree Frog Farmer— 1/11/06 @ 11:22 am
That would be Ted Kennedy in January 2005. “Kennedy also mangled the name of the Democrats’ new star, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, calling him “Osama bin … Osama … Obama.””
Listen here Moonbat@14: http://www.c-span.org/VideoArc.....038;Page=2
Moonbat@14, what a real dingleberry!
Maybe Ted Chappaquiddick Kennedy was speaking to the Washington Press Club under water?
I remember the Swimmer introducing Clinton back in the 90’s at a fundraiser in his own state. The guy was incoherent. You got to love the swimmer just for the buffoon cartoon character he is.
RUFUS – You are correct. And didn’t Dimbulb also say OBL builds hospitals and roads too? I think so…
So who do you think is dumber; Dimbulb or DiFi? Or do you have another candidate?
RUFUS if he was incoherent he must have been about the same as all of our pet trolls here, including yourself
64
No just drunk, which is the normal state for him and most of you donks.
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I give to Dimbulb. Patty has that look that discounts her from the get go. Patrick the star fish looks like he has more going on then her.
Yah, you don’t know what the hell you are talking about:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....3400.shtml
Hmmm
Poor white men overwhelmed by indian tribes…
Before Gambling came along, the tribes in WA tried to use their traditional fishing rights (from the Stevens treaty) for subsistence fishing and sale to the same fish merchants buying from the white fisheries using bank to bank nets and traps further downstream. The Yakama nation went to the supreme court 7 times and each time the treaty was upheld. The Republicans in WA state including Dan Evans in the 60’s to Slade Gorton in the 80’s have tried to rob the tribes of whatever means of income they have attempted. The fight by repubs against indian gambling is just the most current.
This is one reason why political contributions by tribes to republicans should be viewed with a bit more skepticism than those made to Democrats, especially Democrats who defeated “the last indian fighter” Slade Gorton.
http://www.alphacdc.com/sapadawn/lastwar1.html
Mr. Cynical @ 62
“Dorgan and Reid are both on the Top 5 list.”
Wow, you GOTTA stop reading the Washington Times. They’re NEVER right.
HEre’s check out the real story: “The Justice Department is not focusing on Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada as part of an investigation of lobbyist Jack Abramoff, a source close to the probe said Wednesday in challenging a published report…”
See, now we have two opposing anonymous sources. Yours is canceled.
This is just more RoveCo spin. Deal with the facts. NO ONE is being investigated because of receiving campaign contributions. They are being investigated for taking bribes, taking kickbacks, misusing public assets, and so on. If you think that you have something on Harry, out with it. Otherwise, the WaTimes’ RoveCo-sponsored leaks don’t qualify.
Good column, I think Westneat is good and enjoy reading his stuff.