Tonight on “The David Goldstein Show”, 7PM to 10PM on News/Talk 710-KIRO:
7PM: Is Gen. Petraeus “dead flat wrong”…?
Gen. Petraeus will testify before Congress tomorrow, and dollars to donuts he’ll tell America that progress is being made on the ground in Iraq, the “Surge” is working, and that he expects troop levels to start coming down next spring. I’ve already lost faith in President Bush’s newest military scapegoat… have you?
8PM: Can Richard Pope, um… win?
Perennial candidate Richard Pope is taking on drunk driving Jane Hague for King County Council… a classic battle between a gadfly and a barfly. Richard Pope joins us for the hour to explain how he can win, and what we can expect from him in office.
9PM: TBA
Tune in tonight (or listen to the live stream) and give me a call: 1-877-710-KIRO (5476).
Is bin Laden campaigning to get on the ticket with the Smartest Woman In The World? Let’s review:
OBL hates George Bush
TSWITW hates George Bush
OBL hates the US military
TSWITW hates the US military
OBL wants us to lose the war in Iraq
TSWITW wants us to lose the war in Iraq
OBL hates Christians
TSWITW hates Christians
OBL hates corporations
TSWITW hates corporations
OBL hates capitalism
TSWITW hates corporations
OBL does hair makeovers
TSWITW does hair makeovers
OBL believes in the “global warming” hoax
TSWITW believes in the “global warming” hoax
OBL thinks America Hater Noam Chomsky is a genius
TSWITW thinks America Hater Noam Chomsky is a genius
OBL took you guys to the woodshed in his latest video for failing to help him.
Now that we know whose side you’re on, what’s your plan now?
@ 1- too much silliness.
You never did respond on another thread as to why corporations are contributing if she hates them (2 items)
What evidence on Christian hating? She is one, you know.
Global warming, you consistently refuse to engage on facts, so blow that one out your chosen orifice
I’m guessing you haven’t changed your hair since high school, so go figure.
And the hating George Bush club (or at least having great disdain for his policy and abilities) is a quite large club.
And I’ve wasted more time than you deserve.
WTC People Falling Vigil
Day 2160
http://www.donaldsensing.com/P.....alling.jpg
One
Two
Three
Four
Five
Six
Seven
Eight
Nine
Ten
Eleven
…
That’s how long they were in free fall until they hit.
And now the leaders of the assholes who made this happen are giving you guys orders which you’re only too happy to follow.
Eat shit you asshole. I have family who saw the plane hit. I have friends who ran through the plaza when the bodies were falling.
And we are a weaker country for our Iraqi adventure. And your glorious Bush is responsible for Bin Laden still being at large. If he had stayed in Afghanistan and finished that job, we would all be better off.
You are a despicable piece of shit for using the deaths of Americans for your own silly games.
Fuck you K.
If you guys were on our side…the side of freedom… we’d be a lot better off.
Go over there and join your friends you despicable piece of shit.
The rest of you too…
Answer me about Afghanistan, you worthless fucker. Why Iraq? Where was Bin Laden? Why did we invade Iraq, and not, for instance North Korea? We knew they had/have nukes. Don’t you preach at me for opposing a policy which is and has been clearly wrong. And don’t you take advantage of the deaths of my countrymen.
You are a worm. You NEVER engage on facts. You act like a junior high school kid, so sure of his own intellect and so lacking in judgment and perspective.
The side of freedom is not blindly following a wrong-headed policy. I have said many times before I fully supported the invasion of Afghanistan. I have even given credit for the strategy of letting the Northern Alliance take the lead as exactly the right thing.
Then the asshole-in-chief and his minions like you decided to go off to Iraq.
Tell me again, what that had to do with Bin Laden?
Mark the Moron,
George W. Bush and his “crusade” are the best recruiting tool al Qaeda has ever had.
And Bush has turned you wingnut sheep into a bunch of bed-wetting chicken-shit pussies.
Quit cowering in fear of OBL and grow a pair, moron. And quit trashing my country you fucking meth-addled, pussy-whipped, cowardly asshole.
To be ashamed of oneself requires a degree of self awareness MTR is clearly lacking. I can generally ignore the foolishness, but there are lines which should not be crossed.
MTR,
If you’re such a “patriot”, why the fuck aren’t you over there doing your part in Dubya’s War?
Oh right, you’re a proud participant in Operation Yellow Elephant.
If the welcher Mark “the nutfuck” Goldstein feels so strongly about the war, perhaps he should fill out an application with Brown and Root. They are hiring.
That way he could get paid to fuck off and die. Which is my hope. Since he worships money, and K&R pays well, it would serve his goals as well.
So come on Mark, put some skin in the game. Or are you just a chicken shit Republican like your political masters?
Mark
Again, don’t listen to the haters.
You’re great in my book.
You’re completely insane and have comments that a 3rd-grader can see the rank illogic in.
You base 90% of your hatred for Hillary on bare-wires misogyny, and the other 10% on winger talking points.
I want you to come back and post as much as you want.
People like you make people like us look sooooo damn good!
Come back Mark! Don’t leave us! Puhleeeze!
I luuuuveee you man!! It’s not just the booze talking. I mean I really really luuuuvvvve you!!!!
Retard Redneck:
Why don’t you just admit that your cause is hopeless and take up arms against the Zionist Occupation Government like a good wingnut so we know who to put away? You’re already planning for it, aren’t you? You should get used to people hating you just like you hate us. We won’t roll over for you any more.
@1
Is bin Laden campaigning to get on the ticket with the Republicans? Let’s review:
OBL hates Bill Clinton
The Republicans hate Bill Clinton
OBL hates the Iranian leaders
The Republicans want to remove the Iranian leaders
OBL benefits from our presence in Iraq
The Republicans want us to stay in Iraq
OBL hates separation of church and state
The Republicans hate the separation of church and state
OBL hates secular schools
The Republicans hate secular schools
OBL hates high taxes
The Republicans hate high taxes
OBL puts a lot of emphasis on PR
The Republicans put a lot of emphasis on PR
OBL believes that gay marriage is an abomination
The Republicans believe that gay marriage is an abomination
OBL doesn’t think Chomsky reader Pat Tillman is an America-hater
The Republicans think Chomsky reader Pat Tillman is an America-hater
Oh well, 8 of 9 is still pretty good.
Lee @ 16,
LOL.
Here’s another one:
OBL wants you to be frightened—very frightened
The Republicans want you to be frightened—very frightened
So tell me, what the fuck is your plan to comply with your leader’s direction per the latest video. Clearly, he’s disappointed in you.
Here are your orders in OBLs words:
“People of America, the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq. After several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven’t made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continued to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing.”
Better get with it…
Oh, dude, we could keep going.
OBL believes torture is a useful tool
The Republicans believe torture is a useful tool
OBL believes we’re in an eternal struggle between good and evil
The Republicans believe we’re in an eternal struggle between good and evil
OBL wanted to see the Soviets leave Afghanistan
The Republicans helped OBL fight the Soviets in Afghanistan
C’mon, everybody join the fun!!
@18
What are we going to do? We’re going to ignore the crazyperson in Pakistan and do what’s best for America. Unfortunately, the obsessed madman in the White House doesn’t have the same approach.
OBL doesn’t follow the Geneva Conventions
The Republicans don’t follow the Geneva Conventions
Mark,
Pay your debt.
Fuck you!
Republicans want to increase defense/security spending without limit.
OBL wants the Republicans to increase defense/security spending without limit.
@1 et al. – Bush, Cheney & Co. have been in charge of our government ever since 9-11 … so, 6 years and 1/2 trillion dollars later, why hasn’t OBL been caught yet? Ummm … let’s see:
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority. I am truly not that concerned about him.”
– George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
And:
OBL believes his actions are ordained by God.
George W. Bush believes his actions ordained by God.
@1 et al. (continued) — Looks like the GOP ran out of money and turned on the AutoTroll.
@11 Hmmm … Operation Yellow Elephant, exposing Republican cowards, one at a time:
“Operation Yellow Elephant welcomes back to America Bowdoin College senior [and U.S. Marine Reservist] Alex Cornell du Houx, also an official of the College Democrats, who was called up late in 2005 for duty in Iraq. We are very pleased that he has returned home safely ….
“Two years ago, then-College Republican Dan Schuberth (’06) led the Bowdoin College Republicans in denouncing Cornell du Houx’ military service under the offensive theory that patriotism abroad requires political support of the current President at home. Despite real Americans’ shocked reactions, the Bowdoin College Republicans continued to show no class. Eventually, however, Schuberth apologized.
“When NBC News Asked The Question, Schuberth responded: I feel that my talents [are] most needed here in Maine.”
(see link @11)
Nice Job, Goldy and Richard Pope!!!
Finished listening to this evening KIRO interview with Pope and it was QUITE interesting. Sounded credible, covered a lot of ground, gave me more food for thought especially re: the Elected Elections Official spot coming on the ballot. (Frankly, no matter what the label, I always thought Richard ‘sounded/posted’ more like a Dem, rather than some rightwing Republican. Just too moderate typically to be a winger, JMHO.)
I think Richard said something about another interview tonight, Sunday, on Channel 5 @ 11:30pm, so will be looking to watch for that. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
P.S. – Goldy, don’t get your hopes up too much. I kinda doubt that Hague will be willing to give a debate with Pope. He just sounded too logical, and the story of his Aunt’s and Nephew’s deaths due to a drunk driver, well…what DUI politician would WANT to get into THAT sort of discussion? Thanks again Goldy. Nice interview!
College Republicans? Aren’t they the lowlifes who bilk senior citizens? Yes, I believe that’s so!
“Fund-raising group milks vulnerable senior citizens
“By David Postman and Jim Brunner
“Seattle Times staff reporters
“The College Republican National Committee has raised $6.3 million … through an aggressive and misleading fund-raising campaign that collected money from senior citizens ….
“Many of the top donors were in their 80s and 90s. The donors wrote checks … in at least one case, totaling more than $100,000 — to groups with official sounding-names such as “Republican Headquarters 2004,” “Republican Elections Committee” and the “National Republican Campaign Fund.” But all of those groups … were simply projects of the College Republicans, who collected all of the checks.
“And little of the money went to election efforts. Of the money spent by the group this year, nearly 90 percent went to direct-mail vendors and postage expenses, according to records filed with the Internal Revenue Service.
“Some of the elderly donors, meanwhile, wound up bouncing checks and emptying their bank accounts. ‘I don’t have any more money,’ said Cecilia Barbier, a 90-year-old retired church council worker in New York City. ‘ … That was all my savings that they got.’ Barbier said she ‘wised up.’ But not before she made more than 300 donations totaling nearly $100,000 …, the group’s fund-raising records show. …
“In Van Buren, Ark., Monda Jo Millsap, 68, said she emptied her savings account by writing checks to College Republicans, then got a bank loan of $5,000 and sent that, too, before totaling her donations at more than $59,000. …
“The board debated the fund-raising practices after the family of an elderly Indiana woman with Alzheimer’s disease demanded that her donations be returned. The woman’s family said it had sent a registered letter asking that she be taken off the mailing list, but the solicitations continued. Only after a newspaper reported on the story did the College Republicans refund $40,000 to the family, according to … one of the woman’s nieces. ‘I think this is a nationwide scam,’ Boyle said on hearing of recent complaints. ‘They’re covering the whole country … they need to be investigated.’
“The Washington State Attorney General’s Office received at least six complaints about the College Republicans fund-raising letters from …. The complaints cited ‘fund raising representations’ and ‘senior exploitation.’ …
“This year, as millions of dollars flowed in, College Republicans falsely claimed in letters that checks were only trickling in and that the group was in a constant budget crisis.
“And the elderly continued to be a major source of donations. There are far more retired people giving to College Republicans than to any other IRS-regulated independent political committee, IRS records indicate. The Times was able to determine the ages of 49 of the top 50 individual donors to the College Republicans. The median age of the donors is 85, and 14 of them are 90 or older.
“Donors interviewed this week frequently expressed disbelief when they were told how much they gave to the College Republicans. ‘That can’t be true,’ said Francis Lehar, a 91-year-old retired music publisher, when he was told records showed he gave the College Republicans nearly $23,000. … From January through September, the Massachusetts man wrote 90 checks to the group, records show. …
“Most donors interviewed said they get up to 50 solicitations in the mail each day. That pile can include four or more from the College Republicans. ‘My house looks like a post office …,’ said Anne Kravic, a retired school-district employee in Parma, Ohio. … Her small monthly pension cannot keep up with the life of a political financier. ‘I’m tired of it. … My bank account has been overdrawn already,’ she said.
“Elliot Baines is an 84-year-old Florida retiree who says he has a hard time just carrying the mail he gets each day now. … Baines was surprised to hear he had given more than $63,000 … to College Republicans. He said he was swayed to give, sometimes against his better instincts, by the power of the letters. ‘I thought if I paid them off once it would send them away, but it just encourages them to send more,’ he said. ‘It is just a rat race in this house to pay off these people and hope that they quit. But they don’t. They keep sending.'”
Quoted under fair use; for complete article and/or copyright info see http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....bs28m.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: It’s so sad. These elderly people apparently feel a sense of obligation when they read these dunning letters. They don’t realize they’re receiving impersonal form letters spit out by computers, and every check they send generates another demand for more money. What kind of scum would shamelessly exploit guileless senior citizens in this fashion? Republican scum, that’s who! They should all be jailed.
We now learn the FBI’s warrantless domestic spying is much broader than we were told. They not only spy on terrorism suspects, but also on the suspect’s “community of interest” — i.e., anyone who has had contact, however tenuous, with the suspect.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ing09.html
I do not believe the tape is genuine.
Roger Rabbit @ 29
The College Republican National Committee website actually has the incredible frank biography of former CRNC Chair Karl Rove:
“Karl Rove
Senior Advisor to President George W. Bush
CRNC National Chairman 1973-1974
CRNC Executive Director 1970-1972
In the years of the Watergage scandal, Rove’s career as a big-time political handler began with a motley crew of friends and associates. He was chairman of the College Republican National Committee when George Herbert Walker Bush was Republican National Committee in 1973. He won the Chairmanship of the College Republicans in heated a race against Terry Dolan and Bob Edgeworth. The late Lee Atwater, who later became famous as the political attack dog for the Reagan-Bush team, managed Rove’s campaign. Dolan went on to become a Soft Money pioneer by helping form the National Conservative Political Action Committee, then died of AIDS in 1986 at age 36. Dolan’s advisers in his loss to Rove were Charlie Black, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone. Those three were later instrumental in the success of Ronald Reagan’s 1984 campaign. Atwater joined the consulting firm of Black, Manafort and Stone after the ’84 election. The firm later worked for the 1988 Bush-Quayle campaign. Two of Nixon’s dirty tricksters also worked for Bush-Quayle: Frederick Malek, Bush’s Republican National Committee rep, who had compiled lists of Jews in the Bureau of Labor Statistics as part of Nixon’s investigation of a “Jewish Cabal;” and Dwight Chapin, who was jailed for lying to a grand jury about hiring Donald Sigretti to disrupt the 1972 Democratic primary campaign of Senator Edward Muskie. Chapin worked under Manafort in 1988. The firm’s other clients included drug-connected Bahamian Prime Minister Oscar Pindling, Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos, and UNITA, the South African-supported Angolan rebel group led by CIA asset Jonas Savimbi. Lee Atwater lobbied for UNITA. All of which began when Atwater was introduced to George Bush in 1973, by his good friend Karl Rove. In 1980, Bush hired Rove to help him run for president. He was the first person Bush hired for the campaign. Atwater became chairman of the Republican National Committee and one of Bush’s closest political advisors. In 1981, when Bush became Reagan’s vice president, Rove started his consulting business, Karl Rove & Co. His first direct mail client was Bill Clements, the first Republican in a century to become Texas governor.”
http://www.crnc.org/index.php?content=pastchrs
And the College Republicans are actually PROUD of all these dubious “accomplishments”? Were they drinking or high when they wrote it? Really, this stuff is too good for me to make up. Boasting about preparing for an anti-Jewish purge. Or about lying to grand juries? Or working for drug-pushing foreign leaders? This is truly incredible!
Lee says:
We also know that:
OBL hates Hillary Clinton
The Republicans hate Hillary Clinton
Therefore using the commutative property:
Bill Clinton hates Hillary Clinton. Or is it Hillary Clinton hates Bill Clinton?
Re: 28
I’m looking forward to hearing the podcast later today or tomorrow.
Richard, since I know you’re watching here is my advice, and it’s the same advice that I give to all candidates. It doesn’t matter how much you put your voice in the ears of the voters as much as how often you allow the voices of the voters get into your own ears. If you’re going to run a low-budget campaign, which I think you’re going to have to do, the best thing that you can spend money on is event after event where you give a two minute speech about what your background and priorities are, then open the floor to the people. Answer questions, listen to stories, and make sure that the people attending believe that you are interested in what they have to say and that you will respond to their issues and concerns with answers and concrete solutions.
@34
That Chad is pretty smart, Richard. This one thinks he’s right on.
@33
Lee says:
OBL hates Bill Clinton
The Republicans hate Bill Clinton
We also know that:
OBL hates Hillary Clinton
The Republicans hate Hillary Clinton
Therefore using the commutative property:
Bill Clinton hates Hillary Clinton. Or is it Hillary Clinton hates Bill Clinton?
I think you should hate whoever tried to teach you the commutative property. That’s not even close.
If A hates C and B hates C, and A hates D and B hates D, you still know nothing about the relationship between C and D.
If A hates C and B hates C, and A hates D and B hates D, you still know nothing about the relationship between C and D.
If the enemy of my enemy is my friend, then C and D should have been married to each other for decades.
Oh, wait. They have been…
36 Lee
I like you, man, but it’s not the comutative property, which is strictly mathematical.
What you’re talking about is a combination of MTR’s idiotic mssage discipline and a misuse of syllogism.
“Real” syllogism:
Major premise: All M are P.
Minor premise: All S are M.
Conclusion: All S are P.
Here’s MTR’s syllogism:
Major premise: OBL hates the US military (I don’t know if we have evidence, but a fair assumption; perhaps even true)
Minor premise: Hillary Clinton hates the US military (untrue, but a commmon false assertion)
Conclusion: OBL and Hillary Clinton are the same.
MTR is trying to use his faulty syllogism to assert a logical fallacy of association. This then is the propaganda tool of “guilt by association.”
Here’s another faulty one. See if you can find the logical fault:
Major premise: MTR uses propaganda techniques.
Minor premise: Hitler used propaganda techniques.
Conclusion: MTR is Hitler.
@36
Actually, my comment was in response to ConservativeFirst in #33. And no, it’s not the commutative property at all. My comment could have been a bit clearer. :)