If you’re not doing anything tonight, come on down to the Seattle Follies at Town Hall, and watch me and KUOW’s John Moe duke it out in a post-election political boxing match. Seattle City Councilwoman Sally Clark hosts, 7:30 PM, $15 at the door. More info…
RightEqualsStupid spews:
There’s a 12.9 % chance that Dino Rossi, Mike McGavick, Pam Roach and Steffy the Shark are gay!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ys16m.html
Proud to be an Ass spews:
I’ll take a rain check, Goldy. Go get ’em.
GBS spews:
Little help for reservists who lose their jobs
Some have trouble getting their jobs back, but few seek government
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15754186/
Nice headline, huh?
Just gotta love those conservative business owners who enjoy Bush’s tax cuts and “say” they support the troops who go out and defend America for them, but say HELL NO to getting your fucking jobs back when you return from combat.
Typical.
GBS spews:
correx to 3:
Should say “seek government help.“
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
Here’s some inconvenience for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wth_p4p0rfY
It’s showing tonight in Seattle. Will you moonbats be going to protest? Or maybe make the case that the sun has NOTHING to do with global warming?
Hey, anybody have any luck with chi squared lately?
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
How many of you think Chicken Neck should step down after stepping on her dick in her first major move? Why would she support a criminal to be leader?
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
Shows just how out of touch a san francisco librul is…
proud leftist spews:
Hey Redneck,
You don’t even believe in simple constitutional concepts like due process, do you? You know, concepts basic to American jurisprudence like notice, an opportunity to be heard, right to counsel, right to be tried by a jury of one’s peers? You know, those concepts we fought the War of Independence to establish? You convict Murtha of stale, unsubstantiated charges that never even brought an indictment. Your obsession with calling him a criminal makes you look even more foolish than ever. Good God, you’ve chi squared your foolishness. Congratulations, you insignificant twerp.
Living in the 8th spews:
I have just THREE words for “I didn’t win because I’m a woman and they discriminated against me” Darcy Burner:
CONGRESSWOMAN Jennifer Dunn
Roger Rabbit spews:
GBS says: Just gotta love those conservative business owners who enjoy Bush’s tax cuts and “say” they support the troops … but say HELL NO to getting your fucking jobs back …. Typical. 11/16/2006 at 4:52 pm
They didn’t give to http://www.operation-helmet.org/ either.
Roger Rabbit spews:
9 How’s it feel to be represented by somebody who belongs to the minority party, has no power, can’t bring money to the district, and is totally irrelevant?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Redneck pay your gambling debt, you fucking welsher.
Roger Rabbit spews:
GBS says: “Little help for reservists … some have trouble getting their jobs back, but few seek government” 11/16/2006 at 4:52 pm
Bush bureaucrat replies, “‘There’s not a problem here,’ says ESGR’s Bob Hollingsworth. ‘What I see is some people don’t call us and give us an opportunity to support them.'”
Roger Rabbit Comment: Move along folks, nothing to see here.
Don Joe spews:
“Living in the 8th”
No, that’s not why Darcy Burner lost. Darcy Burner lost, because the 8th CD has a lot of people whose most effective mode of argumentation requires erecting straw men like the notion that Darcy Burner blamed her loss on discrimination.
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
This oughta be good…a
socialist mooslim vaginocracy
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
This certainly explains a lot:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ys16m.html
No wonder Seattle is such a fucked up shithole.
Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:
Shouldn’t the queen ask The People if we’d like our fucking money back?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....nue16.html
Don Joe spews:
Welching misongynist, clearly you’ve never played with a magnifying glass on a sunny day.
And pay your gambling debt, asshole.
Roger Rabbit spews:
17 Mark The Redneck KENNEDY says: “Shouldn’t the queen ask The People if we’d like our fucking money back?” 11/16/2006 at 6:30 pm
No refunds! If you don’t like it, move to the Republican paradise in Mississippi. Need any help packing?
YOS LIB BRO spews:
MTR, YOU BE A SERIAL LOSER, LOST YOUR BET AND WELSHED ON IT, LOST YOUR HOPES FOR THE ELECTION, NOW YOU’VE GOT A INCHOATE RAGE. YOU’RE HOMOPHOBIC BUT YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME LATENT HOMOSEXUAL TENDENCIES GIVEN YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT MAN ON MAN ANAL SEX.
YOU’RE A SAD EXCUSE FOR A MAN. ANGRY, BITTER, NARCISSISTIC, SELFISH, MYSOGINISTIC AND HAUNTED BY RIGHT WING DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR.
PAY YOUR GAMBLING DEBT IF YOU WANT TO SALVAGE ANY FUTURE FOR YOURSELF.
K spews:
@17
Hey MTR, since the Dem’s are running the state, and the state is running a surplus, they must not be scaring away all the revenue producers.
Now let’s look at what the R’s have done nationally in the way of building a surplus…………
RightEqualsStupid spews:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15757447/from/RS.4/
More rethugs going to jail. At this rate we’ll need many more prison beds.
Moral majority my assssss!
ABBA spews:
RightEqualsStupid says:
There’s a 12.9 % chance that Dino Rossi, Mike McGavick, Pam Roach and Steffy the Shark are gay!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c om/html/localnews/2003432940_g ays16m.html
As opposed to a 100% that you and Goldstein are gay, you pansy-assed fruitcake!
headless lucy spews:
Just checking something out.
headless lucy spews:
What Democrats need to do is some AGGRESSIVE REDISTRICTING.
headless lucy spews:
NEW
headless lucy spews:
re 23: The only thing gayer than the highschool chess club was listening to ABBA.
Yer Killin Me spews:
23
Anybody but me notice the irony of someone who uses ABBA for a screen name accusing somebody else of being gay?
headless lucy spews:
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com
CarlBallard spews:
D’oh! Forgot again. But on the other hand, I did get to do some laundry. So I’m not wearing jeans to work.
klake spews:
Yeh we want the “Plan” Now
This is just too fun to watch without laughing
Plan! The Plan!
?
Comment by GS— 11/15/06@ 8:02 pm
Le Pan cut and run!!!!!
Surrender to the Terrorist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Send Roger to Iraq to win the war!!!!!!!!!!
There is no plan, and they plan to have no PLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
If they had a PLAN the enemy would wipe their silly ass all over the desert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH your Muslim Friends that you all for the Great War support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please send your money to Jimmy McDermott!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Abba'sMom'sAWhore spews:
Too bad Abba was raised by a slut like me – I was a terrible mother.
RightEqualsStupid spews:
Hey today Baby Bush did something he was too afraid to do 30+ years ago – that is go to Nam!
Fucking coward!
klake spews:
Sorry about posting the whole article but it come off a secure website which you cannot access. Different point of VIEW on what the challenges we face in Iraq. Working on a new plan for Iraq, but not done by the democrats.
11/16/2006 – WASHINGTON — Failure of the coalition and Iraqi government to create a unified, peaceful Iraq would be catastrophic for that country and the region, and would embolden terrorists throughout the world, the directors of the Central Intelligence Agency and Defense Intelligence Agency said here Nov. 15.
Testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Gen. Michael V. Hayden, director of the CIA, and Army Lt. Gen. Michael D. Maples, director of the DIA, said that the coalition presence in Iraq is what’s keeping the country together, and an early withdrawal would cause a significant rise in violence.
“We are all acutely aware that Iraq today is far from peaceful,” General Hayden said during his testimony. “Let me say that no single narrative is sufficient to explain all the violence we see in Iraq today. There remains in Iraq today an active insurgency. There remains in Iraq today a broad and vicious al Qaeda offensive targeting us and innocent Iraqis. In Iraq today there is criminality and lawlessness on a broad scale. In Iraq today there are rival militias competing for power.”
The conflict in Iraq has shifted to become increasingly a sectarian struggle for power, General Maples said. The perception of unchecked violence in Iraq has created an environment of fear and divisiveness, which empowers militias and decreases confidence in government forces, he said.
The only way to deal with the problem of sectarian violence is for the Iraqi government to unite and create a non-sectarian security force and work on national reconciliation, both generals agreed.
“I believe that, in fact, the parties have to be brought together and it has to be a political approach,” General Maples said. “And the government of Iraq has to be in the lead in doing that.”
Enabling Iraq’s leaders to be successful is one responsibility of the coalition, General Maples said, but the coalition must also be forceful with the government and make its expectations known. General Hayden pointed out that the new Iraqi leaders face a complex challenge, as they are all being asked to overcome their personal histories and work together to reach compromises.
“It’s going to require, as General Maples suggests, all the tools we have to motivate them to make decisions that are clearly in their best interest for the long term,” General Hayden said.
The situation in Iraq is grave, and al Qaeda has capitalized on the sectarian environment to increase its attacks, but there are still opportunities for success, the generals both said. An overwhelming majority of Iraqis want to live in peace, General Hayden said, and there have been positive improvements.
The recent verdict against Saddam Hussein, government efforts to move along the de-Baathification process, increased cooperation between Sunni tribes and the Anbar government, and arrest warrants for Ministry of Interior personnel accused of abuses are all signs of progress, General Maples said. The Iraqi security forces also continue to grow and develop capability, he said.
Despite the differences that still separate them, the different factions of Iraqi society did work together to create a constitution that provides the structure for them to settle their differences, General Hayden noted. Iraqi leaders from all factions need to cooperate and fill out the government to fulfill the intent of that document, he said.
Although ultimately, victory in Iraq will have an Iraqi face, not an American face, the coalition presence is still vital right now to ensure stability, the generals said. Withdrawing U.S. troops now would only cause a rise in violence and embolden terrorists throughout the region, they said.
“Failure in Iraq — failure to create a viable Iraqi state — I think, would embolden the worst of our enemies, certainly al Qaeda,” General Hayden said. “It would provide them with a safe haven rivaling the one they had in Afghanistan prior to October of 2001. I think it would also embolden other adversaries in the region, particularly Iran, whom I would suggest to you right now, not totally warranted, seems to be conducting a foreign policy with a feeling of almost dangerous triumphalism. And I think that would make that even worse.”
Yer Killin Me spews:
What’s the difference between Iraq and Vietnam?
George Bush had a plan for getting out of Vietnam.
proud to be an Ass spews:
klake,
Answer this, yes or no, under the current policy are we winning the war in Iraq, yes or no? Answer the question or shut the fuck up.
Yer Killin Me spews:
30
And what’s wrong with wearing jeans to work? I do it all the time. One of the perks of the software industry.
proud to be an Ass spews:
Goldy–I like the change. I was able to cruise by all of vagina lips’ comments effortlessly. Way to go.
headless lucy spews:
Jules Carlysle Says Our President Is a ‘Dumbass’! – A BuzzFlash Interview
Submitted by BuzzFlash on Mon, 11/13/2006 – 5:00pm. Interviews
A BUZZFLASH INTERVIEW
“I think they elected him because they thought he’d be someone they could manipulate. But Bush genuinely feels like he was elected to govern.” — Jules Carlysle, Author of DUMBASS
Click on Lucy’s name to go to ,DUMBASS, interview.
klake spews:
proud to be an Ass says:
klake,
Answer this, yes or no, under the current policy are we winning the war in Iraq, yes or no? Answer the question or shut the fuck up.
11/16/2006 at 9:41 pm
yes
klake spews:
I see Seattle has made the news headlins all over the country and something to be proud about today.
The FOX News’ Hannity & Colmes show covered the behavior of some WSU professors and their “hate speech” targeting students during a peaceful demonstration on border security on the campus Nov. 2. Professor John Streamas called a student a “white (expletive)-bag, and referred to former Secretary of State Colin Powell as “Bush’s house slave.”
Dan Ryder, Eastern Vice Chairman of the Washington College Republican Federation and a WSU student, has filed a complaint with the University’s Center for Human Rights. An interview with the Center’s staff is scheduled for Friday, Nov. 17.
“Taxpayers support academics not some professor’s hate speech. You cannot be a public supported scholar and engage in this type of behavior,” said WSRP Chairman Diane Tebelius. “Professor Streamas has proven that he is unfit to teach students. If the University does not take strong action, it proves that there are different standards applied to students who hold certain political views and that hate speech by sitting professors is acceptable if students don’t share their political views.”
“This type of hate speech is no different than what former professor Ward Churchill said at the University of Colorado when he likened the victims of the World Trade Center attack to Nazi sympathizers,” said Tebelius, “and Ward Churchill no longer has a taxpayer supported job.”
Dan Ryder said the confrontation happened during a demonstration sponsored by the WSU College Republicans on the Glenn Terrell Mall on campus. A chain-link fence had been erected, in Ryder’s words, “as a way to dramatize the issue of border security and national sovereignty.” It was during the demonstration that professors from the Comparative Ethnic Studies Dept. confronted the students including Streamas and Professor David Leonard. Leonard demanded the student identification number from a student who was filming the demonstration, but the student refused.
Don Joe spews:
Damn, k-lake, what, on earth, does the word “losing” mean to you?
headless lucy spews:
klake: There are high tech military observation balloons all along the Mexican border. They’ve been there for 15 years or more. They cover the whole border all the way across. They can read the labels on the jeans the illegals are wearing as they cross the border. This whole thing is more disinformation and pre fab BS from the government.
klake spews:
headless lucy says:
klake: There are high tech military observation balloons all along the Mexican border. They’ve been there for 15 years or more. They cover the whole border all the way across. They can read the labels on the jeans the illegals are wearing as they cross the border. This whole thing is more disinformation and pre fab BS from the government.
Lucy tell us about the little green men in suits and have funny ears. We have not use observation balloons in years, but you might be seeing some today in Salem, Oregon.
Don Joe spews:
“I see Seattle has made the news headlins all over the country and something to be proud about today.”
Um. WSU isn’t in Seattle. In fact, it’s not even in King County. WSU is almost directly south of Spokane.
By the way, you can find a video of the exchange on the internet if you know how to use a search engine. Amazing how the video managed to not capture any of this alleged hate speech (and the version I found was posted on a conservative blogger’s web site).
Yer Killin Me spews:
42
Forget trying to get an answer to that question, he apparently doesn’t have any idea of what the word “winning” means or he wouldn’t have answered “yes.”
klake spews:
Don Joe says:
Damn, k-lake, what, on earth, does the word “losing” mean to you?
11/16/2006 at 10:11 pm
(Losing to fail to see, hear, or understand. To fail to win.) Joe you lack the understanding of our enemies to know when we are winning or losing this conflict. You fail to see the vision by which we are engaging the enemy to see we are wining this conflict. You are close minded and in constant babbling to hear those who are fighting this war that they are telling you we are winning.
klake spews:
Yer Killin Me says:
42
Forget trying to get an answer to that question, he apparently doesn’t have any idea of what the word “winning” means or he wouldn’t have answered “yes.”
11/16/2006 at 10:29 pm
You have Received my answer but you lack the ability to understand or comprehend the meaning on how to win a prolong conflict.YOS LIB BRO spews:
to hear those who are fighting this war that they are telling you we are winning.
KLAKE, ARE YOU DOING YOUR JOE LIEBERMAN IMITATION, “JUST ANOTHER SIX MONTHS”, “JUST AROUND THE NEXT BEND”?
WHAT’S YOUR ESTIMATE KLAKE? I’M ALL EARS.
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE BEEN TOLD 4 TO 6 MONTHS, INSURGENCY IS IN ITS LAST THROES?
WELL I THINK I KNOW WHEN THIS WAR’S GONNA END! HOW ABOUT 6 MONTHS BEFORE THE 2008 ELECTION? SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT TO ME! WHAT SAY YOU FLAKEY KLAKE?
Yer Killin Me spews:
Hey, I’m not the one who thinks sending an inadequate number of soldiers, with inadequate equipment, into the middle of a bloody civil war where they wouldn’t be able to tell friend from foe if they had any friends, and the sole no-bid government contractor is skimming war profits off the top and graft out of the middle, constitutes winning.
Don Joe spews:
“(Losing to fail to see, hear, or understand. To fail to win.) Joe you lack the understanding of our enemies to know when we are winning or losing this conflict.”
That’s a bullshit answer. If I fail to understand something, then explain it to me. Your failure to explain it means that you are the one lacking understanding.
“You fail to see the vision by which we are engaging the enemy to see we are wining this conflict. You are close minded and in constant babbling to hear those who are fighting this war that they are telling you we are winning.”
Well, that’s odd, because the generals testifying before Congress said that things were getting worse in Iraq, not better. Who’s lying, k-lake?
Seems to me that the only “babbling” going on is the babbling of someone who quotes a common and vague dictionary definition for a word rather than trying to define what that word means in terms of facts on the ground.
Yer Killin Me spews:
Oh, and by the way, posting stuff in bold doesn’t make it any truer than posting it unbolded.
And being unable to use the word “prolonged” properly doesn’t help your cause.
No wonder you crossed out your answer.
A concerned Democrat spews:
I hope my party is smart enough to invoke the fairness doctrine. We can not afford the right wing talking heads to run their mouths once we get hit by a terrorist attack. We need to stay on offense and never have to play defense.
Roger Rabbit spews:
REDNECK’S WORST NIGHTMARE
15 Mark The Redneck KENNEDY says: … a
socialist mooslim vaginocracy — 11/16/2006 at 6:22 pm
That’s a tall order to fill but maybe we can find one and send this welsher there until he pays his gambling debt!
Roger Rabbit spews:
Prosecution is a Democratic vote-suppression scheme …
Roger Rabbit spews:
… at the rate Rethugs are going to jail, we’ll be a unanimous majority!
Roger Rabbit spews:
27 ABBA … isn’t he a mooslim terrorist?
Roger Rabbit spews:
31 klake says: … we want the “Plan” Now … Send Roger to Iraq to win the war!!!!!!!!!! — 11/16/2006 at 9:31 pm
Only intelligent thing you’ve ever posted, klake! Who’d you plagiarize it from? How’re YOU GUYS doing in Iraq? Reminds me of an old rabbit legend …
Once upon a time, back in the days of the Wild West, a frontier town was completely taken over by outlaws and riff-raff. There was no law and order. Shootings were a daily occurrence. Bodies lay in the streets. Saloons stayed open 24-7 and the church was turned into a whorehouse. Rustlers terrorized the ranches, and the bank was held up daily. There had been 16 sheriffs but none of them lasted more than two days. Exasperated, the town’s good citizens wrote a letter to the territorial governor. It described the situation and said, “Send the Texas Rabbits! Send the Texas Rabbits!” The governor, after reading the letter, was sympathetic. So he sent one.
Roger Rabbit spews:
58 (continued)
… And it didn’t take that Texas Rabbit no fucking three years to clean up Dodge!
How’re YOU GUYS doing in Iraq, klake? Need some help?
Roger Rabbit spews:
32 Abba’sMom’sAWhore says: I was a terrible mother. — 11/16/2006 at 9:35 pm
There, there, dearie! You can only do so much when you can’t see out of the burkha.
Roger Rabbit spews:
34
“11/16/2006 – WASHINGTON — Failure of the coalition and Iraqi government to create a unified, peaceful Iraq would be catastrophic for that country and the region, and would embolden terrorists throughout the world, the directors of the Central Intelligence Agency and Defense Intelligence Agency said here Nov. 15.”
How’s that working out for YOU GUYS, klake? Let the genie out of the bottle, did you? Can’t get the toothpaste back into the tube? Maybe it’s time to let someone else try.
Roger Rabbit spews:
When some fool has cut his own artery, the first thing you have to do is stop the bleeding.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Or, put another way, you gotta get out of a bad investment before you lose ALL your capital.
Roger Rabbit spews:
When a tooth goes bad and is rotten down into the roots, you gotta pull it, know what I mean klake?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Or how about this metaphor, klake? When dog shit is stinking up the whole yard, the only thing to do is bury it.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Just throw a layer of dirt on top of it and let composting do its thing.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Any questions about the Plan, klake?
Roger Rabbit spews:
38 proud to be an Ass says: Goldy–I like the change. I was able to cruise by all of vagina lips’ comments effortlessly. Way to go. — 11/16/2006 at 9:42 pm
How about a “Hide” feature like Excel has? You just click on “Hide Redneck” and — whoooosshhh!!! — he disappears until he pays his gambling debt. Can you do it, Goldy?
Roger Rabbit spews:
klake @41
But it’s okay when GOP office holders on the public payroll (i.e., they’re being paid with my tax dollars) to engage in “hate speech” that likens Democrats to terrorists?
Fuck you klake, and fuck Hannity, and fuck Tebelius (a virgin whore who needs to get fucked in the worst way), and fuck all of you GOP hypocrites.
Tell you what, klake. When YOU GUYS stop, we’ll stop. Until then, go fuck yourself!
Roger Rabbit spews:
41 (continued)
Who the hell authorized those assholes to erect a fence on PUBLIC PROPERTY?
Roger Rabbit spews:
Hey klake — can you explain why it’s okay for College Republicans to engage in HATE SPEECH on a taxpayer-supported PUBLIC COLLEGE CAMPUS but it’s not okay for other students to object to it?
Yer Killin Me spews:
68
Rog, I’ve got one of those, but I had to write it myself as an external application. That’s why I’m so jazzed that it looks like the XML works. I can load that in, run it through my filter, and hey presto! All the wingnut spew is reduced to two simple words: “Irrelevant comment.”
Roger Rabbit spews:
College Republicans? Isn’t that the outfit that bilks senior citizens out of their life savings? http://tinyurl.com/6tnzu
“Fund-raising group milks vulnerable senior citizens
“By David Postman and Jim Brunner
“Seattle Times staff reporters
“The College Republican National Committee has raised $6.3 million this year through an aggressive and misleading fund-raising campaign that collected money from senior citizens who thought they were giving to the election efforts of President Bush and other top Republicans.
“Many of the top donors were in their 80s and 90s. The donors wrote checks … in at least one case, totaling more than $100,000 — to groups with official sounding-names such as ‘Republican Headquarters 2004,’ ‘Republican Elections Committee’ and the ‘National Republican Campaign Fund.’ But all of those groups, according to the small print on the letters, were simply projects of the College Republicans, who collected all of the checks. And little of the money went to election efforts.
“Of the money spent by the group this year, nearly 90 percent went to direct-mail vendors and postage expenses, according to records filed with the Internal Revenue Service.
“Some of the elderly donors, meanwhile, wound up bouncing checks and emptying their bank accounts. ‘I don’t have any more money,’ said Cecilia Barbier, a 90-year-old retired church council worker in New York City. ‘I’m stopping giving to everybody. That was all my savings that they got.’ … Barbier said she ‘wised up.’ But not before she made more than 300 donations totaling nearly $100,000 this year, the group’s fund-raising records show. Now, she said, ‘I’m really scrounging.’
“In Van Buren, Ark., Monda Jo Millsap, 68, said she emptied her savings account by writing checks to College Republicans, then got a bank loan of $5,000 and sent that, too, before totaling her donations at more than $59,000.
“College Republicans serve as the party’s outreach organization on college campuses. The group has been a starting place for many prominent conservatives, including Bush adviser Karl Rove, anti-tax activist Grover Norquist and former Christian Coalition executive director Ralph Reed. …
“An attorney and adviser to the group defended the fund raising. … ‘There are tens of thousands of very, very satisfied and happy donors that enjoy a relationship with the College Republicans and their fund-raising process.’
“But since at least 2001, some leaders of College Republicans have objected to the tone and targeting of the fund raising done by Response Dynamics, the Virginia company that handles the direct-mail campaign. … ‘We felt their fund-raising practices were deceptive, to say the least,’ said George Gunning, former treasurer of the College Republicans.
“Gunning said he and two other board members fought to cut ties with Response Dynamics but were blocked by other leaders led by Scott Stewart, the chairman of the College Republicans from 1999 to 2003. As chairman, Stewart was the paid, full-time manager of the organization. …
“The board debated the fund-raising practices after the family of an elderly Indiana woman with Alzheimer’s disease demanded that her donations be returned. The woman’s family said it had sent a registered letter asking that she be taken off the mailing list, but the solicitations continued. Only after a newspaper reported on the story did the College Republicans refund $40,000 to the family, according to Jackie Boyle, one of the woman’s nieces.
“‘I think this is a nationwide scam,’ Boyle said on hearing of recent complaints. ‘They’re covering the whole country … they need to be investigated.’
“Stewart is the director of Bush’s Nevada campaign operation, and campaign officials said he would not be available to comment for this story.
“The Washington State Attorney General’s Office received at least six complaints about the College Republicans fund-raising letters from 2000 to 2002 … (that) cited ‘fund raising representations’ and ‘senior exploitation.’ …
“This year, as millions of dollars flowed in, College Republicans falsely claimed in letters that checks were only trickling in and that the group was in a constant budget crisis. And the elderly continued to be a major source of donations. There are far more retired people giving to College Republicans than to any other IRS-regulated independent political committee, IRS records indicate.
“The Times was able to determine the ages of 49 of the top 50 individual donors to the College Republicans. The median age of the donors is 85, and 14 of them are 90 or older. … Donors interviewed this week frequently expressed disbelief when they were told how much they gave to the College Republicans.
“‘That can’t be true,’ said Francis Lehar, a 91-year-old retired music publisher, when he was told records showed he gave the College Republicans nearly $23,000. ‘I have donated to dozens of Republican causes. Some of them might be the Republican Party organizations.’ From January through September, the Massachusetts man wrote 90 checks to the group, records show. ‘It surprises me that it goes to them and not to the other names that they had,’ he said. …
“The [fundraising] letters are computer-generated, personalized form letters, but the recipients often view them as personal correspondence. ‘ … [T]hey would keep saying, “You’ve got to keep on or we won’t be able to keep up with Kerry.” So they kept on me,’ said a retired bookkeeper who was one of the group’s most generous donors. …
“She grew concerned when repeated letters came earlier this year asking for donations for a ‘Republican Headquarters 2004 Membership Card.’ The card was merely a block of text inside a dotted line on the back of the letter. The holder was supposed to cut it out and carry it with her.
“But the letter was infused with urgency. ‘If I do not have your completed RH membership renewal form within the next ten days, your membership will be put on suspension,’ one letter said. ‘President Bush cannot afford your membership and involvement in the Republican Party to be wavering at this crucial time.’ The group wanted a donation of $25 to $500 for the card. … ‘You had to pay something for the membership card,’ the retired bookkeeper said. ‘I sent in four different checks to him and every time he said he didn’t receive them.’ The four checks totaled $1,105. ‘He kept saying he was going to cancel me. He was constantly asking for money.’
“For her and other donors, the mail was part nuisance, part companion. Several spoke of sorting the mail and writing checks almost as their job this campaign year. And many thought their work alone would make the difference in a Bush victory. ‘And they kept telling me I’ve got to do this or we can’t win,’ the retired bookkeeper said. ‘You see, I was the only one. They said the others had quit. I was the only one they were writing to, I thought.’
“The College Republicans had another warning in September 2003, when the Center for Public Integrity, a Washington, D.C.-based watchdog group, issued a report on the explosive fund-raising growth by the College Republicans. The report noted that several elderly donors who were contacted did not appear to know to whom they had given money. …
“[C]ompanies related to the fund raising get most of the money raised by the College Republicans. About $9 million of the College Republicans’ reported spending this year appeared to go into fund-raising expenses, according to a Times analysis of reports filed with the IRS. About $313,000, roughly 3 percent, went for travel, convention expenses and ‘hospitality.’ About $210,000 went to payroll expenses, helping pay for campus organizers who have been drumming up support for the GOP ticket among young people.
“The large amount of money devoted to fund raising, and the small amount for political activities, is unusual among the top ranks of the burgeoning field of so-called 527 independent political groups. Of the $20 million the anti-Bush group MoveOn.org spent, according to its filings, 93 percent went to media, advertising, marketing and polling. …
“Officials of Response Dynamics have publicly described their strategy. ‘Direct mail fund raising means asking for money and asking for it often,’ company President Ron Kanfer wrote in a 1991 article on the art of the pitch. ‘You must literally force them to send money.’
“An August fund-raising letter showed that aggressive approach, telling donors there was a Democratic conspiracy to intercept the committee’s mail: ‘Given what I’ve learned, you and I must take every precaution necessary. Apparently the Democrats don’t have any concern about hurting you, your family or America. Their sole concern is revenge — vengeance — retribution.’
“With the approach of Tuesday’s election, the letters have become even more breathless. Last Saturday, a donor received what appears to be a photocopied handwritten note from the director of one committee: ‘Please understand I have no one else to turn to. This is serious: We will have to close our doors! I need your help now!’ …
“Rove, Bush’s top political strategist, spoke to College Republican leaders during the GOP Convention, and said the group’s organizing was ‘absolutely vital to the election.’ …
“The College Republicans themselves are rarely mentioned in the group’s fund-raising letters. … The focus is on the presidential campaign, congressional races and the constant threat of what they portray as likely liberal victories in November. The letters imply close connections to Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Republican leaders and the party organization. The pitches sometimes promise that special messages will be hand-delivered to Bush or others if they are sent back with a donation.
“Most donors interviewed said they get up to 50 solicitations in the mail each day. That pile can include four or more from the College Republicans. ‘My house looks like a post office, and I’m not exaggerating,’ said Anne Kravic, a retired school-district employee in Parma, Ohio. …
“‘I wouldn’t say that a single week passed I didn’t send something and sometimes twice a week, depending on how serious the situation was according to them,’ she said. Her small monthly pension cannot keep up with the life of a political financier. ‘I’m tired of it. … My bank account has been overdrawn …,’ she said.
“Elliot Baines is an 84-year-old Florida retiree who says he has a hard time just carrying the mail he gets each day now. ‘It’s almost too much for me to handle,’ he said. Baines was surprised to hear he had given more than $63,000 and that it had all gone to College Republicans. He said he was swayed to give, sometimes against his better instincts, by the power of the letters.
“‘I thought if I paid them off once it would send them away, but it just encourages them to send more,’ he said. ‘It is just a rat race in this house to pay off these people and hope that they quit. ‘But they don’t. They keep sending.'”
The Seattle Times published this story on Oct. 28, 2004. For complete story and/or copyright info, see link above!
Roger Rabbit Commentary: What can I say? It speaks for itself. Greedy, selfish bastards! And — according to the article — a whopping 90 percent of the money coerced from these vulnerable elderly “donors” went to the fundraising companies, less than 10 percent to the political activities they thought they were supporting.
Roger Rabbit spews:
College Republicans? Isn’t that the outfit that bilks senior citizens of their life savings? http://tinyurl.com/6tnzu
Roger Rabbit spews:
Soooo … the College Republicans, a gangster outfit that robs vulnerable elderly people of their pensions and savings, are bitching about “hate speech”?
Roger Rabbit spews:
College Republicans = financial terrorists
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44 klake says: We have not use observation balloons in years … 11/16/2006 at 10:22 pm
Hate to break it to you, klake, but you’re full of shit. Again. http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/airdef/tars.htm
Roger Rabbit spews:
ROGER RABBIT POLL
klake the nazi says “We have not use observation balloons in years” because …
[ ] 1. He’s a lying pig fucker
[ ] 2. He’s too lazy to do any research
[ ] 3. He’s an ignorant fuck who’s never heard of TARS
[ ] 4. He’s an illiterate fuck who doesn’t know the difference between present and past tenses (“use” vs. “used”)
[ ] 5. All of the above
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klake the nazi says: “You fail to see the vision by which we are engaging the enemy to see we are wining this conflict.”
How’s that going for YOU GUYS, klake? In Iraq, I mean? Oh, what the hell, throw in Afghanistan too, if you want … how’s THAT going for you? Are YOU GUYS winning anywhere, except in your own minds?
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Ya shoulda sent a Texas Rabbit.
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Those clueless and witless pig fuckers have no clue when it’s going to end. They have no plan for it to ever end. This is like George Orwell’s “perpetual war.”
Roger Rabbit spews:
The difference between Douglas MacArthur and George W. Bush is that MacArthur had a plan to “return.” MacArthur knew when, where, and how he would “return.” With Bush, just saying “I shall return” IS the plan — and that’s all there is to it.
Roger Rabbit spews:
klake is a “light at the end of the tunnel” kind of guy. http://tinyurl.com/yycnnc
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A concerned Democrat says: I hope my party is smart enough to invoke the fairness doctrine. We can not afford the right wing talking heads to run their mouths once we get hit by a terrorist attack. We need to stay on offense and never have to play defense. — 11/16/2006 at 11:03 pm
Considering that wingnuts have done all the talking for the last 6 years, it’s time for them to shut up and do some listening.
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headless lucy @ 29:
Interesting site, thanks.
I’ll tell you a very sad thing about whomever takes the supposed reins of power in this country. They get sat down and given a speech like this:
1) 2% of the people control 90% of the wealth. Ever fail to miss this point, and you will be fucked like you have never been fucked before.
2) The United States Industrial Machine (qv: that 2%) needs certain things to survive. Cheap raw materials (i.e. oil) is one, access to markets is another, laws protecting that machine are another. Fail to provide this, and you’re back to point #1.
3) Governments change, people change, that great big tide of history ebbs and flows. The groups from point #1 who enforce point #2 aim to be perpetual. We will work with whomsoever is in government so long as they agree to the basic framework and do their best to keep truly dangerous people away from the levers of power.
I’m sorry it works this way, but that’s how it’s been long before I got here, and it will likely be this way after I’m gone. If things don’t go that way, The People United will find out that capital is fungible and can leave very quickly. You can have a country that is truly free, or you can have a country that is rich. You do not get both. Perhaps they will decide to change the deal that has kept this place rolling for the last 200 years. Good by me. It will in no way shape, or form be painless to do so.
With all those awful things having been said, it still matters. Politics is still about the distribution of power. Politics comes down to two things; money and votes. That 2% will always have more money, life sucks that way. Change enough votes and you can move the body politic anyhow. It is not easy, and it is definitely not free. It is still worth it to do so.
ABBA spews:
ABBA is your father in heaven….including the many left-wing gays who masturbate at this Blog site.
John Barelli spews:
Hey, Goldy
What have you done that has so angered the Swedish pop music crowd?
Are we also going to be hearing from the Captain And Tennille? Will Earth, Wind and Fire be putting in an appearance?
I’m ok with all of that, just so long as nobody starts singing “Muscrat Love”.
Oh, and by the way. The new site looks great. Thanks!
Daddy Love spews:
Abizaid was spouting nonsense to the Senate Armed Services Comittee yesterday and Wedhesday. He said that we don’t need more troops in Iraq, that he’s sending more troops to Iraq, and that we don’t have the troops to sustain sending more troops to Iraq. Also, he seems to think that even though we lost more troops in October 2006 than we have in a single month in about two years, and even though the other day an astounding 159 Iraqis died or were found dead, that sectarian violence has “declined since August.”
What planet do these guys live on?
Now Bush is in Vietnam, for God’s sake, saying that there is much to be learned from the war there, but that “It’s just going to take a long period of time for the ideology that is hopeful…to overcome an ideology of hate,” and that “We’ll succeed unless we quit.”
Yes, there are lessons to be learned from Vietnam, but he has not learned a single one of them. We were in Vietnam for almost 30 years, and he thinks that we “lost” because we “quit.” Damn, get the fucking butterfly nets. Everyone should understand this: no matter who is in Congress, we will never leave Iraq while he’s president. And McCain wants to send more troops. I hope Bush does send in even more troops. It won’t work, and more Americans will die, but McCain will have his whole plan for 2008 knocked out from under his sorry ass.
Daddy Love spews:
Republicans, Republicans, Republicans.
You elect a segregationast as your Senate nujber 2 guy, then go with the old DeLay crowd in the House. That’s it, stay the course! After all, look how well that has worked so far!
Daddy Love spews:
Preview so does NOT help me type better.
headless lucy spews:
re 44: You are dead wrong about those high tech balloons. But I’ve never seen you let facts get in the way of your opinions and the talking points the right feeds you. This would be a good way for you to break the hold they have on your mind. Fly to Sierra Vista AZ. Look up in the sky and you will see a huge blimp many miles up in the sky. Ask any local what the ballon is for. Ask how many are on the border. You can verify this with your senses. You don’t even have to think .
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testing
mr weewee spews:
http://www.buzzflash.com
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Roger Rabbit says:
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“11/16/2006 – WASHINGTON — Failure of the coalition and Iraqi government to create a unified, peaceful Iraq would be catastrophic for that country and the region, and would embolden terrorists throughout the world, the directors of the Central Intelligence Agency and Defense Intelligence Agency said here Nov. 15.”
How’s that working out for YOU GUYS, klake? Let the genie out of the bottle, did you? Can’t get the toothpaste back into the tube? Maybe it’s time to let someone else try.
11/16/2006 at 11:25 pm
Rabbit, so…redeploying to wherever is the answer? No one ever accused rabbits of having a high IQ though.
By the way, it looks like both Murtha and Burner have been redeployed!