In an interview with the AP’s David Ammons, commercial real estate broker salesman Dino Rossi once again claims that he’s not bitter over his narrow loss in the governor’s race, and his monumental defeat in court.
The loss and frustrating appeal were painful, but he’s not bitter, he said.
“Probably the only ‘fair’ the Rossi family is going to get this year is the state fair at Puyallup,” he said with a laugh.
It took me a couple of takes before I got the, um… “joke.” Translation: “it’s not fair!” Gees… what a whiner.
In ending his futile contest, Rossi said that he would not appeal Judge Bridges decision, because he did not believe he could get a fair hearing from a “liberal” State Supreme court. He did not back down from this statement.
“Six of the nine justices are liberals — one used to work for Gregoire (in the Attorney General’s Office), so the likelihood of them actually overturning an outcome they liked would be slim to none.
“I don’t pull back” from any of his criticism.
That’s right… according to Rossi, “liberal” justices are simply incapable of basing their rulings on the law… they just decide cases based on who they want to win.
Asshole.
Trashing the integrity of our state’s highest court is not exactly the kind of positive leadership Rossi promised he would bring to the governor’s office. His comments are also very revealing about what he and his ilk believe the true role of the court should be.
“Obviously, it’s very disappointing, but to waste a bunch of time and energy being angry about something you can’t control doesn’t make any sense to me.”
And the thing he’s angry about not controlling… is the State Supreme Court. You see, Republicans expect their judges to always rule according to the party line, and so they expect the same from Democrats. That’s why there’s so much anger from the right at Justice Kennedy for staying true to his conservative, federalist principles rather than consistently siding with the RNC platform.
But the truth is, most justices base their rulings on the law, not their preferred outcome, as can be seen in the state Supremes’ recent decision in favor of the Seattle Times, despite their stated preference that Seattle remain a two-newspaper town.
Rossi didn’t appeal the election contest decision because there was nothing to appeal… Judge Bridges’ ruling was based on the evidence, not the law, and the Supremes almost never reject a lower court’s evidentiary findings. To blame his loss on a “liberal” Supreme Court is not only childish, it shows a lack of respect for the voters who put these justices on the bench.
Makes me think he’d have been just as poor a governor as he is a poor loser.
The poor excuse for a governor is the one that cheated her way into the seat presently.
Makes me think he’d have been just as poor a governor as he is a poor loser.
Look at the loser “dream team” he had working for him in the court case. Clearest indicator of what a loser of a governor he would have been.
the one that cheated her way
You mean the governor you called a b*tch?
How did she “cheat” Chuck? You mean she merely asked for a recount and got it per the law?
Did she overstep her bounds there Chuckie? I guess in your reckoning a woman is not supposed to challenge a man – even a whiner and a loser like Dino Rossi.
Thank goodness we elected Gregoire. Rossi would be plain scary.
Actually, judges who agree with republicans are “interpreting the constitution.” Those that disagree with republicans are “activist.”
Really sad.
Rove…should resign.
goldy ; you need a vacation or better material. this ones a dud.
Right on…right off!
How did she “cheat” Chuck? You mean she merely asked for a recount and got it per the law?
Did she overstep her bounds there Chuckie? I guess in your reckoning a woman is not supposed to challenge a man – even a whiner and a loser like Dino Rossi.
I need King County to recount my bank account… I need more money. I am going to make sure they count the bag of unmarked provisional dollars. Yeah!!
I have just one thing to say to Cheesy Chuckie and Right-Wing Rufus. It’s this:
You and your ilk have had your day in court. The judge admitted your evidence and considered your arguments. You were represented some of the state’s best lawyers along with the national GOP’s best election contest lawyer, and your side spent over $2 million on the case. In other words, you had every possible opportunity to make a case against Gregoire’s victory — and you couldn’t. The election contest is over and that should be the end of it. Gregoire is the legitimate governor chosen by the majority of voters. To continue to impugn her legitimacy is an attack on the rights of those voters. Go fuck yourselves! This is a democracy. If you want to live in a banana republic, move to Florida or Ohio. We don’t need you assholes fouling up our beautiful state.
Rufus the doofus @ 8
Two million bucks plus, doofus and they couldn’t prove jack to a Republican judge. Are you can’t prove anything either. So live on in your fantasy world, pal – I’m not naive enough to believe that anything is going to change your mind.
Comment on Goldy’s Thread
What do you expect from a guy whose only leadership experience is supervising one part-time student janitor when he was in college? A 19-year-old supervising 2 assistants in an ice cream shop has more management experience than Rossi does. More maturity, too. As is evident every time Rossi opens his mouth. Our state narrowly dodged a bullet in not electing this monkey to run a highly complex organization consisting of over 100 agencies with over 100,000 employees and a multi-billion dollar annual budget. Can you imagine putting this jackass in charge of the U.W. Medical Center, or the Huskies football program? Or a sewage plant, or a power substation? Or a youth league team? Of course not, because he has zero qualifications and experience for any of those positions. People would roll their eyes. So why does anyone think he’s qualified to run our state government? It appears a substantial number of our citizens have contempt for our state government — until they want something from it. But then what the fuck do you expect from the freeloader element of society?
John@3
Why do you seem so anti woman? Seems everytime you turn around you are having problems with what you seem to percieve as a womans lack of strength….
john; how’d you decide earring bridges is a republican? You doing some profiling; assuming cuz he’s from east of Fremont he must be right wing?
Rufus the doofus @ 8
Two million bucks plus, doofus and they couldn’t prove jack to a Republican judge. Are you can’t prove anything either. So live on in your fantasy world, pal – I’m not naive enough to believe that anything is going to change your mind.
All I have to say is watch out in 2006 and 2008. The judge has given us the game rules. If you donks think were are going to cheat I have got this to say to you. PROVE IT BITCH!!
@ 14
Hah! It won’t be hard. You’re already broadcasting to the world how you’re going to do it on the winger sites.
Mind your p’s and q’s now or prepared to be 0wn3d beeyaatch!!!
@12
Nice try Chuckie turning it around on me! Sorry not buying it…
Besides who called who a b*tch?
@ 13
Oh I dunno. Maybe ‘cuz Chris Rants filed the suit in Chelan County where he thought it would get the best hearing. You know that left-wing place that voted in huge numbers for Dino?
Dino’s loser lawyers even called the head of elections in Chelan as a witness to the purity of red counties – a little problem though – eight felons slipped through the cracks and voted there in Chelan.
How did that happen?
@11
Now, now Roger remember that Dino successfully sheparded the budget deal way back – you know the one that cut health insurance to poor kids?
That’s leadership for you – making the tough calls…
John@16
I called Bill Clinton and Gary Lock both a sorry bastards as well, is there a “hidden meaning” in that for you as well?
@ 19
Give it up Chuckie. Apples and oranges – and you know it…
John@20
Face it John, you are the one with anti woman tendancies, feel sorry for your wife.
Roger Rabbit @ 9
So all this nonsense of unfounded accusations in Ohio and Florida applies as well?
The stop you bitching and start supporting your justly elected President
Yeah Roger–
I will stop complaining about our 129 vote loss in Washington state if you stop complaining of your presidents 120,000 vote loss in Ohio.
@ 21
Quit your projecting Chuckie, it’s embarrassing – for you that is.
The neo-cons are now slowly twisting in the wind. It’s time for orange alerts and “terrorist” attacks in the U.S. Mark my words, these neo-cons are serious about destroying the U.S.
John@24
Im not the one “projecting”, I really think you are the guilty one trying to throw blame elsewhere…pot calling the kettle black, man in a glass house sort of thing. It is the same thru history, I have seen your type. Im sure a professional could help you with your guilt and guide you to live your life better….and I really hope you seek help for your problem before any of the women in your life get hurt by you (if you havent already done so)
Please seek help for your problems John, I shall pray for you.
Reply to 18
It’s not that hard to sell a used car with bad brakes to Gary Locke. Even Dino could do it.
19
Cheesy Chuckie, you’re a sorry bastard. Sorry, no hidden meanings in there. It means what it says.
John… listen to Chuck. Hey I want to let you know I apologized for my remarks on 14. We republicans dont need to stoop to that level. I am praying for you buddy.
Reply to 22
When did I say he isn’t president? As for supporting them, my support has to be earned, and this president hasn’t earned it. When he works for peace instead of war; when he cares more about human welfare than corporate profits; when he learns how to balance a budget; when he supports our soldiers and veterans with more than empty words; when he preserves, protects, and defends the Constitution; when he respects science and protects our environment; when he stops lying to us and cleans up the corruption under his administration; then I’ll support him.
Comment on 30
You Republicans stoop to that level every day.
32
Why do you say that RR… Ah crap, I knocked over this pile of provisional ballots and now I have to clean them up. I just dont know where you come up with that Rabbit.
Roger Rabbit@29
Ill pray for you as well.
I saw that interview on TV last night (7/2/05) here (Spokane). Interviewer was framing entire context of “poor Dino”. F:ex describing final decision as “the judge’s standard” (rather than the law), implying Bridges was a pre-disposed Gregoire sympathizer but never mentioning his conservative/republican credentials or the law by which decision was made.
Aside from all that, however, the Rossi comment which got my attention: he said King County election officials took (xxx) ballots home the night before the election and these ballots were never accounted for. He then extrapolated this with statement (from memory): “there was absolutely no ballot security.”
Well, I didn’t hear about this: anyone know what he was talking about? And secondly, obviously there was ballot security… down to letter of the law. Post election ballots were handled exactly as they were supposed to be, which is why the KC absentee were allowed in final recount: the chain of custody was demonstrable.
I would point out this chain of custody was broken all over the place in Ohio, yet attempts to get state courts to review was greeted with their Attn General filing suit against petitioners for harrasment.
34
Thanks but no thanks. I don’t know what god you get your guidance from, but I prefer to pray to the real one.
Comment on 35
The Dino Whinocrats continue to apply a double standard to Washington and Ohio. What they claim was “outrageous” in Washington was routine in Ohio — and worse. With these people it’s all about winning at any price. They have to be stopped, because they’re like the Bolsheviks … once they get control of the government and its electoral processes they’ll never allow themselves to be removed from power.
Reply to 31
“As for supporting them, my support has to be earned, and this president hasn’t earned it.”
Likewise on our state government.
This skank went on a no new taxes platform, then was elected under questionable terms, immediately enacted an “emergency” clause for tax hikes (oh and under that premise, passed something like 81 bills under that guise) and I am supposed to support this?
Emergency, give me a friggin break. That only emergency to be claimed is that the poeples vote in this state is stepped on for a convenience of the legislature.
How can you support someone like that?
As for Bush and Iraq.. I have my own resrvations about the guy, but it seems to me we were attacked by Al Qaeda (sp?) on 9/11, not the other way around. To date we are actively engaged with Al Qeada (& the Taliban) in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Or should we stop pussyfooting around and open this war beyond political borders?
38
Tell you what prr, if you don’t like her, don’t vote for her. Works for me.
That’s an unacceptable answer.
This governor and our legislature have thrown away measures voted in by our residents and I want them held accountable.
prr: What other answer would be acceptable in a republican form of government?
We elect the governor and legislature to look out for the long term interests of our state and to take in the whole picture of current conditions, not the piecemeal impulses of an electorate as expressed over a decade ago. If you don’t like the job they are doing, don’t vote for them.
CONGRATULATIONS, Chuck!
You’re the second winner of the JERRY SPRINGER AWARD for your highly effective illustration of the Politics of Distraction.
In response to Goldy’s critique of Rossi, you were successful in at least temporarily changing the subject by arguing that John @3 was “anti woman.” This could go down as a classic thread-hijacking attempt.
The foundation for your gambit was rather pedestrian — to launch a personal attack against a fellow commenter. However, you did an unusually effective job at getting under the skin of John so as to 1) distract from the original intent of the thread, and 2) undercut civil discussion.
The genius to your gambit was to pick a core value of liberalism – gender equality — and charge that a commenter had violated it. But instead of making a blanket charge against “pinhead liberals,” you singled out one victim. Like any self-respecting male with liberal leanings, John might feel the need to defend himself.
What makes it all the more likely that John would respond was your method of argumentation: Substitute snarkiness for evidence. Done correctly, this can generate multiple responses, which you stoked brilliantly (@12, @21, @24@27).
Your schoolyard bully tactics won’t win you a Nobel Peace Prize, but it did win you a JERRY SPRINGER AWARD!
RR @ 39
“Tell you what prr, if you don’t like her, don’t vote for her. Works for me.”
For someone who seems so quick to accuse conservatives of being blind follows of dogma, you sure seem like one yourself. If Bush lied about Iraq
On a side note….
I am looking at todays Seattle times and notice that this freak, Joseph Edward Duncan III, comes from of all places, Washington State.
Is our largest export in this state criminals that are a cancer on the rest of the world?
Ted Bundy, Gary Ridgeway, DC Sniper, etc…..
Is it the climate in this state? Be that political or natural that causes this to occur? Is our legal system protecting these freaks?
Have we lost sight of the right of the victims to protect the rights of the criminals?
Scottd @ 41,
I did not vote for them last time and I wonder if my vote was even counted this time.
continued, fat fingered again, sorry.
If Bush lied about Iraq, the Gregoire lied about taxes. Yes, you can argue moral equivalency if you want, but using the liberals standard for lying, this still makes Gregoire a liar.
prr: What are you talking about? Please cite instances where the Washington statelegal system acted to protect or otherwise enable the psychopaths you mentioned.
prr @ 45: I wonder if my vote was even counted this time
Of course you do. The only way your candidates could possibly lose is through upsubstantiated conspiracies…
Cons @ 46:
No-one would argue the Gregoire is a lying bitch.
One thing is for sure, by the 2008 election, the voters in this state will be bent over and violated on so many levels, it’s pathetic.
Sottd @ 41
How is this taking care of our long term interest, they have raised taxes and made mention of transportation improvements. There is no plan, nor a guaruntee that the gas increase taxes will be used to fund these programs.
Additionally, the funds they have created in no way are sufficient to pay for the programs they are talking about. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Next stop? Toll roads & a discussion about state income tax.
On a local level, my prediction is that the monorail will die a dismal death and we will have wasted 100’s of millions and received nothing but another Liberal focus group that accomplished nothing for the money we have been taxed.
Scottd @ 47
I am not gonna play the liberal game of limit, cite and discredit a discussion.
I’ll turn it back on you. Tell me where this state is hard on crimninals or sex offenders?
Seems to me whe have more than our share out on the street, Joseph Edward Duncan III, was just another example of a Washington Stte sex offender that went out and destryed the lives of a bunch of innocent poeople.
Honestly, I would prefer that in cases of violent sexual assault on a child, we givce the arresting officers the task of making sure these crinminals “resist arrest” and are shot and killed on the way to being booked.
That would be justice.
prr: Additionally, the funds they have created in no way are sufficient to pay for the programs they are talking about. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
So, are you in favor of more taxes to completely fund the programs? This argument is a red herring. The transportation problems will not be solved without funding. The gas tax starts to solve the funding issues.
Your prediction that the monorail will die a dismal death after wasting “100’s of millions” is based on what? It looks like the monorail may die soon, but they haven’t spent 100’s of millions yet.
prr @ 50: You get stupider with each post. You open with a blanket assertion that somehow Washington state policies or its legal system are responsible for unleashing the likes of Ted Bundy, Gary Ridgeway, and the DC sniper on the nation. To cover up the fact that this is purely of formulation of your own fevered imagination — you challenge me to prove that it is not true. Pathetic.
Scottd @ 51….
I am in favor of creating a plan, and then the tax base to pay for it, not the other way around.
My god, now that we have these new taxes, we’ll certainly need a new state agency to administor these funds.
@ 52
Don’t be condescending towards me.
I’ve been civil towrds you to this point.
Here is the formulation of my fevered mind. This state bred these scum, and did nothing.
I am leaving now to go do yrad work at my father-in-law, so as to avaoid the whinny retort of, “oh, you can answer my next patheic post”
prr: Sure, there’s always a chance that when we get done planning, we’ll find that we can replace a floating bridge and elevated highway without funding — so why get started on funding these projects now? Better to add a few more years to the completion date instead of planning and funding concurrently — and it’s not likely that planning projects like these will require any funding.
As for creating new state agencies, last I looked, we already had a Dept. of Transportation. Another red herring from you.
No-one would argue the Gregoire is a lying bitch.
Sad. prr. sad. First Chuckie now you. Why can’t you just call her a liar? Why do you have to pull out the “b” word? Are you insecure about your masculinity? Was she supposed to “defer” to whiner/loser Dino.
Do you smoke? Stop
Do you drink? Stop or cut down.
Do you drive a gas hog? Get rid of it. If you can’t or don’t want to, this guy has a method for increasing your gas mileage almost 20 percent.
There’s nothing wrong with avoiding taxes. I do it to make ends meet all the time. It’s the great american pastime.
prr: You’ve earned my condescension with your silly and witless argument. While you’re working on your dad-in-law’s yard, ponder how Washington state contributed to the formation of Ed Gein, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Gacy, and the Boston Stangler.
Have we lost sight of the right of the victims to protect the rights of the criminals?
Ask Richard Sanders. You know, the Supreme Court justice who is the favorite of conservatives? He is incredibly hostile to prosecutors and has sided against the state in 90% of cases he’s heard involving criminal defendants. He thinks the special commitment center for sex predators is unconstitutional and that they all should be released.
Oh well. At least Talmadge was reliably pro-prosecution when he was on the court.
How is this taking care of our long term interest, they have raised taxes and made mention of transportation improvements. There is no plan, nor a guaruntee that the gas increase taxes will be used to fund these programs.
Richard Pope posted a similar comment in another thread the other day. Apparently this is the latest GOP talking point, that there is nothing mandating where the new gas tax $ is to be spent. It’s been popping up all over the place. Shockingly, it’s a load of crap.
ESSB 6091 details a project list that will be funded by the new revenues. See the gas tax thread for a link.
JDM@35
If there was voter security, then why was King County also admonished by the SAME judge for its grade school election tactics?
Roger Rabbit@37
News flash, beginning 2006 and finishing 2008 we will own the election prosess…and it wont be we conservatives it will be the citizens.
John@56
Why are you so affixed to that word, John? You really need to talk to a prfessional about your problem…
@ 62
You’re projecting again Chuckie.
John@63
No simply trying to help a fellow man with a serious problem.
@ 64
shrug…
Comment on 38
“As for Bush and Iraq.. I have my own resrvations about the guy, but it seems to me we were attacked by Al Qaeda (sp?) on 9/11”
Exactly — and “Al Qaeda” is NOT spelled I-r-a-q.
Bush has pussyfooted around far too long. I think we should go after Al Qaeda wherever they are. They weren’t in Iraq before Bush invaded, but they sure as hell are now, thanks to the fucking incompetents running our government.
Reply to 40
You’ll have your opportunity in Nov. 2008.
Oh yes, prr, one more thing — don’t forget to go after the GOP legislators who voted for the gas tax. Let’s not be selective about this. The business lobby wants this gas tax, and so do the contractors, for their own selfish reasons. As do the labor unions, especially the construction unions. But the bottom line is that our state’s economy needs this investment.
As I have said all along, it can be done without the gas tax increase by redirecting the gas tax revenues currently exported from King County to poorer counties, and if the gas tax repeal initiative passes, that should be the Governor’s and Legislature’s next step: To cut road budgets in rural and small town Washington by $125 million a year and spend that money on the Viaduct and 520 bridge. After all, it’s paid by King County drivers.
For years, King County residents have subsidized transportation spending in the rest of the state. Now it’s King County’s turn for infrastructure investment. If the rest of the state won’t play ball with us, then we should stop playing ball with them.
What goes around, comes around.
Comment on 44
We do seem to have more than our fair share of Republicans, serial killers, child molesters, and other criminal types.
Ted Bundy, by the way, was a rising young Republican star who worked for Dan Evans’ campaign.
46
You are a typical wingnut blockhead! Raising the gas tax to fulfill a public need is hardly the moral equivalent of starting an unnecessary war on false pretenses which has killed 10’s of thousands of people. Only a Republican idiot can fail to see the difference.
Reply to 50
“Tell me where this state is hard on crimninals or sex offenders?”
http://www.doc.wa.gov/faciliti.....lities.htm
Washington is the state that pioneered indefinite commitment laws for sex offenders, you fucking idiot.
Roger Rabbit@71
It is when the WSDOT is pissing money away on things like the prevailing wage laws, and the government employees are driving around in state owned Navigators, Escalades, Volvos, Suburbans and such.
Reply to 54
I wasn’t aware that the state “breeds” people. Is there a state breeding farm somewhere? How does one apply for a job as a breeder stud? Were you born to a “mare” on the state breeding farm? If not, how do you explain the fact our state produced someone as stupid as you?
Reply to 61
The citizens already own the election process, and despite mistakes and missteps, they elected the governor they wanted. Get over it.
Roger Rabbit@75
Not true, the democrats used the last election to f__k the citizens.
The hilarious thing about the Dinocrat whining over King County’s election screwups is these errors almost certainly cost Gregoire net votes. It’s hard for me to see how uncounted ballots in a Democratic county can do anything except help the GOP candidate. As for the felon vote, the available evidence indicates that felons preferred Rossi by a 4-to-1 margin.
76
Looks more like the Republicans used the last election to fuck themselves. Ater the Wenatchee fiasco, the Dinowhiners have no credibility left with the general public.
http://www.surveyusa.com/clien.....58565680b0
http://www.freerepublic.com/fo.....0674/posts
Looks nice doesnt it?
Cheesy Chuckie @ 73
Oh I get it now. You fucking Repugs are going to hold needed transportation projects hostage for a right wing agenda that includes eliminating minimum wage, prevailing wage, and unions.
Well my answer is — FUCK YOU!!! AND FUCK THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!!! Get the fuck out of my state and go live in fucking Texas where you belong!!!!
How you like them apples, asshole.
The 4th most hated governor in the entire nation!
chuck @ 76: Whine all you want, but if you had any actual evidence of Democrats rigging the election, you should have sent it to Chris Vance. He could have used it a few months ago.
Roger Rabbit@80
I never said anything about eliminating minimum wage OR unions so quit putting words in my mouth IVAN!
Roger Rabbit@80
And yes we are shooting for a more efficient system where we actually get something for our money and WSDOT is held accountable for their actions!
Chuck @ 73: I’m not sure what your problem is with Volvos, but I’d like to learn more about government employees driving in state-owned Escalades and Navigators. Can you tell me where I can read more about this, or are you just making that up?
Nice puff-piece in the Times today about Dinosore. I wonder who got paid for that one…the reporter or the Times.
scottd@85
I have nothing against a private person buying a Volvo, but the high dollar car that makes comparitivly poor milage and made on forign soil has no buisiness in the state motor pool, and if you want to see the vehicles I am referring to, if you go to the lacey Home Depot ACROSS THE ROAD is a state motorpool lot (with a sign that says that) with the very vehicles I am referring to all with state exempt plates affixed to them. That is only ONE of many motor pools as well.
Thanks, Chuck, but what about the Escalades and Navigators?
Personally I don’t see why state employees should be required to go about the public’s business in foreign-made death boxes. Do you drive a Volkswagen beetle, Chuck? I think the people who keep you from molesting your grandchildren or poaching trees from state land deserve a comfortable ride with airbags and air conditioning. They’re doing noble work.
What will you bitch about next, that state employees are using too many pencils? Fucking cheapskate.
If you don’t want to pay for those cars then support a state income tax so the people who should pay the most taxes, do.
scottd@88
I believe my post @87 told you where to find some of the navigators and escalades…read.
Roger Rabbit@89
As a matter of fact I do own a Beetle, but I drive an ’86 ranger that is plenty comfy and commands 27 mpg…not epa pie in the sky but real milage. And yea I expect the state to be equally as frugal with my tax dollars as I am with my money.
Roger Rabbit@90
“If you don’t want to pay for those cars then support a state income tax so the people who should pay the most taxes, do”>>>
Roger, put down the crack pipe, reread what you wrote and try to make it make sence.
chuck: Now I remember… you’re the guy who’s obsessed with how many Crown Victoria’s the state’s law enforcement agencies own.
Fact is, I wouldn’t be surprised if the state owned a few nice cars to ferry dignitaries around in when they come to visit. They were probably obtained through forfeiture law. Most of the time I see a state car, though, it’s something like a Metro, or maybe a Sable if the driver is really lucky. So what exactly is your point? We don’t get to have decent bridges and highways until every car in the state motor pool passes your muster?
Comment on 93
We’ve had this discussion before, but for those with Attention Deficit Disorder, under the current tax system the lowest income households pay 16% of their income in state and local taxes while affluent households pay less than 4% of their income in state and local taxes. Washington has the most regressive tax system of all the states. If you’re not well-to-do, you’re getting screwed. A state income tax would shift more tax burden to those who currently are paying less than their fair share and give relief to those who are paying more than their fair share. What’s wrong with that?
http://www.washingtonpolicy.or.....Study.html
John @ 56
In response to your post.
I don’y smoke, don’t drink, and my wife and I carpool in our hybrid.
What’s your point?
Roger Rabbit@95
Nothing, as long as it follows elimination of all other tax, (property tax, income tax) and the tax percentage is set and adjusted only by the voters.
Scottd @ 57.
I’ll be nice today and not respond in kind.
As to the mention of Ed Gein, etc…
let’s take a look at all the level 3 sex offenders:
Here is the list in my neighborhood alone, http://www.metrokc.gov/sheriff.....sults.aspx
How is this not a problem?
Roger rabitt @ all,
what a bitter, little weasel you are.
prr @ 99: You’re too kind.
If your point is that Washington state has sex offenders and that they are a problem, you’ll get no argument from me. But that’s not where you started today. @ 44 you were spouting the ridiculous and unsupported assertion that Washington’s legal system was somehow responsible for creating Ted Bundy, Gary Ridgeway, and the DC sniper. So far, you’ve offered nothing but foolish demagoguery on this point, including the always helpful suggestion that police just shoot suspects on sight to save us the trouble of trying them.
I’ll leave it at that since you’re trying to be civil today. But wasn’t that you who earlier referred to the governor as a “skank” and “bitch” — apparently because she’s female and you wish someone else were in office. You’re a real class act.
scottd@101
“But wasn’t that you who earlier referred to the governor as a “skank” and “bitch” – apparently because she’s female and you wish someone else were in office. You’re a real class act.”>>>
Actually that was John, poor guy really has a problem with that…
No, it was prr @ 38 and @ 49 — but you knew that.
scottd@103
But it is John that keeps talking about it and bringing the issue uo…
scottd@103
>>>John@3
“the one that cheated her way
You mean the governor you called a b*tch?
How did she “cheat” Chuck? You mean she merely asked for a recount and got it per the law?
Did she overstep her bounds there Chuckie? I guess in your reckoning a woman is not supposed to challenge a man – even a whiner and a loser like Dino Rossi.
Comment by John— 7/2/05 @ 3:45 pm”
Johns feelings alone, I never made statememts like he imagines or fantasizes about.
Scottd,
I still maintain the Gregoire is a all that I have said.
Rather than worry about if I have issues with a women in charge (no problem here, this appears to be the case in my home and at my office and it works just fine).
Gregoire has a long history of being anything but a lady. From her days as a racist sorririty girl, to dumping blame on her underlings whem she screws up.
Scottd,
As for my post regarding sex offenders and haredened criminlas
“I am looking at todays Seattle times and notice that this freak, Joseph Edward Duncan III, comes from of all places, Washington State.
Is our largest export in this state criminals that are a cancer on the rest of the world?
”
Bundny, ridgeway & the DC snipers are just headline examples.
Anyway about it, we have a problem in this state and one thing is for certian, our current laws do not address these prblems.
Here’s and article in todays times showing what I would like to see happen to more criminals in this state.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....der04.html
Imagine this, the election gets thrown out, and backed by the state and federal Supremes… where do you libs go from there? You must know this bitch couldnt be elected dog catcher now….where do you guys turn?
Comment by Chuck— 4/6/05 @ 12:55 am
Talk about fantasies.. Look what Chuckie’s “imagining” here.
@ 97
smoking, drinking and gasoline at the pump. Consume less of that and you are taxed less.
D’oh…
Hey Chuckie, prr:
Be proud!
John@108
Imagine this, John, if the tables were turned and lock were the one that was thrown from office I would have more likely said “You must know this bastard couldnt be elected dog catcher now”. You are the one that interjected your “weak woman” theory. That is why you need your problem adressed so you will feel better about women.
John@109
How about sign more petitions and pay less taxes?
John@110
Makes me damned proud!
@112
I don’t want a failed infrastructure and a failing economy in a failed state. No thanks. A pox on your house for wanting it so.
@113
I knew it would.
John@114
I might recomend you move to a area more deserving of you then, such as Singapore.
@ 115
Chuck I don’t know anything about Singapore. I was born here. I will die here. This place suits me just fine. The only thing that spoils it is unthinking people who are most comfortable acting in a mob frenzy.
John@116
Then I might suggest you pay more attention to the constitution as well as the bill of rights if you want to stick around.
@ 116
The founding fathers distrusted the mob Chuck and deliberately put obstacles in the way.
For example, Senators used to be elected by state legislatures.
The founding fathers would be appalled by initiative whoring.
If you want to be a tag-along with the obstructionist initiative whore crowd fine. There’s nothing illegal about it. Just as it’s my right to reject the petitions when I don’t agree with them.
John@118
Seems I remember when they felt overtaxed the threw a little tea party…
John@118
Along with a little tarring as well as feathering of local tax collectors…
Thank goodness we elected Gregoire. Rossi would be plain scary.
We never elected her. She stole it.
How did she “cheat” Chuck? You mean she merely asked for a recount and got it per the law?
Well, let’s see. Dead people, felons and illegal aliens voting for her. Sound like sheating to me.
pbj @ 21
Let’s see, we had a “trial of the century” and the Judge said Gregoire won (and that she got the most legal votes). But pbj declares that Gregoire stole the election.
Me thinks pbj is losing his marbles.
123
Yep and we republicans will remember what constitutes a “legal votes” come 2006. The 2006 elections all the counties will have the same problems as King County had in 2004.
Rufus @ 123
“Yep and we republicans will remember what constitutes a “legal votes” come 2006.”
Damn straight, you will. All evidence suggests that the majority of illegal votes favored Rossi. If you fuckers try that again, we’re going to get mean.
“The 2006 elections all the counties will have the same problems as King County had in 2004.”
Hey, dipshit, most of the counties DID have the same problems as King County. You fuckers are so blinded by your own rage, you cannot even think straight anymore.
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You fuckers are so blinded by your own rage, you cannot even think straight anymore.
DJ, they never could think straight.
420,518 — probably not enough signatures, right Goldy?
Hi
Well here at you, it will be necessary still to return.