Snidely worded as it was, I actually thought professional initiative monger Tim Eyman might take me up on my offer to have him on the first hour of this Sunday’s inaugural show. Apparently not.
And in typical Tim fashion, rather than just simply declining, he had to try to spin it into some kind of media game, demanding that he’d only come on if he could have all three hours — a demand he knew I would not (and as it turns out, could not) accept. And then he goes and forwards our email thread to the Seattle Times’ David Postman… as if that’s going to achieve anything other than drive more traffic to my blog.
For his part, Postman makes a salient point that perhaps it was a little hypocritical of me to advise the press to ignore Tim, and then go and invite him onto my show. Yeah, I guess. At the very least it’s probably bad strategy. I’m not approaching my radio show any differently than I approach my blogging — I’m an unabashed, partisan liberal with an unabashed, partisan liberal agenda — but I suppose I need to give some thought as to how my first, tentative steps into the cold waters of the mainstream might change my role in the media.
Anyway, I generally view the publishing of private emails as a violation of net etiquette, but since Tim is already forwarding our email thread to journalists, I suppose that gives me his tacit permission to go public.
From: David Goldstein
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:49 AM
To: Tim Eyman
Subject: RE: 710-KIRO, Sunday at 7PM?It wasn’t intended to be a game of poker, Tim. As snidely worded as my offer was, it was genuine; that’s why I followed up with the phone call. I’d say it was you who bluffed… except it was so transparent an effort to save face, it’s not really worthy of being called a bluff.
Besides, I couldn’t give you all three hours if I wanted to. (And I don’t.) When I forwarded your demand to KIRO management, the immediate response was “definitely do not let him do more than an hour.”
So it’s your choice. If you want to come on the show, we’ll be talking about you in the first hour. You know the number; call in and I’ll put you on the air.
Whatever. Postman was right; I probably shouldn’t have made you the offer in the first place. If we all ignore you, maybe you’ll go away.
—–Original Message—–
From: “Tim Eyman”
To: David Goldstein
Date: Saturday – June 10, 2006 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: 710-KIRO, Sunday at 7PM?In this hand of political poker, you bluffed, I went all in, and you, afraid of an extended debate with me on the issues, decided to fold.
Gutless coward.
Regards, Tim Eyman
—–Original Message—–
From: David Goldstein
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:49 AM
To: Tim Eyman
Subject: RE: 710-KIRO, Sunday at 7PM?Save your breath Tim, that shit doesn’t work with me. You want 3 hours of air-time, go get your own show. My offer stands: 1 hour at 7pm. And if you don’t show, it’s you who will be hiding under a rock, while I’m on the air.
Probably a good decision on your part, though. If you had just ignored me three years ago when the “horse’s ass” story broke, the media would have quickly lost interest. Instead, by engaging me directly the way you did, you built me up. Um… thanks.
Oh… and if you think a large audience and the news media would listen in just to hear the two of us debate, you’ve got a more inflated ego than I thought.
Ah well, it’s up to you. Let me know if you change your mind.
David
—–Original Message—–
From: “Tim Eyman”
To: David Goldstein
Date: Friday – June 9, 2006 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: 710-KIRO, Sunday at 7PM?It’s clear you are afraid … deathly afraid of an extended debate with me with a large audience, including the news media, who will listen and report the results. Instead, you’ve chosen to crawl underneath a rock to hide from me after I accepted your pathetic challenge. Gutless coward.
3 hours with callers; my offer still stands. If you muster some courage, let me know.
Regards, Tim Eyman
—–Original Message—–
From: David Goldstein
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:23 PM
To: Tim Eyman
Subject: RE: 710-KIRO, Sunday at 7PM?No Tim, I’m afraid I’d bore my audience and lose my new job. Truth is you’re not all that interesting. That’s why I have a show and you don’t.
Whatever. If you want to pass up a chance to plug your car tabs initiative that’s up to you. If you change your mind, let me know.
David
—–Original Message—–
From: “Tim Eyman”
To: David Goldstein
Date: Friday – June 9, 2006 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: 710-KIRO, Sunday at 7PM?Why? Are you afraid that you can’t handle an extended debate on the issues? Afraid that you’ll look foolish? Yeah, that’s it, isn’t it?
Let me know if you change your mind, coward.
Regards, Tim Eyman
—–Original Message—–
From: David Goldstein [mailto:dgold@entercom.com]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:23 PM
To: insignia@greekwatch.com
Subject: RE: 710-KIRO, Sunday at 7PM?Funny, Tim. I doubt the audience can take three hours of me, let alone three hours of the two of us.
I can promise you a full hour if you like, from 7 to 8. You know I can’t do anymore than that. That would be the best hour for you too, as we’ll still have Frank Shiers audience listening.
Let me know.
David
—–Original Message—–
From: “Tim Eyman”
To: David Goldstein
Date: Friday – June 9, 2006 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: 710-KIRO, Sunday at 7PM?Yes, but only if we go the full 3 hours. That way, there will time for lots of callers to call-in.
Let me know if that works for you.
Regards, Tim Eyman
—–Original Message—–
From: David Goldstein
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:48 AM
To: Tim Eyman
Subject: 710-KIRO, Sunday at 7PM?Tim,
In case you haven’t heard, 710-KIRO has just hired me as the new host on Sunday nights from 7 to 10 PM, and considering how closely intertwined our careers have been these past few years — yours in decline, mine in ascendence — I thought it would be only fitting if you would honor me as my first guest, this Sunday at 7 PM.
Now I know you might have some reservations about appearing on the air with a host who made his name by calling you names, but this is radio, and you are, after all, a media whore. Just this past Monday you told the angry throng of reporters you duplicitously drew to the Secretary of State’s office that “there’s no such thing as bad press.” So why not join me on my inaugural show and see how far we can push that maxim?
Again, please remember that this is radio Tim, radio — tens of thousands of people hearing you talk — so if there really is no such thing as bad press, what do you have to lose? And besides, we’re going to talk about you anyway, so why not be there to defend yourself?
Please let me know if you can join me Sunday night. I look forward to continuing our close working relationship.
Sincerely,
David Goldstein
710-KIRO
We’ll be talking about Tim and the shenanigans surrounding his failure to qualify R-65 for the ballot. Tim knows the number; if he calls in I’ll put him on the air.
Geez Goldy it looks like you’ll only get another “unabashed, partisan liberal with an unabashed, partisan liberal agenda” as a guest. Seems like you should follow the example of Kirby and Carlson the way they treated you and “reach out” in a more professional manner if you truly want any diversity of opinion on your show.
Sounds like Tim called your bluff cheesedick
How old is Eyman? Nine?
Well, he’s still wearing Star Wars costumes, complete with plastic codpiece…
“We’ll be talking about Tim and the shenanigans surrounding his failure to qualify R-65 for the ballot”
Yawn, come on Goldy this is your first show! Nobody reads yesterday’s paper or wants to hear three hours of partisan BS about yesterdays news.
Let me see if I understand correctly.
Goldy has a resource (air time during which he can invite the guests of his choosing).
Goldy offers Eyman one hour, at a particular time, on a particular date.
Eyman declines that offer unless it is made three times bigger than Goldy’s original offer.
Eyman is a fucking idiot! He didn’t accept Goldy’s offer. He instead wanted an entirely different package—one that Goldy wasn’t offering.
Roger Retard @ 2…you live up to your name. How in the fuck did Eyman call Goldy’s bluff?
This calls for a parable:
Donor to homeless person: I would like to assist you by donating $100 directly to you.
Homeless person to donor: I’ll only take your offer if it is $300—in small bills.
Donor to homeless person: Sorry, I am only interested in giving you $100. See? This $100 bill here.
Homeless person to donor: HA! I’ve called your bluff. You never intended to give me any help at all!
Donor to homeless person: No, no, you misunderstand. I have a $100 dollar bill here that I would like to give you.
Homeless person to donor: Again…I have called your bluff! You didn’t give me $300! And, since when is a $100 bill considered a “small bill?” Don’t you even have the courage to make good on your offer?
Donor to homeless person: But my offer was to give you this $100 bill! That is what I have to offer. It was my own discretionary offer to you…I mean I am going to be helping somebody who is homeless with this $100 bill. It might as well be you.
Homeless person to donor: Ha! See! That isn’t $300, IN SMALL BILLS. You were bluffing all along…
(Etc)
zip @ 4 said “Nobody … wants to hear three hours of partisan BS about yesterdays news.”
What the fuck???? What part of “if you want to come on the show, we’ll be talking about you in the first hour” don’t you understand?
Well we knew Timmy was a liar. Now we know he is a coward. Anyone surprised?
If you would have given Timmy Lieman his three hours he would have only found another excuse to avoid calling the show. He’s like every republican I know. A liar, thief, coward and punk!
Just pointing out that “talking about Tim and the shenanigans surrounding his failure to qualify R-65 for the ballot” sounds like a pretty boring show. As for your other comments, Goldy obviously needs Tim on the show more than Tim needs to be on the show so your analogy is N.A.
I’ll be listening for you to call in and defend Goldy after every dissenting caller. Keep up the good work.
zip @ 9
“Just pointing out that “talking about Tim and the shenanigans surrounding his failure to qualify R-65 for the ballot” sounds like a pretty boring show.
Fair enough…of course there is still “current” Eyman-related stuff to talk about (i.e. the latest car tab initiative) and the future (if any) of the Eyman initiative-mill.
“As for your other comments, Goldy obviously needs Tim on the show more than Tim needs to be on the show so your analogy is N.A.”
Hardly…Eyman still has an active initiative for which he needs signatures. Goldy has his radio spot. Given the very short notice (<2 hours) that Goldy had before he filled-in last week during this same time slot, he put together an impressive inaugural on-air performance. (Impressive enough to, essentially, get hired “on the spot”, anyway.)
“I’ll be listening for you to call in and defend Goldy after every dissenting caller. Keep up the good work.”
Cool…I will probably not call in, but will be listening along with you.
Dj,you blind devotion and or big boy crush on our bloated Golgy has stalled even the basic comprehension skills of a 4 year old. Goldy challenged Tim to a debate. Tim responded that he would accept the offer under his conditions. Goldy waddled away in disgrace and is now trying to save face as the msm picked up on what a punk goldy is.
As for Tims darth vader costume, as weird as it was, atleast he could pull it off. Whereas Golgy, donning a costume would be limited to dressing up as jabba the hut or more appropriately fat bastard.
Way to go, Goldy. The Retarded Right is STILL STAMPING THEIR FEET AND CURSING WITH RAGE at your good fortune in obtaining a bully-pulpit. Their time is coming to an end. The thing about adolescent immaturity is that eventually the vast majority of us grow out of it. Not so, it seems, the wingnut Right.
That shithead neofuck calling himself “zip” said he’d listen to your show if I call in. Don’t know if I’ll get a chance to do that, as Mrs. Rabbit gets off work and comes home before 7 PM, and there’s a limit to how long I can tie up the phone line waiting on hold, so here’s a transcript of what I would say.
ROGER RABBIT: Hello, Goldy, this is Roger from Green Lake. It’s great that you have your own show now. Congratulations! However, I disagree with you on whether the initiative process is a good thing for the citizens of our state. Washington has a long history and tradition of direct democracy. The initiative was born of the Grange movement a century ago, when farmers were tired of having their pockets picked by railroad barons, and wanted government regulation of railroads. It has, generally speaking, served our citizens well. It adds another check to the checks and balances of government. In effect, it creates a fourth branch of government — the citizens — who collectively hold a veto power over what the politicians do to them. They haven’t always used it wisely, or perfectly, but over the last hundred years citizen initiatives have done far more good than bad, and have prevented or cured some abuses of power. Eyman is a cancer on the initiative process. A wise doctor tries to kill the cancer and save the patient, not kill the patient to get rid of the cancer. If the voters deprive the cancer of nutrition in the form of victories at the polls, he’ll eventually starve, shrivel, and become dormant or simply go away. Spare the patient, starve the cancer, that ought to be our game plan.
There ya go, zip, I called in and was on the show. Now it’s your turn. You promised to listen to the whole show, and now you gotta do it, or you’re gonna be a welsher like Redneck is.
Hahaha I cant belive Tim forwarded that to the media. Doesn’t he sound a bit silly? 3 hours or else NOTHING! You coward! LOL.
Umm didn’t you invite him? Didn’t you explain your reason?
He’s not even good at twisting the truth.
Hi Goldy, this is Roger in Green Lake again! I want to talk about Eyman’s car tab initiative. The car tab was an abusive tax, and somebody did our citizens a service by getting rid of it. Trouble is, that “somebody” isn’t Tim Eyman, whose car tab initiative was struck down by the courts. It was Governor Gary Locke who asked the legislature to repeal the car tab tax, and they did it because he asked them to, even though it inflicted havoc on county and municipal budgets from which local governments still haven’t recovered. The car tab tax was unfair in many ways, but nobody abused it more than the owners of the countless cars I saw in affluent, upper middle-class, Republican neighborhoods with Oregon plates. The state finally cracked down on these shameless tax cheaters by setting up an “800” phone line for honest citizens who paid this hated tax to rat on their scofflaw neighbors, and so many of them did, that the Oregon plates all but disappeared from Seattle neighborhoods within a year or two.
There ya go, zip — I’ve already been on the show twice, and it isn’t even Sunday evening yet. Now you have to listen to the whole show.
If you don’t, you’re a welsher like Redneck.
Roger,
I plan to listen regardless of what you do. I agree with the point of your make believe call, but somehow doubt you would be lucid if a “neofuck” happened to call in beofre you.
@5 Goldy has a resource (air time during which he can invite the guests of his choosing).
Goldy offers Eyman one hour, at a particular time, on a particular date.
That’s pretty funny, considering that Eyman gets much more airtime that Goldy, despite the fact that he doesn’t have his own show. And many more listeners too.
@19 Au Contraire RR is almost always lucid , perhaps abusive, but almost always lucid.
Funny I looked everywhere and I noticed that Steffy does NOT have a radio show? Must mean that liberals are more popular. HE HE!
I have an idea, let’s all post over at USP and ask Steffy when her radio show is on! HE HE HE HA HA HO HO HO!
Retard @ 11
“Goldy challenged Tim to a debate. Tim responded that he would accept the offer under his conditions. Goldy waddled away in disgrace and is now trying to save face as the msm picked up on what a punk goldy is.”
No, Retard, you misunderstand. Goldy DID NOT challenge Eyman to a debate. Goldy, as host of a talk radio program, offered Eyman the opportunity to be a guest on his show for one hour, from 7-8 pm this Sunday.
Eyman declined this offer. The “counter-offer” by Eyman is irrelevant (as is the “counter-offer” of $300 in the parable in post 5 above).
Put another way: remember when Goldy was offered the opportunity to be a guest on the Dori Show a couple of months ago? Suppose Goldy had posted something like this:
See how silly that sounds. It is a direct analogy to Eyman’s goofy response. If Goldy had done the above, I would join assholes like you in mocking Goldy for such a response to Dori’s offer. (Note for the low IQ wingnuts around here…the above quote of Goldy is fiction; it didn’t really happen.)
“As for Tims darth vader costume, as weird as it was, atleast he could pull it off. Whereas Golgy, donning a costume would be limited to dressing up as jabba the hut or more appropriately fat bastard.”
…ahhh, yes. You are living up to your name again, Retard.
Michael @ 20
“That’s pretty funny, considering that Eyman gets much more airtime that Goldy, despite the fact that he doesn’t have his own show. And many more listeners too.”
Yes…of course Eyman gets (or, used to get) more airtime than Goldy’s show. But, that is because talk radio show hosts (like…you know…Goldy) invite Eyman on to be guests on their shows.
Of coure, this is also a function of the fact that Goldy has only hosted one hour of a show, so far.
But, I think we can agree with one other thing here, as well…Goldy has his own talk radio show and Eyman doesn’t.
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Why shouldn’t I abuse those unpatriotic, America-hating, fascist fucks? After all, they abuse themselves whenever they need to get their rocks off. They probably abuse each other, too, whenever two of them get together at the glory hole in the second stall of the men’s john at Green Lake Park.
Our department will pay $75 to whoever kills that damned rabbit.
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Fuck you, pissant fascist! If you have any balls, you’ll collect the bounty yourself. Meet me in the park at the entrance to my burrow after dark. Bring a gun, so I can claim self-defense.
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Tell me, zip, if depositions are good enough for the courts, why can’t I appear by deposition on KIRO?
BOMBS DIDN’T KILL ZARQAWI; U.S. SOLDIERS BEAT HIM TO DEATH
U.S. officials have already changed their story about finding Zarqawi DOA at the bombed “safe house” — they now say he lived “for a short time” after U.S. troops arrived — but now an Iraqi witness has come forward to say he saw a man resembling Zarqawi being clubbed by U.S. soldiers at the scene of Zarqawi’s death, according to a report in the New York Times. http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin.....ref=slogin
If this is true, an atrocity was committed, by that’s a technicality even us liberals will overlook in Zarqawi’s case. Having been on battlefields myself, I can attest to the confusion that often surrounds combat, and in this case I think we should attribute Zarqawi’s demise to “the fog of war.”
However, if the report is true, the idiots that did it could have served their country better if they had stopped to think that maybe this guy would have produced useful information if they had just done their job, taken him prisoner, and leave it to the CIA to beat the shit out of him in Poland or some such place.
I’m amused by the fact wingfucks think our government has authority to torture POWs but doesn’t have authority to tax its citizens in order to pay the torturers’ salaries.
In other news, three Gitmo detainees tired of being tortured committed suicide today. Anyway, U.S. authorities are calling it “suicide.” I’m not sure how they died. Maybe they shot themselves several times in the back of the head with a smuggled revolver, like some terrorists in European jails did back in the 80’s.
Wow. No wonder this guy buddied up to Monte Benham. I met the latter at my barber shop one day and geeminy christmas, what a boor. I see why they got along.
Believe it or not, commie libs, I’m with Goldyteinberg on this. It’s his show……One hour with a guest is reasonable. Maybe Goldy with invite MTR Kennedy or JCH Kennedy on in the future!!!
Hand to hand combat isn’t an atrocity, that’s why they issue bayonets!
OFFTOPIC: there was a concern expressed about the suitability of 5.56 mm rounds being adopted for combat. The ‘cure’ for ‘hand-to-hand’ situations had always been ‘street-sweeping’ or ‘brush-cutting’ weapons like the infamous semi-automatic 12 gauge shotgun ‘trench-clearing tool’ used by USMC personell during WWI. (The Germans actually demanded this be outlawed.) Today, in Iraq they are test deploying a weapon, designated the AA12 which will be fully automatic, with magazines of both five, and 20 rounds (circular config like the tommygun). They are also experimenting with deploying exploding ordinance this way in addition to ‘slugs’ as a ready means to stop vehicles out to 200 meters.
Hey Goldy here are some topics related to Timmy Liemannnnn
1) Since initiatives are primarily a republican ploy to subvert the will of the people who elected their Legislature, let’s do away with them. Since we control the entire State government, who gives a fuck if the righties like it or not. Let em whine.
2) If we are going to keep them, let’s institute a rule that says failed initiatives like Timmy’s cost $100,000 and require a $100,000 bond be posted along with the signatures to make sure the people don’t get stuck with the tax bill.
3) While were at it, maybe you can hammer home the fact that the righties are always claiming to worry about government spending, yet they seem happy to CAUSE government spending in this rediculous referendum process.
4) Remind listeners that we elect our Legislature to do this job and if people aren’t happy with the job those elected officials are doing they can vote them out. Unless they can vote them out shut the fuck up about it and quit wasting my tax dollars on your failed referendums.
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Peawit Herman — I’ll arrange for Goldy to invite you, if you (in the interest of saving the planet) agree to walk from your home to the studio.
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Gimme a break, mac, you know damn well you’re not allowed to club a wounded, prostrate, unresisting, unarmed adversary. But, as I said, there’s always that “fog of war” factor, isn’t there?
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I want one! Where can I get it? Butch’s Gun Shop is just across the street, does he sell them?
I will agree with Goldy on this one. I think one hour is reasonable. I don’t think hardly anyone gets invited on a talk radio show for more than an hour as a guest.
2) If we are going to keep them, let’s institute a rule that says failed initiatives like Timmy’s cost $100,000 and require a $100,000 bond be posted along with the signatures to make sure the people don’t get stuck with the tax bill.
Commentby LauraBushKilledAGuy— 6/10/06@ 2:53 pm
Maybe initiatives and referenda should at least have a FILING FEE or DEPOSIT. Maybe about $1,500 — roughly what it costs to run for Governor or Senator.
Tim Eyman filed 34 SEPARATE INITIATIVES AND REFERENDA for the 2006 general election. 9 initiatives to the legislature, 4 referenda, and 21 initiatives to the people. Maybe one or two or them will get enough signatures for the ballot. Often Eyman files multiple versions of the same thing, so that he can get the ballot number (i.e. I-776, I-900, etc.) that he likes.
Perhaps the filing fee should be a deposit, and refundable if a certain number of signatures are submitted. Maybe just a fraction of what would be required to qualify — say maybe 2,000 or so.
Right now, the filing fee is just $5.00. It requires a lot of public resources when one of these things is filed. The Attorney General has to prepare a ballot title. The Thurston County Superior Court often has to decide the ballot title — without any court filing fees being required. There is a lot of administrative work also.
Require a $1,500 deposit, which will be refunded if the filer shows that they printed out the petitions and got at least a few thousand signatures. This will get rid of Eyman’s ability to spend — let’s say $170 — and file 34 or 50 or 200 versions of the same initiative or referendum.
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We may want to keep the initiative for a while yet, given this state’s minority party wants to reinstate the policies of the 1890’s. You know —
No minimum wage
No worker protections
No injured worker compensation
No unemployment insurance
Organized labor will be an illegal conspiracy
No antitrust laws
No consumer protection
Tort immunity for everybody
Life sentences for stealing bread
No regulation of utilities, railroads, or insurance companies
Sell off all public lands
Mining patents supersede all other laws and regulations
K-12 public schools will be 100% tuition-funded
Poll taxes will be reinstated to keep undesirables from voting
I like Tim eyman.
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How about a $1,500 filing fee for port commissioners, so failed lawyers can’t get free advertising in the voters pamphlet at taxpayer expense by running for offices they have no intention of getting elected to.
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Who gives a rap.
das, my department will pay you $75 to kill that damned rabbit.
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Do the job yourself, fucking coward! I’ll see you at the entrance to my burrow after dark! Bring a gun.
46.
As opposed to David Goldstein who might have a slight, yes, a slight obesession with Tim Eyman. As in Tim OOooogaBoooga!! Eyman.
I have no problem with Eyman. His initiatives hardly ever pass, and when they do are always thrown out by the courts because the dumbass still hasn’t learned how to write an initiative, so he’s essentially harmless. If Michael Dunmire wants to pay Eyman a salary to keep him in the initiative business, that’s fine with me, and good for people who buy watches. No telling what kind of watch you would get from this creep — probably the overpriced, defective kind.
Eyman’s biological origins are unknown as he was an adopted child, according to Wikipedia. However, one can make an educated guess about who his mother was, as the crack damage to his brain is manifestly evident.
Goldy,
I appreciate it that even though you don’t like Bush or the war in Iraq you were big enough to write that very moving post congradulating Bush on killing zarqawi. Everyone knows that you “support the troops” and that was a very eloquent way to do it. I have prited it and put it up on my wall. I would hate to have seen you go silent and thus hint that you are small souled, incapable of rejoicing in the vanquishing of great evil.
RR@40 I’d be more concerned if Prick Cheney were to get one.
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I think we should send him one as a present; there’ll be fewer Republicans voting in Texas after his next hunting trip. Might be enough to tip a swing district our way.
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How long did you guys keep Zarqawi in a freezer before deciding you couldn’t afford to let Bush’s polls drop any lower?
He’s in remarkably good shape for somebody hit by two 500-lb. bombs.
This is what somebody hit by a 500-lb. bomb usually looks like. http://www.nukeworker.com/pict.....fullsize=1
It’s been only two days, and the Bushliars’ tale of how they got him is already coming apart. These guys lie about every fucking thing! They have a pathological compulsion to lie just for lying’s sake.
How about a $1,500 filing fee for port commissioners, so failed lawyers can’t get free advertising in the voters pamphlet at taxpayer expense by running for offices they have no intention of getting elected to.
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/10/06@ 3:13 pm
That would be more than the filing fee for King County Prosecuting Attorney. Filing fees are set at 1% of the annual salary for the office. Port of Seattle Commission only pays $500 per month, so the filing fee is just $60.
Even when they do something good, they lie about it.
This is what somebody hit by a 500-lb. bomb usually looks like. http://www.nukeworker.com/pict.....fullsize=1
Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/10/06@ 3:49 pm
Maybe a 500,000,000-lb. bomb.
Which makes me wonder who actually got Zarqawi? This smells a bit like a fisherman who brags up a big catch he forgot to remove the fish market label from.
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There’s no such thing.
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I stand corrected — I was thinking tons. 500,000,000 lbs. would be, let’s see, divided by 2,000 lbs., would be 250 kilotons. Yep, there’s plenty of those.
How long did you guys keep Zarqawi in a freezer before deciding you couldn’t afford to let Bush’s polls drop any lower? -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/10/06@ 3:36 pm
1. Bush’s numbers were already rising, albeit somewhat infinitesimally.
2. Why, on God’s green earth, would he waste (revealing the death of) a prefectly good terrorist at the BEGINNING of the summer, the political malaise season, when his corpse would have been far more valuable politically in September?
Nice try though, for a rodent conspiracist.
OK, so that’s what an Iranian nuclear scientist will look like after Bush drops a “bunker buster” on him. Close enough for government work.
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Good crater pictures aren’t all that easy to find, you know.
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Anybody stupid enough to invade Iraq with one-fourth of the troops the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs says is needed, probably is also stupid enough to mess up the timing of an October surprise.
Maybe they’ve got OBL in the frig and they’re saving him for the last week of October.
Yessirree, Zarqawi was the opening act… “Osama bin … Osama … Obama… Obama Osama” (to quote teddy the sot) is on ice and ready to be served… with a splash of vermouth and an olive!
das @ 52
“I appreciate it that even though you don’t like Bush or the war in Iraq you were big enough to write that very moving post congradulating Bush on killing zarqawi. Everyone knows that you “support the troops” and that was a very eloquent way to do it. I have prited it and put it up on my wall. I would hate to have seen you go silent and thus hint that you are small souled, incapable of rejoicing in the vanquishing of great evil.”
Dude…satire really doesn’t suit you. I mean, you need an IQ something over 63 to do it well.
Oh…and this is Goldy’s blog. Goldy writes what he wants to write about on (what????) his own “web log”. This isn’t a goddamn news service, you fucking simpleton! If you want to read about stuff that Goldy isn’t writing about, haul your stupid ass over to Technorati or Google blogs and let you fingers do the walking.
Cripes…some of you wingnuts are so fucking stooooopid, it’s almost precious!
My guess is the Bush regime just hired a photoshop expert to make some guy look like a dead Zarqawi. He’s probably sitting with Osama right now in the Bush family parlor getting a big laugh out of it all.
ah yes, the goldstein hurray chorus and apologetic ass is in defense mode – good job dj, maybe now that he’s gainfully employed, your hero will pay you for wearing his brown so well on your nose.
My guess is the Bush regime just hired a photoshop expert to make some guy look like a dead Zarqawi. He’s probably sitting with Osama right now in the Bush family parlor getting a big laugh out of it all. -Commentby LeftTurn— 6/10/06@ 4:24 pm
Uh huh… do you channel Rod Serling too or just Dana Scully?
ProudASS @ 73
“job dj”
Thank you ASS. Even though you are usually an asshole, it is nice to see you rise to the level of a kind human once in awhile.
“maybe now that he’s gainfully employed, your hero will pay you”
Naaa…I’ll still buy Goldy beers for all the entertaining and intelligent writing he offers.
“for wearing his brown so well on your nose.”
Dudess, Goldy graduated from Penn, not Brown. But, yes, we have a lot of fun wearing his school colors on our noses at Drinking Liberally.
What. Is that to crazy for you? I guess you have to be there.
BREAKING NEWS.
It has been confirmed that Zarqawi is dead. The former Al Qaeda leader was was seen filling out a voter registration card. The registered democrat had no comment on his recent death.
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“Obama Osama”
You’re a sick bastard, and racist too.
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Shut up. You’re dead. Dead people can’t talk.
How about a debate between Eynstein and Goldman instead?
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And learn how to spell, you fucking retard. Another wingnut terrorist who can’t spell his own fucking name …
Somebody oughta crater these wingnut retards.
Rabbit, my department will pay you $75 to kill yourself.
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Hey, you fascist fuck, for $75 you could take your wife out to a nice restaurant. Why don’t you show up at my burrow after dark, and bring a gun.
I support every one of Tim’s iniatives.
I collect signatures.
I vote for them in every case.
I send money to support the campaigns.
I send money to compensate Tim.
Tim gives The People a voice to have a say in the big issues that confront us that the politicians either can’t or won’t address. He has saved The People BILLIONS of dollars. He has put Olympia on notice that they can’t just squander our money and get away with it.
Washington is a better place because of Tim Eyman and I support him.
Can’t they think of anything better to call it than the David Goldstein show? How about Horse’s Ass Radio? And when are they going to post his picture?
http://www.kiro710.com/showdj.asp?DJID=31745
From a newspaper clipping:
“Yoram Kaufman, 57, a leading NASA scientist whose research has led to greater understanding of global warming, died May 31 in Cheverly, MDd., from injuries suffered in a bicycle-auto accident.”
Roger Rabbit editorial comment: Karl Rove was driving the getaway car.
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“I support every one of Tim’s iniatives. I collect signatures. I vote for them in every case. I send money to support the campaigns. I send money to compensate Tim.” Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 6/10/06@ 5:16 pm
I don’t doubt it — you’re the type — except for your last two statements. Anybody who would make a $100 bet, then refuse to pay after he loses the bet, would also lie about sending Timmy money for his campaigns or salary.
Hey Mark the Dumbfuck, can you explain why wingnuts think a government that has authority to spy on its citizens doesn’t have the power to tax its citizens? That’s a mystery to me.
Mark, there’s somebody I’d like you to meet. Be at my burrow at 9 p.m., and bring a gun …
I’m OK with reasonable taxation to support core gummint functions. I have two complaints:
1) The notion of “progressive” taxation where the lower half gets a free ride and The Producers are punished.
2) Wealth transfers so that The Bad Choice crowd is insulated from the consequences of their lifetime of bad choices. RR is an example of this. So are single mothers.
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DJ – you still need to visit the Wizard – Goldie was blowing hot air in his initial offer to Eyman and only adding to Global Warming. Get a brain!
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Care to privide a citation?
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Your leftist version of reality only impresses those who have straw for a brain! You should stat citing facts to be believable!
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Your version of reality is very limited
DJ,
I wish you wouldn’t make fun of my leftist politics; I, like Goldy, believe in the infallibility of government; we give our all to government and laugh at the wingnuts’ illusions of selfish personal freedom. Government is immutable, immortal, rapturous, dazzling, radiant, triumphant, resplendent, impurpled, celestial, melodiously full of the concord of glorious hearts bound and united to sacrifice everything for it. Just look at the way government handles our children’s education: could we ask for anything better?
Join with us, DJ, as we crush and annihilate the last embers of bourgeois personal freedom and remake man as a selfless being, caring only for the welfare of his lesser brethren. We live at the very gates of this wonderous empowering government paradise; resist not its allure and golden splendor; cease to resist the luminous embrace of omnipotent government; give it your all for government is all.
Das – To be a librul you have to believe that freedom comes from government and that oppression comes from corporations. Seems to be terminal…
Rabbit 89 – You may have seen some of your relatives on the receiving end of JHPs @ 2000 fps. What happens?
“Obama Osama”
You’re a sick bastard, and racist too. -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/10/06@ 5:07 pm
You might want to drop Ted Kennedy a note – he’s the moron who said it.
@87 You should listen to your buddy DJ @ 24.
The “counter-offer” by [Goldy] is irrelevant
MTR made an offer, Goldy make a counter-offer. There was no bet.
I’d love to see someone make such demands upon Rush or Medved — from an opposing viewpoint.
Amazing.
“Obama Osama”…..Only a dumb ass Kennedy could say this and get not a peep from the dumb ass liberal Democrats.
Michael @ 99
“The “counter-offer” by [Goldy] is irrelevant
MTR made an offer, Goldy make a counter-offer. There was no bet.”
Don’t be a duplicitous asshole. You aren’t really that stupid, are you?
Goldy accepted MTR’s bet. He offered a change in conditions after accepting the bet. MTR didn’t accpet the changes.
MTR even admitted he had a legit bet. And he admitted he lost. He is just an fucking thief who will not make good on his bet.
das @ 95
Sorry, chump. The satire still does not work for you. You just come off looking like an asshole…
Sillyguy @ 91
“Goldie was blowing hot air in his initial offer to Eyman….”
Meaning, what. You believe that Goldy would not make good on his offer to have Eyman on for an hour if Eyman accepted?
I mean…you know…even after posting the offer on his blog for several thousand people to see?
Gawd…you are one stupid motherfucker!
LeftTurn @ 8 said
“If you would have given Timmy Lieman his three hours he would have only found another excuse to avoid calling the show. He’s like every republican I know. A liar, thief, coward and punk!”
to which SillyGuy @ 93 replied
“Your leftist version of reality only impresses those who have straw for a brain! You should stat citing facts to be believable!”
Ok, sillyguy. You want facts, here are facts. Tim Eyman is a thief and (admitted) liar. From the PI:
In fact, the PDC found that Eyman violated multiple parts of the State law (pdf).
“Coward and punk” are, perhaps, too subjective to decide with factual evidence; but at least we can establish factually that he is a thief and a liar!
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Old news.. in fact year old news..what else is new?
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Goldie posts do a dishonour to himself, Eyman, and future guests. Go visit the Wizard!
You want facts, here are facts. Tim Eyman is a thief and (admitted) liar. From the PI:
Oh. You were going good there until you mentioned “PI”. You lied.
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I know the feeling RUFUS, I know the feeling.
SillyGuy @ 106
Hey…you asked for the facts, dipshit!
Looks like Bush – Eyman’s hero – was quite pleased Michael Brown was taking the heat instead of him.
Just like Eyman, who will never take responsibility for anything – Bush was much more interested in preserving himself than anything else. So much for “values.”
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI.....index.html
“For his part, Postman makes a salient point that perhaps it was a little hypocritical of me to advise the press to ignore Tim, and then go and invite him onto my show. Yeah, I guess. At the very least it’s probably bad strategy.”
Yes, it was. So why keep at it? Eyman is like the bratty kid who does crap for attention. Like you said, ignore him and he’ll go away.
Oh wait, sorry. We’re not allowed to criticize you on the comment thread, according to Officer DJ, although it does raise the question on the whole purpose of a COMMENT thread.
RUFUS @ 108,
“Oh. You were going good there until you mentioned “PI”. You lied.”
I know that reading is one of those things you’ve never really mastered, dull boy, but most of what I quoted were words right out of Eyman’s Mouth.
You remember Eyman’s famous “biggest lie of my life” speech, don’t you RUFUS?
WTLH @ 112
“Oh wait, sorry. We’re not allowed to criticize you on the comment thread, according to Officer DJ, although it does raise the question on the whole purpose of a COMMENT thread.”
What the fuck are you babbling about? You can criticize Goldy all you want, asshole. Or anyone else for that matter. Just be prepared for some return fire when you start saying stupid shit.
SillyGuy @ 107
“Goldie posts do a dishonour to himself, Eyman, and future guests. Go visit the Wizard!”
Look, dipshit, if you don’t understand or appreciate Goldy’s humor, go the fuck away! There are 44 million blogs out there…really…44 million. Hell, go start your own blog.
Most of us read this blog because we do appreciate Goldy’s sharp wit and biting humor.
Geez…I am constantly amazed that so many wingnut “Goldy Haters” keep coming back over and over and over again. It is like they have some deep seated need to repeatedly punish themselves or something. Are ya’all a bunch of fucking sadist, or what?
“Look, dipshit, if you don’t understand or appreciate Goldy’s humor, go the fuck away! There are 44 million blogs out there…really…44 million. Hell, go start your own blog.”
That’s what I’m babbling about, thread cop. Who are you to tell anyone not to post, idiot.
WTLH @ 116
“That’s what I’m babbling about, thread cop. Who are you to tell anyone not to post, idiot.”
I’ve NEVER ordered someone to not post—I have no such authority. My comment wasn’t an “order.” That was a helpful suggestion! :-)
Seriously…your post also has overtones about what I should or shouldn’t say. Am I going to stop or change my posts because you say so? I don’t thinnnnk sooooo!
By the way, WTLH, do you know that you are a Fox affiliate in Tallahassee?
“Am I going to stop or change my posts because you say so? I don’t thinnnnk sooooo!”
I certainly wouldn’t think so. Just don’t be surprised when others don’t follow your advice. :)
Isn’t it amazing? You start to see how someone could be stupid enough to vote GOP. The inbred moron asks for proof, someone cites proof and the inbred moron claims it’s old news. Does that make it any less true? The Earth was discovered to be round not flat hundreds of years ago. Old news. So I guess in the mind of an inbred moron republican the world is now flat.
By the way, Timmy is a coward and I intend to call Goldy and tell Timmy he’s a coward on the air. It will be fun!
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These donks lie so much that when they actually do tell the truth they have to rub it in you face. Yeah, yeah. Tell it to Dan Rather.
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And to tell the truth they have to quote a repub. Geeeesh
Speaking of the lying MSM did you ever get a copy of John Kerry’s military medical records from the Boston Globe yet DJ? They should have a copy right?
RUFUS @ 119
“These donks lie so much that when they actually do tell the truth they have to rub it in you face.”
WTF????? A Wingnut getting all haughty about “truth”???
Wahhhh, haaa, haa, ha, ha. Ohhhh, ho, ho, ho, he, he, he.
Woo, hoo, haaa, haa, ha, ha, oh, ho, ho, ha, he.
RUFUS…you do have a sense of humor afterall!
RUFUS @ 122
“Speaking of the lying MSM did you ever get a copy of John Kerry’s military medical records from the Boston Globe yet DJ?”
Nope…I never asked.
“They should have a copy right?”
Well…ummm…you were the one who was citing some of the information they published from them….
Good News for [JCH]:
No matter how you slice the demographic data, rates of nonmarital births and cohabitation do not increase as a result of the passage of laws that give same-sex partners the right to registered partnership.
http://www.slate.com/id/2100884/
Although it does show that the GOP and religious right have been lying “again”…., Can you use again when something has never stopped?
It looks like Rufas’ mom got into trouble again.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13235923/from/RS.5/
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“Yessirree, Zarqawi was the opening act… ” Commentby howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS— 6/10/06@ 4:12 pm
Lessee … 9/11 was 4 years, 8 months, and 30 days ago … and you’re just getting started? What took you so fucking long?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....mas10.html
Man the terrorists sure have been mowed down this week. The lefties haven’t gotten over Al Zarqawi yet. Poor poor commies.
Yessirree, you right-wing fucks should be reeeaaaal proud of your Mission Fucking Accomplished …
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“I’m OK with reasonable taxation to support core gummint functions.” Commentby Mark The Redneck Kennedy— 6/10/06@ 5:28 pm
Is that so. Reasonable taxation is collecting an amount equal to what government spends, so there’s no inflation tax. Yeah, that’s right, there’s no free ride — whatever Bush and Congress spend, either you pay for it on your 1040 form, or you pay for it at the checkout stand in the grocery store.
So Mark … have you written to your congressman to complain about Bush’s deficits? If not, why not? How is the current level of taxation “reasonable,” when it falls nearly three-quarters of a trillion dollars short of spending? Whose taxes should we raise?
I went to the grocery store tonight and paid Bush’s Inflation Tax again. A gallon of bleach that used to cost 99 cents is now 3/4 of a gallon of bleach that costs $1.29 … that’s, um, a 74 percent price increase. Went to the lumber yard, too. A pound of nails that used to cost $1.49 now costs $1.98 … that’s, um, a 33 percent price increase. When gummint puts more money in circulation, there’s more dollars chasing the same goods and services, so the price of everything goes up.
Inflation is not an act of God, or a natural phenomenon, or a random happening. It is a man-made occurrence caused by politicians spending more money than they collect in taxes. The difference is very directly translated into inflation. That’s why I call it an Inflation Tax.
Whatever government spends, we’re gonna pay for it, one way or another.
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Oh, this is gooood …
LeftTurn said @8 that Eyman is a “liar, thief, coward and punk!”
To which sillyguy replied @93, “You should stat citing facts to be believable!”
So dj, @105, cited a news article quoting Eyman as admitting he had told “the biggest lie of my life” and had redirected campaign contributions to his personal bank account (in violation of state law) …
To which sillyguy replied @106, “old news..what else is new?”
Ummm … sillyguy … in case you didn’t notice, you just got the facts you asked for shoved up your ass.
And then @108 & 109, another pair of wingidiots attempt to slap a bandaid on sillyguy’s sore bleeding ass by lamely blowing off the news story.
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer hasn’t survived for 139 years in the newspaper business by lying to its readers. I don’t know exactly how many Pulitzer Prizes the P-I has won, but I do know they don’t give those out for printing lies or inaccurate reports. Nor do I know exactly how many reporters the P-I has, or how many millions of dollars are spent every year on its news operations, but it’s safe to say their fact-gathering activities are more substantial than you two assholes.
Hate to break it to you fucks, but Eyman did what the P-I reported he did, and said what the P-I quoted him as saying. That’s just an ugly fact of life that I’m rubbing your faces in: Your initiative hero is a liar and a thief. He’s also a failure. What the hell has he ever passed? Most of his initiatives never make it onto the ballot or fail at the polls, and most of the handful the voters passed have been thrown out by the courts because he’s too fucking stupid to write an initiative properly.
This week, Eyman was reduced to dressing up in a ridiculous costume in a vain effort to distract attention from his most massive failure of all. He not only couldn’t get his anti-gay initiative on the ballot, he had so embarrassingly few signature he wouldn’t let anyone see them. I’ll bet he had only about 2,000 signatures, if that. That’s why he wore the Darth Vader costume — he desperately hoped people would look at the costume and not notice the absence of signatures. He wouldn’t even show his fucking face. Hell, he probably sent a stand-in to the SOS’s office with his empty petition box, because he didn’t have the guts to go there himself.
Eyman is a loooooooooooooooooooser.
sillyguy is a loooooooooooooooooooooser.
Dufus is a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooser.
Kevin Carns is a looooooooooooooooooooooooooser.
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“What the fuck are you babbling about? You can criticize Goldy all you want, asshole. Or anyone else for that matter. Just be prepared for some return fire when you start saying stupid shit.” Commentby dj— 6/10/06@ 8:10 pm
Hmmmm … their body armor is a bit thin?
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Nobody said you wingidiots can’t post. Nobody censors your posts. We welcome your posts. We all enjoy it when you publicly make fools of yourselves. Please keep posting. Please continue mispelling big words like “to” and your own names! Please keep regurgitated wingnut lies without bothering to check whether they’ve been debunked. Please continue making shit up, so it’s obvious to everybody that you’re liars. Please, please, please do not go away — because we enjoy picking on you. Whatever we do to you unpatriotic, America-hating, neo-Nazi, dipshits — you’ve got it coming!
120, 121
Dufus, you are truly precious. Precious. Not precocious, just precious.
Roger, You know those higher prices could be because of a little gas tax hike and while we’re at it – the outrageous price of gasoline in Washington State. Why is it that gas here is so much higher than the rest of the country.
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Sounds like she broke into the Evidence Room. I want some of whatever she was smoking! :D
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“Man the terrorists sure have been mowed down this week.” Commentby RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy— 6/10/06@ 11:55 pm
Things aren’t as rosy as you think, Dufus. You’re still at large.
@39
Are you saying they clubbed him after they bombed him…… naaaahhhhh! I don’t believe that, what’s the point?
There’s no damn fun in that.
He deserved the most extreme, exacting, and prolonged torture that any human being has ever been subjected to, more so than Bin Laden.
And it should have been televised, but then we don’t do torture, do we?
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“Roger, You know those higher prices could be because of a little gas tax hike and while we’re at it – the outrageous price of gasoline in Washington State. Why is it that gas here is so much higher than the rest of the country.” Commentby sgmmac— 6/11/06@ 12:42 am
Well golly gee, Mac, if I were an oil producer I’d want more of those devalued dollars for a barrel of my oil. Let’s say I was selling my oil for $30 a barrel when $1 was worth $1. But the good ol’ USA has been printing money to pay for war, corruption, tax cuts for rich people, and a bunch of other stuff, so now $1 is worth only 75 cents, and to get the same purchasing power for my barrel of oil, I now have to charge $40 for it. Ya think?!!
However, I agree there is some structural inflation in the economy because of rising real energy costs. We’ve gone through most of the cheap oil, and we’re now digging down to the expensive oil, but there isn’t even enough of that stuff, so the limited supply is resulting in some market-driven increases in energy prices, too. It’s complicated, but trust me, a VERY substantial component of the inflation we’re now seeing is monetary inflation caused by Bush’s deficits.
In answer to your question about why gas prices are higher in Washington, all gasoline markets are local, and pump prices rise until supply and demand are in balance. Local supplies depend on such factors as crude supplies, transportation, refining capacity, the capacity of the distribution system, and so on. Most of our gasoline comes from Alaskan oil refined at Puget Sound refineries, whose capacity can’t be readily enlarged. It comes by pipeline from the North Slope to Valdez, and then by ship to the Puget Sound refineries, and neither the pipeline capacity nor the tankage of the ships can be enlarged. Our area is experiencing rapid population growth and zero growth in refining and distribution capacity. So there’s pressure on our supply, and the oil companies boost prices until demand falls to the level of the available supply.
You may be interested to know that most places in eastern Washington are about 20 cents cheaper than Seattle. I don’t know why, but I would guess that demand is less dynamic there, and they have a better relationship between supply and demand than we do. They might have different sources, too. For all I know, they’re getting their gasoline, or at least part of it, from the refineries in Billings.
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“Are you saying they clubbed him after they bombed him…… naaaahhhhh! I don’t believe that, what’s the point?” Commentby sgmmac— 6/11/06@ 12:49 am
I’m not saying that. The New York Times reports that an Iraqi eyewitness is saying that. It’s an uncontestable fact that the U.S. military has already changed its story about Zarqawi’s death once, so we know the official military version doesn’t necessarily get it right. We also know, from long experience in many wars, that we can count on the U.S. military to cover up its embarrassing failures and mistakes. The point is that if Zarqawi was clubbed to death, (a) the bombs missed him, (b) our forces had an opportunity to capture him alive, and (c) if that’s the case, they blew a major intelligence opportunity by killing him, and also, (d) his killing was illegal. You cannot murder prisoners, and you know that damn well, Mac.
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I might add that the photos of Zarqawi’s body tend to corroborate the eyewitness. Clearly, this guy was not blown to bits by the 500-lb. bombs. Whatever killed him, he most definitely was not ripped limb from limb by blast or shrapnel.
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Finally, Mac, I don’t give a damn what you or any other wingnut chooses to believe or disbelieve. Republicans, as a species, have made it amply clear they believe (and mouth) whatever justifies their political positions and ideological beliefs without regard for its truth or falsity. Wingnuts make a point of glorifying ignorance and dissing journalists, scientists, and anyone else qualified to report facts. To rational people, it is utterly mystifying why people like you continue to defend a politician who is so patently an habitual liar, and so pathetically incompetent, as Bush is.
Yes, I know, you can’t kill prisoners. I disagree that he would have any intelligence value alive. I don’t believe that he would ever talk, Bin Laden either.
In a perfect world, they would suffer endless tortures. I love the idea that he was alive and recognized American soldiers and tried to move away from them. That tells me that the murdurous bastard’s last thoughts were that he was dying by Americans.
The NY times doesn’t have the credibility that they once had. Too many bogus stories and fake reporters. For all we know the Iraqi eye witness could have been one of his deputies!
The truth will come out – eventually!
Roger,
I really like the truth, but it damn hard to find it these days. The world is so full of political hatred and bias, it is difficult to tell who is telling the truth.
Do I believe the global warming sky is falling crap? Not really, not any more than I believed a ice age was bearing down on us. And ultimately, it doesn’t matter whether I believe it or not. What will be – will be. There’s nothing you or I can do to change it.
The damn weatherman can’t even tell me for sure if it will rain tomorrow, how do they know the world is warming? What happens when all the magna leaves the earth’s core through volcano vents? New ice age? What happens when all the ozone protecting us is gone? We burn the hell up!
Kyoto isn’t the answer. What countries are doing the most polluting?
Goldy: I agree with the one hour For Mr. Mukilteo. The other two hours should be about your lazy fat ass not running for the school board and the specific outcome that occurred. Your daughter’s school being closed. Now that wold make great librul radio!
Goldy,
You should have accepted Tim’s offer, but instead of one on one it should’ve been six other flaming liberals on Tim–just the way Fox News does it.
Timmy would be gone in 5 minutes, revealing him for the coward he is. The seven of you could fill the remaining time, I’m sure.
I agree with Proud. You should have accepted his offer and then he would have bailed out anyway and his cowardice exposed. What a punk.
Good God, if an hour isn’t enough for Eyman to get his point across, three would start to be like this blog pushed through an audio translator.
Eyman’s a wimp.
sgmmac @145
“I disagree that he would have any intelligence value alive. I don’t believe that he would ever talk, Bin Laden either.”
If detainees don’t talk under torture, there’s absolutely no justification for torture, is there?
“The NY times doesn’t have the credibility that they once had. Too many bogus stories and fake reporters. For all we know the Iraqi eye witness could have been one of his deputies!”
Commentby sgmmac— 6/11/06@ 1:19 am
Let’s see … wingers attack the NY Times’ credibility, then point to attacks on the paper’s credibility as evidence that it’s not a credible source of news information!!!
Mac, the NYT is a HUGE newspaper. I’m sure you must have seen a copy of one of their editions on a newsstand at least once in your life. They print a massive amount of reportage every day. Their news staff numbers in the hundreds. The paper has been around for 155 years, and is considered by experts whose knowledge qualifies them to render an informed opinion to be America’s — if not the world’s — “newspaper of record” (i.e., a definitive source).
Has the NYT been mistake-free for 155 years? Of course not! But your argument, in effect, is like saying that if a few inaccuracies (or an outright hoax or two) get past the editors and make their way into the Encyclopedia Brittanica, the whole encyclopedia is suspect.
What you are saying, Mac, is that phony journalist Jason Blair’s scamming of the NYT (and its readers) is enough to cause you to give more credibility to White House spokesmen, right-wing bloggers, and other partisan sources with a track record of systematic lying than to one of the world’s most respected and consistently dependable professional news organizations. That’s WINGNUTTY BULLSHIT in capital letters, Mac. A statement like that establishes you as an unabashed partisan who doesn’t care about the truth. It turns your statement in #146 below into hollow, empty words.
I’m sorry to have to be so harsh on you, Mac, but you hung yourself with your own shoelaces.
@148 instead of one on one it should’ve been six other flaming liberals on Tim … Timmy would be gone in 5 minutes, revealing him for the coward he is.
You have a strange definition of coward…
Roger,
You can bash me all you want, the truth is rarely fully reported in any newspaper. The NY Times used to be the gold standard for all journalism. They lost it, and they didn’t lose it by one reporter, they lost it by their leadership decisions. I’ve read tons of hateful things about the Times right here and what they let happen with a certain female reporter and the war in Iraq stories……. when you allow partisan hacks, (either side) to only present one side of the facts, constantly, you lose readership and your credibility.
Why do you think blogs are becoming so popular, both right and left? People are tired of reading glossed over stories that cover up the rest of the story.
There is a lot of chaos and anger in America and it’s getting worse……..
Oh… and if you think a large audience and the news media would listen in just to hear the two of us debate, you’ve got a more inflated ego than I thought. – Clownstein
No if you didn’t think that having Tim on would bring a large audience, then why the hell would you do it. If nothing else clownstein, you are a self promoting, self aggrandizing snake oil salesman. Of course you thought it owuld bring in a large audience. Trying to deny it now only reinforces that notion.
Are we supposed to beleive you thought having Tim on would reduce your audience? Or that you’d pass up on audience enhancing topics and guest just to put Tim on? C’mon Clownstein. I know your loyal following is slow, but at least SOME of them will see through this lie. Sooner or later eating so much of your shit day in and day out, some of it gets stuck in their teeth.
Eyeman is a hot topic. You wanted him but you blinked. The alternative is to have us beleive you opted for an audience reducing topic and how would such an ambitious self promoter such as yourself possibly explain that KIRO management?
The radio business is ALL about numbers and money. No audience, no advertisers, no money.
You thought you’d taunt Tim into giving you just what you wanted and you got burned.
@5,
You have faulty logic. Is KIRO a charity or does it survive on audience numbers and money? Last I heard it was NOT a charity. So an analogy of one giving money to a homless man is faulty.
What it comes down to is that in order to survive, Clownstein needs to draw in more that just the traitorcrat cabal that slavishly mimics his ever thought on his blog. In otherwords, the 5 of you that make all the four letter worded posts aren’t going to convince Arbitron that his show is successful.
Clownstein wants to draw in listeners from the opposing viewpoint. Without Tim, that ain’t gonna happen.
Clownstein was so full og himself he overreached. He thought a cub reporter was an Edward R Murrow. Maybe one day, but right now he is just a foul mouthed Pee Wee Herman esque wannabe. And he just blew his shot at a hot guest.
Eyman doesn’t need Clownstein for publicity. All he need to do is continue with his intiatives. They are his publicity and no matter how much the liberal media hates Eyeman, they cannot ignore him.
So in the end, it is Clownstein that needed Eyeman, not the other way around.
Personally I will NOT be listening to the show. If I did, I would double his Arbitron numbers. I am sure Retard Rabbit will be listening with a hard on. Besides, Drudge is on at that time on KVI 530 AM.
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To call the NYT a “newspaper of record” only shows your ignorance.
Here are some of the more famous lies they have had in the “newspaper of record” (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times):
n 1920, a New York Times editorial ridiculed Robert Goddard and his claim that a rocket would work in space:
That Professor Goddard, with his “chair” in Clark College and the countenancing of the Smithsonian Institution, does not know the relation of action to reaction, and of the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react – to say that would be absurd. Of course he only seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools.
In 1969, days before Apollo 11’s landing on the moon, the newspaper published a tongue-in-cheek correction:
Further investigation and experimentation have confirmed the findings of Isaac Newton in the 17th century, and it is now definitely established that a rocket can function in a vacuum as well as in an atmosphere. The Times regrets the error.
On November 15, 1992, the Times published a list of slang terms (known as “grunge speak”) that were supposedly used in the Seattle grunge scene. This was later proven to be a hoax created by Megan Jasper, a sales representative for Sub Pop Records.
On several occasions the Times has erroneously published premature obituaries, including:
* William Baer (a New York University professor) in 1942, as a result of a hoax by his students
* Alan Abel in 1980, who had faked his own death as an elaborate hoax
* Katharine Sergava (ballet dancer) in 2003, based on an earlier incorrect obituary in The Daily Telegraph.
Wow. Without Tim, I guess the name of the show will have to be “the Great Goldstein Masterbate”.
I hope Tim takes up the challenge. Tim, if you’re out there, go on and take your best shot. One hour is a good offer.
PBJ obviously has a hardon for David…so when does PBJ’s show come on the air?
Oh, he HAS NO SHOW???
I see.
The PBJ shows comes on the air when Goldstein gets an initiative passed and offers something constructive rather than sniping from the peanut gallery. Wow, a liberal station decides to hire a liberal wananbe. Go figure.
Gloat to me in nine months after the Arbitron numbers come out.
I will be quite an accomplishment if he can go three hours without a string of profanities.
pictorially costly creatively glean coordination!Geigy:including