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    Well if you don’t own your own paving company, then your just not a proper American.

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    A gas tax holiday won’t save motorists a single penny.

    The current market is characterized by a global squeeze on crude oil supplies because production growth hasn’t kept up with demand growth in recent years. In this supply-driven market, prices will rise to the level necessary so reduce demand to the level of existing supply.

    In other words, the pump price is determined by supply and demand, and market forces are indifferent to how the pump price is divided between crude oil producers, refiners and marketers, and taxing authorities. The price will be the same regardless of how much goes into tax coffers. Gas taxes come out of oil company profits, not consumer pockets.

    Consumers will pay the same for gas whether the gas tax is 60 cents a gallon or zero cents a gallon.

    How much sense does it make to suspend federal gas taxes and put that many more cents per gallon into Exxon’s profit column? You wouldn’t see pump prices drop a single penny. You would, however, see our highways crumble.

    This illustrates why McCain should not be the next president. He’s dishonest, and even worse, he has subordinated sound policy to campaign sound bites. A gas tax holiday is not in the public’s best interests, only in oil company shareholders’ interests. He knows that. But he chose to brush aside reality and the public interest in favor of his selfish political interest.

    That’s not the kind of “leadership” our country needs, or that I want to see in the White House. We’ve just gone through 8 years of that kind of “leadership” and it has been an unmitigated nightmare for the American people. Enough is enough.

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    I’d be happy if we just stopped getting involved in foreign adventures. Let’s stay out of others’ affairs. We have enough to concern ourselves with here, without going out looking for problems to use to deplete the national treasury and get a lot of young folks killed and maimed.

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    But wasn’t the gas tax holiday also heavily touted by your former hero of the democratic primary Hillary Clinton ?

    How quickly they forget…tsk tsk tsk.

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    Breaking news: Old man yells at cloud; pitbull with lipstick mauls infant with Downs syndrome. More at 11.

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    Did anyone else have a really hard time staying awake during McCain’s speech last night? I mean, besides me and McCain himself….

    Though I have to admit, he did perk up there at the very end. How long does it take for Viagra to kick in?

    The best part was the vet for Ron Paul with the sign “You cannot win an occupation.” We were high-fiving each other at home over that one.

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    I skipped last night’s speech but I hear now that McSame and lady Sarah are painting themselves as “reformers”.

    Hmmm..

    Torture was already reformed as “enhanced interrogation” maybe now it’s a “terrorist field dressing” in honor of the yearly moose hunt ritual.

    Disloyal Republicans like the U.S. Attorneys will not be “forced resignations” but “indefinite home assignments”.

    Earmarks for loyal Republicans will be “targeted tax rebates”.

    No-bid contracts for Republican party donors will be “wise investments for the American people”.

    Ehhh.. Same old bullshit different cloak on it.

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    Rabbit @4 – please stop posting. Comment threads on blogs are for name calling and random spam, not intelligent discourse. You are breaking the rules. (But maybe you should go give some Econ 101 seminars to the general populace, as most of them are woefully ignorant of what you speak).

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    Hmmm…Goldy, when I read this…

    ““Time and again, the president has warned Congress of the pending shortfall and submitted fiscally prudent budgets to close the gap,” Ms. Peters said, in remarks that reflected the political nature of the long-running debate over how to pay for road-building.”

    Maybe you need to speak to Robert Byrd king of pork highway projects

    Robert C. Byrd Drive, from Beckley to Sophia (Byrd’s hometown)
    Robert C. Byrd Highway
    Robert C. Byrd Federal Correctional Institution – bybygoober’s last housing location
    Robert C. Byrd Freeway
    Robert C. Byrd Bridge between Huntington and Chesapeake, Ohio
    Robert C. Byrd Expressway, U.S. 52 near Weirton
    Robert C. Byrd Visitor Center at Harpers Ferry National Historic Park – had to build the road there.

    Of course Puddy digs deeper:

    http://www.theind.com/index.ph.....;Itemid=73

    What’s funny is:”And in the 7th Congressional District, recently announced Democratic Party candidate Don Cravins Jr. is taking aim at his opponent’s blanket policy of not taking appropriations requests.”

    Yes, a Moonbat! saying vote for me and I’ll bring home the highway pork!

    Or this one: theheritagefoundry.org/2008/07/29/387-congressmen-agree-running-up-the-deficit-to-pay-for-pork-is-a-good-idea/

    I thought this was the “No earmarks congress”.

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    yelling loser boy@11: You skipped last night and bybygoober is MIA – Moron in Absence today. A meeting of the mindless?

    Now that’s too funny.

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    14 – Sarah raised taxes on the oil industry and handed out checks to everyone.

    How is this not “socialism” and/or buying your popularity numbers?

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    Yes Goldy, call the old KKK Grand Klaxon and ask why all de pork:

    $2.95 billion: total West Va. pork from 1991 to 2006

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    15 – No what’s too funny is that your addiction to right wing bullshit makes you silly.

    You have to laugh to keep from crying.

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    Yes yelling loser boy crying at your continue repetition. Show me that US map again for the fifth time!

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    You dumlibs forget who built the highays and why.

    It was a Rep .. DD Ike and they were built as part of or national offense!

    What business do the Feds have in subsidizing roads anyway? I will bet in Alaska roads are pretty much built with State money except when needed to support the missile defense systems

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    Fact check dot org on McCain and the truth:

    We checked the accuracy of McCain’s speech accepting the Republican nomination and noted the following:

    McCain claimed that Obama’s health care plan would “force small businesses to cut jobs” and would put “a bureaucrat … between you and your doctor.” In fact, the plan exempts small businesses, and those who have insurance now could keep the coverage they have.

    McCain attacked Obama for voting for “corporate welfare” for oil companies. In fact, the bill Obama voted for raised taxes on oil companies by $300 million over 11 years while providing $5.8 billion in subsidies for renewable energy, energy efficiency and alternative fuels.

    McCain said oil imports send “$700 billion a year to countries that don’t like us very much.” But the U.S. is on track to import a total of only $536 billion worth of oil at current prices, and close to a third of that comes from Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom.

    He promised to increase use of “wind, tide [and] solar” energy, though his actual energy plan contains no new money for renewable energy. He has said elsewhere that renewable sources won’t produce as much as people think.

    He called for “reducing government spending and getting rid of failed programs,” but as in the past failed to cite a single program that he would eliminate or reduce.

    He said Obama would “close” markets to trade. In fact, Obama, though he once said he wanted to “renegotiate” the North American Free Trade Agreement, now says he simply wants to try to strengthen environmental and labor provisions in it.

    The usual bunch of republican lies. Vote republican if you want:
    Unnecessary wars
    Record budget deficits
    Record earmarks
    Record corruption and cronyism
    Record incompetence (Justice dept., Katrina, Safavian, Blackwater, no-bid Halliburton contracts….and on and on)

    King of the earmark: The state of alaska has more earmarks per capita than any state in the union – and to think Palin wanted to succede…

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    @14: I happen to like Robert Byrd just about now – the Byrd scholarship for academic excellence is helping to pay for college.

    Ain’t no Republicans sponsoring scholarships for academic excellence – republicans give to Exxon, Halliburton and Blackwater.

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    Kings of the Pork:

    The three top House leaders — Speaker J. Dennis Hastert , majority leader John A. Boehner , and majority whip Roy Blunt , all Republicans — have not cast a single vote against any of the projects that have been challenged by fiscal conservatives on the House floor. One of the projects — $2.5 million for the Illinois Technology Transition Center — was sought by Hastert himself and was affirmed quickly on a voice vote.

    Among the other earmarks that Hastert, Boehner, and Blunt have supported were $500,000 to renovate a municipal swimming pool in Banning, Calif.; $250,000 for a performing arts center in Plattsburgh, N.Y.; $1 million for a locomotive demonstration in Pennsylvania; $1 million for the Southern and Eastern Kentucky Tourism Development Association; $180,000 for tomato production in Ohio; and $1.4 million in two separate earmarks for Mystic Aquarium in Connecticut.

    All of the projects were retained in lopsided votes, with only a core group of about 50 fiscal conservatives voting consistently to strike the spending. But House leaders continue to insist they’re being tough on earmarks.

    Representative Jeff Flake , an Arizona Republican who has led the effort to remove earmarks from spending bills, said the leaders can’t credibly claim to be against wasteful spending as long as they support the earmarks.

    In 2006 – house republican leaders supported earmarks and prevented reform – as even a fellow republican admitted.

    Bottom line – republicans had more pork than ever when they were in control and prevented earmark reform.

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    Deformed Democrat@25:

    Robert 3 Sheets Amerikkka Byrd is the King of Pork. You can’t deny it. You can try to spin it but you can’t.

    We’re talking about the fund running out of money in 2008. So why do you bring up info before 2007?

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    Oh so Obama change change his mind on the NAFTA but McCain can’t change his mind on “wind, tide and solar energy?

    What a ‘tard you are.

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    BULLSHITTIUM Alert: “The state of alaska has more earmarks per capita than any state in the union – and to think Palin wanted to succede…”

    First it’s secede. Next The King of Pork is Byrd and his Byrd Droppings in WVA.

    Dems are dem facts.

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    Puddy @ 28

    No. The facts are here.

    Did you manage to not read “per capita” in the text you quoted?

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    Don Joe, I was referring to Robert Byrd and his single handed $3.7 Billion and counting to WVA.

    But I looked at these appropriations and from the CAGW web site (you can see this too)

    $51,000,000.00
    $1,000,000.00
    $10,000,000.00
    $9,600,000.00
    $8,000,000.00
    $12,700,000.00
    $6,000,000.00
    $12,000,000.00
    $4,000,000.00
    $10,000,000.00
    $3,500,000.00
    $16,500,000.00
    $8,100,000.00
    $16,000,000.00
    $1,000,000.00
    $16,500,000.00
    $3,000,000.00
    $3,200,000.00
    $3,300,000.00
    $1,000,000.00
    $1,000,000.00
    $4,400,000.00
    $2,400,000.00
    $1,200,000.00
    $500,000.00
    =$215,900,000 just in military spending. So you need to figger it out as this is not for the common folk. So of the $346 Million…

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    Puddy

    First, when you said “BULLSHITTIUM Alert,” you were saying that the claim about Alaska was false. Turns out it’s quite true.

    Second, Robert Byrd’s been in the Senate for a full decade longer than Ted Stevens, but Stevens has brought home $3.4 billion in pork. And, if we figure that on a per capita basis, Stevens comes out way ahead of Byrd.

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    Don Joe: You betcha. Because I don’t count military expenditures. Military expenditures don’t go to the populace. Byrd droppings did.

    if you decide to search these HA archives, I have decried Ted Stevens almost as much as Robert Byrd. I have been very open and even handed. But when the leftists here want to only discuss one side I go one sided.

    Hence Byrd Droppings.

    And… Most of Ted Stevens monies are military. Most of Byrd Droppings are real pork.

    And do you see Ted Stevens monuments?

    Robert C. Byrd Drive, from Beckley to Sophia (Byrd’s hometown)
    Robert C. Byrd National Technology Transfer Center at Wheeling Jesuit University
    Robert C. Byrd Highway
    Robert C. Byrd Federal Correctional Institution
    Robert C. Byrd High School
    Robert C. Byrd Freeway
    Robert C. Byrd Center for Hospitality and Tourism
    Robert C. Byrd Science Center
    Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center of West Virginia
    Robert C. Byrd Cancer Research Center

    Robert C. Byrd Technology Center at Alderson-Broaddus College
    Robert C. Byrd Hardwood Technologies Center, near Princeton
    Robert C. Byrd Bridge between Huntington and Chesapeake, Ohio
    Robert C. Byrd addition to the lodge at Oglebay Park, Wheeling
    Robert C. Byrd Community Center, Pine Grove
    Robert C. Byrd Honors Scholarships
    Robert C. Byrd Expressway, U.S. 52 near Weirton
    Robert C. Byrd Institute in Charleston
    Robert C. Byrd Institute for Advanced Flexible Manufacturing
    Robert C. Byrd Visitor Center at Harpers Ferry National Historic Park
    Robert C. Byrd Federal Courthouse
    Robert C. Byrd Academic and Technology Center
    Robert C. Byrd United Technical Center
    Robert C. Byrd Federal Building (there are two)
    Robert C. Byrd Hilltop Office Complex
    Robert C. Byrd Library and Robert C. Byrd Learning Resource Center
    Robert C. Byrd Rural Health Center
    Robert C. Byrd Clinical Addition to the veteran’s hospital in Huntington
    Robert C. Byrd Industrial Park, Hardy County
    Robert C. Byrd Scholastic Recognition Award
    Robert C. Byrd Community Center in the naval station, Sugar Grove
    Robert C. Byrd Clinic at the West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine
    Robert C. Byrd Biotechnology Science Center at Marshall University

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    Puddy @ 33

    Military expenditures don’t go to the populace.

    Right. Military expenditures end up in the hands of the military-industrial complex. So, why should these be OK, while, say, things like roads and agriculture and education shouldn’t be OK?

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    Sarah is an amazing choice and I don’t like how everyone here always speaks so negatively about her. She has class, its time to show yours.

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    Don Joe: Huh?

    Well, for instance there isn’t much of a military complex in WVA.

    Second, everything is named after Robert Byrd.

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    Puddy @ 36

    Huh?

    Ah, so the only reason you make a distinction between defense earmarks and other earmarks is that it gives you some way to bash Robert Byrd while giving Alaska’s politicians a pass. To quote the Church Lady, how convenient!

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    Don Joe: If I wanted to jump on someone it would be “The King” of military opulence; Senator Dan Inouye of Hawaii. Look at all the largess he brings in.

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    Puddy @ 38

    That still doesn’t explain why you think corporate welfare in the form of defense contracts is some “better” form of pork than pork that actually benefits people in a more direct manner.

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    Don Joe: Tell all of us how does military pork count against the common man. For all the military pork Norm Dicks gets here, do you benefit from it?

    If so how?

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    Puddy @ 40

    Blink. Why are you asking the same question I’ve answered three times now yet refusing to answer my question? Do you simply not understand the meaning of the phrase “benefits people in a more direct manner?”

    Do you even understand the classic guns vs butter tradeoff?

    With nearly every form of pork, the product or service that’s purchased has some direct benefit to people. We drive on roads. We get college educations. Our food is either better or costs less. These expenditures have a direct and positive benefit to our way of life.

    With defense expenditures, however, we generally put the thing we buy on a shelf and pray that we never have to use it. And, even when we do use it, the end result is destruction, not construction.

    Which is why I’m asking you why you’re discounting defense spending when considering the porkiness of Alaska’s earmarks? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?

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    16. YLB spews:
    14 – Sarah raised taxes on the oil industry and handed out checks to everyone.
    How is this not “socialism” and/or buying your popularity numbers?

      
    So you agree that raising taxes and giving handouts is socialism. It’s about time you were truthful.

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