Weyerhauser announced today they’re shutting down a couple plants out in Greys Harbor. If you’ve been through Hoquerdeen lately, you know they don’t need that.
They call it stormy Monday, but Tuesday’s just as bad.
2
Roger Rabbitspews:
Why Conservatives Are Finished
Dividend cuts. The third wave. The first wave was corporations going to bankruptcy court to ditch their pension obligations to retirees. The second wave was the plunging stock market that wiped out trillions in individual retirement savings. Now, here come the dividend cuts to erase the retirement income of millions of the elderly.
A whole generation of young Americans is learning you can’t trust the private sector. You can’t count on having a job, you can’t count on private pensions, you can’t count on your savings being there. The only thing you can trust in this world is the government safety net, and then only if it’s run by Democrats. After the dust settles, the only old age security they’ll ever have that they can count on is Social Security and Medicare. And they know that conservatives despise those programs and want to destroy them — the last safety net there is.
And that’s why conservatives will never again be voted into power during the lifetimes of those now living. They are at least 75 years away from the next conservative revival.
3
Roger Rabbitspews:
Here’s the advice conservatives give to people for tough economic times: Work harder, put in more hours, don’t ask for a raise, and suck up to your boss — and maybe you’ll keep your job.
I say screw that and bring back strong unions and restore the government safety net.
4
Don Joespews:
Jon, if you’re going to do it, go to the original.
5
Roger Rabbitspews:
Corporations that renege on their pension obligations or cut dividends should be shot!*
Of course, Limbaugh admitted that he hopes Obama fails. Considering the sorry state the country is in after eight years of management under his preferred rules, I guess “failure” would have to constitute a collapse on the scale of the Great Depression.
Let’s think of what that would look like. Stock market tanks (well, it’s already done that). Pensions erased (ditto). Massive job losses (unemployment currently 7.5% as of the end of December, I’m thinking January is going to look much worse). Not quite at the 30%+ unemployment during the Hoover administration, but hey, the year’s still young.
And there’s something to remember about those unemployment numbers. A lot of people who were unemployed earlier this year will be dropping from the roles simply because their benefits are expiring. This leaves the false impression that unemployment is rising. Also, those who ordinarily would be looking for jobs (new graduates, homemakers who’s kids are now in school) aren’t even trying – they will never be counted. And since you can’t file for benefits the first two weeks after you lose a job, the current rash of layoffs won’t show up until February’s numbers are available, sometime in late March.
Anyway, that’s what Limbaugh wants for the U.S., just so he can say “I told you so”. What a pig.
8
slingshotspews:
@7 rhp, you said, “This leaves the false impression that unemployment is rising.”
I think you meant employment, no?
The gub’ment giggered the numbers some years ago. For real rates of inflation, employment, etc. go to http://www.shadowstats.com/ for the scoop on the poop.
9
rhp6033spews:
Yep, I meant employment. Thanks for the correction. I’ll check out the link.
Here’s the advice conservatives give to people for tough economic times: Work harder, put in more hours, don’t ask for a raise, and suck up to your boss — and maybe you’ll keep your job.
I say screw that and bring back strong unions and restore the government safety net.”
———————————————
Yup yup.
Model everything after the automakers.
Chimpy von Soros will fix it…..just as soon as he’s done protecting terrorists from the CIA, ensuring special rights for homos, and making sure we buy abortions for Africans.
Strange list of top priorities in this economy.
Must obey Chimpy.
do not question the minions of Soros.
All hail the community organizer.
ROFL!
Zombies.
12
Mr. Cynicalspews:
7. rhp6033 spews:
Of course, Limbaugh admitted that he hopes Obama fails.
Limbaugh said he hopes Obama fails with his Socialistic policies. Me too.
You KLOWNS love taking comments out of context to somehow weakly attempt to justify Socialism or anyone who dares challenge Obama.
I thought you KLOWNS promoted and encouraged Free Speech.
If folks fail to challenge Obama….not good.
13
Mr. Cynicalspews:
Puddy has some excellent points to make about Soros’ history.
He is a bad man…worse than what the KLOWNS claim to abhor.
Puddy has laid out a compelling case against Soros.
Fine Work Puddy.
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slingshotspews:
Nobody really gives a shit about Soros except the tin-foiled, Limbaugh uranus clingons.
15
rhp6033spews:
Cynical @ 12: Nope, not taken out of context. Limbaugh has already insisted that Obama is a radical, left-wing socialist. Then he says that he hopes Obama fails, but in the next sentence tries to qualify it a bit by saying “if he pursues his socialist policies”. To Limbaugh, they are inseperable. So that’s not a qualification.
What he SHOULD have said is that he “hopes and prays for is for Obama to succeed, because that is best for America, but he expects Obama to fail because his policies aren’t the best ones for the country.” I don’t agree with that statement, but it would at least be a palatable way of voicing the role as the traditional “loyal opposition”.
But Limbaugh didn’t say that. He said he hopes Obama fails. And there you see the real measure of the man.
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Don Joespews:
@ 13
Puddy has some excellent points to make about Soros’ history.
Hold that thought for a moment.
He[Soros] is a bad man.
Except that, other than the fact that you intellectual midgets don’t like how he spends his money, he is behaving in exactly the the way your philosophical and policy advocacy says he should behave.
You see, shitferbrains, you cannot both argue that George Soros is a “bad man” and argue in favor of your policy aims. Pick one or the other. Trying to argue both renders your argument completely incoherent.
17
Beat the Rushspews:
Time for the Big Guy at EIB (ExLax in Broadcasting) to hang up his big jock and to be jobless. Drudge has a recall petition to tweak the unemployment process (server’s on overload), and a counterstrike to Limbaugh’s Monday attack on McConnell and Boehner.
Rush Limbaugh was a Democrat sleeper cell who woke up in 1995 to fly his fat-cat jet into the Republican Party and to bring it down. Mission Accomplished.
Rush was wrong about Clinton (Bill beat him like a big drum); about impeachment (you don’t start a regicide you can’t finish); about the other Clinton (he said Hillary would never run for Senate; he said she couldn’t win when she ran for Senate). He was wrong about Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq, and Katrina.
Rush was wrong about McCain nine years ago: You thought Limbaugh spent his time beating up Democrats? Silly Rabbits! Limbaugh, who was too pilonidal to serve, spent most of a decade torturing McCain.
Rush was way wrong about W. W led Republicans over a cliff, and Rush led Republicans to W.
Now Rush is at war with Republican remnants, the party’s bits and pieces that survived a full frontal assault from Limbaugh’s private sleeper-cell jet.
Everybody else is to blame, he says, for the destruction of the Republican Party. Everybody else fell away from the true faith. Everybody else is an apostate. “I’m the last man standing,” he says, but means that he’s the last grandstanding.
And from the grandstand, behind the golden microphone, he spends much of every busy broadcast day beating up his former buddies and trying to explain his own bad jokes. Some of us remnant Republicans get his jokes, but we know that when it takes ten hours to feebly explain away a previous moment of bullshit, the shit’s hit the propeller and the crap/content ratio has tilted into the sewer.
The Republican Party is a quagmire, and Rush put up the diving board. Let him hang up his jock or let him use it to cover his fat ass, but get him out of here. Send him to Gitmo — he’s got the gear — or let him retire to lonely exile on the beach. But get him out of here before he knocks down the last men standing.
McConnell and Boehner have enough to worry about from nominal Democrats on the left. They don’t need to deal with a dead-head ditto-head stealth Democrat on the right.
18
Puddybud, Hey it's the New Year...spews:
Dingleberry@16: Don’t hold your thoughts. It will cause constipation and your small fentometer brain will overload.
You just don’t get it.
Soros calls for taxing the rich. Only thing is he’s rich and he’s hidden his money overseas in Curacao where it can’t be taxed moron!
If he was taxed like other rich peeps I’d care less how he wasted $27 Million to the losers of CAPped, Moron.org, Alteredman, or Daily Kooks.
So you can argue both, but to that intellectually challenged mind of Dingleberry@16 it’s tough to comprehend a reasoned argument.
Thanks. You always bring it to the HA table. Don’t let the fools get you down.
20
Beau Breedlove Drinks Sam Adamsspews:
Soros is a reptile. Glad he’s one of them instead of one of us, but he bought a president and all we got was this lousy blog.
Monson, yesterday, whacked Soros for being the plutocrat behind rad doc Paul Farmer, subject of UW’s first ‘common book.’ Farmer, despite his infatuation with Castro, has lived a good life. If Soros helped Farmer help the wretched of the earth, then good for Soros. It’s the only good thing he’s done with a life that’s gone on too long.
Rush was wrong to start a no-win war. Dale (?) David (?) Shippers, counsel to Congressional Republicans during Monicagate, wrote that Trent Lott was furious when the House ‘managers’ handed him articles of impeachment that Lott knew were losers. Trent Lott, with all his faults, at least knew how to count. Rush and the rest didn’t.
Unless, of course, Rush was a Democrat sleeper cell who used the blue dress to inflate Clinton’s favorables into the 60s. The more bent-dick Bill molested the hired help, the more popular he got.
Bottom line: Shakespeare is clear about killing a king. You don’t start a regicide you can’t finish.
23
Don Joespews:
Ditz @ 18
You just don’t get it.
Oh, I completely understand what you’re saying. What you complete morons don’t seem to understand is, the more you piss and moan about George Soros the more you completely undercut every conservative argument about Economic policies.
Here, try this: name one thing that George Soros has done that would have been stopped by any legislation that is congruent with Republican philosophy. You can’t. Other than the fact that he supports progressive causes, George Soros is the very embodiment of the Republican ideal of “Economic Man.”
Good for you. You proved he pays no taxes. Ther eis no moron here except you. The argument has ended. No need to answer anything else in #23 because the original thought was “Talk to me when Soros pays taxes”.
So there is no talking cuz he pays no taxes. There is no “you can’t”, because you haven’t fulfilled the initial question.
25
Don Joespews:
The little by with the fingers stuffed into his ears @ 24 cries Uncle:
So there is no talking cuz he pays no taxes.
Puddy, you don’t want to talk about the rhetorical implications of your hissy fit, but plenty of other folks have noticed that, well, once again, Joe the Don has kicked Puddy’s ass.
slingshot spews:
Weyerhauser announced today they’re shutting down a couple plants out in Greys Harbor. If you’ve been through Hoquerdeen lately, you know they don’t need that.
They call it stormy Monday, but Tuesday’s just as bad.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Why Conservatives Are Finished
Dividend cuts. The third wave. The first wave was corporations going to bankruptcy court to ditch their pension obligations to retirees. The second wave was the plunging stock market that wiped out trillions in individual retirement savings. Now, here come the dividend cuts to erase the retirement income of millions of the elderly.
A whole generation of young Americans is learning you can’t trust the private sector. You can’t count on having a job, you can’t count on private pensions, you can’t count on your savings being there. The only thing you can trust in this world is the government safety net, and then only if it’s run by Democrats. After the dust settles, the only old age security they’ll ever have that they can count on is Social Security and Medicare. And they know that conservatives despise those programs and want to destroy them — the last safety net there is.
And that’s why conservatives will never again be voted into power during the lifetimes of those now living. They are at least 75 years away from the next conservative revival.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Here’s the advice conservatives give to people for tough economic times: Work harder, put in more hours, don’t ask for a raise, and suck up to your boss — and maybe you’ll keep your job.
I say screw that and bring back strong unions and restore the government safety net.
Don Joe spews:
Jon, if you’re going to do it, go to the original.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Corporations that renege on their pension obligations or cut dividends should be shot!*
* Just kidding! Ann Coulter satire.
Better a donkey than a dunce spews:
This is the World According to Limbaugh.
Failure, corruption, incompetence, bankruptcy, never-ending debt.
rhp6033 spews:
Of course, Limbaugh admitted that he hopes Obama fails. Considering the sorry state the country is in after eight years of management under his preferred rules, I guess “failure” would have to constitute a collapse on the scale of the Great Depression.
Let’s think of what that would look like. Stock market tanks (well, it’s already done that). Pensions erased (ditto). Massive job losses (unemployment currently 7.5% as of the end of December, I’m thinking January is going to look much worse). Not quite at the 30%+ unemployment during the Hoover administration, but hey, the year’s still young.
And there’s something to remember about those unemployment numbers. A lot of people who were unemployed earlier this year will be dropping from the roles simply because their benefits are expiring. This leaves the false impression that unemployment is rising. Also, those who ordinarily would be looking for jobs (new graduates, homemakers who’s kids are now in school) aren’t even trying – they will never be counted. And since you can’t file for benefits the first two weeks after you lose a job, the current rash of layoffs won’t show up until February’s numbers are available, sometime in late March.
Anyway, that’s what Limbaugh wants for the U.S., just so he can say “I told you so”. What a pig.
slingshot spews:
@7 rhp, you said, “This leaves the false impression that unemployment is rising.”
I think you meant employment, no?
The gub’ment giggered the numbers some years ago. For real rates of inflation, employment, etc. go to http://www.shadowstats.com/ for the scoop on the poop.
rhp6033 spews:
Yep, I meant employment. Thanks for the correction. I’ll check out the link.
slingshot spews:
Here’s the meat & potatoes:
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data
Chimpy von Soros spews:
“3. Roger Rabbit spews:
Here’s the advice conservatives give to people for tough economic times: Work harder, put in more hours, don’t ask for a raise, and suck up to your boss — and maybe you’ll keep your job.
I say screw that and bring back strong unions and restore the government safety net.”
———————————————
Yup yup.
Model everything after the automakers.
Chimpy von Soros will fix it…..just as soon as he’s done protecting terrorists from the CIA, ensuring special rights for homos, and making sure we buy abortions for Africans.
Strange list of top priorities in this economy.
Must obey Chimpy.
do not question the minions of Soros.
All hail the community organizer.
ROFL!
Zombies.
Mr. Cynical spews:
7. rhp6033 spews:
Limbaugh said he hopes Obama fails with his Socialistic policies. Me too.
You KLOWNS love taking comments out of context to somehow weakly attempt to justify Socialism or anyone who dares challenge Obama.
I thought you KLOWNS promoted and encouraged Free Speech.
If folks fail to challenge Obama….not good.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Puddy has some excellent points to make about Soros’ history.
He is a bad man…worse than what the KLOWNS claim to abhor.
Puddy has laid out a compelling case against Soros.
Fine Work Puddy.
slingshot spews:
Nobody really gives a shit about Soros except the tin-foiled, Limbaugh uranus clingons.
rhp6033 spews:
Cynical @ 12: Nope, not taken out of context. Limbaugh has already insisted that Obama is a radical, left-wing socialist. Then he says that he hopes Obama fails, but in the next sentence tries to qualify it a bit by saying “if he pursues his socialist policies”. To Limbaugh, they are inseperable. So that’s not a qualification.
What he SHOULD have said is that he “hopes and prays for is for Obama to succeed, because that is best for America, but he expects Obama to fail because his policies aren’t the best ones for the country.” I don’t agree with that statement, but it would at least be a palatable way of voicing the role as the traditional “loyal opposition”.
But Limbaugh didn’t say that. He said he hopes Obama fails. And there you see the real measure of the man.
Don Joe spews:
@ 13
Puddy has some excellent points to make about Soros’ history.
Hold that thought for a moment.
He[Soros] is a bad man.
Except that, other than the fact that you intellectual midgets don’t like how he spends his money, he is behaving in exactly the the way your philosophical and policy advocacy says he should behave.
You see, shitferbrains, you cannot both argue that George Soros is a “bad man” and argue in favor of your policy aims. Pick one or the other. Trying to argue both renders your argument completely incoherent.
Beat the Rush spews:
Time for the Big Guy at EIB (ExLax in Broadcasting) to hang up his big jock and to be jobless. Drudge has a recall petition to tweak the unemployment process (server’s on overload), and a counterstrike to Limbaugh’s Monday attack on McConnell and Boehner.
Rush Limbaugh was a Democrat sleeper cell who woke up in 1995 to fly his fat-cat jet into the Republican Party and to bring it down. Mission Accomplished.
Rush was wrong about Clinton (Bill beat him like a big drum); about impeachment (you don’t start a regicide you can’t finish); about the other Clinton (he said Hillary would never run for Senate; he said she couldn’t win when she ran for Senate). He was wrong about Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq, and Katrina.
Rush was wrong about McCain nine years ago: You thought Limbaugh spent his time beating up Democrats? Silly Rabbits! Limbaugh, who was too pilonidal to serve, spent most of a decade torturing McCain.
Rush was way wrong about W. W led Republicans over a cliff, and Rush led Republicans to W.
Now Rush is at war with Republican remnants, the party’s bits and pieces that survived a full frontal assault from Limbaugh’s private sleeper-cell jet.
Everybody else is to blame, he says, for the destruction of the Republican Party. Everybody else fell away from the true faith. Everybody else is an apostate. “I’m the last man standing,” he says, but means that he’s the last grandstanding.
And from the grandstand, behind the golden microphone, he spends much of every busy broadcast day beating up his former buddies and trying to explain his own bad jokes. Some of us remnant Republicans get his jokes, but we know that when it takes ten hours to feebly explain away a previous moment of bullshit, the shit’s hit the propeller and the crap/content ratio has tilted into the sewer.
The Republican Party is a quagmire, and Rush put up the diving board. Let him hang up his jock or let him use it to cover his fat ass, but get him out of here. Send him to Gitmo — he’s got the gear — or let him retire to lonely exile on the beach. But get him out of here before he knocks down the last men standing.
McConnell and Boehner have enough to worry about from nominal Democrats on the left. They don’t need to deal with a dead-head ditto-head stealth Democrat on the right.
Puddybud, Hey it's the New Year... spews:
Dingleberry@16: Don’t hold your thoughts. It will cause constipation and your small fentometer brain will overload.
You just don’t get it.
Soros calls for taxing the rich. Only thing is he’s rich and he’s hidden his money overseas in Curacao where it can’t be taxed moron!
If he was taxed like other rich peeps I’d care less how he wasted $27 Million to the losers of CAPped, Moron.org, Alteredman, or Daily Kooks.
So you can argue both, but to that intellectually challenged mind of Dingleberry@16 it’s tough to comprehend a reasoned argument.
Puddybud, Hey it's the New Year... spews:
To Mr. Cynical@13,
Thanks. You always bring it to the HA table. Don’t let the fools get you down.
Beau Breedlove Drinks Sam Adams spews:
Soros is a reptile. Glad he’s one of them instead of one of us, but he bought a president and all we got was this lousy blog.
Monson, yesterday, whacked Soros for being the plutocrat behind rad doc Paul Farmer, subject of UW’s first ‘common book.’ Farmer, despite his infatuation with Castro, has lived a good life. If Soros helped Farmer help the wretched of the earth, then good for Soros. It’s the only good thing he’s done with a life that’s gone on too long.
Puddybud, Hey it's the New Year... spews:
Dude@17
Really? So it was your DNA on the blue dress?
Duuuuuuude! spews:
That was Blue Dress Bill on the blue dress.
Rush was wrong to start a no-win war. Dale (?) David (?) Shippers, counsel to Congressional Republicans during Monicagate, wrote that Trent Lott was furious when the House ‘managers’ handed him articles of impeachment that Lott knew were losers. Trent Lott, with all his faults, at least knew how to count. Rush and the rest didn’t.
Unless, of course, Rush was a Democrat sleeper cell who used the blue dress to inflate Clinton’s favorables into the 60s. The more bent-dick Bill molested the hired help, the more popular he got.
Bottom line: Shakespeare is clear about killing a king. You don’t start a regicide you can’t finish.
Don Joe spews:
Ditz @ 18
You just don’t get it.
Oh, I completely understand what you’re saying. What you complete morons don’t seem to understand is, the more you piss and moan about George Soros the more you completely undercut every conservative argument about Economic policies.
Here, try this: name one thing that George Soros has done that would have been stopped by any legislation that is congruent with Republican philosophy. You can’t. Other than the fact that he supports progressive causes, George Soros is the very embodiment of the Republican ideal of “Economic Man.”
Puddybud, Hey it's the New Year... spews:
Fool@23:
Good for you. You proved he pays no taxes. Ther eis no moron here except you. The argument has ended. No need to answer anything else in #23 because the original thought was “Talk to me when Soros pays taxes”.
So there is no talking cuz he pays no taxes. There is no “you can’t”, because you haven’t fulfilled the initial question.
Don Joe spews:
The little by with the fingers stuffed into his ears @ 24 cries Uncle:
So there is no talking cuz he pays no taxes.
Puddy, you don’t want to talk about the rhetorical implications of your hissy fit, but plenty of other folks have noticed that, well, once again, Joe the Don has kicked Puddy’s ass.