Stefan… hmm… actually, if I wanted to share my methodology, I would have in the post.

I’ll admit that I’m a bit surprised and disappointed that we’re not yet seeing the trends I expect to see, though I still have reason to be hopeful. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. There’s no harm in that.

I would love to see Darcy get the win and the R’s in the 8th should as well since their voice is totally unheard if Reichert wins. He isn’t a Neo-con and that is the only substantial group of R’s left in the House. They won’t want a West Coast left leaning Republican to have anything to do with them so he won’t even get a voice in the Minority caucus. If Dave isn’t out this election he will be beat substantially in ’08 as the 8th goes even stronger to the Dems.

I wondering if dave could be persuaded to switch party’s?

I have a hard time seeing how counting about a third of the outstanding votes and going from 2700 down to 3100 down is good news.

and there is nothing wrong with latties I just can’t afford one

Daniel K –are you really paraphrasing Rumsfeld and citing the unknown unknowns? ;)

Goldy @5. Well, whatever happens I don’t think the money I sent to the Burner campaign went to waste. This overall victory was definitely a team effort. Good job everyone.

If it’s left to King County, then I agree – the race will narrow. Even if it doesn’t look possible, they will recount until it works for Burner.

18#

I sure hope so

right[hah!] as usual you are just another foul-mouthed poor “winner”.
honey…we know what your IQ is already you don’t have to keep trumpeting it far and wide, okay? didn’t anyone ever tell you that foul language is the hidey hole of ignorant cowards with nothing to say?
no? well, i just did.

and socialist….now i am very curious. where are you originally from? and why are you a socialist?
that’s VERY sad about the homeless woman being stabbed to death…you would think a few of the latte drinking liberal bores on here could have given her a room and sanctuary, don’t you think? or are they waiting for the government to act human so they don’t have to?
but i really am interested in why you believe what you do…and why the lefties are so studiously ignoring you.

christmasghosthere are is a good site you can learn about marx this is my main study site it is the one that I first visited http://www.marxists.org/

goldy, the reason you predict come from behind victory

a) Dems encourage provisionals, to point of getting more than 1 ballot per person in the box. Yes, evidence shows that. And that leads to Tomfoolery; you cannot have 100% accuracy in divining intent from these double votes.
b) Dems run the KCRE right? Majority of staff, majority of workers?
c) Flood of course gives excuse to carry this a tad further, adding in “flood ballots”
d) at same time, legit flood disenfranchised voters undervote (largely cuz pain in neck amidst saving your belongings to go vote).

Socialism is not mere government ownership, a welfare state, or a repressive bureaucracy. Socialism is a new social and economic order in which workers and consumers control production and community residents control their neighborhoods, homes, and schools. The production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. Socialism produces a constantly renewed future by not plundering the resources of the earth.
Under capitalist and “Communist” states, people have little control over fundamental areas of their lives. The capitalist system forces workers to sell their abilities and skills to the few who own the workplaces, profit from these workers’ labor, and use the government to maintain their privileged position. Under “Communist” states, decisions are made by Communist Party officials, the bureaucracy and the military. The inevitable product of each system is a class society with gross inequality of privileges, a draining of the productive wealth and goods of the society into military purposes, environmental pollution, and war in which workers are compelled to fight other workers.
People across the world need to cast off the systems which oppress them, and build a new world fit for all humanity. Democratic revolutions are needed to dissolve the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. By revolution we mean a radical and fundamental change in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations. The building of socialism requires widespread understanding and participation, and will not be achieved by an elite working “on behalf of” the people. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling capitalist class and its power. The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a socialist future – to a real radical democracy from below.

Goldy-

Are you ever going to write about the significant gains we made in the legislature??? A minimum of 6 and possibly 7 seats in the house depending on further counts and 6 seats in the Senate. This is huge!!! We now have a larger percentage of Dems in both chambers than they do in California. I think it’s the largest advantage in about two decades. With Kilmer (South PS), Kauffman, Oemig, Tom (all Eastside), Marr (Spokane), and Hobbs (Snohomish Cnty) those seats will probably not go back Red anytime soon especially with the Republican’s stone-age social policies. All six of them were endorsed by Equal Rights Washington, and, guess what???…they all won by sizeable margins. In those districts, future candidates can use the anti-gay schtick to their own peril as we don’t evolve backwards. This may be the final nail in the coffin of some of those seats for the Repubs.

I donated to Burner too and want her to win, but let’s not lose site of some of the truly great local accomplishments we had.

The brutal, inescapable reality of this election is the repudiation of the republican and neo-con agenda. While the gerrymandering that has prevailed around the country is not so much a factor here in Washington where we have a more or less impartial process to draw districts, you have to recognize that for the Democratic wave to occur, a significant number of nominal republicans had to cross over the aisle. That is a vote for repudiation. That is a vote for America.
A Congress, and a President that wanted to criminalize grandma for trying to save some money on her prescriptions by buying in Canada, that wants to demonize a popular actor stricken with a degenerative disease because he advocates the hope seen in stem-cell research, who wanted to intrude into the very private decision making a family must make at the end of life of a loved one, all have been repudiated. Repudiated by Americans. I think the charge that has been given to Pelosi and the Democratic party
is to serve this group of Americans. I’m hopeful that they can.

Actiuly I am pretty hopeful to frog

socialist…thanks for answering me. i , personally, don’t know any conservatives that accept the KKK or the nazi party. i have never met any…have you? they are the exact opposite of what america should be don’t you think?
socialism…..hmmmmmmmm. it’s never really worked. it was a “beautiful idea” so to speak but in putting it in place it never worked….have you wondered why?
it all sounds good doesn’t it? but can you really imagine a classless world where no one notices each other’s differences? noticing is not necessarily a bad thing [can you imagine how boring and dull it would be if we were all alike????]…we assume it is nowadays because people harp on it so much. but it’s no different than noticing one especially beautiful sunset is it? that doesn’t mean you didn’t like all the other sunsets does it?
rather than socialism i would rather see freedom. and socialism isn’t free. when you have to tell people how to act in every aspect of their lives…what does that really accomplish…. and is that fair? are we slaves? and who gets to dictate what we are supposed to feel and think?
then there is that whole issue that marx talked a good story but he did very bad and controlling things. does that make socialism a non-starter? not really….but marx shouldn’t be admired too much. he had interesting ideas but he was all too human [and so are the rest of us]…for them to work.
socialist…we are tribal by NATURE. just read what people write on here for example. they say they are for everybody….but they wouldn’t have helped that homeless woman for ANYTHING.
i would have and do…yet i am considered an evil republican.
go figure…..
and ,really, thanks for answering me…i really appreciate it.

No problem christmasghost it was my pleasure :-)

tim
we dislike our sec’y of state becauses he’s barely competant. He seems personable but i wouldn’t hire him to do my taxes or track a few million ballots.

Hmmm. “we” dislike our SOS? Some of us like him just fine. Take your partisan goggles off and take another look.

re 26: What you are actually describing is anarchism. Noam Chomsky is an anarchist. They believe that people are smart enough to take care of their own affairs without any central AUTHORITY or PARTY.

And if you think about it, the majority of people behave that way every day. People who believe that AUTHORITY is needed believe that without it there would be disorder and “anarchy”.

A very basic misunderstanding of the term.
But, since “Socialism” has been given a bad rap, it is a total waste of any slight politicalclout you may garner in your life to waste it by calling yourself something that people have been trained for generations to loath.

You can be a socialist, but call yourself a progressive or liberal. “A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.”

And Actuily most of the rest of the civilized world is becomeing more Socialist not less.

And this terrifies the capitalist and the big corporations that is why they do everything they can to make people think it is bad like they do national health care and unions and helping anyone.

The other reason I became a Socialist is becoase Socialisum is the sworn enimy of the fashist and that is really what the republican party has become.

DEFEATED SENATOR MAY LEAVE GOP

Lincoln Chafee (R-RI) signaled to reporters that he may leave the Republican Party to become a Democrat or independent. Chafee, 53, held a seat that his father held before him — in a state that is now heavily Democratic. The most liberal of the Senate Republicans, he stayed with the GOP to bring federal dollars to his state.

GOP SENATOR: DEMOCRATIC WIN HELPS AMERICA

GOP Sen. Chafee (Rhode Island) says his defeat “may have helped the country by switching control of Congress.”

“The people have spoken all across America. They want the Democrats and Republicans to work together,” he said. “I think the president now is going to have to talk to the Democrats. I think that’s going to be good for America.”

http://tinyurl.com/y7j588

no

In a previous thread, I wrote:

“Dear Republicans:

This is a letter from my heart. I am willing to discuss re-admitting you to the human race, but there are conditions. Here are my terms. There aren’t very many of them, and they’re simple and easy to understand:

1) You don’t have to agree with me on issues, but you must agree that we will treat our disagreements as honest differences of opinion among well-intentioned people.

2) You don’t have to like me, but you may not impugn my patriotism.

3) Politics is not war; it is competition, and sportsmanship and fair play are expected.

4) We will treat each other with civility and respect.

Sincerely yours,

An American Hare”

Commentby Roger Rabbit— 11/9/06@ 2:01 am

Almost immediately, ProudAss (now posting as “Truth2006,” a misappropriation of a perfectly good English word if there ever was one) belligerently replied:

“First of all, you don’t have a heart. … After all the vitriol you … have spewed, I find it ludicrous to believe anything you write. I can only think the DNC sent out the word to get the crazies under control. … You are not sincere. You sir are a liar, not worthy of the great tidings the greatest nation on earth bestows upon its citizens. And that is not because you are a Democrat. There are good Democrats and you sir are not one of them.”

Commentby Truth2006— 11/9/06@ 3:06 am

Well actually yes, I’m dead serious about Sen. Chafee says. He’s right. Pelosi is right. For all the blessings it lavishes upon us, this country won’t work if we don’t work together. I’ve always understood that. But now let me explain something.

My father’s generation were decent men endowed with compassion, humanity, and all the other normal equipment that a merciful God and proper social upbringing endows the great mass of ordinary Americans with. But when they landed on the Pacific Islands in World War 2, they found themselves against an implacable, fanatical, suicidal enemy who would rather die for the emperor than surrender, even when utterly defeated. The only thing to do was kill them. And when they were dug into caves and reinforced bunkers, sometimes they had to be killed with flamethrowers, napalm, and other cruel weapons. It was kill, or be killed, our fathers had no choice but to fight savage battles against an enemy so savage the Japanese routinely starved, tortured, and brutalized prisoners — even dissecting people alive in medical experiments. Unlike some of my fellow liberals, I have absolutely no qualms or regrets about dropping the A-bombs on a nation and people who committed such things.

What does this have to do with the subject at hand? Simply this. ProudAss, you sir and unfortunately your ilk are fanatical savages. You don’t know how to be reasonable, and don’t want to be. Middle America just handed you a decisive repudiation — but you still want to fight to the last man. I say that’s too bad, I wish you were more flexible, but if you insist on destroying yourself and your political party as you forge ahead in your blind and suicidal determination to destroy our country and all it’s blessings, then unfortunately I can’t stop you. I’m just gonna have to fucking nuke you. I won’t enjoy it, but a rabbit does what a rabbit has to do.

Chafee got it right; you, sir, are utterly and abysmally and damnably wrong.

Any questions?

Bush condemned to failure due to his disastrous policy in Afghanistan and Iraq. The ‘War without Success’ policy pleases nobody, except the clique of elitist corporative crypto-fascists which gravitate around the White House, turning multi-millionaires into multi-billionaires at the expense of the North American people and the hundreds of thousands of civilians slaughtered by the Bush regime.

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/

Good discussion of Socialism.

Fundamental to the theory of Capitalism is that there are three classes: Landowners, who will own the property; Capitalists, who will own the means of production, both financial and material; and Labor, who “own” only their labor. And in the end, Labor will exist at just above the subsistence level.

Don’t believe me? Go read Smith, Malthus, et al. Capitalism is by it’s very design a system of class warfare.

Put Marx in perspective. He was living in London in the early-mid 1800’s when he was writing “Das Kapital.” He saw the very worst abuses of unregulated Capitalism combined with the worst abuses of the Industrial Revolution. It’s no wonder his philosophy is what it is.

And what really is wrong with the statement “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” What more can you ask of anyone?

I find that to be a very defensible statement, not only ethically, but also from a Christian standpoint (I’m not Christian, but it is supposedly the primary religion in this country, even if most Christians don’t seem to act in a very Christlike manner).

I believe there are inherent flaws in Marxist theory that render it unworkable, but that isn’t one of them.

The class warfare theory of Capitalism correlates quite closely to the elitist political theories of Edmund Burke, whose writings strongly influenced the Federalists in America.

Conservative political philosophy has flowed from this belief that only the elite should be allowed to vote. I see it as not surprising at all that conservatives are so willing to manipulate vote counts, disenfranchise minority voters, etc. It is a natural part of their political philosophy.

In the same way, conservative Capitalists work towards the establishment of an economic elite that draw their income from dividends and capital gains, which they would like very much to see exempted from taxation. Eliminating the estate tax will then allow them to accumulate untaxed wealth over multiple generations and have complete dominance over both the economy and the government.

But even Adam Smith (the Father of Capitalism, not the WA State Rep) had some misgivings about unregulated Capitalism and thought some regulation might be necessary to control unrestrained greed. I think his misgivings were well-founded.

Capitalism will naturally drive a society towards a condition of extremely uneven wealth distribution. Looking at our own history shows that our nation has been strongest when that distribution is more even (I know it will never be totally even, and I don’t expect that). Go investigate the GINI Index if you want to understand what I mean, and look at the overall social conditions in this country and others as correlated with the GINI Index.

And that is why I am a Liberal who supports taxation of capital gains, taxation of estates, close regulation and monitoring of businesses, etc. Conservatives call that Socialism, but it isn’t.

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Socialist — I agree that Bush’s policies have, in effect, told the world, “If you don’t have nuclear weapons the U.S. will invade you, and if you do we’ll leave you alone.”

Lately I have been wondering if a country like china could move to democracy if they would write a Socialist constitution.

So it would just be the law so no matter who was elected Socialism would be there base like our constitution is our base

Marx wrote about having a Constitionnel democracy as a intercalate party of the new Socialist experiment. That is why I say true Socialism really hasn’t been tried yet.

Just some countries that have called them selves Communist with Socialist policies but totalitarian or dictoreal leaderships.

There have been several capitalist dictatorships to and they didn’t work ether. Penosha comes to mind .

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Stefan, both you and Goldy are speculating. We won’t know who won until all the votes are counted, it’s that simple. Of course I see right through the game you and other Republicans play — you prematurely declare victory, then if the race flips in the late count you’ll claim it was stolen. Fuck you, Stefan! You’re dishonest. And you’re nothing but a partisan hack like me.

Unlike Stefan or Goldy, I haven’t tried to call this race. The fact X-percent of the counted ballots in Pierce County are for Reichert doesn’t mean X-percent of the uncounted ballots in Pierce County are for Reichert too. Voters aren’t governed by laws of mathematics or statistics, they act individually. As long as there’s more uncounted ballots than the margin separating the candidates, it could go either way. All you guys are doing is playing with probability. Just remember, on any bell-shaped curve, some outcomes do fall in the 1% probability, 5% probability, and 20% probability quadrants.

Stefan’s blog is nothing more than partisan rant dressed up in educated language to make it look respectable.

Hey Stefan — do you think it’s appropriate to put stuff like this on the internet in your blog?

“Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago.
Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM”

http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu

And don’t give me any b.s. about not censoring your blog. You censor your blog. We all know that. You would never allow Roger Rabbit to post the stuff I post on HA on your blog. We all know that. So, why do you think it’s okay for someone to use your blog to say “we need” a terrorist attack on American soil that kills innocent Americans because the American people voted in a Democratic Congress? Why is it okay to be in favor of terrorists killing Americans in order to make them elect a GOP Congress again, but it’s not okay for Roger Rabbit to say wingnuts who post such garbage are unpatriotic America-hating fascist fucks?

and very high taxes on the rich

Hey Stefan — we all know you censor your blog! Would you let someone post this on your blog?

“Steffy must be lonely. No one will hang out over at the looooooooooooooser’s blog so he’s sticking his foul nose over here where everyone thinks he’s a dicksucking punk. You lost bitch. Get over it and get used to it. Commentby RightEqualsStupid— 11/9/06@ 8:23 pm”

No, I think not. So why do you let an unpatriotic America-hating fascist fuck use your blog to post that America “needs” a terrorist attack that kills innocent Americans because people voted in a Democratic Congress?

Stefan — the fact anyone can go to your blog and find a post saying terrorists should kill Americans because they voted in a Democratic Congress proves you are a pathetic hypocrite.

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They used to be commies. Most of the neocon leaders are ex-sixties lefty revolutionaries who decided fascism pays better than communism. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Hitler and Stalin deserved each other. Their people didn’t deserve them … well, some of them did.

Well, one thing I’m not worried about is running into any Republicans where I’m going after I die.

They call us “commies,” “traitors,” “unpatriotic,” and “terrorists” — then ProudAss (aka “Truth2006”) complains about my posting “vitriol.” Pathetic.

Hey ProudAss you troop-hating anti-American fascist fuck — do you also think a terrorist attack on America would be a good thing, like Stefan’s blog says?

The old U.S.S.R. was communist in name only . They were really just a dictatorship.

I hope some day people will realize this I mean Stalin was no more of a Socialist then Hitler was a Humanitarian

yeah, yeah, tryingt to spin the Reichart reelection into something else..

in the Gov race, with like 99.5% of votes in, it was Reichart. Fair to call the win his. But then you found those provisionals in the closet…

Now you are saying w/ 60% in, its too early.

ps, how come Repubs in close races elsewhere, like Va w/ a slim diff, the Repub has class and admits defeat…..what’s up w/ immature darcy?

re 44; I think the best thing you could do to further your sause would be to use spell-check.

Hey moonbats did you see Nancy Pelosi in interviews admit she had no “real” power to stop the Iraq War?

Hey, MWS, do you understand the fact that the Administration sets foreign policy? If this had been a Presidential election, Bush would be out and then something substantive could be done.

Congress’ influence over foreign policy, even undeclared wars, is indirect at best. But at least with Dems in control of the Congressional agenda and the purse strings, there is some hope for influence.

But, no, the Speaker of the House can’t arbitrarily stop the occupation of Iraq.

roger roger roger…posing again are we? which is it? the roger who brags that he has lot’s of stock in oil companies or the roger that now says capitalism is evil? what a phoney you are….shame shame shame……..
and socialist…..evil rich people? so anyone that owns a company and provides JOBS and income for other people is bad?
here are some evil rich people for you…they also happen to be progressives….bill clinton, john kerry, bill gates, nancy pelosi, dianne feinstein ,gavin newsom,…and they are so progressive they are all white….hmmmmmmmm…….
how do you square your beliefs with adulation of these people?

and without jobs what would you do to support yourself?

pale rider @98……..when the manufacturing is fully automated it will simply mean that i don’t have to hire any new people, or train them for that matter. it’s not just a matter of economics it’s a matter of quality control and time. you say that you design business applications software…right? well, how many people have you put out of work? didn’t think about that did you? it’s the evolving world of business, isn’t it? and if it weren’t for that what would you be doing?
i suppose you could say that we cater to the rich. big pharma and the EPA are our largest customers.and they employ alot of people. we developed the equipment and techniques that are used today in modern drug testing. we have just developed a way to test for steroids directly from plasma. those are just a couple of items.what we do increases the chances that if/when you get sick you will be diagnosed more accurately than ever before. and with our latest discovery the tests that are done by ,say, the EPA for example,will not use the VAST ammounts of toxic solvents that were once used to test for pollutants. it was the ultimate irony…and something that the average person doesn’t know…that vast ammounts of toxic chemicals are used everytime they needed to test for,guess what?…. toxic chemicals.so i guess in progressive-land we are big nasty evil “corporate” people. but i dare any of you to stop using everything that comes from “big oil” and corporations. you couldn’t go one day. you sure wouldn’t be working on a computer [big oil] or having any medical care [big oil, big pharma] or walking [big oil…your soles haven’t been rubber for eons…ditto for your bike tires]and forget the starbuck’s lattes you so love up there [big nasty corporation, remember?] etc.
time moves on and sometimes, as in today’s world, things actually improve….BUT people have take on the personal responsibility and adjust with the reality of the times. would you feel sorry for a man that was complaining that there just weren’t any jobs for him as a whale hunter, lighter of gas street lamps,ice delivery man?
no, of course not.
the job market changes……you create software that puts the people that used to sit there and type in the data manually,out of work right? it’s not so different from when we were using whale oil versus today…petrolium. do you want to go back to whale oil?
there are no free rides….no actions without reactions…no matter how small you think your personal “footprint” is…it’s not really that small.
here’s something to try. keep track of everything you buy or use every day that comes in plastic. keep all the plastic in one bag and at the end of the week…take a good look. you will be amazed. recycling is oh so important BUT it has a downside too. vast ammounts of water and energy are used and toxins produced to recycle. see what i mean? no free rides.
you brought up good paying jobs right? well…how did you get yours? if you had just walked in to the company you work for and demanded a “good paying job” with absolutely no experience or training on your part….would you have expected to get it? in this country ANYONE with determination and hard work can do anything. what more can you ask for?
it seems well meaning on your part to talk about well paying jobs.but doesn’t everyone also have a responsiblity to get the education/training they need for their own goals? you did it ,right? so …..what? you think everyone else is too stupid to do it?
that’s pretty insulting to the rest of the people don’t you think? and you know as well as i do that some people are just incredibly lazy. and that’s why they don’t have “good paying jobs”. they are being payed their worth….and you know it.
on another subject…it seems to me that our friend the socialist feels as if he doesn’t have a “place at the table”. none of you would even answer him or acknowledge his presence until i talked to him….now why is that? and now, suddenly, roger is a socialist?
perhaps it would do everyone on this blog alot of good to examine their own motives……….

*I’m smelling a recount.*

That’s not recount yer smellin’, that’s the smell of politically dead bodies of the WA state GOP, who got hit by a heckuva truck!

CAN DEMOCRATS WIN MORE SENATE SEATS IN 2008?

The raw numbers say yes, simply because the GOP has more seats up for election in 2008 than the Democrats. First, though, let’s review the 2006 results.

2006 election – total Senate seats 33; breakdown – 17 Democrats, 15 Republicans, 2 independents; results – Democrats 22, Republicans 9, independents 2.

2008 election – total Senate seats 33; breakdown – 12 Democrats, 21 Republicans, 0 independents.

The Democratic seats are in Arkansas, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, New Jersey, Rhode Island, S. Dakota, and West Virginia.

The Republican seats are in Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Minnesota, New Mexico, Nebraska, New Hampshire, N. Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, S. Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and Wyoming.

I figure only a couple of the Democratic seats (at most) might be in play, whereas several of the Republican seats could be in play.

Looks like an opportunity for Democrats to add 3-5 more in 2008 if things go their way, whereas Republicans have almost no chance of regaining a Senate majority in 2008.

“and if this race follows the usual pattern,””

If this race follows the usual pattern, the filthy election stealing liberal crooks will “find” more boxes of freshly fraudulent ballots for the Democrat.

Don Joe @1
I think http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/general/Turnout.aspx has the info you’re looking for.

The county-by-county numbers are there for, among other things, “registered voters”, “ballots counted”, “ballots left to count” (a projected number, as it reflects number of mail-in ballots in the mail, not yet received). Also the last & next tabulation date & time.

I notice King County has 13 precincts not yet reporting. Is this Carnation/Duvall, where the ballots were held up by the flooding?

For King County, they estimate that only 39% of the ballots cast have been counted to date; for Pierce, only 35%.

latest results with 100% in shows Darcy with approx. 1k vote lead!

Didn’t JCH agree to a bet in which if the Democrats took control of both the House and Senate, he would leave this site and never post here again? I seem to remember something of the sort.

Not that I think JCH is a . . . well, for want of a better term, man of his word, but the thought of never again having to read his trollskrit brings a smile to my face.

It is certainly possible. It would take a few percentage shift towards Burner in the later absentee votes.

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If this race follows the usual pattern, the filthy election stealing liberal crooks will “find” more boxes of freshly fraudulent ballots for the Democrat. Commentby Truth2006— 11/8/06@ 11:44 pm

ProudAss the crybaby sore loser (Rossi-2004) is still blowing smoke out of his ass. You lost. Get over it.

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I betcha those ultra-corrupt King County elections officials threw the election to the Republican, just to throw everyone off the scent! Commentby Enoch Root— 11/9/06@ 12:16 am

That’s gotta be it!

Goldy,

Don’t want to be a party pooper but many of those ballots left to be counted, I believe, are the infamous ones from Duvall that have been rescued from the flood.
Say what you like but that’s country pretty friendly to the Sheriff.
*caveat*
Been out and about for 12 hours enjoying life and my data could be 12 hours old. Still, the one bright/dark spot in an otherwise Democrat whooping.

NO RECOUNT IN VIRGINIA

From news sources — Defeated GOP Sen. George Allen says he won’t seek a recount.

The Seattle Times reports that Democrats gained nearly 300 state legislature seats nationwide, and now control both houses in 23 states, compared to 16 for Republicans.

The best letter in Thursday’s Seattle Times is by Curt Fredrikson of Renton, who wrote:

” … Mr. President, this is what repudiation looks like. This is repudiation of you, of an administration that lives in its own universe and rejects information from outside of it; and, of course, it is repudiation of the unnecessary Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld war.

“Hopefully, it is also repudiation of Bush-Rove scorched-Earth politics that say 1 percent is the best margin of victory because it minimizes the need to compromise with ‘enemies.’

“When I sat in the Bellevue Republican office in October 2000, working the phones to help make George W. Bush the president, I never thought I’d feel this way today, but politics does make strange bedfellows, doesn’t it?

“All hail the return of checks and balances to the American political system! As has always been the case, we will be better for it.”

Roger Rabbit Comment: Mr. Fredrikson, I can do business with Republicans like you.

Dear Republicans:

This is a letter from my heart. I am willing to discuss re-admitting you to the human race, but there are conditions. Here are my terms. There aren’t very many of them, and they’re simple and easy to understand:

1) You don’t have to agree with me on issues, but you must agree that we will treat our disagreements as honest differences of opinion among well-intentioned people.

2) You don’t have to like me, but you may not impugn my patriotism.

3) Politics is not war; it is competition, and sportsmanship and fair play are expected.

4) We will treat each other with civility and respect.

Sincerely yours,

An American Hare

“I betcha those ultra-corrupt King County elections officials threw the election to the Republican, just to throw everyone off the scent!”

Just watch and see how many boxes are magically “found” in the next week.

For the first time in four election cycles, Democrats are not attacking the Diebold Corp. the day after the election, accusing it of rigging its voting machines. I guess Diebold has finally been vindicated.

6 “Truth”

“the filthy election stealing liberal crooks will “find” more boxes of freshly fraudulent ballots for the Democrat.”

I understand. You’r feeling hurt; confused. Those who you thought to be invincible have shown to be meth-snorting, ass-banging losers with no souls. It’s rough, but you’l ge over it. We already have.

But there’s work to be done. Bush says that if Democrats are elected, the terrorists win. What he MEANT was if Demcrats are elected, THE INVESTIGATIONS BEGIN. Time to get busy.

Observer slots are gonna be open in King County. Dem party members, contact your district chair to get the info on who, when and how to sign up. If a recount happens there will be even more.

Note: Being polite to the repub observers is required but don’t expect it to be returned. Whatever you do, don’t expect them to be fair or honest when no one is looking. Also, don’t expect them to follow the rules about no cellphones since most will be real estate agents and mortgage spammers.

Just a thought. All the retards that voted for Reichert, just elected a representative to the MINORITY PARTY. What that means is less representation for their district.

Way to go. Every single pundit said the Democrats were going to control the house, and still they voted for less representation.

Oh well. People that vote for Republicans are known to not really understand government, or care about what is really going on.

Since Republicans worship tax dollars more than any god, I wonder if they care about the billions missing in Iraq…… The legislation written by the lobbyists, and passed by Republicans…. The rest of the swamp the Republicans filled, and live in……

“I betcha those ultra-corrupt King County elections officials threw the election to the Republican, just to throw everyone off the scent!”

Just watch and see how many boxes are magically “found” in the next week.

For the first time in four election cycles, Democrats are not attacking the Diebold Corp. the day after the election, accusing it of rigging its voting machines. I guess Diebold has finally been vindicated.

Commentby Truth2006— 11/9/06@ 2:51 am

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Actually there may have been some problems that favored Republicans. The fact that the people that voted for Democrats was so overwhelming, they couldn’t make it up with fraud. Read Brad Blog.com if you want more info. I am sure he will find out about the scamming of our democracy.

It helps when almost all people vote for Democrats though….

Reality strikes again.

47–righton

You obviously don’t live around here– or pay att’n to the news. We’ve had heavy rains and flooding in several counties in the last few days.

“We misread the election of 2004 as a conservative mandate when 45 percent of the American people describe themselves as moderates,” Snowe said. “If we move even further towards hard-core ideology, we’ll be in the minority for a long time.”

Wrongone, pbj, WOS, etc. Please choose hard core ideology!

I loooove the smell of steaming republicans in the morning.

RR’s list of the ’08 Senate was very helpful. It does give me some hope. But personally, I can’t wait until the 2010 elections, when the “class of ’92” is up for grabs.

But we need to remember that next time around, it will be harder. Democrats were helped considerably this time around by the Republicans shooting themselves in the foot, what with the Delay, Foley, Haggart, and other scandals, as well as the continued drag of the war in Iraq and Bush’s refusal to accept the reality of that war. The Presidential race in 2008 will change the landscape some – Republicans who decided not to vote in disgust in 2006, will probably vote in 2008, just to cast a vote against Hillary.

It may be harder next time around. The Republicans will try to blame the Democrats for their inability to quickly solve in two years the problems which the Republicans spent six years in the making, and over which the Congress has only limited control while Bush is still President (deficit, Iraq war).

So unless the Republicans do something really stupid over the next two years, the Democrats will need to start preparing immediatly for those contests. Yesterday was good for celebrations, perhaps today also, but by tomorrow we have to get back to work.

* Don’t spend a lot of time (and NO money) moving and re-decorating offices – that will be a PR bonanza for the Republicans.

* Within the next two weeks, set up an internal ethics proceedure to root out and resolve Democratic ethics problems long before they become public issues.

* Get an immediate accounting of the REAL budget shortfalls, and make sure it is public as soon as possible. Otherwise the Republicans will try to argue that the Democrats created it. Then quickly agree on a Democratic plan to balance the budget, and put it in place. Bush probably will veto it, but that’s okay. Keep passing it every month, make Bush keep vetoing it every month, until public pressure makes him give in.

* Agree to speak with one voice on the Iraq war.

* Put an effective mentorship program in place for freshmen Congressmen, one that deals heavily with ethics compliance.

* Start recruiting candidates for ’08 Congressional seats now, put their organization and fundraising plans in place, and have them do “soft campaigning” – lots of public face time with the big shots.

Fraudoire redux?

a) why so long to get ballots counted; hicks out east W sure count faster
b) ok, so you libs jamming extra provisionals into the box, right?
c) which closet in KC has the extras?
d) if you guys steal a 3rd one (cantwell vs gorton your first we know of), you’ll see people in the streets

Commentby righton— 11/9/06@ 7:12 am

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What is really sad is the fact that we don’t see people in the streets demanding Bush be held accountable for lying us into a war. Oh, I forgot. You probably believe he was 100% honest in building support for the war. You probably still believe we invaded Iraq to keep America safe from Saddam’s WMD’s right?

One question for the wingnuts. If Bush lied to take the country to war, should he be held accountable, or should we just ignore treason because it was committed by a Republican?

John Barelli @ 54

I don’t like the idea of electronic voting machines to begin with. In addition, if you create a paper trail, you eliminate the secrecy of the ballot. The paper trail records votes in the order that they are cast. And the order in which votes are cast can readily be determined by the order in which people sign in at the polls. This would enable specific voters to be matched with specific votes.

If we go to “all mail” voting, what would be the purpose of the electronic voting machine? Unless, of course, we delivered a voting machine to every voter, instead of a paper scannable ballot.

One problem with the “all mail” voting is that it eliminates polling places and therefore makes casting a provisional ballot nearly impossible.

When you have polling places, and don’t get your ballot in the mail, you can go down to the polls on election day, and cast a provisional ballot.

If you don’t have polling places because of “all mail” voting, and don’t get your ballot in the mail, you have to travel all the way down to the county seat, pay for parking in many counties (such as downtown Seattle), and visit the county auditor’s office to cast your provisional ballot.

Not very many people will be motivated to travel to the King County Courthouse to cast a provisional ballot. It would be difficult enough for a city dweller in Ballard or the Rainier Valley. A single mom on welfare in Skykomish or Enumclaw certainly is unlikely to make the trip.

If King County had “all mail” voting in 2000, Slade Gorton would have been re-elected Senator. If King County had “all mail” voting in 2004, Dino Rossi would have be our Governor today.

This is because over 30,000 provisional ballots were cast in King County in 2004, and a similar number were cast in 2000. King County votes very heavy Democrat, and the provisional voters tend to be even more Democrat in their voting.

Stefan Sharkansky is a really clever fellow. He has been extremely obsessive in pointing out the evils of “all mail” voting. He has mobilized Republicans into opposing “all mail” voting, and made Democrats believe that “all mail” voting is something that would actually hurt the Republicans.

If we get “all mail” voting, Republicans will be able to win many close races that might have otherwise gone to the Democrats.

Reply to ProudAss @32

“First of all, you don’t have a heart.”

True enough. After my clogged arteries stifled my rabbit heart, the veterinarian replaced it with a mechanical clock. Don’t you hear the ticking?

“Second of all, rabbits aren’t the ones to talk about admitting people to the human race.”

I suppose you’re right; it is a bit out of place for me to meddle in the affairs of an inferior species.*

* I understand from sources that you humans can fuck, at most, only 2 or 3 times a day (and only when you’re drugged); hell, I can fuck 2 or 3 times a minute!

“After all the vitriol you specifically have spewed, I find it ludicrous to believe anything you write.”

I wrote that you’re an unpatriotic, America-hating, troop-hating, piece-of-shit fascist fuck — and that turned out to be true! How much more proof of my veracity do you need?

“I can only think the DNC sent out the word to get the crazies under control.”

First of all, you don’t think. Zombies with oatmeal inside their skulls aren’t capable of thought. If you’d ever had a thought in your life, you would realize that the DNC is no more capable of telling me what to do than George W. Bush is.

“After reading liberals joyous rants on the internet about how they would like to kill the President of the United States of America, after hearing Rhandi Rhodes simulate it on Air America, after seeing them play a movie in our theaters with our President digitally being assassinated, I say no. No sir.”

I don’t know anything about “rants on the internet” of the nature you mention. I criticized Rhodes on this blog, and I also criticized the movie you’re alluding to, which by the way is a British movie that U.S. liberals had nothing to do with and no control over. I understand your unwillingness to do business with people responsible for this sort of thing. I’m not willing to do business with them, either. If you want to do your wingnutty guilt-by-association thing and extrapolate their actions to liberals in general, and hold all of us responsible for what a few individuals (over whom we have no control) did, then that’s your business.

“You are not sincere. You sir are a liar, not worthy of the great tidings the greatest nation on earth bestows upon its citizens. And that is not because you are a Democrat. There are good Democrats and you sir are not one of them.”

It’s great that we live in America, land of the free, where everyone is entitled to have an opinion. Opinions are like assholes — everybody’s got one. Some stink more than others. You guys started the name-calling. I don’t tolerate people impugning my patriotism. I’m no one’s door mat, I kick back. Any questions, dickhead?

“This blog is not based on the premise of adults debating. That is the SoundPolitics blog.”

Uh-huh … read this comment from Sound Politics then tell me whether you’d like to revise your statement:

“Congratulations Speaker Pelosi, now let the bombs fall where they may. My prediction: terror attack on domestic soil passenger aircraft within the next six months. Casualties in the 2-300 range. And, unfortunately, maybe that’s just what we need. It’s obvious people don’t remember what happened 5 years ago.
Posted by FullContactPolitics at November 8, 2006 10:52 AM”

http://tinyurl.com/ydlfwu

“This blog is for the personal publicity of Goldstein and not much else. It is not a serious forum for debate, never has been.”

Well du-uh … it’s Goldy’s blog and you’re a guest here. Reading it is a voluntary activity. Why are you still here?

“Commentby Truth2006— 11/9/06@ 3:06 am”

I didn’t say you had to accept my offer, ProudAss. That’s up to you. If you want war, I’ll give you war. Any questions?

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d) if you guys steal a 3rd one (cantwell vs gorton your first we know of), you’ll see people in the streets Commentby righton— 11/9/06@ 7:12 am

Cantwell’s been declared the winner and the only people I’ve seen in the streets are celebrating.

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“unless the Republicans do something really stupid over the next two years”

Count on it! Repubs are programmed for stupidity.

“Well du-uh … it’s Goldy’s blog and you’re a guest here. Reading it is a voluntary activity. Why are you still here?”

I am here to monitor hate speech and Democrat threats of violence. You are on the top of the list.

I am here to monitor hate speech and Democrat threats of violence. You are on the top of the list.

You also make predictions. You predicted the GOP would retain control of both houses of Congress. How’d that work out for ya’?

I like the thumbprint idea. . .no need to check without a challenge.

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