Packers need to win by more than 3 or my bank account will get a little lighter.
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Zotz sez: Pastafarians rule!spews:
My prediction:
A significant number of Americans will become blotto and bloated.
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Proud to be an Assspews:
Brutal defense in the theme in the 1st half as the score stands 0-0 at halftime. The halftime show is blacked out due to ice falling off the stadium roof and exposed frozen tits. There is rioting on Madison Avenue as Fox pulls all the commercals to run the trailer from “The Best of Glen Beck”. Ben Roeslisberger nails a Green Bay cheerleader in the 3rd quarter and is led off the field in handcuffs. Green Bay wins in the last minute 31-24 on an exact broken field reenactment of the famous “immaculate reception”. Fans in Oakland are redeemed at last.
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proud leftistspews:
Someone needs to let Sarah Palin know that she just needs to shut the fuck up sometimes. Her criticism of the Obama Administration for failure to share everything it knows and intends to do with regard to the Egyptian situation is beyond reprehensible–it approaches treason. Is she pathologically incapable of avoiding criticism of Obama, even when she hasn’t the slightest clue what she is talking about? What a dumb, fucking arrogant bitch.
Looks like I will be enjoying a fine bottle of small batch bourbon. Thanks, Pack!
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Some Republican Dullardspews:
I blame the liberal media!
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Proud to be an Assspews:
I really apologize for missing the final score by 1 point. I forgot about those 2 point plays. My bad.
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Some Republican Dullardspews:
I’d like to take a moment to thank Ronald Reagan for making abortion legal in the state of California in 1967.
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Michaelspews:
Oops, forgot to switch names again.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@11 Yeah, that’s gotta be it. Palin is telling us not to trust democracy supporters in Egypt. I’m sure she’s a big fan of rightwing dictators wherever they exist. In the real world, who the fuck is she to be telling the Egyptian people whose rule they should live under? It’s none of her damned business.
Okay, so if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over, how does she plan to stop them? Is President Palin going to invade Egypt to install a friendly regime there? I think not.
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Michaelspews:
@19
Palin was probably thinking about how much fun she could have as a dictator in a place like Egypt.
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EvergreenRailfanspews:
Way to go Packers, not bad for a team that hails from a very small city, of about 100,000(Give or take 10,000 or two). Ironic that Coach McCarthy is from Pittsburgh. This is Number 13 for the Packers, as in their 13th NFL Championship every, including 9 pre-Super Bowl titles, and 4 of the trophies that now bear the name of legendary Coach Vince Lombardi. The stadium they played in tonight, seats about the same, or more, than Green Bay’s entire population.
A few years ago, ESPN, NFL Films, and the Indianapolis Colts and New York Giants did a special honoring the 1958 NFL Championship Game at Yankee Stadium between the New York Giants and the-then Baltimore Colts. First time they went into overtime, and Baltimore with a legendary QB(I won’t try to spell his name here), won in sudden death. The impact this game, one of the first title games to be televised nationally, had was enormous. Within a year, the American Football League was started, and within a decade of that, they would merge.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
2 Insipid Editorials For The Price of 1 Rag
The Republican Times gives us a two-fer today. Let’s start with this one:
“A SUPERLATIVE STADIUM”
“FOOTBALL fans’ eyes will be on the Super Bowl battle, but the venue itself is also worth a double take.
“The new $1.2 billion Cowboys Stadium … dazzles even fair-weather football fans like me. A September journalism conference included a tour of the stadium and a visit with Cowboys owner and stadium-builder Jerry Jones. …
“‘Three years ago, we knew we were facing one of the worst economic times in history,’ said Jones, sporting a lavender polo with a precisely matching hankie tucked into his navy suit. ‘I had to wonder what in the world we were doing here.’
“But Jones soldiered on, thanks in no small part to the generosity of Arlington, Texas. Taxpayers approved increases in sales, hotel and car-rental taxes to cover the city’s $325 million contribution.”
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Waytago Kate Riley! Gush over a $1.2 billion dollar stadium built with taxpayer dollars while cash-strapped Texas squeezes public schools and old folks in nursing homes. Sure, it’s an impressive stadium; but I can’t help feeling it doesn’t take much to dazzle Kate.
Now this one:
“Bills threaten people’s ability to remain informed of government actions”
“The public needs to know what the people they elected are doing. Elected officials do not always see it this way. … The excuse du jour is the budget.
“Harmful bills are being introduced with the explanation that times are tough …. One of the more disturbing bills comes from Rep. Ross Hunter, D-Medina. House Bill 1818 would create a state-run website where all county notices. Current law stipulates that government notices must run in a newspaper, a longtime practice that has served the public well.
“Newspapers are watchdogs of government. This is done in a number of ways, the most obvious being through reporting. As important are the paid legal notices.”
Roger Rabbit Commentary: One of the things the Blethen Rag does really, really well is whine when their own ox is being gored. It’s not enough they’re exempt from sales taxes and got another special tax break last year when they went to the leg with tin cup in hand. Now Ryan Blethen is bitching about a state economy measure that would save cash-strapped public agencies money by posting legal notices online instead of being forced to buy expensive classified ads in newspapers.
Blethen whines that “government cannot be trusted” to publish legal notices without a middleman, i.e. Ryan’s dad’s newspaper. Then he says, “How often is a person going to check out a state-run website packed with legal notices from every county in the state?”
WTF??! How many people read the freakin’ legal notices in newspapers, for crying out loud??!! Only business people who are looking for some specific thing such as bid notices. And if they can look for that information in newspapers, they can just as easily find it online.
What this editorial boils down to is a whine that taxpayers should continue subsidizing newspapers by buying ad inches instead of posting legal notices online for free. This from a newspaper whose response to the recession-induced state budget crisis has consistently been cut, cut, cut.
Sheesh. Some people have no shame. One thing you can always count on the Times to do is shamelessly shill for their own selfish self-interest no matter what.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
The Packers are, at the very least, a statewide team; but, really, they are a national team.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
I thought Christina Aguilera’s rendition of the national anthem national anthem was hideous. She also flubbed the lyrics.
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Michaelspews:
@22
The Tacoma paper ran the same insipid editorial about public notices that no one reads and few know exist.
If people want to know what’s going on they look it up on line.
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Michaelspews:
@24
Christina Aguilera is hidious in general.
I have a theory that everything in America can be reduced to money and/or tits. Christina Aguilera is exhibit A in this.
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EvergreenRailfanspews:
I heard somewhere that the big overhead screen at Cowboys Stadium cost about $40 million. The stadium that this one replaced, Texas Stadium, cost that much to build.
As for the Packers being a statewide team for Wisconsin, they have been it for a long time there, although supposedly their was a team in Milwaukee in the 20s. In a way, the Seahawks are the Northwest’s team. As for championships, we have a National Championship Football team in the NCAA. Division 1 Football Championship Subdivision, the Eastern Washington University Eagles. We came back from behind to beat Delaware in early January. Delaware had one famous alumni rooting for them, VP Biden. I was surprised that at least a few people in Spokane rallied around Eastern, but one commentator on KXLY wished there were more.
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Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmintspews:
what does Palin have to do with the superbowl?
answer: some people’s lives are so lame that they have to find a way to inject inane politics into the sports world.
suggestion: go get a fucking life.
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proud leftistspews:
Maxie @ 28
You might try to follow your own command–go get a life, my friend. Hate is not very becoming.
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Michaelspews:
@28
It’s an open thread and she was in the news…
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Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmintspews:
Proud Communist: socialism and jealousy of success of not very becoming either.
and my life is just fine, tyvm….you dont see me running around to various blogs and reporting on their status – sorry, but thats TEH LAYME…
just saying……
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Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmintspews:
@30..
ok….whatever.
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Pizzafacespews:
re 31; Lenin was a successful Communist. Is that what all of this is about? You are jealous of successful Communists and Fabian Socialists — like Bertrand Russell?
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proud leftistspews:
Maxie,
Surely, you understand that there is a difference between being a leftist and being a Communist, don’t you? Though the gap between being a rightwinger in this country and being a fascist has quite narrowed, I don’t believe that just because you are a Republican you are also a fascist. Nuance, Maxie, try to grasp it.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@29 This is an open thread, dumbass.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
So Long, Huffington Post
Huffington Post has been sold to AOL for $315 million.
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Davidspews:
@36, you knew it was coming when they started firing journalists for doing their jobs.
RR @ 22: It’s been a long time since I perused legal notices, but I recall that in Seattle most were published in the Journal of Commerce, not the Seattle Times. Of course, only attorneys, government officials, and companies looking for bid notices would subscribe to the JoC. So the idea that publishing notices there would result in a higher readership by the public is pretty far-fetched.
So what is it that the Times is blathering about? They somehow seem to think that the Times is getting news from these public notices? Are they complaining that they need these notices hand-delivered to them before they sort them out and decide which ones merit a story? It’s too much work for them to hire an intern to go to a state website daily, and print those which seem of further interest?
Maybe they’ve gotten so used to receiving and printing corporate press releases that the idea of actually going out and seeking real news is abhorant to the Times’ management, no matter how easy it is to do so.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@39 Classified ads are a major revenue source for newspapers, and legal notices fill a lot of classified ad lines.
The Seattle Times wants government to cut spending, but doesn’t want government to cut the spending that buys legal notice ad lines from the Seattle Times.
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rhp6033spews:
Speaking of the Seattle Times editorial policies, they’ve gone even further in trying to use public policy to protect their business. Today they went after the government-operated printing presses in Olympia. Aside from the silliness of the Times trying to pretend that it doesn’t have a dog in this fight, let’s parse the editorial a bit:
“The Legislature should have closed the state printer years ago…”
Apparantly the Times decides to skip over the whole part about using actual facts to support a thesis, and instead jumps right to the conclusion.
“…Rodney Tom, D-Medina, proposed this last year and his colleagues did not have the backbone to do it. This year they should back his proposal, Senate Bill 5523, to close the printer by July 1….”
Also, apparantly Rodney Tom believes that it’s better to have the city’s last major printed newspaper on his side than government workers in Olympia or other citizens who don’t think this this applies to them very much.
“…The state’s Department of Printing runs an offset print shop, bindery and envelope manufactory for other state agencies and for some outside customers….”
Of course, this is exactly the type of business which the Times wants. I’m willing to bet that the Times tries to have it’s allies in the Legislature insert a clause restricting any out-sourcing of press operations to “Washington Publishers”.
I’m also curious about the “outside customers”. Is the Times that concerned about competition from state workers? Isn’t it a good idea for a state agency to contract out it’s services to keep the presses at their most efficient capacity?
“…The latest audit by the Office of Financial Management — a fellow state agency — gives it fairly good scores, but criticizes it for having no measures of productivity in its work for the state. The measures it does use, OFM says, are mostly “from the agency’s perspective rather than things that matter to customers….””
Gee, aren’t the customers really the state agencies who give the work to the printers, and who’s satisfaction is being measured? It seems that the Times is trying to gloss over the fact that the results of the audit are pretty good for the print shop.
“Until last year, state agencies were required to use the state printer, and still they are charged part of its overhead whether they patronize it or not. The Senate has not been required to use it and, Tom says, “We don’t use it. We use an outside printer.””
In other words, instead of giving state agencies a choice, the Times prefers to take away the option?
“There is no advantage to the public for state agencies to have a captive print shop run by government employees.”
Why not? I’m sure there are advantages, but the Times doesn’t bother to investigate or discuss them. Again, the Times skips entirely over the facts to reach a conclusion. Where are the studies comparing the expense of the state print shop vs. private entities? How about the need to print legislation late in the hour so it can be approved before the legislature’s term ends – how much would private firms charge for that? And doesn’t the mere existence of a government-run print shop keep bids for the state printing business lower than they would be if the state didn’t have that option?
“Without it, state agencies will have to shop around like everyone else.”
This sounds awfully inefficient. If we were going to out-source printing, wouldn’t it make more sense to have the state using it’s larger purchasing power to enter into contracts for all it’s agencies? Don’t forget, the state agencies can’t just pick up the phone, make a few calls, and make a decision. They have to go through an open bidding process.
“…If they do this well, they might even save some money…
As I said, they have to go through a bid process. Whether they will save money at this point is pure speculation. Apparantly some “outside customers” believe the rates are competative.
But the Times want’s to skip over the process of proving this assertion as well, because it want’s the print shop closed first, and then figure out if any money can be saved later.
It sounds a lot like Boeing’s business stategy over the past few years – close the parts shops, scrap the tooling, lay off employees who know how to do it, outsource everything, and then year’s later when they admit it was a bad idea, they argue that it’s too hard to reverse the strategy.
“…— and they will support companies that pay taxes….”
Which tax? Washington don’t have an income tax, and I suspect the Times has one of the lowest B&O tax rates around. There is no sales tax on newspapers, but I’m not sure about this type of contract work. Perhaps the Times would be willing to open it’s books to detail exactly how much in taxes it pays, and upon what types of work, so it could prove it’s unsupported assertions that the state would receive increased revenue from this idea?
By the way, if I had turned in this editorial as a Freshman in college, I would have gotten either a failing grade or, at best, an opportunity from the teacher to go back and write a paper which is more carefully researched and which actually has supporting facts. Apparantly that’s not the standard for the Times editorial board.
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Websterspews:
@41
year’s later . . . it’s books . . . Apparantly
Yea, well, if you’d turned your “analysis” above into your high school English teacher you may not have graduated.
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Pizzafacespews:
re 42: If the high school teacher had been GW Bush, he wouldn’t have been able to read it, anyway.
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rhp6033spews:
Webster @ 43: So I didn’t have time to proofread the post. Sue me.
On the other hand, the Seattle Times had as much time as it wanted to read and proof this editorial, yet it still managed to send it to print without the benefit of any supporting facts or critical analysis. This wasn’t exactly a time-sensitive piece. Yet they still get paid for printing this rubbish.
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debertspews:
@44 I didn’t have to time
Heh, heh . . . you’re on HA all day.
Yet they still get paid for printing this rubbish
Which is a step up on HA, which needed donations to print its claptrap because nobody WOULD pay for it! And when that well ran dry in 2010, Goldy had to take a day job in 2011!
Thank god he has you to fill in for his plan B . . . but polish the spelling up!
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Pizzafacespews:
re 45: ‘debert’ — You can’t even spell your own name.
You can lose credibility as a critic for that kind of lapse.
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Zotz sez: Pastafarians rule!spews:
@44: Little pieces of petty chickenshit seem to collect on shoes here, especially when one interacts with the source.
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Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmintspews:
blah…..blah…..blah……zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Have I Found The Key To Puddy’s Psychology?
From the Seattle Weekly, Feb. 2 – Feb. 8 issue, p. 12, in an article about the tax protest movement:
“Of the half-million or so Americans who identify as tax deniers, MacNab says the quickest-growing demographic is back males.”
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debertspews:
@46
Well, I guess lucky for me it is my name. And I’m guessing you can make the same claim in spades, you moron!
@49
You mean “black males.” I suppose if you were a little more technically astute you would have “cut and paste” the passage in rather than typed it in. But, then again, you are HA’s resident AOL user . . .
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Fake Pudgespews:
Clearly, you all are nothing but a cabal of leftists, philistines, and liars and thanks to people like you we’re seeing the return of the Caliphate.
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Does anyone take Pudge seriously? (I thought,
Fake Pudge, that I might pose this question to you.)
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Michaelspews:
@52
Does anyone take Pudge seriously?
I’d hope not. But, at the same time, he’s fairly omnipresent on Tea Bagger stuff so I thought I’d have some fun at his expense for a few days.
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The real fake Pudgespews:
@53 You are a liar. I take myself very seriously. How serious, you dare ask? The truths I share with my devoted readers are obvious to me and require no supporting evidence. That’s how seriously I take myself. Top that, you liar. And don’t ask the Fake Pudge anything. He’s a liar. If you want to know what I think, ask me, the real Fake Pudge.
Note to self: I’d really like to be able to do italics in the SP comments. That’d be soooo cool!
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@50 I typed it from the print copy, you fucking idiot.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@51 I don’t know about liars but the rest of it is pretty much true.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@55 Speaking of Sucky Politics (SP), even “The Shark” has a problem with Ryan Blethen’s beyond-lame and blatantly self-serving editorial about legal notices. It must be tough being Ryan Blethen. When you’re mocked by HA and SP on the same day, you’re having a bad day. Even if your daddy does own the newspaper.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
And even a wingnut like Jim Miller occasionally demonstrates a little bit of sensitivity:
“The Coke border guard ad made me a little more likely to buy a Coke; the Pepsi ads made me a little less likely to buy a Pepsi.”
And, will wonders ever cease, even a bit of humor:
“Oh, and here’s an interesting poll finding: About 35 percent of Americans say they prefer the ads to the game.”
Or maybe he’s being serious by posting that. In any case, you gotta wonder what’s wrong with the other 65 percent.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Hey, it’s good to see the SP’ers talking about the Superbowl. You can’t take yourself seriously all the time. If you do, you become in danger of taking yourself seriously. And that’s serious.
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The real fake Pudgespews:
@60 I am very serious. In fact, I’ve written a song about just how serious I am.
I am so serious
You libs are delirious
My fans are incredulous
At just how serious
I am
I am so serious
You libs are obnoxious
I make you nervious
At just how serious
I am
I was just thinking. Many things set me apart from wingnuts. To name a few,
I’m moral.
I’m compassionate.
I care about my fellow human beings.
Money isn’t my only value.*
I’m a voracious reader of books, magazines, and articles.
* Sure, I’ve made a shitload of money in the stock market — another $1,000 yesterday — but I’ve never spent a penny of it. To me, the value of my portfolio — which has grown from $7,400 to $146,000 in 25 years — is just a way of keeping score. Playing stocks is merely an intellectual exercise for me.
Okay, so what I’m building up to is, I’ve been looking at books again,** and I’ve got a juicy quote for you.
** I read about 100 books a year on a variety of topics, everything from finance and investing to history to government regulation to literature.
The book I’m looking at is “Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me, Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions, and Hurtful Acts,” by Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson, who are renowned social psychologists.***
*** They’re renowned because the dust jacket on the book says they are. It is, of course, a library book; I never buy books if I can get them free. After all, I pay the same library taxes everyone else does.
From the Introduction:
‘As fallible human beings,**** all of us share the impulse to justify ourselves and avoid taking responsibility for any actions that turn out to be harmful, immoral, or stupid. Most of us will never be in a position to make decisions affecting the lives and deaths of millions of people, but whether the consequences of our mistakes are trivial or tragic, on a small scale or a national canvas, most of us find it difficult, if not impossible, to say, ‘I was wrong; I made a terrible mistake.’ The higher the stakes — emotional, financial, moral — the greater the difficulty.
“It goes further than that: Most people, when directly confronted by evidence that they are wrong, do not change their point of view or course of action but justify it even more tenaciously. Even irrefutable evidence is rarely enough to pierce the armor of self-justification. When we began working on this book, the poster boy for ‘tenacious clinging to a discredited belief’ was George W. Bush. Bush was wrong in his claim that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, he was wrong in claiming that Saddam was linked with Al Qaeda, he was wrong in predicting that Iraqis would be dancing in the streets to receive the American soldiers,***** he was wrong in predicting that the conflict would be over quickly, he was wrong in his gross underestimate of the war, and he was most famously wrong in his photo-op speech six weeks after the invasion began, when he announced (under a banner reading MISSION ACCOMPLISHED) that ‘major combat operations in Iraq have ended.
“At that time, the two of us [i.e., the authors of this book] watched with fascination as commentators from the right and left began fantasizing in print about what it would be like to have a president who admitted mistakes. The conservative columnist George Will and the liberal columnist Paul Krugman both called for Bush to admit he had been wrong, but he president remained intransigent.”
**** Of course, as a rabbit, I don’t suffer from human fallibilities, thank the Great Mother Rabbit Spirit; we rabbits may have our faults, although of course we’ll never admit it, but — thank the GMRS — they’re not human faults.
***** G. W. Bush must have watched the movie “Patton” a few times too many.
Okay. They could have added that Bush fucked up the U.S. and global economies, too, and he won’t admit that, either. And they could have added that all the idiots who voted for him won’t admit they made a mistake by voting for him. Pop Rabbit, my father, who is still alive and now almost 100 years old, told me he voted for G. W. Bush, which I found pretty shocking because I thought he was more intelligent than that, but at least he had the spine to say that maybe he made a mistake.
The problem isn’t just that G. W. Bush is a fucking idiot who has too much false pride to admit he couldn’t, and didn’t, do a goddamned thing right. The problem is much bigger than that. The really big problem is that millions of people who voted for him — the wingnuts — not only won’t admit they made a mistake by voting for him, and not only still defend the guy, but they now fawn over even bigger idiots than G. W. Bush. I don’t need to mention names; you know who I’m referring to. The guilty parties include most (or all) of our HA trolls.
There’s just no excusing this. Stupidity is stupidity, period, and unrepentent stupidity that harms others ought to be punishable by spending eternity in Hell. So, I have to get my licks in at wingnuts and trolls while I can, because after this life is over, I won’t be seeing them again.
That’s a good book and you should check it out of the library and read it (after I’m done with it and return it, of course). I’ll leave you with this parting thought from the frontispiece:
“A great nation is like a great man:
When he makes a mistake, he realizes it.
Having realized it, he admits it.
Having admitted it, he corrects it.
He considers those who point out his faults as his most benevolent teachers.
— Lao Tzu”
This, of course, does not describe G. W. Bush, the idiots who voted for him (with the possible exception of Pop Rabbit), wingnuts in general, or any of our trolls. They’re still all mired in destructive ignorance and self-pride. Damn them for that.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Okay, so why am I posting on HA at 3:00 AM in the fucking morning? Because I’m a rabbit, and rabbits are nocturnal, that’s why! And what better time of day is there to get drunk on cheap rum and then ponder the meaning of life? This latter matter is tied many a genius into mental knots, including Stephen Hawking, who lately has been flip-flopping on whether the universe had to be created by an intelligent deity or could have popped out of nothing by itself like a soap bubble, but I don’t have any problem with it. For me, ever since I ceased to be a Goldwater Republican and became a liberal in my sophomore college year, the meaning of life is clear: Defeat Republicans. Republicans are so evil that they give purpose to our lives; like God, if they didn’t exist, we would have had to invent them. But Republicans, like stars and galaxies, seem to pop out of nothingness like soap bubbles. The big difference between them and the universe is that, while stars are real and tangible and meaningful and important, Republicans never progress much beyond soap bubbles. All they’re good for is stealing money and killing people. As such, the universe can do without them; and I’ve devoted my life to ridding the universe of Republicans. But this is such a large task that I can’t do it alone. Not only do I need the help of all my fellow liberal commenters on HA, I also could use some divine intervention. So, my question is,
God, dear God, when the fuck is the Rapture gonna get here? How much longer do we have to wait? Why can’t you beam those fuckers up there, and off our planet, right fucking now, while we still have a planet? Helloooo, is anyone out there???
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Roger Rabbitspews:
I do some of my best writing at 3 in the morning while drunk. I don’t know why that is, it just is. All I can offer by way of explanation is that I’m a rabbit, and as everyone knows, rabbits are nocturnal.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
This blog must be on Mountain Time because #66 didn’t post at 2:40 AM, it posted at 3:12 AM. The clock on this blog is fucked up.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Okay, so what I’m really doing on the Internet Tubes at 3:15 AM is ordering some books from Amazon. These are books I can’t get from the library, or they’re books I want to keep around for reference. I don’t steal library books, only Republicans do that.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Hey trolls, I’m done here for the night, but I’ll see you anti-American traitor fuckwads again in the morning. Don’t hope for peace because I’m not gonna give you any. You don’t deserve peace. You fuckers deserve to be hounded into your graves for the rest of your miserable worthless inconsequential useless lives. You’re all a waste of oxygen and the ecosystem will be better off without you.
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Liberal Scientistspews:
As to whether people take pudgey seriously, there’s this, from SP comment threads:
82. I scroll *to* Pudge’s stuff. Best free education around.
Posted by Matt M. at February 6, 2011 07:57 PM
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Liberal Scientistspews:
@63
NO, NO, NO, NO!!!
Pudge would never use such foul language on a family site – that’s for the liberal sewer Seattle people, or something like that.
They have extremely delicate sensitivities over there.
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Liberal Scientistspews:
Something stuck me in my perusing of SP lately (I think I’m done with that, BTW, at least commenting – whew, the stoopid is powerful there). Anyway, a meme came up a number of times – something I had only ever heard from Puddy here, and thought nuts at the time. Quoting one of the more angry commenter over at SP:
Today’s hard left Dimocrats condemn urban blacks to a culture of dependency by trading welfare crumbs for votes.
This notion that “inner city blacks” are being oppressed, kept down by evil Democrats – exchanging votes for “welfare crumbs” is pretty identical to Puddy bleating about how liberals keep his people on the urban plantation.
Where did this meme come from? Is it a Beck thing? (The same commenter above went off on Soros and MediaMatters and the Tides foundation). It sounds like it predates Beck, though, somehow more Reagan-era, maybe a pivot from the “welfare queen” lie to something even more insidious.
It’s politically interesting, and potentially powerful, as it seeks to drive a wedge between urban and (mainly) African American voters and the rest of the Democratic coalition (the evil libruls of fable).
Any thoughts?
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correctnotrightspews:
@72: LS
I have heard this meme from Puddy and others – the idea is that the reason urban blacks (African Americans) have not been able to “lift themselves up by their bootstraps” like other ethnic groups is:
1. their own fault due to lack of initaitive
2. the lack of initiative is due to “liberals” who support the welfare state
Of course, this is another example of simplistic thinking and overriding ignorance of actual facts.
First, the key to getting out of poverty is a good education and urban schools are lousy not because of liberals but because we as a country do not value education or pay for it in an equitable manner.
Second, after 20 (of 28 years) years of republican Presidents (Reagan, Bush, (Clinton), Bush) – only Clinton significantly reformed welfare.
Third, there is the small matter of discrimination due to color – that republicans tend to ignore.
So this “meme” is a simple-minded attempt to blame “liberals” for actually wanting to do something about a problem that republicans prefer to ignore.
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correctnotrightspews:
initiative typo…., oh, well – shoot me for typing poorly.
75
correctnotrightspews:
And wittle Pudgie – a pompous ass who could not argue his/her way out of a paper bag.
76
eliespews:
@56
That’s the point! What a frickin’ harebrain. And a routinely drunk one at that!
No wonder Goldy couldn’t make money with this audience!
77
Michaelspews:
I’m pretty much done lampooning Pudge, it really wasn’t that much fun. The guy’s just an idiot.
78
Roger Rabbitspews:
@71 Strangely, they don’t have delicate sensitivities about pillaging, raping, looting, killing, or getting single-mom waitresses fired from their jobs for telling their rowdy kids to quiet down the riotous disruption they’re causing in the restaurant.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
@73 “Third, there is the small matter of discrimination due to color – that republicans tend to ignore.”
Of course they ignore it, they’re the ones doing it.
And I find it very strange the Puddy supports a party that wants to take “his people” off the urban plantation and put ’em back on the cotton plantations.
(Repeal the 14th Amendment, anyone?)
80
Roger Rabbitspews:
@76 What’s wrong with reading print copies of free newspapers? You got something against that? Does everything in the whole frickin’ universe have to be copied-and-pasted?
81
sadiespews:
@80 You got something against that?
Ha! Only when you can’t figure cut and paste out! But, you know, it’s only 2011! Of course, it helps to be sober.
82
Ekimspews:
Google has a Jules Verne theme going on right now.
I don’t know how long it will be around so you better look now if you’re interested in such things…
1. their own fault due to lack of initaitive
2. the lack of initiative is due to “liberals” who support the welfare state
You forgot the decades long conspiracy to kill blacks by “progressives” who run planned parenthood.
Yeah, he really believes that shit!
84
Undercover Brotherspews:
at least i had the over so i didn’t get hurt too bad.
i also had the coin toss and first to score.
but lost the +2.5.
good game but poorly played by the Steelers.
i think the ratings was due to the economy…it seems the stronger the economy the more people have parties or go to vegas or something to that effect and when it is bad they stay home….simple really.
this summer will see a new CBA and TV deal for The League….could be real interesting for fans of the game.
85
Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmintspews:
@69
just die already…for fucks sake.
86
Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmintspews:
I am simply amazed at the time some of you spend all damn day long going from site to site.
What a waste of time and energy. I guess its left up to the few of still working to pick up the slack for everyone else.
proud leftist spews:
Packers need to win by more than 3 or my bank account will get a little lighter.
Zotz sez: Pastafarians rule! spews:
My prediction:
A significant number of Americans will become blotto and bloated.
Proud to be an Ass spews:
Brutal defense in the theme in the 1st half as the score stands 0-0 at halftime. The halftime show is blacked out due to ice falling off the stadium roof and exposed frozen tits. There is rioting on Madison Avenue as Fox pulls all the commercals to run the trailer from “The Best of Glen Beck”. Ben Roeslisberger nails a Green Bay cheerleader in the 3rd quarter and is led off the field in handcuffs. Green Bay wins in the last minute 31-24 on an exact broken field reenactment of the famous “immaculate reception”. Fans in Oakland are redeemed at last.
proud leftist spews:
Someone needs to let Sarah Palin know that she just needs to shut the fuck up sometimes. Her criticism of the Obama Administration for failure to share everything it knows and intends to do with regard to the Egyptian situation is beyond reprehensible–it approaches treason. Is she pathologically incapable of avoiding criticism of Obama, even when she hasn’t the slightest clue what she is talking about? What a dumb, fucking arrogant bitch.
http://politicalticker.blogs.c.....g-machine/
artistdogboy spews:
Incidents of domestic violence and obesity rates will spike, and of course this….
http://www.buzzfeed.com/melism.....l-stadiums
Steve spews:
@4 She first found Egypt on a map last week. Unfortunately, it was a Glenn Beck map so she still doesn’t know where it is.
The real fake Pudge spews:
You are all damn liars.
Michael spews:
Looks like they’ve got the two people responsible for the shooting in Ohio in custody.
Michael spews:
Looks like they’ve got the two people responsible for the shooting in Ohio in custody.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US.....297017202/
YLB spews:
Packers up by 11!
Go Green Bay!
Fake Pudge spews:
@6,
Obviously, you’re just making that because you are a member of the lying far left and you hate gay Republicans.
spyder spews:
Three days ago, i predicted that the team with the ball last will win. I think i will be proven correct.
YLB spews:
Congrats PL…
Packers! YES!
proud leftist spews:
Looks like I will be enjoying a fine bottle of small batch bourbon. Thanks, Pack!
Some Republican Dullard spews:
I blame the liberal media!
Proud to be an Ass spews:
I really apologize for missing the final score by 1 point. I forgot about those 2 point plays. My bad.
Some Republican Dullard spews:
I’d like to take a moment to thank Ronald Reagan for making abortion legal in the state of California in 1967.
Michael spews:
Oops, forgot to switch names again.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@11 Yeah, that’s gotta be it. Palin is telling us not to trust democracy supporters in Egypt. I’m sure she’s a big fan of rightwing dictators wherever they exist. In the real world, who the fuck is she to be telling the Egyptian people whose rule they should live under? It’s none of her damned business.
Okay, so if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over, how does she plan to stop them? Is President Palin going to invade Egypt to install a friendly regime there? I think not.
Michael spews:
@19
Palin was probably thinking about how much fun she could have as a dictator in a place like Egypt.
EvergreenRailfan spews:
Way to go Packers, not bad for a team that hails from a very small city, of about 100,000(Give or take 10,000 or two). Ironic that Coach McCarthy is from Pittsburgh. This is Number 13 for the Packers, as in their 13th NFL Championship every, including 9 pre-Super Bowl titles, and 4 of the trophies that now bear the name of legendary Coach Vince Lombardi. The stadium they played in tonight, seats about the same, or more, than Green Bay’s entire population.
A few years ago, ESPN, NFL Films, and the Indianapolis Colts and New York Giants did a special honoring the 1958 NFL Championship Game at Yankee Stadium between the New York Giants and the-then Baltimore Colts. First time they went into overtime, and Baltimore with a legendary QB(I won’t try to spell his name here), won in sudden death. The impact this game, one of the first title games to be televised nationally, had was enormous. Within a year, the American Football League was started, and within a decade of that, they would merge.
Roger Rabbit spews:
2 Insipid Editorials For The Price of 1 Rag
The Republican Times gives us a two-fer today. Let’s start with this one:
“A SUPERLATIVE STADIUM”
“FOOTBALL fans’ eyes will be on the Super Bowl battle, but the venue itself is also worth a double take.
“The new $1.2 billion Cowboys Stadium … dazzles even fair-weather football fans like me. A September journalism conference included a tour of the stadium and a visit with Cowboys owner and stadium-builder Jerry Jones. …
“‘Three years ago, we knew we were facing one of the worst economic times in history,’ said Jones, sporting a lavender polo with a precisely matching hankie tucked into his navy suit. ‘I had to wonder what in the world we were doing here.’
“But Jones soldiered on, thanks in no small part to the generosity of Arlington, Texas. Taxpayers approved increases in sales, hotel and car-rental taxes to cover the city’s $325 million contribution.”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....6note.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Waytago Kate Riley! Gush over a $1.2 billion dollar stadium built with taxpayer dollars while cash-strapped Texas squeezes public schools and old folks in nursing homes. Sure, it’s an impressive stadium; but I can’t help feeling it doesn’t take much to dazzle Kate.
Now this one:
“Bills threaten people’s ability to remain informed of government actions”
“The public needs to know what the people they elected are doing. Elected officials do not always see it this way. … The excuse du jour is the budget.
“Harmful bills are being introduced with the explanation that times are tough …. One of the more disturbing bills comes from Rep. Ross Hunter, D-Medina. House Bill 1818 would create a state-run website where all county notices. Current law stipulates that government notices must run in a newspaper, a longtime practice that has served the public well.
“Newspapers are watchdogs of government. This is done in a number of ways, the most obvious being through reporting. As important are the paid legal notices.”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....yan06.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: One of the things the Blethen Rag does really, really well is whine when their own ox is being gored. It’s not enough they’re exempt from sales taxes and got another special tax break last year when they went to the leg with tin cup in hand. Now Ryan Blethen is bitching about a state economy measure that would save cash-strapped public agencies money by posting legal notices online instead of being forced to buy expensive classified ads in newspapers.
Blethen whines that “government cannot be trusted” to publish legal notices without a middleman, i.e. Ryan’s dad’s newspaper. Then he says, “How often is a person going to check out a state-run website packed with legal notices from every county in the state?”
WTF??! How many people read the freakin’ legal notices in newspapers, for crying out loud??!! Only business people who are looking for some specific thing such as bid notices. And if they can look for that information in newspapers, they can just as easily find it online.
What this editorial boils down to is a whine that taxpayers should continue subsidizing newspapers by buying ad inches instead of posting legal notices online for free. This from a newspaper whose response to the recession-induced state budget crisis has consistently been cut, cut, cut.
Sheesh. Some people have no shame. One thing you can always count on the Times to do is shamelessly shill for their own selfish self-interest no matter what.
Roger Rabbit spews:
The Packers are, at the very least, a statewide team; but, really, they are a national team.
Roger Rabbit spews:
I thought Christina Aguilera’s rendition of the national anthem national anthem was hideous. She also flubbed the lyrics.
Michael spews:
@22
The Tacoma paper ran the same insipid editorial about public notices that no one reads and few know exist.
If people want to know what’s going on they look it up on line.
Michael spews:
@24
Christina Aguilera is hidious in general.
I have a theory that everything in America can be reduced to money and/or tits. Christina Aguilera is exhibit A in this.
EvergreenRailfan spews:
I heard somewhere that the big overhead screen at Cowboys Stadium cost about $40 million. The stadium that this one replaced, Texas Stadium, cost that much to build.
As for the Packers being a statewide team for Wisconsin, they have been it for a long time there, although supposedly their was a team in Milwaukee in the 20s. In a way, the Seahawks are the Northwest’s team. As for championships, we have a National Championship Football team in the NCAA. Division 1 Football Championship Subdivision, the Eastern Washington University Eagles. We came back from behind to beat Delaware in early January. Delaware had one famous alumni rooting for them, VP Biden. I was surprised that at least a few people in Spokane rallied around Eastern, but one commentator on KXLY wished there were more.
Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:
what does Palin have to do with the superbowl?
answer: some people’s lives are so lame that they have to find a way to inject inane politics into the sports world.
suggestion: go get a fucking life.
proud leftist spews:
Maxie @ 28
You might try to follow your own command–go get a life, my friend. Hate is not very becoming.
Michael spews:
@28
It’s an open thread and she was in the news…
Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:
Proud Communist: socialism and jealousy of success of not very becoming either.
and my life is just fine, tyvm….you dont see me running around to various blogs and reporting on their status – sorry, but thats TEH LAYME…
just saying……
Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:
@30..
ok….whatever.
Pizzaface spews:
re 31; Lenin was a successful Communist. Is that what all of this is about? You are jealous of successful Communists and Fabian Socialists — like Bertrand Russell?
proud leftist spews:
Maxie,
Surely, you understand that there is a difference between being a leftist and being a Communist, don’t you? Though the gap between being a rightwinger in this country and being a fascist has quite narrowed, I don’t believe that just because you are a Republican you are also a fascist. Nuance, Maxie, try to grasp it.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@29 This is an open thread, dumbass.
Roger Rabbit spews:
So Long, Huffington Post
Huffington Post has been sold to AOL for $315 million.
David spews:
@36, you knew it was coming when they started firing journalists for doing their jobs.
Proud to be an Ass spews:
Whose side will you be on?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....ll-in-2011
rhp6033 spews:
RR @ 22: It’s been a long time since I perused legal notices, but I recall that in Seattle most were published in the Journal of Commerce, not the Seattle Times. Of course, only attorneys, government officials, and companies looking for bid notices would subscribe to the JoC. So the idea that publishing notices there would result in a higher readership by the public is pretty far-fetched.
So what is it that the Times is blathering about? They somehow seem to think that the Times is getting news from these public notices? Are they complaining that they need these notices hand-delivered to them before they sort them out and decide which ones merit a story? It’s too much work for them to hire an intern to go to a state website daily, and print those which seem of further interest?
Maybe they’ve gotten so used to receiving and printing corporate press releases that the idea of actually going out and seeking real news is abhorant to the Times’ management, no matter how easy it is to do so.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@39 Classified ads are a major revenue source for newspapers, and legal notices fill a lot of classified ad lines.
The Seattle Times wants government to cut spending, but doesn’t want government to cut the spending that buys legal notice ad lines from the Seattle Times.
rhp6033 spews:
Speaking of the Seattle Times editorial policies, they’ve gone even further in trying to use public policy to protect their business. Today they went after the government-operated printing presses in Olympia. Aside from the silliness of the Times trying to pretend that it doesn’t have a dog in this fight, let’s parse the editorial a bit:
Apparantly the Times decides to skip over the whole part about using actual facts to support a thesis, and instead jumps right to the conclusion.
Also, apparantly Rodney Tom believes that it’s better to have the city’s last major printed newspaper on his side than government workers in Olympia or other citizens who don’t think this this applies to them very much.
Of course, this is exactly the type of business which the Times wants. I’m willing to bet that the Times tries to have it’s allies in the Legislature insert a clause restricting any out-sourcing of press operations to “Washington Publishers”.
I’m also curious about the “outside customers”. Is the Times that concerned about competition from state workers? Isn’t it a good idea for a state agency to contract out it’s services to keep the presses at their most efficient capacity?
Gee, aren’t the customers really the state agencies who give the work to the printers, and who’s satisfaction is being measured? It seems that the Times is trying to gloss over the fact that the results of the audit are pretty good for the print shop.
In other words, instead of giving state agencies a choice, the Times prefers to take away the option?
Why not? I’m sure there are advantages, but the Times doesn’t bother to investigate or discuss them. Again, the Times skips entirely over the facts to reach a conclusion. Where are the studies comparing the expense of the state print shop vs. private entities? How about the need to print legislation late in the hour so it can be approved before the legislature’s term ends – how much would private firms charge for that? And doesn’t the mere existence of a government-run print shop keep bids for the state printing business lower than they would be if the state didn’t have that option?
“Without it, state agencies will have to shop around like everyone else.”
This sounds awfully inefficient. If we were going to out-source printing, wouldn’t it make more sense to have the state using it’s larger purchasing power to enter into contracts for all it’s agencies? Don’t forget, the state agencies can’t just pick up the phone, make a few calls, and make a decision. They have to go through an open bidding process.
As I said, they have to go through a bid process. Whether they will save money at this point is pure speculation. Apparantly some “outside customers” believe the rates are competative.
But the Times want’s to skip over the process of proving this assertion as well, because it want’s the print shop closed first, and then figure out if any money can be saved later.
It sounds a lot like Boeing’s business stategy over the past few years – close the parts shops, scrap the tooling, lay off employees who know how to do it, outsource everything, and then year’s later when they admit it was a bad idea, they argue that it’s too hard to reverse the strategy.
Which tax? Washington don’t have an income tax, and I suspect the Times has one of the lowest B&O tax rates around. There is no sales tax on newspapers, but I’m not sure about this type of contract work. Perhaps the Times would be willing to open it’s books to detail exactly how much in taxes it pays, and upon what types of work, so it could prove it’s unsupported assertions that the state would receive increased revenue from this idea?
By the way, if I had turned in this editorial as a Freshman in college, I would have gotten either a failing grade or, at best, an opportunity from the teacher to go back and write a paper which is more carefully researched and which actually has supporting facts. Apparantly that’s not the standard for the Times editorial board.
Webster spews:
@41
year’s later . . . it’s books . . . Apparantly
Yea, well, if you’d turned your “analysis” above into your high school English teacher you may not have graduated.
Pizzaface spews:
re 42: If the high school teacher had been GW Bush, he wouldn’t have been able to read it, anyway.
rhp6033 spews:
Webster @ 43: So I didn’t have time to proofread the post. Sue me.
On the other hand, the Seattle Times had as much time as it wanted to read and proof this editorial, yet it still managed to send it to print without the benefit of any supporting facts or critical analysis. This wasn’t exactly a time-sensitive piece. Yet they still get paid for printing this rubbish.
debert spews:
@44 I didn’t have to time
Heh, heh . . . you’re on HA all day.
Yet they still get paid for printing this rubbish
Which is a step up on HA, which needed donations to print its claptrap because nobody WOULD pay for it! And when that well ran dry in 2010, Goldy had to take a day job in 2011!
Thank god he has you to fill in for his plan B . . . but polish the spelling up!
Pizzaface spews:
re 45: ‘debert’ — You can’t even spell your own name.
You can lose credibility as a critic for that kind of lapse.
Zotz sez: Pastafarians rule! spews:
@44: Little pieces of petty chickenshit seem to collect on shoes here, especially when one interacts with the source.
Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:
blah…..blah…..blah……zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Roger Rabbit spews:
Have I Found The Key To Puddy’s Psychology?
From the Seattle Weekly, Feb. 2 – Feb. 8 issue, p. 12, in an article about the tax protest movement:
“Of the half-million or so Americans who identify as tax deniers, MacNab says the quickest-growing demographic is back males.”
debert spews:
@46
Well, I guess lucky for me it is my name. And I’m guessing you can make the same claim in spades, you moron!
@49
You mean “black males.” I suppose if you were a little more technically astute you would have “cut and paste” the passage in rather than typed it in. But, then again, you are HA’s resident AOL user . . .
Fake Pudge spews:
Clearly, you all are nothing but a cabal of leftists, philistines, and liars and thanks to people like you we’re seeing the return of the Caliphate.
Fake Pudge spews:
News Bulletin: The Daily Show is fake.
http://pudge.net/glob/2005/06/slashdot-110217.html
proud leftist spews:
52
Does anyone take Pudge seriously? (I thought,
Fake Pudge, that I might pose this question to you.)
Michael spews:
@52
I’d hope not. But, at the same time, he’s fairly omnipresent on Tea Bagger stuff so I thought I’d have some fun at his expense for a few days.
The real fake Pudge spews:
@53 You are a liar. I take myself very seriously. How serious, you dare ask? The truths I share with my devoted readers are obvious to me and require no supporting evidence. That’s how seriously I take myself. Top that, you liar. And don’t ask the Fake Pudge anything. He’s a liar. If you want to know what I think, ask me, the real Fake Pudge.
Note to self: I’d really like to be able to do italics in the SP comments. That’d be soooo cool!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@50 I typed it from the print copy, you fucking idiot.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@51 I don’t know about liars but the rest of it is pretty much true.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@55 Speaking of Sucky Politics (SP), even “The Shark” has a problem with Ryan Blethen’s beyond-lame and blatantly self-serving editorial about legal notices. It must be tough being Ryan Blethen. When you’re mocked by HA and SP on the same day, you’re having a bad day. Even if your daddy does own the newspaper.
Roger Rabbit spews:
And even a wingnut like Jim Miller occasionally demonstrates a little bit of sensitivity:
“The Coke border guard ad made me a little more likely to buy a Coke; the Pepsi ads made me a little less likely to buy a Pepsi.”
And, will wonders ever cease, even a bit of humor:
“Oh, and here’s an interesting poll finding: About 35 percent of Americans say they prefer the ads to the game.”
Or maybe he’s being serious by posting that. In any case, you gotta wonder what’s wrong with the other 65 percent.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Hey, it’s good to see the SP’ers talking about the Superbowl. You can’t take yourself seriously all the time. If you do, you become in danger of taking yourself seriously. And that’s serious.
The real fake Pudge spews:
@60 I am very serious. In fact, I’ve written a song about just how serious I am.
I am so serious
You libs are delirious
My fans are incredulous
At just how serious
I am
I am so serious
You libs are obnoxious
I make you nervious
At just how serious
I am
I’m still working on the chorus.
RR Anderson spews:
anyone like Ronald Reagan ?
http://comics.feedtacoma.com/t.....niversary/
Roger Rabbit spews:
@61 “I’m still working on the chorus.”
Let me help you out with that.
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you,
I’m right, I’m right, I’m right,
You’re wrong, you’re wrong, you’re wrong,
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.
Does that work?
Roger Rabbit spews:
I was just thinking. Many things set me apart from wingnuts. To name a few,
I’m moral.
I’m compassionate.
I care about my fellow human beings.
Money isn’t my only value.*
I’m a voracious reader of books, magazines, and articles.
* Sure, I’ve made a shitload of money in the stock market — another $1,000 yesterday — but I’ve never spent a penny of it. To me, the value of my portfolio — which has grown from $7,400 to $146,000 in 25 years — is just a way of keeping score. Playing stocks is merely an intellectual exercise for me.
Okay, so what I’m building up to is, I’ve been looking at books again,** and I’ve got a juicy quote for you.
** I read about 100 books a year on a variety of topics, everything from finance and investing to history to government regulation to literature.
The book I’m looking at is “Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me, Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions, and Hurtful Acts,” by Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson, who are renowned social psychologists.***
*** They’re renowned because the dust jacket on the book says they are. It is, of course, a library book; I never buy books if I can get them free. After all, I pay the same library taxes everyone else does.
From the Introduction:
‘As fallible human beings,**** all of us share the impulse to justify ourselves and avoid taking responsibility for any actions that turn out to be harmful, immoral, or stupid. Most of us will never be in a position to make decisions affecting the lives and deaths of millions of people, but whether the consequences of our mistakes are trivial or tragic, on a small scale or a national canvas, most of us find it difficult, if not impossible, to say, ‘I was wrong; I made a terrible mistake.’ The higher the stakes — emotional, financial, moral — the greater the difficulty.
“It goes further than that: Most people, when directly confronted by evidence that they are wrong, do not change their point of view or course of action but justify it even more tenaciously. Even irrefutable evidence is rarely enough to pierce the armor of self-justification. When we began working on this book, the poster boy for ‘tenacious clinging to a discredited belief’ was George W. Bush. Bush was wrong in his claim that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, he was wrong in claiming that Saddam was linked with Al Qaeda, he was wrong in predicting that Iraqis would be dancing in the streets to receive the American soldiers,***** he was wrong in predicting that the conflict would be over quickly, he was wrong in his gross underestimate of the war, and he was most famously wrong in his photo-op speech six weeks after the invasion began, when he announced (under a banner reading MISSION ACCOMPLISHED) that ‘major combat operations in Iraq have ended.
“At that time, the two of us [i.e., the authors of this book] watched with fascination as commentators from the right and left began fantasizing in print about what it would be like to have a president who admitted mistakes. The conservative columnist George Will and the liberal columnist Paul Krugman both called for Bush to admit he had been wrong, but he president remained intransigent.”
**** Of course, as a rabbit, I don’t suffer from human fallibilities, thank the Great Mother Rabbit Spirit; we rabbits may have our faults, although of course we’ll never admit it, but — thank the GMRS — they’re not human faults.
***** G. W. Bush must have watched the movie “Patton” a few times too many.
Okay. They could have added that Bush fucked up the U.S. and global economies, too, and he won’t admit that, either. And they could have added that all the idiots who voted for him won’t admit they made a mistake by voting for him. Pop Rabbit, my father, who is still alive and now almost 100 years old, told me he voted for G. W. Bush, which I found pretty shocking because I thought he was more intelligent than that, but at least he had the spine to say that maybe he made a mistake.
The problem isn’t just that G. W. Bush is a fucking idiot who has too much false pride to admit he couldn’t, and didn’t, do a goddamned thing right. The problem is much bigger than that. The really big problem is that millions of people who voted for him — the wingnuts — not only won’t admit they made a mistake by voting for him, and not only still defend the guy, but they now fawn over even bigger idiots than G. W. Bush. I don’t need to mention names; you know who I’m referring to. The guilty parties include most (or all) of our HA trolls.
There’s just no excusing this. Stupidity is stupidity, period, and unrepentent stupidity that harms others ought to be punishable by spending eternity in Hell. So, I have to get my licks in at wingnuts and trolls while I can, because after this life is over, I won’t be seeing them again.
That’s a good book and you should check it out of the library and read it (after I’m done with it and return it, of course). I’ll leave you with this parting thought from the frontispiece:
“A great nation is like a great man:
When he makes a mistake, he realizes it.
Having realized it, he admits it.
Having admitted it, he corrects it.
He considers those who point out his faults as his most benevolent teachers.
— Lao Tzu”
This, of course, does not describe G. W. Bush, the idiots who voted for him (with the possible exception of Pop Rabbit), wingnuts in general, or any of our trolls. They’re still all mired in destructive ignorance and self-pride. Damn them for that.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Okay, so why am I posting on HA at 3:00 AM in the fucking morning? Because I’m a rabbit, and rabbits are nocturnal, that’s why! And what better time of day is there to get drunk on cheap rum and then ponder the meaning of life? This latter matter is tied many a genius into mental knots, including Stephen Hawking, who lately has been flip-flopping on whether the universe had to be created by an intelligent deity or could have popped out of nothing by itself like a soap bubble, but I don’t have any problem with it. For me, ever since I ceased to be a Goldwater Republican and became a liberal in my sophomore college year, the meaning of life is clear: Defeat Republicans. Republicans are so evil that they give purpose to our lives; like God, if they didn’t exist, we would have had to invent them. But Republicans, like stars and galaxies, seem to pop out of nothingness like soap bubbles. The big difference between them and the universe is that, while stars are real and tangible and meaningful and important, Republicans never progress much beyond soap bubbles. All they’re good for is stealing money and killing people. As such, the universe can do without them; and I’ve devoted my life to ridding the universe of Republicans. But this is such a large task that I can’t do it alone. Not only do I need the help of all my fellow liberal commenters on HA, I also could use some divine intervention. So, my question is,
God, dear God, when the fuck is the Rapture gonna get here? How much longer do we have to wait? Why can’t you beam those fuckers up there, and off our planet, right fucking now, while we still have a planet? Helloooo, is anyone out there???
Roger Rabbit spews:
I do some of my best writing at 3 in the morning while drunk. I don’t know why that is, it just is. All I can offer by way of explanation is that I’m a rabbit, and as everyone knows, rabbits are nocturnal.
Roger Rabbit spews:
This blog must be on Mountain Time because #66 didn’t post at 2:40 AM, it posted at 3:12 AM. The clock on this blog is fucked up.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Okay, so what I’m really doing on the Internet Tubes at 3:15 AM is ordering some books from Amazon. These are books I can’t get from the library, or they’re books I want to keep around for reference. I don’t steal library books, only Republicans do that.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Hey trolls, I’m done here for the night, but I’ll see you anti-American traitor fuckwads again in the morning. Don’t hope for peace because I’m not gonna give you any. You don’t deserve peace. You fuckers deserve to be hounded into your graves for the rest of your miserable worthless inconsequential useless lives. You’re all a waste of oxygen and the ecosystem will be better off without you.
Liberal Scientist spews:
As to whether people take pudgey seriously, there’s this, from SP comment threads:
Liberal Scientist spews:
@63
NO, NO, NO, NO!!!
Pudge would never use such foul language on a family site – that’s for the liberal sewer Seattle people, or something like that.
Your chorus
would quite literally be edited to read:
They have extremely delicate sensitivities over there.
Liberal Scientist spews:
Something stuck me in my perusing of SP lately (I think I’m done with that, BTW, at least commenting – whew, the stoopid is powerful there). Anyway, a meme came up a number of times – something I had only ever heard from Puddy here, and thought nuts at the time. Quoting one of the more angry commenter over at SP:
This notion that “inner city blacks” are being oppressed, kept down by evil Democrats – exchanging votes for “welfare crumbs” is pretty identical to Puddy bleating about how liberals keep his people on the urban plantation.
Where did this meme come from? Is it a Beck thing? (The same commenter above went off on Soros and MediaMatters and the Tides foundation). It sounds like it predates Beck, though, somehow more Reagan-era, maybe a pivot from the “welfare queen” lie to something even more insidious.
It’s politically interesting, and potentially powerful, as it seeks to drive a wedge between urban and (mainly) African American voters and the rest of the Democratic coalition (the evil libruls of fable).
Any thoughts?
correctnotright spews:
@72: LS
I have heard this meme from Puddy and others – the idea is that the reason urban blacks (African Americans) have not been able to “lift themselves up by their bootstraps” like other ethnic groups is:
1. their own fault due to lack of initaitive
2. the lack of initiative is due to “liberals” who support the welfare state
Of course, this is another example of simplistic thinking and overriding ignorance of actual facts.
First, the key to getting out of poverty is a good education and urban schools are lousy not because of liberals but because we as a country do not value education or pay for it in an equitable manner.
Second, after 20 (of 28 years) years of republican Presidents (Reagan, Bush, (Clinton), Bush) – only Clinton significantly reformed welfare.
Third, there is the small matter of discrimination due to color – that republicans tend to ignore.
So this “meme” is a simple-minded attempt to blame “liberals” for actually wanting to do something about a problem that republicans prefer to ignore.
correctnotright spews:
initiative typo…., oh, well – shoot me for typing poorly.
correctnotright spews:
And wittle Pudgie – a pompous ass who could not argue his/her way out of a paper bag.
elie spews:
@56
That’s the point! What a frickin’ harebrain. And a routinely drunk one at that!
No wonder Goldy couldn’t make money with this audience!
Michael spews:
I’m pretty much done lampooning Pudge, it really wasn’t that much fun. The guy’s just an idiot.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@71 Strangely, they don’t have delicate sensitivities about pillaging, raping, looting, killing, or getting single-mom waitresses fired from their jobs for telling their rowdy kids to quiet down the riotous disruption they’re causing in the restaurant.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@73 “Third, there is the small matter of discrimination due to color – that republicans tend to ignore.”
Of course they ignore it, they’re the ones doing it.
And I find it very strange the Puddy supports a party that wants to take “his people” off the urban plantation and put ’em back on the cotton plantations.
(Repeal the 14th Amendment, anyone?)
Roger Rabbit spews:
@76 What’s wrong with reading print copies of free newspapers? You got something against that? Does everything in the whole frickin’ universe have to be copied-and-pasted?
sadie spews:
@80 You got something against that?
Ha! Only when you can’t figure cut and paste out! But, you know, it’s only 2011! Of course, it helps to be sober.
Ekim spews:
Google has a Jules Verne theme going on right now.
I don’t know how long it will be around so you better look now if you’re interested in such things…
http://www.google.com/
YLB spews:
You forgot the decades long conspiracy to kill blacks by “progressives” who run planned parenthood.
Yeah, he really believes that shit!
Undercover Brother spews:
at least i had the over so i didn’t get hurt too bad.
i also had the coin toss and first to score.
but lost the +2.5.
good game but poorly played by the Steelers.
i think the ratings was due to the economy…it seems the stronger the economy the more people have parties or go to vegas or something to that effect and when it is bad they stay home….simple really.
this summer will see a new CBA and TV deal for The League….could be real interesting for fans of the game.
Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:
@69
just die already…for fucks sake.
Chuckie Schumer and the 3 branches of gubmint spews:
I am simply amazed at the time some of you spend all damn day long going from site to site.
What a waste of time and energy. I guess its left up to the few of still working to pick up the slack for everyone else.