So, I kinda missed last week’s “this week”. So even though it’s still kinda sparse, it’s totally two weeks’ worth.
* By now you’ve probably ceased to want to care, but some time long ago, Roger Stone was making the news being a loon. Saying crazy shit about Spitzer. And also, if you want to attack Spitzer, maybe it’s best not to have the quality you ascribe to him in spades.
* Bi-Partisan bullshit: Former Clinton speech writer Michael Cohen is upset about us mean bloggers. But he does acknowledge our right to hate America, so you can see he’s a serious person.
* In case you’re wondering, the fact that Larry Craig tried to have sex in a bathroom proves that it’s the Democrats who are obsessed with sex. Republicans are only obsessed with sex when they can’t see an electoral downside.
* President Bush came to town this week (Did this blog report on that? I just can’t remember.) and he gave a bullshit speech.
Locally, I can only think of two things that are bullshit:
* Phone books.
* and Pudge.
This is another open thread.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Hmmmm … I wonder which makes Bush more nervous, Seattle or Baghdad?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Anyway, ya gotta give local GOP organizers credit for coming up with 3 or 4 cheerleaders for the commander guy’s appearance. They keep getting harder to find.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Is Your Favorite Troll On _________’s (Fill In Name Of Candidate) Payroll?
“Blogs about politics on radar of state elections officials
“By Alex Fryer
“Seattle Times staff reporter
“The rapid growth of political blogs and Web sites has attracted the attention of state elections officials, who are considering what, if any, new regulations should be imposed on the Internet. …
“As early as this month, the PDC may consider new political communication regulations, with much of the discussion likely to focus on whether to extend federal rules governing the Internet to local races. …
“In 2004, a group of conservative bloggers attacked incumbent Democratic Sen. Tom Daschle in South Dakota, who lost to GOP challenger John Thune. After the election, Thune’s campaign filed disclosure reports with the FEC indicating that his campaign had paid the bloggers.”
Quoted under fair use; for complete article and/or copyright info and/or Stefan’s mug shot see http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....gs03m.html
SeattleJew spews:
Harvey attended the dinner. He says the carrots were way overcooked and people TALKED during Bush’s speech.
Karl Rove was there too, Harvey tell me that Rove either has a pooka of his own or … may even be a deauricled Pooka himself!
This scares Harvey. take away his ears and a Pooka can become very, very mean.
It makes some sense though. I always thought that Rove’s relationship to Elmer Fudd was overstated. OTOH Chaney with a shot gun DOES remind me of Elmer!
Roger Rabbit spews:
“GENEVA — American workers stay longer in the office, at the factory or on the farm than their counterparts in Europe and most other rich nations, and they produce more per person over the year. They also get more done per hour …, according to a new U.N. report that says the United States ‘leads the world in labor productivity.’
” … [I]n the United States, … a manufacturing employee produced … $104,606 of value in 2005. An American farm laborer, meanwhile, created $52,585 worth of output ….”
Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ity03.html
“Hired farmworkers … continue to be one of the most economically disadvantaged groups in the United States. … In 2005, … [m]edian wages for nonsupervisory hired farm labor, at $6.75 per hour, … were among the lowest wages paid for … unskilled occupations. According to the NAWS, 80 percent of all hired farmworkers … lack health insurance. … [N]umerous studies indicate that many farmworkers are susceptible to unfair labor practices … includ[ing] nonpayment of wages, sexual harassment, discriminatory work assignments, and hazardous working conditions such as exposure to toxic pesticides.”
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefi.....mLabor.htm
Roger Rabbit Commentary: How can this be? Farmworkers produce over $50,000 a year of wealth yet they’re paid, on average, $6.75 per hour? Looks like the Owner Class is taking more than their fair share of the fruits from other people’s sweat.
The fishwrapper article linked above also stated,
“Even though worker productivity has increased dramatically in the United States …, the share of national income going to corporate profits has dwarfed the amount going to workers’ paychecks.”
and also pointed out,
“A recent Census Bureau report said that in 2006 … there were more full-time workers per household, suggesting more people were working longer hours to make ends meet.”
Welcome to the Brave New World of Cheap-Labor Republicanism: More income and lower taxes for the Owner Class, more work and less health care for workers.
Why would anyone vote for these people? Maybe they didn’t. Maybe the question we should be asking is, where did all those Republican votes actually come from? Diebold black boxes is the first place I would look.
Roger Rabbit spews:
GOP = Greedy Old Plutarchs
Facts Support My Positions spews:
A room full of sleazebags working Bush for another tax cut. Maybe if they cut veterans benefits some more, he could squeak out a few more billion in tax cuts to the uber rich….. children’s health care….. head start……. bridge inspections…… bullet proof vests…… up armored humvees…….
SeattleJew spews:
It occurs to me that we do not have a list of the attendees. Is that available?
Even w/o beong partisan, it seems to me that it would be appropriate to questiohn the the patriotism of anyone who would pay $1000 to eat chicken and overcooked carrots with the single person to do the most harm to the US since the Civil War,
I am deadly serious about this. Those that know me realize that I am not a true blue Dem. I have and will vote for any party if I think they are doing a better job for my State or Country. However that maybe I question the intelligence or patriotism of anyone who could still support this Presidency.
I have no issue here with those who know lil Bush well enough to want to eat a last supper with him. Giving money to Reichert is also understandable, but showing up to support this President is not all that different from those in the American colonial establishment, e.g. Franklin’s son, who remaned loyal to George III after it was apparent that his government was demented. That George was not evil, nor is his current namesake, but neither was fit to govern.
Tom my Republican friends, PLEASE, in the name of our shared patriotism, lets ALL move on. There have been and are rational and admirable Republican leaders. Now is the time , before you get wopped at the next election or George makes an even larger mistake, to reform.
A good place to start … the Governor campaign. If Rossi is really what the Guzzo connection nsuggests, my choice in the last election was wrong. Even if the GOP loses to a weak candidate like Gregoire, the time has come for the gOP to return to the excellence of Dsn Evans’ era. If Rossi is to be the candidate he needs to gently dump Bush and Guzzo and show the leadership that would differentiate him form the competent but directionles leadership of Ms. Gregoire.
Alternatively, I find it hard to imagine that there is not a Schwarznegger Republican a rational Republican, who could lead our state. John McCay?
WDRussell spews:
It is all about trickleon eCONomics.
If the uber-rich have more money to spend, they can hire more servants.
GOP utopia-The US becomes a land of Princes and peasants.
SeattleJew spews:
Except, it is cheaper to hire furriners as servants. Want to bet who crews the fleet of yachts Mr. Allan owns?
For that matter anyone want to bet what FLAG these boats fly? I do not know about the Allan fleet, but the great majority of megayachts fly foreign colors in part to avoid US taxes.
Another TJ spews:
Chilling:
http://salon.com/opinion/green.....index.html
Roger Rabbit spews:
I posted two comments yesterday that aren’t here. Are they still stuck in the filter, or did Goldy’s software eat them?
Marvin Stamn spews:
“Iowa, for good reason, for constitutional reasons, for reasons related to the Lord should be the first caucus and primary,” Richardson, New Mexico’s governor said at the Northwest Iowa Labor Council Picnic.
Several people in the crowd snickered after Richardson made the comment. “That was a little weird,” said Sioux City resident Joe Shufro. “I don’t know what God had to do with choosing Iowa among other states. I found that a little strange.”
http://desmoinesregister.com/a.....ORTS020402
For constitutional reasons? For reasons related to the lord?
Oh yeah, I remember that bible verse, “on the 5th day I said that iowa will be the first caucus.”
Pretty embarrassing when democrats pander to the religious folks and people laugh at them.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Sant S. Chatwal, an Indian American businessman, has helped raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaigns, even as he battled governments on two continents to escape bankruptcy and millions of dollars in tax liens.
Chatwal’s case reached from his native India to New York City. The IRS pursued him for approximately $4 million in unpaid business taxes, while New York state placed a lien seeking more than $5 million in taxes.
Chatwal recently said he plans to help raise $5 million from Indian Americans for Clinton’s presidential bid.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01436.html
ANOTHER fundraiser scandal already? You would think that even hillary would let the other one blow over first.
Isn’t it refreshing to see hillary at the top of the polls for the democrat nomination. Good job guys. When you talked about changing the culture of corruption I thought you meant more than just the NAME of the thieves.
Marvin Stamn spews:
N.Korea agrees to disable nuclear program in 2007
GENEVA (Reuters) – North Korea agreed in weekend talks with the United States to fully account for and disable its nuclear programs by the end of this year, negotiators said on Sunday.
http://today.reuters.com/news/.....38;sp=true
Wow, clinton & carter got snookered when they tried to bribe north korea to stop their program. Now the bush administration actually did it.
Does anyone remember how much $$ clinton wasted on his failed attempt to end n koreas nuclear program?
Another TJ spews:
Marvin is in good company; he stands shoulder to shoulder with the Great Orange Satan, except Markos wrote more eloquently:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....0583/56503
Marvin Stamn spews:
An independent political group allied with Democrats and heavily bankrolled by billionaire George Soros has agreed to pay $775,000 to the Federal Election commission for violating campaign laws during the 2004 presidential campaign.
The civil penalty, announced Wednesday, is the third largest fine ever levied by the FEC.
The group, America Coming Together, was an influential player in the 2004 election cycle, spending millions of dollars to mobilize voters in support of Democrats in key states.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....ref=slogin
Damn. Every day there’s a fundraising scandal with the democrats. I guess if you can’t compete fairly CHEAT.
Here’s an idea, why not change the name from America Coming Together to America Cheating Together, it would be more accurate.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Blogs about politics on radar of state election officials
The rapid growth of political blogs and Web sites has attracted the attention of state elections officials, who are considering what, if any, new regulations should be imposed on the Internet.
The go-slow approach by the state Public Disclosure Commission (PDC), which collects candidates’ financial information and enforces elections laws, is applauded by most bloggers and campaign experts, though some say policing the Internet is unnecessary and all but impossible.
As early as this month, the PDC may consider new political communication regulations, with much of the discussion likely to focus on whether to extend federal rules governing the Internet to local races.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....cation=rss
Obviously the liberal people on the state PUD is concerned about those evil conservative blogs and their influence on local races.
Stefan Sharkansky, who developed Sound Politics, a local blog with a conservative perspective, participated in a PDC panel discussion Aug. 15 on possible regulations.
Interesting that sound politics got mention, they must be one of the more influential blogs in the area.
In all fairness, they did report that daschle was a democrat.
Marvin Stamn spews:
The ex-newspaper editor [Piers Morgan ], now a columnist for The Mail on Sunday’s Live magazine, took great delight in making fun of President Bush for falling off a Segway – the two-wheeled, motorised, gyroscopically balanced scooter that, its makers promise, will never fall over.
His paper, the Daily Mirror, ran the headline in 2003: “You’d have to be an idiot to fall off, wouldn’t you Mr President.” It added: “If anyone can make a pig’s ear of riding a sophisticated, self-balancing machine like this, Dubya can.” So, it seems, can Mr Morgan.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pag.....ge_id=1770
He makes fun of bush falling off then when he tries he falls off and breaks a few ribs. Karma.
No doubt he blames it on bush derangement syndrome.
Darcy Burnedout: BRAND X,- cheap, crappy and ineffective spews:
CALL DARCY!!!… FINALLY JOB SHE CAN DO!!!!
NEWSFLASH! Steve Fosset is missing after taking off from reno in a small plane. Civil Air Patrol is busy, busy, busy, calling small airports to dee if he landed or made contact.
CALL DARCY!!!… FINALLY JOB SHE CAN DO!!!!
RESUME VALUE BABE! THINK OF THE PRESS YOU’LL GET IF YOU FIND STEVE!
Marvin Stamn spews:
#16 Another TJ says:
Wow, a thread about it on dailykos but not here on horsesass. It’s interesting to see some democrats don’t like the hypocrisy, unlike the regulars here.
Another TJ spews:
Logic’s not your strong suit, is it, Marvin?
Daddy Love spews:
15 MS
So in 1994 Bill Clinton and bill Richardson got North Korea to shut down its plutonium reactor and put it under lock, key, and IAEA inspection in return for food, oil, and the promise of two light water reactors (for Marvin’s sake, I’ll point out that the waste from light water reactors cannot be turned into plutonium or enriched into weapons-grade uranium). North Korea froze its nuclear production for the next eight years. In September 1999, the Clinton administration won a further concession: Pyongyang agreed to a long-range missile moratorium.
Then, in 2002, the Bush administration called North Korea part of the “Axis of Evil.” Eight months later, the administration claims that North Korea told a visiting U.S. delegation it has a uranium enrichment program. But our intelligence verifying this claim was “pretty sketchy,” according to ammscontrol.org:
But in the meantime, North Korea ousted IAEA inspectors and grabbed the plutonium out of the Yongbyon reactor, then started reprocessing said plutonium into weapns-grade material. This is the program that the Clinton amdinistration sucessfully shut down for eight years.
Now the estimates on the number of nuclear weapons that NK can create or has created from its reprocessing efforts range from 4 to 13. What is to happen to this nuclear stockpile remains to be negotiated. I am encouraged that it will not be this administration who does so.
And Bush has now re-negotiated essentially the same deal as Clinton’s 1994 Agreed Framework, except that we’re not giving them reactors, and they have a good-sized stockpile of weapon-ready plutonium. And this isn’t “bribing” them. Riiiiiight.
We could have had this deal from the start if these guys weren’t ideologues and idiots.
Lee spews:
@23
Nice recap DL. No Bush Administration failure really tops Iraq, but how they allowed for North Korea to restart their nuclear program was legendary incompetence in its own right.
Hey Marvin, can you click through the link at comment #11 and read through it? Next time you find some article out there about some potential scandal, like when Hillary’s motorcade didn’t come to a complete stop at a Stop Sign or how Obama once got a technical foul in an intramural basketball game at Harvard, please don’t post it unless it’s as worrisome as having our habeas corpus rights taken away or allowing for any President (Democrat or Republican) spy on us without oversight.
Cheers!
Lee spews:
@21
Wow, a thread about it on dailykos but not here on horsesass. It’s interesting to see some democrats don’t like the hypocrisy, unlike the regulars here.
Marvin,
You’ve said absolutely nothing in this thread at all about Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, and Gary Ridgeway. You must think that what they did was just great!
Lee spews:
@22
Logic’s not your strong suit, is it, Marvin?
There’s the understatement of the year. See the words “Marvin” and “logic” in the same sentence is almost disorienting.
chadt spews:
Speaking of bullshit, does anybody here (idiots excepted) have any more news the Ted Stevens shtick?
chadt spews:
From “Salon” for today
Tuesday September 4, 2007 07:25 EST
Dick Cheney’s top aide: “We’re one bomb away” from our goal
http://www.salon.com/opinion/g.....addington/
Lee spews:
@28
B…b…b..bbbbbut some guy wanted for mail fraud gave money to Hillary!!!
Can’t you see? Republicans and Democrats are the same! :)
chadt spews:
in re:Stevens
Michael Crowley has an interesting overview of The Stevens Creature at “The New Republic”:
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i.....wley091007
Lee spews:
@30
That’s an interesting article. Postman (a former Alaska resident) has written a little bit about the long and odd relationship between Stevens and Gravel.
ArtFart spews:
10 I’ve read, in several places, that the crew of the Octopus includes a contingent of ex-Navy Seals. What with that and the equipment the ship carries (including submersibles), it’s mildly interesting to speculate on exactly what it’s intended for. Is it serving as cover for some sort of black ops, or is Mr. Allen just entertaining some fantasy about a latter-day Calypso or Glomar Explorer?
Daddy Love spews:
29 Lee
I’ve been thinking more along the lines of “some guy who is innocent until proven guilty gave money to Hillary; campaign will likely return contributions, no news at 11…”
Lee spews:
@33
I think I can sense the next dispatch out there:
“At a campaign stop today at an Elks Lodge in Carroll, Iowa, Senator Barack Obama was seeing “double-dipping” a chip. According to several eyewitnesses, the Senator picked up a potato chip, dipped it, took a bite, then he dipped again. A stunned observer noted, “it’s like putting your whole mouth in the dip!” The Obama campaign has not released a statement about the alleged double-dipping.”
Marv’s commentary – and this guy wants to slap tougher restrictions on food coming from China! What a hypocrite!!1!!1!
Another TJ spews:
chadt @ 28,
Ahem (subtly points to comment #11, mumbles something about great minds).
Daddy Love spews:
34
There was no pick! I – I did not pick!
Marvin Stamn spews:
#25 Lee says:
There’s only one of me, I can’t point everything out all at once.
I’ll get to it.
Daddy Love spews:
17 MS
Too bad you left out the most interesting parts. You surely do have a nice, convenient little pile of posts to make each day. One might think it was your profession.
For example, it looks like you may have inadvertantly truncated the following sentence:
“It was the third-largest fine in the commission’s 33-year history but less than 1 percent of the roughly $137 million raised by the group, America Coming Together.“
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08.....onate.html
And somehow this didn’t show up:
“The election commission said in a statement that America Coming Together had improperly spent money raised outside the restrictions on political action committees for get-out-the-vote efforts to benefit specific federal candidates. But the commission concluded that there was no evidence that the group had improperly coordinated its activities with the Democrats or their presidential candidate. America Coming Together said it had done its best to comply with a muddled set of commission rulings in place at the time, noting that commissioners had acknowledged room for confusion.”
You seem like a Swift boat booster to me. Do you think those ol’ boys got a raw deal from the FEC? Explain.
Daddy Love spews:
RE: ACT FEC fine. Here’s the FEC’s story:
http://www.fec.gov/press/press.....9act.shtml
Marvin Stamn spews:
Rock stars more likely to die prematurely
As well as Presley, the toll of those dying before their time included Doors singer Jim Morrison, guitar hero Jimi Hendrix, T Rex star Marc Bolan and Nirvana’s Kurt Cobain
It could also be due to the poor medical outlook for impoverished American ex-pop stars who have no health insurance, he said.
http://www.reuters.com/article.....04?sp=true
Yeah, socialized medicine for the poor rock stars that can’t afford health care like Elvis Presley, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Marc Bolan, Jerry Garcia, Carl Wilson, Johnny Ramone.
I asked Lee the breakdown of the uninsured, he didn’t care. Well, I do. If someone makes millions of dollars and doesn’t have health insurance why should I be concerned.
chadt spews:
@35 ooops. geeeze. It was Marvin’s fault.
Marvin Stamn spews:
They were meant to be an oasis of cleanliness and decency. Five gleaming, cylindrical public restrooms.
On Seattle streets since 2004, each toilet is now used an average 332 times a day, down substantially from previous years, according to records kept by the maintenance company, Northwest Cascade. But with regular use comes misuse. Prostitution and drug-dealing were predicted and, it seems, are taking place in the restrooms.
One much-advertised feature of the restrooms, the self-cleaning floor, was turned off nearly 2 ½ years ago. Dirt tracked in from outside turned into mud, and the most innocent piece of paper in the unit turned to sludge.
The contract price was not reduced, but Kraus said, “It just got to the point where we were just wasting water.”
Dafe Chen, general manager of the New Century Tea Gallery in the Chinatown International District, says he takes his 2-year-old son to play in Hing Hay Park almost every day and frequently sees human waste on the park benches — despite the public toilet just yards away.
A report submitted by the utility to the City Council last fall cited the $360-per-toilet, per-day cost to lease and maintain them, and compared it with the $16 a day it costs to operate a humble port-a-potty.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ts04m.html
Cool, public funded rooms for drugs and prostitution.
This is the difference between taxpayer money ($360 per toilet per day) and what the private sector ($16 per toilet per day) would pay.
City Council President Nick Licata said the toilets are the least the city should provide. Even with the concerns over use and cost, Licata said, “We need to have something.”
No, the least would be $16 a day, even I could figure out $16 is less than $360.
Oh yeah, party affiliation wasn’t listed for nick licata, thus meaning he’s a democrat.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Bainbridge Island police arrested a 17-year-old boy Friday after a search of his computers revealed bomb threats against Bainbridge Island High School.
Police found marijuana and bomb-making materials at the boy’s home following a bomb threat against the school in June, Deputy Chief Mark Duncan said. The boy pleaded guilty to several related charges in juvenile court earlier this year.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....source=rss
Is this the child of the waitress in the stephan (sound politics) tiff?
(If you aren’t aware, the school called the waitress to inform her that her well-behaved and well-mannered son was responsible for a bomb threat)
Puddybud spews:
Darryl – Daddy Love didn’t attribute so I won’t either!
Golly Daddy love:
Now how do you square this Daddy Love?
Marvin Stamn spews:
A Superior Court judge Tuesday approved a multi-million dollar settlement in which Washington’s Department of Social and Health Services (DSHS) must pay a disabled woman who was raped by a state employed nurse.
This is the largest settlement ever paid due to patient abuse or neglect at Eastern State Hospital, near Spokane.
A report written by a state investigator, obtained by KING 5, showed that Johnson had been accused of improper conduct at Eastern State Hospital dating back to 1995, including a prior rape allegation.
Here is an outline of some of the allegations:
* July 1996: Officers arrested Johnston at Eastern for a domestic violence charge.
* February 1997: Supervisors say Johnston raped a schizophrenic patient.
* March 1997: Nurse accused Johnston of sexual harassment.
* June 2003: Co-workers accused Johnston of threatening them.
* June 2004: Johnston raped female patient.
Documents show supervisors knew about these allegations against Johnston and placed him on leave several times. However, Johnston was never formally disciplined. And he was paid his full salary and benefits during those times of leave.
http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/.....c0a57.html
Lovely, a needless victim because government officials failed to do their job in an honest and thoughtful manner.
On the bright side, taxes will be going up soon.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Two veteran Seattle Democrats said they’re leaving their state legislative seats.
Representative Jim McIntire said he’ll be running for state treasurer in 2008, instead of seeking another term in the Legislature.
McIntire is a former House Finance Committee chairman. He is currently chairman of the Economic and Revenue Forecast Council.
Incumbent Democratic Treasurer Mike Murphy is retiring.
Senator Erik Poulsen is leaving his statehouse job at the end of the month to become chief lobbyist for the Washington Public Utilities Districts Association.
Poulsen is chairman of the Senate Water, Energy and Telecommunications Committee
http://www.kirotv.com/politics.....8;psp=news
Nothing wrong this time. How can you tell, they label them democrats.
Lee spews:
@42
Oh yeah, party affiliation wasn’t listed for nick licata, thus meaning he’s a democrat.
Our city council seats are non-partisan.
No, the least would be $16 a day, even I could figure out $16 is less than $360.
You get a gold star, Marvin!!
Actually, the toilet dilemma is a tough one. Using $16 Honey Buckets is not the answer and doing nothing is not the answer. I think the answer is to shorten the amount of time people can spend in there (as of now, the metal doors swing open after 15 minutes – that’s a lot of time).
Lee spews:
@46
Nothing wrong this time. How can you tell, they label them democrats.
How can you also tell? They’re state legislators, who are partisan elected officials.
Lee spews:
@45
That never happens in the private sector? Ever? Really?
Lee spews:
@40
I asked Lee the breakdown of the uninsured, he didn’t care. Well, I do. If someone makes millions of dollars and doesn’t have health insurance why should I be concerned.
Because he’s talking about ex-pop stars who no longer have a lot of money, you buffoon.
Lee spews:
There’s only one of me, I can’t point everything out all at once.
And you’re a complete idiot to boot. Tragic.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Lee says:
I feel sad for the innocent victims that are brutalized by the hands of government employees. Instead of misdirecting blame let’s all take a moment to wish them the best.
Lee spews:
@52
I feel sad for the innocent victims that are brutalized by the hands of government employees. Instead of misdirecting blame let’s all take a moment to wish them the best.
You didn’t answer my question. Are you saying that private sector employees have never committed crimes like that?
Marvin Stamn spews:
Lee says:
This is why I asked for a breakdown. I don’t mind helping someone that for whatever reason wasn’t able to do for themselves, I feel less responsible for those that did well and blew it. If it’s true that the rabbit only made $50k a year, from his words he invested wisely. Maybe the rabbit should start a new and more profitable career helping rock stars.
Lee spews:
@54
This is why I asked for a breakdown. I don’t mind helping someone that for whatever reason wasn’t able to do for themselves, I feel less responsible for those that did well and blew it.
And I don’t. That’s why the breakdown is meaningless. It’s no less tragic when a person’s life is ruined because they could have gotten insurance but didn’t than if they couldn’t afford insurance at all. Not to mention that all of that is meaningless when you consider that many of the people who go bankrupt for health problems actually had insurance.
Marvin Stamn spews:
#53 Lee says:
A government employee raped a mentally fragile patient in a laundry room AFTER a laundry list of other complaints against him.
Then another government employee fails to do the right thing and allows him to victimize another human being.
Please don’t be so callous trying to defend that by asking if it happens in the private sector.
Lee spews:
A government employee raped a mentally fragile patient in a laundry room AFTER a laundry list of other complaints against him.
Then another government employee fails to do the right thing and allows him to victimize another human being.
Please don’t be so callous trying to defend that by asking if it happens in the private sector.
I’m not defending it. I’m just saying that things like that are just as likely to happen in the private sector as the public sector. That seems to be a fact that you’re not dealing with very well. Is there something you need to tell me? Do you need to change your diaper first?
Lee spews:
@56
Here’s one example:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08.....38;ei=5070
Want me to find more?
Marvin Stamn spews:
#57 Lee says:
The difference being one is funded by taxpayer dollar. Where is the oversight. Where is the responsibility. Why didn’t his boss do anything to save further innocent people from being victimized?
As far as your link @ny times (#58), I didn’t see any mention that his supervisors overlooked his pattern of abuse and let him continue to abuse people. Big difference between someone being a degenerate and another government employee covering his ass.
Now let’s compare who’s going to pay for the crime. In your link, the criminal. In my link, innocent taxpayers.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Adrian wanted to sail the ocean blue-
Global Warming is Here
A British yachtsman, Adrian Flanagan, is due shortly to head off from Chukotka to attempt the first solo sail through the Northern Sea Route.
While one Chukotka port official described this as “kamikaze,” Flanagan too is optimistic. Contacted by AFP he said that the ice looked set to recede at least as far as in 2005, which was a record year. But while some see opportunities, others are already counting the costs of climate change.
http://mnweekly.ru/news/20070816/55267943.html
Only to find out global warming hadn’t melted all the ice yet-
Adrian Flanagan is discussing with Russian authorities the possibility of using a nuclear-powered icebreaker to lift his boat out of the water and carry it round the most icebound stretch of Russia’s Northern Sea Route.
He had hoped that his 11m reinforced yacht would be able to get all the way to Europe due to lighter ice conditions observed in recent years, thought to be a result of global warming.
http://www.news.com.au/heralds.....61,00.html
And then rumors of polar bears becoming extinct proved to be, well…
It’s a resting place for walrus and Western Arctic Marine Operations HQ have advised Adrian to keep a careful watch for polar bears hunting walrus there.
http://www.cowes.co.uk/zonexml.....ry_id=3228
Hopefully he brought along a copy of inconvenient truth to keep himself occupied while sitting in ice.
Puddybud spews:
Daddy Love: One more for you about North Korea:
Madeline Albright told Tim Russert in 2004 that Il Kim and his gang, “What they were doing, as it turns out, they were cheating.”
Really? Cheating from 1994 to 2002. Wow! She admitted it.
Waaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa
Are you the new Factless?
Bill Clinton spews:
Nyah nyah nyah nyah… I can sodomize a young intern in the Oval Office and I can sodomize with impugnity because I am a LIBERAL!
Barney Frank spews:
Nyah nyah nyah nyah… I can run a boy prostiture ring out of my basement and pimp with impugnity because I am a LIBERAL!
Gerry Studds spews:
Nyah nyah nyah nyah… I can fuck with minor-aged with subordinates and I can kid-fuck with impugnity because I am a LIBERAL!
Ted Kennedy spews:
Nyah nyah nyah nyah… I can be drunk leave young women I fucked to die horrible drowning deaths and I can drink and drown with impugnity because I am a LIBERAL!
William Jefferson spews:
Nyah nyah nyah nyah… I can be a cheat and a thief and I can be corrupt with impugnity because I am a LIBERAL.
chadt spews:
I’m gonna love watching you assholes after President Clinton takes office, losers.
Dumbshits…
Lee spews:
@67
Amen. Sounds like someone needs a nap, eh Marvy?
Lee spews:
Now let’s compare who’s going to pay for the crime. In your link, the criminal. In my link, innocent taxpayers.
Oh, please. For that to make any sense at all, you’d have to ignore all the things that taxpayer dollars go to that actually benefit people – you know, the hundreds of thousands of public health facility staff members who are good people helping others. Or do they conveniently not exist in your world?
Marvin, give it up. You’re a pathetic joke.
Lee spews:
@60
You’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel, aren’t you?
Marvin Stamn spews:
Lee says:
Check the ip addresses, or are you afraid of me proving you wrong again??
Lee spews:
Check the ip addresses, or are you afraid of me proving you wrong again??
Actually, I spoke with Darryl tonight. He told me some very interesting things about your IP address. Highlight reel #3 could be VERY interesting…
Lee spews:
Marvy, get a good night’s sleep tonight! You’ve got another long hard day at the office tomorrow getting your ass handed to you by me in the short breaks that I have at my real job!
chadt spews:
Well, Lee, you have MY curiosity whetted….
Broadway Joe spews:
I love the smell of imploding trolls in the morning. It smells like…..victory.
tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick
chadt spews:
The sound of imploding trolls is like the sound of imploding assholes, but (usually) an octave higher. The exception is Puddy: His blather is atonal, but he frequently implodes across several octaves, with the occasional diminished seventh thrown in. THAT is music to my ears.
chadt spews:
You will note that I refrained from commenting in the SMELL of imploding trolls…..
Marvin Stamn spews:
#72 Lee says:
Why wait. I’m sure your legion of fans are very interested.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Clinton Promises to Save Social Security
“This is the most successful domestic program in the history of the United States,” Clinton said to applause from seniors gathered in Washington to push their policy agenda. “When I’m president, privatization is off the table because it’s not the answer to anything.”
http://www.chron.com/disp/stor.....07253.html
Ouch! The most successful program in US history? Anyone can tell me how much of your money is saved and set aside for you?
At least true to her socialist roots she said privatization is never the answer to anything.
Lee spews:
@79
Ouch! The most successful program in US history? Anyone can tell me how much of your money is saved and set aside for you?
Enough. That’s all that matters, and that’s why when Bush tried to get rid of it, he ran into a brick wall.
Lee spews:
@79
At least true to her socialist roots she said privatization is never the answer to anything.
I obviously don’t agree that privatization is never the answer, but thanks to Bush’s extraordinarily overeager desire to privatize everything, we will probably swing back hard towards a populist/socialist approach to things in the next 20 years.
Marvin Stamn spews:
The curious largesse of Norman Hsu
Hsu’s case raises so many disturbing questions that it is difficult to know where best to begin. But let’s start with this: Where was the U.S. Department of Justice for the past 15 years? Hsu’s plea was to California charges, but pleading no contest to charges of running a Ponzi scheme designed to defraud investors of $1 million and then disappearing overseas surely merited federal attention. Did California authorities fail to inform the feds? Or did the feds just look the other way? Somebody in California and Washington needs to step forward to answer these questions.
Considering the many contact points between the 1996 Clinton re-election campaign and Chinese-connected donors like Johnny Chang, federal officials should get some credible answers about Hsu’s activities during those years before he landed in Manhattan rubbing elbows with the bright lights of Democratic politics.
http://www.examiner.com/a-9168.....n_Hsu.html
Once again, government employees failed to do their job. I wonder how many criminal hang with high ranking democrats?
Marvin Stamn spews:
#80 Lee says:
Are you implying that the SS money you have paid in is set aside and waiting for you? Kinda like in a “lockbox” or something?
Marvin Stamn spews:
Is Clinton’s candidacy blocking ‘Path to 9/11?’
Among the nearly two dozen television DVDs slated for nationwide release on Sept. 11 is the second season of “Bones,” the third season of “Grey’s Anatomy” and the miniseries “The Starter Wife” that aired earlier this year. Not on the list on that day or any other in the near future is last year’s highly controversial “The Path to 9/11.”
With no date for the release, questions are being raised about whether political pressure is behind its current status as a stalled or discarded DVD project. The reasons are murky, but the miniseries’ writer, Cyrus Nowrasteh, believes it’s crystal clear: Powerful forces are out to protect Bill Clinton’s presidential legacy and shield Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) from any potential collateral damage in her bid for the White House.
“This is a shame; it’s censorship in the most blatant way,” said Stone, who has hired Nowrasteh for several writing projects. “I’m not vouching for its accuracy — it’s a dramatization — but it’s an important work and needs to be seen.”
http://www.latimes.com/enterta.....ertainment
Ouch, even the la times is figuring it out finally. Censorship and ‘protect clinton’ are words often associated with the clinton clan.
Any of you hillary supporters want to try and spin this?
Marvin Stamn spews:
New Orleans mayor may run for governor
Mayor Ray Nagin could be days away from announcing he will run for governor of Louisiana
The sign-up period for the Oct. 20 election ballot opened Tuesday and runs through Thursday, with Republican Rep. Bobby Jindal — the front-runner in all the recent polls — the first one to get into the race to succeed Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, who decided not to seek re-election after she was widely criticized as weak and indecisive following Katrina. Democratic state Sen. Walter Boasso of hard-hit St. Bernard Parish is also runnning.
But Nagin takes a different view: “My legacy will probably be one of honesty and integrity and bringing that to government in a meaningful way. I’m sure my legacy will also be this guy said things pretty straight and wasn’t your typical politician.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200....._ray_nagin
He was re-elected after his dismal performance in katrina, no reason to think the sheeple won’t line up behind him again.
Lee spews:
@82
Once again, government employees failed to do their job. I wonder how many criminal hang with high ranking democrats?
Not as many as hang out with high ranking Republicans. Or are you still not aware of all the people within the Romney and Giuliani campaigns who’ve had run-ins with the law? How many high-ranking people in any of the top Democratic contender campaigns have been arrested recently?
Lee spews:
@83
Are you implying that the SS money you have paid in is set aside and waiting for you? Kinda like in a “lockbox” or something?
Social security is fiscally sound for several more decades. Even after that, all it would take are fairly minor changes to ensure that it continues to work for even longer. Feel free to request links to all the data, I’ll be happy to provide them!
Another TJ spews:
Lee @ 86,
Don’t forget Bob Allen, formerly the McCain campaign Florida co-chair:
http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2007.....ryone.html
Lee spews:
@84
Ouch, even the la times is figuring it out finally. Censorship and ‘protect clinton’ are words often associated with the clinton clan.
Any of you hillary supporters want to try and spin this?
The LA Times? You mean the newspaper that gives Jonah Goldberg a bi-weekly column? And Max Boot?
The reason that they’re not releasing “Path to 9-11” is because it was blatantly inaccurate, and anyone who tries to put it out on DVD has to be very careful about how they present it, or they could be sued for slander. The original version that was aired on ABC had to cut for that reason. If the DVD contains those extra scenes, it could be a legal issue.
Is there any bullshit right-wing spin that you won’t fall for, Marvin?
Marvin Stamn spews:
A top Democratic fundraiser whose criminal past has roiled the campaigns of top presidential candidates failed to appear Wednesday for a bail hearing and a judge issued a new warrant for his arrest.
Norman Hsu, who had been a fugitive for more than 15 years, forfeits the $2 million bail he posted last week. His attorney said Wednesday he didn’t know where his client was.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....e=politics
No surprise here. The clinton machine after profiting so well would let his spend time in jail.
After being so well known for being a “hillraiser” on the lamb, how did he get on a plane for hong kong? How else, inept government employees.
Lee spews:
@88
And Thomas Ravenel and Mel Sembler and the guy on Romney’s campaign who got arrested trying to impersonate a police officer. We could go on, and on, and on…
Lee spews:
@85
He was re-elected after his dismal performance in katrina, no reason to think the sheeple won’t line up behind him again.
And this matters to people on this board, how?
I thought you said you were filling a void. Did you mean to file this on a New Orleans blog, or are you just still a retard?
Lee spews:
@90
No surprise here. The clinton machine after profiting so well would let his spend time in jail.
Hey, try that one again in English!!
After being so well known for being a “hillraiser” on the lamb, how did he get on a plane for hong kong? How else, inept government employees.
Ah, yes!! Because when the airlines ran security, NO ONE ever escaped from law enforcement!! Hahahahaha!! Man, Marvin, you are one entertaining motherfucker!
Another TJ spews:
And Thomas Ravenel and Mel Sembler and the guy on Romney’s campaign who got arrested trying to impersonate a police officer. We could go on, and on, and on…
Oh, yeah. There’s quite the que of conservative crooks from which to choose, but, you really should click on the link. TBogg is the best.
Lee spews:
@94
Oh, that’s awesome! If I understand how all this fits together then, if the Clintons are guilty of a criminal trying to give them money, then the cop in the Bob Allen case who was offered $20 for a blow job is also guilty! Wow, Bob Allen needs to get Marvin Stamn to be his attorney ASAP!
Another TJ spews:
TBogg is definitely worth your time:
http://tbogg.blogspot.com/
Lee spews:
@96
One of the funniest bloggers out there.
Chad's Basset spews:
And, he lives with a Basset. He loves pets!!!
Unlike Marvy, who IS a pet…of the RNC.
chadt spews:
Cleo is very discerning, Marvy
She doesn’t think you live in LA
She thinks you’re from Mars.
Some of us think you’re further out than that, but your entertainment value is amazing. But keep us laughing, ’cause if you get boring, we’ll stop paying attention to you, and then you’ll self-destruct. A common cause of troll mortality.
Marvin Stamn spews:
#89 Lee says:
Oh, like the Fifty-Nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 911 got moore sued for slander?
Well, if it wasn’t for sandy berger accidently stuffing documents into his pants, taking them outside and hiding them under a trailer, and then later destroying them, we would probably have a much better idea exactly what should be in the movie.
President Clinton’s national security adviser removed classified documents from the National Archives, hid them under a construction trailer and later tried to find the trash collector to retrieve them, the agency’s internal watchdog said Wednesday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16304450/
The FACT he hid them under a trailer indicates he knew what he was doing was wrong (as if sneaking them out in his pants didn’t), and now we are supposed to believe all the documents are accounted for?
From the same article, notice the word SOME-
Also, the employees had made copies of some documents.
Marvin Stamn spews:
From Meet The Press last sunday
MR. SHRUM: Hsu’s given money to lots of other candidates. The biggest story, by the way, in terms of the primaries, is the Democrats agreeing now not to campaign, all of them, in Michigan and Florida if they go ahead in Iowa. That actually, in a perverse way, if the states stick to the calendar, could, for example, help Senator Clinton. If no one campaigns and she wins Florida, wins the primary in Florida, wins the primary in Michigan, that could have a knockout effect in Iowa, could change things.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20562794/page/7/
In a segment about hsu, it sounds like he would rather talk about primaries. Yup, the democrats are running scared from this. Another clinton chinese $$ scandal won’t look good.
Lee spews:
Oh, like the Fifty-Nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 911 got moore sued for slander?
No, they didn’t. Because they weren’t inaccurate, you fool. There are a number of opinions in Farhenheit 911 that I disagreed with (especially his assertions about why we initially went into Afghanistan), but Moore did not slander anyone or present falsehoods as facts. Nowrasteh did that. He flat-out lied about particular events to the extent that a disclaimer had to be added to the film when it aired. Comparing Farhenheit 911 to Path to 911 is not an even comparison. Path to 911 mixed fact and fiction together to an extent that Farhenheit 911 did not.
Well, if it wasn’t for sandy berger accidently stuffing documents into his pants, taking them outside and hiding them under a trailer, and then later destroying them, we would probably have a much better idea exactly what should be in the movie.
If Nowrasteh had only speculated as to what those documents contained, he would’ve been fine. Unfortunately, he included things in his film that were demonstrably false.
Lee spews:
@101
In a segment about hsu, it sounds like he would rather talk about primaries. Yup, the democrats are running scared from this. Another clinton chinese $$ scandal won’t look good.
Keep telling yourself that, Marvin. If this is the worst scandal the Clintons have to face, this is going to be a cakewalk.
When you find some evidence that the Clintons knew that Hsu was a fugitive or if they hired him, then maybe you’ve got something. Otherwise, we adults are going to go back to paying attention to the things that matter while you can stand there with your dick in your hand.
chadt spews:
@103
You’re CAUGHT IN AN INACCURACY, Lee!!!
He has no dick.
That’s his keyboard, it’s as close as he can come.
Well, you know what I mean…..
Lee spews:
@104
Silly me. I’ll be more careful next time. :)
What’s actually funny is that, as Marvin continues to insist that I’m some left-wing Kool-Aid drinker, my post on Plan Mexico has actually been linked favorably from several center-right blogs in the past few days.
chadt spews:
Lee 105
Very cool; that issue needs bipartisan and sane attention.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Your words not mine. Unless of course you can find a link with me saying it.
Marvin Stamn spews:
Thanks Lee.
Lee spews:
@107
Your words not mine. Unless of course you can find a link with me saying it.
You’ve most certainly accused the writers of this blog of being blindly partisan. In fact, you’ve even stated that as your reason for being here, to “show us the light” of centrist thinking. There are several problems with that however:
1 – We already have several people who lean to the right (Libertarian, wutitiz, Right Stuff) who already come here and present the right-wing perspective considerably better than you do
2 – You believe in an inordinate amount of bullshit for someone who thinks he can challenge the views of those whose political leanings are countervalent. I mean, the media bias arguments you make don’t even pass the laugh test. And your notions about the difference between public and private sectors are so embarrassing, it makes me realize why you’re afraid to use your real name here.