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I keep hearing that liberals like me are the real danger to America, yet unlike Republican congressional nominee Stephen Broden (TX-30), I don’t hear anybody on our side threatening to win by violence what they can’t win at the polls. Huh.
Michael spews:
Tea Baggers are 15 percenters. Even if the Republicans take both houses the baggers will lose as they support crack pots (crack pipes?) like O’Donnell who’s down by 17% in DE, Dan Maes who’s going down in flames in CO and Paladino in NY who’s down by 24%.
The baggers don’t support Republicans, like Olympia Snow, that can actually govern.
Michael spews:
Oops, that’s Snowe. Forgot the e.
MikeBoyScout spews:
Fox News commenter and regular Friday nights guest-host on The O’Reilly Factor, Juan Williams, has no fear of people in teabagging garb who identify themselves first and foremost as teabaggers.
YLB spews:
1 – The baggers are just somewhat disaffected Republicans. I see them running everywhere on the Republican ticket. Huh????
In my view – they’re just Republicans! The regular Republicans routinely move to the right at election time to co-opt eruptions like the earl greys.
Ok there’s one guy on the ballot in Nevada that the Angle people are calling all kinds of names. Beyond that what is there????
sarge spews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Hhqu3frUQ
spyder spews:
Whack-a-Teabagger sounds like a fun game to me. Can i find it at my local carny?
Michael spews:
@4
Nah, at this point only a small % of R’s are willing to call themselves baggers and they tend to throw their weight behind nutters. Nutters that will go down in flames in the general election. And that will be the end of the Tea Baggers.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@1 The fact that 15% of the electorate supports these nuts suggests we need to reopen our mental asylums.
Liberal Scientist spews:
Domestic Terrorism – this time targeting Progressive Congressman Raul Grijalva.
This is how the right wing responds. McVey, “Hutaree” nuts in Michigan, Nazi “reenactors”, and overt violence.
America’s right wing has absolutely no compunction about killing those that disagree with them. I’m not at all sure this country is governable – there’s too large a class of violent eliminationist whackjobs just all too ready to act from their collective id.
Liberal Scientist spews:
Notice also – the news cycle is not dominated by terrorist attack on US Congressman, but rather the right wings hissy fit over the firing of that useful idiot (to Fox News) Juan Williams.
Your liberal media at work.
proud leftist spews:
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We may just need to divide the nation. The wingies can have Oklahoma and Texas. Rational Americans get the rest. Ah, I’ll be generous–the wingies can have Utah, too.
Liberal Scientist spews:
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Indeed. I’ve often wondered what the nation would be like if Lincoln had simply said, “See ya later” to the secessionists. The fly in the ointment is of course slavery – but you get my point – imagine the nation without Dixie.
Now my southern progressive friends would of course cry foul over that – anti-southern bigotry. But imagine a nation with so much less conservatism, religiosity, teen-pregnancy, violence, divorce (all kind of maximal, statistically, in the south). Imagine no drain on the Federal coffers like Mississippi and Alabama and Oklahoma – all of which receive much more of our tax dollars than they contribute.
Michael spews:
@9,10
Right now the top hit in US news on Google News is about a body border who was killed by a shark in CA. Searching under “terrorism” you get this little nugget:
But, nothing about the terrorist attack on a US congressman.
lostinaseaofblue spews:
LS
“America’s right wing has absolutely no compunction about killing those that disagree with them.”
Last night I went a tiny bit overboard. I guess it’s your turn today. Really? You sincerely believe conservatives are all domestic terrorists?
Michael spews:
@12
The Following is a minority opinion..
Had Lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation and let the south secede slavery would have been done and over with and the south would have rejoined the union within the time it took to fight the civil war and with few dead on both sides.
But, Lincoln was a hot headed, moralistic, crusading Christian, Republican, who was spoiling for a fight. He was going to teach those boys a lesson, it would be over in a couple of weeks and The North would be heros! Sound familiar?
lostangrymustkillFDR spews:
LOST ANGRY!! KILL TRAITOR!!! SMASH HEAD WITH BRICK!!!!!! ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! Oops, all better now, sorry about that. Wait, come back, was it something I said?
Broadway Joe spews:
I could live with that. Moving the process forward, Sister Psycho could achieve here dream and Alaska could secede. Next would be Utah, and they could take Idaho and Montana, maybe even Nevada with them.
Continuing, Washington, Oregon and northern California could become a republic of their own, kinda like as it was in the book Ecotopia (just without the hippie-dippie bullshit), though the State of Jefferson crowd along the Oregon – California border might not be thrilled about that….
Liberal Scientist spews:
lost
You went overboard? I missed that – which thread? I’ll go back and read it (really).
Perhaps my statement was imprecise, and painted conservatism with too broad a brush. OTOH, every contemporary instance of domestic terrorism I can think of has been from the right. Moreover, eliminationist rhetoric is a staple of the American right wing (see David Niewert’s excellent work, as well as the emails from some Teabaggers in Texas to a group trying to register brown citizens to vote.) Beck’s fantasies about the Tides Foundation resulted in a massive shoot out on a highway in Oakland, and could have cost many innocent people their lives.
So perhaps I should have said:
Too many members of America’s right wing, including for many of their leaders, have absolutely no compunction about discussing the elimination of their political opponents. And too many members of America’s right wing are all to happy to pull the trigger themselves. The pity is that there seems to be absolutely no voice from within America’s right wing speaking out against this dire threat to the freedom of all of us.
Thanks, lost, how’s that?
Broadway Joe spews:
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I kinda have to agree with you on that, lost. I know a few guys who play soldier out in the boonies with like-minded individuals, and truth be told I don’t think they have the balls to do something like that. Even though the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 (in conjuntion with the Insurrection Act of 1807) prohibits the military from going after domestic terrorists, local law enforcement (with a little backup from the FBI) could take down all but the hardest nuts.
That said, there’s still a real possibility of another incident similar to Ruby Ridge or even the Branch Davidians happening in the next few years.
Liberal Scientist spews:
@17
What exactly is wrong with “hippie-dippie bullshit”? It seems quite like the Christian ideal that many seem to profess.
What’s so funny ’bout peace love and understanding, to borrow a phrase?
Mr. Cynical spews:
Goldy–
That’s a simple question..
The real battle is in 2012.
ImamObaMao is up for re-election.
There are 33 Senate Seats up including 23 that are currently held by Democrats of which 4- are safe. Several retirements like Feinstein will happen. There are perhaps 3 Republican Seats that may remotely be contested.
Take a look.
Literally nothing will be passed the next 2 years. Democrats have an uphill battle. Tea Partiers have patience. It’s you KLOWNS that don’t which is precisely why you are in the deep shithole you find yourselves.
Oh, then look at 2014-
Baucus won’t be running in Montana.
proud leftist spews:
Joe,
I would never let the wingies take Montana. That’s ours. We’d have to kick Cynny out, of course. I’m sure he’d fight deportation, though, if we barred him from taking his goat with him.
Mr. Cynical spews:
Take a look at this poll just out in California–
Friday, October 22, 2010
Michael spews:
@20
The book Ecotopia was great, but I don’t particularly want to live in a hippie homeland.
lostinaseaofblue spews:
Re 18
“You went overboard? I missed that – which thread? I’ll go back and read it (really).”
You should, if only to laugh at me. Worf had it nailed when he linked to an old SNL clip of ‘grumpy old man’ as too similar to what I sometimes write. Ah well, we all have room for improvement, me more than most.
And I just think most of the militia/separatist/oddball groups don’t have the guts to really do anything. For the rest they, like you and I, just happen to have strong political beliefs. To go from that to overt violence is a step I don’t see anyone I know taking.
Michael spews:
@23
Yep! And Meg Whitman’s losing her millions to lose to Jerry “Moon Beam” Brown. There’s not much to point to from CA other than the fact that they’re all insane.
Michael spews:
@21
Who ever put up that list you’re cribbing from needs to find a new line of work, half of those folks will sale though the election.
Michael spews:
@15
Continued…
Minorities had to wait another 90 years or so for the Eisenhower Admin to come along and do the heavy lifting and get the Gov’mnt end of the civil rights movement rolling.
I guess we had to think good thoughts about Lincoln because if we didn’t 620,000 or so Americans that died in the Civil War would have died for nothing. But really they did die for nothing. We could have ended slavery w/o those deaths.
Michael spews:
@27
Oops, brain fart on my part…
Half of the Democrats will sale though the 2012 election. 4 safe seats my ass.
gross,it'sstickyinthissock spews:
two brainfarts, michael – ‘Sail’, not ‘sale’
lostinaseaofblue spews:
Re 19
Homegrown terrorism is a possibility.
But Ruby Ridge is an example of what can happen if we let fear triumph over reason in the fight against terrorism. Randy Weaver left his property on a regular basis. Why not arrest him away from home, on the fairly minor fire-arms charges faced? Instead a small army descended on the home. A paranoid delusional with a lot of weapons within reach reacted fairly predictably. At the end his son and wife were dead, though neither had physically threatened law enforcement. All this was over, as I said, some fairly unimportant fire-arms charges. To put a final flourish on this insanity the guy in charge, Louis Freeh, was promoted to second in command of the FBI, instead of being fired.
Michael spews:
@30
I’m kinda gassy today. Good thing I have the day off.
rhp6033 spews:
Remember the private security who handcuffed and removed a journalist in Alaska for attending a Joe Miller campaign event, to which the public was invited????
It turns out that they were all hired by a militia group which supports Miller. And the leader of the group is on video saying that if they don’t get their way through the political process, they will get their way through “other means”.
Funny, my Mom always says that you can tell a person’s character by whom he chooses to call his friends.
don spews:
@33
Not only were Miller’s thugs militia members, but two of them were active duty military. This is a big no-no, members of the military cannot participate in political rallies, and they certainly cannot deny a reporter his First Amendment rights by arresting him.
Michael spews:
I smell a court martial coming up…
Rujax! spews:
@35…
Miller’s thugs couldn’t tell police who the reporter “assaulted”.
You know your a limp wristed girly-man metrosexual when.... spews:
poor goldy smells defeat in the air….this is gonna be fun come november watching goldy and the rest of the children start howling at the moon again….it will be like 2000 all over again…
ld spews:
Obama and the Dems have bankrupted this government, and they keep throwing new Trillion dollar welfare programs at the wall to assure that trickle up poverty is the norm of the land. Even the UK and Cuba know that you gotta cut the Shit outta government to get the budget back in Balance, not grow grow grow government and the Debt.
LD spews:
While your illegals are campaigning for dem votes in Washington.
http://michaelcostello.blogspo.....urray.html
Oh and Governor Gregoire is AGINST an INCOME TAX but FOR I1098. Now how in the hell can you say you are against the very thing you are voting for. Only Gregoire can do that!
http://www.techflash.com/seatt.....re+Blog%29