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Torching the Road Map

by Lee — Saturday, 4/26/08, 11:14 am

Daniel Levy has a must-read post on what’s happening with the Israeli-Syrian-North Korean situation.

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  1. 1

    michael spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 12:51 pm

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, but first go outside and soak up some sun!

  2. 2

    Daddy Love spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 2:35 pm

    What’s happening with the “Israeli-Syrian-North Korean situation.” is that the administration is still lying to us and trying to paint the other countries in the ME as devils when WE are the ones who came out of nowwhere and without provocation invaded and occupied a country in their midst, setting off a vast sectarian conflict and sending millions of refugees into their countries without lifting a finger to help them with the enormous costs of that exodus.

    We are the ones who cut the legs out from under the PLO and, when the desperate Palestinians elected Hamas as their ruling party of choice, refused to talk to Hamas and look the their way while Israel continues their war crimes of “100 for 1” collective punishment of Palestinians and starves them into what they hope is submission.

    I got more.

  3. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 3:10 pm

    Bush and Rice probably want to keep the pot stirred in the Middle East, because that plays into the neocon conquest agenda.

    However, with the recent discovery of vast oil reserves off the Brazilian coast, they may decide to bomb Brazil instead of Iran.

  4. 4

    Daddy Love spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 4:40 pm

    Here’s a quote:
    Writing in the Washington Post, Robin Wright did add this note of caution: “The sole photograph shared with reporters depicting Syrian and North Korean officials together did not appear to be the Al Kibar reactor site.”
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....04012.html

    Good fucking God. Ooooh, scary North Koreans helping scary dead broke Syrians complete an extremely expensive reactor with no reprocessing facilities.

    Be AFRAID!!! It’s just exactly like SADDAM HAS RETURNED!!!

    The scary, warlike, nuke-possessing, insane, really out-of-control power in the Middle East? Um, it’s US.

  5. 5

    Troll spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 6:05 pm

    I admire the hell out of Israel.

  6. 6

    rhp6033 spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 6:09 pm

    Well, I guess this is an appopriate place as any to post this link – Barry McQuire’s “Eve of Destruction”, along with some interesting photos.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmysVoRBgyA

    Hope the link works. Still working through Goldy’s new programming.

  7. 7

    Daddy Love spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 6:44 pm

    Eve of Destruction is cool. I used to sing it until it fucked up my throat too bad to do the cool Barry McGuire rasp.
    McGuinn and McGuire are just a-catchin’ fire in LA you know where that’s at,
    and no one’s gettin’ fat except Mama Cass…

  8. 8

    SeattleJew spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 8:02 pm

    Sad.

    Lee posts something that may be important enough to trigger a war, where even at the minimum cost could be lo0ss of hundreds of lives, and you clowns ….

    Sad.

  9. 9

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 9:27 pm

    7. Daddy Love spews:
    Eve of Destruction is cool. I used to sing it until it fucked up my throat too bad to do the cool Barry McGuire rasp.

      
    Is it fun to sing karaoke? Enough beer and anyone will sound good.

  10. 10

    Lee spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 9:30 pm

    @5
    I admire the hell out of Israel.

    Then doesn’t what Levy wrote make you hopping mad at the Bush Administration? Because I admire the hell out of Israel too and I’d rather not see it sacrificed to the neocon’s ideology.

  11. 11

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 9:31 pm

    8. SeattleJew spews:
    Sad.
    Lee posts something that may be important enough to trigger a war, where even at the minimum cost could be lo0ss of hundreds of lives, and you clowns ….
    Sad.

      
    Didn’t you get the left wing talking points? Everything this administration says/does is a lie. Why are you falling for it?
      
    daddyboylove posted a link about the photo not appearing to be of the real reactor site. Once bush is impeached the world will be right again.

  12. 12

    michael spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 9:35 pm

    @8

    There’s nothing, beyond what I’m already doing, that I can do to help the situation in the middle east. However, if I don’t go outside, work in the yard, get some sun and exercise then the amount and quality of the work that I do do suffers.

    Some times spading a garden plot or taking a bike ride really is the best thing to do.

  13. 13

    Lee spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 9:38 pm

    @11
    Didn’t you get the left wing talking points? Everything this administration says/does is a lie. Why are you falling for it?

    What does this have to do with what SeattleJew said?

    daddyboylove posted a link about the photo not appearing to be of the real reactor site. Once bush is impeached the world will be right again.

    No. It will take at least a generation to clean up his mess.

  14. 14

    s-choir spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 9:39 pm

    re 11: It seems ‘bizzarro-world’ that we would have to impeach someone who was never legally elected. You seem content enough with the situation, though.

    Maybe if W. Bush had finished what he started in Afghanistan, instead of attempting to finish in Iraq what he felt his father had not finished, the world would be right again. Should we elect Jeb Bush so that he can attack Iran and then turn around and re-attack Afghanistan to finish what his brother failed to do?

    Failure to follow through seems to be a Bush family characteristic.

  15. 15

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 9:52 pm

    14. s-choir spews:
    re 11: It seems ‘bizzarro-world’ that we would have to impeach someone who was never legally elected.

      
    The comprehensive review of the uncounted Florida ballots solidifies George W. Bush’s legal claim on the White House because it concludes that he would have won under the ground rules prescribed by the Democrats.
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f.....A9679C8B63
      
    Even the liberal new york times knows the truth. Please try and keep up.

  16. 16

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 9:53 pm

    14. s-choir spews:
    re 11: It seems ‘bizzarro-world’ that we would have to impeach someone who was never legally elected.

    The comprehensive review of the uncounted Florida ballots solidifies George W. Bush’s legal claim on the White House because it concludes that he would have won under the ground rules prescribed by the Democrats.

    query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9400E3DB1338F931A25752C1A9679C8B63

    Even the liberal new york times knows the truth. Please try and keep up.

  17. 17

    Jane Balough's Dog spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 10:09 pm

    14. s-choir spews:

    re 11: It seems ‘bizzarro-world’ that we would have to impeach someone who was never legally elected.

    Well Clinton wasn’t legally elected either, what’s your point???

  18. 18

    Lee spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 10:23 pm

    @17
    Well Clinton wasn’t legally elected either, what’s your point???

    He wasn’t? How so?

  19. 19

    Jane Balough's Dog spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 10:33 pm

    Well if Bush wasn’t legally elected when he won in 2004 with the closest state being Ohio (a state he won by at least 120,000) and 52% of the popular vote, than surely Clinton wasn’t legally elected who never got close to 50% of the popular vote and ran against two conservatives.

  20. 20

    SeattleJew spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 11:05 pm

    @12 Michael

    No criticism of your getting some sunshine, but trivializing something this serious is another matter.

    Hows about next time someone posts that the next flu epidemic looks to be the big killer …would it be appropriate to comment hat I had a nece piece of pizza too?

  21. 21

    SeattleJew spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 11:11 pm

    Right wing bozoes

    Those of us who consider patriotism more important than party identity, find y’all disgusting.

    Bush effed up. MY COUNTRY will pay for this sad story for many decades and we can only hope to recover from the damage! MY COUNTRY, mY GOD DAMN SCREWED UP COUNTRY . to elaborate on Rev. Wright’s all too right comments.

    What sort of sicko would defend Bush? I wonder if you guys want to kill your won party off.

  22. 22

    michael spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 11:14 pm

    @20

    I think what you see as trivializing I see as letting off steam.

    I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that this issue hits a lot closer to home to you than it does to me. If Lee had been writing about Appalachian coal miners you might be making my argument and I yours.

  23. 23

    s-choir spews:

    Saturday, 4/26/08 at 11:35 pm

    re 19: He wasn’t legally elected in 2004 either. He stole Ohio.

    W. Bush thinks history will vindicate him — but on what evidence? He’s destroyed it all.

    The chickens (or, should I say, chickenhawks) are coming home to roost. These guys are mighty tough hombres hiding behind the ‘guvmints’ skirts.

  24. 24

    Jane Balough's Dog spews:

    Sunday, 4/27/08 at 12:37 am

    -choir spews:

    re 19: He wasn’t legally elected in 2004 either. He stole Ohi

    Ah popycock. He won Ohio by a bigger margin than 120,000 votes because of all the illegal democrat votes. The only election stolen in the last eight years was in Washington State.

  25. 25

    SeattleJew spews:

    Sunday, 4/27/08 at 1:53 am

    @22 michael

    Nope. Unfortunately for me, I care about the same for al people. I have a lot of trouble knowing that fellow humans are being hurt.

  26. 26

    Daddy Love spews:

    Sunday, 4/27/08 at 8:51 am

    Once the Democrat is elected president in 2008, which all the Boy King’s horses and all of his men cannot stop, then we can begin to get something useful done in this country for change.

    – Pass universal health care
    – Rebuild New Orleans
    – Withdraw the Occupation troops from Iraq
    – Stop violating US law by halting the torture of prisoners
    – Focus on neutralizing/marginalizing/capturing Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda
    – Partner with other ME countries for peace in the ME
    – Pressure Israel to halt collective punishment of Palestinians
    – Persuade Israel to negotiate and settle on a Palestinian solution
    – Implement measures such as carbon cap and trade to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and build a green economy that leads the world

  27. 27

    Daddy Love spews:

    Sunday, 4/27/08 at 8:52 am

    Strategic Reset:
    Reclaiming Control of U.S. Security in the Middle East

    http://www.americanprogress.or.....reset.html

    Instead of passively waiting for Iraq’s national leaders to make a series of political decisions that they have shown themselves fundamentally incapable of making amid multiple internal conflicts, the United States should adopt a more active stance to advance its interests throughout the Middle East. In short, the United States needs to implement a strategic reset aimed at using U.S. power to protect our core national interests. The four simultaneous steps our country must now take are:

    – Adopt policies to accept the reality of Iraq’s fragmentation.
    – Implement a phased military redeployment from Iraq in one year.
    – Initiate regional security and diplomatic efforts to contain and resolve Iraq’s conflicts while reshaping the geopolitical balance in the region.
    – Develop a realistic strategy to resolve the Arab-Israeli conflict and stabilize the broader Middle East.

  28. 28

    slingshot spews:

    Sunday, 4/27/08 at 10:00 am

    US spy analysts were busted a while back for oogling over satellite photos depicting the naked breasts of women on nude beaches around the world. It is unbelievable that every square centemeter of Syrian (and all US “enemies”) soil is not being monitored for undesirable activity. To pretend this was a surprise is just another chain-jerking, Kabuki play by the cons. The Bushco failure to alert the congress in a timely manner is just another example of their contempt for the American tradition of constitutional government. It is despicable to stand in the way of any sincere attempt at peace for political reasons.

  29. 29

    Lee spews:

    Sunday, 4/27/08 at 6:19 pm

    @19
    Well if Bush wasn’t legally elected when he won in 2004 with the closest state being Ohio (a state he won by at least 120,000) and 52% of the popular vote, than surely Clinton wasn’t legally elected who never got close to 50% of the popular vote and ran against two conservatives.

    I think you’re having some very big problems grasping how elections in this country work.

  30. 30

    Ed Weston spews:

    Sunday, 4/27/08 at 8:56 pm

    Well I liked the song. Never had a chance to play along with it before.
    Thanx.
    SJ your empathy is admirable, just remember the last guy who took in all of humanities sin. There was a lot less of it back then.
    If all of humanities pain of an instant were to be in anyone’s presense. There wouldn’t even be a greasy stain left of that person.

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