It is rather depressing how difficult it is to discipline Seattle police officers. The Office of Police Accountability really needs to do a better job of holding officers accountable. It’s not the office it’s fine to throw blast balls at people causing cardiac arrest, or drive into a crowded sidewalk. Jeez.
Anyway, please wash your hands right now, and get vaccinated if you haven’t yet.
If the standard was proving mere stupidity, and that standard was broadly applied, we wouldn’t have any Seattle City Councilmembers.
2020 was last year.
Gee, that was a great All-Star Game played in Atlanta last night, wasn’t it?
Cities will never correct police misbehavior via the criminal legal process. And given the nature of police union collective bargaining agreements they will never correct widespread police misconduct via workplace disciplinary process.
Take away the funding.
As the OIG memo points out, when police agencies are assigned to investigate their own misconduct, their go-to remedy is to carry out a sham investigation lacking in detail and avoiding collection of useful evidence. If police agencies can not be trusted to carry out investigations of their own misconduct, and no other investigatory authority is available, cities will never be able to rely on either the criminal or the disciplinary processes to improve police conduct.
You have to take away their funding.
Carl —
South Seattle Emerald — a nice publication!
This resident of SeaTac actually financially supports them (with a small but regular amount) due to their very local and very diverse coverage.
The district is 63.5% white. The suburban communities along I-75 northeast of Atlanta have some of the most historically restrictive racial covenants and laws in the entire state. It’s about as racially polarized as a legislative district can be. And it was specifically drawn to be a safe Republican district.
I think it’s a good thing to see Republicans focusing on the positives like this. Examples of where, if they can use decades of discrimination and mob violence to exclude people they don’t like, and draw boundaries in a way most favorable to the people they do like, they can still win small, local elections.
@1 We wouldn’t have any trolls, either. Fortunately, HA has no standards when recruiting trolls. That keeps this sewer in business. You ought to know.
@3 If I had to choose between flawed cops or Kyle Rittenhouse patrolling my neighborhood, I still think I’d take the cops. Given such a Hobson’s choice, it’s probably better not to leave a vacuum for people like him to step into.
Enjoy this video of Charles Barkley and Shaq laughing at Jussie Smolett.
I think the only gay liberal who can make Jussie Smolett appear intelligent by comparison is The Even Bigger Fucking Moron.
@5 So is Doctor Dumbfuck saying Trump got 41% in a gerrymandered Republican district full of white racists?
Hard to see an explanation for that unless David Duke was on the ballot as a third-party candidate.
Bastille Day today.
It’s also Tadej Pogacar’s day today.
Pleasenodopingpleasenodopingpleasenodoping…
What office is Jussie Smollett running for? (And learn to spell his name, idiot.)
@ 7
If I had to choose between flawed cops or Kyle Rittenhouse patrolling my neighborhood…
I hope you get Raz Simone patrolling your neighborhood. I hope you get Laura Ruderman’s stepson setting your shithole on fire and smacking you in the back of your dumbfuck skull with a baseball bat.
It’s what you voted for, after all.
@ 12
What office is Jussie Smollett running for?
What office is Kyle Rittenhouse @ 7 running for, you fucking hypocrite?
I did drop a letter from the name of a disgraced celebrity. It’s not nearly as bad as defending GE shares on the strength of the dividend or calling a thug shot several times in his chest while bull-rushing a cop a “fleeing felon”. Is it. Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit.
I guess you need to claim your victories where you find them. Enjoy my misspelling of the name of an idiot. It’s very likely going to end up as the highlight of your week.
7,
Nothing I’m suggesting implies any kind of vacuum.
Police management systems and processes are preoccupied with numbers and statistics. But in the end it is the “expertise” of senior police commanders that gets you a 300% increase in per capita spending on police in your city. And what does all that extra tax money pay for?
Absent a consent decree from the DOJ, what it pays for are fancier and more offices, urban tanks, drone armadas, pretty horsies, an entire division devoted to bicycles, “school resource officers”, arsenals of military grade explosive devices, machine guns, “KILLOLOGY” training, FLIR equipped helicopters, and high speed 4k porn in every patrol car.
It does not place a single addict into treatment.
It does not shelter a single trafficking or DV victim.
In doesn’t fund a single in-patient mental health bed.
And it doesn’t keep the Kyle Rittenhouses of the GOP off the streets. You’ve seen four years of continuously escalating right-wing violence since 2016. Police have done absolutely nothing to reduce or limit any of it. In fact, they assisted with most of it.
@14 This is what a weasel with its foot caught in a trap sounds like.
@15 “You’ve seen four years of continuously escalating right-wing violence since 2016. Police have done absolutely nothing to reduce or limit any of it. In fact, they assisted with most of it.”
Problem is, this is the last police function that will get defunded. Everything else — like protecting neighborhoods, solving crimes, and directing traffic — will go first.
Meanwhile, in Alabama:
Kenneth Paschal wins House District 73 special election
Paschal is the first African-American Republican to be elected to the Alabama Legislature since Reconstruction in the 1870s.
Democrats have more than one derogatory term for individuals such as Mr. Paschal. Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit is going to try to sneak one in, while claming he’s not a racist for doing so.
@ 15
But in the end it is the “expertise” of senior police commanders that gets you a 300% increase in per capita spending on police in your city.
Yeah, overtime has nothing to do with it. It’s too many queen bees and not enough worker bees. When the call for defunding the police is heard, it’s because of the cops who carry pencils, not batons.
Month 1 of the 2020 riots:
Seattle Police Paid $6.3 Million In Overtime Since Protests Began
Durkan promised a Summer of Love. She never said it would be free.
I think that’s untrue.
As I said, police management systems and processes are dominated by numbers and statistics. Pay attention and when you see police senior managers and administrators coming before lawmakers to defend budgets you’ll see them using lots of numbers and statistics to justify hiring and promotion among uniformed patrol officers (the employees who patrol and supervise the patrolling of neighborhoods and traffic enforcement). And you’ll also see them abandon numbers and statistics when it comes to justifying and defending bigger office buildings, flying drones, armored cars, military grade explosives, “school resource officers”, and horses.
Instead you’ll see Power Point decks with lots of photogenic, multi-ethnic smiling police in uniform at street fairs and sporting events with face painted children of color. You’ll see helicopter and speedboat “ride-alongs”. You’ll see “testimony” of former “gang bangers” diverted away from gang life by “after school chess club”.
But it’s all bullshit. And they know it.
You spend three times what you did forty years ago. But you don’t feel any safer. If all that mattered was how Seattle voters felt about public safety you’d have fired your police department years ago. The numbers tell a different story. Under consent decree, adding patrol officers and supervising sergeants (which SPD opposed) your numbers have improved. Adding drones, horses, an “aviation division” and a “marine division” did nothing. If you voters and your elected officials hold the Chief and all his Captains to account for the numbers (for a change) then you’ll get patrols and supervisors.
Defunding police would definitely reduce overtime expenditures.
That would be a good thing. A very good thing.
@ 20 So, like the proliferation of college administrators. And the effect on tuition.
I’m not in complete agreement with your point, but I do see bloat costs that never translate to better law enforcement, just as I see massive increases in administrative costs that will never become a better university education.
And yet the homophobe Joy Reid still has her gig at MSNBC.
Lying pays.
C’mon. Plenty of people have words. ROFLMFAO is a word, amirite?
22,
Ah. Whaddabout.
Of course. Because you’re too stupid and lazy to come up with any other response.
The comparison assumes that “police science” is something that actually exists. It does not. At least not in the United States.
By way of reference, perhaps two of the most prominent consulting practitioners of “police science” in the US are Rudy Giuliani and Bernard Kerik – both quite possibly dumber and lazier than you.
Meanwhile, setting aside Michelin starred chefs in dining halls and dormitory suites by Ritz Carlton (a privately endowed thing), your local state funded big U needs perhaps a dozen scanning electron microscopes and technicians to operate and maintain them, one or two cyclotrons, a reactor pile, dozens of swimming pools, an observatory, a server farm, microwave communications relays, more high speed data than your state government, a dozen tissue culturing labs, PhD researchers in hundreds of technical fields only invented in the last two dozen years, and all the infrastructure needed to support all that.
But good to know that when the time comes and we move your stage 3 cancer over to Medicare and sign you up for the more “traditional” approach of “leech therapy” to “balance your Four Vital Humours”, you’ll be totes cool with it because “bloat”.
The rest of us can easily afford things like retrovirals and gene therapy. So sorry you can’t. But while your death may be lingering and painful, at least it will be secure in the knowledge that you have a more powerful engine in your car… waiting in line… police drone circling above… police dog peeing on your tires… police boat idling nearby… patrol officer porn surfing between naps…
at the “bloated” ferry system.
Summer of Love, y’all.
For several weeks during the summer of 2020, there was a more disgusting shithole in Seattle than the one in which Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit and his poor, unfortunate family reside.
Redmond PD unleashed a dog to subdue poor, innocent Richard Sherman early this morning.
Sherman is a VP of the NFLPA exec committee. At least today he still is.
@22 Seems kind of stupid to change the subject even when you might have a valid argument. Must be habit.
@23 In news media, credibility matters. On Fox and in rightwing politics, it doesn’t.
@24 Is that lightning bolt programmable? Asking for some friends.
@25 “But while your death may be lingering and painful, at least it will be …”
You could have told him, “deserved,” but you didn’t. I won’t, either. We are, after all, liberal in our thinking.
@26 Not nearly as lawless as the U.S. Capitol grounds on Jan. 6, 2021, or wherever else Trump parasites gather.
@27 “At least today he still is.”
That wouldn’t be so tentative if the NFLPA was a police union. The prospect of discipline would be much less, too.
Not only will breeding not save them, but the actual process of breeding will kill them.
two dumbfucks only make more dumbfucks!
It’s not survival of the Dumbest, you dumbfucks!
Q
Is he a bigot? Maybe that’s why they also voted for him.
I went to church this past Sunday…..St. Francis Xavier Church on West 16th Street. I bet the God fearing man wouldn’t have liked the sermon that was given at that church.
Getting out of Afghanistan is the right move. It should have been accomplished over a decade ago. We have received absolutely nothing of benefit for our invasion of that medieval country, and their resolve to be fundamentalists in their interpretation of Islam has only strengthened. Only Muslims can change Islam. Western involvement impedes any progress towards Muslims having the equivalent of the Protestant Reformation.
It does not matter when we leave because the country is going to descend into chaos. All we have done is delayed the inevitable Campaign of Islamic Terror that will ensue. The same thing would have happened ten years ago, had we left then.
There is no way to avoid the fact that Afghanistan will be an Islamic theocracy after we’re gone. As bad as it’s going to be for the people of Afghanistan, it’s the right move to simply get out.
They got to know Trump too.
36 months from now, after a lot of jockeying, and back stabbing, and Flying Monkey attacks and counterattacks, would it really surprise you, after all, if Republicans go into their convention to nominate…
this guy.
@38 Count Dracula
“Federal prosecutors … have reached a plea deal with Josiah Colt, a 34-year-old rioter from Idaho who … rappelled into the Senate chamber during the deadly Jan. 6 insurrection. … His deal requires that he cooperate with the government on other investigations.”
The thing about traitors is they’re traitors. They’ll give up their buddies to save their own skins. This is something every traitor should know before agreeing to commit treason with his friends.
@38 Only if Trump is dead or incapacitated. Dementia doesn’t count; he’s already demented.
@36 How many Afghans who’ve loyally served the U.S. military do you think we should bring out with our troops?
41,
Trump told Maria Bartiromo the other day that he is running. He told her he couldn’t “say” say. Because then he’d be subject fundraising restrictions. But he specifically told her that the only thing stopping him from officially announcing his candidacy was the federal law limiting campaign donations.
He’s going to fuck them so bad.
Weird thing is, they know it. Doctor Dumbfuck knows it.
And it’s like they look forward to the abuse. The whole battered spouse syndrome thing has taken a very dark turn. Very crazy. In the worst way.
In Berlin Wednesday, there was a press conference by the German Interior Minister, Federal Returning Officer and chiefs of the BFV(Domestic Intelligence Agency, officially Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution), and the BSI(Cyberintelligence). The issue is cyber hacking of the upcoming Federal Election, and accusations of fraud in mail in ballots. The latter is only coming from the AfD.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-fights-cyberattacks-and-fraud-claims-to-ensure-fair-election/a-58267635
A sentencing has been reached in the St. Louis Police beating of fellow officer Luther Hall.
The first officer to plead guilty and face sentencing for his participation in the brutal attack will get just over four years in prison.
Hall was with a partner working undercover monitoring protesters in Sept of 2017, photographing potential vandalism suspects and calling in information to a tactical center when both he and his partner were set upon by four uniformed riot officers with batons, clubs, and repeated knee strikes and kicks. Hall suffered multiple injuries that resulted in a 100% disability. The city recently reached a civil settlement with him for indirect damages of $5 million. He will receive a full disability pension and all of his medical expenses will be paid.
Three other officers face similar and more serious charges in the incident after their text messages from earlier the same day revealed their plans to carry out such beatings. All were eventually fired when the FBI brought the existence of the text messages to light.
Tax payers of St. Louis lose six full time police officers. Pay private attorneys and dozens of full time staff for three years of civil and criminal defense. Pay settlements and full benefit retirements to two of the officers. And pay for the long term incarceration of the other four. Add in the cost of recruiting and training their replacements.
A single police sport-beating incident lasting barely 30 minutes that will cost Missouri taxpayers close to $20 million by the time it’s all done.
Police just don’t do what you think they do.
@45 $20 million? No problem. Republicans will just shift the tax burden to minimum-wage earners. And authorize more police beatings. Of cops. Especially black cops.
42,
All of them, if possible. What do you think?
We will be hated in Afghanistan well into the next century. Every time we shot up an Afghan wedding, thinking it was a bunch of insurgents, we made hundreds of new enemies.
Yes, the correct thing to do is get out. Religious bloodshed will follow, but it was inevitable, no matter when we left. The US should get out of the nation-building role and end the de facto empire we’ve built.
47,
Now do Teh Meskins.
I suppose it was inevitable that retirees who believed they were donating to Trump’s campaign would eventually find out they gave their money to a thief instead.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/politics/kfile-pac-trump-robocall-operation/index.html
Not that it really matters.
Brandon Fellows is the future of American “conservatism”.
And I could not be more pleased.
The 26 year old itinerant laborer from upstate New York who lives in a discarded school bus, drove to The Capitol on Jan 6, joined with terrorists in breaking into The Capitol, smoked a joint in a Senator’s office and tried to steal a police motorcycle. He claims he never had any involvement with Trump or Trump rallies prior to Jan. 6th and was merely motivated to attend by boredom and curiosity. His charged offenses are among the least serious of the over 530 persons indicted so far.
But Mr. Fellows will spend every moment from now until his trial (so far he continues to profess innocence despite having admitted the predicate criminal acts and also having filmed himself while committing them) in pre-trial detainment in a federal prison*. That’s because he is who he is.
A troll. Who just can’t shut up.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1415697227205562370
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-12/-no-regrets-a-capitol-rioter-tells-his-story-from-inside
*The government put a plea offer on the table that would have gotten him 15 months. He’ll be in pre-trial detention awaiting trial longer than that. The future of American “conservatism” is all-stupid, all-the-time.
@47 “We will be hated in Afghanistan well into the next century.”
It’s safe to say people like you will be — by the female half of the population you’re throwing under the bus.
Can’t learn to read and write.
Must wear a burkha at all times.
Can’t leave home without a male relative.
Will be traded at age 13 to a boy’s family for a cow.
The sole purpose of her life will be bearing children; lots of them.
Half of those children won’t make it to age 6.
That’s quite a fate you’re consigning Afghanistan’s women and girls to, pardner. I don’t think they’re going to like it — or you — very much.,
Attention Trumpublicans:
Prepare to be disappointed.
The old formulas don’t work in the new era of Righteous TrumPurity. Trump is an event horizon. Once you’ve gone “all-in” it’s impossible to back out even a little.
51 are you arguing America should stay in Afghanistan and spend even more american blood and treasure to keep them them being even more cruel to the weak and powerless of their society?
Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house
It is acutely necessary to use all possible force to facilitate his [Trump’s] election to the post of US president,” the paper says.
The Steele dossier was the raw intelligence. This is the report.
This leak suggests that the Kremlin thinks Trump is a spent asset. Nothing more he can do for Russia. Now, they want the public to know what they are bad asses who could destabilize the American electorate
Hot off the press Republican talking points in response: “Fake news! Hunter Biden! Dementia! Her e-mails! Socialism! Critical race theory! Stop the steal! Kamela is unlikable. ”
Illinois becomes first state to ban police from lying to minors during interrogations
It is worth repeating to my kids who are of color: if taken into custody, do not talk to Cops. State very clearly I want a lawyer, I want my parents. Repeat this and only this over and over.
Doc Dumbfuck is really gonna hate this: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/politics/woman-navy-special-warfare/index.html After all, his ilk still like to chant, “Women drivers, no survivors!”
Congrats to the sailor that has blazed a trail for women, job well done. A nation is (and should be) grateful for your sacrifices.
55,
It’s good advice for anyone.
How to get your bail revoked in 1 easy step:
“An accused Capitol rioter’s bail was revoked by a judge on Thursday after allegedly leaving lewd and rambling voicemails for his probation officer. …
“On Wednesday, [the probation officer] testified that Fellows … referenced ‘the size of his genitalia and the performance of his genitalia,’ CBS News reported.”
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/563318-accused-capitol-rioters-bail-revoked-after-leaving-lewd
From link @52: “In one television ad, he doesn’t even identify which party he represents.”
I wouldn’t either, if I had to run as a Republican.
@53 Yeah, if keeping the Taliban at bay costs us no blood and relatively little treasure. All we have to do is provide enough support to the Kabul government to keep it from being overrun.
55,
I should add, and this would also be true for adults as well, the caution should not be limited to circumstances where a person is “taken into custody”.
The circumstances in which police can legally “take custody” of a minor differ from and are a lot more expansive than those in which police can “arrest” an adult. Regardless, in any of those circumstances the law requires a Miranda warning (although a minor may be incapable of understanding such a warning). But since Miranda v Arizona the courts have afforded enormous discretion and legal leeway to police to “detain” citizens without the detention qualifying as an “arrest” for Miranda purposes.
Recognizing this, police and police trainers have become very creative in the decades since Miranda. “Good police work” and even “community policing” is often defined for their purposes as actively creating circumstances in which they can contact and interact with targeted individuals and communities for the purpose of conducting investigatory interrogations without Miranda warnings. “Really good police work” consists of creating and imposing these circumstances in a way that is highly coercive even if it seems unthreatening and even “friendly”. These are some of the most dangerous encounters with police, imho. They would be especially perilous for a minor accustomed to deferring to authority. And obviously more so for any non-white minor.
Ask any criminal prosecutor what they tell their families: “Don’t talk to the police.” It’s good advice.
@61 I’d say “Hi, good morning,” to the cop having coffee at a table outside a Starbucks, but I don’t want to incriminate myself.
Don’t let them “search” your car, either.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9792223/Ex-Florida-deputy-gets-12-years-planting-drugs.html
Looks like I agree with Dubya on Afghanistan. That’s scary.
Or maybe he’s decided to agree with me. That’s less scary.
The latest generation of nuclear warheads for the Navy’s Trident missiles were unreliable with $5 capacitors, so they replaced them with $75 capacitors.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/07/14/after-delays-navy-takes-delivery-of-first-improved-nuclear-warhead.html?ESRC=eb_210715.nl
The article doesn’t say whether the problem was the warheads wouldn’t go off when they were supposed to, or might go off when they weren’t supposed to.
Count Dracula – friend of Bob’s
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2021/07/15/matt-gaetz-hired-legal-firm-used-by-jeffrey-epstein-and-el-chapo-campaign-report-shows/
Ggggggeeeeeee Money!
@65
It doesn’t really matter if it is a $5, $75, or $175 part. What matters is the person with their finger on the button isn’t some 2-cent dictator with an inferiority complex that is completely unstable and clearly can’t pass a stress test; physical or emotional.
I think there should be a law to jail cops that don’t exercise the same descretion when it comes to all different groups of people.
Including jailing the Governor for failure to see that the laws are carried out similiarly to all people and not discrimanently.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/activists-lawyers-see-double-standard-florida-s-response-cuba-demonstrations-n1274120
I think there should be a law to jail libbies who support a candidate for president based on nothing more than that candidate’s preference for male homosexual sex.
And I think there should be a law to jail libbies who use words like “descretion” and “discrimanently”.
@ 64
Looks like I agree with Dubya on Afghanistan.
Wait ’til you find out how he funded AIDS in Africa.
I think there should be a law to jail libbies.. for blah, blah…
i.e. klownservatic kancel kulture….
@69 yeah you wouldn’t have a problem if cops policed differently….because after all you like fasicst fucks….you like big government controll. You are a Nazi traitor and treasonous Troll.
Still doing the math?
65)I thought this could be the one thing Pentagon Procurement couldn’t mess up, because the Nukes are the DoE’s jurisdiction.
@69 Looks like Doctor Dumbfuck is joining the chorus of clownservaturds calling for putting liberals in concentration camps.
“An officer was killed and four others were wounded during a standoff involving a barricaded person in Levelland, Texas, on Thursday … [after] police received a call in the early afternoon about a neighbor who was acting strangely and walking around with what appeared to be a large gun. As officers arrived, they noticed a Chevrolet pickup truck in the driveway that was reported by a Texas Highway Patrol Trooper earlier in the day … driving recklessly, and ‘appeared to be trying to bait’ the trooper into some type of confrontation ….”
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/us/lubbock-texas-shooting-thursday/index.html
First of all, my sympathies to the family of the slain hero officer, and my prayers for the injured officers.
The story doesn’t say if there’s a flag on the truck, but if so, it’s much more likely a Trump flag than a Biden flag; after all, this is in Texas.
69,
Would you like to speak to the manager?
Geezus Tara. If you could only see how utterly debased you’ve become…
…you’d laugh your ass off just like all of us!!!
67)One of the reasons I think they should not have made the W76-2 warhead. Too low of a Yield, too tempting for the wrong President to use.
@77 Not disputing your point, but the defective capacitors are on the W88 Alt-370.
78)I understand. W88s are supposed to do a lot of damage. Plus, most tests are just computer simulations. Although if it’s just the insulators, that could be a subcritical test, which is allowed. We need them to work when needed, but can do a lot of damage even going off by accident.
@79 What we really need is for nobody’s nukes to work if somebody loses their marbles and pushes the button, and then everybody else pushes theirs.
But we aren’t that lucky. It remains to be seen if we’re smart enough to never use them.
Fingers crossed, but not with much confidence.
Breeding will not save them.
Contrary – breeding will kill them.
The cost of living is so, so much affordable down South!
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/07/15/partial-roof-collapse-evacuation-northwest-miami-dade/
Look at the fucking picture – anyone can see that the connection with the roof framing of the “Dormer” to the slab structure wasn’t adequate or even non existent. The wood framing like detached completely.
Who needs a Structural Engineer Stamp?! Or one that you have to pay too much for!
That wasn’t termite damage.
He was chillin in his home.
Breeding will not save them!
The connection of the eave framing couldn’t resist the moment forces (which wasn’t much) Good fucking thing it doesn’t snow in Miami (Yet). Dumbfucks.
It cost too much money! And a hurrican is only going to wipe the building out – why spend too much money on it! Ha, ha, ha!
Breeding will not save them.
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi sought assurances from General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that then-President Donald Trump wouldn’t be able to use nuclear weapons during his last days in office, according to a new book
Mainstreet “conservatives” Nov. 2020: Any heated claim that GOP might try to steal an election is just “derangement”.
Mainstreet “moderate Democrats” July 2021: Any heated claim that GOP might try to steal an election is just “derangement”
Notice the subtle difference.
Mike Lindell on Parler yesterday announced the official results:
Trump won in a landslide carrying 49 of 50 states. Biden only won in NY. Turnout overwhelmed the Dominion machines, vote switching couldn’t keep up, ink bleed through created overvote, etc.
In order to gain the necessary public support among enough “conservatives” to sustain massive criminal election fraud in 2024 the GOP must convince them that the fraud is justified as “payback”.
They are not crazy. Stop saying it. This is a plan. It is well thought out. And if loyal American patriots do nothing about it but point and laugh this time it will probably succeed.
@77 There are tactical nukes, small in size and yield. Sandia Labs worked designed them.
@80 – I hate to split hairs (no pun intended) but we did use them. Twice to be exact.