Tune in tonight on 710-KIRO from 7 to 10PM, for the Puget Sound region’s only unabashedly liberal talk radio show:
7PM: The Stranger’s Eli Sanders is back from Vegas where he witnessed the blogger revolution at Yearly Kos. He’ll fill us in on the details, and maybe give us a first hand account of Tim Eyman’s failure in Olympia this week.
8PM: Chris Van Dyk from Citizens for More Important Things will join us to talk the Sonics, Key Arena, and his group’s Initiative 91 to prohibit public subsidies of professional sports stadiums. Are the Sonics worth $200 million in taxpayer money? How about the Storm? Or do we have other priorities? (You know, things like schools.)
9PM: Was the 2004 Presidential election stolen? The Seattle Weekly’s Geov Parrish joins me to talk about Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s stunning expose on Rolling Stone, and why the traditional media won’t cover it. What does this mean for WA state and our move to all vote-by-mail?
Tune in or stream live and join the debate tonight from 7 to 10PM. Call me at 877-710-KIRO (5476) or leave a comment here, and I promise I’ll actually try to read the thread.
It just occurred to me… since global warming is a faith based religion, shouldn’t it be prohibited to teach it in schools? You guys are big on “separation of church and state” and have outlawed any kind of religious activity. Shouldn’t global warming fall in the same category?
Where has Maria Cantwell been lately on gas price gouging? Seems it kinda disappeared after Seattle Times told her to knock it off ’cause there isn’t any.
Who will be her demons now?
Hey Rabbit – Did you find anybody to pay your medical bills yet? Tell us again how you gave up $200/hour to serve humanity and accept the security and low expectations of being a civil service parasite.
Good call on the Kennedy write up. Since you are now a member of the Traditional Media, you can break the ice while Maureen Dowd ponders her new career as a blogger. If the “journalists” were reporting the news, we bloggers could all just post stories about our pets.
Good luck tonight Goldy. Nobody can take this away from you.
How about calling Mark the Reddick and asking him about his fifteen university degrees and his huge bankroll. I like to fall asleep around 9:30 and that will definitely put me over the edge.
I’ll be listening, and hope you talk about Cantwell’s vote on the Death Tax, apparently she voted to keep it, but that could change this week or next (see i.e this statement). Where is she?
Radiohead! The Bends! Rednecks got the bends!!
“Death Tax”
Comment by Nabu — 6/11/06 @ 6:52 pm
Nabu, please enlighten everyone about this “death tax”.
No one else has heard of it.
Now,the estate tax on unearned inherited wealth.. that’s a different subject.
Since my invisible hand is a complete religious fantasy, perhaps it should never be mentioned in schools.
Goldy: Woody Allen said a big portion of success is just showing up. You showed up to all the KVI gigs and countless other political gatherings and you got the show you wanted.
I hope this can be a real “crashing the gates” sort of show. Last week you had Will and Molly on. Let’s get Lynne, Lee, Darryl, Neil, Natasha and all the other sharp liberal voices out there on the air too!
Congrats! Enjoy!
9 –
Who said this?
“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.”
Wow. What an interesting show…..
That Matt Drudge has on KVI 570 AM.
Clueless@10,
I agree. Get all the liberal kooks out there and on the air! Best way to assure a conservative victory.
11- tis true, while my invisible hand is folly, the very greedy hands of an anarchaic market will not rest until they have stolen every pence from the unwitting fools who celebrate (and vote for) being economically raped.
pbj, who is conservative? It sure ain’t the rethugs. They spend money in a fashion that makes the dems look like Quakers.
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“since global warming is a faith based religion” Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy
There’s a lot of pretty smart scientists who say you’re full of shit.
3
I don’t have any medical bills right now. Ask DOCTOR MENGELE who is paying HIS medical bills.
Beverly! Don’t go meet your friend! Talk to Goldy!
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Redneck’s invisible hand is busy right now under his shirt.
Hey Goldy, I ain’t gonna call in unless I can talk about initiatives.
North Carolina! Hoo-ah!
Let me sum up the last hour: Zzzzzzz, [snooze], Zzzzzz
I want more from Beverly from Burien.
You’re doin’ a heckuva job Goldy! Oh, that’s not a compliment any more is it? Sorry. The show is great tonight! I’m really enjoying it, technical glitches and all. It’s actually quite charming to listen to you learn the ropes on live radio. I think you’ve found your calling.
Tim Lieman’s Lies… I like that. Good stuff.
Wow Roger has a voice!!!! He is Real…Do you think he will say “DUCK”
Goldy cut roger off, my god, his most avid supporter…..
Oh my, I can’t decide who’s voice is more shrill — Roger’s or Goldy’s! Thank you for cutting him off!!!
Yikes, The Van Dikester is in the hizzy.
Do you hate Ann Coulter? She is on the radio right now on 570 AM. Call Drudge and tell her what you think of her!!! Or are you all scared weeny liberals whou couldn’t hold your own against a girly girl?
1-866-437-8343
Goldstein cut off Retard Rabbit? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
They are EATING their own! Goldstein now has a radio show and he is disassociating himself with the one man whi supplies 90% of his blog traffic. Now I wish I had been listening.
Sorry but Coulter is way more interesing. Good thing to know the true Goldstein is coming out though. Poor retard rabbit, radio is only for Goldstein!
HAR HAR HAR HAR
Nabu @ 28
Actually I would have liked to hear what Roger had to say. I read his above post, and it is the FIRST (and probably only) time that I agree with him….. I just think Goldy could have given Roger more time, and not get on his Soap “Eyman is a Liar” Box, and let roger continue. He also promised to read this blog and talk about what we were posted……
The trolls here are hilarious. Goldy is Live on the Radio. Goldy is a local voice dealing with local issues . Eat yer heart out.
basiclogicdemands-
Take a gander at these talking points.
Goldy,
what is the value we get from the Sonics. There should be a good pro-vs-con there. What about the rest of the state? We love the sonics on the east side, yet the 200 mil is not so attractive. But we did vote for Paul Allen’s folly before. Should this be a state thing? I think not since I think we are beyond those days now.
Dig the Flaming lips!
You’re right, Nabu. The Estate Tax is unfair. It only effects those who have estates.
Chris@32 If you ask politely, Goldy might fold in a discussion about the initiative process at a later time. Hijacking a radio commentary is a Horse’s Ass of a Different Color from hi-jacking a blog comments thread.
Did this blog crash for a while or something?
I’m on hold, dudes, I should be up soon.
Will @ 38 I believe it did
Mostly I just feel sorry for leftoids. At the height of Stalin’s terror, when his faithful, true-believing prisoners, now condemned, collapsed with grief between two jailers who carried them out to the yard (to be whacked in the head with a shovel – why waste bullets?) – the ever faithful prisoners would cry, “please, just let me tak to Koba. Just one more time. He will understand this is all a mistake!”
That’s pretty much how I see our present-day rabid anti-Bush left; hating America and Bush to the end; believing the best of jihad murderers to the bitter end…
p.s. These were among Stalin’s favorite after dinner stories. The prison commandants saved them up especially to curry favor with the dictator. When the hit the puchline”…all a mistake!” Stalin, not known for his levity, would roar with laughter.
pbj @ 31
“Goldstein cut off Retard Rabbit?”
More wingnut idiocy. He HAD to cut him off, you fucking moron…it was 7:59:58 at the time.
Geez…you wingnuts are so fucking stupid it is almost precious!
das-
What the fuck are you blithering on about? Stalin, Bush? Are you one of those leftist anti-Bushists?
dj
Do you talk like that on the radio?
Gnash your teeth and rend your garments, trolls. . .fall to the ground and foam…It’s live, SUCCESSFUL local LIBERAL radio.
das
“That’s pretty much how I see our present-day rabid anti-Bush left…”
Who give a fuck what you think. You’re a fucking wingnut dolt!
pbj @ 44
“Do you talk like that on the radio?”
Talk like what?
Hey pbj,
What prison were you in for the last 6 months?
Don’t worry, pal, you can always back up to a door knob to get that “Bubba” feeling again.
Gnash your teeth and rend your garments, trolls. . .fall to the ground and foam…It’s live, SUCCESSFUL local LIBERAL radio.
Commentby Tree Frog Farmer— 6/11/06@ 8:57 pm […………………………………………………………………………………………..Tree Frog, Right up there in rating with Rush Limbaugh!!! hehe, JCH Kennedy]
It must be killing the rightie trolls. Goldy on the radio. They don’t want to listen. They’ll lie about NOT listening, but they have their ears glued to the radio. They are sick and like all crooks, cooks and liars secretly want to be exposed so they listen and self mutilate and it’s delicious!
Goldy has a shining image of even-handedness, and open discussion, and I expect him to strive for it with everything he’s got. . . and more power to him!
This is Radio children. Airtime is a scarce commodity. You’ve got to have something to say to get on the air. . .it’s not an open comments thread.
Ordinarily I would notrespond to JamesCraigHerman, but Lush Flimbaugh gets waxed in the Seattle Market. For Goldy to eclipse the drug addict would not be a big deal.
What a crock! Goldstein promised he was going to talk about R65 (gloat is more like it). Did he lose his nerve since he chickened out of debating Tim Eyman?
Tree Frog Farmer,
I thought the J stood for John, but I could be wrong. (I am not so interested as to go fishing around in the uSP comment threads to find out.)
As it happens our own little troll mascott, J Craig Herman (you know, the guy who writes like he has syphilis of the brain), is also a media star.
And as you might expect, Herman’s 15 minutes of media fame is for (you guessed it) HATE. More specifically, Herman hates Joe Paterno!
Now, if there is ever a reason to call someone an un-American commie fuckwad, hating JoePA ranks right up near the top!
Ta-Ta pbj1. . . just roadkill on the media hiway now .
Thanks, dj. Target Acquired .
pbj @ 54
“What a crock! Goldstein promised he was going to talk about R65 (gloat is more like it). Did he lose his nerve since he chickened out of debating Tim Eyman?”
Lay off the crack ya fucking dope! That was hour one of the show.
Sheesh…you fucking wingnut simpletons can’t even read a simple schedule!
And regarding “chickening out,” I’ll only point out that…umm…I heard Goldy talking, but apparently Mr. (Nelly Nellerson) Eyman was too a-scared to show up.
Goldy,
I was only able to catch the Sonics portion and unfortuately missed Roger calling in. Way to go, you did a good show and should be proud. Believe it r not, there are “righty trolls” who agree with you and Van Dyck o the Sonics deal.
Goldy,
Good show so far, man.
I just read Stefan’s sorry post. There’s a big difference between being at the nose of a political movement and being in the asshole of another. Stefan knows where he’s at.
31 etc.
Spin, spin, spin, spin. That’s all these wingfucks know how to do. Spin, and tell lies.
I had a prior arrangement with Goldy that I wouldn’t be on the air for more than 45 seconds so the fascists couldn’t get a good voiceprint. See, I can spin too.
Now let me give you media-illiterate wingfucks the TECHNICAL explanation of why Goldy cut me off. By the time I got off HOLD and on the air, Goldy’s show was coming up on the hourly NEWS BREAK, which doesn’t wait for anyone — not even Roger Rabbit.
This was just a cameo appearance anyway. I had already posted what I was going to say here on the blog. My only reason for calling in was to entertain you pathetic rightwing losers who have nothing to do on a Sunday evening except listen to a radio show hosted by a guy you disagree with about everything.
It doesn’t bother me very much that you trollfucks were deprived of the opportunity to hear Roger Rabbit bash Goldy’s position on initiatives. I like Goldy, and I regret having to disagree with him on this point, but unfortunately I have a nasty habit of thinking for myself.
That’s OK Roger, it sounds like Goldy just cut off Janet S. (Julia from Ballard).
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“Sorry but Coulter is way more interesing.” Commentby pbj1— 6/11/06@ 8:18 pm
I agree, and I find old films of Hitler fascinating, too.
For photo of Hitler’s bitch, click here: http://www.oregonherald.com/ef.....oulter.jpg
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How about if we spread the 200 mil over the whole state, instead of just King County?
Roger Rabbit @ 61
“My only reason for calling in was to entertain you pathetic rightwing losers who have nothing to do on a Sunday evening except listen to a radio show hosted by a guy you disagree with about everything.”
Yeah…what is it with these stupid motherfuckers. They hate Goldy and they hate liberals, yet they spend a huge amount of time reading Goldy, posting comments, and taking abuse when their bluff is called.
I mean, it is good for Goldy’s traffic stats, but fo figure. What a bunch of self-hating sadists!
Nice work David, we plugged in a few time tonight.
One has to log in to Kiro, but once you do it can remember it.
I didn’t call in about the Sonics issue, but here’s what I would have said.
A few years ago, I would have told sports fans, “tell you what — I’ll pay taxes for a basketball arena, if you’ll pay taxes for stuff I want, like education and health care for poor kids.”
But the political paradigm has changed. Now we have a movement sweeping the country that wants to rewrite the social contract so it says, “No, you pay taxes for my arena, and I refuse to pay a dime for anything you want!” The give and take is gone, and we now have a new kind of politics that is totally selfish, that says “I’m not going to pay taxes for anything that doesn’t benefit me personally.”
Why should we cave in to these people? In fact, why should we even talk to them? With these people, there’s nothing to talk about. We should put our energy into defeating them. They’ve redefined the game of politics. Under the new rules, you don’t make deals with other people, you crush them. If that’s the way they want it, then let’s play under those rules. Let’s crush the bastards, and let’s bury their arena.
Ummm, dj@67, while they may be sadistic and aspire to participate along with Rummy at Abu Ghraib, to participate in acts that cause the self pain and self-loathing, one is usually called a masochist.
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Getting your history from the Robert Duvall movie?
Tree Frog Farmer @ 70
doh! Yes, indeed.
41 (continued)
I might add that your slavish loyalty to the biggest idiot ever to occupy the Oval Office doesn’t say much for your intellect.
Ah this is cute. A bunch of liberal commies trying to act all grown up and become players in the talk radio market. I wonder which local public charity will get ripped off to keep you a float? This question will be answered soon enough. Hehehe
Outstanding Radio, Goldy! Kudos!
Wait a minute. That seemed almost too good. Did you practice?
Nice job, Goldy!
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So — JCH is one of those jerks who CUTS DOWN RAIN FORESTS.
“Then he told me about how he is building a new house on a two-acre, rainforest property …”
Psssst…RUFUS @ 74
“Ah this is cute. A bunch of liberal commies trying to act all grown up and become players in the talk radio market.”
(*dj whispers out of the side of his mouth*)
Nobody round here has see a real “commie” for about 20 years. Get with it.
Goldy can you unzip it a little further. Thanks
Even on an arcane topic like Penn State football, the guy’s an extremist flamer. There must be something wrong with his DNA.
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I consider it a compliment when a trollfuck calls me a “commie.” It’s the worst insult they have in their playbook, and when they use it against me, I know that I’m getting to them where it hurts.
Nobody round here has see a real “commie” for about 20 years. Get with it.
Commentby dj— 6/11/06@ 10:07 pm
Well at least not one that matters. Thanks Ronald Reagan.
dj want to give you a bj
“Goldy can you unzip it a little further. Thanks”
I’m shocked…simply shocked! This is the politics of personal destruction.
It makes me want to go bomb the bejesus out of some Ay-rabs.
63
I’m not gonna lose any sleep over it. Goldy can cut me off anytime he wants. And Mark the Reddick can lick my cute cottontail anytime he wants! For a good time, call 1-800-LICK-ROG
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“what is it with these stupid motherfuckers” Commentby dj— 6/11/06@ 9:47 pm
You nailed it. When their mother isn’t around, they have to find something else to do.
RUFUS @ 83
“Well at least not one that matters. Thanks Ronald Reagan.”
Here’s an idea…thank him in person.
(I contribute the razor blades….)
#30 for PBJ
Hey, if you like Anne Coulter, I’ve got a book recommendation for ya – Catcher in the Rye. Just the right intellectual level I’d say. Check it out.
Here’s an idea…thank him in person.
(I contribute the razor blades….)
Commentby dj— 6/11/06@ 10:15 pm
I voted for him. Thats thanks enough.
Roger Rabbit @ 61
(* Corrected release *)
“My only reason for calling in was to entertain you pathetic rightwing losers who have nothing to do on a Sunday evening except listen to a radio show hosted by a guy you disagree with about everything.”
Yeah…what is it with these stupid motherfuckers. They hate Goldy and they hate liberals, yet they spend a huge amount of time reading Goldy, posting comments, and taking abuse when their bluff is called.
I mean, it is good for Goldy’s traffic stats and all that, but go figure. What a bunch of self-hating masochists!
Of course in 84 who didnt vote for Reagan. Not many. I respected Mondale because he was the last liberal who was honest on what he was going to do if he got elected. Tax the shit out of you. He got thumped but at least he was honest.
Grandpa Rabbit — you sound like you’re over the hill, what are you like 65 or 70? Come on gramps, back to your room and off to see the Sandman. You’ve already had too much excitement for one night!
Gold-standard tonight Goldy. Better ask those podcast producers to give you some more tips; not to nitpick, but you hung up on one guy, and didn’t handle that guy “Jay” from Federal Way very well…
RUFUS @ 89
“I voted for him. Thats thanks enough.”
No…you can do more. Much more.
Just consider it…
Goldy did as good as was to be expected. The same warmed up looney leftist shit served on a different tray. That is all you can ask for. Good job Goldy.
Well, Goldy, it seems there was a small glitch with the blog tonight. . . .mebbe too many hits? But in any case,Bravo. Betcha can sell some more blogads now. . .might get the ole revenue up to a pitcher a week. (It stinks how hard it is to actually make a living on just the ‘net.)
I think your breakout to MSM is great.
Betcha can sell some more blogads now. . .might get the ole revenue up to a pitcher a week
Commentby Tree Frog Farmer— 6/11/06@ 10:29 pm
Hey rip off a national charity organization and you may have it made.
The problem with Wingnuts is that they are fucking stupid and almost always wrong.
Case in point: In 2004, J. Craig Herman—you remember him, the guy with syphillis of the brain—was bashing Joe Paterno to the Penn State Student newspaper. He opined:
Of course, in 2005 Penn State went 11 and 1.
Typical ignorant wingnut fuck!
And, doesn’t hating Paterno make J Craig Herman an anti-American fuck?
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Close enough for government work. My age starts with a “6” and it’s already half an hour past my bedtime. However, it doesn’t take me as long to brush my teeth anymore, because there aren’t as many teeth as there used to be.
92
I’m a multigenerational rabbit. I have bunnies, grandbunnies, great-grandbunnies, great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandbunnies, great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandbunnies …
Yes…the 100th comment in this thread.
Goldy’s blog sure has an active commenting community!
I thought Goldy’s show was pretty good. A lot better than Erin Hart or Mike Webb. And I don’t see anything wrong with his radio voice. Nice to see Goldy treating his callers with respect. Didn’t expect it from the tone he uses on his blog.
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“Hey rip off a national charity organization and you may have it made.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 6/11/06@ 10:35 pm
Republicans think big. They want to rip off Social Security.
Goldy’s blog sure has an active commenting community!
Commentby dj— 6/11/06@ 10:43 pm
True, but 90% of it comes from 10 or 15 posters.
Richard @ 103
Although in this thread there are 28 unique commenters up to comment 103.
103
So what? Four or five repetitive posters account for most of the traffic on the pathetic little competing blog.
Even trollfucks prefer to post on HA.
The other issue is, that there are probably ten Lurkers for every poster. . .maybe more. If half that number tuned in to Sunday Night Radio, you probably upped Kiro’s sagging numbers. . . . . . . . .
Here is the cumulative percentage, number and first word of the commenter’s name.
To address Richard’s claim that “90% of it comes from 10 or 15 posters” we can see that the top 17 posters account for 90% of the posts (through 112).
Now…if I were a wingnut, I would accost poor Richard by accusing him of lying.
0.179, 20, Roger
0.348, 19, dj
0.473, 14, Tree
0.554, 9, Will
0.607, 6, RUFUS
0.661, 6, pbj1
0.705, 5, Nabu
0.741, 4, chris
0.768, 3, Mark
0.795, 3, Jimmy
0.813, 2, Richard
0.830, 2, For
0.848, 2, Erik
0.866, 2, Anonymous
0.884, 2, Adam
0.893, 1, zip
0.902, 1, thehim
0.911, 1, skagit
0.920, 1, rip
0.929, 1, REP
0.938, 1, liberalgirlnextdoor
0.946, 1, LeftTurn
0.955, 1, is
0.964, 1, global
0.973, 1, dj…
0.982, 1, das
0.991, 1, but
1.000, 1, basiclogicdemands
Liberal talk would much more successful if it was spoon fed in betweens schticks on like Howard Stern or Tom Liekis. You team up with a shock jock that gets a decent size audience and just force the drivel down the throat of listners between segments. It would give you a lot more exposure. It may even translate into more legitmate votes for the left, that is if the 20 somethings remember to vote after their last bong hit.
Unfortunately there were altogether too many evenings listeing to Erin Hart and Mike Webb flog the airwaves trying to get callers. Lou Pate just gave up and turned on the monologue. Their current crop is nearly as bad. . .Stibel (sp?) and Shiers are pathetic in that department.
Goldy has to ration his caller’s time. Figure it out.
Rufus @ 109
What the fuck are you babbling about?
I see in the news the military has completed Zarqawi’s autopsy, but hasn’t released the results. Since I already know what the autopsy report will say, I’ve reproduced it below. As you know, government scientists never find anything their bosses don’t want them to find.
“Memo to: Defense Secretary
“Re: Zarqawi Autopsy Results
“By: Captain (soon to be major) I. M. Bootlicker
“The results of the autopsy have confirmed that Zarqawi died of whatever causes you are currently ascribing his death to. Since we’re a little isolated here in our camel tent in Iraq, most of what we hear is at least a week old, but it’s currently my understanding our autopsy confirms that Zarqawi died from the blast effects of a 500-lb. bomb despite the heroic efforts of U.S. Army medics to save his life. However, in case that has changed, then our autopsy confirms that Zarqawi died from ___________.”
However, in case that has changed, then our autopsy confirms that Zarqawi died from Global Warming on a massive scale.”
Carla, William J “Icebox” Jefferson, DEMOCRAT, LA, Cinthia McKinney, “Bitchslap”, DEMOCRAT, GA, Pat “Bitchslap The Black Security Bitch At The LAX Airport” Kennedy, DEMOCRAT, RI, Robert “KKK” Byrd, DEMOCRAT, WV……………………Would you like more?? OK,………….. S. Jackson Lee, DEMOCRAT, “Move The American Flag On Mars To Where The Astronauts Landed”, TX, Tip “Big 12 Billion Dig” O’Niel, DEMOCRAT, MS, Teddy “Oldsmobile” Kennedy, DEMOCRAT, Chavis Regal, MASS
Hmmm … discrepancies are already arising in the military’s account of Zarqawi’s death. According to CNN, “military personnel cleaned the blood off al-Zarqawi’s dead face before taking a photo of it,” and a military spokesman claims the time stamp on that photo, 6:17 p.m., is incorrect and the photo actually was taken over an hour later. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/.....l?eref=aol
Sounds fishy.
According to the same article, the dumb asshole made cell phone calls.
Hey Craig Herman @ 114,
It look like you REALLY blew it on your PSU 2005 prediction. Shit, man, the pathetic 2004 season was probably inflicted by traitorous assholes like you who demoralized Joe Paterno with your whining.
113
“Zarqawi died from global warming”
That’s good. I like it. Expect to see it on NBC News tomorrow night.
114
Don’t you have some more trees to cut down?
Wow! This thread already has 120 comments. That’s more than Stefan’s pathetic little blog has gotten since 2003. Even trollfucks prefer HA.
and a military spokesman claims the time stamp on that photo, 6:17 p.m., is incorrect and the photo actually was taken over an hour later.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/11/06@ 11:14 pm
Rabbit make sure you check the subscript of the time foil stamp before you run with it. Courage rabbit, courage.
110 frog farmer
110 frog farmer
121
“Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, spokesman for Multi-National Forces-Iraq, … said … (t)he time stamp on the photo … was incorrect. It said 6:17 p.m., but actually was taken about 7:20 p.m.”
You got a problem with it, bitch to General Caldwell about it.
110 tree frog farmer
Sorry! Re rationing his time – don’t agree! That’s why I tune out of radio shows. Get tired of people getting cut off. I like the discussion. Too many hosts just want sound bites. Hopefully, Goldy will do in the future just what he did tonight. Honor his callers thoughts as well as his own. Interestingly, he got a bunch of very good callers.
Yeah, I’m a troll. Have viewed before but never found much of interest from you folks so moved on.
One interesting thing I learned from Goldy’s show tonight is the same taxes would pay for the Sonics’ arena regardless of whether the team played at Seattle Center, in Bellevue, or in Renton — because it would be paid for by county taxes, and all of those locations are in King County.
The Sonics can move to Idaho, for all I care. The only sport I care about is dog racing. You know, where dogs chase a rabbit around a track. And the only part of that sport I care about is whether the rabbit wins.
Especially if I’m the rabbit.
Troll @125
If you find this blog uninteresting, there’s no reason for you to linger, is there? Don’t let the door hit your ass on your way out.
Another troll bites the dust. Is John McDonald still posting on the pathetic little competing blog? He was the last time I looked. That chickenshit lasted only three weeks here.
Hey Skagit@122&123 Bad radio is bad radio You got a problem with that? Goldy is GOOD RADIO You got a problem with that?
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61,
So not only do you post hundreds of times to support his blog’s post count, you arrange to call in mutliple times to make it look like he has an audience. Gotcha.
As a former Arbitron surveyor, I am curious how you are going to fool the surveyors that track the audience? Do you know how it is done? I do.
132
If you’re so smart, how many times did I call in tonight?
132 (continued)
Did you sleep through the part where Goldy recognized my voice, dumbfuck?
132 (continued)
I’m interested in hearing your explanation of how I would be able to get away with calling in multiple times, when Goldy is able to recognize my voice.
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But thanks for giving me the opportunity to add 4 more posts to Goldy’s thread count.
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What the hell, make it 5 more posts.
PBJ=Pathetic Blog Jockey.
“As a former Arbitron surveyor, I am curious how you are going to fool the surveyors that track the audience? Do you know how it is done? I do.”
HAW-HAW-HAW-HEE-HEE-HEE-OH-OH I’m gonna hurt myself laughing.
pbj @ 132
“So not only do you post hundreds of times to support his blog’s post count”
Right! Just like you do!
“you arrange to call in mutliple times to make it look like he has an audience. Gotcha.”
What the fuck? Are you fracking demented? How on earth did you read Mr. Rabbit’s message at 61 and come away from the experience believing he called in multiple times?
Gawd…you stoopid assholes are permanently whacked out!
“As a former Arbitron surveyor…”
Look, Bub…we don’t give a shit whose ass you were checking out…
Woger ..
don’t wabbits have anything better to do with their time? I thought wabbits were always copulating?
Jeez, Roger, the first time my wife went to the Dog Races in Portland some friends told her to bet on Dusty the mechanical rabbit. . .he never loses. She actually tried to place the bet. . . . .
Hey TFF at 130 . . . Yeah, that’s what I said! It was good radio so why do you want to mess with it? He did it right so what’s your effin’ problem?
Hey ‘Toon at 128 . . . you got a life? Or is this it?
Just as there are trolls on blogs, there are cranks on talk radio. Learning to manage them is part of the trade. One notorious crank did call in tonight, but Goldy handled it well.
Another crank (did not call tonight) is the infamous Darryl who is roughly the radio equivalent of J Craig Herman.
Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, spokesman for Multi-National Forces-Iraq, … said … (t)he time stamp on the photo … was incorrect. It said 6:17 p.m., but actually was taken about 7:20 p.m.”
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/11/06@ 11:25 pm
Looks like the camera wasn’t set to DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. These errors of one hour happen quite frequently in real life.
The Sonics can move to Idaho, for all I care. The only sport I care about is dog racing. You know, where dogs chase a rabbit around a track. And the only part of that sport I care about is whether the rabbit wins.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/11/06@ 11:30 pm
Actually, dog racing uses a mechanical rabbit, not a real one. The mechanical rabbit ALWAYS goes faster than the dogs. If the dogs actually cagght the rabbit, it would ruin the race.
Do you know where I can get a realistic female looking mechanical rabbit to decoy Roger Rabbit? Will pay $75 reward for working model.
Nice Richard, nice. That was the point of the rather mean trick I recounted being played on my wife.
So why is David Goldstein the only liberal talk show host on KIRO 710? What about Dave Ross and Ron Reagan?
TFF – the only crank I heard tonight was the ‘toon. Of course, I don’t have your fine ear. Who was the other one?
Tree Frog Farmer @ 144
Darryl????
Perhaps the wingnut caller is really Darrell a.k.a. PuddyBud?
And if it is Daryl you were thinking of, maybe it was this person.
I, on the other hand, am the good Darryl.
Richard – I agree Dave is liberal but more of a centrist lib. He doesn’t really like the label cause he’s trying to be more middle of the road. Goldy yells lib at the top of his lungs. Reagan I haven’t heard but he also cops to being a liberal. Dave has really never outed himself – except when he ran as a dem!
re 1: You’re absolutely right , MTRA, Global Warming is a religion!
And all you need to do to end it is: EAT A CRACKER AND TAKE A SIP OF GRAPE JUICE!
dj @ 108: “To address Richard’s claim that “90% of it comes from 10 or 15 posters” we can see that the top 17 posters account for 90% of the posts (through 112).”
You’re assuming that people aren’t posting under different names, which never happens here, right?
Sorry, Goldy, I missed your show last night but it sounds like you did well for your first ‘official’ time out. Good luck, and maybe this blogging thing will pay (finally).
I just want to point out that the disksucker who runs Sound Politics doesn’t have a radio show. He claims he could. But then again he claims to be hetrosexual too. What a bitch.
I just want to pint out that Goldy’s first time up to bat, he accomplishes in makiing himself out to be a complete jackass.
Hour 2, talking points, he brings in a clown sponsoring an inititaive direcrtly against the Storm and the Sonics. Umm newsflash shithead, the storm and sonics are major sponsors of KIRO, sponshorship equals operating budget. Probably not the smartest move if you are looking towards longevity. I have a feeling there are some pissed off ad and sponsorship people at KIRO this morning.
Hour 3, Goldy plans on diuscussing a stolen election, based on an expose written by RFK lr, whose Uncle’s 1960 election is widely argued as having been stolen by an Illinois swing vote, which was bought and paid for y the Chicago Mob.
whose Uncle’s 1960 election is widely argued as having been stolen by an Illinois swing vote
By idiots. Illinois did not swing the 1960 election.
I am interested in hearing rabbit’s perspective on this story….
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....leg12.html
Personally, it is my belief that UW is incredibly mismanaged. The Unions have a stranglehold on the classified staff, the professional staff is overstaffed by about 30%. Undergraduate admission policy’s are in a slap in the face to laws extablished by the voters of this state and are pure liberal racism, etc….
You complain about the Sonics unrealistic demands, I am interested in hearing your psychotic viewpoints on this.
ATJ,
Please enlighten me.
Please tell me how Illiois, especially Cook County whose surpise 450,000 kennedy votes did not swing this. I have to tell you, I have never heard anyone argue that Illinois (along with Texas) was not the determining factor in this election.
I may to go out an buy some tinfoil and make a hat so this starts to make sense, but go ahead.
BTW, the idiots you speak of include many of the most widely read Historians of our age.
Kennedy won in 1960, 303-219. Illinois had 27 electoral votes. Do the math.
I missed the radio show last night, regardless of reports that I called in.
I wish I had heard the third hour, if Kennedy was on. It is kind of funny that the left wing media like Slate has debunked his claims, but goldy persists on touting it. Seems as if his facts are right, but not complete. He only uses those that support his theory but ignores the half that refutes it. I guess truth doesn’t matter as long as you have a famous family name. Some radio hosts will be starstruck, and give you air regardless.
A.- I’ll be honest. I think there were some quid pro quos they made with organized crime before the election. They did work closely with the [Sam] Giancana family. There’s no question about it. And what did they want? Well, you know, everybody thinks that they wanted the FBI to stop pushing them around. The FBI had begun investigating organized crime in the last years of the Eisenhower Administration, and had done a great job. For Bobby Kennedy to suddenly stop that would be impossible. So they had to live with that continued pressure.
Everybody said that’s such an interesting conundrum. How could the Kennedys be connected with organized crime while the Kennedys are still investigating them? In fact, two months after Kennedy became Attorney General the FBI came up with a terrific field report saying the [1960] election was stolen in Chicago. The sources for this include all sorts of FBI officials who are still alive.
It was given to Bobby Kennedy, who killed it. Bobby Kennedy could do that. But he couldn’t stop the investigations. He could not go ahead with an investigation into his brother’s election but he couldn’t stop the continuing investigation. It just would have been too overt.
from: http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/.....ories.html
Author, that idiot Seymour hersch
janet.
Kennedy was not on (why would he be on a parasite like goldies show?), the discussion was with geov parish, another local hack.
next week, Goldy and his sidekick Richard Lee are going to get down to the real business of who actually killed Kurt cobain.
It’s kinda funny how paid wingnut Trolls like Janet S. can’t read.
Author, that idiot Seymour hersch
Where did Hersh claim that Illinois swung the 1960 presidential election?
It’s Kinda funny how Momus can’t do the math @ 162
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_state
Again, I submit, I have NEVER heard anyone rgue that Illinois was not a swing state
Again, I submit, I have NEVER heard anyone rgue that Illinois was not a swing state
The outcome in Illinois did not change the outcome of the election, which is what you claimed in post #158. How would changing the outcome in Illinois have given the election to Nixon?
It’s kinda funny how a momus, when confronted with its own stupidity changes its comment from
@ 161 “I have never heard anyone argue that Illinois (along with Texas) was not the determining factor in this election.â€
To
@ “Again, I submit, I have NEVER heard anyone rgue that Illinois was not a swing stateâ€
Conclusion: a momus has no integrity, and has absolutely no value in an adult conversation.
Henceforth, a disengenuous comment, or outright lie shall be known as “a momus”.
Such as; When the President stated that Iraq had WMD, he was telling a big momus
It’s kida funy…
Ya, and that is definitely an adult comment.
Another TJ.
to get back to your myopic attack an post 158. I was not writing a thesis on the 1960 election, rather pointing out the hypocracy of the rolling stone piece being written by RFK JR.
If you’d like, we can have a whole other discussion on the 1960 election and the crackpot conspiracy theories (along with the 200 and 2004 wackjob theories) about stolen elections. Had i gone itno it in depth I would have discussed texas and the fact that Hawaii’s electoral votes were later overturned and returned to Nixon.
Another TJ,
what I intepret you post at post 159 to read is that you disagree that the election is widely contested, which it is…
It’s kinda funny how a momus when its dysfuntional and dismeritous argument style is exposed using its own words, retreats to changing the subject. It is almost if a momus wishes to divorce itself from its own statements.
I was not writing a thesis on the 1960 election, rather pointing out the hypocracy of the rolling stone piece being written by RFK JR.
You were making an ad hominem attack on RFK, Jr., and you managed to look stupid doing it.
I am not going to argue with you that i ended up looking stupid
Holy crap. I just read Sharkansky’s green-with-envy post about Goldy’s radio show.
The thing reads like some 7 year-old wrote it. A very jealous 7 year old! Does Shark know how stupid it looks when a 45 year-old manchild devolves into…well…a child – even if it’s just for a moment?
What a bitter, angry a frustrated man. No wonder he found a home with the Republican Party!
I won’t give him he hit. But it doesn’t surprise me. An examination of his revenue stream will reveal someone who doesn’t function in an open market. . .more the typically ‘sheltered workshop’ patronage model. . .’Yer doin’ a heckuvva job, Sharkie!’
Mr. JoeBob @ 176.
You are right on the money about Sharkansky, except I would lower the age to a whining 5 year old who did not get his favorite toy and now sees fit to throw a tempert tantrum.
What a pathetic waste of bandwith. I can understand if the shark disagrees with Mr. Goldstein politically, but to engage in personnal attacks instead of honest criticism (a voice that sounds like Pee-Wee Herman sucking helium. Please) is the sign of a juvinile mind.
In the words of my ex First Sergeant, the man has issues.
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That particular urban legend was debunked before you were born. Even if Daley did rig the Chicago tally, Nixon needed more than Illinois’ electoral votes to win. From Wikipedia:
“Some Republicans alleged that Kennedy benefited from vote fraud …. The Republican party urged Nixon to pursue recounts and challenge the validity of some of the votes for Kennedy, especially in the pivotal states of Illinois, Missouri and New Jersey, where large majorities in Catholic precincts handed Kennedy the election. Nixon publicly refused to call for a recount, saying it would cause a constitutional crisis. However, privately, he encouraged GOP Chair Thruston Morton to push for a recount, which Morton did in 11 states, keeping challenges in the courts into the summer of 1961; the only result was the loss of the State of Hawaii to Kennedy on a recount.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.....tion,_1960
Got that, Momus Pompous Idiotus? Nixon got recounts in 11 states, and still lost.
1960 presidential election result:
Kennedy, 303 electoral votes
Nixon, 219 electoral votes
Illinois electoral votes: 27
If Daley stole Illinois for Kennedy, the proper result was:
Kennedy, 276 electoral votes (303-27)
Nixon, 246 electoral votes (291+27)
Kennedy still wins.
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Send me your address and I’ll mail you the tinfoil for your hat.
Momus, I have a suggestion for you. Next time, do some research before you make a public ass of yourself, and spare yourself the embarrassment of looking like a fool because you failed to do a simple one-step mathematical subtraction.
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“I am interested in hearing rabbit’s perspective on this story….
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....leg12.html” Commentby momus— 6/12/06@ 9:26 am
Your wish is my command.* (*At my discretion.)
First of all, unions don’t have a damn thing to do with the tuition issue discussed in the article, and I consider your allegations of mismanagement to be as baseless as your union-bashing is irrelevant.
Now for the tuition issue.
In a perfect world, the UW would have enough money, and every qualified student would be able to afford to attend. Unfortunately, this is a very imperfect world.
The UW obviously is using the threat of higher undergraduate tuition as leverage to squeeze more money out of the legislature. Why? Because UW administrators want to have as much spending money as their peer institutions have. No doubt they would put it to good use, and use it for beneficial purposes, as opposed to buying yachts for UW administrators.
But the state budget is not a bottomless pocket, and faced with competing demands for limited funds, legislators are giving the UW less than what the administrators want. Shit happens.
So … this brings us to Plan B. If legislators can’t and won’t give more state money to the UW (by, say, starving K-12) then the UW’s alternative plan is to exercise university control over undergraduate tuition. Since the legislature gave the U control over graduate tuition several years ago, we know exactly what will happen: Tuition will go up.
A quotation from the U’s president in the article you linked leaves absolutely no doubt about this:
“President Mark Emmert said he would prefer to obtain more money from the state rather than through tuition increases. But if the state is unwilling or unable to bring the UW in line with its peers, ‘the university needs the ability to close that gap with tuition dollars,’ he said.’
Moreover, Emmert quantified his wish:
“Officials say the UW needs an additional $75.9 million to bring its funding in line with its peer institutions, which spend between $3,000 and $5,000 more per student.”
…
“Incoming students from Washington will pay $5,988 in tuition and fees this fall.”
So … what we’re talking about is raising undergraduate tuition from about $6,000 to somewhere between $9,000 to $11,000. That would unquestionably price a lot of students with modest means out of school, and deprive them of their opportunity to get a university education (because private colleges sure aren’t cheaper), disadvantaging them for the rest of their lives.
That isn’t what a public university is supposed to do to the citizens it serves.
And for what? Why would administrators do this to the students they’re supposed to serve? To gold-plate their university. To be on equal footing with institutions they regard as “peers.” In other words, for ego … AND … people with bigger budgets usually demand higher salaries on the grounds they have greater responsibilities.
To sum up my answer to your question, Momus, if Emmert can’t do any better than this then he’s not worth a fraction of the million or so a year the public is paying him to run the UW.
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We pay Emmert to make the most of the resources we can give him — NOT to extort money from the legislature at the expense of other vital programs, or to price students out of an education.
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Geee-zuss, Janet, if you can’t do any better than spit up the official talking points maybe you should hire a script writer.
Tell me, how is it that all of the “left wing media” is owned by right-wing billionaires?
At least you have enough sense not to challenge the facts he cited. Those facts, by themselves, are damning regardless of whether they changed the result. Anybody who runs an election like Blackwell did should be jailed. If I lived in Ohio and that was my right to vote he fucked with, I’d go looking for him with a gun.
Just kidding! If Coulter can crack jokes about violence, why can’t I? Nothing is in bad taste anymore — as long as a Republican says it. Well, why should Republicans have a monopoly on bad jokes and bad taste? Republicans want a monopoly on every fucking thing.
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Thanks for the link, Momus. Hersch is a fascinating guy, and one of the more ethical and credible journalists around. The notion that JFK was bumped off by the mob has been popularized in the movies, and has a certain credibility to it. The theory that Castro was behind it enjoys a more logical credibility, because after all Kennedy plainly was trying to kill Castro, and it would only be natural for Castro to retaliate. I personally don’t have a pet theory about who did it, but it does seem unlikely to me that Oswald was a madman acting on his personal impetus. I do tend to think Kennedy’s assassination resulted from a clash of powerful forces.
As for the FBI report that Kennedy stole the election in Chicago, once again, do the fucking math: There weren’t enough electoral votes in Illinois to steal the election. Even if Daley stole Illinois for Kennedy, all he stole was an election Kennedy won anyway. But more importantly, let’s not forget this was J. Edgar’s FBI that wrote the report. Whatever their competence and reputation was at tracking down bank robbers and run-of-the-mill gangsters, when J. Edgar meddled in politics he was capable of any fucking thing. I mean ANY FUCKING THING. A report written by an FBI ruled by Hoover that Kennedy stole the election would end up in the dirt collecting file. It would exist to be used for blackmail or to feed one of J. Edgar’s personal hatreds. And there’s a damn good chance it would be chock full of lies. It would be the sort of report that would get sent back to the field for more editing until it said what the boss wanted it to say. Kind of a 1960’s version of WMD intel.
In terms of the larger picture, we all know the Kennedys were assholes. I’ve known that since I was 16 years old. They didn’t even try to make a secret of it. But you know what? American voters don’t want a Mother Teresa in the White House. They want an asshole, because the world is full of assholes, and they figure it takes one to deal with them. Maybe that helps to explain the Dubya phenomenon — by that I mean a significant number (by no means all) of American voters voting for a guy who is very plainly a liar and a crook. Even after subtracting the votes created inside the black boxes, Bush still got a lot of votes. I know a lot of people voted for him, because I see the bumper stickers on their cars, even in my Democratic neighborhood. Americans want their presidents to be assholes. So Kennedy passed that test with flying colors. They liked him all the better for it.
I have always believed LBJ blackmailed his way onto the ticket. The Hersch interview offers some confirmation of that, although it’s less than rock-solid. That doesn’t matter. It’s obvious how Johnson got on the ticket, even if you have no evidence and know nothing else about it except the personalities of the two men. They were absolutely incompatible. I don’t believe LBJ arranged a hit on JFK, but they were almost that incompatible. Everything we know about LBJ argues that it’s not credible that he didn’t want the vice presidency and that he would refrain from his normal bullying, manipulating, and blackmailing to get the one thing in the world he wanted most besides the presidency itself, which was the office next in line for the presidency and the number 1 stepping stone to the only higher ranking job in government.
But, Momus, none of the foregoing establishes that Kennedy stole the 1960 election, or that Daley or organized crime or somebody else stole it for him. It’s all interesting historical tidbitry, but the math is still there staring you in the face: Illinois did not have enough electoral votes to affect the outcome.
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“Where did Hersh claim that Illinois swung the 1960 presidential election?” Commentby Another TJ— 6/12/06@ 10:12 am
In the Hersch interview that Momus linked to, to wit:
“In fact, two months after Kennedy became Attorney General the FBI came up with a terrific field report saying the [1960] election was stolen in Chicago. The sources for this include all sorts of FBI officials who are still alive.”
Actually, Hersch doesn’t “claim that Illinois swung the 1960 presidential election” or even claim that Illinois was stolen for Kennedy. All he says is “the FBI came up with a terrific field report saying the election was stolen in Chicago.” I supposed his use of the word “terrific” could imply that he’s endorsing the report, but I think that’s ambiguous.
As you’ve pointed out, Illinois didn’t have even electoral votes to put Nixon over. So, if it was stolen, it had to be stolen in Illinois and somewhere else, too. What little Hersch tells us about the FBI report offers nothing to suggest that report delved into anything besides the Chicago vote. If that was the limit of the report’s horizons, then it couldn’t possibly reach a valid conclusion that the election was stolen or not stolen. They had to investigate more than one state to determine that.
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“I was not writing a thesis on the 1960 election, rather pointing out the hypocracy of the rolling stone piece being written by RFK JR.”
1. If your thesis that the 1960 election was stolen is wrong, then there is no basis for your hypocrisy charge.
2. If your thesis that the 1960 election was stolen is correct, there still is no basis for your hypocrisy charge. Robert Kennedy Jr. was only 6 years old in 1960. Whatever happened or didn’t happen in 1960, he had nothing to do with it. How can he be a hypocrite for saying the 2004 election was stolen when he had absolutely nothing to do with the 1960 election?
This comment underscores the untrained and undisciplined nature of your reasoning process. Your attempts at argument lack logic and rigor. In a word, your arguments are sloppy, and sloppy arguments aren’t persuasive. I will give you credit for at least making the attempt to support your argument with a statement of facts and an effort to make logical connections between facts and conclusions. That’s much more than most wingnuts do. You’re just not very good at it, that’s all.
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Well, I agree there are crackpot conspiracy theories about the 2004 election, if you’re talking about the governor’s election.
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I will concede that a lot of people believe the 1960 election was stolen, but the fact an urban legend has wide currency doesn’t make it true. A lot of people believe in flying saucers and sasquatches, too.
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Along the same lines, a lot of people here in Washington believe the Democrats stole the 2004 governor’s election in King County, but all that proves is the Republican propagandists are effective liars.
What IS true of the 2004 governor’s election is there was sloppy work and lost ballots in the KCRE office. (There were lost ballots in other counties, as well.)
What also is true of the 2004 governor’s election is that it would have been much closer than 133 votes if all of Rossi’s valid ballots had been counted, but his own legal team was responsible for making the decision not to turn in roughly 200 signatures the Republicans collected statewide. Roughly 70% of the Democrats’ signatures produced countable votes, and if we extrapolate the same percentage to Rossi’s approximately 200 signatures, that’s 140 valid votes, which would have put him ahead of Gregoire by 7 votes after Judge Bridges subtracted 4 from his total. Of course, if Rossi had won the manual recount, by however slim a margin, there would have been no lawsuit and Rossi would have kept those 4 votes, so the margin would have been around 10. However, the 200 is a guesstimate and the 70% is an extrapolation, so these numbers by no means prove that Rossi got more legitimate votes than Gregoire. If only 65% of Rossi’s signatures were good, he would have won by 1 vote. If 60% were valid, he would have lost by 13 votes. (These figures assume an election contest and consequent subtraction of 4 votes from Rossi in any scenario in which Rossi was behind after the manual recount.)
And this analysis assumes everything else would have stayed the same. At the end of the manual recount, but before the King County canvassing board disposed of King County’s disputed ballots, Greogire was ahead by 8 votes. In other words, 125 of her final 133 margin came from the ballots that the King County canvassing board decided should be counted. The canvassing board consisted of Dan Satterwhite from Norm Maleng’s office, Dean Logan, and King County Council Member Larry Philips. Satterwhite generally voted for the GOP’s interests, while Logan and Philips generally voted in a way that favored the Democrats, so you could argue those votes were added to Gregoire’s total by a partisan canvassing board.
Let’s temporarily adopt that argument for the sake of discussion. In scenario 1, where the GOP lawyers stupidly tell their clients not to submit the fruits of their signature validation campaign because it might undermine their efforts to get the courts to throw out the Democrats’ 900-plus signatures, Rossi would have lost anyway. That is, even if none of the disputed ballots were counted, Gregoire would have gone to Wenatchee up by 8 votes and left Judge Bridges’ courtroom up by 12 votes. In scenario 2, where we assume Republicans have a voting majority on the King County canvassing board and reject a much higher percentage of the disputed ballots (but almost certainly not all of them), and the Rossi campaign submits their roughly 200 signatures, it’s almost certain that Rossi would have emerged the winner. Even if only 25% of the signatures were valid, if Gregoire had been deprived of say three-fourths of the 125 votes she got from the canvassing board, that would have been enough.
It should be noted the 125 is a NET figure — that is, the difference between the disputed votes for Rossi the canvassing board accepted, and the disputed votes for Gregoire the canvassing board accepted.
I need to correct myself @193. Gregoire was up 8 votes after the manual recount, netted 121 from the canvassing board, and got 4 more from Judge Bridges. Equals 133, the final official figure.
Stolen election. Illegitimate governor. The revolution is coming.
Hey America hater liberals, how come Goldstein’s radio broadcasts weren’t stopped by the SS Nazi’s? You crackpot’s kep on blathering about how freedom of speech has been taken away. The fact his show went off if PROOF you are all liars and traitors to boot.
pbj @ 95
“Stolen election. Illegitimate governor. The revolution is coming.”
Yeah…right. I think SORE LOSER is the proper expression at this point.
pbj @ 196
“Hey America hater liberals, how come Goldstein’s radio broadcasts weren’t stopped by the SS Nazi’s? You crackpot’s kep on blathering about how freedom of speech has been taken away. The fact his show went off if PROOF you are all liars and traitors to boot.”
Ummm…pbj…so far, you are the only one to suggest such a thing. Man, pbj, you’d better get some fucking help for that…it looks like dementia with overtones of paranoia!
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