Seoul – North Korea is reportedly having a new medicine clinically tested on two subjects in Russia for leader Kim Jong-il, who is suffering from diabetes and heart disease. An unnamed MP from South Korea’s ruling party was quoted yesterday as telling the Yonhap news agency that he had been briefed on the drug tests by Kim Seung-kyu, the director of South Korea’s intelligence agency. [……..Carl Grossman, would you consider donating a kidney or part of your liver to the “progressive” Democrat cause??]

…ABC’s propagandistic, lying piece of crap?”

What’s not true? That Clinton ignored dozens of attacks? That he obstructed communication between CIA and FBI that could have connected the dots?

Libruls can’t stand truth…

And what about Michael Moore’s fucking lying movie? Or the hate piece on Ronald Reagan a few years ago that defamed him? Where were you guys then? Uh huh… you were cheering….

Oh and being a maniger of the corner 7-11 dosn’t make you a corpert player Buttnutz

MTR, what a buttmunch. Read the history. The “wall” was in place before Clinton and Bush just reinforced it.

“I don’t belong to an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.” – Will Rogers.

Commentby MTR — 9/10/06@ 7:50 pm

And what about Michael Moore’s (expletive deleted) lying movie? Or the hate piece on Ronald Reagan a few years ago that defamed him? Where were you guys then? Uh huh… you were cheering….

Correct me if I’m wrong here, but didn’t the folks on the right make such a big stink about the Reagan movie that it was pulled from network television?

And while I can’t comment about Mr. Moore’s film (because I never saw it) I have not seen it show up on network television claiming to be an unbiased account of actual events.

Seems just a bit hypocritical for the right to be making a big deal about the ABC movie after the volume of protests they orchestrated against the earlier movie about the Reagans.

Oh, wait. It’s ok for conservatives to protest a movie, it’s not ok for liberals to protest a movie.

Personally, I think everyone is making way too much noise about this. Neocons are already convinced that President Bush is the second coming of Ronald Reagan, whom they consider to be one of the major saints. (Michael, Gabriel and Ronald.) They are also convinced that all Democrats and liberal Republicans are traitors. “Gee, if we could just get rid of that traitorous two-thirds of the country, this place would be great!”

Some liberals are convinced that President Bush is actually the child of Satan and sibling to Ann Coulter, and that everything that happened even before he became President is his fault. Those same folks are against the death penalty for any crime except voting Republican. I’ve got e-mails from “People for the American Way” asking me to phone Disney in protest.

The rest of us realize that it’s just a movie. Does anyone here remember the theme song from MST3K?

“Just repeat to yourself, it’s just a show, I really should relax!”

Afghanistan Falling Apart. Another Mission Accomplished Right Bush?

THE former aide-de-camp to the commander of the British taskforce in southern Afghanistan has described the campaign in Helmand province as “a textbook case of how to screw up a counter-insurgency”.
“Having a big old fight is pointless and just making things worse,” said Captain Leo Docherty, of the Scots Guards, who became so disillusioned that he quit the army last month.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2350795,00.html

Read this. The end of being Republican……

To think Bush is making us safer would be cause for a trip to the funny farm, and your own rubber room.

We could have turned Afghanistan into a paradise, and now it is just turning into another bunch of people that hate America….

It didn’t have to be this way. Bush just can’t help but make people hate America and want to KILL ME!!!!!!

If you are not actively opposing Bush, and everything he does you are a TRAITOR!!!!

Unity Iraq Government Now Falling Apart

Another Mission Accomplished Eh Bush?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09.....ref=slogin

Dude, Goldy, I don’t know how you stomach all these profane, right-wing loonies mucking up the works. Don’t you feel like it cheapens the discourse?

I can’t figure out why any self-respecting moderate would take the time to learn a new point of view when these monkeys keep throwing their crap all over it.

P.S. Watch “911: Press for Truth”! It’ll blow your freakin’ mind! (I’ve got it linked over at The Tahoma Activist

The wife and I ended up watching CBS’s updated version of the French brothers’ film about the guys from Ladder One.

One thing all this reminds us of is that 9.11 happened on Bush’s watch. No matter how many mock-u-mentaries the righties create, they won’t be able to change that little fact, nor the fact that the Bush family was hosting the bin Laden family in the US that day, nor the fact that Bush had a chance to kill Osama on September 10 and passed, nor the fact that while the rest of us were grounded, Bush let the bin Ladens and other Saudis fly out of the country, nor the fact that five years later, we haven’t found a 7′ tall Arab named Osama.

One thing all this reminds us of is that 9.11 happened on Bush’s watch.

Commentby RightEqualsStupid— 9/10/06@ 10:16 pm

I thank God Bush was president when 911 happened. If Gore was successful in stealing the Florida election this country would be a mess right now. A dozen 911’s would have taken place by now.

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Thank you, Kreskin.

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And Pelosi and her gang are your answer to a strong terrorist fighting congress…..

Make me laugh some more…

You’ve kicked out the only democrats that had it right on terrorism.

Wow ABC actually did better than we thought at See BS. The special line was “Are there no men in Washington”.

Correct me if I’m wrong here, but didn’t the folks on the right make such a big stink about the Reagan movie that it was pulled from network television? “Just repeat to yourself, it’s just a show, I really should relax!” Commentby John Barelli— 9/10/06@ 8:58 pm

Yes John, you should relax. To answer your baseless charge above, no one from Congress threatened a TV station.

I asked these questions yesterday John Barelli. I suppose you lacked the intestinal fortitude to answer them today like you missed them yesterday:

Moonbats why when you are cornered like the democRATS you are want to shut down Disney/ABC?

“We write with serious concerns about the planned upcoming broadcast of The Path to 9/11 mini-series on September 10 and 11. Countless reports from experts on 9/11 who have viewed the program indicate numerous and serious inaccuracies that will undoubtedly serve to misinform the American people about the tragic events surrounding the terrible attacks of that day. Furthermore, the manner in which this program has been developed, funded, and advertised suggests a partisan bent unbecoming of a major company like Disney and a major and well respected news organization like ABC. We therefore urge you to cancel this broadcast to cease Disney’s plans to use it as a teaching tool in schools across America through Scholastic. Presenting such deeply flawed and factually inaccurate misinformation to the American public and to children would be a gross miscarriage of your corporate and civic responsibility to the law, to your shareholders, and to the nation.

The Communications Act of 1934 provides your network with a free broadcast license predicated on the fundamental understanding of your principle obligation to act as a trustee of the public airwaves in serving the public interest. Nowhere is this public interest obligation more apparent than in the duty of broadcasters to serve the civic needs of a democracy by promoting an open and accurate discussion of political ideas and events. …

Should Disney allow this programming to proceed as planned, the factual record, millions of viewers, countless schoolchildren, and the reputation of Disney as a corporation worthy of the trust of the American people and the United States Congress will be deeply damaged. We urge you, after full consideration of the facts, to uphold your responsibilities as a respected member of American society and as a beneficiary of the free use of the public airwaves to cancel this factually inaccurate and deeply misguided program. We look forward to hearing back from you soon.”

Why did your congressional donko friends plan on using the power of the federal government to demand political changes to a program before it airs, which in itself is a dangerous precedent?

When the Reagan “documentary” was being bantied about did congressinal Republicans call for the removal. No!

Did congressional Republicans threaten CBS’ broadcast license? No!

Did congressional Republicans threaten government censorship if they don’t get their own way? No!

Did congressional Republicans whip out lawyers like Clinton has done? No!

Did congressional Republicans Threaten CBS with legislative and regulatory reprisals over content of Reagan Film? No!

Did congressional Republicans threaten the CBS with free speeach writs? No!

So how can Goldie and the Furballettes support this attack on ABC? Only from the mind of a moonbat!

Just asking moonbats: What did Kos or Michael Moore have say this morning? Did you get the latest ingredients for your September 10, 2006 kool-aid?

Commentby Mike Webb SUCKS— 9/10/06@ 11:55 am

So how do you support this attack on artistic freedom.

I THOUGHT THE MOONBATS WERE THE ONES SCREAMING ARTISTIC FREEDOM WHEN A CRUCIFIX WAS PUT IN A JAR OF PISS OR DUNG WAS PLACED ON A JESUS STATUE? NOW MOONBATS WANTED TO STOP THIS ARTISTIC FILM??

The duplicitiousness of Moonbats

The Washington State Supreme Court…justices provided by the BIAW. Commentby John Slyfield— 9/10/06@ 10:17 pm

Gerry “Let Pedophile Killers Go Early” Alexander is a real winner of a judge. Probably a good friend of Roger Furball.

Looks like the AP had a mole in Saddam’s camp.

http://70.168.46.200/Released/.....026108.pdf

Republic of Iraq
The Presidency of the Republic

The Intelligence Service

Date: 25/7/2000

Number: 6146

Secret

To: 5th / 4th / 13th Directorates

We were informed from one of our sources (the degree of trust in him is good) who works in the American Associated Press Agency [emphasis added] that the agency broadcasted to through computer to its branches worldwide the following

Proves the MSM are anti-neocon assisters of terrorism. Didn’t history prove they vote 85% OR GREATER MOONBAT?

To steal the Puddy line – Nuff Said or was it NUFF Said or was it Nuff SAID! Well they all work!

Commentby Mike Webb SUCKS— 9/11/06@ 4:48 am

I’m glad you brought it up because congressional Republicans did indeed threaten CBS over the movie about the Reagans.

“Nuff said,” indeed.

WOS – Insane as usual. The propaganda (this stupid movie) contains lies. Lies you believe in. You can cheerlead all you want for those lies because you’re insane.

The reality-based folks refuse to let lies be broadcast over the public airwaves without a fight. Edit out the lies and you’re left with a normal bad TV movie. That’s all we’re asking for.

Already the freepers are complaining there’s not wingnut fantasies in this movie.

From the “McGavick’s Fables” thread:

King 5 Robert Mak had mcgavick on this morning.
You may want to ask Mak for the copy of the Article detailing the Track Star that they say they have.
You may want to watch it, it discredits all your claims of Black out Drunk, Horrible Parenting, Credit Profiling, and Track Star Status.
You are now considered the MEDIA, for your efforts.
Commentby darcys my gal— 9/10/06@ 11:38 am
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Just when did Robert Mak speak about that video? I just watched the “Up Front” show, and no mention of a video about the track meet.

When Mak asked about the track meet, McGavick’s “answer” was that he “spent the weekend looking for the clipping.” He didn’t say he found it.

Someone who was present would do. How about a date and the name of the competition?

On the 5th anniversary of 9/11 here’s our fearful misleader with Laura at his side laying a wreath, all but alone with his bankrupt policies:

Here, here and here.

Sandy “Socks” Berger: Carl Grossman?

I’m glad you brought it up because congressional Republicans did indeed threaten CBS over the movie about the Reagans. “Nuff said,” indeed. Commentby Another TJ— 9/11/06@ 6:20 am

Admittly I didn’t know that since I have never visited this moonbat before. Now you have the head of the RNC and a Congressperson writing about the Reagan miniseries. Interesting Development.

Compare/contrast this with Howard Screech Dean, Nancy Face Pelosi, Harry Pay My Son Please Reid, Bill I like Juicy Cigars Clinton, Hillary UN Villager Clinton, and many other congressional moonbats threatening ABC.

BIG DIFFERENCE bubba!

munber should be number

I already did. If you can’t read too bad.

The Communications Act of 1934 provides your network with a free broadcast license predicated on the fundamental understanding of your principle obligation to act as a trustee of the public airwaves in serving the public interest. Nowhere is this public interest obligation more apparent than in the duty of broadcasters to serve the civic needs of a democracy by promoting an open and accurate discussion of political ideas and events. …

Should Disney allow this programming to proceed as planned, the factual record, millions of viewers, countless schoolchildren, and the reputation of Disney as a corporation worthy of the trust of the American people and the United States Congress will be deeply damaged. We urge you, after full consideration of the facts, to uphold your responsibilities as a respected member of American society and as a beneficiary of the free use of the public airwaves to cancel this factually inaccurate and deeply misguided program. We look forward to hearing back from you soon.”

If that isn’t a veiled threat I don’t know what is. The Republicans NEVER pulled those shenanigans over the Reagans. NEVER! NEVER!

You are summarily dismissed through your own stupidity.

PS Look at Chucky Schumer and Harry Reid publically said!

For a good commentary on the NY Times issue, check out this Crooks and Liar MBNBC Countdown video.

Howard Kurtz also weighs in about the matter and the fact the Wall Street Journal also wrote about this supposedly secret spy program.

Goldy,

Please read “Why Conseravtives Can’t Govern”, by Alan Wolfe in the current Washington Monthly. Highly recommended, and it fits nicely with your 7:00 meme.

“Let’s impeach the president for lyin’.”

Neil Young

Speaking of ozone layer… a few years ago, that was the darling of the gullible environmentalists. What happened to that? When did solar warming take its place? Why?

How you moonbats doing with that chi squared analysis of current temps? Any luck yet?

The Montreal Protocol was signed in 1985, leading to the banning by the major industrial powers of chloroflourocarbons, and they were by and large no longer in use by 1996. In 2003 it was reported that the ozone layer is no longer being depleted, quite possibly because of the banning of the CFC. Unfortunately CFC’s have an atmospheric life of about 150 to 200 years. The best guesstimate is that the ozone layer will not significantly improve for a lifetime.
This underscores the thought that Mankind’s action can damage the world environment, and a change in human behaviors can help and improve it.

TFF – You’ll be needing some treatment for rake handle injuries…

1) Explain how CFCs break down.
2) Explain how they get to the ozone layer
3) Explain how chlorine interacts with ozone in the atmosphere when they can’t even get it to react in the fucking lab.
4) Tell us how much chlorine is man made versus big stuff like volcanos.
5) Explain why it happens some years and some years it doesn’t.
6) Show some data for UV radiation increase
7) Show where skin cancer rates are way up under the hole, or show data where plants have been affected.
8) Explain why natural sinks like THE FUCKING OCEANS aren’t effective.

WHACK ! ! ! !

I’ll give the correct answers later.

Gullible fucking idiots…

As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA. As long as Mark the Retarded Redneck is a deadbeat he has no standing on HA.

TFF – Didn’t think so.

LMAO…

Mark the Idiot will give the “correct” answers.

These are the ones he gets from the circle-jerk blogs created by college dropouts working long hours at Wendy’s now that theire parents are dead, disgusted, demented, whatever.

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

Have you paid your debt to Goldy yet, Marky? I’m really looking forward to your debate with dj.

Put in some overtime down a Blockbuster, won’t you? $100 isn’t that much.

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I wonder when Dr. Redneck is going to publish his findings so that the EPA can be set straight. I’m sure that Dr. Redneck’s detailed analysis of the fallacy of CFC affecting the ozone layer would be of great interest to chemical companies and other manufacturers, in fact, one wonders why they aren’t funding him.

Vagina Lips asks many questions, provides no answers, cites no sources–one can only conclude he is a dimwitted jacknape.

Here’s some for you, fuckwad:

1) Explain how the earth is flat.
2) Explain how it looks like a flat disc, even from space!!!!!
3) Explain how you can walk a long way and never fucking fall off the edge.
4) Tell us how it never manages to “flip” over.
5) Explain why some people believe it so, and others don’t!
6) Show some data on how flatness is a universal characteristic.
7) Show statistically that flatness is associated with disturbing psychological behavior.
8) Explain why you can sail continually in one direction and get back to where you started. Fucking clue: Strong headwinds don’t count.

Enjoy, dimwit.

Rush is on Monday morning. I’ll listen to him, along with 20 million others. [How many listen to Goldystein?]

ok let it be kn ow that I tuned it @ 9:53….

I gotta tell ya goldstein that running up and down the musical scale trilling and intonation you do with your voice HAS GOT TO GO.

OH MY GOD the musical scale talking has got to go.

You are not, I REPEAT you, are NOY hosting story time for pre-schoolers at the childrens library…. although most of what you blab about here and there could be considered fairy tales…

Treat those 12 listeners as adults goldstein… and for God sake, GO LISTEN TO A TAPE OF YOUR SELF!… If not, KIRO can consider renaming your show “Sing Along with goldy The H’ASS”!

Hey moonbats:

Looks like your good friends are acting like Kennedys.

http://www.chron.com/disp/stor.....14662.html

Next thing you know, he’ll be demanding a bubble machine… “a one and and two” … ‘wunnerful, wunnerful’

Do re mi fa so la ti do, so do ti la so fa mi re do
Do re mi fa so la ti do, so do ti la so fa mi re do
Do re mi fa so la ti do, so do ti la so fa mi re do

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“Any rightie comes to my door trying that Nazi bullshit and they’ll wish they hadn’t!” Commentby BushWentAwol— 7/2/06@ 8:42 pm

Any rightie comes to my burrow trying that Nazi bullshit, he wouldn’t be around long enough to wish anything.

I’m all in favor of civility. I think Republicans should go first, since they started the incivility.

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Shit we are just getting started. We are not going to compromise anymore. If the left wants to talk on our terms then so be it. Until then get to it.

31.

Yes, I do know the differenced between sniping and constructive criticism. The prospect of receiving constructive criticism from you is laughable.

mod·u·la·tion Audio pronunciation of “modulation” ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mj-lshn)
n.

1. The act or process of modulating.
2. The state of being modulated.
3. Music.
1. A passing or transition from one key or tonality to another.
2. The result of such a transition.
4.
1. A change in stress, pitch, loudness, or tone of the voice; an inflection of the voice.
2. An instance of such a change or an inflection.

5. The harmonious use of language, as in poetry or prose.
6. Electronics. The variation of a property of an electromagnetic wave or signal, such as its amplitude, frequency, or phase.

It’s too bad that Snarky couldn’t get on the radio. You guys are just like day old fish.

and goldstein goes UP, down, UP, down, UP, down, down, UP, UP, down, UP, down…. sing along loonies and leftys….

UP, down, UP, down, UP, down, down, UP, UP, down, UP, down

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Harry, you’re wasting your time trying to teach literacy to these nazi fucks! Just lock and load. They understand the sound of brass sliding on steel — it’s one of the few things they do understand.

1. A change in stress, pitch, loudness, or tone of the voice; an inflection of the voice.
2. An instance of such a change or an inflection.

Oh yeah, he’s go that nailed… and overworked…

Do re mi fa so la ti do, so do ti la so fa mi re do
UP, down, UP, down, UP, down, down, UP, UP, down, UP, down
Do re mi fa so la ti do, so do ti la so fa mi re do
UP, down, UP, down, UP, down, down, UP, UP, down, UP, down
Do re mi fa so la ti do, so do ti la so fa mi re do
UP, down, UP, down, UP, down, down, UP, UP, down, UP, down

BRING IT ON, LITTLE BUNNY

#46 Nice Photoshop work there, that your new ID ?

How are the hormone treatments going ?

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Talk about ahigh voice, ProudAss, you’ve got virtual contralto.

We should seize all wealth, particularly inherited wealth, and re-distribute it to all.

re 7: I’d like the internal freedoms the Swedes enjoy and the reality based militaristic doggedness of North Korea.

Basically, my answer to you is : KMA, buttmunch. We’ll find a use for those Halliburton concentration camps before this whole sad story is over. There just about big enough to hold every chickenhawk in the U.S.

We should seize all wealth, particularly inherited wealth, and re-distribute it to all.

Commentby Karl Marx [……………………………………………………Karl, You copied this from Roger Rabbit! hehe, JCH Kennedy]

Rush is a big star with millions of fans. Why is he going to the Dominican Republic anyhow? Why can’t he get his freak on with his fans?

Oh, right. His fans are all castrated white men like MTR.

Sorry. My bad.

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“He doesn’t hafta fuck Murkan women anymore.”

You oughta know, Retardo! Can you tell us again how much your last fuck cost you?

F I V E H U N D R E D T H O U S A N D D O L L A R S

har har har har har har har

(raucous rabbit laughter in background)

Dingleberries: Your good friends the islamofascists are showing their true colors in Israel. They are setting deadlines over the Israeli soldier and possibly killing him like they did to that 18 year old settler and then they burned his body. Yeah your good friends. So the next time they take a moonbat hostage like Nick Berg, by your reckoning we should leave them be right?

If moonbats had a stance on the war on terror you guys would win congress hands down. But you don’t and you won’t.

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We don’t need no Ann Coulter pollution. Spare us that much.

das-

Obvisouly, you’ve never served in the US armed forces. When private contractors go flat-hatting all over Iraq, get shot down and put the Army in the position on saving their asses, that’s what Kos was talking about. When a private in the US Army (paid about 15 grand) has to risk his life to save the ass of some paid mercenary (paid 120 grand), this is bullshit. I support the US Army. Chickenhawks like you support Blackwater Security.

I’d love a serious discussion of the folly of declaring radio show talk as campaign contributions…

of course if you guys insist that Kiro guys are violating laws…then lets add you to it

(by the way Seattle Times owes a big fine for their front page hit piece to hlep out Maria….don’t tell me that wasn’t a lib wanting a lib, and writing an article to make it more likely)

Will, all I know is that Kos unleashed his strongest vilification for the murdered rather than the murderers and that is pretty much standard operating procedure for Kos; I didn’t know the murdered violated a tenant of the left by making decent money – and that – unequal to US soldiers. According to the logic of the left that makes them deserve what they got. Lovely bunch, you guys.

Republicans won’t disavow Coulter because they’re just as sick, twisted, demented, violent, and sociopathic as she is.

Again with the corporation as boogy man – you are better than that roger r

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“I’m not sure what I am” Commentby das— 6/25/06@ 6:19 pm

Let me help you out with that — you’re a mental defective with your mouth where your asshole is supposed to be, and your asshole where your mouth is supposed to be.

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We’ve had a bunch of CEOs running our government for five years, and the results speak for themselves. This is the worst government of the last 100 years.

Ann Coulter is shit. She’s lower than shit – she’s whale shit. And if it weren’t illegal, I’d hope someone would kill the fucking AIDS-infested bitch! And anyone who doesn’t distance themselves from her, is no better.

I’d pay money to get five minutes with the cunt to tell her what I think of her and her ilk.

GOP CAMPAIGN STRATEGY REVEALED

Disenfranchise people of color. Interesting that they, themselves, believe they can “win” elections only by keeping American citizens from voting in their own country.

“Don’t kid yourself: the Republican party’s decision yesterday to ‘delay’ the renewal of the Voting Rights Act has not a darn thing to do with objections of the Republican’s white sheets caucus. Complaints by a couple of good ol’ boys to legislation have never stopped the GOP leadership from rolling over dissenters.

“This is a strategic stall that is meant to decriminalise the Republican party’s new game of challenging voters of colour by the hundreds of thousands.

“In the 2004 presidential race, the GOP ran a massive, multi-state, multimillion-dollar operation to challenge the legitimacy of black, Hispanic and Native American voters. The methods used breached the Voting Rights Act, and while the Bush administration’s civil rights division grinned and looked the other way, civil rights lawyers began circling, preparing to sue to stop the violations of the act before the 2008 race.

“So Republicans have promised to no longer break the law – not by going legit but by eliminating the law.

“The act was passed in 1965 after the Ku Klux Klan and other upright citizens found they could use procedural tricks – ‘literacy tests’, poll taxes and more – to block citizens of colour from casting ballots.

“Here is what happened in 2004, and what’s in store for 2008.

“In the 2004 election, more than 3 million voters were challenged at the polls. No one had seen anything like it since the era of Jim Crow and burning crosses. In 2004, voters were told their registrations had been purged or that their addresses were ‘suspect’.

“Denied the right to the regular voting booths, these challenged voters were given ‘provisional’ ballots. More than 1m of these provisional ballots (1,090,729 of them) were tossed in the electoral dumpster uncounted.

“A funny thing about those ballots: about 88% were cast by minority voters.

“This isn’t a number dropped on me from a black helicopter: they come from the raw data of the US election assistance commission in Washington DC.

“At the heart of the GOP’s mass challenge of voters was what the party’s top brass called ‘caging lists’ – secret files of hundreds of thousands of voters, almost every one from a black-majority voting precinct.

“When our investigations team, working for BBC TV, got our hands on these confidential files in October 2004, the Republicans told us the voters listed were their potential ‘donors’. Really? The sheets included pages of men from homeless shelters in Florida.

“Donor lists, my ass. Every expert told us, these were ‘challenge lists’ meant to stop these black voters from casting ballots.

“When these ‘caged’ voters arrived at the polls in November 2004, they found their registrations missing, their right to vote blocked or their absentee ballots rejected because their addresses were supposedly ‘fraudulent’.

“Why didn’t the GOP honchos fess up to challenging these allegedly illegal voters? Because targeting voters of colour is against the law. The law in question is the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

“The act says you can’t go after groups of voters if you choose your targets based on race. Given that almost all the voters on the GOP hit list are black, the illegal racial profiling is beyond even Karl Rove’s ability to come up with an alibi.

“The Republicans target black folk not because they don’t like the colour of their skin; they don’t like the colour of their vote: Democrat. For that reason, the GOP included on its hit list Jewish retirement homes in Florida. Apparently, the GOP was also gunning for the Elderly of Zion.

“These so-called ‘fraudulent’ voters, in fact, were not fraudulent at all. Page after page, as we have previously reported, are black soldiers sent overseas. The Bush campaign used their absence from their US homes to accuse them of voting from false addresses.

“Now that the GOP has been caught breaking the voting rights law, it has found a way to keep using its expensively obtained ‘caging’ lists: let the law expire next year. If the Voting Rights Act dies in 2007, the 2008 race will be open season on dark-skinned voters. Only the renewal of the Voting Rights Act can prevent the planned racial wrecking of democracy.

“Before the 2000 presidential ballot, then Jeb Bush purged thousands of Black citizens’ registrations on the grounds that they were ‘felons’ not entitled to vote. Our review of the files determined that the crime of most people on the list was nothing more than VWB — Voting While Black.

“That ‘felon scrub’, as the state called it, had to be ‘pre-cleared’ under the Voting Rights Act. That is, the US justice department must approve “scrubs” and other changes in procedures.

“The Florida felon scrub slipped through this ‘pre-clearance’ provision because Katherine Harris’s assistant assured the government the scrub was just a clerical matter. Civil rights lawyers are now on the alert for such mendacity.

“The burning cross caucus of the Republican Party is bitching that ‘pre-clearance’ of voting changes applies only to southern states. I have to agree that singling out the old confederacy is a bit unfair. But the solution is not to smother the voting rights law but to spread its safeguards to all 50 of these United States.

“Republicans argue that the racial voting games and the threats of the white-hooded Klansmen that kept African-Americans from the ballot box before the 1965 passage of the Voting Rights Act no longer threaten black voters.

“That’s true. When I look over the ‘”caging lists’ and the ‘scrub sheets’, it’s clear to me that the GOP has traded in white sheets for spreadsheets.”

http://commentisfree.guardian......to_bu.html

Hey trollfucks! How many of you America-hating fascists have supported the troops by buying a helmet upgrade kit for a soldier in Afghanistan or Iraq? http://www.operation-helmet.org/

Yeah, I thought so. All mouth, no money.

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Why are you insulting whales? Whales are our friends. Even their shit is benign, compared to Coulter. One more thing — if I paid money for 5 minutes with that whore, I wouldn’t waste that time on talk.

Das-

No, Roger is no better than that. Bitter, bitter old loser man.

Roger, Does Helen Thomas like it on top?

No, Hairy Turtle, you are the fool, over, and over again.

Harry, I think the fault lies primarily with the public school system. Quick, now: How many teachers in your entire K-12 career had a sense of humor? I can remember maybe two. Look what happened to me.

Funny you should mention irony, Harry. A recent study produced by the Institute for the Extermination of Liberalism shows that iberals have a 56 percent less capacity for irony than Wall Street conservatives, 73 percent less capacity than cultural conservatives, and 103 percent less capacity than neo-Nazi conservatives.

This clearly proves that you are not only wrong, Harry, but sadly lacking in irony yourself. Perhaps you should start going to church.

We’ll disavow Ann Coulter when you guys disavow Michael Moore, Barbra Streisand, Alec Baldwin, The Dixie Chicks, and Algore.

Why is it OK for you guys to drip violent kook crap and somehow when we tell the fucking truth you have a problem with it.

Typical fucking moonbat hypocrites…

36.

Tell us, oh wonder of the four degrees, of the transgressions of those on your list of hateful lefties.

That was Joe Kennedy, wasn’t it?

Will, I stand with anyone with a finger on a loaded gun pointed at terrorists.

Harry, you seem obessed about my cofessed past, as a hard core, true-blue leftist; I was and someday we’ll have the opportunity for you to examine my bonafides; trouble is I still feel like a liberal; after 9/11 though, all my liberal friends whooshed past me into a nut-land of HalliburtonBush-Hitlerville, while the rough beast slouched towards Bethlehem, born and devouring as he went.

Why do you hate conservatives more than the jihad terrorists? Isn’t that a kind of luxury? the kind of cost-free hatred that you can perform in the comfort of your computer room? Just curious…

42

“all my liberal friends whooshed past me into a nut-land of HalliburtonBush-Hitlerville”

Screeeeeech … hit the brakes! Republicans have squandered 2,500 American lives and half a trillion dollars in a war against a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11 or terrorism … and you think the liberals who question the GOP’s lies and incompetence are in “nut-land”?

My friend, you seriously need help.

There is something in the conservative position that elicits all this leftoid fetor; Goldy’s Palace guards here are far more excercised against pro-Bush forces than terrorists; that tells me that they bask in a vast sense of luxurious self-righteous anger about the world; anger is just that = a luxury; there is a certain 2-year old charm in all the diaper rash going on here; you guys poop out fetor and explitives with the abandon of happy infants…but…there is an enemy and it isn’t Bush or Republicans; to the degree that you continue to believe this lark your world lies untouched by the terrorist monster…

If terrorists hate freedom and democracy, why aren’t they blowing up buildings in Sweden?

The religious right hates freedom and democracy. Right wing nuts who murder abortion doctors are terrorists. The KKK conservatives who recently burned a 22 foot cross to intimidate Mexicans are terrorists. I could go on like this forever, das , because you and your kind are terrorists.

The KKK conservatives who recently burned a 22 foot cross to intimidate Mexicans are terrorists.

Commentby L-Mur Phd.— 6/25/06@ 8:59 pm

For crying out loud. That was my fund raiser dipshit. Geeeesh

Hahahaha

These dems keep on hanging themselves with the KKK stuff.

roger; you move to e. washington..? looking for that elusive 3% of our energy?

49.

Well said Harry, well said, though I disagree will all your premises. I especially liked your last two sentences (the writing not the sentiment);

It is hard to talk to you and roger because you keep putting forth all these “Grail” sentences posing as arguement but, in reality, they are not;

You think you gain high ground – shutting my mouth – by mentioning the 2500 hundred dead over and over as though you owned these lives now gone, now sacrificed for us. Again, this is a leftist tactic to foreclose on the whole issue of Iraq by appealing to the dead. These dead soldiers are important to you insofar as their deadness helps you to foreclose your argument about Iraq; See, dead soldiers; Iraq no good. Well pick a number and stand in line because these men and women soldiers were lots of things before being snared as a cipher in your frustrated arguing about Iraq. These men and women had committed themselves voluntarily to military vows, to an elected civilian commander in chief; these are sacred and ancient vows made more so now because they are voluntary. The nail in the head of the left is that the military is a volunteer military. And no amount of sneering and yes, blaspheme upon their vows and purpose will change that. You think by screaming about the military dead you are implicating those of us committed to the war in Iraq – again another leftist quest for purity.

another thing that is weird about the left: you’re so eager to scream about the dead soldiers and you are so eager to believe they walk into houses to shoot women and children in the head. What is the matter with you?

Beverly is a crank. She is more than a little cracked on the subject of abortion. She also has some truly wierd raps about Catholicism.

THIS JUST IN FROM THE DESK OF
MARK THE RED DICK:

Oh, people of such small minds,
I have a secret for you
that I will now reveal
about the great mystery of global warming.

There is no new scientific data you can show me,
for mine is supremely
above all else.

I am no mere commenter here;
I am the Minister of Global Warming Truth.
Behold my genius!

I am the Kingdom,
the Power,
and the Glory,
for Ever and Ever.

Amen.

I guess D’Ass is going to disavow himself from Ann Coulter and Pat Robertson:
“At least the right attempts taking on international mad-dog heartless religio fanatic killers…

Commentby das— 6/25/06

Or perhaps such a small, baby step toward sanity is beyond his bold rhetoric.

58.

Are you speaking of the end of days, das?

Is this excursion in Iraq a Holy mission to you?

In order to protect Bethlehem, are we to leave our cities undefended?

Thank you, General Butler. Another quote of yours I take to heart is this:

When he [the returning soldier] returned home minus an eye, or a leg, or his mind broken, they suffered too — as much as and even sometimes more than he. Yes, and they, too, contributed their dollars to the profits that the munitions makers and bankers and shipbuilders and manufacturers and speculators made…And even now the families of the wounded men and of the mentally broken and those who never were able to readjust themselves are still suffering and still paying.

Careful, Gen. Butler, das may spit on your grave and accuse you of blasphemy.

It would have been far cheaper (not to say safer) for the average American who pays the bills to stay out of foreign entanglements. For a very few, this racket, like boot-legging and other underworld rackets, brings fancy profits, but the cost of operations is always transferred to the people-who do not profit.

But General Butler Sir, won’t our entire way of life collapse like an iceberg into a warming sea of unanticipated consequences if we dump our old friend, the Permanent Wartime Economy? Or have I been duped by the miltary-industrial complex and its fellow travelers in the MSM?

das: Are you Kevin Carns? Only a propagandist like Carns would so blatantly distort the views of people who disagree with the Iraq policy of the Bush mis-administration. This policy has meant nothing but disaster for this country.

Iraq is bad because:

1) it wasn’t necessary, Iraq was a negligible threat
2) it has cost this country countless billion in treasure
3) it has cost this country the good will of much of the world
4) it has exhausted the resources of the U.S. military
5) it has cost 10 of thousands of Iraqi lives
6) it has maimed and traumatized many more thousands of Iraqis
7) it has maimed and traumatized thousands of Americans
8) over 2500 Americans are dead

Have I missed anything?

Conservative yellow-cake REPUBLICANS are terrorists.

Rick Santorum is a flat out crazy ass bitch!!!

Click here for artist’s rendition of Ann Coulter disbarment proceeding. http://www.adhb30.dsl.pipex.com/100war_joa2.jpg

Clueless @ 74, whoever das is, I suspect he isn’t Carns. The latter seems to be more interested in state politics, and (if I’m guessing right) has a pretty crass approach to propagandizing. Das seems to have more national/international interests, and he’s a more nuanced wordsmith. Perhaps das is affiliated with one of the national Republican spin-control outfits.

I profoundly disagree with das’s arguments, but I’d rather read him than the contentless carpet bombings of JCH or the trailer park bellowing of MTR.

All,

A beautiful cacophony of leftoid cliche (I especially loved mommy’s 70’s beaut – Permanent Wartime Economy – that’s a chestnut to warm the heart of any dreadlocked drum circle! : the once powerful progressive ideas that were to transform the world now reduced to sneering at journalists and elected officials and those who disagree with them; and narry a word against the jihad terrorists who would gleefully cut leftoid throats…
1) it wasn’t necessary, Iraq was a negligible threat
Right. Leftist dreaming.
2) it has cost this country countless billion in treasure
Wait till things really crank up. In WWII we spent 30% of the GNP on war; we’re nowhere near than yet.
3) it has cost this country the good will of much of the world
We never had the goodwill of the people who write for newspapers in foreign countries; america bashing is oldtime religion among the writer classes of the world; on the other hand the world’s poor are dying to get here;
4) it has exhausted the resources of the U.S. military
which US Military?
5) it has cost 10 of thousands of Iraqi lives
terrorists kill, that’s what they do…
6) it has maimed and traumatized many more thousands of Iraqis
terrorists are having a field day in Iraq
7) it has maimed and traumatized thousands of Americans
who happen to be volunteer soldiers committed to this fight;
8) over 2500 Americans are dead
See post 58. You don’t care about the soldiers except as dead soldiers – only as an illustration for your argument; the live soldiers you slander and accuse of murder and heap any kind of defamatory innuendo upon them – do don’t give me your dead soldier bit, bub.

Here we thought these kooks were from [un]SP, and they’re coming from the Discovery Institute.

80

Carns is paid to promote the pro-developer agenda of the BIAW.

D’ass starts to show his truly psychotic colors. . .his talking points are dissolving even as he types them in to the ‘puter. It’s not ‘cut-n-run’ when General Casey speaks of a draw down. And when present and former members of the Joint Chief’s of Staff speak of “breaking the military” D’Ass in his omniscient knowledge of all things military says it is not so. . .
Perhaps his knowledge of the military is as extensive as Karl Roves knowledge of his boy-toy Gannon Gukert.

If you snatch away das Thesaurus the pustulating primal hatred will soon appear.

Conservatism is all about hate and fear and corporatism.

A beautiful cacophony of leftoid cliche

Which you answer with bankrupt rightist talking points.

the jihad terrorists who would gleefully cut leftoid throats…

Perfect example.

1) Right. Leftist dreaming.

So was S.H. involved in 9/11? Despite Cheney’s bloviations, not even Bush went so far. Did Britain and the U.S. patrol the southern and northern frontiers of Iraq? Did they bomb at will?

2) Wait till things really crank up. In WWII we spent 30% of the GNP on war; we’re nowhere near than yet.

I’m reminded of Shakespeare – ’tis a dream devoutly to be wished.. Well is it das?

3)We never had the goodwill of the people who write for newspapers in foreign countries; america bashing is oldtime religion among the writer classes of the world; on the other hand the world’s poor are dying to get here;

Sigh. Countless before and after opinion surveys bear this out despite people’s economic aspirations.

4) which US Military?

Army and Marines. It appears the navy and air force have been mostly saved for Iran.

5) terrorists kill, that’s what they do…

American bombs kill as well. Even most precision munitions miss their targets. People are run over every time re-supply convoys come up from Kuwait.

6) terrorists are having a field day in Iraq

So is modern american weaponry and tactics which are poorly suited to a military occupation.

7) who happen to be volunteer soldiers committed to this fight;

Who depend on the political leadership to send them into battle only when it’s absolutely necessary.

8) See post 58. You don’t care about the soldiers except as dead soldiers – only as an illustration for your argument; the live soldiers you slander and accuse of murder and heap any kind of defamatory innuendo upon them – do don’t give me your dead soldier bit, bub.

The ugly rantings of an ugly mind. Soldiers are driven to commit atrocities in every war – that’s why war should be an absolute last resort. I’ve seen interviews with Iraq veterans expressing the opinion that the whole country should be carpet-bombed to “start over” “better that than a shithole”. I don’t condemn them in the least for that sentiment. I save my condemnation for the poor excuses for leaders who sent them there.

das @ 82

You call that a response? God…whoever is paying you, even if it is only a penny/hour, is paying too much. You are a fucking idiot!

93.

You have said nothing, you only attack.

If you voted for Bush because of some fantasy that you were fighting terrorism, you were wrong. If you voted in Washington, there was no great harm done. You were in the minority. If you voted in Iowa, New Mexico, or Ohio, go see a Priest.

He’ll give you absolution you won’t get here.

61

Don’t expect that idiot to know anything; he doesn’t read newspapers. Hell, he can’t even read the billboards.

64

D’Ass is all hat, no cattle. If he believes in the Iraq war, why doesn’t he enlist?

The real purpose of the Iraq war was to line the pockets of the GOP’s contractor friends.

correction to 103

Should read: What part of your thoughts and arguments did we fail to answer?

95

“Why would a wingnut (or incipient wingnut, assuming your claims are true) like you bother posting here?” Commentby dj— 6/25/06@ 11:36 pm

That’s a good question, and one worthy of a psychology study. D’Ass might make a good lab rat. We should hook some wires up to him and turn on the shock machine. Maybe he’s after cheese.

105

Seriously, turdfuck, do you really believe you can say the things you do about us liberals, and not get it dished back to you? Stow your crap about “hate,” you fuckers invented hate. We dish a little back, and you turn out to be a fucking crybaby. boo-hoo, cry me a river.

RR, Not a good night for you. Go to bed. Your “guvment” check will still come this week.

Nice try at 111. But isn’t it chickenshit to fake who you are? If you disagree with me, have the guts to sign your name to it (even if it is an alias).

Darcy Burner is in the spotlight now, on her own choosing. If she can’t be criticized, then she needs to get out now. Why does she need some lying ass like you defending her? Is her case so week? All I have asked is some meat to fill out a very thin resume. Can’t be done, because there isn’t any. She is a shallow dillantante, supported by wishful thinking in the dem party.

This is a leftwing blog, so I talk about the left wing candidates. When this becomes a rightwing blog talking about REichert, then we can all talk about his qualifications. I’m sure goldy has some last minute smear he is working on, because even he knows that darcy is weak and can’t make it by playing it straight.

You can speculate all day who I am and where I fit in the political picture. If spending that much time thinking about me makes you happy, then I have spread some sunshine into this world.

105

“Like I said, there is much much more anger here directed towards your beloved countrymen who disagree with you than with the jihad murderers who would gleefully cut your throats. I don’t understand that. It is a mystery.” Commentby das— 6/26/06@ 12:12 am

Well, duh. You need look no further than Newt Gingrich or Ann Coulter, for example. Your leaders have declared war on liberals. They call us “commies,” “traitors,” “unpatriotic,” etc. You stand up and cheer when Coulter says liberals should be put in “concentration camps” and “executed,” and liberal judges should be fed “rat poison.” And you wonder why we’re mad at you?

Sheesh.

Das, you are a gullible fucking fool. The kool-aid salesmen told you liberals are wimps, we’d just roll over, let you wipe your feet on us. Guess what, they lied. Your side fucked with us, so we’re fucking with you. Get used to it, because it’s not going away any time soon. War is hell. Our peace terms are unconditional surrender, and we reserve the right to execute your leaders.

112

“All I have asked is some meat to fill out a very thin resume. Can’t be done, because there isn’t any.”

Well Janet, I’m not “Janet SS,” but I think you’ve earned the parody you’re now getting by posting nonsensical pap like this.

“You can speculate all day who I am and where I fit in the political picture.” Commentby Janet S— 6/26/06@ 8:05 am

You flatter yourself. No speculation is necessary.

Janet S is a piece of crinkled tinfoil whose only function is to reflects sound waves from the neocon noise machine. She’s not even a good fuck.

Check out the Scotsman on Sunday (Scotland newspaper) for the scary article on 6 and 12-month waits for cancer treatment in UK. Single payer ain’t what you think it is. Don’t kid yourself.

“The increasing privatization of Australia’s health-care system has not meant a better bang for our buck,” said Dr. Jim Maher of the University of New England in New South Wales. “Instead, it has led to increasing complexity, higher costs and a two-tiered health system. The more we privatize, the deeper citizens have to dig into their own pockets.”

“What is remarkable,” said Dr. Patrick Dubreil, “is that two countries that are continents apart are seeing the same negative outcomes of privatization. Increasingly in France we have a health-care system that financially punishes the sick, particularly those with limited income.”

In 2002, 11.2 per cent of the French adult population reported they couldn’t get health care for financial reasons. French doctors are becoming big businessmen, Dr. Dubreil continued. Many now exact fat additional fees beyond a patient’s private insurance.

In Australia, which also has an official two-tier system, the cost of private health insurance is climbing by up to 20 per cent per year. Yet, just as in France, many private hospitals and doctors still impose additional “substantial” fees,” Dr. Maher said.

Stow it, Sound Crossin. “Tell it to the Marines!”

@ 126

Pretty much what I would expect. Not any rebuttal, dialogue, etc. Just shut up.

I like Coulter sometimes and don’t like her at other times. Haven’t read the book so can only comment on the BS I read in this thread. I did however see Bowling for Columbine and then did my due dilligance and researched what passed for “facts” in that work of fiction. Of course a great many of the items in that film were totally discredited, if not factually than for the errors in their context. Those errors completely obscuring the actual factual basis.

I don’t see that in this thread about Coulter’s book or in general. I see alot of crying about her calling people names or “being mean” to them but not a lot of rebuttal. I see a lot of name calling but come on … tear the book apart item by item or else do the right thing and withhold your assinine comments.

122

“Check out the Scotsman on Sunday (Scotland newspaper) for the scary article on 6 and 12-month waits for cancer treatment in UK. Single payer ain’t what you think it is. Don’t kid yourself.” Commentby Bunny— 6/26/06@ 9:47 am

How long do you think an American with no health insurance has to wait? “Forever” comes to mind. So does the phrase “eternal rest.”

127

“Roger – you are nothing but a bitter old man.”

Yeah, but at least I know that when somebody’s trying to drive an 18-wheeler up my ass, he’s trying to fuck me.

@129
Sorry don’t support the “Gay Haters” as you say. I actually support the same and equal rights for homosexual people. I am one of those people who, even though I consider myself a Christian I believe in your right to chose your own path. I would never force it down somebodies throat or expect them to conform to my beliefs. One of the reasons I speak out against that “Pastor” who shows up places with the gay hating signs. Nice try at a re-direct though.

134

You missed my point. You portrayed those people as liberals. They’re not — they’re rightwing freaks. Here — is this direct enough for you? — you’re a fucking liar.

D’Ass … question for ya, good buddy? Why should Republicans have a monopoly on irrationality and incivility? Isn’t there enough bad manners in this world for everyone to have some? What’s with you guys and your unwillingness to share? You creeps want a monopoly on every fucking thing.

D’Ass … how do you feel about Bush’s CUT AND RUN policy in Iraq? What do you think of giving AMNESTY to insurgents who killed Americans? When are you gonna figure out the GOP would sell YOU down the river in a heartbeat? They respect nothing, and they respect nobody. Least of all a shmuck nobody like you.

It’s hilarious when wingfucks lecture us about civility.

141

Let’s recap. “soundcrossing” posted @125: “Watched your ilk line up at funerals and lambast grieving parents of servicemen killed in action.”

I called BULLSHIT on this LIE. The entire country knows these protests are the handiwork of Rev. Fred Phelps and his cult of inbred morons (most of whom are related to him by bigamy or incestuous fornication), who are RIGHT WING NUTS.

So, I accurately call “soundcrossing” a fucking liar, which is exactly what he is, and now “soundcrossing” responds with blubbering, crying, and whining.

boo hoo hoo
boo hoo hoo

fucking crybaby

Oh, and before I forget, “soundcrossing” is a fucking liar, and a fucking crybaby too. He’s also a wimp who gets pushed around by an 11 1/8th-lb. rabbit.

@146 and wherever

And yet again. The “gay haters” don’t support and not sure where you got that. Was pretty clear about it too, but then you aren’t one to see that. Phelps is a complete idiot, I’ve done my research. His little clan that shows up with those signs are his family. That is his “Church”. Most of you won’t know that because your fucking media calls it a “Church” instead of “some whacko and his whacko family.” So there you have it. Way to smoke that MSM rope wabbit. Still want to hear about your explanation about the dickheads that want to protest/celebrate at our soldiers funerals.

interesting tht Roger thinks we shocked by his profanity when in reality we are shocked by his belief that his profanity is somehow effective…

It is hard to imagine the smallness of the warren rabbit dwells in…where fetor rules…

I’d like to hear from Sims if routes I ride are to get increased bus service under his proposal. Specifically will 56/57 and 174 be lines where service will become more frequent than two an hour? When making the connection between those routes now at S. 1st and S. Spokane, my wait time is most often twenty-five minutes.

Harry – Your time is worth nothing. What difference does it make? If your time was worth anything, you’d be driving an SUV like everybody else.

4

My time isn’t worth anything. I’m just waiting for humans to eat out their resource base and die off. Then I’m gonna rule the world!

Let’s compare Goldystein’s ratings with, say………Rush’s. [hehe] JCH

Goldy PLEASE every time you refer to Sheriff Davie, call him RUBBER STAMP REICHERT. We’d love for that to take hold!

And I am out of town so I can’t call in tonight but maybe you should let Darcy know that the best the right has to offer against her is that a woman’s place is in the home!

Leftturn – you are really tedious. But keep it up – if you actually come up with an original thought, no one will notice.

Goldy – are you offering free air time to Reichert? Seems to me that you are actively campaigning for darcy, and working with her to coordinate her campaign. But, no one is really listening at the hours you are on, so I guess there is no issue of this being a campaign contribution.

“Laptop With 13,000 D.C. Workers’ Data Stolen
“AP

“WASHINGTON (June 18) – A laptop containing the Social Security numbers and other personal data of 13,000 District of Columbia employees and retirees has been stolen, officials said.

“The computer was stolen Monday from the Washington home of an employee of ING U.S. Financial Services, said officials with the company, which administers the district’s retirement plan.

“The company did not notify city employees of the theft until late Friday because it took officials several days to determine what information was stored on the laptop, ING spokeswoman Caroline Campbell said.

“The laptop was not password-protected and the data was not encrypted, Campbell said.”

http://www.horsesass.org/my-co.....1&c=1

Privacy advocates’ worst fears are coming true. But it turns out that, as our privacy is stripped away and our right to keep even the most sensitive and intimate details of our lives away from public view is ignored, the greatest threat to our well-being is not from a dictatorial government, but from an army of petty thieves.

No matter how careful you are, your identity can be — and very likely will be — stolen. That’s because you are entirely at the mercy of careless strangers who don’t care about you.

Historical experience tells us what will work to stop the pandemic of identity theft and the misery it brings. We need tough prosecution and sentencing of identity thieves, and we need tough enforcement of individual rights via the tort system. A company so careless than it allows employees to take this kind of data home on a laptop should cease to exist, and everyone involved should be stripped of everything he owns.

Wabbit – I notice you’ve been throwing around the word “imperialist” lately. Do you know what that word means? Look it up. How are we imperialist? What country have we taken over and made part of Murka?

Fucking idiot…

Hey, is ass one of the words you can’t say on radio? Does it matter if you refer to a horse, or a slimy opportunist like Timmy?

It’s YOU Janet S who are tedious. And an idiot. First you demand equal time for Rubber Stamp Reichert. Then you claim no one is listening. Do you even try to make sense? And moreover, does it HURT to be so stupid?

In case any of you inbred righties don’t understand it, there is no equal time requirement. Your boy Ronnie Raygun saw to that.

And as Goldy says, he’d love to have Rubber Stamp Riechert on the show but like that lying piece of shit Timmy, he’s probably to cowardly to attend.

Mark the Thieving Redneck

“I notice you’ve been throwing around the word “imperialist” lately. Do you know what that word means? Look it up. How are we imperialist? What country have we taken over and made part of Murka?”

Ummmm….Mark, like your pretend understanding of statistics (i.e. your “chi-squared” analysis that you wanted someone to inappropriately apply to climiatological time series), I doubt you understand what the word “imperialist” means yourself.

You usually don’t know what the fuck you are talking about, or you rely on some wacked-out wingnut defintion to support your faux “arguments.”

Really, you are an idiot and a thief. Go away thief-boy–you are unwelcomed.

Mark the Thieving Redneck @ 23

“Geez, do I hafta tell you guys everything?”

No…asshole…you don’t; we would all prefer that you keep your fucking trap shut, since you have not demonstrated that you have any real insight into the science or economics of global warming.

I mean, why the fuck would we listen to you? You’re an idiot!

Hey DJ – How things down in Oly today? How’s that research going at a “major research institution”? LMAO… No, Bong U is NOT a major anything…

Shit…

And as Goldy says, he’d love to have Rubber Stamp Riechert on the show but like that lying piece of shit Timmy, he’s probably to cowardly to attend.

Commentby LeftTurn— 6/18/06@ 4:23 pm

Ahhhh. OK that enough LT. Let me zip up my pants already. Groupies. Geeez.

OK, Mark, the amoral jerk, from Science Magazine let’s try this again on climate change:

That hypothesis was tested by analyzing 928 abstracts, published in refereed scientific journals between 1993 and 2003, and listed in the ISI database with the keywords “climate change” (9).

The 928 papers were divided into six categories: explicit endorsement of the consensus position, evaluation of impacts, mitigation proposals, methods, paleoclimate analysis, and rejection of the consensus position. Of all the papers, 75% fell into the first three categories, either explicitly or implicitly accepting the consensus view; 25% dealt with methods or paleoclimate, taking no position on current anthropogenic climate change. Remarkably, none of the papers disagreed with the consensus position.

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/...../5702/1686

What’s your source? Surely not the 928 peer reviewed articles.

K, hold your fire. I went to see Gore’s movie last night, and I will admit that he makes some good points. I may be pretty smart, but I’m no so well trained in the hard sciences that I can categorically reject the findings of 928 peer-reviewed papers.

Where I come from we like to say that where there is smoke, there may very well be fire. The question is how much? I’m still thinking about that. Please be patient. This is new territory for me.

One of the most powerful moments in Gore’s movie was when he showed a graph displaying data that displayed the temperature and CO2 variations in Antartic ice over a 600,000 year period. The current temperatures, like the CO2 counts, are no longer within historical ranges. This is frankly alarming — and goes a long way toward explaining why major ice shelves have collapsed much faster than predicted. So I would concede that something is going on here.

Goldy….

Could you ask the councilman phillips if the fact that KC elections is running at only 70% staff will affect the effectiveness of implementing this NEW SYSTEM?

Thanks
Chris

Mark the Thieving Redneck @ 26

“DJ – Didja figure out what chi squared is yet? Tell me, are current temps within historical range or not? Just give me a yes or no.”

Sorry, Redneck, a Chi-square “analysis” is an inappropriate technique for this type of test. You are a fool.

On second thought…you are you a fucking moron.

Goldy

Please ask Ron if he votes at the Polls or Absentee?

Also ask Ron if no NEW personell or equipment will be needed. That it will be less cumbersome.. He seems to be implying/making that point.

I would like to hear his response.

Thankyou
Chris

Ron Simms sounds totally muffled! Dana from Carnation came through perfectly clear. This is bad..

Sharkansky’s arguments are totally bogus. What a fraud!

Polling places feeeeel good. Your neighbours SEE you! Just empty propaganda.

Vote by mail systems are as transparent and verifiable as concerned citizens want them to be.

Harry @ 45:
I must concede that both of those research outfits are highly credible when it comes to global warming research. I apologize for referring to the as Bong U.; they are anything but.

Hey Mark, if you can’t respond about peer review, you wouldn’t know a research institute if you bumped into one.

Funny I was checking around and couldn’t find a “Steffy” radio show. I guess USP isn’t as popular as HA! HE HE!

Chris the Stefan fan @ 51

I like polling place voting too. I’ve never voted by mail myself. But like Goldy I’m pragmatic and realize that vote by mail is very popular and if instituted would save the county money just like it has in other places.

If citizens are concerned and involved there is no threat from monkey business even if Republicans are running things.

Sharansky is a fear monger and a demagogue and his arguments are emotion-driven and bogus.

55 – Darcy Burner is NOT going to be a rubber stamp for George Bush and the corrupt DeLay/Hastert machine.

No need to ask Darcy what she’ll do for the 8th Goldy. We already know. She’ll make sure that it’s no longer a rubber stamp for Bush regime policy. That’s good enough for me. Besides, no matter what she says, the inbred righties will attack her.

Stefan sure has a greasy voice. He sounds like a bicycle wheel with too much WD-40 on it. No wonder he doesn’t have a show on KIRO!

Anyway, Stefan thinks poll voting is better than mail voting, but I don’t agree. Poll voting has its own problems, such as pollworkers walking off the job instead of following their supervisor’s instructions. I’ve worked as a pollworker twice now, and both times my polling place had problems with the machine the voters stick their ballots in.

But the real problem with our elections is the BAD FAITH of people who impugn the election process, slander elections administrators, and demand revotes if their candidate loses. Generally, these are the same people (or, at least, people of the same ideological persuasion) who try to win elections by keeping American citizens from voting in their own country, especially if they’re minorities.

Stefan talked about “trust.” Of course people won’t trust the elections process if partisan propagandists tell them the other side cheated when their candidate loses. My message to you, Stefan, is that if we’re ever gonna restore “trust” in elections, the first thing people have to do is stop lying about our elections. Get the hint?

Isn’t Steffy the regional director of the Log Cabin republicans?

While we’re discussing elections, I think it’s disgusting that GOP operatives challenged the votes of soldiers deployed to Iraq because they didn’t answer letters the GOP sent to their stateside homes, simply because they lived in heavily Democratic minority precincts.

I’m not making this up. It was reported by the BBC. http://www.gregpalast.com/mass.....o-soldiers

The GOP got caught because one of their people got sloppy and sent e-mails with incriminating attachments to a non-party address. The attachments included “caging lists,” i.e., lists of voters targeted for disenfranchisement.

If people like Stefan Sharkansky really cared about election reform and voting fraud, he would pick up this story on his blog and demand the GOP stop using such tactics. His dead silence on any cheating, gaming, or misconduct committed by the GOP exposes him as a partisan fraud. Stefan doesn’t really care about honest elections. He only cares about tarring any election the GOP doesn’t win.

Roger

I dont want to get into a pissing match with you, but do you think KC elections can do this without full staff?

delayed

K @ 69

By listening to both simss and phillips tonight on goldys show, they both implied they are VOTING tommorrow on it. Maybe Goldy can shed some light on this, or another listener.

I’ll admit I’m not listening- (Miami down by 2 in the 4th)but the fact they vote tomorrow was determined by the fact that the legislation was intorduced before Logan’s resignation. This is the statement posted by Sims on his site:

“As for the vote-by-mail transition proposal currently before Council, my staff and I will evaluate over the next few weeks how Dean’s decision to move on will affect the plan. With Dean’s departure, it may not be possible to implement the plan by the 2007 primary as originally envisioned,” Sims said.

No matter what KC does, the righties will attack and complain. That is their strategy. They have no hope so all they can do is make allegations and try to thwart the will of the people. And we should NOT allow it. We should NOT debate or discuss this. We should do what’s fair and fuck em if they don’t like it. Remember this, if the righties were in charge, they wouldn’t care one bit about fairness. They care ONLY about winning. God help us all if that ever happens here.

Chris- read what I posted. THe resignation was unexpected. They are evaluating how to proceed.

Leading up to the 2004 election, I read in the media that the U.S. as a whole had a shortfall of 500,000 pollworkers — that’s an average of 10,000 per state. Many of the senior citizens who did this work in the past, and have died or are now too old to do it anymore, can’t be replaced because the generations behind them are not willing to do this work. We are losing the generation that considered poll work a citizen duty, and the younger generations have different attitudes and values.

I worked at a polling place with several precincts, and we had one “inspector” and 6 “judges.” That’s 7 pollworkers who were each paid $9 an hour for 12 hours, or nearly $800. Only about 250 or so people came to the poll, and some of these just dropped off absentee ballots. So it costs King County taxpayers about $4 per voter to keep that polling place open. It serves around 30% of the people who vote, the rest vote by absentee.

We never hear the end of Republican bitching about taxes and paying for government services. If you guys want to spend $4 for every ballot cast in a polling place, then pay some fucking taxes for it.

Or maybe you think pollworkers should work for free?

Roger….

I am not saying that going VBM is a BAD THING. I just think it is best to put it off until the Elections Dept is at 100%. The system in place is common to all the people in elections now.

All I am saying is, Put it off for now. Make the Elections Dept a Solid department (say 12months from now) and then make the change. If we do it now, all hell will break loose.

Why not have a secret ballot of all the person’s working in the Elections dept now, Ask them if they could handle this change with the lack of management.

DJ @ 83

Did I strike a nerve??? Are you twitching???

84

“I am not saying that going VBM is a BAD THING. I just think it is best to put it off until the Elections Dept is at 100%.”

Isn’t that what Sims did? I heard in the news last week that VBM has been delayed until 2008 because of Logan’s departure.

Roger….

Both Phillips and Sims said tonight that it is being voted on tommorrow. Maybe Goldy can shed some light on this subject when he is done with his radio broadcast…

Any other listener’s hear ????

Goldstein,
Your show is too much “inside politics” and too partisan to interest me on an ongoing basis. And I’m a Democrat.

The truth is, almost all the fraud (dead voters, double voters–of which there are more than you think, based on research, the felon who voted straight from prison, illegal Fatal pends that got counted but shouldn’t have, according to Huennekens) that happened was in the mail ballots. KCE has not a good enough system of checks and balances yet for that. You can register out of a Mailpost store claim residence in a small box, and KCE will take it. Too much opportunity for fraud. We have the right NOT to be disenfranchised by illegal votes. Sigs are tough to match and Dow Constantine even commented they change daily. KCE has not provided requested info as needed.
Clean up your act, KCE, before you create even more messes.

We should get rid of all voting machines and go back to hand-counted paper ballots. The voter marks an “X” in a box on a piece of paper, and election workers from both parties count every ballot. This system is as foolproof as it’s possible to get. Is it labor intensive? Yes, but there’s plenty of senior citizens and other folks who need the paycheck. Is it expensive? Probably not as expensive as the voting machines nobody trusts. We don’t need to know by 8:15 PM on election night who won. It’s the media that pushes for that. The goal should not be to make the media happy, but to enable the public to feel confident of getting an honest election result. -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/18/06@ 8:56 pm

well damn rabbit…we agree! Another conservative hug for that pesky rabbit!

Seattle Man @ 97

“The other comment I’d like to make about your show is that it is obvious that you really don’’t know very much about local issues.”

What the fuck? If you want to discuss a non-election local issue, call the fucking show, don’t bitch about it here. I mean, Goldy scheduled discussion of the 8th CD race and KC elections issues, but the third hour is open to the whim of callers!

Call in and find out for yourself if Goldy understands local issues.

p.s. whatever you do, don’t ask about the school closure issue!!!!!

dj,
I’ll do any damn thing I want.
I am writing it here as constructive criticism which he can read later….don’t like it, too bad, fella.

Clueless @ 101

Is it a CRIME to visit????? Are you sympathetic to old ladies who need help crossing the crosswalk???

I am not parading any agenda here, just my opinion about KC Elections being poorly staffed…..

I havent been a cheerleader since 7th grade by the way, I CAN THINK for myself, thank you very much…..

This Petty Blog Bashing takes away from good discussion…..

One must not forget that Republicans’ support of war, killing and torturing civilians in other countries, and their opposition to family planning overseas that reduces population and starvation, and their opposition to things here at home like aid for the poor, public education, public health, and so on, goes far to offset any moral advantage the GOP might claim by reason of their pro-life stance on the abortion issue. Sadly, charges that Republicans only care about children until they’re born has way too much truth to it.

82.

I worked a polling place in Burien, and we were short two workers during the March election, so we had only five people to accept 110 ballots.

Five workers make $118.00 to handle 110 ballots, that 5.36 per ballot for labor.

A mailed in ballot costs about $0.20 in labor to be readied for tabulation.

The overhead costs are different, but not nearly enough different to make up for the $5.00 disparity in the initial handling.

Republicans sure like to spend the county money.

But until then, it’s not my fault that Republicans are unpatriotic America-hating fascists! I gotta play the hand I’m dealt.

NEWSWEEK: INFLATION THREAT GROWING

For months, I’ve been attacking Bush’s economic policies (especially deficit spending) as inflationary. This week, Newsweek economics columnist Robert J. Samuelson writes,

“We have an inflation problem that we need to cure before it gets worse. … Inflation … is clearly rising. … In the past three months, the increase in the CPI on an annualized basis (projected for a year) is 5.7 percent.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13...../newsweek/

Chris @ 102

“I am not parading any agenda here, just my opinion about KC Elections being poorly staffed…..”

Perhaps, but you are badly misinformed by your “other reading habit.” Sharkansky choses to use atypical “case studies” to evoke emotional responses from his readers, rather than providing objective quantitative analyses. The result is a very biased view of the KC elections process.

In other words, you’ve been sucked in.

There are actually two kinds of inflation, monetary inflation and structural inflation. Bush’s deficit spending and the Federal Reserve’s easy-credit policies are creating monetary inflation. What makes these policies especially dangerous is that we have structural inflation in the form of permanently higher oil prices.

The economic growth and rising living standards of the last 100 years is attributable in major part to the substitution of cheap oil for more expensive and less efficient energy sources such as coal. But as with any natural resource, the cheapest supplies of oil were the first used, and while they’re not yet used up , the cheap sources can no longer supply world demand, and we’re now consuming a mixture of Saudi oil that costs $2.50 a barrel to produce and more expensive oils, such as arctic oil and Canadian tar sands oil that costs up to $20 a barrel to produce. This situation will only get worse as the world’s aging supergiant fields, the source of cheap oil, dry up and the proportion of expensive oil in the overall supply increases.

In other words, the rising productivity and living standards of the last century were the upslope of a bell shaped curve, and we’re now on the downslope of that curve. Unless we can overcome the rising real cost of oil with conservation and technology, living standards and real incomes in energy-intensive First World economies not only will stop rising but will fall.

Inflation is the mechanism that will devalue our incomes and reduce our wealth. Higher real energy prices will spread through the entire economy, raising the price of virtually everything. Because businesses will face higher real costs, they will not be able to compensate their workers for higher nominal prices by raising wages. Prices will rise faster than incomes and the real standard of living will decline.

Because we are entering a period of rising real energy costs, it is sheer madness to layer monetary inflation on top of it. Bush’s deficit-financed tax cuts are flooding the economy with devalued currency, and are stimulating the economy when it needs to be slowed. The Federal Reserve will have to raise interest rates to counteract the stimulative effect of Bush’s cheap money. If it doesn’t, inflation will explode into double digits as we saw in the wake of the deficit-financed Vietnam War, to be followed by double-digit interest rates and the double-digit unemployment that racked our nation during the Reagan Depression of 1982-1983.

The inflation caused by rising real energy costs is a big enough monster by itself without asking for more trouble by indulging in monetary inflationary. Bush’s economic policies are folly, and we will pay dearly for his deceptively alluring tax cuts and deficit budgets.

Thanks for your support on mail voting only. Since you don’t know who actually fills out a mail ballot, and since corporate fascists have plenty of money, we ought to be able to buy enough votes to stay in power. I have long suspected that some of the votes we paid for weren’t actually cast in the voting booth; this way we can look at the vote before we pay for it.

HEY dJ ARE YOU SHARING THE AIRPLANE GLUE WITH YOUR BUDS.REMEMBER TO TAKE A GOOD SUCK.OH THATS RIGHT YOUR GOOD AT SUCKING.LOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSER

ENOUGH ALREADY @ 118

“dj IS PISSED OF BECAUSE HE JUST FOUND OUT THAT HIS BROTHER IS HIS DAD”

Yes, but what better day to learn this than father’s day.

Ok…show over, EA, go back to hating yourself….

YO @ 119

Scene: a fish-like chromosomal abnormality raises it silvery head and squeaks out:

“HEY dJ ARE YOU SHARING THE AIRPLANE GLUE WITH YOUR BUDS.REMEMBER TO TAKE A GOOD SUCK.OH THATS RIGHT YOUR GOOD AT SUCKING.LOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSER”

Awwwwww…YO…you are still hanging in there. YO is normally a lethal anuploidy, but our own little horsesass.org YO has been hanging tough. He may look like a fish and have the IQ of a fish scale, but he is ours…all ours.

Hang tough, little fella. We love you.

Prof. Jared Diamond, in his book “Collapse,” analyzes examples of ancient and contemporary societal collapses. His striking conclusion is that in these cases, environmental degradation was the cause of economic collapses that led to poverty, depopulation, and social unrest.

Environmental degradation takes many forms, the most serious of which is deforestation. But soil erosion and salinization, water pollution, and overexploitation of food sources also play a role in rendering human habitats uninhabitable.

It is now believed, for example, that the American Southwest’s cliff dwelling communities were abandoned because of deforestation and soil erosion that rendered the surrounding land incapable of producing adequate food supplies.

Easter Island is perhaps the world’s best example of a microcosm human society. This island was merely the remotest and last of the Pacific islands to be colonized by peoples who originated from the Asian mainland. After a few centuries of human occupation, Easter Island was denuded of the large trees required to make the ocean-going canoes that got the original settlers to the island in the first place, and from then on, Easter Island’s native population was totally isolated from the rest of the world and completely deprived of the ability to obtain by trade any needed materials or goods not available on the island itself, until the arrival of European sailing ships in the late 1700s. By then, the island’s overexploited environment had already collapsed, and the European explorers found only remnant survivors of what was once a populous and thriving civilization.

Easter Island was completely denuded of trees, and subsequently lost nearly all of its native birds and animal species. When canoe-making wood became unavailable, the islanders lost access to most of the fish species they had been living on. Of course, they also ate all of the terrestrial fauna. When the end came, the only meat available to them was rats.

Easter Island is a windy place, and once the island was stripped of its trees, it also was stripped of its soils, and the settlers’ agriculture collapsed. The island ultimately suffered an extreme population crash, from an estimated 30,000 humans to a little over 100.

Republicans scoff at environmentalists as alarmists, and respond to arguments that we must manage our resources for sustainability with hostility. The world and all of humanity are merely a macrocosm of Easter Island. Planet Earth is our capital, and if we eat our capital, the end result will be human extinction or at least a human population crash, accompanied by a drastic decline in living standards. We cannot cut our forests faster than they regrow without ultimately deforesting our continent and losing our wood resources. We cannot pump water out of underground aquifers faster than they recharge without drying up the aquifer and ending up with no water supply. We cannot extract nutrients from the soil faster than we put them back in without ultimately bankrupting the soil’s ability to grow useful crops. We cannot overfish the world’s fisheries without destroying them.

Jared argues that First World consumption cannot be sustained. But we live in a world in which Third World populations aspire to First World living standards. The trend is toward increasing, not stable or decreasing, human impact on the planet’s resources.

Jared also points out that collapses occur very quickly. A human society that took centuries or millenia to reach its peak population and consumption of resources can collapse in as little as 10 to 20 years. The trajectory of environmental overexploitation and resource exhaustion is not a symmetrical bell-shaped curve; it is a gradual upward climb followed by a vertical plunge.

Wingnuts may be right about one thing: If we follow their stupid environmental policies, the end of the world could be just around the corner.

I am not impressed with Darcy Burner. Too cowardly to pledge to bring the troops home now. If she get elected, she will join all the other cogs in the war machine. The blood of all those people yet to die in the imperialistic aggression will be on the hands of those that vote for her.

Liked the show tonight. Glad I don’t have to make a decision whether or not to vote for Darcy. She’s a little on the lightweight side . . . just doesn’t have the conviction in her voice, or sound like she has the maturity to stand up to the big guys. I don’t know. I wasn’t impressed. Sort of like she was running for president of the senior class.

Liked the hour with Sims and Philips because you let them talk a lot. I like hearing what guests have to say. So many hosts try to be starts themselves. You listen very well. Same thing with Connelly. He sounded a little put out at first but came around. Also, thanks again for letting people who call in finish their sentences/thoughts. Well done.

Finally, the blogging hour was so-so. Keep it from being too inside – too much neighborliness. Make it more informative. Net neutrality would have been a great issue. Or bloggers with a little more passion for the topic. Pike Place guy was more interesting. What is wrong with women . . . why do they always have to come across as cute. Molly needs more passion.

Well, that’s my review of your program tonight, Goldy. And since I’m a media consultant in disguise, you should listen to me. (not) (LOL)

skagit:

Is it that, for you, women seem to have a “passion deficit”? I think Mollie did pretty well, considering that it was only our second time on radio (at least for me).

As for Darcy Burner, she’s not some firebrand crazy person. She’s competant and fair, and doesn’t take marching orders from anyone (unlike the Sheriff).

What is wrong with women . . . why do they always have to come across as cute?

Why does Mollie come across as cute? Maybe because she IS cute. But thanks for the compliment.

I was talking about Mollie above. As for Darcy, time will tell.

Rubberstamp Reichert

I’m voting for anyone with a D. in front of their name. Republicans can go take a hike over a scenic cliff that they just sold to cover some of the interest on the debt they’ve incurred in our name.

Republicans have learned how to get elected by playing on people’s prejudices but most Americans are on to that game. Republican equals irresponsibility and incompetence in the minds of the majority of Americans.

Yeah, I know you wingfucks like certainty – you’d rather be dead wrong than a little indecisive. -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 6/19/06@ 11:28 am

Actually rabbit, there was an editorial about that very thing today in WND. (I know, I know…ewww right wing, blah, blah, blah,…just don’t go there, the riff is stale.)

You answer my fucking question, what is your source for disputing climate change?

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K: Canadian Free Press already answered it last week. When For the Cluesless tried to call the person on it, he put forth those lefties who advertise on the site.

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Is there no one who has the courage to act to stop this insanity? Or is the intoxicating effect of power so alluring as to anesthetize the conscience?

Is it too much to ask that any politician asking for your vote publicly say what they shall do and publicly do what they say? Or has our humanity taken second seat to our zeal to win at all costs, even our soul?

“Progressive” @ 142

“The most important issue of the day and she didn’t say one word. Tells me a lot.”

Hey, asshole, if you didn’t call in and ask a question, then quit ya bitching. Sheesh…why do you expect other people to do YOUR fucking research?

“That is a fucking red herring. I never advocated anyone voting for him. But what does it gain us to put in a puppet that will go along with the Reicherts out there?”

What the fuck are you talking about? Puppet of Reichert???? That is your impression of Darcy? If so, you’re fucking daffy.

“In Germany, the Nazi’s were able to aminain control nto because they had soldiers to keep the people in line, but because they had passive people who, while didn’t advocate killing the jews, they didn’t oppose it with all their being either.”

Yes…indeed…looney and babbling. I think you need to get to know Darcy…I am certain you will be pleasantly surprised.

“Lack of full on opposition amounts to tacit cooperation with the war machine.”

Ummmm…no…not unless you are whacked out at one end of the ideological spectrum or the other. Your statement amounts to saying that the only solution is a revolution. And, that ain’t going to happen. If you are unwilling to work within the political system (i.e. by voting and using your freedom of expression to effectively convince lawmakers and other citizens to change their views, enact change, and put better electeds in office) then you are, in effect, doing nothing at all.

“Is she is so ashamed to even talk about taking a stand, how can I trust that once she gets in she will take a stand? She seems to be even afraid to talk about opposing the war.”

Ummm…no, I think she just did not have the opportunity. Again, I have heard her speak on the topic of Bush’s blunder. I think most left-leaning folks would strongly approve of her stances. But, since the topic did not come up in 15 minutes of airtime, you are dismissing her as a “Reichert puppet?” If so you are a fucking fool. If you really need to know her stances, why not contact her campaign and get a statement from them? Or show up at one of her public events and ask her? She is very approachable.

“You call it pragmatic, I call it not being true to your beliefs. I would rather lose on principle than win on “pragmatism”.”

The difference is that I prefer to WIN. I mean, idealism is great, and communicating idealistic positions is an important part of political speech for persuasion of electeds and citizens. But, idealism has minimal place at the ballot box (in our electoral system, anyway), where elections almost always come down to run-offs between two people. One of those people will pursue goals more in line with your thinking, one will not. In November, either Darcy Burner or Dave Reichert will win. If Darcy wins she will pursue a progressive agenda. If Reichert wins he will continue being a tool of the PNAC Wingnuts. If you want progressive change, help put Darcy in office. It is as simple as that.

“Your “pragmatism” helped get us into this damn war in the first place.”

No…I believe the assholes who voted for Bush and Nader got us into this war. Are you one of those assholes who voted for Nader, “progressive?”

“Frankly, if this country is going to be an rogue nation in the world’s eyes, I’d rather progressives not be associated with it in any way.”

Oh…now THERE’S a practical suggestion. (NOT!)

“If no politician has the courage to take a stand then this damn war will continue on and on and on.”

Agreed…but the way that is going to happen through the electoral process is FIRST to get rid of the Wingnut majority in one or both chambers of congress.

“And while you sit at home, comfortable in your “pragmatism” innocent people are being blown to bits.”

Nope…I am actually very active on a number of fronts in getting rid of the Wingnuts and protesting the war. You, on the other hand, seem to be bitching and launching into hyperbole that has nothing PRACTICAL to offer. Have you been raising funds for “your” candidates? Have you been donating your own money to get someone better elected? Have you been using your creative skills to get a progressive message out to the masses? (I’ve been working on all of these fronts.)

“Congratulations on your being liberal and not progressive. “

Why thank you. Although, as I mentioned before I am progressive on some issues and less so on others.

“When the final history is written and the last body counted, liberals and conservatives alike will bear the burden of the hundreds of thousands who have ben destroyed.”

I strongly suspect you are wrong. History will largely blame the Bush administration and the PNAC Wingnuts for misleading the American people and the Congress in something of a 9/11-induced witch-hunt. History will recognize BushCo as pursuing a disastrously naive invasion of Iraq. With any luck, history will record trials in The Hague, conviction and execution of Bush and his top aids for crimes against humanity. But, don’t hold your breath on that last one.

In closing Mr./Ms. Progressive, your ideas seem so whacked out that it is difficult to tell whether you are genuine (albeit naive) progressive or whether you are a wingnut shill.

145 – “dj”

“Hey, asshole, if you didn’t call in and ask a question, then quit ya bitching. Sheesh…why do you expect other people to do YOUR fucking research?”

I tried to call in but I only had a cell phone. I am on the road a lot for my work.

I heard Gregoire tell Bush to bring the troops home. I haven’t heard anything out of Darcy’s campaign that even comes close.

“What the fuck are you talking about? Puppet of Reichert???? That is your impression of Darcy? If so, you’re fucking daffy.”

What in the hell do you call all the Democrats “Liberals” who voted for the god damn war asshole? The loyal opposition? I call them motherfucking warmonger puppets. I could care less what the hell the letter is after their name. Did it matter to the dead jews in Germany if it was the Gestapo or the SS that lit the match for the ovens? The motherfuckers were still dead you moron.

“No…I believe the assholes who voted for Bush and Nader got us into this war. Are you one of those assholes who voted for Nader, “progressive?””

Only assholes who sent the people that voted for the war are responsable. Did you vote for one of them? My vote for Nader was a vote for principle. The damn D or R, who gives a fuck if the outcome is the same?

We trusted those motherfucker Democrats to oppose Bush. Instead they all got down on their knees and polished his motherfucking knob! I call that whoring bitch. And if you aren’t willing to make sure that the person you vote for is iron clad set to stop this fucking war, then you are just as responsible for it.

Well you “protested” isn’t that sweet. I bet you got your picture on TV so mommy could say “Look, there is my little Dick Job right there! “. Meanwhile ten Iraqi kids just got all of the innards blown out like confetti. But I guess as long as Dick Job “Feels Good” it is OK huh?

“If Darcy wins she will pursue a progressive agenda.”

Now how do you know that for sure? All those people that voted for the Democrats that said THEY would persue a progressive agenda and turned around and voted for that fucking war.

All I really want is for her to publicly sign a pledge stating she will filibuster if necessary to end the war. Think about it. If she filibusters, the war machine grinds to a halt. No money, no bullets no war. You act like I am asking for a left nut or something. All I want is proof before I hand over my support.

You can go here to see who voted for the Iraq War:
http://www.senate.gov/legislat.....vote=00237

Cantwell voted for it. She has blood on her hands. I want to make sure we do not get another Cantwell. If I vote for Dacry Burner and she pulls a Cantwell, then I am just as guilty as if I had voted for Reichert, now aren’t I?

Consoling ones self because they voted Democrat isn’t going to put those little Iraqi kids back together.

If it is too much for Darcy Burner to publicly pledge to filibuster the war until the machine comes to a grinding halt, then she isn’t worthy of progressive voters.

What a Babe!

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