Apparently, initiative profiteer Tim Eyman has failed to produce enough signatures to qualify Referendum 65 for the ballot. More later….
UPDATE:
Andrew Villeneuve of NPI called me from the Secretary of State’s office to report that Timmy made a big show of arriving late, counting petitions in front of reporters, and then… oh no… dramatically announcing that he just fell short with a total of 105,000 signatures. Indeed, I’ve already heard radio reports repeating that number.
But here’s the thing — and this is very important to remember — Tim Eyman is a lying sack of shit. No really… he is. So you cannot believe a single word he says.
The Sec. of State didn’t count the petitions, Tim did. And according to Andrew, he didn’t even count the signatures, just the petitions at hand. So this 105,000 number… it’s total bullshit.
Now that I’ve pointed this out, I expect that no other media outlet will repeat it. And there’s no need to. Eyman failed to qualify R-65 for the ballot. That’s all you need to report. Eyman failed. Once again.
Earlier today the WA state Christian Coalition announced it had collected 14,000 signatures. Big whoop. Sounds to me like Referendum Sunday was dud, and our right-wing Evangelicals have proven themselves to be paper tigers. I mean if you have God on your side and you have our state’s most experienced initiative monger on your side, how can you fail?
I’ll tell you how… it’s what I’ve been saying all along: most people oppose discrimination. Even Republicans. And most people simply don’t think it’s all that American to deny somebody a mortgage just because you think he might be gay. We can’t trust Eyman’s numbers, but from the lack of reports of gee, I dunno… actual signature gatherers, my educated guess is that Tim probably didn’t collect half the signatures he reported. And that, I suppose, is a referendum of sorts, all by itself.
UPDATE, UPDATE:
I guess this is what happens when you dance with the devil:
Leaders of some of the church groups who’d backed the measure, which would have vetoed a ban on discrimination based on sexual orientation, were deeply disappointed and surprised. Some said they were also unhappy at Eyman’s refusal in recent weeks to tell them how many signatures he’d gathered. In the end, the Faith and Freedom Network’s Gary Randall said, Eyman simply stopped replying to his calls.
Um… Timmy didn’t return your calls because he was lying about the signature count all along. Of course, they didn’t seem to mind Tim’s lies when they were repeating them from the pulpit, so I suppose what goes around comes around.
Oh and by the way, as Andrew reminds us, Timmy is not only a liar, but a failure.
This, of course, is simply another failure in a growing list failures for Eyman. Other recent failures include I-892 and I-864 (2004), I-807 (2003) and I-267 (2002).
Awesome.
Goldy, like you, I predicted this would not happen. I had faith in the citizens of this state not to sing up for discrimination. Thank God(yes God made it happen for all you wing-nuts)that fairness and logic ruled the day. Of course those same wing nuts will probably blame it on the devil since it is 6-6-06.
Thanks for all the coverage on this Goldy-May see you tonight to celebrate!
Here is the PI’s first story:
Eyman, appearing at the state elections division just minutes before closing time Tuesday, said he and allies had collected 105,103 signatures. That’s fewer than the 112,440 bare minimum and considerably less than the 130,000 that is suggested in order to cover duplicate or invalid signatures.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....n06ww.html
Instead of that Darth Vader outfit, the scene called for a motorcycle, a swimming pool, and a shark.
Just as Dan Savage has coined a new word “Santorum” based upon the soon to be ex-Senator, we can come up with a new one too:
Eyman (v): To be unable to perform, especially a homosexual act:
Usage: JCH needed the money, but eymaned because his ass was too sore from his last three tricks.
This shows that the Taliban wing of the GOP is LOOOOOOSING traction in this state. Perhaps this is a strong sign to the inbred wingnuts that hang out here on HA that they’re in the wrong place? Wouldn’t you morons be better off in Alabama or Mississippi or some other third world country? You look like fools tonight. The churches that got involved look like fools tonight. The biggots look like IMPOTENT fools tonight. And Timmy, well he looks like a fool all the time. Even the whackjob right will probably abandon him after this! HE HE!
Folks hot off the press support the real democtats not Mao idiots.
Dear klake,
Each week, Senator Frist and the Republican Leadership make choices about the Senate agenda. They could focus our work on record high gas prices, the war in Iraq, or skyrocketing health care costs.
But there’s an ugly truth: it’s election season and down-in-the-polls Republicans are turning to their same old playbook – fear and division. Later this week, Bill Frist, in an attempt to appease extreme right wing elements of the Republican Party, has promised that the Senate will vote on the Federal Marriage Amendment and attempt to write discrimination into the Constitution for the first time in 230 years.
Join me in telling Senator Frist, “The Senate should be working on real issues – not writing discrimination into the Constitution” by visiting the DSCC’s website:
http://www.dscc.org/realissues
This divisive and unnecessary amendment that would undermine the Constitution has overwhelmingly failed each time the Senate has voted on it. We don’t need another Terri Schiavo moment where we spend valuable time away from the important work that needs to be done. Now, more than ever, it’s time to focus on security, solutions for the high cost of healthcare and gas prices.
But you know Bill Frist and the Republican Leadership can’t be trusted to address real issues. After all, Senate Republicans and their big oil friends have forced more than ten votes to drill for oil in ANWR, but not a single vote to lower gas prices. They spent months trying to privatize Social Security, but Bill Frist can’t find room in the schedule to raise the minimum wage or provide funding for Stem Cell research.
We need a President and a Congress that doesn’t play divisive politics. At a time of war, Republicans should unite the country and focus on the real issues, not divide and undermine its founding principles.
http://www.dscc.org/realissues
Thank you,
Harry Reid
Roger you fix the spelling
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Buh bye Timbo!!
I like how it just fell shy of qualifying. That makes it a little sweeter.
Even the whackjob right will probably abandon him after this! HE HE!
Commentby LeftTurn— 6/6/06@ 5:16 pm
I wouldn’t use the same terminology you have chosen, but I sure hope you are correct.
I like how it just fell shy of qualifying. That makes it a little sweeter.
Commentby Yup— 6/6/06@ 5:20 pm
Who said it fell just short of qualifying? Tim Lieman. He hasn’t shown his alleged collection of 105,103 signatures to anyone. I doubt he even got 50,000 signatures.
Yup @ 10 — Considering the usual validation factors, Eyman might have been 30% shy of qualifying.
Considering the desperation factor, maybe even worse.
Someone has to make Eyman prove he collected the signatures. Given all his lies of late, I’m wondering if he got 2,000.
And will John Carlson, who was proclaiming that R-65 would easily qualify with 200,000+ signatures at 4:35 today call out Eyman for his lies? Or will he just eyman?
Taxes are to Democrat politicians as Crack is to the addict, they can never get enough, and they will hurt those who get in the way of their supply.
Eyman (v): To be unable to perform, especially a homosexual act:
Usage: JCH needed the money, but eymaned because his ass was too sore from his last three tricks.
Commentby JDB— 6/6/06@ 5:14 pm
Actually, a lot of people say that Tim Eyman CAN perform a certain homosexual act, as in “Tim Eyman can …”
But they are probably using improper grammar, using CAN (which means being able to) instead of MAY (which means being allowed to).
Crack is to an addict as a Big Black Man is to JCH, something he wants deep inside him even if he knows it will hurt him alot.
Richard and I agree on something. I doubt he had 50,000 signatures either. This whole referendum was a dud.
If these religious fundamentalists don’t have the chance to demagogue on the issue of boys kissing, what’s next? Attacking poverty? The high American divorce rate? Child hunger? For SHAME!!!
I would say this shows a bunch of folks lacking the courage of their convictions. Some elements in the GOP have been heavily invested in this issue for over 20 years, and kept this bill from passing. Even making deals to get “NO” votes for GOP legislators who might have otherwise voted in favor of it. A lot of pastors, especially from the independent fundamentalist churches, have also been heavily invested in this issue. And the state GOP was counting on this thing being on this year’s ballot, believing that more conservative voters would turn out in droves in order to reject this new law.
They could have put together an effective force to get this thing on the ballot. They could have had people with money give money to hire signature gatherers. They could have mobilized the GOP faithful early to get signatures. They could have mobilized their own churches early to get signatures, instead of waiting until two weeks before the deadline to do anything.
Instead, they offered all of their prayers to the false god of Eymanism …
The only reason I was kind of hoping this would get on the ballot is so the people in this state could show in a vote that they support gay rights. At this point, it is the legislature deciding the issue. A referendum of the people supporting it (which would have been against Eyman) would send a positive message to the rest of the country.
The experience so far is that the gay rights are either imposed by judges or approved by legislatures. Any time it has come up for a popular vote, it has lost. We could have started the tide turning in the other direction.
And, yes, I agree that the Senate is wasting its time.
I am personally happy it failed. I generally sign almost any petition because I figure put it on the ballot and let the voters make the call, but this one I had a hard time with. I was never offered a chance to sign it, and I would have refused had the chance come.
But like it or not, he had the civic right to try it. He did and failed, so lets move on. The horse is dead and bloody.
Decency wins in Washington. That’s definitely worth a toast!
JDB, William J Jefferson, DEMOCRAT, LA [hehe]
Janet: The only reason I was kind of hoping this would get on the ballot is so the people in this state could show in a vote that they support gay rights.
Actually, they showed their support by refusing to sign the petitions. Our legislators already executed the will of the people when they passed the bill as our representatives. Sorry you don’t like representative democracy, but that’s always been the way it is in this country.
17. JDB, Perhaps a little Democrat “Tookie Williams” love for your wife and daughter might make a Republican out of you.Not a Republican around for miles when the Crips and Tookie give Mrs. JDB 8 inches of black love up her rectum. I bet your daughter would enjoy 6 or 8 of Tookie’s Democrat Crip buddies giving her some more of the same!!! JDB, you must respect their “Democrat” culture and “understand” their rage. Maybe after they finish with your wife and daughter they will “enjoy” you. Black Democrats at play, and not a Republican around for miles!!! Have a great evening!!
17, cont…….Do you have more than one daughter?
17, cont…….Swallow every drop from the Democrat Black Crips and their leader, Democrat Tookie Williams, JDB. Be sensitive and caring for Democrat “culture”!!
The experience so far is that the gay rights are either imposed by judges or approved by legislatures. …
And, yes, I agree that the Senate is wasting its time.
Commentby Janet S— 6/6/06@ 5:57 pm
I have a lot of concerns about gay marriage being imposed by judicial fiat. While it may not seem that important in Washington, there lots of states where it is much more difficult to get a divorce.
So far, only Massachusetts has done this. In Massachusetts, if your marriage partner doesn’t agree to the divorce, you have to wait a minimum of six months after filing before the court can grant the divorce. But at least you have the right to a divorce based upon irreconcilable differences.
Many states are even more difficult to grant a divorce. In Illinois (this was 10 years ago, when I had occasion to look up their law, when presented with an interstate divorce case), you have to prove adultery or some other heinous act, or have been completely separated and apart (as in no living together or any sort of sexual relations) for at least two years.
In the United Kingdom, it is even worse. If you can’t prove adultery, you have to be separated for a total of at least four out of the last five years — i.e. wait for at least four years. At least in the UK, you can have relations up to 365 times during the five year period, and still get a divorce … Charles and Diana used this provision, and filed sometime after they had been separated for four years.
Laws that make divorce difficult are based on society’s desire to value and protect marriage between one man and one woman. These principles deprive people of certain liberties and freedom to act in the context of marriage.
On the other hand, the idea of same-sex marriage is based on liberty and freedom to act. The idea that a same-sex couple needs to be granted freedom to do what they want, and that those rights triumph over society’s laws limited marriage to one man and one woman.
So if we allow legal recognition of same-sex marriage, we should also allow legal recognition to the right of either partner in a same-sex marriage to terminate that marriage immediately, without any difficulty, having to prove a reason for the divorce, or having to wait any period of time at all.
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]
(Quite a mouthfull smartass)
You lost. Deal with it Mr. Racist.
This is our town, you hear. Take your homophobia, your hate and your hypocracy and go. Just go. If you loathe Washington so much; if you truly believe that we are all a bunch of Librul, tax and spend (As oppose to rightwing tax cut and spend), gay loving antiwar leftist; GET YOUR ASS OUT OF MY STATE RIGHT THE HELL THIS MINUTE.
Sorry, forgot to sign that last post.
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“Roger you fix the spelling” Commentby klake— 6/6/06@ 5:19 pm
Fix your own spelling! I’m not your fucking editor. My job is to point out how stupid wingfucks (including you) are.
Eyeman should do an initiative to give undocumented taxpayers amnesty from paying taxes. There are thousands of undocumented taxpayers in the US with no place to live and no jobs because of government persecution. The government repeatedly violates some of their most basic human rights such as right to a bank account or right to own money. They are victims in the truest sense of the word but no one comes to their defense. Will you please help. Call your local congressman and demand amnesty for the undocumented tax payer. Because a taxpayer is a terrible thing to waste.
This is our town, you hear. Take your homophobia, your hate and your hypocracy and go. Just go. If you loathe Washington so much; if you truly believe that we are all a bunch of Librul, tax and spend (As oppose to rightwing tax cut and spend), gay loving antiwar leftist; GET YOUR ASS OUT OF MY STATE RIGHT THE HELL THIS MINUTE.
Commentby Anonymous— 6/6/06@ 6:24 pm
Ah STFU. Thousand of liberals promised to leave this country after Bush got elected but did they, noooooo. We are not leaving so get use to it.
Richard Pope @ 29
Judges interpret the law. When my Dominionist bothers agree with the ruling, it is Sound Jurisprudence. When they disagree with the ruling, the Judge is a Judical Activist. This includes Judges appointed by the Fight Suit in Chief.
For further reading, visit the conservative dictionary:
http://www.turnleft.com/condef.html
you know goldy you do an awful lot of gloating over other people’s failures…..but at least they are actually doing something whether you agree with it or not.
and you?
what are your shining examples of successes?
i wouldn’t count HA if i were you. after all…all this blog is ,is your constant whining about what OTHER people are doing.or not doing.
you have alot of opinions but no credentials to back them up.have you ever actually held a real job? run a business? created jobs for other people? done ANYTHING for anyone other than yourself? contributed to anything other than the “goldy fund”?
it’s so easy to tear other people’s ideas apart…..especially since you yourself have never had an original thought …..
don’t you think it’s time to suck it up and become a grownup?
think of your daughter.
Dufus, a TROLL on a LIBERAL political board, is telling somewhat to STFU?! Ahhh … Dufus … if you don’t like the comments here, find another board to post your rants on.
RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy @34
Find, don’t leave. But you best deal with it that progressives run Washington State.
We do not stick our nose in our neighbors bedroom, we do not give tax cuts to billionares, and we pay for public projects that benifit evrybody, and not just the 1/100th.
Thank you Mr. Rabbit, but talking compassion to rascist Homophobe like Mr. Kennedy is like trying to teach a pig to fly. It waste your time and annoys the pig.
Dinner is burnig. Ogg out.
@36 Goldy who correctly called the decision on the Washington State Gubernatorial recount, and highlighted the motherbeating past of David Irons, and consistently brings a spotlight onto the hypocrisy and lies of the Neocon Right,has earned their unending, undying hatred. At every opportunnity they display their pathetic, partisanship and pysochopathic vitriole. . .right here, at one of the shining examples of the First Amendment in action. ChristianistIdiot is a prime example. Chickenhawk, back of the Culture of Corruption, America Hater. Clealy a bigot and backer of Eyman’s folly. Eat your heart out.
“We do not stick our nose in our neighbors bedroom, we do not give tax cuts to billionares, and we pay for public projects that benifit evrybody, and not just the 1/100th.”
oh really????
now that’s pretty funny.
you should add….that you don’t earn alot of money, work hard, help your neighbors, teach your kids manners, learn how to spell,and even though you supposedly [HAH!] don’t have your NOSE in your neighbor’s bedroom window you do want to have YOUR HAND IN THEIR WALLET….BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO DAMN LAZY TO WORK FOR YOURSELF. redistribution of wealth against a person’s wishes is called stealing….
get a clue!
37
Whoa I must of hurt rabbits feelings. Sorry rabbit. Damn you liberals are so emotional. No wonder there are no liberals in the military. Geeeesh
I was wondering about this in the Spokesman Review:
“Randall and Rick Forcier, director of the Christian Coalition of Washington, said they hope to run a ballot measure on their own.”
Can that happen? I hope not.
BTW, to those who said voters have never supported gay rights at the ballot box – last year, in Maine, supporters upheld an anti-discrimination law.
Anonymous, Perhaps a little democrat “Tookie Williams” anal love for you, too. Jesse Jackson will watch!! Enjoy your Democrat AIDs/HIV sodomy!! And later you can blame your AIDs sickness on George Bush, or Newt, or Ronald Reagan!!
Didn’t Cooney and Babs Strasand say they would leave the USA if Bush won? Didn’t Penn the doper say the same?? Democrat losers, help me here!!!!
34, Atlas has Shrugged. When the producers leave, the “grasshopper” Democrat progressives [“guvment hacks, union thugs, welfare trash, and food stamp libs] will need to tax each other. Now that will be fun to watch!! Democrat victims taxing Democrat victims!!!!
I know since becoming Kennedys I am not going anywhere. I am having to much fun raping and murdering babes. And there is nothing you libs are going to do about it. Hehe
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]
(Quite a mouthfull smartass)
You lost. Deal with it Mr. Racist.
Commentby Anonymous […………………………………………………………………..As a dumbass, Democrat, You will STFU and vote for me [Pat Kennedy] again, and again, and again!!! Get it??
One advantage Same Sex Partners can take advantage of is a little “tax planning”.
Since both can file as Single…they are entitled to the $5000 standard deduction in filing seperate returns.
Married couples are entitled to a $10,000 standard deduction.
With a little planning, same sex couples can have ALL the ITEMIZED DEDUCTIONS in the HIGHER EARNERS name.
Therefore the lower income partner could take the Standard Deduction of $5000…..
And the higher income partner could Itemize and take all the deductions by having things in his name.
This is something that doesn’t work for married filing seperately couples….especially in Community Property States.
47, Rufus Kennedy, I feel the same. Let’s drink, party, kill another Mary Jo, bitchslap a black security bitch guard at LAX, and then wreak a couple cars!!!!
47, Rufus Kennedy, I feel the same. Let’s drink, party, kill another Mary Jo, bitchslap a black security bitch guard at LAX, and then wreak a couple cars!!!!
Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 6/6/06@ 7:00 pm
Right on!!! Hey grab a couple foil bricks out of the freezer to….. you know…the inheritance. Don’t touch the one that reads “Clarence Beeks” I will take care to that one.
L O motherfucking L.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....source=rss
Former state Republican Party Chairman Chris Vance blasted Eyman.
“Now he’s coming in and hijacking issues and shoving his way into an issue because it’s become a business for him. It’s how he gets paid,” Vance said. “There will be no end to Tim Eyman as long as people are wiling to send him money … I think it’s hurting the legitimate perception of the initiative process. When you’ve got a clown out there in a Darth Vader suit lying to the press and things like that, it’s not good for the initiative and referendum process.”
If you can’t get the hardcore R’s in your corner, Tim, you’ve turned into a joke.
So we know for sure that there are, at least, 105103 gay and lesbian haters in this state (according to Tim’s overstated numbers – let his claim stand!). Let’s figure a margin of error of 10% for the just-plain-stupid who signed Eyman’s disgusting document, out of ignorance. That’s few enough that they will blend back into the background radiation of bible touting, hate mongering and pulpit pandering . The only thing left is a slime trail left by each as darkness falls on Tim’s failure!
Meanwhile, I hope that my friends and associates who are gay and lesbian and all straight persons who believe government, Republicans and especially Tim Eyman, do not belong in our personal lives, stay alert to bigotry and discrimination and never let anyone get away with it again in this state.
We should cherish the fight and the victory of our particular brand of politics in Washington State. The battle is far from over but hopefully the Right is feeling the push back – – – finally! Yes, progressive Washingtonians will be under continuous attack by the paternal, tough love, “I know what’s best for you”, wingnut Rightests, but perhaps their agenda is temporarily sidetracked.
We who believe in fairness for all, should rejoice in the fact that our co-workers who are gay or lesbian can bring out pictures of their loved ones and now talk about the movie they went to or the trip to the coast with their partner with the realization that they are safe, for the first time in ages, from any overt or covert retaliation. Businesses better be on the alert because some examples will be made of bigot businesses.
I hope this will all pass from memory as the bigot preachers and the Tim Eyman types crawl back under their rocks. But we should not forget what it was like before the righteous* victory we all won – – – gay and straight alike – – – lest it happen all over again several generations from now.
*I use this word especially for the born again bigots who love to make righteous statements of hate toward others while feeling fully protected by God.
Thanks David for keeping this topic in play on HA.org. You have accomplished a great deal with your blog. I hope to hear you on the radio regularly in the near future.
Former state Republican Party Chairman Chris Vance blasted Eyman.
“Now he’s coming in and hijacking issues and shoving his way into an issue because it’s become a business for him. It’s how he gets paid,” Vance said. “There will be no end to Tim Eyman as long as people are wiling to send him money … I think it’s hurting the legitimate perception of the initiative process. When you’ve got a clown out there in a Darth Vader suit lying to the press and things like that, it’s not good for the initiative and referendum process.”
Commentby eponymous coward— 6/6/06@ 7:21 pm
I certainly have to agree with Chris Vance on this one.
Tim Eyman’s latest pathetic attempt to emulate P.T. Barnum falls short in both (a) entertainment value and (b) suckers.
Let’s hope donations to his salary fund fell short of goals, too.
One advantage Same Sex Partners can take advantage of is a little “tax planning”.
Commentby Mr. Cynical— 6/6/06@ 7:00 pm
True, but opposite sex partners can do the same thing if they like. All they have to do is to dissolve their marriage.
Although a same-sex couple married in Massachusetts or Washington would have all the benefits of marriage under state law, but still be considered as two single persons for federal tax purposes under the federal Defense of Marriage Act.
Checking on Sucky Politics, the hobby blog of my friend and personal grocer Stefan Sharkansky — a wingnut who can’t spell his own fucking name — I see NOTHING about Timmy’s latest implosion.
Stefan at least understands that when there’s nothing you can say, it’s best to say nothing. Now if he would only learn how to spell his own fucking name …
… and don’t forget to plant some CARROTS, Stefan!!!
CARROTS!!! Yummy! I love CARROTS!!! :D :D :D
Yeah I tried finding a signature gatherer to sign that initiative after church one day. I couldnt find one. He only fell a few thousand short. Tim next time you put this up make sure you get signature gatherers just outside the church. Make it easy on us OK.
As I predicted, even the whackjob righties are abandoning Timmy. And by the way, the fucking asshole liar got less than 20,000 signatures. Period. If he’s talking he’s lying and all the assholes who’ve thrown in with him deserve whatever shame gets visited upon them.
As for Janet S’ comments, well Janet S the people of the state of Washington did vote to support gay rights by electing a Legislature that enacted this law. That’s the will of the people talking!
By the way for you extreme idiots who supported Timmy, let me ask you this. Since you’re cloaking your homophobia in Biblical terms, claiming some spiritual basis for this initiative, when will we see you send an initiative to Olympia requesting that the Legislature outlaw divorce? Jesus actually spoke against that six times where he said not one word about gat marraige!!! Hypocrites.
Wow $105,000 + signatures all with $4,000.00. That is a little over 26,000 signatures per thousand dollars. Tim will put this on the ballots sometime in the future. It sounds like it was just a money issue and lack of publicity from christian churches. We will get em next time.
So RUFASSSSSS will you be pushing for an Amendment against divorce too? Didn’t think so – your side got toasted. You lost – your boy didn’t get 105,000 anythings! Your side is in hiding. You are all crying and moaning in anguish that you got beaten like left-handed step children. Feel the pain bitch. It’s coming your way more often.
LeftTurn@64 Not a “biblical” person myself but…Matthew 19:3-9 covers marrage…man with woman
Hey Tim, if you need someone to pass out flyers next time to people coming out of church I am game. All you really need is a sign stating where the nearest signature gatherer is located and you will have thousands signing in no time. If you hit every church on Sunday from Everett to Olympia you would probably have enough signatures gathered in one day to get it on the ballot.
Left Turn, This “Gay Rights” issue seems very important to you. Do you like being fucked up the ass by fellow black and Jewish Democrats??
Feel the pain bitch.
Commentby LeftTurn [……………………………………………………………………………..Er, Left Turn, Is this how gay Democrat “love chat” with each other???]
Hey Rufasssss – you might get into trouble in the morning. This law takes effect – there is now a ban on people having sex with animals – you could go to jail if you get caught! HE HE!
Jesus actually spoke against that six times where he said not one word about gat marraige!!! Hypocrites.
Commentby LeftTurn […………………”gat marraige”? Not much on high school or college, eh, Left Turn??]
@67
Actually Chuck the passage you reference doesn’t say one word about gay marraige but it is one of the six that talks about divorce. Yet oddly enough, the right wing troll fucks aren’t worried about divorce. Imagine that.
JDB, Perhaps a little Democrat “Tookie Williams” love for your wife and daughter might make a Republican out of you.Not a Republican around for miles when the Crips and Tookie give Mrs. JDB 8 inches of black love up her rectum. I bet your daughter would enjoy 6 or 8 of Tookie’s Democrat Crip buddies giving her some more of the same!!! JDB, you must respect their “Democrat” culture and “understand” their rage. Maybe after they finish with your wife and daughter they will “enjoy” you. Black Democrats at play, and not a Republican around for miles!!!Later you can blame your AIDs/HIV on Bush, Newt, or Ronald Reagan. Regardless, Have a great evening!!
Stop the presses. On every street corner I see gays trying to marry and burn flags all at the same time. It’s going on everywhere. In fact all baseball games have been suspended. No one is reporting to work. All schools have closed so that all these gay flag burners could get busy and get weddddded.
I guess that’s why we need a Constitutional Amendment. Since there are so many trying this on every street corner we must put a stop to it…. RIGHT?
Actually Chuck the passage you reference doesn’t say one word about gay “marraige”
Commentby LeftTurn [……………………………………………………………..Please, Left Turn, FINISH THIRD GRADE!!!!]
Does this mean the Bush Twins won’t be able to attend lez fests with DICKLESS Cheney’s lezbo daughter now?
How many times have those drunken slut daughters of Baby Bush been arrested anyway? I’ve lost track!
RightEqualsStupid, Wasn’t Al Gore’s kid caught doing 90 in a 55 zone with dope in the car?? The Bush kids had a drink in a bar by UT [University of Texas] when they were 20. So what? They are hot!! The Carter kid and the Clinton kid are dogs. And the Gore kid is a doper. Kind of like the Kennedy kids.
Why do gay male Democrats like to fuck each other up their rectums? Should this give them special rights? Is this Bush’s fault? Newt’s? Reagan’s? Left Turn, please explain!!!
Left Turn, How do gay male Democrats decide which “partner” cornholes the other? Tell me, Left Turn.
ALABAMA DEMOCRAT PRIMARY — SIEG HEIL MAN DOING BETTER THAN SIEGELMAN
In the Alabama Democrat primary for Attorney General, with 37% of precincts reporting, Holocaust denier and atheism activist Larry Darby is polling 46% of the vote.
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/.....e=dateline
However, in the Alabama Democrat primary for Governor, indicted former Governor Don Siegelman, who spent election day being tried in federal court, only was polling 35% of the vote, with 32% of precincts reporting.
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/...../606060768
RightEqualsStupid, Wasn’t Al Gore’s kid caught doing 90 in a 55 zone with dope in the car?? The Bush kids had a drink in a bar by UT [University of Texas] when they were 20. So what? They are hot!! The Carter kid and the Clinton kid are dogs. And the Gore kid is a doper. Kind of like the Kennedy kids.
Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 6/6/06@ 8:11 pm
Ah take it easy on the donks. They are just pissed they’re stuck with hairy legged, clipped haired cranola bithes. Can you blame em.
Calif. Dem Francine Busby: Illegals Can Vote
California Democratic congressional candidate Francine Busby was caught on tape Thursday night exhorting illegal aliens in Escondido to vote for her in the race to fill the seat vacated by Randy “Duke” Cunningham.
Busby was speaking to a group of about 50 people gathered at the city’s Jocelyn Senior Center.
According to the San Diego Union Tribune, many in the audience were Latinos who couldn’t speak English. Toward the end of the meeting, a man asked in Spanish: “I want to help, but I don’t have papers.”
“It was translated “I want to vote for you but I’am an illegal alien”, and Busby replied: ‘Everybody can help, yeah, absolutely, you can all help. You don’t need papers for voting, you don’t need to be a registered voter to help.’”
The explosive recording, which was given prominent play Friday on Roger Hedgecock’s San Diego radio show, is said to have “jolted” Busby’s campaign – in a race that Democrats had been hailing as a harbinger of party-wide victory in November.
For her part Busby insists that she misspoke – and meant to use sign language.
“I was clarifying the question that was being asked in Spanish and then stated that you do not have to be a registered voter to help the campaign because there were many people who appeared to be illegal democratic voters… ah I mean to be under 18 in the group who wanted to volunteer,” she explained.
Yep, dems getting a head start on the fraudulent vote for 2006. Hehe
Rancho Santa Fe, Calif. — A former Republican congressman led in early results Tuesday in a solid GOP district where Democrats hoped to capitalize on a GOP corruption scandal and capture the House seat once held by Randy “Duke” Cunningham.
The costly and contentious race between Republican Brian Bilbray and Democrat Francine Busby, a local school board member who ran against Cunningham in 2004, was closely watched as a possible early barometer of next fall’s vote.
With 11 percent of precincts reporting in absentee voting, Bilbray led with 20,448 votes or 51 percent, followed by Busby with 17,329 votes or 43 percent.
Question for the donks. If the gay marriage amendment has no chance to pass in the Senate why are you so upset about Bush brinng this up. You donks do have 2006 locked up right? Don’t you want his agenda to go down in flames? Why are you afraid of debating gay marriage? Why are you scared?
84, cont………Election Update………22 million votes for the Democrat from Mexico City has just tightened up this race!!!!
@6,
“The biggots look like IMPOTENT fools tonight.”
As opposed to those that cannot spell “bigots” who just look like ignorant fools.
Christman Cunt has the gall to talk about spelling when “she” can’t even find the shift key on her keyboard.
@39,
“we do not give tax cuts to billionares, and we pay for public projects that benifit evrybody, and not just the 1/100th.”
Bullshit! Liberals were the reason Safeco was built (D Gov Mike Lowry) for the uber rich sports teams and then after that public rape they came back to do it again with the Seahawks stadium (D- Gov Gary Locke). Then the ‘progressives’ who are for the ‘common man’ sure found Bill Gates to be their buddy when they (D – greg Nickels) gave away valuable downtown real estate to Gates at far below market value. Then of course we have Paul Allen’s trolley on the lake, yet another gift from ‘progressives’.
The problem with you liberals is that you have been high for so long on your drugs, you begin to believe your own propaganda.
So what, I think most thought the whole idea was a dud, but Goldy, really, “a lying sack of shit?” That is the pot calling the kettle queer if you ask me.
Oh and Davey-
What’s with the “Dates for Democrats” thing? It appears you and your pals jaxoff, rabid, tree fucker, etc are getting desparate.
It’s a great day for the left in Washington and the righties got their ass kicked. What more can you ask for? I love watching the right try to spin, lie, deflect and cry when they looooooose.
I’m gonna celebrate. I got a republican kid working for me who’m I plan to fire in the morning, just for the Hell of it. And since he’s an “at-will” employee, there’s nothing he can do about it. Then I plan to give $50 to NARAL in Puddybutt’s name. It’s gonna be another great day!
RightEqualsStupid @77
So Eyman fails at the initiative, and this makes you think of the Bush twins as drunken lesbians…..
How friggin wierd is that.
Sheesh.
Left Turn is a liar. As most, he actually works for and is dependant upon the largesse of a Conservative. Tomorrow he gets fired for sucking Rabid off in the office mens room. Why DO you spend so much time in there, anyway, Lefty.
I got a republican kid working for me who’m I plan to fire in the morning, just for the Hell of it. And since he’s an “at-will” employee, there’s nothing he can do about it.
Commentby LeftTurn— 6/6/06@ 10:26 pm
He can say that his termination had something or another to do with sexual orientation. HB 2661 will be effective at 12:01 a.m. 06/07/2006 and he can sue your ass off over this.
U.S. Rep. 50th Count:24%
Brian Bilbray 50.02%
Francine Busby 44.05%
[………………………………………………………………………………….Left Turn…………………..Fuck you!! Another Republican victory!!!!]
Left wing state primary results:
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections.htm
Special General Election – June 6, 2006
Official Canvass
United States Representative District 50
As of June 6, 2006 at 9:44 p.m.
Paul King Libertarian 792 1.96%
Brian P. Bilbray Republican 20,448 50.60%
Francine Busby Democratic 17,329 42.88%
William Griffith Independent 1,846 4.57%
This district is entirely contained within San Diego County.
*Vacancy resulting from the resignation of Randy “Duke” Cunningham.
Special General Election – June 6, 2006
Official Canvass
Senate District 35
As of June 6, 2006 at 8:00 p.m.
Tom Harman Republican 42,049 70.88%
Larry Caballero Democratic 17,276 29.12%
Left Turn…………..You lose!!! Fuck you, JCH
There is a God. There is also a state senate GOP so far gone that only one of them voted to ban discrimination in our state based on sexual orientation. Only one! And he’s quitting. Tim Eyman remains an idiotic nightmare but he’s losing his luster in terms of being effective. It is the state senate GOP that’s the real problem – its captive to a very few evangelical ministers and a few leaders of the Catholic church who fought to uphold discrimination of gay people for almost 30 years.
“Our fearless leader Nick tells me that Matt Weinstein from “Washington Won’t Discriminate” and Lisa Noble-Rennick from the “Northwest Energy Coalition” will be stopping by to talk about their ballot initiative campaigns. Also, today is primary day in several states and we’ll be eagerly watching the returns roll in… especially those from the special election in CA-50 to replace the convicted Duke Cunningham.” Goldysteinberg […………….Goldysteinberg, This one must be tough to take by you liberal “progressives”]
So… like… wasn’t that California special election supposed to be a referundum and reflection on the national GOP and the upcoming November elections….
Brian P. Bilbray Republican 50.60%
Tom Harman Republican 70.88%
howcanyoube, I’m not sure but I think Tom Harman may be a dem pretending to be a republican. You might ask around.
101, PTBAA……Why, yes, I think it was!!! Left Turn, Goldysteinberg, GBS, and other liberal “progressive” Democrat commies, Looks like another Republican victory!!!!
But California’s special election drew particular attention, largely because polls showed Democrat Francine Busby with significant support against Republican former Rep. Brian Bilbray.
With national polls showing deep dissatisfaction with Congress, President Bush and the war in Iraq, Democrats hoped to score a victory and build momentum for the fall midterm elections.
So, how’s that working out for you so far….
Brian P. Bilbray Republican 50.60%
Francine Busby Democratic 42.88%
Tom Harman Republican 70.88%
Larry Caballero Democratic 29.12%
17, cont…….Swallow every drop from the Democrat Black Crips and their leader, Democrat Tookie Williams, JDB. Be sensitive and caring for Democrat “culture”!!
Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 6/6/06@ 6:12 pm
John Wayne Gacy
John Gotti
Ted Bundy
What do these guys have in common?
THEY ARE/WERE FUCKING REPUBLICANS!
dumbass bitch. you just got smacked
Golly, where’s Mark the Redneck? He said that Eyman had the signatures, was he wrong?
By the way for you extreme idiots who supported Timmy, let me ask you this. Since you’re cloaking your homophobia in Biblical terms, claiming some spiritual basis for this initiative, when will we see you send an initiative to Olympia requesting that the Legislature outlaw divorce? Jesus actually spoke against that six times where he said not one word about gat marraige!!! Hypocrites.
Commentby LeftTurn— 6/6/06@ 7:42 pm
Ahhh yes LeftTurd, the one who swore at God last week. Let’s talk about “gat” marriage! Clarification: If you read your Bible, you would have known Jesus came to fulfill all things.
“A man should not lie with a man as he lies with a woman. It is an abomination.” Leviticus 18:22
“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” Leviticus 20:13.
“The soul that sinneth [transgresseth the law] it shall die.” Ezek. 18:4.
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets; I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.” Matthew 5:17.
“Verily I say unto you,–Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled.” Matt. 5:18.
“Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of Heaven.” Matt. 5:19.
“I and my Father are one,” John 10:30.
“If ye love me, keep my commandments.” John 14:15
God gave the Commandments and the laws, and Jesus said He came to fulfill all things. So if the law was given to Moses and Jesus came to fulfill the law LeftTurd, your worthless point is…
If you had an excellence aura around you these things would have been known. Instead you have a dopey aura. A leftist pinhead aura. A Northwest Division of Lunatic Moonbats aura. Let me help you on your excellence quest! http://quotations.about.com/cs.....lence1.htm
Nuff SAID!!!
Tell me again, Puddybud, the age of the earth.
@ 107
Oh, so you can selectively choose bible quotes to support your bigotry. I’m suprised you can even read. Try not to drool on your keyboard too much asshat – unless you have a mac – I hear they have plastic shields for morons like you.
@ 104
screw the polls. Time will tell. *Yawn*
if you bothered to learn anything from history, you’ll realize we won’t have a republican in the oval office for at LEAST another 4 years come 2008.
I’m not worried.
Schizo boy: They were not selective. Left Turd said Jesus didn’t speak about gay marriage. I say because He didn’t have to. His Father already did! He came to fulfill!
here’s some scripture you and your sanctimonious, hypocritical ilk should try to live by puddy:
Matthew 25:31-46 ( The Last Judgement)
you people are so obtuse you make my head hurt.
in case you are too lazy to look it up:
31 “When the son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats, 33 and he wiil place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. 34 Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come O blessed of my father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the word; 35 for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? 39 And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee? 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ 41 Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they will also answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’ 45 Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ 46 And they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
DAMN
JESUS WAS A FLAMING LIBERAL.
HAH
Don’t try to spar with me boy. On intellectual terms, you’re dangerously outclassed.
I hope you have the attention span to take all of that in.
does anyone else notice that these thugs only take bits and pieces of scripture from various bits of the bible, while ignoring the overall message?
Here comes the clue train, last stop YOU! It’s all about context.
Puddy, are you willfully stupid or just ignorant?
JCH — got a question for ya, good buddy: Why do you hate Joe Paterno? Winning isn’t everything, you know — it’s how you play the game. http://www.post-gazette.com/sp.....1psuqa.asp
When hell is full, zombie republicans will roam the earth.
Maybe republicans shouldn’t be allowed to marry, rent, or take out loans. After all, they do not follow the teachings of jesus. Just like all of those gosh darn hom-ee-secks-uals
Jesus said, “Why do you wash the outside of the cup? Don’t you understand that the one who made the inside is also the one who made the outside?”
This Month’s Important Magazine Articles
Here is some brain food for my liberal friends — trolls are welcome to read these articles, too.
Atlantic Monthly – June 2006 – “The Day After Roe”
Jeffrey Rosen, a law professor at Georgetown University, takes a run at figuring out what America’s political landscape would look like in the aftermath of a Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade. He reaches the same conclusion I’ve been posting on HorsesAss for months: The immediate result would be that all 50 state legislatures would become embroiled in abortion battles that would interfere with getting other important legislative business done.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200606/roe (note: the magazine’s web site doesn’t give non-subscribers access to the entire article, so if you want to read it, you’ll have to find the magazine on a newsstand)
Harper’s – June 2006 – “Stabbed in the Back! The past and future of a right-wing myth” by Kevin Baker – this article, also not available on-line, discusses how right-wingers will play the blame game in the aftermath of defeat in Iraq.
[JCH]
Wow, live you alone for a few hours, and all you do is talk about butt sex. What’s wrong, to eymaned out to go out and turn tricks tonight? Or is the Crackerjack suit at the cleaners so you can’t play sailor.., oops, I mean, claim you are in the navy tonight?
So, did you just drink some cheap vodka and dream of having a big black man dominate you? It does seem to be all you can talk about tonight.
Oh, and by the way:
Tom Delay (R)
Bob Ney (R)
Conrad Burns (R)
and the list goes on and on and on…. Heck most of the GOP leadership in the house is implicated with Abramoff. Sucks to be you…, oh wait, that how you make your living, isn’t it.
Jesus handed puddy his ass with all the trimmings. And he probably doesn’t even realize it!
Go Jesus!
Now he’s coming in and hijacking issues and shoving his way into an issue because it’s become a business for him. It’s how he gets paid,” said Chris Vance, former chairman of the state Republican Party and now a consultant with The Gallatin Group in Seattle.
First of all Vance, you are one to talk after you drove the GOP in the ground by giving in to the far right.
Second, if he is hijaking them, it is your and the GOP’s fault for not leading. If you really believed in this issue, why didn’t you go out and lead on it?
Of course, you knew that while there might be about 20,000 homophobes in WA, there are not a majority, and if you actually lead on this, you would have just driven your party further down into loser-ville.
But hey, wingnuts like JCH and Mark the Yellowback are already there, so you will keep at least a few of your voters.
I’m sure that of those 20,000 or so homophobes in WA, all of the marginally literal ones post on this blog.
Rep Pat Kennedy @ 69……Left Turn, This “Gay Rights” issue seems very important to you. Do you like being fucked up the ass by fellow black and Jewish Democrats??
Commentby REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX]— 6/6/06@ 8:00 pm
I am not sure where you learned that bigotry was OK. Was it your parents late at night in the trailer? I know you that you set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public, but please, have some pride man.
We all know that you think you are funny. Here is a news flash for you, YOU AREN”T. We all know that you think you are annoying the people who come here to voice legitimate opinions. You are not succeeding in doing anything other than (I love this line, my wife taught it to me) showing the world your ass.
It is painfully apparent to everyone here that you incapable of forming either a cogent thought or an original idea. It is time for you go back home to the trailer park. There you can while away the days waiting for the rest of your teeth to fall out of what will then be your totally empty head.
Oh you are lucky, my wife, Mrs My Left Foot, wishes to address you.
As a southern born Baptist woman, a Democrat, earning a six figure (to the left of the decimal point) income who is married to a Jewish man, I take considerable offense to your statement at post 69. You are ignorant and rude. You are a shining example of why the left is losing ground ground. Now, to use the words of my husband (and I hate this when he posts it here, but it is so appropriate at this time) GO FUCK YOURSELF. I am certain it is the only action you are going to get in your sad, lonely, bitter life. Mrs. My Left Foot
Well, I am sure you will shoot back with whore, slut, Tookie Williams love and other various and sundry comments.
s/literal/literate
i should go to bed now.
By the way:
NOT IMMEDIATELY OBVIOUS
Many Christians wonder what the fuss is all about, why this issue is not settled quickly, since the Bible is so clear on the subject. It’s obvious homosexual behavior is wrong. Because, simply, the Bible says it is!
However, other Christians make a case that the Bible does not condemn all homosexual practice. The passages which mention same-sex relations are not as straightforward as they appear:
Leviticus 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
These passages are found in what is commonly called the Holiness Code (Leviticus 17-26) and may refer to ritual impurity (uncleanness) rather than immorality. In other words, same-sex relations might not be “sin” but “impurity”–like eating bacon. If so, they are irrelevant to us, for the Gospel releases Christians from this part of the Jewish law.
1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders [arsenokoitai] 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Timothy 1:9 We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10for adulterers and perverts [arsenokoitais], for slave traders and liars and perjurers…
The Greek word often translated as referring to homosexual practice is unclear. It does not occur in any literature prior to the New Testament, and does not occur again for 200 years. It possibly describes and forbids only pederasty or same-sex prostitution–not the kind of homosexual behavior which gay Christians try to defend.
Romans 1:26-27 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural [para physin] ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
This passage may refer solely to heterosexual people who engage in homosexual acts. (Evidence that Paul is talking about heterosexual persons: he says these persons abandoned their “natural relations.” That is, they knew and experienced heterosexual affections but abandoned them.) As such, the passage does not condemn those who are homosexual by nature, but only individual heterosexuals who occasionally deny their own “natures” by performing homosexual acts.
Or perhaps these explicit remarks on homosexuality apply only to some forms of same-sex relationships. For instance, Paul may not have had in mind loving, committed same-sex relationships — he may have known only of abusive, promiscuous, and/or cultic homosexuality. If so, no wonder he spoke against it!
Other persons point out that the downward spiral of behavior depicted in Romans 1:18-32 does not appear to describe the gays and lesbians in our congregations. Some are good people with strong Christian ministry.
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Bottom line – Go fuck yourselves. =)
There’s lots of other good stuff in Harper’s, too. Here is a selection of materials that ARE available on-line:
Debunking bunker-busters: Why bunker buster nuclear weapons don’t work http://www.harpers.org/BuriedTruths.html
Cheap oil, the only oil that matters, is nearly gone … “oil discovery peaked in 1964. Since then the volume of newly discovered oil … has on average steadily fallen each year … last year … oil companies were able to discover … less than one new barrel for every three consumed.” http://www.harpers.org/LastStopGas.html
The U.S. economy is headed for a shipwreck of Titanic proportions. http://www.harpers.org/TheIcebergCometh.html
Is there a case for impeachment? http://www.harpers.org/IsThere.....hment.html
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Isn’t it interesting that the Bible addresses homosexuality. That means homosexual behavior was occurring 2,000 years ago. Scientists tell us homosexual behavior also occurs in the animal kingdom among numerous species. So what does all of this imply? It strongly implies that homosexuality is a biological phenomenon, not a “lifestyle choice,” that’s what.
RR,
of course it was – it was very common and widely accepted in ancient greek culture, which is part of the reason leviticus speaks against it (if I remember my history correctly) – many of those rules were created to keep the christians “pure” in the face of a much larger overwhelmingly pagan culture. Obviously though, christians are the dominant culture in this country’s society, so one must wonder how relevant this stuff is today in the US
Regards.
of course, that take kind of undercuts your biological phenomenon argument, depending on how it is interpreted. However, I do agree with that theory.
Regards.
in regards to http://www.harpers.org/IsThere.....hment.html
thanks for the link. it’s a good read.
heh- you mentioned animal homosexuality and I immediately thought of santorum. =P
John Wayne Gacy …
What do these guys have in common?
THEY ARE/WERE FUCKING REPUBLICANS!
Commentby Schizophonic (D. John)— 6/6/06@ 11:26 pm
SORRY — JOHN WAYNE GACY WAS AN INFLUENTIAL DEMOCRAT:
In 1971, he bought a house in an unincorporated area surrounded by the Chicago neighborhood of Norwood Park, lived there with his widowed mother and established his own construction business, PDM Contracting. He married a woman he had known since high school, and she and her two daughters moved in with him, and his mother moved out. He became a prominent and respected member of the community. In addition to his clown act, he became a committee member for the Democratic Party. In this capacity, he was even able to meet and be photographed with future-First Lady Rosalynn Carter[1].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy
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Where ya been, Chuck? Just get out of jail? We missed ya.
oops… must have got him confused with some other serial-murdering republican…
like 95% of the most ruthless mobsters out there, for example
“Now he’s coming in and hijacking issues and shoving his way into an issue because it’s become a business for him. It’s how he gets paid,” said Chris Vance, former chairman of the state Republican Party and now a consultant with The Gallatin Group in Seattle.”
Second, if he is hijaking them, it is your and the GOP’s fault for not leading. If you really believed in this issue, why didn’t you go out and lead on it?
Commentby JDB— 6/7/06@ 12:40 am
I will agree strongly with that part of your analysis. If the GOP leadership and those pastors had really believed in this issue, and had the courage of their convictions, they really could have organized their own referendum effort and qualified R-65 for the ballot. Instead, they left it to the (L)Eyman — a fellow with no courage and no convictions.
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“of course, that take kind of undercuts your biological phenomenon argument”
How do you figure that? When homosexuality occurs in the animal kingdom, and for thousands of years of human history across national, language, and cultural boundaries — how can you maintain that it’s a “lifestyle choice?”
but i guess sociopaths need their own political party, too…
@ 139, i was playing devils advocate. what i meant is that ancient greece was very hedonistic by judeo-christian standards and people were freely engaging in all kinds of stuff with no social consequences.. biology may or may not have been a factor (though personally i do believe many, if not most homosexuals are born that way) i wasn’t refering to the animal stuff at all…
rr,
for the record, i agree with you wholeheartedly – i was just saying that some people may not see the 2000yo factor as proof that homosexuality is a biological phenomenon…
or for another serial killer “family values” type asshat:
herb baumeister
http://www.crimelibrary.com/se.....ide_1.html
but I digress
CALIFORNIA RACE “TOO CLOSE TO CALL”
An Associated Press story filed at 1:23 a.m. says the Busby-Bilbray race is too close to call.
Special General Election – June 6, 2006
Official Canvass
United States Representative District 50
As of June 7, 2006 at 12:18 a.m.
Precincts Reporting 59.4% (297 of 500)
Registered Voters 355,409
Ballots Cast 85,564
Turnout 24.07%
Candidate Party Votes Percent
Paul King Libertarian 1353 1.63%
Brian P. Bilbray Republican 41,230 49.59%
Francine Busby Democratic 37,379 44.96%
William Griffith Independent 3,178 3.82%
This district is entirely contained within San Diego County.
*Vacancy resulting from the resignation of Randy “Duke” Cunningham.
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections.....esults.htm
“With 78 percent of precincts reporting, Republican Brian Bilbray was ahead with 50,284 votes, or 50 percent, to Democrat Francine Busby’s 45,649 votes, or 45 percent.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....0bQ–
In Alabama, Gov. Bob Riley easily defeated ex-judge Roy Moore in the GOP primary.
Schizo: I am not afraid to spar with you, oh ye of little faith.
If Jesus was a LIBRUL as you say why did He condemn the pharisees for acting like libruls? I’ll take your answer off the ASSHeads!
RPope: THe loony librul newspapers called it a dead heat! Looks like librul thought ain’t so good!!!
Regarding San Diego – on the contrary – WE WIN. The GOP had to spend nearly 5 million dollars to defend a seat they’ve never lost. The Dekester, who now sucks big dick daily in the prison, won his last race by 20 points spending less than one million. His replacement (might) have won by three points spending five times the money. The GOP had to mobilize every asset they have to win a seat they’ve never lost. The fact that a Dem got to nearly 50% in a district that has NEVER voted for a Democrat scared the few non-inbred republicans that understand what a warning sign that is. In a district that has three republican registrants for every two Dems, you’re SUPPOSED to win. The fact that you almost didn’t – well trust me – that’s a huge victory for freedom and who knows, maybe some other race you need elsewhere will go down because you spent money in a place you’ve never had to.
And there were some very bright spots last night including the CRUSHING defeat of that Taliban wannabe Judge Roy Moore who got 10% of the vote.
I notice “Johnny-Cakes” JCH is not so proud of his little initials these days – but still spends a LOT of time talking about black men’s penises.
I wonder – is it because he thinks about black men’s penises a lot?
Well, let’s examine this:
The people I have known who think about black men’s penises enough to mention them in their everyday speech are
1) Black women who like to have sex with black men.
2) White and other women who like to have sex with black men.
3) Gay men who like to have sex with black men.
No why would a purportedly heterosexual man like “Johnny-Cakes” JCH talk abou tblack men’s penises if he did NOT want to have sex with black men????
Hmmm…..
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…Still thinking…..
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No, there really is no reason. True to his moniker, “Johnny-Cakes” JCH is gay. It’s just that simple.
I’m sorry for the gay community that they should have to claim such a disgusting, closeted parasite as one of their number, but accidents happen.
And Richarp Pope? You better shut the fuck up about homosexuality before you REALLY embarrass yourself. Word to the wise, pal, just a word to the wise.
I seriously believe that we haven’t seen the last of I-Man, but any defeat against him is a victory for the citizens of Washington state.
Puddy,
go make me a sandwich, you little bitch
Busby lost in what should have been a slam dunk. This is just another failure in a growing list of failures for Democrats.
PBJ – I don’t think I need to remind you of the numerous catastrophic failures of republicans – especially lately.
Republicans say big government doesn’t work – then they get elected and prove it.
@ 149,
quote some scripture
for any 3 words you can find in the old testament that condemn the liberal mentality, I can find 3 paragraphs in the new testament that condemn you and your ilk.
I believe it was Oscar Wilde who said (paraphrased) “I’d take heaven for the climate, or hell for the company”, but with so many rethugs behind the fiery gates I’ll take my chances with purgatory. Too bad I’m not a Catholic.
Heh
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“Busby lost in what should have been a slam dunk. This is just another failure in a growing list of failures for Democrats.” Commentby PBJ_returns— 6/7/06@ 9:40 am
How do you figure? Bilbray barely squeaked through in a solidly Republican district that should have been a slam-dunk for the GOP. You guys are hurting — you can’t even get Republicans to vote for you anymore.
Rabbit Pellet, yeah right. The news papers were calling it a dead heat. Yeah right, even with their cheerleading and wonderful positive stories on her, she still LOST! Sis & Bro-in-law are retired navy. This was watched closely. See ya!
delicately,Beebe:theater minter oversights circulated administers!brief