The 9/11 Commissioners will release a report tomorrow on emergency preparedness, and it doesn’t look so good for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). Commissioner Slade Gorton told the Tacoma News Tribune that FEMA would have been better prepared to handle Hurricane Katrina had it heeded the 9/11 Commission’s advice.
“Clearly, FEMA did little if any planning for a disaster of this nature. And clearly FEMA’s response was insufficient, slow and bureaucratic,” Gorton, a former three-term U.S. Senator from Seattle, said Monday.
The Commission officially disbanded last year, but has continued to operate as the 9/11 Public Discourse Project, and plans to issue several reports over the coming weeks. Amongst the prior recommendations tomorrow’s report will detail have not been met are:
- Establish a unified incident command system.
- Provide space on the radio spectrum for emergency responders.
- Allocate homeland security money based on risk, not politics.
Gorton’s criticism of FEMA was blunt.
Gorton said there are lingering questions “about whether or not FEMA should have been buried in the Homeland Security Department.”
And he said he was relieved that Michael Brown resigned Monday as director of FEMA. Brown’s qualifications, which have been criticized as inadequate, weren’t the problem, as much as his failure to follow emergency response guidelines, said Gorton.
“He didn’t have a whole lot of qualifications in this particular field,” said Gorton, but “someone could have been a professional football player” and done a better job.
I’m not sure what Gorton has against professional football players, but you get the point. FEMA was as much of a disaster as Katrina.
[Cross-posted at Daily Kos]
FEMA can’t even handle the job of recovering all the dead bodies in Louisiana. Or more to the point, FEMA couldn’t even get it together enough to enter into a contract with a disaster relief firm to recover and transport the dead bodies.
http://www.nola.com/newslogs/b.....tml#079389
The State of Louisiana had to sign the contract, because FEMA couldn’t handle the paperwork. FEMA will, of course, reimburse Louisiana for the costs incurred under the contract.
It is really sad that lots of bodies have been lying around or floating around for the last two weeks, and many of them still haven’t been recovered yet.
What is George Bush’s position on Roe vs Wade?
He don’t really care much how New Orleanians leave the city.
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Less than 20 posts permitting in last 12 hrs. Is HS finished?
ah Gorton now your friend. You weren’t that nice when you stole the last senate election from him..
When did we ever get the idea that FEMA was a first responder, and the coordinator of rescue and security? I always saw their role as the ones who come in afterward and hand out checks.
The National Guard is the first responder. We don’t need to go into why they weren’t as effective as they should have been. I know it won’t be discussed here, because it doesn’t fit the narrative of “Bush screwed up, the Feds are useless.”
Gorton has been a disappointment for awhile. He was an embarrassing yes-man on the 9/11 commission. That he is now Goldy’s buddy just confirms my doubts.
From Americablog-http://www.americablog.org/
Bush’s Incompetence Weakens US Abroad
by Michael in New York – 9/13/2005 09:19:00 PM
USA Today reports one Iranian newspaper saying simply:
“Katrina proved that America cannot solve its internal problems and is incapable of facing these kinds of natural disasters, so it cannot bring peace and democracy to other parts of the world,” wrote an Iranian newspaper, Siyasat-e Ruz, last week.
It’s dangerous when governments hostile to us — especially one in the midst of acquiring nuclear weapons — sees America as weak and ineffective. Bush’s incompetence has serious consequences.
Ah, the lefties, quoting from our enemies….
Nice weak argument tying Iran to nukes to Katrina to bush to blah, to blah,blah.
giving aid and comfort to the enemy i see
Rujax – maybe the MSM should consider such things before printing total fabrications. Where did the casualty figure of 10,000 come from? There was absolutely no skepticism from the press over Nagin’s rantings. No one knew, and yet the number was printed over and over again.
This is just one example of how the MSM had the narrative, and just found the quotes to support it. Forget fact. Forget national security. Just make the president look as awful as possible.
Jesus RUJAX, get a life! Is that the best you got you pathetic loser, a 2 bit blog qouting an Iranian newspaper? You are one sick puppy dude. Get some help before you no longer get to choose and are hauled off to western state hospital for a little R&R and serious medication. The only thing that is “weak and ineffective” is your posts, arguments and your overall brain function.
Two Heavy Trucks, Helicopter Were Involved in Lawmaker’s Trip at Height of Crisis
Sept. 13, 3005 — Amid the chaos and confusion that engulfed New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina struck, a local congressman used National Guard troops to check on his property and rescue his personal belongings — even while New Orleans residents were trying to get rescued from rooftops, ABC News has learned.
On Friday, Sept. 2 — five days after Katrina hit the Gulf Coast — Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., who represents New Orleans and is a senior member of the powerful Ways and Means Committee, was allowed through the military blockades set up around the city to reach the Superdome, where thousands of evacuees had been taken.
For a lot more details:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/H.....038;page=1
Too bad. I grew up in New Orleans, and used to have a lot of respect for Bill Jefferson. I think I voted for him once when he ran for mayor. Jefferson apparently is under a federal investigation for some sort of financial wrongdoing, and his homes in New Orleans and D.C. were raided last month (before the hurricane).
Yes, the “3005” year was from the ABC story. So much for cut and paste! :( They will probably correct it to “2005” by the time you check the link out :)
And just as surely, Ray Nagin should be tried for negligent homocide for failing to use the now semi-submerged buses in NO to evacuate the poor, elderly and infirm.
Those buses were at the disposal of Ray Nagin and HE FAILED TO ACT.
Yesterday Wrongboy and other wingnuts were deep into an opinion piece by Jack Kelly. Heck, having seen his posts dry up because no one cares about an eleciton that occured almost a year ago, the ss minnow’s site finally got into the hurricane and posted a thread on it (in between threads on how to give anal probes to voters as an election observer).
Sadly, like most of the right wing spew, it was severely factually challange. Check out this article for the truth (the opposite of what one hears on FOX).
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509120009
Oh, thank you JC Bob for brining up the wingnut meme on the busses. Did you know most of the wingnuts have inflated the number of busses almost 3x their actual number. Forget the spin, and that they were used to get people to the refuges of last resort where they were supposed to be safe until the FEMA came (shame FEMA came three days late. Read the truth:
ABC’s Stephanopoulos repeated school bus falsehood spread by Pruden, Hannity, and Gingrich:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509120005
Some other good articles on the lies of the wingnuts:
“Fox Facts”: Timeline omitted Dem governor’s state of emergency declaration, early levee breaks:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509140001
CBS reporter echoed debunked claims that Blanco was slow to declare state of emergency, Bush “convinced” her to order mandatory evacuation:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509120004
This one is for you Janet S:
Wash. Post echoed Bush administration’s false claim that federal agencies “function as backup” in a disaster:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509100002
Limbaugh advances numerous falsehoods while discussing Hurricane Katrina:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509120008
And lastly, lets not forget the hate America Gang (you knew Pat Robinson couldn’t keep his mouth shut):
Religious conservatives claim Katrina was God’s omen, punishment for the United States”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509130004
Janet S @ 4:
Funny you should talk about what doesn’t “fit the narrative.” It’s too bad you don’t deviate from the Bushie’s playbook more often. That would boost your credibility as independent thinker.
Glad you liked the quote, chumps. We’ll be doin’ a little more educatin’ than fumin’ from here on out.
You shitheads need it.
re 4: FEMA’s response to Hurricane Andrew was so inadequate that President Clinton raised it( FEMA) to cabinet level status, appointed a competent person to head it up, and gave him the authority to revamp FEMA to become a first class first-response operation. YOUR president bush de-funded FEMA, busted it down to non-cabinet level, put it under the incompetent Homeland Security joke, and appointed one unqualified incompetent to run FEMA and another to head Homeland Security. Their main responsibility is to make sure Halliburton and Bechtel and all their other buddies get plenty of fat contracts that are incompetently run but net them fat profits. That’s it in a nutshell.
As Arnold used to say: “Hear me now and believe me later!”
IGNORANCE___ RIGHTY PROPAGANDA ATTACK < ATTACK ATTACK> ATTACK!!!! That’s all you get from these righties now that they’re panicked.
On their blogs, if you so much as ruffle their ignorant feathers, you are BANNED pronto! These bleary-eyed, right wing fuck brains make me sick.
I agree with Howard Dean. I hate Republicans.
Dear Mr. IGDAF-
The guy on the two bit blog is smarter than you:
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Re:AMERICAblog:
Who are you?
John Aravosis is a Washington DC-based writer and political consultant, specializing in using the Internet for political advocacy. He is the creator of StopDrLaura.com, Matthew Shepard Online Resources, and DearMary.com, among other activist Web sites.
John has a joint law degree and masters in foreign service from Georgetown, where he studied under former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. He is an avid writer, and in addition to writing THE LIST, he has worked as a stringer for the Economist magazine, and for years was the US Politics Guide at About.com.
John’s policy experience includes stints in the US Senate, the World Bank, and the Children’s Defense Fund. John is also an occasional TV pundit, having appeared on The O’Reilly Factor, Hardball with Chris Matthews, ABCNews World News Tonight, CNN, Court TV, and more. John speaks five languages and has visited or worked in 28 countries.
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But you, O’ idgaf…preside over your trailer park association in Graham!
JDB @ 12,
That wasn’t the one that bothered me – although it is troubling. No, the conversation David Brooks had with Chris Matthews on Sunday was far worse. The short of it is: lying was official Bush administration policy from the start.
BROOKS: From Day One, they had decided that our public relations is not going to be honest. Privately, they admit mistakes all the time. Publicly — and I’ve had this debate with them since Day One; I always say admit a mistake, people will give you credit —
MATTHEWS: Who do you debate this with?
BROOKS: With people who work in the White House.
MATTHEWS: I thought you were talking about with the president in the back room.
[laughter]
BROOKS: Not with him, but they represent what he believes, which is, if you admit a mistake, you get no credit from your enemies, and then you open up another week’s story, because the admission of a little mistake leads to the admission of big mistakes and another week’s story. It’s totally tactical and totally insincere.
So that really should tell you something now that Bush has decided to take responsibility: It’s totally tactical and totally insincere.
Roger Rabbit: I briefly checked out those sites about government concentration camps. I’m not sure what to think of it yet. I’ll have to do more research.
@15 FEMA’s response to Hurricane Andrew was so inadequate that President Clinton raised it( FEMA) to cabinet level status, appointed a competent person to head it up, and gave him the authority to revamp FEMA to become a first class first-response operation.
That sounds a lot like King County Elections after the Cantwell-Gorton election. :)
headless lucy @ 18
‘I briefly checked out those sites about government concentration camps.’
Research will show that these camps actually are full of rabbit cages. There are separate camps for boy rabbits and girl rabbits. If you are a male rabbit encamped at one of these facilities, let the dropped soap go.
Further research will reveal the real purpose of these rabbit camps. It is a right-wing scheme to reduce dependence on foreign oil. As the supply of cats is limited the next best thing is rabbits.
http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/.....awsi1.html
re 19: WOW!!!! HOW ASTUTE!!!! Guess I better get on my toes!!!!
re 120: Your lack of a serious response as to why the camps are there makes me wonder even more!!!!!! I see you as a brother in a response to a threat like this , not an enemy. Are you smart enough to understand that?
headless lucy @ 18
Sorry about the bad link.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1534821.html
I hate it when I mix up hypocracy by unions with sensible alternative fuel concepts.
re 23: Hypocracy????!!!! Wut!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????
REPS: We’re not disputing that you have the idiots under your thumb (40 percent) (God, that’s huge! Really!!). It’s just that 60 percent are on to your game.
re 23: NoWonder you anus is sore!
righto @n 6 “giving aid and comfort to the enemy i see”
Yeah, I really wish you would stop that righton, you anti American asshole.
Unmentionably foul detritus @ 8
You think that Middle Eastern Nuke possessing countries seeing our feeble president and his inept response to a hurrican is unimportant?
Bush enables Terrorism with every
misstep he makes. We are in deep shit, and Neo-Con Symps like you want to tell us it tastes good.You are a pathetic shell of a man, and a Terrorist Against America.
Al Gore invented the internet. Prove me wrong!
I have to say, I’m not sure which is more pathetic, the fact that George W. Bush managed to get himself elected to a second term as President of the United States, or the fact that the Democrats couldn’t field a candidate capable of unseating him.
Re 30: The Supreme Court chose our president in 2000– and 2004 was stolen. We’re trying to reclaim our country from these fascist pigs , but they are not as afraid of us as they need to be. We’re trying to avoid a bloodbath, but we’re not all that afraid of it. We will frustrate any plan they have.
Remember: Slavery is dead.
headless loser@31–
Have you been using that crack again.
Incoherent ramblings are your specialty.
As usual, we can count on you loser to reach for a lower low!
lucy-goosey @ 35: “2004 was stolen”
Yes. KingCo REALS did steal the election for Gregoire.
Donna @ 31: “…you anti American asshole”
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
To see you neo-consymps frothing at the mouth again over losses you can’t understand or control is humorous—in a way. I’ve told you all along you were losers and bad for the country. I don’t know how you can convince yourselves that your simpleton ways are good for anyone—especially yourselves.
Ah, I see the neo lib bozos are out again! They return from their drinking love fest and the alcoholic laced kool-aid is working wonders!!!
JustDumbBozo: MediaMatters again. The left wing Blather site. Shit, I trust the NY Times more than them. Keep Kosing on JustDumbBozo. George Steponallofus a trustworthy media source of donkocratic what? I trust the Houston Chronicle more than George or MediaMutters.
Lucite: I told you to shut up. Again you know nothing and you implement selective reading skillz. Joe Lieberman suggested in his Treatise on the Department of Homeland Security creation to move FEMA under DHS. Bush said “We don’t need more bureaucracy” Donkocrats cried fowl. Bush doesn’t care for the US. Bush said okay DHS it is. Apparently you just spew shit to see yourself in pixels. But I will change my tune. Please keep writing. Your Gov. Faubus treatise was just as laughable.
Rujax: Your friend may be degreed. But when he admits working for Madeline HalfBright, who admitted interesting things to the 9/11 Omission, well…
Lucite: You are a friend of JustDumbBozo. You are a real neo lib. Your need to remove that spiked vibrator from your ass. The shit pressure is so great you are now writing stuff absolutely incoherent. Gore sued and was rejected. He lost his home state of Tennessee. You continue to forget that, I will continually remind you. LOSER! 2004 was the year of donkocratic voting irregularity indictments. Looks like you all implemented Fact 14 from Dr. E. Controlling Election machines and you still can’t get them voters to the polls. Now that you donkocrats helped destroy the levees, how will Landrieu get reelected when her base is gone. They sure used dem buses to get out the vote but they couldn’t use them to save their vote!
Which part of the fictional 9/11 commission report was supposed to be taken seriously?
headless lucy @ 28
‘Hypocracy????!!!! Wut!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????’
http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/.....awsi1.html
The unions hiring workers at minimum wage with no benefits to protest Wal-Mart. Yes, that is hypocrisy.
headless lucy @ 30
I am not a rabbit or cat. If I was Roger Rabbit, however, I would be a bit nervous.
headless lucy @ 35
‘Remember: Slavery is dead.’
Are you admitting that even something that is legal at some time in the history of the US can be wrong? And that just because something is “settled law” there can be progress by overturning precedent? Maybe we are on the same side.
braindead winger @ 40
I told you to shut up.
This is the essence of the wingnut argument.
Goldy I am full support of converting this site to scoop.
Wrongboy:
Yep, MediaMatters, that site run by David Brock, who wrote “The Truth About Hillary,” and other right wing books you used to pull your pud to.
But, more importantly, they, unlike the opinion pieces you and your like post, actually cite their material with links that show you the facts. Facts that you are sadly lacking. My only question is do you actually belive the stuff that you post, or do you realize that you are lying, and just like to be wrong?
Mark @ 37
Yes. KingCo REALS did steal the election for Gregoire.
And 2 million dollars plus of Republican treasure put before a sympathetic Judge proved this.
This of course doesn’t mean that the Republicans didn’t make an excellent case. I understand Republicans believe in meritocracy and rewarding excellence. On that note make out a check today to the WSGOP. The party is still over a million dollars in debt.
On that note make out a check today to the WSGOP. The party is still over a million dollars in debt.
Maybe Bush can make a trip out to our state for a $2,000 per plate GOP fundraiser that none of the HorsesAss winger trolls can afford to attend.
LiberalDave–@49
I believe quite a few of those of us who are always RIGHT could afford a $2000/plate fundraiser….if that’s what floated our boat.
I prefer supporting great candidates like Dino Rossi and local candidates a little closer to home that more directly impact my day-to-day life. I also prefer to support candidates like Rossi that will fire all the at-will professional bureacrats who are the real problem in this State. CLEAN HOUSE!! 20 years of rule by either Party is inherently bad because it allows professional bureaucrats to become entrenched and disconnected from the public they allegedly serve.
I believe quite a few of those of us who are always RIGHT could afford a $2000/plate fundraiser….if that’s what floated our boat.
I seriously doubt that, Mr. Irrelevant. But one thing I do agree with you on: “20 years of rule by either Party is inherently bad”
So is a decade of rule by one party at the federal level. I think government functions best when you have a party split either in congress or between the respective legislative and executive branches.
Rossi is not the magic bullet to fix problems in our state. After watching the post-election smear against everyone who he decided had hindered or opposed his campaign in any way (even Republicans), I’ve had my fill of Dino.
Lib dave;
So how many years did we have 1 party national rule in the house and senate? What, about 1932 till 2000, 1 or 2 small breaks w GOP taking Senate.
So 60 or 70 years of 1 party rule, vs what 5 years of Bush/senate/house??
get your facts right
get your facts right
My facts are right. By the time we turn things around there’s a good chance we’ll have seen more than a decade of Republican rule. Besides, when I say a party split between branches is best I wasn’t disregarding past federal history.
Headless Lucy (all posts:
Yes, you calling anyone a hypocrite is the definition of that word itself. I see some black kettles……It’s obvious to me that you suffer from some form of rectal-cranial inversion. Maybe that head of yours is there after all……..
SNICKER,… CHORTLE,… GIGGLE, … LAUGH RIGHT OUT LOUD!!!!
Pity, poor, impotent Hillary! Ignored and embarrassed by her husband AND those IN POWER.
ASS,
So the Republicans want a toothless investigation? Wow, what a shocker!
However:
The Senate vote is hardly likely to be the last word on whether to create an independent commission or as an alternative a special congressional committee to investigate Katrina. The 9/11 Commission was established in 2002 after resistance from Republicans and the White House, and opinion polls show the public strongly supports the idea. In a CNN/USA Today Gallup poll taken Sept. 8-11, 70 percent of those surveyed supported an independent panel to investigate the government’s response to Katrina. Only 29 percent were opposed.
Congress can ignore the interests of the American people at their own peril.
SO LiberalDave: will you agree that 70+ years of LA, NO control by moby troll donkocrats helped keep dem po black peeples po? Help me comprehend your argument!
Richard Pope: When did FEMA get in charge of dead body assessment and removal? Oh that’s right, the LA govnur said so!
JustDumbBozo, I have posted facts. Fact upon fact upon fact to counter your lie after lie after lie after lie. I implemented the age old use multiple sources. You continue to refer to two, WaPo and MediaMutters. Count the number of links I use and it’s at least 5:1 me to you.
Go on Kos’ing on JustDumbBozo. I know that you are pissed you have no say in nat’l matters, but the Bile of Seattle here gives you an avenue to rant. Rant On!
will you agree that 70+ years of LA, NO control by moby troll donkocrats helped keep dem po black peeples po? Help me comprehend your argument!
Nope. Slavery first did that, followed by over a hundred years of prejudice, economic discrimination and racism. Southern Democrats from the past are now mostly Republicans anyway, if they’re still alive.
In a WashingtonPost.com article, “Bush Approval Rating at All-Time Low,” posted at 5:31pm EDT and which will likely appear in very similar form in Tuesday’s Washington Post, Richard Morin reported:
“Bush isn’t the biggest loser in the post-Katrina blame game. A majority — 57 percent — say state and local officials should be blamed for the problems, suggesting the White House has been at least partially successful in shifting fault away from Bush and the federal government. And half the public says the bigger problem is that people failed to take the storm warnings seriously, while nearly as many said the bigger problem was the failure of government to provide transportation to those in the path of the storm.
“But Americans were even more suspicious of Democrats’ motives. Six in 10 said that Democrats critical of Bush for his handling of the hurricane were just trying to use the disaster for political advantage while a third said Democrats were genuinely interested in finding out what went wrong.”
For the Post article: http://www.washingtonpost.com
Puddybud @ 58
You know better than that! You saw how I spanked PacMan on the issue of racism and the well known Republican Southern Strategy. In fact, you know the RNC chair recently apologized to the NAACP for their racist and biased policies favoring whites while distancing themselves from blacks.
Please, please don’t make me rehash the whole demographics thing either. If you don’t believe me ask PacMan. That’s about the time he slowed down on HA because he was, well, defeated on the issue without prejudice.
REV Louis “Calipso” and Al Sharpton today announced that Bush wants to kill even MORE blacks and is calling in another hurricane. This one is coming into the Carolinas!!
Clueless @ 49
Don’t get your panties in a bunch. Just wanted to rile up you Lefties a tad.
But, just to reply to your post… “This of course doesn’t mean that the Republicans didn’t make an excellent case.”
They did a terrible, disjointed job of presenting their case.
gbs;
what hurts black people more; trent lott in a speech admiring strom thurmond, or Mayor Nagligent and Gov Blank-o not evacuating people (or hybrid; Sen Mary Landrieu saying on Fox News that mayor has trouble on a good day getting people to go to work (i’m guessing largely black muni workforce).
65…Black “civil service” [“guvment”] union hacks refused to show up to drive their “people” out of harm’s way. Why should they? They are black and know they are never responsible for anything! The black Mayor does nothing, sooooo this must be Bish’s fault. Bottom line: No black Democrat can and will be held responsible or accountable for anything. Racist? YES! The truth: Absolutely!! The only reason democrat pols suck up to blacks are for votes. Note NO New Orleans blacks have been invited to Seattle, Cape Cod, or Cambridge, MASS. Democrats: racists!!
The unveiling of the Mardi Gras Fountain was celebrated this year in typical New Orleans style. The cost of $2.4 million was paid by the Orleans Levee Board, the state agency whose main job is to protect the levees surrounding New Orleans — the same levees that failed after Katrina hit. [Democrat politcal hacks looooove to spend other people’s money on bull shit pretend jobs. Then, when the shit hits the fan, it must be Bush’s fault!!]
DON…How many cases of King Cobra does $2000 buy? How many cartons of Marlboros? How many gold chains?
righton @ 65
Some of it has to do with low wages and rampant corruption. Did you know first-year cops down there are paid $16K per year??!! No wonder they’re more than happy to take a little money to look the other way. From what I’m hearing through police circles, 1/3 of the NOLA force quit and they’re desperate to get cops from other parts of the country to come down and help.
66…….Mark……What was the race of the hundreds of cops that quit? Hell, welfare hacks in New Orleans make more thn 16K a yr. Did George Bush make them quit? No………Blacks hurting blacks. Typical subhuman behavior.
JustDumbBozo, Dr. E. : Here is a view of your side in the MSM. Point 6 of the secular humanism junk. Are these objective journalists, from the Republican controlled wing of the MSM?
http://www.mediaresearch.org/n.....050912.asp
I trust Brent Bozell over any person you slig out.
http://www.mediaresearch.org/r.....050908.asp
Now Goldy loves Slade Gorton. Didn’t he make an ass of himself discussing LT. Col Shaffer when Capt. Phillpott came out that night and corroborated his story? Yes, Goldy chooses his heroes wisely.
Goldy: Where is your outrage on the Mangano’s St. Rita’s Nursing Home? Surely some po minorities had to have died. These nasty white peeples have to be held accountable because they had to be colluding with FEMA and ignoring an evacuation order!!!
http://www.dallasnews.com/shar.....dd673.html
Now that you see how stoopid that sounds, it ranks up there with some of the stoopid commentary from your side about how FEMA allowed minorities to die. I wonder if we can find out how the Mangano’s voted in 2004. I bet moby troll!
But what about those Houston minorities who are upset that New Orleans minorities are getting $$$ and they are po black peeples. A terrible violent fight between students and the parents also get involved. Wow more democratic voters who are pissed? Over what? http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ss.....an/3352946 –
These two paragraphs say it all. “HISD school board member Arthur Gaines said educators may have been so focused on finding schools for Louisiana students to attend that they didn’t spend enough time making sure the children would get along.
“I don’t think we should have just assumed these youngsters were going to melt in because they were black,” Gaines said. “I think if the staff and teachers had worked with the students to say: ‘Look, they’ve lost their homes. They’ve lost everything. … I want you to put your arms around them.’ ” -What they just can all get along?
By the way: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ss.....an/3352982
Only 38 percent of those polled viewed Bush’s response to Hurricane Katrina favorably, while 56 percent viewed his response as fair (21 percent) or poor (35 percent).
That roughly tracks national opinion. An AP-Ipsos poll found that slightly more than half, 52 percent of respondents, disapprove of Bush’s handling of the hurricane relief.
Only 26 percent of Chronicle/KHOU poll respondents favorably rated the performance of Blanco in the disaster, and 36 percent gave good or excellent ratings to Nagin.
FEMA’s response to Katrina was rated favorably by 31 percent, with the highest percentage of respondents, 37 percent, rating it as poor.
Stein said White has been able to parlay his image as a good manager into that of a humanitarian.
“White will have an enormous amount of capital in public trust and confidence,” said Stein, whose wife is a member of the mayor’s senior staff.
Chronicle reporter Matt Stiles contributed to this story.
For everyone who has been so quick and eager to criticize FEMA – perhaps you should do some research on FEMA. I am a Disaster Assistance Employee (DAE) – which means we work ‘on call’ (ready to deploy within 24 hours to wherever we are needed), we do not receive any benefits (sick leave, vacation, retirement) and we spend weeks to months away from our families/home. James Lee Witt did a wonderful job leading FEMA and improving morale…and trust me, the morale at FEMA is seriously damaged – which is really disheartening, considering the DAEs who are out there working so hard to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Mayor Ray Nagin is very quick to point the finger at FEMA, but perhaps he should look at the person responsible for a situation that spiraled out of control – and he could find that person by looking in the mirror.
Mark
Yeah, that Senator is a fool. I mean, i know they are all windbags, but man she was spewing some nonsense. I guess land of Huey Long, Moon Landreau, public drinking, bayous, inbreeding :), hot nights, all leads to a pretty worthless populace (unless of course you want to have a good time).
re 69: And what decent Christian would want that? Speaking of Tom DeLay, the courts seem to be zeroing in on him.
re 67: SECULAR HUMANISM—- otherwise known as the Rennaisance or , Rebirth, of Civilisation. Go ahead—Google it.
re 44: I agree. Do you know why organized labor got involved with organized crime? Google: Pinkerton Detectives. Direct and real threats against the lives of business leaders led to important “concessions” in 1937. A word to the wise is sufficient.
What are you donking about lucite? SECULAR HUMANISM – Online home of the Council for Secular Humanism, serving secular humanists, atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, rationalists, skeptics
Secular Humanists typically describe themselves as atheists (without a belief in a god or very skeptical of the possibility) or agnostics (without knowledge of a god and uncertain of the possibility). Yes, donk****don has reminded me about this forever.
The universe is self-existing and has not been created. Mankind is a part of nature and has emerged as a result of continuous, natural evolutionary forces. Yes, Republicans evolved and donkocrats continue to devolve.
Secular Humanists, being free from supernaturalism, recognize that the values human beings hold are rooted in their human experiences and in their culture. And dats why dem Negroes in Louisiana ran amuck! Their human experiences at the hand of white donkcrats keeping them in poverty since 1935 why Huey Long a Donkocrat!
Secular Humanists do not hold the many varieties of sexual expression as evil. – WTF does that mean?
Secular Humanists deplore the division of mankind on the basis of nationalistic borders. – Hilary and the One World Govmint – Hand over our constitution to the UN.
Why did the Germans in Germany run amock after WWI ? It is so very ODD that you SUPPORT multi-national corporations and yet hold the beliefs that you do— and are unable to see the obvious internal contradictions of your assertions. This is the frustrating part of trying to communicate with you. You guys are like house niggers that can’t see who they really are.
YOU ARE A NIGGER. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU CAN BE OUT IN MASSA”S COTTONFIELDS (and you will) WHEN HE SEES FIT.
You be calling us House Niggers that can’t see who they are? Now we have it HorsesAssers. Lucite finally explained himself. So I guess blacks need not apply to your wrestling team? Shit Lucite, you better retract that one really fast. Else you have proved to us that liberal moby troll moonbat progressive commi-like donks are as we speculated all along; hateful MFs against de black race.
Regarding Secualr Humanism, I took that from your Google request. You didn’t answer the question like always.
Why did the Germans run amock? Maybe they lost and they weren’t used to losing.
WADF!!!
pudd @ various above
Re: Secular Humanism
Your arguments are attacking the idea of secular humanism as a means of discounting a political analysis found on their website. Let me tell you why this argument does not discredit the analysis.
You’re essentially trying to discredit the idea of secular humanism, on the grounds that secular humanists are atheist/agnostic and/or hold views that you do not hold. While their viewpoint may differ substantially from yours, it does not invalidate it as a philosophical perspective. But that’s not the actual problem.
The problem is that you are imputing a lack of credibility in the analysis published with the author’s philosophical views. You have shown no ability to prove this lack of credibility—which would, in this case, probably have nothing to do with an author’s philosophical views, but rather would better focus on that person’s education or other such relevant credentials. Either way, this is essentially an ad hominem argument, attacking the author rather than his arguments.
If you want to discredit the analysis, then start by showing how the author got his analysis wrong. That means you’d have to negate his thesis by showing how fascist governments do not display the 14 common characteristics he identifies, and you’d need to do so by giving concrete, facutal examples of fascist regimes (all of which have ended) that do not display these tendencies at all. Good luck.
Now, let me further say this: I am not a secular humanist, and don’t have any immediate interest in becoming one. That does not mean that I cannot (nor should not) read any article published by a secular humanist—any more than I can’t (or shouldn’t) read any article published by a Catholic, a Buddhist, an Anarchist, etc. In fact, I don’t normally care about the religious/philosophical orientation of every article I read; I don’t bother checking, and I’d daresay that you probably don’t either. If the argument is cogent, that’s usually good enough.
Look, you have every right to object to the points the article makes. These things are not comfortable to think about. But sometimes one has to confront that which is uncomfortable in order to form an opinion.
pudd @ 79
My response is held by the spam filter, should show up as #82.
Is Gorton the guy who makes those fabulous beer-battered fillets that you see in the frozen food section? I just love the picture of the fisherman in the blue slicker. If that’s Gorton, he is SO HOT!!!! XOXOXO
Goosey @ 84
Yes, that is his family’s company.
He’s 77 yrs old and looks better than Patty. Almost better than Maria (who with more feminine clothes would almost be worth looking at).
Dr. E. Balanced commentary. I haven’t had a chance to determine my thoughts on this. All I did was go to the site and look at the sections. I will look at this later.
But it proves many of my points when I relate some of the donk diatribes are directly referable to many of these items. Hence my additional commentary. If you are an honest person Dr. E., look at what I said regarding each point and tell me if I am right or wrong.
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I’ll be happy to do so if I have the time. I’ll just say my immediate caveast are that a) the party that currently controls all 3 branches of government has more to answer for than the one that doesn’t, and; b) that it is very much a matter of degree, i.e. some excesses are worse than others. But, with that said, the “books are closed” on the Clinton administration, so one could put his 8 years to the same test.
“caveast” = caveats, above
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Posted a reply on the other thread, not as detailed as I would have liked, but that probably would have taken quite a while.
re 79: Would you be against ” one world govmint ” if American neo-cons controlled it?