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State GOP tries to Floridate Washington

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Have you or anybody you know been disenfranchised by the WA State Republican Party? Download the list of all 1944 voters who have had their registration challenged, and look for yourself.

It took less than 24 hours of voter backlash before the GOP was forced to belatedly withdraw 140 of their challenges (PDF)… after these voters had already received notice that their votes would not count unless they attended an administrative hearing. That kind of sloppiness is already inexcusable when it comes to a citizen’s right to vote, but I betcha on closer examination we’ll find a helluva lot more “mistakes.”

As the GOP’s incredible fuckup has just illustrated, the process of cleaning the voter rolls has never been as simple as the Republicans have tried to make it out to be in their cynical and patently dishonest efforts disparage King County Records & Elections. And like all counties, King has never been nearly as hands off as the GOP’s lying press releases would lead you to believe. Indeed cleaning the ever changing voter rolls is a constant and time consuming process, especially in a county with over 1.1 million registrations, where thousands of voters are moving, marrying and dying every day.

According to a fact sheet produced by KCRE, the county routinely runs queries to screen out post office boxes, duplicate registrations and deceased voters. Since the last election:

  • Over 9,500 duplicate registrations have been merged.
  • Over 8,900 deceased have been removed from the voter rolls.
  • Over 73,000 registrations have been put on inactive status.

And that doesn’t even begin to count the thousands of new and canceled registrations and address changes that are processed every month. Some of these transactions are initiated by voters, others through the routine operations at KCRE. For example, take this anecdote I recounted back in August:

As a case in point, a friend of mine recently bought a house in West Seattle. I was over there for dinner the other night, and she told me how that very day, she had called King County Elections to change her address… and was surprised to learn that she was already registered at her new house! When she inquired how, she was told that they had mailed her a voter registration card, but that it was returned to KC Elections with a forwarding address; so they updated her records and mailed her a new card. Indeed, the new card was in her mailbox that very same day.

Talk about service. Call to change your registration, immediately look in your mailbox, and there’s your new voter registration card.

Now that’s the type of positive headline you’re never going to read

Comments

  1. 1

    If there weren’t any problems with it there wouldn’t be any issues. The elections office should just open itself up for inspection. A perfect election was never possible. Declining budgets, huge staff turnover, new methods of balloting, a huge increase in absentee ballots. Not everyone wants that election job at the offered salary. The headaches aren’t worth it.

    Make it simpler and all will be well. Show up at a polling place where you are registered and with a valid ID you can vote. Everyone else. SOL

  4. 4

    I don’t think these guys care if those 1900 or so voters are bogus. They just make a big noise now, and three weeks after the election, we’ll find out it was horseshit. This shit is evil. Many of these people live within blocks of me, and I’m certain they are rightly registered (for the most part, we’ll see) but what scares me is that the state GOP is wring so much of the time, and by a lot! Don’t fuck with my vote Mr. Vance, or get a bodyguard right quick*

  6. 6

    I’ve written a dKos diary that points to several of the posts about this mess. A similar diary was front-paged at Booman Tribune.

    Tough to keep up with this thing as it breaks, though.

    BTW, did you see how many of the lines in that spreadsheet are dupicates? There are actually 1855 unique Voter IDs — 14 of them appear four times, 1 shows up 3 times, and 45 are entered twice.

  7. 7

    Wow.. I must be amused at who they’ve challenged. In a sort by precinct and street name.. Top of the list is Algona City Councilman Paul Thomason.;) Granted, he is on the withdrawl list, but sheesh. That’s funny.

  8. 8

    From a party that pretends to want perfect elections, this is shameful.

    They don’t want perfect elections. They want republicans elected no matter what.

    I’m embarassed for my republican friends who support this crap.

  9. 9

    N in Seattle,

    Not only are there many duplicates, but there are also 535 that are already marked as Inactive.;) That drops the Republican list down to 1320 challenges.. Of that 1320, 140 are already confirmed as being wrong.;)

  11. 12

    This is showing that if you vote David Irons in, you’re only going to get a 60% accurate election.;)

  12. 13

    Goldy,

    The problem is that it IS far easier than KingCo will admit. A database of 1.1 million address records is TINY compared to advertising or fundraising databases & mailings. You could USPS address standardize the whole thing (and flag most PMB’s, PO Boxes and businesses) in less than an hour with the right software (~$1,000) and an off-the-shelf desktop PC. PMB’s and PO Boxes are in the USPS master address database and there is NO excuse for KingCo to even have one on file. Apartments and other multi-family dwelling units are also flagged in the USPS database as something totally different than PMB’s or boxes.

    That said, there is no excuse for KCGOP not getting the software, either.

    Just a quick look shows that some of these addresses are definitely in the USPS database as PMB’s — even though the clerk and/or registrant tried to make it look like an apartment. For example, 2442 NW Market Street is all PMB’s. However, I did find other highrises on the list, so the 140 or 170 aren’t the end of the story.

    And to all of you Lefties whining about selective geography, it appears that there are quite a few Eastside addresses, too.

  13. 14

    WOW….ONLY 1320 challenges? and by what margin did gregoire “win” by?
    it’s a thinker………..

  14. 15

    And… the software and database I refer to @ 13 can also be linked to the FRONT END of the registration system to correct addresses and flag illegal ones ON THE FLY AT TIME OF ENTRY.

  15. 16

    Except we already have evidence of at least 4 people that have been incorrectly screened using your logic, Mark.

    The Stranger article notes 4 people that live at a storage company. *shrug*

  16. 17

    OMG! Apparently, the state GOP fucked with a lawyer:

    From the Stranger:

    If you’re going to falsely declare, “under penalty of perjury,” that a person is an illegal voter, it’s probably wise to check beforehand and make sure that person isn’t a lawyer.”

    “Jeffrey Weber, an attorney with the downtown Seattle lawfirm Buck & Gordon, lives in a single-family house in West Seattle, nowhere near any storage units, with his wife, Lisa Christoffersen. Both are legally registered to vote, and when both received challenge letters from Sotelo, Weber quickly fired off an email to King County Prosecuting Attorney Norm Maleng, asking him to “prosecute Ms. Sotelo for perjury and to seek the maximum penalty allowed under law for this violation of our rights.” Mr. Maleng’s office, through a spokesman, said they were not involved in any legal action against Sotelo, “at this point.”

  17. 18

    Since I have no life, I’m going through the remaining 1300ish challenges and I’m finding a 20% error rate. If this error rate continues the challenged list drops to around 1000…

  18. 19

    “We’re off by less than 10 percent,” Vance said, establishing what appeared to be a lower standard of accuracy for his party than for the King County elections officials his party claims to be watch-dogging. “For having this done by volunteers and interns, this is very good work.”

    So, if our elections are administered with substantial help from volunteers, and one in ten votes is somehow screwed up by the volunteers…?

  19. 20

    Goldy,

    Thank you for posting the list of the 1943 GOP challenged voters, and the 140 voters that the GOP is withdrawing.

    AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR PROVING THAT RON SIMS AND DEAN LOGAN ARE LIARS! Their so-called “Fact Sheet” that you have also linked is anything but.

    Sims and Logan solemnly represented that they have removed all voter registrations for folks listed at private mailbox places. To quote: “King County regularly runs queries of its voter database that show if a voter is registered to a post office box or personal mail box.”

    However, the GOP list of 1943 voters appears to contain at least 1500 voters who are registered at private mail box places.

    Obviously, Ron Sims and Dean Logan are bald-faced liars.

  21. 22

    Richard@20 is RIGHT Goldy…
    Thanks for helping to convict Sims & Logan….it was mighty white of ya!
    CLOWNstein doesn’t mind a bit if ILLEGITIMATE voters vote.
    That’s ok…..since most of them are LEFTIST PINHEADS of his ilk.
    Since when are illegitimate voters not DISENFRANCHISING all legit voters Goldy????
    Since when are challenges illegal???
    After beating the “all that matters is the Law” drum during the Governor’s Race, you are now concerned about the moral high road????
    WOW….what a revival!!!!
    CLOWNS to the left of me—–
    —-Steeler’s Wheel

  22. 23

    Repub whiners stop by here I see.
    I just got back from spending the last 5 hours as an observer at the King Co Elections MBOS facility. Logic and accuracy testing for the accuvote system. Anyone who wishes to do the same for any part of the process can just show up and sign in as a citizen observer.

    There were Repub observers as well as the 3 people from the auditors (http://www.electioncenter.org/) former elections officials all.

    I suspect the King Co vote process is one of the most open and transparent in the country. It may also be one of the most complex election districts in the country.

    Raising doubts about the integrity of the vote in King Co is a win-win situation for the WA repubs since they regularly get their butt kicked in King Co.

    Democrats who want to help are encouraged to contact your legislative district chair to volunteer as an official observer at your local polling place, or at the depot locations in the outlying county locations. The depots are where the cards from the outlying polling places are read and called into the County Elections office. Those elderly geeks like me, who can tell what a modem is doing from the sounds it makes are encouraged to apply for this duty. :)

    RE the letters to voters, the county should procsecute the “undersigned” person on the affedavit, to the fullest extent of the law. Anyone who signs their name, swearing to the truth of the included statements, on such a document, should have their head examined and then be charged and booked when the challenge turns out to be baseless. We know that it is voter suppression but that is hard to prove… The false statement on a legal document charge is a slam dunk.

  23. 24

    Bobblehead @ 16: “Except we already have evidence of at least 4 people that have been incorrectly screened using your logic, Mark”

    You KNOW that they used the software I refer to in my post? You KNOW that they used the official USPS database?

    I can tell you that I KNOW that a number of those addresses listed are at PMB’s. Heck, some even say “PMB” in the address line.

    PMB’s and PO Boxes are “low hanging fruit.” The storage company is something that would need to be examined separately and manually.

  24. 25

    Bobblehead @ 18: “I’m going through the remaining 1300ish challenges and I’m finding a 20% error rate.”

    What resource are you using for your verification?

  25. 26

    Declining budgets, huge staff turnover, new methods of balloting, a huge increase in absentee ballots. Not everyone wants that election job at the offered salary. The headaches aren’t worth it.

    I can see your point. Most of the poeple that live in Seattle are dumbasses. Just look at who they vote for and the public schools. It must be hard if you cant count.

  26. 27

    It is critically important to note that of the 1100 Seattle Voter registration’s being challenged the OVERWHELMING majority are private mailboxes. In fact, that rings true for the supermajority of voters on the list. If the GOP had done their homework, it would have been quite simple to discover that these people have private mailboxes to protect themselves from identity theft.

    This is absolutely pathetic, and is an attempt to undermine the legal and political system. I would like to see them challenge the large number of Eastern Washington Rural voters who have no other option for receiving mail other than private mail boxes.

    A simple superpages.com search discovered that 13310 NE 177th PL in Woodinville is a mailing center. 6 voters registrations from these legal private mailboxes have been challenged. Below is the information.

    Mailbox-Woodinville more info
    13110 NE 177th Pl
    Woodinville, WA 98072
    (425) 483-0360

    Another 3 voters registrations are being challenged for Mail Boxes Etc. address at 14241 NE Woodinville Duvall Rd.

    Mail Boxes Etc
    Woodinville
    Woodinville, WA
    14241 NE Woodinville Duvall Rd
    Woodinville, WA 98072
    (425) 486-6245
    14241 NE Woodinville Duvall Rd
    Woodinville, WA 98072
    (425) 486-6245

    A shocking 49 voter registrations are being challenged for having private mailboxes at Pony Express at 16541 Redmond Way.

    Pony Express more info
    16541 Redmond Way
    Redmond, WA 98052
    (425) 881-2449

    8 voters challenged at another Mail Boxes Etc, on Aurora.
    Mail Boxes Etc
    Seattle
    Seattle, WA
    10002 Aurora Ave N
    Seattle, WA 98133
    (206) 527-5065

    4 voters challenge at Bellevue’s The Mail Box.
    Mail Box The more info
    10020 Main St
    Bellevue, WA 98004
    (425) 453-9019

    22 voters challenged at First Hill Postal/Packaging Service.
    First Hill Postal/Packaging Service more info
    1011 Boren Ave
    Seattle, WA 98104
    (206) 623-9454

    Yet another 20 voters challenged at Mail Boxes & More in Bellevue

    Mail Boxes & More more info
    1075 Bellevue Way NE
    Bellevue, WA 98004
    (425) 462-1162

    An abysmal 94!!! That’s right 94!!! Registrations challenged at Post Options Business Center in Seattle

    Post Options Business Center-Fax Line more info
    1122 E Pike St
    Seattle, WA 98122
    (206) 324-8124

    14 challenged at Kirkland’s Mail Boxes Etc.

    Mail Boxes Etc
    Kirkland
    Kirkland, WA
    11410 NE 124th St
    Kirkland, WA 98034
    (425) 823-3198

    20 more at Keep Posted in Seattle

    Keep Posted more info
    117 E Louisa St
    Seattle, WA 98102
    (206) 323-3711

    17 at The Mail Clinic in Issaquah (Where Alex Rodriguez had his secure, private mailbox while he was a Seattle Mariner)

    Mail Clinic Gilman-Issaquah more info
    1420 NW Gilman Blvd
    Issaquah, WA 98027
    (425) 392-0888

    All this after less than a half hour of work.

  27. 28

    They just make a big noise now, and three weeks after the election, we’ll find out it was horseshit. This shit is evil. Many of these people live within blocks of me, and I’m certain they are rightly registered (for the most part, we’ll see) but what scares me is that the state GOP is wring so much of the time, and by a lot!

    No what you donks did in the governors race is evil. What you dont like the GOP digging through the public records…. FUCK YOU. You assholes are going to hear about it until 2008.

  28. 29

    KenCLOWN@23 sez
    “I just got back from spending the last 5 hours as an observer at the King Co Elections MBOS facility. Logic and accuracy testing for the accuvote system.”

    BIG FUCKING DEAL!! That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the voter registration list or actual PROCESSING of ballots you idiot. All it says it that the ballots stuffed into the machine are accurately counted. I have observed L&A tests numerous times. You intentionally deflected from the point here which is WHO’s vote gets counted.
    Did I tell you that you are a FUCKING IDIOT???

    Is this what Ken the CLOWN also does?

    “… Monday, May 30, 2005 at 1:26:13 PM Happy birthday to Josh, who is 4 today!
    We have had a lovely day at his party with Krazy Ken the Clown”

  29. 30

    It just gets stranger and stranger.

    I’m looking at the 140 cancellations.

    The first name on the list is shown with Voter ID = 91647, but that same person’s Voter ID is shown on the original list as 10068878. Even accounting for the fact that Voter IDs show the year of registration as the first two digits (and Excel’s penchant for stripping off leading zeros … the person registered in 2001), those numbers are completely different.

    It’s the same for every name I’ve cross-checked … no relationship whatsoever between the Voter IDs on the two lists.

    I note also that the second name on the cancellation list appears in the original list four times. Which one of those listings are they cancelling?

  30. 31

    The “low hanging fruit” is SOOOO obvious, makes you wonder what other kind of crap is going on in the voter rolls. KCRE is one messed up place. Thanks to Mr. Ass for spotlighting how voters are getting HOSED by Ron Sims.

  31. 32

    Mark @ 24

    I didn’t say they were using your logic.. I said using your logic 4 would have been screened out incorrectly. Those 4 people live at a Storage company and therefore, have that storage company as their address.

    Mark @ 25

    My resource of verification is:

    1. A Google search on the address. If it returns a business address move to the next entry.
    2. If it doesn’t return an address, open google maps and see what building is located at the address. If it appears to be a non-residential building, move to the next entry.
    3. If it appears to be a residential building, go to dexonline and perform a search on the name. If name comes up with same address, mark as confirmed error.
    4. If name does not come up, mark as possible error.

    Seeing how 3 and 4 are already outside of the Republicans criteria, that criteria being a place where mailboxes can be located, those are counted in the 20% error rate previously mentioned.

    Plus side, you’ll be glad to know that the error rate is back to the 10% rate mentioned by the Republican party.

  32. 33

    anonymous @ 26: “I would like to see them challenge the large number of Eastern Washington Rural voters who have no other option for receiving mail other than private mail boxes.”

    The question is one of MAILING address vs. PHYSICAL RESIDENTIAL address. You can have a residential address that is unable to receive mail. You are required to register with your PHYSICAL address (even if non-mailable) and then provide a mailing address.

    Bobblehead @ 31

    Your system is more quick-and-dirty than accurate. Just because an address is listed with Dexonline doesn’t mean it is or isn’t a residential address. You can monkey with your Yellow Pages entry by giving Qwest different “service” and “mailing” address information and telling them which to put in the file they sell to the directories. (BTW, Qwest no longer owns Dex).

  33. 34

    Bobblehead @ 31: “I said using your logic 4 would have been screened out incorrectly.”

    Under the system I mentioned, the four addresses would have been flagged as businesses, but not necessarily as PMB’s or boxes. PMB’s and boxes would be instant flags while businesses would merely be marked as questionable (for the KCGOP to visit in person).

  34. 35

    Goldy

    If, as you said since the last election:

    Over 9,500 duplicate registrations have been merged.
    Over 8,900 deceased have been removed from the voter rolls.
    Over 73,000 registrations have been put on inactive status.

    WHY WASN’T THAT DONE BEFORE THE LAST ELECTION?????

    Oh, maybe they needed those for the queen.

  35. 36

    Another thing I’m noticing about the list is that some of the people using Postmail boxes have RV Parks listed as the C/o. My parents are RVers and they’ve met a fair number of people that do not have a house, but rather live out of their RV.

    This makes me wonder, how many others on the list are RVers. But hey.. Seeing how the vast majority of RVers are Republican…. :)

  36. 37

    Mark,

    It’s not dex that tells me it’s a residential address, it’s the satellite picture of the address that tells me it is a residential address. If the flag points at a house *gasp*, it’s a residential address. If it points at a parking lot, then it’s probably a business.

    Here’s my most recent potential error:

    http://maps.google.com/maps?oi.....Moines,+WA

  38. 39

    Darn. I’m not on the list. I was hoping to sue WSRP, Vance, and the individual filing the challenge against me. I could use some extra money.

  39. 40

    @1

    “If there weren’t any problems with it there wouldn’t be any issues.”

    How naive can you be? Do you think the Republicans need to find real voting problems before they intimidate and suppress Democratic voters?

  40. 41

    @3

    I just wish the Rethugs would stage a mob scene at my polling place, like they did in Miami, so I could legally beat the shit out of them.

  41. 42

    @14

    “WOW….ONLY 1320 challenges? and by what margin did gregoire “win” by? it’s a thinker……….. ”

    Whaddya wanna bet most of the legitimate challenges on that list turn out to be Republicans, just as most illegal felon votes are for the GOP?

  42. 43

    @20

    “Obviously, Ron Sims and Dean Logan are bald-faced liars.”

    Another possibility, Richard, is that you’re an exceedingly sloppy fact-checker — way too sloppy to be elected to a Port Commissioner or to hold any other public office.

  43. 44

    @23

    “I suspect the King Co vote process is one of the most open and transparent in the country. It may also be one of the most complex election districts in the country.”

    Of the over 3,000 counties in the U.S., King County ranks No. 2 in the number of absentee ballots handled. Only Los Angeles County handles more absentee ballots.

  45. 46

    Reply to 35

    “Over 9,500 duplicate registrations have been merged.
    Over 8,900 deceased have been removed from the voter rolls.
    Over 73,000 registrations have been put on inactive status.

    WHY WASN’T THAT DONE BEFORE THE LAST ELECTION?????”

    Because the status of these voters changed AFTER the last election, moron?

  46. 47

    In a way, it’s a good thing, because this will discredit Chris Vance and the Washington State GOP — and show them for the lying blowhard jackasses they really are — far more than anything the Democrats ever could have said or done. A lot of people will figure, “If they were so wrong about this, then all the stuff they said last spring about the Rossi-Gregoire race probably was wrong, too.”

  47. 48

    Mr. Cynical = apologist for voter intimidation and vote suppression … the un-American prick

  48. 49

    Bobble @ 37

    On quick check, that address appears NOT to be a PMB or box. I did a Google Earth flyover and it appears to be a vacant lot (at least when the photo was shot). It could be that the actual address is offset slightly from the mapped one.

    Again, to be CRITICAL of KCGOP, they could have at least used Google Earth if they didn’t want to go in person. I’m more annoyed by the fact that they didn’t do a 110% quality job than the fact that they did it at all.

  49. 50

    Bobble @ 37

    My reply is stuck in FilterHell. Suffice it to say that the address does NOT show in the USPS database as a PMB or box. A Google Earth flyover shows a vacant lot, but the actual residence could be offset from the mapped address.

    KCGOP has NO excuse for at least using Google Earth if they didn’t want to go in person. I’m far more annoyed that they didn’t do top quality job than by the fact that they did it at all.

  50. 51

    WTF??!!! FilterHell AGAIN!

    GOLDY! Please fix this!

    There was nothing even CLOSE to objectionable in my post!

  51. 52

    46

    That is true. I bet ya a lot of registed democrats all of a sudden became deceased after the election… hehehehe.

  53. 54

    Bobblehead @ 37

    I’ve tried to post a couple of times, but keep getting filtered.

    The address, by my research, does NOT show as a PMB or box. Could be a residence, business or vacant. G**gleEarth shows it as a vacant lot, but the actual residence mapping might be slightly off. Neighborhood could have a home there.

    There is NO excuse for KC GOP to not at least G*E the addresses if they didn’t want to go in person. Looks like they did a quick-and-dirty manual job instead of using good database procedures.

  54. 55

    Bobblehead @ 37

    Filtered AGAIN!

    OK… quickly. I show no box, but it could be res, bus or vacant. GooogleEarth shows vacant lot, but a house-like structure near plotted point.

    Looks like the challenger(s) didn’t do as good a job as they could have.

  55. 56

    BH @ 37

    FilterHELL! Try one last time…

    You example may or may not be house, but isn’t a box. GoooogleEarth shows it as vacant lot, but house could be nearby. Challengers did shoddy job. I’m disappointed in effort, but not stated intent.

  57. 58

    THE VIGIL CONTINUES – DAY 4

    So, Stefan, if you win your PDA lawsuit against KCRE and the judge awards you monetary penalties and attorney fees, are you going to SHARE the proceeds with the generous donors who paid for your lawsuit or keep all the money for yourself?

  58. 59

    Speaking of Sucky Politics and Stefan Shitass, here’s what he posted on his useless blog today:

    “Lunatic fringe blogs spread false and unsubstantiated rumors”

    “My good friend Dan Savage at The Stranger regrettably jumped the gun and rebroadcast an as yet unsubstantiated claim by an anonymous poster … challenged by the GOP … the poster insists that they live at a Belltown apartment building, all 60 of whose residents were falsely challenged. At this point we don’t know the address of the alleged apartment building, so we don’t know whether this is real or not. The lack of verifiable details hasn’t stopped the various disreputable leftwing blogs from running with the story.”

    Hmmmm.

    Then a little later, Stefan Shitass posts:

    “UPDATE: The … GOP admitted and apologized for mistakenly challenging some number of voters. Nevertheless, The Stranger blog still posts some false information about this case that is making its way through the loonie left hysteria mill –”

    Got a little egg on your face, don’t you, ya fucking apologist for GOP thuggery.

  59. 60

    Challenge them all; make us all go in and prove we are legit.

    Do it every 10 years to purge the dead people, aliens, double voters. Kind of like reformatting your hard drive.

  60. 61

    Hey Stefan — I know you read HorsesAss — so how about it … if you get awarded penalties and attorney fees against King County, are you going to reimburse the donors who paid for your lawsuit or keep all the money for yourself?

  61. 62

    What’s really fascinating about Stefan Shitass’s post on Sucky Politics, though, is the reader comments — in no small part because no less a personage than Chris Rants himself was posting on S.P. this afternoon (can you spell d-a-m-a-g-e c-o-n-t-r-o-l?). To wit:

    “The King County GOP, with the support and assistance of the WSRP, challenged the registrations of 1,943 people our research indicated were registered to vote illegally. Today, we are rescinding 140 of those challenges that were made in error.
    We apologize for the small number of errors we made, but we stand by this effort. Last year, King County counted thousands of illegal votes. They have shown no willingness to prevent this from happening again so we will continue to aggressively work to make sure that only legal votes are counted. It is not us, but Ron Sims and Dean Logan who owe the people of King County an apology. Chris Vance

    Posted by Chris Vance at November 4, 2005 04:02 PM”

    Some apology, Chris, you fucking thug!! All the time you Republicans talk about “responsibility” so how about taking some for your screwup, asshole. Instead of blaming your incompetence on Sims and Logan. God, Chris, you’re a piece of work.

  62. 63

    But the really precious comments came from Joshua H., who posted:

    “First Scooter Libby, now Linda Soleto… you Republicans don’t know when to stop defending perjury, do you? Posted by Joshua H at November 4, 2005 05:42 PM”

    and Joanne, who posted:

    “Look, the truth of the matter is this, David Irons is getting his ass kicked all over King County by Ron Sims and so Republicans did what Republicans always do, they tried to steal an election by disenfranchising thousands of voters in Seattle. Nothing new here. I just wish you people would quit being such sore losers and accept defeat with grace. Posted by joanne at November 4, 2005 07:46 PM”

    Good work, you two! You tell ’em, Joanne!

  63. 64

    HEY STEFAN I KNOW YOU READ THIS BLOG — SO HOW ABOUT IT — ARE YOU GOING TO SHARE THE JUDGMENT WITH THE DONORS WHO PAID FOR YOUR LAWSUIT OR KEEP ALL THE MONEY FOR YOURSELF??

  64. 65

    To Chris Vance: Your “Integrity Project” failed. Intimidation of voters without cause is illegal. Your timing is impeccable just days before the election to prevent just enough votes for Ron Sims in order to get your candidate, David “Mother Beater” Irons to win the election. I HOPE YOU AND LAURIE SOLITO ARE SUED FOR HARASSMENT AND INTERFERENCE OF CIVIL RIGHTS. INTENTIONAL INTERFERENCE OF VOTING RIGHTS. TO THOSE IN BELLTOWN SUE THE BASTARDS NAMING CHRIS VANCE AND LAURIE SOLITIO FOR INTERFERING WITH YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE AS HARASSMENT AND INTIMIDATION.

  65. 66

    So how about it Stefan? You said on your blog that your lawsuit against KCRE is being paid for by donations to your “legal action fund.” RCW 42.17.340(4) allows the judge to award you penalties (up to $100 a day) and attorney fees in you prove your case. If you get a monetary recovery are you going to reimburse your donors, or pocket the money and walk away from your supporters leaving them with an empty bag? How about it Stefan, what’s your answer?

  68. 69

    http://thepoliticalteen.net/20.....onbattery/

    Aaah, very funny:

    A Halloween costume donned by a teacher at Lake Ann Elementary scared up a complaint from a parent spooked by its political message.

    David Micinski, Benzie Central superintendent, said a parent who was at the school for Monday’s Halloween festivities took issue with the teacher’s costume – a mask depicting President George W. Bush and a shirt that allegedly read “I am evil.”

    Can we have a Ron Sims w/ that? Maybe a Dean Logan w/ that?

  69. 70

    Hey Truth Teller, if you’re one of those wrongfully challenged voters, add “intentional infliction of emotional distress” to your complaint — that one might be worth $50,000 in damages against Soleto and KCGOP.

  70. 71

    @61

    I gave to Halliburton … and Bechtel … and Exxon … and Enron … and the drug companies … but not willingly.

  71. 72

    Roger @ 63

    Too bad you didn’t “give” to the cosmetics industry or a pregnancy test, Bunny Boy.

  75. 76

    RUFUS “Yep you donks give fraudulent ballots and the repubs taketh away.”

    Unfortunately, DieBold ignores it all and votes for any fascist on the ballot.

  76. 77

    Stephen only earns his illgotten cash if he dances naked on the internet.

    Dance Minnow, Dance!

  77. 78

    Over 73,000 registrations have been put on inactive status

    If any of these people vote, King County will let you go back and canvas them and count their votes. Canvassers can fix bad signatures at the same time. There really isn’t a solid deadline that declares a person a voter or not a voter. Thus the system erodes in close elections.

  78. 79

    There is an honest question that the voting system in King County is flawed and open for abuse. Quite a few people think so. It does no harm to do a review of the process and correct mistakes and make examples of fraudulent voters. It makes a democracy stronger. You should be contributing money to Stephan’s cause. He will get it done cheaper then the 2 mil on tap.

    If sims wins the solution is to keep Logan on tap and let him get some experience in elections. he is still naive about them.

  79. 80

    68

    Did you know DieBold made one arm bandits. I played one recently and won. And the best part is I didn’t have to pay any taxes on my winnings.

  80. 81

    RUFUS @ 72

    I rest my case. Repugs could not win an honest election for Dog Catcher without having the votes tallied by fellow Repugs.

    Times are a changing, and the facsists are going DOWN!

    HURRAH for Democracy! Death to the Traitor Neo-Cons!

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    @80

    The only way you can legally not pay taxes on gambling winnings is if you lost more than you won … so, Doofus, that means you’re either a tax evader or a LOSER.

  82. 83

    For all you LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS all lathered up about almost everything……….
    Mrs. Sotelo corrected her error as soon as she became aware of it.
    How many of these 140 challenged voters will not vote because of the error??? What is the damage? By now, the list and information is very public. The people on this list either know or “should have known” that this challenge is an error. Good luck Rabbit with your pursuit of a Grand Jury investigation. It will not fly. On voter registrations, people NUST disclose their Residential Address unless they apply for Address Confidentiality Program.
    You CLOWNS are like a swarm of Piranha’s.
    I can’t wait to see one of these 140 erroneously challenged voters stand up in Court and say they did not vote because of this challenge.

  83. 84

    “Jeffrey Weber, an attorney with the downtown Seattle lawfirm Buck & Gordon, lives in a single-family house in West Seattle, nowhere near any storage units, with his wife, Lisa Christoffersen. Both are legally registered to vote, and when both received challenge letters from Sotelo, Weber quickly fired off an email to King County Prosecuting Attorney Norm Maleng, asking him to “prosecute Ms. Sotelo for perjury and to seek the maximum penalty allowed under law for this violation of our rights.” Mr. Maleng’s office, through a spokesman, said they were not involved in any legal action against Sotelo, “at this point.”

    Comment by Belltowner— 11/4/05 @ 7:25 pm
    Belltowner does jeffrey weber or any of his family member rent a spot in the said storage unit? Hell some of the biggest criminals are doctors, lawers, politicians, and millionaires.

  84. 85

    Josef—
    Excellent work my friend in disclosing the fact that a SIMS Campaign adviser, FATLAND, is boning the source of CLOWNstein’s BIG SCOOP!!! Something tells me that CLOWNstein knew this all along and “conveniently” omitted it from the truth and whole truth. Typical. You busted CLOWNstein for his SHITSQUAD tactics at their worst!!!!

    And Rog—
    C’mon. Your an attorney. How many of these 140 will not vote because of Mrs. Sotelo’s error? The error was publicly corrected. A number of those folks already know they can vote.
    In the end, it is much ado about nothing. No one will stand before us under oath and say they didn’t vote because of this. No one!!!
    So go ahead you LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS…..hurl yourselves on the ground and feign damage. It is what you are best at….acting offended at anything you disagree with. There is no damage. I’m glad these legitimate voters can vote. It’s the way it should be. But what about the others that are illegally registered?????? Ohhhhhhhhh, I get it….ignore these. Logan basically put the onus on citizens to challenge voter registration….despite the fact that virtually every other County follows up on obvious illegal registrations like mailbox services and storage warehouses WITHOUT A FORMAL CHALLENGE!!!!
    If Sims loses================LOGANCLOWN is FIRED!!!!
    If David Irons wins=========LOGAN CLOWN IS FIRED!!!!!!!!
    That’s good enough for me!
    Everything starts with competent Elections in a Representative form of Government you CLOWNS!

  85. 86

    CLOWNstein sez at SoundPolitics (nice of you to post on a professional Blog David):
    ” Reporters at both the Times and the P-I had most of the information I have… they have the names of the women involved in these incidents, and obviously, they couldn’t get them to talk on the record either.”

    So how does CLOWNstein know what reporters at the Times and TASS have???? Are these fine masters of professional journalism sharing confidential information with a FRINGE LUNATIC LEFTIST PINHEADED BLOGGERCLOWN named David CLOWNstein???

    I believe that the Sims Campaign feeds CLOWNstein….CLOWNstein posts and then the losers at the Times & P-I jump on it. This is a well-orchestrated sham!!

    Thank you CLOWNstein for busting yourself…..again with the insight on what “reporters” at the TImes and P-I have.
    You are truly a CLOWN!!

    So your BIG SCOOP source of this thread is BONING one of Sims Campaign manager’s??!!! That’s just great Goldy.

  86. 87

    “And the best part is I didn’t have to pay any taxes on my winnings.”

    Which, by the way, is a violation of the law.

  87. 88

    klake @ 84 said “Belltowner does jeffrey weber or any of his family member rent a spot in the said storage unit? Hell some of the biggest criminals are doctors, lawers, politicians, and millionaires. ”

    An not surprisingly ALL of the biggest criminals are REPUBLICANS

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    Bobble @ 37

    My reply is stuck in FilterHell. Suffice it to say that the address does NOT show in the USPS database as a PMB or box. A Google Earth flyover shows a vacant lot, but the actual residence could be offset from the mapped address.

    KCGOP has NO excuse for at least using Google Earth if they didn’t want to go in person. I’m far more annoyed that they didn’t do top quality job than by the fact that they did it at all.

    Comment by Mark — 11/4/05 @ 9:26 pm

    Yo dumbfuck – the first time I saw Google earth, I was at work, we googled our address (one of the largest buildings in the U-District) and it got address wrong by a 1/2 block. Hardly an authoritative source when it come to a fishing expedition to disenfranchise legal voters.

    I wouldn’t piss on you sorry Rethug assholes if you were on fire…

  89. 90

    80

    The only way you can legally not pay taxes on gambling winnings is if you lost more than you won … so, Doofus, that means you’re either a tax evader or a LOSER.

    I am telling you the truth rabbit. The same rays beamed down from the mother ship that affected the diebold voting machines also rewrote the software in the diebold gambling machines. This is common donk knowledge. Come on get with it.

  90. 91

    roger @42 said “Whaddya wanna bet most of the legitimate challenges on that list turn out to be Republicans, just as most illegal felon votes are for the GOP?”
    just as most illegal felon votes are for the GOP? where do you get this crap? that is just a complete LIE.show us the stats………can you?
    now i know how fond you are of stretching the truth.but this, on top of your obvious lack of knowledge the other day about the requirments to be a judge…..and you are supposedly a lawyer?
    now i know why you have so much time on your paws bunny-kins…..you are just a legal gopher and you sit and play all day.
    you aren’t really a lawyer…..you just play one on the web.

  91. 92

    Here’s another wrinkle to this that nobody above has covered.

    There are 250,000 American expats in BC. When these people register to vote, they are required by law to register in the last state they lived in before leaving the country. You can bet some large fraction of them (yours truly included) moved up from Washington…which means that they are on the Washington voter rolls, even though they have no physical address.

    Beside that, many Americans in Vancouver who do business in the US (have clients, own property, trade, etc.) rely on PMBs and storage units in northern Washington in order to manage their US affairs. (Again, I qualify here.)

    So one of these clowns is going to look at my PMB and my storage unit and the fact that my last physical address in WA was a house 60 miles from either, and I’m going to find myself on this list.

    If that happens, Jeffrey Weber will find himself with another client. And in due time, with any luck, I might just end up with a Washington home address after all — the one that now belongs to Lori Satelo.

    Sweet thought. Can’t hardly wait. Bet it’s a nice house, too.

  92. 93

    Is there a reason why only King County voters are being harrassed, excuse me, listed on this list. Shouldn’t we extend this to Spokane County and Thurston County and even little Whitman County? Is this because we on the east side of mountains don’t mean anything, or because the folks here, both legal and illegal, tend to vote republican?
    This is nothing but harrassment of voters just before an election, and those most responsible should be arrested, arraigned (just like poor old Tom DeLay), and go to court so that they might explain this “deviation” from the state law stating that these challenges must be made by a person, with personal knowledge of the situation. Now if they can find aproximately 1900 individuals who would be willing to swear, under penalty of perjury, that they personally know one person each on the list that are, by state law, not allowed to vote, I would actually get tv cable back so I could watch it on the government channel. Then, I might believe it. But probably not.

  93. 94

    Mrs. Robinson…….your comment is really too silly to even bother with…but i will anyway.
    you would have a reason and grounds to sue why??????
    you, by your own admission do not live in washington, and i can tell you right now that your name absolutely belongs on that list for that reason.
    sue……………what a joke.
    goldy……your brain trust is loose again……….

  94. 95

    xmasgoat you ignorant nut. do you know anything about election laws and legal/illegal votes? lol did not think so…..did King County run you out here for solicitation on 1st and Pike again?

  95. 96

    armchair lawyer @94

    Can you cite a law that says U.S. citizens living in foreign countries lose their right to vote?

  96. 97

    pretend lawyer@ 96..you have to be a resident of the state to vote in the state. and a resident of the US to vote in presidential elections. this “mrs. robinson” [probably also known as yet another RR poser] was obviously not transfered to BC by the US government so, yes, it would be illegal for her to vote in washington state.she didn’t state that she still owned a house in washington.
    i do too…..you want me to come up and for this year?????
    i didn’t think so………..

  97. 98

    my sister and her husband – who live in a HOUSE and have lived there for years made it on this list. the election office person could not answer her questions. and they are both republicans. they told her that her vote would be “set-aside” and not be counted. SHE has to take the time to go down to the king county elections office and prove her residence (near as she could tell) what a crock. thus, those who a) don’t vote because they recieved a certified letter – that they had to sign for woun’t be counted. b)vote, but don’t take the time and expense to go prove their residence address won’t be counted c) etc. so by merely challenging these votes (minus a few retractions) these guys have eliminated most of the challenged voters from being counted. jeezz

  98. 99

    King County Republicans – If You Can’t Win, Cheat!
    The King County Republicans, engaged in a tight reelection race with Democrat Ron Sims and falling fast in the latest polls, called Katherine Harris and the Florida Republican Party this week for some advice and how to squeak out a tight election.
    Their s

  99. 100

    I was one of the challenged voters. I have lived in my home for 13 years and always vote. It is and was a BIG deal. When I arrived to vote I was flagged and redirected to a special area to get my provisional ballet. The head of the elections for my voting area has known me for about 25 years and she can attest under “penalty of perjury” that I live where I live. Lori can’t. And the hot line set up for us was, was, was … They know nothing, knew nothing, and about now are sick of answereing the phones. I get to wait for MY letter to tell me how to respond to this challenge, take time out of MY life and let her “prove” her self right. Who’s going to pay me for my time? How ’bout the costs to the people of Washinton?
    Right now, my vote won’t make a difference to the election. I effectively have not voted until I appear at the hearing. That’s real democracy folks. 10% error rate 3 days before the election is bullshit. Oh and by the way, this is MY party!! yup, I’m a Republican.

  101. 102

    Wow…you dems are probably bigger hypocrites than the repubs. I used to vote dem quite often…but after the last 8 years of bitchin and whining…I can’t stomach dems anymore. The holier than thou attitude is getting old. Dems are just as devious and sneaky as repubs. I would be more impressed dems admitted when they screwed up and made moves to prevent it from happening again. The repubs seem to do that a lot more than the dems these days.

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