Am I getting old (yes!) or has everyone stopped using headphones all of a sudden (also yes?)? In just the last few weeks on the bus, on the ferry, walking around, riding a bike. Come on, everyone. Just, like, I don’t know, do the thing we’ve been doing for decades. If I wanted to hear whatever you’re listening to louder than the podcast I’m listening to now, it’s 2021, I could make that happen.
Anyway, please wash your hands right now. And get vaccinated if you’re eligible and haven’t been yet.
QAnon Shaman sentenced to 41 months for his role on Jan 6 insurrection.
To bad for him, he won’t be able to vote in the the POTUS sweepstakes.
He now has made a new name for himself: “QAnon Shaman – Convicted Felon”
I’m glad the courts decided to make an example of him.
1
It’s too bad they won’t do the same for the Black Looting Marxists felons.
2,
Which ones? Can you help us out with names, dates, and any supporting evidence?
Because, in the case of Mr. Chanley he dressed himself and painted his face in an unmistakable fashion, then he filmed himself committing felonies, bragged about it on social media in real time, and then confessed to it later when interviewed by the FBI
This truly is an #owngoal.
“One of many”.
How big a joke is Building Back Better? WaPo would like you to know that
The second-biggest program in the Democrats’ spending plan gives billions to the rich
That’s the cost of ending the SALT limitation. There isn’t one low-income US resident who benefits from this tax deduction, beyond its current limit. The unlimited version of it is all for rich people, particularly those in blue states.
People like HA’s resident dumb twat YLB cheer BBB because they really have no fucking idea what’s in it. What’s in it is pain for YLB’s boys and payoff for me and people like me.
Go ahead and pass it.
I can wait.
There’s a rumor on the right that Harris is soon going to be out. It’s sourced to Fox.
Lemme know when it’s sourced to Jill.
5 people are saying
@2 They have, and will continue to. Rule of law is even-handed, dipshit. It applies the same to everyone. Our judges, of all political persuasions, are together on that. But people who don’t believe in it aren’t as likely to notice.
@4 Yes, to you, helping single mothers with child care so they can return to the workforce and fill some of those vacant school bus driver slots is a “joke.” Because you’re a joke.
@5 Last I heard, she was elected to a 4-year term, and nobody can fire her (except Congress, by impeachment).
@6 … 4 if you don’t count Doctor Dumbfuck, although at this time I don’t have the names of the other 4
#youbuiltthat
Bob waited. Trump was impeached.
Bob waited. Biden won.
Bob waited. Trump was impeached again.
Bob waited. McCabe won.
Bob waited. Biden Democrats passed $2 trillion American Rescue.
Bob waited. Biden Democrats passed $1 trillion infrastructure plan.
The more Bob waits the better things get.
Gosh. Where to begin?
Pizza, or “Whitey” tape, or laptop, or “lekshun fraud”, or JOO SPACE LASER, or “FB friends in CO”?
@5
Lots of rumors on the right:
1) Massive voter fraud (no proof)
2) Trump won (actually, he lost)
3) Trump will get reinstated (multiple dates give, none actually have happened)
I could go on and on, but what is the point? The “right” is usually wrong and full of fanciful thinking.
You fuck your horse (or donkey).
@13
I like the one about the secret server in Germany that stole the election and ended up with the CIA Director going there to check it out, only to be captured and held prisoner. Sydney Powell, believing it, pleaded with the Pentagon to send a commando team there to rescue her.
@11 Well, he does have an argument of sorts. The rich liberal states don’t have state highways that look like this.
And never mind that “rich liberal states” pay more taxes than Third World Shitholes like Mississippi. Another principle is at work. Who said, “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs” or something like that. And needless to say, the “rich liberal states” aren’t the needy beggars among our constellation of states.
@14 It’s impossible for me not to believe she was sane at some point in her life, namely when she took the bar exam, because insane people can’t pass that test. Something happened to her later, maybe a frozen turd from an airplane, or stopping abruptly at a red-light-camera intersection without her seatbelt on, or Dumbfuck’s horse. I just can’t believe she wasn’t a different person in the past.
“[Judge] Schroeder said he has handled alternates this way since a case in Racine about 20 years ago …. ‘Ever since that case, I’ve had an almost universal policy of having the defendant do the things … I think people feel better when they have control,’ said Schroeder.”
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-verdict-watch-11-17-21/h_04578c066a37ca5cacf3fa99b3ab1e2d
Criminal defendants are supposed to feel good? And control their trials? I’ve never heard that theory before.
None of y’all HA libbies minded when Kinzinger was frozen out by Illinois Democrats. Keep that in mind, bitches.
A couple o’ VA Dems will be workin’ harder to win their districts in 2022 than they worked in 2020.
Spanberger was one of the Dem holdouts who didn’t sign that “commitment” by other moderate-ish Dems to vote for BBB if Pelosi & Co. could pervert the CBO’s numbers to everyone else’s satisfaction. Voting for BBB, which will then die in the Senate, means she can kiss her seat goodbye.
This dead hero had a legal right to carry a firearm, and use it to defend himself and others from a maniacal cop killer.
It’s too bad one of the responding officers mistook him for the maniacal cop killer. That’s a real shame.
Accidents happen.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/us/concealed-open-carry-guns-police/index.html
POS libbies are indoctrinated while still young and impressionable.
Allegations of bigotry and calls for impeachment rock College Democrats
Bernie was big on college campuses, and Goldy thought BernieBros were racist. I didn’t. But I’m not paid by a billionaire to shill, ultimately, for the DNC.
@18 A Republican troll whining about redistricting, how quaint.
@21 You will never see this happen in the College Republicans, because (a) racism, bigotry, anti-Semitism, and Islamophobia are perfectly fine in that group, and (b) they’re too busy ripping off senior citizens to worry about such things.
I fished this item out of the Spokane news.
“This spring, the Washington Legislature passed a law changing how local governments structure their public health boards. Gov. Jay Inslee praised the bill as he signed it, saying it would ‘take politics out of public health.’”
So here’s what Spokane County Commissioners, all Republicans, did:
“The Spokane County commissioners voted to cut down the county Board of Health from 12 to eight members and eliminate the five seats representing the cities of Spokane and Spokane Valley. … The commissioners will now have three of eight seats, and they’ll personally appoint four of the remaining five members.”
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/nov/16/spokane-county-commissioners-reduce-size-of-board-/
This is what farmers running cities looks like.
It’s not thinking, it is manipulative brainwashing of the Dumbfucks
Bob is a troll with nothing to say. He’d burn the earth on fire if he could.
21,
College Republicans throw a huge campus party to celebrate the anniversary of Kristallnacht and RNC shrugs.
“What is so hard, what is so hard about saying that this is wrong? This is not about me. This is not about Rep. Gosar. But, this is about what we are willing to accept.”
AOC hit the nail on the head “what’s so hard about saying ‘this is wrong’?”
The GOPs unwavering inability to hold their own accountable is absolutely the downfall of our political system. It’s an autocracy and their base loves it. It’s eternally disheartening.
What’s sad is their counter is basically, “if we cant joke about harming our coworkers, what can we joke about?!”
The Quinnipiac poll is traditionally considered slightly favorable to Democrats. Meaning the numbers for First Vegetable Joe Biden and for House Dems hoping to keep their seats next year may be worse than the Q-poll reports
The First Vegetable is looking weak.
Also in the poll:
• Only 27% of men approve of the First Vegetable.
• A majority of Americans think First Vegetable Joe Biden’s a dishonest POS.
And it’s only November!
Don’t expect Manchin to be persuaded in the least by the likes of AOC or YLB.
First Vegetable Joe Biden’s approval rating in West Virginia is only 32%.
Manchin’s is 60%.
74% of poll respondents think Manchin should oppose BBB.
So where’s your influence on him, libbies? Gonna ruin his next houseboat visit? Oooh. So brave.
I think Steve may be a Minor-Attracted Person. This is worrisome to The Even Bigger Fucking Moron, who possesses a Minor Person’s level of intelligence.
Also worried is YLB, who possesses both a Minor Person’s level of maturity and a vagina.
Accountable to what?
Republicans believe in violence as a means of protecting and advancing their political aims.
This is just a normal part of their political ideology now, fully inculcated into their everyday discourse, including joke memes and cartoons. But also including the stockpiling of weapons arsenals and ammunition, building pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails, and regularly issuing threats and warnings about “going to war”, “unleashing the Kraken”, etc. This is just who they are now.
America is trapped in an abusive relationship with a political spouse who regularly gets drunk and threatens to annihilate the family.
From the network of Little George:
Good and hard, libbies deserve what’s comin’.
Been following the status of Amtrak 503 this morning. So far, no bad news coming over the BNSF Centralia North Channel.
Most status updates show it running at under 30 along the Bypass near DuPont. Seems like it’s doing o.k. In the area where the tragedy happened.
@ 32
Republicans believe in violence as a means of protecting and advancing their political aims.
The CHAZ “Summer of Love” was a Republican event.
The burning of Minneapolis and the burning of Kenosha were Republican events. Just barbecue gatherings gone awry is all.
Go ahead and keep believing what you believe, QoS McHillbilly. The Wisconsin National Guard isn’t being mobilized to protect the city against rampaging Republicans, but you do you, Comrade.
@ 28
What’s sad is their counter is basically, “if we cant joke about harming our coworkers, what can we joke about?!”
Not quite. It’s more along the lines of, “Hire the handicapped; it’s fun to watch ’em work.”
It’s fun to watch you spew your stupidity, The Even Bigger Fucking Moronv.
When he’s lucid, he’s a coward.
White House Reporters Call Out Biden For Skipping Traditional Joint Presser With Trudeau and Obrador
It’s a Mediaite story but the quote is from CBS News. The latter shamed the cowardly First Vegetable into some pre-selected question-answering, after all:
By not participating as part of a three-leader session, First Vegetable Joe Biden avoids saying something that might cause a response from the others.
He’s a coward. Our president is an incontinent coward.
Sez our resident expert on the construction of straw armies.
Democratic leaders have not spoken in support of “burning Minneapolis” or street assaults. Democratic leaders do not valorize and compliment Nazis who march with Tiki torches chanting “Death to Kikes!”. It’s your brand and it really doesn’t matter what you or I believe. It just is what it is. All the video speaks for itself.
I’m just here to remind my fellow Democrats about who Republicans have become and why it’s important to recognize it in all circumstances. The American family still has to pay the mortgage, and get the kids off to school somehow. Even while Republicans rage about “dry toast” or “bad coffee” while waiving a handgun and sobbing like bitches. There’s “coping” and then there’s “coping well”.
Censuring a House member who cracks jokes about killing rival politicians is “coping well”. What it is not is censorship. Gosar is perfectly free to continue issuing threats of violence to rival politicians. He just can’t do it from a seat in a committee room.
Actually, the acts of First Vegetable Joe Biden and elected Democrats are doing that. In real time.
Absolutely, watch. Watch carefully as the president “works around” the Constitution and as Democrats plot to work around the Senate parliamentarian.
This is why y’all will lose. This is why y’all deserve to lose.
I’m no longer expecting a free and fair election from republicans. We will see if a majority of voters chose to be a dictatorship. By choice or by not voting.
The latest episode of the South Dakota Scam Saga appears to have concluded.
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2021-11-16/noems-daughter-says-shes-quitting-real-estate-business
Under pressure from fellow Republican lawmakers seeking documents investigating the arrangements made by Gov. Noem, Noem’s daughter has now published the document and announced she is quitting the real estate business.
Noem’s daughter had repeatedly failed the state exam to be a real estate appraiser. (Math and stuff). So the Gov got mad and called the state agency folks into her office to yell at them for making her daughter cry. They begged forgiveness and by way of atonement, and in fear of the Gov’s terrible, wrathful anger, they signed a formal agreement to give her daughter as many do-overs as she needed and also to fire the agency manager who had transgressed. The agency manager sued and got a sweet $200,000 taxpayer cash poultice to sooth her butt hurtz. Noem’s daughter eventually got her license but not before the whole thing had blown up because of the unlawful firing.
And thus ends to greater political ambitions of the latest version of GOP Caribou Barbie. Character is destiny.
@ 38
Democratic leaders have not spoken in support of “burning Minneapolis” or street assaults.
No, but Democrat leaders have spoken of giving rioters “space to destroy”. Baltimore mayor.
Democrat leaders have spoken of staying in the streets and getting more confrontational. Octagenarian Maxine.
Democrats are proud of violence as long as it’s perpetrated to the left and not directly tied to their elected leaders.
Own it, QoS McHillbilly.
@ 41
…GOP Caribou Barbie.
Perhaps so.
Meanwhile, the Democrats’ real Barbie, Kirsten Gillibrand, is hot on the trail of UFOs today.
DEFENSE
‘This is urgent’: Bipartisan proposal for UFO office pushes new boundaries
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand says in an exclusive interview she is concerned about the impact of encounters on military personnel.
Small wonder she’s YLB’s fave senator. They’re both airheads with XX chromosomal composition.
I can guess where she stores her light saber.
I’ll own it.
A hundred thousand peaceful Minnesotans took to the streets on the first day of protests after watching a Minneapolis cop sport-murder a black man by kneeling on his wind pipe until he died.
Police immediately reacted with a well rehearsed series of escalation and suppression tactics including “kettling”, blockades, and chemical weapons deployed on peaceful protesters. While behind the scenes the MPD continued to release false statements about the murder.
People shouldn’t riot and loot. Big city police departments should not incite rioting and looting as a way to distract and cover up their own accessory after the fact involvement in murder.
When democratically elected civilian leaders lose command authority over the police agencies they hire and fund, it’s not unreasonable to demand that police withdraw from some areas.
It’s a prudent response to prevent more police sport-murders.
Contrast this with police responses to Republican white nationalists rampaging in cities all across the U.S. by assisting them in identifying groups to attack, communicating with them to avoid arrest, and coordinating their movements. Little surprise really, considering how many of the rampaging Republican white nationalists have turned out to be off-duty police.
“Maybe bring along some knives you can plant so you can claim self-defense”. Own that.
Democrats want to decimate their numbers in Congress while giving me a tax break. Who am I to object?
Dems agonize over tax cuts for rich: ‘Bad policy, bad politics’
You don’t hear QoS McHillbilly say much about this. After all, Oregon has a fairly substantial property tax, and there’s a state income tax. Add up all of the other taxes that can be deducted (there are a bunch that can be called state or local tax) and he’s well over $10,000. He’ll benefit, directly, from passage of BBB if it includes SALT limitation repeal.
BBB is a wealth transfer. Just not in the way Democrat voters think.
YLB, we could save the trouble of bill passage and your kids could cut checks to QoS McHillbilly and to me directly, if you prefer.
So far with the Point Defiance Bypass, no problems this morning. Not long after I posted, heard over the scanner “Amtrak ***(Dispatchers use the lead locomotive number, not Amtrak’s train number) Approach Medium at Centennial “. Centennial Station, station code OLW, is the first station south of where 501 derailed. Next up will be 500 from Portland, and Train 11 to Los Angeles.
Interesting about Centennial, it’s one of the few, possibly only, Amtrak Stations staffed by volunteers. The others are staffed by employees or not at all. The infrastructure bill includes a provision that sets new guidelines to prevent Amtrak from de staffing stations.
MSNBC: Domestic terrorists.
and
and
• Jury intimidation by a major left-leaning news organization.
• Prosecutorial misconduct, multiple instances.
• Loud protests and fighting resulting in arrests just outside the courthouse.
And QoS McHillbilly has nothing to say.
Court video and/or photography captured an image of the prosecutor’s laptop, which shows that he has two software programs on it that can manipulate video.
I’ve heard of neither program. They aren’t on my Macbook Pro, and they aren’t on my Dell PC.
45,
You’re still full of shit, constructing fake “FB friends in CO” and straw men to defeat.
I’ve said enough. Elimination of the cap is good policy and good politics. People who yearn for “returning control of their lives to local government” should welcome it. People who believe in “expanding the social safety net” should welcome it. It supports both of those things.
Keeping more of our filthy liberal hippie money here at home in our filthy liberal hippie states and cities is a good thing for all of us rich filthy liberal hippies.
This is the New Federalism. Best wishes to Island County and it’s rising tide of P2P and roadside trash disposal.
49,
Constructing conspiracies even before the verdict is in could be regarded as a sign of flagging enthusiasm for your beloved MAGAteen.
Ironic, that Rep. Gaetz has made a job offer, if you think about it.
47,
Nick Rekieta?
Isn’t he the lawyer turned blogger who lost his license to practice for recruiting an online mob to disrupt courts in Texas on behalf of a pedophile?
I’m just asking questions.
@ 52
I’m just asking questions.
As long as you are in that mode, QoS McHillbilly, you might ask what (MS)NBC might possibly be doing by trailing a van containing jurors outside of their formal deliberations or court-sanctioned site visit.
What is the journalistic value? A reasonable argument could be made that it was intended to intimidate the jurors into believing that their identities would be revealed by the media.
And what would be the purpose of that?
It’s unfortunate that it was Drudge who dropped the Monica bomb. It’s unfortunate that it was Drudge who took down John Edwards. Not having a particularly good reputation didn’t make him inaccurate in those instances.
Shooting the messenger is beneath you, unless it’s all you’ve got.
Or to contact their families before the verdict. Whatevs.
No. Not really.
Freelance photographers do all kinds of idiotic shit.
Some go into war zones and try to get pictures of civilians being blown up by drone strikes. Doesn’t make them spies or “terrorists”.
You choices of sources says far more about you and your internet habit than it says about the credibility of the source. I won’t be surprised if I eventually learn that an MSNBC producer offered to pay a freelancer to get a photo of a juror. And B4 you and your 8chan girlfriends completely lose your shit, you might take a brief moment to consider if a mistrial is really in MAGAteen’s best interest. New trial, new prosecutor, new judge.
As always, Dumbfuck, you stupid motherfuckers are your own worst enemies. Nobody is conspiring against you except YOU.
54,
Earlier your sources identified the person as a freelance photographer. Now another one of your sources is identifying the person as a “reporter”?
Didn’t you earlier lean into Posobiec as a “source”?
The same Posobiec who claimed to have a leaker in the jury room?
And then told you the leaker was a U.S. Marshall?
Working protective detail in a state superior court trial?
You poor thing. You’re being bounced around like a fucking pinball and all you really want to do is give Kyle a great big hug.
Pelosi: Tax cut? What tax cut?
Given your obvious addiction to ignorant speculations about every minute detail of the trial and subsequent deliberations I should think the answer to that would be fairly obvious.
I don’t honestly know why idiots like you find this stuff so engaging that you remain rooted into your seats and end up soiling yourselves. I only know that in America this is a thing.
Hello, Poop Girl!
@ 56
Didn’t you earlier lean into Posobiec as a “source”?
The same Posobiec who claimed to have a leaker in the jury room?
And then told you the leaker was a U.S. Marshall?
Working protective detail in a state superior court trial?
Did I do all those things? I recall reading about most of that and electing not to mention it. Busy week, so I might be wrong, but I doubt it. Gotta link to catch me and call me a liar? If so, I’ll cop to it.
Must have been someone on your reddit page, QoS McHillbilly.
@56 all you really want to do is give Kyle a great big hug
Somehow I don’t think that is all Dumbfuck wants to do to Kyle.
@ 58
I don’t honestly know why idiots like you find this stuff so engaging…
If Fox News had been thrown out of the courtroom in the Chauvin trial, QoS McHillbilly, you would not have found anything “engaging” about that? Methinks you would still be talking about it.
So Bob, straight up from you: is what Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) did with regards to his video acceptable behavior for a member of the U.S. House of Representatives?
A simple “yes” or “no” is all that is being asked.
I bet you can’t do it.
Sometimes it’s just better for civilian command authorities to just remove police from a situation entirely before things get out of hand.*
Former Chancellor Linda Katehi can tell you all about it.
Katehi erroneously believed that as Chancellor she was in charge of police and could give them orders. They cleared that up for her. And she lost her $425,000 a year job.
Had she simply ordered the campus police to go away she’d still have her job, and nobody’s child would have been hosed down with chemical weapons for the sadistic pleasure of degenerate cops.
*You may have to squint a little, but I think if you look very closely you can see the “credible fear” in Lt. Pike’s eyes
61,
Sorry, Dumbfuck. I didn’t watch that trial either.
You would have to pay me to watch a trial. There’s nothing entertaining about them. One way or another, lives are being ruined. Nothing about a trial is ever ennobling or uplifting.
Whether it’s My cousin Vinny or The Verdict, these are just make believe stories.
With perhaps one possible exception in the case of the later, Paul Newman film.
There’s a scene where James Mason is paying off Charlotte Rampling for helping him fix the trial for his client, a greedy, corrupt insurance company fighting a malprac claim.
“You wanted back into the law?”
Welcome back.”
Probably not a day goes by I don’t hear that line in my head delivered only the way James Mason could.
@29 “Americans say 46 – 38 percent they would want to see the Republican Party …”
The same 46 percent who voted for Trump. As I’ve said before, half the population has below-average intelligence.
There’s nothing new here. This isn’t a change.
@30 You mean “74% of poll respondents” IN WEST VIRGINIA, A DEEP-RED TRUMPER STATE, “think Manchin should oppose BBB.”
Putting in your material omissions changes the meaning and significance of that poll a bit, don’t you think?
Some people might call it lying.
@33 “I don’t think I would ever vote Democrat again.”
Which means voting for political violence, coups, wild conspiracy theories, racism and bigotry, corruption, rampant law-breaking, and all the other filth Republicans wallow in.
@35 “The Wisconsin National Guard isn’t being mobilized to protect the city against rampaging Republicans”
Sure about that? There’s likely more Kyle Rittenhouses out there.
@36 “Not quite. It’s more along the lines of, ‘Hire the handicapped; it’s fun to watch ’em work.'”
Next he’s going to insult people with Down’s Syndrome, because vicious trolling is what he lives for.
@39 And manipulating district boundaries to give a violent and irresponsible minority a voting majority in legislative chambers is somehow good?
In 2018, Republicans got 44% of the votes for State Assembly to the Democrats’ 53%, which gave Republicans 64 of the 99 seats — is that something to celebrate?
For a fascist like you, yes it is.
@40 A “majority” has nothing to do with it.
@42 “Democratic leaders have not spoken in support of ‘burning Minneapolis’ or street assaults.”
“No, …”
… and the rest of your comment is superfluous fluff that any decent editor would red-pencil.
@45 Except raising the $10,000 SALT cap is a middle class tax cut in places like New York and California, where an $890,000 home with $11,000 of annual property taxes is a 2 BR, 1 BA, 900 sq. ft. bungalow needing repairs.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/249-Wilson-St_San-Francisco_CA_94112_M22241-02943
On top of his other faults (i.e., supporting political violence and killers, being a liar, disparaging handicapped people, and fucking horses), Doctor Dumbfuck is intellectually dishonest.
@53 “As long as you are in that mode, QoS McHillbilly, you might ask what (MS)NBC might possibly be doing by trailing a van containing jurors outside of their formal deliberations or court-sanctioned site visit.”
Covering a story?
“What is the journalistic value? A reasonable argument could be made that it was intended to intimidate the jurors into believing that their identities would be revealed by the media.”
A reasonable argument also could be made that he was just trying to get a story. Maybe not one you agree with, but did he violate a law, or a judge’s order? And if so, why was he only cited for running a red light? And I’d like to know how you “intimidate a jury” from a block behind.
The MSNBC stringer may have been out of line, but it seems to be you’re stretching. A lot.
@59 “Busy week,”
Could be interesting to speculate what that is. We know you didn’t spend it healing patients. What else could it be?
Why they need the National Guard in Kenosha.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-ar-15-rifle-kenosha-courthouse-says-former-ferguson-officer-rcna6084
I went to the local school board meeting tonight where my kids go. It had only two themes. There is filth in the school library and their kids have to stop being forced to wear masks.
Woman after woman brought the church lynch mob of howler monkeys to a fever pitch of call and response. “You guys are cowards” some guy bellowed from the back row to applause. There was the occasional “AMEN” and “How could they?” from the crowd behind me.
Every book that described any hint of what gay boys do sexually brought a special venom. Books about being trans were considered equally bad.
They said these books was obscene, filth, child porn, illegal under state law. One women mangled a metaphor to say that books with bad words were like koolaid laced with phentenol. More than one repeated the victimhood line of “Pornography is Included in the library. God is removed from the library.”
One woman hinted since the board didn’t remove these offensive books, the board could only be secret pedophiles
Diversity and inclusion and activism were used as slurs.
The other theme was attacking mask wearing in school. They said test scores down because of masks. Their kids could breathe. Their kids were being emotionally stunted. Only 20 kids in the country actually died of COVID. When will covid end they complained?
@77
It is a shame that school board meetings have devolved to this. I’m certainly glad I don’t have school-age kids.
COVID-19 will never “end”, it will greatly subside when the ignorant spreaders finally die off.
The only people I personally know that have contracted COVID-19 are all evangelical Christians (I am not an evangelical Christian by the way). I know 5 personally, one died, the other recovered but were all very sick. None were vaccinated. My sample pool is small, sure, but the stats speak for themselves. Still, the evangelicals push that vaccines are not worth it and masks don’t stop the spread. They also all believe that we are in “the end times.”
I just shake my head, avoid them, and were my mask to be safe. A mask alone may not stop COVID-19, but it greatly reduces transmission of droplets that can carry the virus. You simply cannot reason with them.
Amtrak Cascades 508 from Portland is about to call at Tacoma Dome/Freighthouse Square station. So for the first day of the re-opening of the Point Defiance Bypass, no major incidents affecting the trains. Zack and Jim would have liked it. The train that had the fatal derailment, 501 is still suspended, due to the Pandemic, also, wished 516 could be restored as far as Bellingham, while Customs/COVID protocols are worked out.
77)I heard that some in Texas want one version of the Handmaid’s Tale banned. Guess they don’t people to read where they are getting their ideas. They should read the sequel, Texas is mentioned in passing, that although Gillead claims Texas, the Republic of Texas had fought Gillead to a draw, but is avoiding an invasion by not taking in refugees and not working with the American Government in Exile(In the Hulu series, it’s more of an internal exile, the Capitol is Anchorage).
@78 What’s happening in school board meetings isn’t happening by accident. In The Atlantic, David Brooks writes,
“Christopher Rufo, the architect of this year’s school-board-meeting protests against critical race theory, argued that conservatives had erred when they tried to slowly gain power in elite cultural institutions. Conservatives were never going to make headway in the Ivy League or the corporate media. Instead, Rufo argued, they should rally the masses to get state legislatures to pass laws embracing their values. That’s essentially what’s now happening across red America.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/scary-future-american-right-national-conservatism-conference/620746/
I hadn’t heard of Rufo, so I looked him up on Wikipedia, and this is what I found:
“Christopher F. Rufo (born August 26, 1984) is an American conservative activist. … He is known for his activism against critical race theory, which he says, ‘has pervaded every aspect of the federal government,’ poses ‘an existential threat to the United States,’ and is anti-American. He has been actively involved in Republican efforts to ban or restrict critical race theory instruction or seminars.
“Critical race theory considers the idea that racism is systemic in the United States; Rufo described his strategy to oppose critical race theory as intentionally misusing the term to conflate various left-wing race-related ideas in order to create a negative association. According to Rufo, ‘I am quite intentionally redefining what ‘critical race theory’ means in the public mind, expanding it as a catchall for the new racial orthodoxy. People won’t read Derrick Bell, but when their kid is labled an ‘oppressor’ in first grade, that’s now CRT.’ and ‘The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think ‘critical race theory.'”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Rufo
In other words, stirring up the mob.
@78 What’s happening in school board meetings isn’t happening by accident. In The Atlantic, David Brooks writes,
“Christopher Rufo, the architect of this year’s school-board-meeting protests against critical race theory, argued that conservatives had erred when they tried to slowly gain power in elite cultural institutions. Conservatives were never going to make headway in the Ivy League or the corporate media. Instead, Rufo argued, they should rally the masses to get state legislatures to pass laws embracing their values. That’s essentially what’s now happening across red America.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/scary-future-american-right-national-conservatism-conference/620746/
I hadn’t heard of Rufo, so I looked him up on Wikipedia, and this is what I found:
“Christopher F. Rufo (born August 26, 1984) is an American conservative activist. … He is known for his activism against critical race theory, which he says, ‘has pervaded every aspect of the federal government,’ poses ‘an existential threat to the United States,’ and is anti-American. He has been actively involved in Republican efforts to ban or restrict critical race theory instruction or seminars.
“Critical race theory considers the idea that racism is systemic in the United States; Rufo described his strategy to oppose critical race theory as intentionally misusing the term to conflate various left-wing race-related ideas in order to create a negative association. According to Rufo, ‘I am quite intentionally redefining what ‘critical race theory’ means in the public mind, expanding it as a catchall for the new racial orthodoxy. People won’t read Derrick Bell, but when their kid is labled an ‘oppressor’ in first grade, that’s now CRT.’ and ‘The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think ‘critical race theory.'”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Rufo
In other words, a smart guy is stirring up gullible mobs with lies in order to entrench white supremacy in our laws, government, and culture.
78,
It’s hard to do in a public meeting setting like a school board or other board because of how “comments” from the public are structured, but I believe the way to address this racist, bigoted, culture wars bullshit being flung at these meetings by organized mobs is to clearly label their claims as false.
The repeated tagline, for instance, about “pornography being in the library while God is excluded” is a straight up lie. It has to be called out.
But it has to be called out in the right way. The underlying falsehood in most of these kinds of claims is conflating depiction with indoctrination. They are objecting to depictions of lives, families, and relationships that they personally disagree with. They are demanding to have school libraries, textbooks, and curricula sanitized of any depictions of lives, families, or relationships that they disagree with. They want these lives, families, and relationships annihilated.
But depiction isn’t indoctrination. Stories that depict the lives of African Americans surviving the horrors of slavery are not indoctrination. Reading about such lives won’t make someone African American or a slave. Reading about the life of an astronaut won’t make someone an astronaut. And reading about a same sex couple raising a family won’t make someone gay or lesbian. It’s all a smokescreen.
Meanwhile there are nearly limitless depictions in school libraries, textbooks, and curricula of white, straight, Christian, cisgendered, heterosexual lives. In terms of depictions, the Christian god and the traditions and observances of Christians fucking saturate school library books, textbooks, and curricula.
It’s all a faintly nuanced lie that conceals racism and bigotry.
One speaker accused the school board of being secret pedophiles since they had not pulled the books since the meeting last month.
83. Can I repost your words? You said it eloquently.
I agree with all or nearly all of what QoS McHillbilly wrote, but I think he needs to take it further.
Reading about such lives won’t make someone African American or a slave. Reading about the life of an astronaut won’t make someone an astronaut. And reading about a same sex couple raising a family won’t make someone gay or lesbian. It’s all a smokescreen.
Indeed. Reading about the use of terms commonplace generations ago won’t make someone use those terms in present day.
The Banned Books Project
@Carnegie Mellon University
Harper Lee, “To Kill a Mockingbird”
Let’s be consistent in our considerations of book content and redeeming value thereof.
86. The mob at the school board meeting would have happily banned Huck Finn and to Kill a Mockingbird over the bad words and sex given how they talked about the books on their lists.
I can see why these books would be banned. Too many challenging ideas using what ever means necessary.
The plot of Huckleberry Finn tells the story of two characters’ attempts to emancipate themselves. Huck desires to break free from the constraints of society, both physical and mental, while Jim is fleeing a life of literal enslavement.
To Kill a Mockingbird tells the story of the young narrator’s passage from innocence to experience when her father confronts the racist justice system of the rural, Depression-era South. In witnessing the trial of Tom Robinson, a black man unfairly accused of rape, Scout, the narrator, gains insight into her town, her family, and herself. Several incidents in the novel force Scout to confront her beliefs, most significantly when Tom is convicted despite his clear innocence. The entrenched racism of her town, the unfair conviction and murder of Tom Robinson, and the malice of Bob Ewell all force Scout to acknowledge social inequality and the darker aspects of humanity.
Fox was right!!!!
President Harris! The first female President and Black woman ! Even if just by technicality and momentarily.
Hope Biden has a successful colonoscopy!
Some of the books the conservative mob demand to be removed.
All Boys Aren’t Blue, George M. Johnson
Anger Is a Gift, Mark Oshiro
Black Girl Unlimited, Echo Brown
Crank, Ellen Hopkins
Fences, August Wilson
Flamer, Mike Curato
Gender Queer, Maia Kobabe
Melissa (formerly entitled “George”), Alex Gino
Heavy, Kiese Laymon
Lawn Boy, Jonathan Evison
Living Dead Girl, Elizabeth Scott
Monday’s Not Coming, Tiffany D. Jackson
Out of Darkness, Ashley Hope Pérez
The Bluest Eye, Toni Morrison
The Girl Who Fell from the Sky, Heidi W. Durrow
The Handmaid’s Tale, Margaret Atwood
The Handmaid’s Tale (graphic novel), Renee Nault
The Hate U Give, Angie Thomas
The Testaments, Margaret Atwood
This Book is Gay, Juno Dawson
Where I End and You Begin, Preston Norton
85,
Fine with me. Always.
86,
Let’s be consistent in our considerations of book content and redeeming value thereof.
Also fine with me. Always.
88,
Today is Bob’s day in pure hell. At least for an hour or two.
And thus we learn the reason for the coordinated media campaign building up to today. Gotta put “the skeer” on ’em.
Let’s be consistent in our considerations of book content and redeeming value thereof.
And while I entirely agree with consistency, that does not translate into a slavish devotion to “tradition” nor “past precedent”.
A very big part of this story about a coordinated campaign to leverage working class white fears about identity is the underlying basis for that fear, however misplaced or unfounded it may be.
These people are scared. Their fear is real. But it’s what they are afraid of that is ultimately the problem and describes what is at stake.
Many of these people lead what feel to them like precarious lives. They’ve experienced years and in some cases decades of economic and employment uncertainty. While this has been happening, they’ve watched the culture around them open up in ways that have been challenging to them. A broader commercial culture that previously had been almost entirely exclusively reserved for depictions, portrayals, and stories about lives and identities that either reflected their own lives or reflected their own aspirations was suddenly beginning to make room for other kinds of lives and identities. The space within the culture that is given over to these other different stories and identities feels like loss to these people. And it is an especially sharp feeling of loss for some of them. It’s this sense of loss for example that explains the irrational fury some of these people experience when they encounter someone speaking Spanish or a multi-lingual telephone system.
But library books that depict different types of family life are no more threatening to them in real life than a private conversation on the bus between two speakers of Spanish is to a speaker of English. The challenge is helping these people overcome these irrational fears that are ultimately the result of decades of Republican exploitation and economic abandonment. And doing this while continuing to fight for space in the culture, and in public education for stories that include the true diversity of American life. If you are going to make room for stories about Sojourner Truth you might have to push aside some stories about “Stonewall” Jackson.
83 they are terrified they are no longer the heroes of ALL the stories.
@93 “A very big part of this story about a coordinated campaign to leverage working class white fears about identity is the underlying basis for that fear, however misplaced or unfounded it may be.”
This is the principle on how the bible works so well for those conservative troglodytes. It stokes their fears and tells them it will be “all right” if you just believe in the “word of God.”
The bible is full of hate and violence by the way, and when you point that out to the bible bangers, they just get pissed off and yell at you.
Richard Dawkins, in his book “The God Delusion”, said: ”
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
By all accounts, the Bible should be banned from public school libraries.
Veep currently the de facto prez.
95,
I’m confident that if republican school board protesters applied their own extreme standards without favor, the Bible would also be banned.
@ 95, 97
It’s not?
Colon joke blast from the past:
This joke works for RBG as well. Although y’all might not think that one is funny.
@99
Yes, since 1963. However the zealots want it back.
I have no problem if they want to use a bunch of religious texts to to a comparative religion course, but of course if you let the nose of a camel under the tent….
Just leave the book out and let parents teach it at home or go to a private school.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/19/apollo-quiboloy-charged-sex-trafficking/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6Ijg0ODAwNzQiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjM3MzMzNzA2LCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjM4NTQzMzA2LCJpYXQiOjE2MzczMzM3MDYsImp0aSI6ImMxYTJlMzRlLWI1MTQtNDZkMC04YmQ0LThmYzI2NWE1YzEyOCIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9uYXRpb24vMjAyMS8xMS8xOS9hcG9sbG8tcXVpYm9sb3ktY2hhcmdlZC1zZXgtdHJhZmZpY2tpbmcvIn0.Cf-l6GUhwvDAjTSvW8SuEVbVwdn77aj2m5bMu7Dc0rs
Yes, God works in mysterious ways.
Don’t forget! Hetero, so it is more accepting, being that the Hetero class can go off the rails like they do when it is a about a gay person…..normalizing sex offenses the Hetero way!
Just like when a black man uses a gun, it’s not a second amendment issue anymore.
@ 100
Just leave the book out and let parents teach it at home or go to a private school.
Agreed. You’d be surprised how often that happens, Newt.v
In Wa State
BIBLE IN PUBLIC SCHOOL LIBRARY.
https://www.atg.wa.gov/ago-opinions/bible-public-school-library
Behold the only way Kamala Harris will ever get to run the country:
She’ll need somethin’ bad to happen to the First Vegetable.
Maybe just teach your kids at home, if you don’t like a teacher touching their private parts, it’s as simple as that!
The Bible should have some illustrations of preachers having sex with the little girls. Make it more realistic of a novel.
A prerequisite for parents, when they send off their kids on some sports or camp outing with a teach is to give them condoms.
Parents fault if the kid gets knocked up. Get a real baby sitter if you don’t like having to provide the condoms then.
@ 107
The Bible should have some illustrations of… Make it more realistic of a novel.
I wholeheartedly agree. Let’s start with Leviticus 20:13:
Cuomosexual G-clown, using your rationale, please tell us how you feel about some Old Testament illustrations of homosexual men being relieved of their genitals via sword dissection, and then beheaded.
@ 106
Cuomosexual G-clown maintains that it’s the parents’ responsibility to opt out of unwanted pedophilia experiences by their children.
Behold HA’s most psychotic fuck: the Cuomosexual G-clown.
@109
Hey if I get my illustration of the preacher bopping the little girl, then you can have yours. I have no problem with equality.
Own your sides faults. Stop pretending of your superiority. Breeding will not save you.
Hey, I’m a troll too. A more effective troll than you. Triggered you. Work on it buddy.
Parents are responsible for everything.
Just tell the low income mother working 2 jobs. amirite!
He’s not wrong.
I wonder what the Sandy Hook deniers would think of that.
And you – have you ever spoken out against the fuckwads that think Sandy Hook didn’t happen or was a setup to turn people against the NRA? Or did you just sit there an accept it, by being silent. You can speak now…..don’t me stop you.
Your not a President but you sure are the most Viscous Troll who must be examining your own ass, it’s so far up it. You’ve got your ass up The FuckHunp’s ass too.
89)I read The Testaments, great book. Loved how Aunt Lydia, portrayed as a zealot by Ann Dowd in the Hulu series, was never really for what she was doing. The information she has OffRed’s kids smuggle out, lead to higher-ups turning on each other, leading to purges, a Coup, and an uprising by MayDay. FDR,s summer home on Campabello Island was a refugee center in the book. Was expecting a climatic chase scene there, find out if Gillead was anti-vaxxers. Heard the water there, bad place to swim.
89)I read The Testaments, great book. Loved how Aunt Lydia, portrayed as a zealot by Ann Dowd in the Hulu series, was never really for what she was doing. The information she has OffRed’s kids smuggle out, lead to higher-ups turning on each other, leading to purges, a Coup, and an uprising by MayDay. FDR,s summer home on Campabello Island was a refugee center in the book. Was expecting a climatic chase scene there, find out if Gillead was anti-vaxxers. Heard the water there, bad place to swim.
Sounds like something from the Taliban or ISIS.
American Taliban are so envious.
Friday verdict means Antifa has all weekend to riot.
Fuck around and find out.
120
Not guilty on all counts! It’s a great day for our Constitution and Bill of Rights! Especially the Second Amendment!*
Most of this victory is due to the complete incompetence and arrogance of the prosecuting attorneys. Rittenhouse’s lawyers didn’t win – the prosecuting attorneys lost.
(*Just between you and me, the Second Amendment was one of our BETTER ideas when we wrote the Constitution. Turns our, we were right!)
@122 “Rittenhouse’s lawyers didn’t win – the prosecuting attorneys lost.”
For once I actually agree with you on that statement.
The prosecuting attorney should be fired for gross incompetence.
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@ 123
The prosecuting attorney should be fired for gross
incompetencemisconduct.ftfy
Given the judge i am not surprised
Relevant Twitter comments
The Kyle Rittenhouse verdict just declared open season on left wing protestors.
The Rittenhouse verdict gives them permission to kill. I’ve lost the definition of right and wrong.
To be Black and illegally armed in America means you will be executed by the police or incarcerated if you’re lucky. To be White and illegally armed in America means you can murder two people on camera and go home as a hero.
Now every white asshole with an AR-15 is going to think mowing down protesters is A-OK.
When the judge told the attorneys not to call those Rittenhouse killed as “victims” I stopped paying attention to the trial. The verdict was already made
America is the only country where a white teenager carrying an assault rifle that wasn’t permitted to him, could kill 2 people and barely be charged with anything. While as a Black child would be shot dead for playing with a toy gun
If you are shocked by the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict today literally at all then you haven’t been paying attention to what the protests have been about the whole time.
@ 127
If you are shocked by the verdict you weren’t paying attention to the trial testimony and the video evidence.
I see Bob is getting news fromTweets again, he has a warped sense of reality.
Bob can’t do anything but be a piece of shit.
@128 and you weren’t shocked but the crime.
How do you determine self defense asswipe. What about in Georgia? Who was defending who? Of course the Whities were right? The blackie had no reason to defend himself?
Bob is a piece of lawless piece of shit
I guess I need to defend myself against some Bible Thumper who wants to take the American Taliban view on homosexuality? I’m sure Bob would agree.
Bob you piece of shit
So magateen is magakilla… Its ass is safe.. Future for magakiller:
The young man aspires to be a nurse, he said.
Awwww… heh.. dimfuk can relate…
YLB cheer BBB
Yawwwwn. After the sellouts in the Senate get through with it – it’ll be a shadow of what it could have been.
Elect more liberals, Manchin is right about that – if we can get through the repuke voter suppression.. which is getting ever more difficult.
Holy shit.. I’m livin’ rent-free in dimfuk’s puny skull today. Most days it seems..
Until next time!
124. I pity that sad poor man, to be that broken.
Otherwise Goldy’s daughter, while in the process of being anally raped,
Heh.. the countdown begins…
Life after HA for the seriously vacuous troll – a lonely pathetic “life”.
Tick tock.
Mark Kelly isn’t going to call out Rittenhouse as a white supremacist. The only difference between Rittenhouse and pre-lobotomy Gabby Giffords is that nobody was chasing Gabby Giffords when she was proudly displaying her AR-15.
123,
Careful there. I wish I could tell you that he set a low bar.
But before doing that we have to recall that in our system proving guilt in court in front of jury is seldom part of most criminal prosecutor’s job. Stack ’em up and deal ’em down is how we do it in the U.S.
I can’t comment on any specifics because I did not watch any of the trial. But I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this state’s prosecutor displayed some incompetence about trial strategy or witness prep. Probably doesn’t have much experience.
And as to the charging decisions, this isn’t surprising or exceptional either. In our normal everyday criminal justice system prosecutors routinely bring very serious felony charges with the scantest of evidence. If they knew much about juries or even cared they might think twice. But that isn’t how they operate. They overcharge defendants every single fucking working day of their lives in order to get easy plea agreements.
The whole massive house of cards starts with too many cops, running around enforcing too many criminal laws, almost always selectively upon the poor or the weak and it all flows downhill from there. Everybody is in it for the numbers because that’s how careers are built. What makes lonely, violent, emotionally disturbed MAGAteen exceptional aren’t the facts or circumstances. It was the giant pile of GoFundMe money that paid for competent advocacy. Regular poor people don’t get that.
@120 & 121 Conferring police powers and immunity on a nervous, trigger-happy, immature kid armed with a deadly weapon who traveled from out-of-state to participate in a riot, and proceeded to shoot at 4 people, killing 2 and grievously wounding another, is something only idiots think is a good idea.
Empowering vigilantes can only make our streets a lot bloodier. Rightwing idiots are celebrating. They like that.
Did I miss some important part of this?
Weren’t the unlawful firearms charges noped out early by the judge? The jury never heard any charges having anything to do with the 2nd Amendment IIRC. We have the dumbest trolls.
@ 141
The curfew charge was dropped by the judge mid-trial.
The firearms charge did not apply to Rittenhouse, and was dropped by the judge after closing arguments were completed.
I do not believe there were 2A issues in this trial. There certainly may be in the WI laws that permitted Rittenhouse to open-carry as a minor.
Open carry clearly was not a deterrent to violent criminal behavior by the innocent child’s attackers.
Fuck around and find out. And so they did, all except jump-kick man.
Gee, it’s a good thing MSNBC knows who the jurors are. Now we can see what vigilanteism @ 140 really looks like.
Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit is a fucking useless attorney.
Heh.
Free As Fuck.
We prefer to call it self-defense.
The reason your editor would prevent that, David, is that (s)he has a professional reputation worth protecting. It’s what separates your former editor from you.
@145
Sure, free from legal jeopardy, but remember, a 17 year-old kid did cause the death of two people, albeit in self-defense: don’t you think that memory will stick with him for the rest of his life?
I guess you think those tears on the stand were crocodile tears at best, don’t you?
@ 147
I think it should stick with him. When he becomes a first-responder he’ll already know that there are some situations that are too dangerous to get involved in. Let ’em bleed, let it burn.
If not Rittenhouse, someone else eventually would have killed Rosenbaum. Pedophiles don’t do well in prison.