It was a special, bipartisan edition of Drinking Liberally last night, as we welcomed King County Journal reporter and self-described righty Don Ward to the podcast. Don comments as "Reporterward" (get it?) on HorsesAss.org and (un)Sound Politics, and happily reports that none of us liberals smell. Well… except for Will.
Joining me, Don and Will in our weekly game of "Left, Right and Joel" were Mollie, Carl, and Seattle P-I columnist Joel Connelly, who has lost his designation as a "special guest" by pretty much becoming a regular. Topics of discussion included Bush’s plan to demilitarize our borders by sending troops there, what’s the matter with Spokane, vote-by-mail, and the blog wars.
The show is 58:20, and is available here as a 36.7 MB MP3. Please visit PodcastingLiberally.com for complete archives and RSS feeds.
[Recorded live at the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally. Special thanks to Confab creators Gavin and Richard for producing the show.]
Reporterward spews:
I wouldn’t put me down as a reference, Goldy, for the smell thing just yet. Thanks to childhood allergies, I’ve only got about 10 percent capacity in the olfactory category. Thought you should know…
Thanks to the entire podcastin’ crew for the invitation. It’s a fascinating technology.
Sadly, the Montlake Canteena scene doesn’t serve hard pear cider, thus putting a damper on an otherwise pleasant Tuesday.
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO spews:
The disappointing lack of Hurtado Tequila keeps me away from the alehouse and the lack of a yard of ale, which I require for my drinking satisfaction.
A shot of Hurtado and a yard of ale is all I need to prepare me for a night of political discussion.
The lack of “hard pear cider” seems like the pretentions of a man who only THINKS he is a man of the world. It also sounds a little effeminate — no offense to the Fab Five!!!
For the Clueless spews:
What really offends me about these wingers from (un)SP is how far “left” they think liberal HA.org readers are. There’s absolutely zilch discussion about Marxism or “revolution” or any of that claptrap here or on any other liberal WA state blog.
Here’s what I want out of the government:
1) a moderately higher priority for k-12 education so teachers don’t leave the profession and kids have safe cheery enviroments to feel safe to learn in. A little more funding for community colleges would be great too.
2) An income tax and business tax reform so that sales taxes can be lowered, property taxes can be lowered and a rainy day fund can be maintained. In short, make the constant dysfunctional turmoil of funding the state government a thing of the past.
3) Secure funding of infrastructure improvement and maintenance so business can function and we can maintain an adequate economy here.
4) Growth and environmental regulations that preserve what’s special about this place. Something I thought most people valued here. People who want what’s happened to Southern California should try their shtick somewhere else.
Now what’s so freaking Marxist about that?
Hats off to Reporterward for venturing outside his bubble but after reading his offensive comments both here and at soundpolitics I await the hard-hitting, career-making expose on the “hard left” cabal at Montlake.
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
Wisdom: “‘What shall we do with the Negro?’ I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are wormeaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! I am not for tying or fastening them on the tree in any way, except by nature’s plan, and if they will not stay there, let them fall. And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone!”
~~ Frederick Douglass [……………………………………………………………………..I thought you dumb ass libs would enjot this quote!!!]
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
WASHINGTON — The Senate unanimously approved an amendment Wednesday to its immigration reform bill that says legal or illegal immigrants who are convicted of a felon or three misdemeanors unrelated to their residency status will be deported immediately. Those convicted will be permanently barred from the guest worker program or any chance of getting on a path to U.S. citizenship. [………………………….This is a direct assault on new Democrat voters!!!!!!! Jesse!!!! Jesse Jacksoooooooooooooooooooooooon will not be happy!!!!!!]
BOB from BOEING spews:
5
A LITTLE EFFEMINATE TO WANT HARD PEAR CIDER —- HELL, I AM A ROARING FAG, AND THAT WOULD CAUSE A SNICKER IN ANY– REPEAT ANY – GAY BAR IN THE WORLD.
PERVERTED DRINKING HABITS – AND WHAT WOULD THE BUZZ DELIVER TO YOUR SEX LIFE?
Anonymous spews:
I have a simple dream: When JCH is arrested and convicted for tax evasion, that his cellmate is a large, black, but surprisingly gentle man named Precious.
Horseofanothercolor spews:
JCH @ 4&5
Thanks for reminding us that birth control among the racist nazi fucks in this world needs to be rigorously enforced.
Your posts here make David Duke & the KKK proud.
You’re a constant reminder that Americans need to be diligent against pathetic lowlife scumbags such as yourself.
Everyone in this country is an emigrant, except those that were here before the white man stole this country from its aboriginal inhabitants.
For the Clueless spews:
This guy’s a little wet behind the ears:
I’m always amazed at the amount of time wasted on discussing the ranting of an irrelevant failure and what he does on his blog.
Posted by: Reporterward on January 23, 2006 12:38 PM
Indeed why can’t Stefan Minnow just “rise above it all”. Talk about lofty conservative ideals. Stuff like that..
Unless of course I’m mistaken and Don Ward was referring to Stefan.
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
A laborer who raped and murdered a suburban homemaker in her bedroom after being hired to clean a backyard deck was sentenced Monday to life in prison without the chance of parole.
The sentencing came on what would have been the 13th wedding anniversary of the victim, Mary Nagle, and her husband, Daniel.
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO “beat, cut, raped, sodomized and strangled the greatest love of my life and the mother of my two children,” Daniel Nagle told the judge at the hearing.
Nagle said he and his children had visited Mary Nagle’s grave on Mother’s Day. He told the judge his 7-year-old son, Chris, asked: “Will we ever be OK? Will we ever be normal? Will we learn to live with only the three of us?”
State Supreme Court Justice William Kelly sentenced to life without parole plus 124 years, saying he wanted to guarantee that GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO “will never have the chance” to commit another crime.
The April 2005 slaying of the 42-year-old mother drew wide attention because the attacker allegedly used her cell phone afterward to brag about the crime to her relatives. Five women said they received calls from a man with a Spanish accent who spoke lewdly about what had happened to Mary Nagle.
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO, 30, a Guatemalan immigrant whose visa expired five years ago, had Mary Nagle’s cell phone with him when he was arrested. He was convicted last month of rape and first-degree murder.
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO was working for a house-painting contractor and had been assigned to power-wash the Nagles’ backyard deck. He testified that he had partied on beer and cocaine the night before and did not remember entering the house or killing the woman. However, he said, he did recall waking up next to her bloody body. […………………………………Just another “New Democrat doing the work that Democrats on welfare and food stamps refuse to do!]
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
Horseofanothercolor, Perhpas some of these 24 million illegals could come and live at your house??
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
Horseofanothercolor, Do you find Frederick Douglass’ words offensive? Yes, as a dumb ass liberal Democrat, I’ll bet you do!!!!
Horseofanothercolor spews:
Where do you get 24 million?
Last I heard, it was 11, or is this just another example of Refucklicans fuzzy math.
And no, Frederick Douglas’ words aren’t offensive, you are,you nazi POS
GBS spews:
Horse of another color @ 13:
You’ve no doubt figured this out by now, but, JCH is a know habitual liar.
Let’s just say honesty is not JCH’s strong suit. Like most conservatives.
GBS spews:
Horse of another color:
Did you know JCH lied about his supposed “military service?”
GBS spews:
JCH doesn’t like when I do this, but. . . here it goes again.
GBS spews:
How to catch a Conservative in the act of lying:
Note the date/time stamps.
http://www.horsesass.org/index.php?p=1332
108, Libertarian, I never attended flight school. Hence, I never “washed out”. All a figment of GBS’s vivid “imagination”. All my training was done in Newport, RI and Coronado, Ca, as well as the old Philadelphia Ship Yard. Then, three WESTPACs of 6 monthe each , one ten month IO cruise, and a tour in Coronado at the NAB. Four years at sea, and two ashore.
Comment by Myron [JCH] Silverstein, ESQ— 2/24/06 @ 3:04 pm
@ 123
JCH: Are you saying GWB served in combat then? Just askin’
Comment by windie — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [No, but, Windie, have YOU ever “buckled up” in a Mach 2 F-106? Not for pussies. I washed out of Naval Air [bad GI] and served Surface Line [1110]. Flying [and training] in military jets are not for the Bill Clintons of the world.]
Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:37 pm
@ 125
FLY NAVY
DA WO
Comment by YO — 1/24/06 @ 3:59 pm [YO, I’m sure you are correct and I was mistaken. Thanks for the help. Anyone who flies has my respect. I was not up to the stress. Not many are. JCH, LT, USN [1110, 76-84]]
Comment by JCH — 1/24/06 @ 4:44 pm
@ 152
clay shaw spews:
re 4: “Leave him alone….” means do no sneaky or not so sneaky damage under the table and behind his back and refuse to help. Like purging 94,000 black voters , all but about 1,000 of which were legal voters, thereby STEALING the presidency and putting a bunch of incompetents in chargeAND conspiring to keep the working man voiceless and powerless by illegally undercutting unions.
You make me sick! If you tried to mouth this swill you’re pushing in front of me , I’d shut your fat mouth for you in a nanosecond.
Reporterward spews:
Wow. Thanks for making a country boy feel all nice and welcome.
Of course, I’d care what a bunch of anonymous posters say were it not for the fact that your opinions and startling lack of humor (do I have to explain the pear cider reference) are worth about as much as the graffiti you’d find at a truckstop choke-and-puke. Actually less, since I guy can get some good anatomy lessons from some of those drawings…
Maybe when your guys’ byline is in a 100,000 newspapers I’ll begin to care what you say. Until then, I’ll leave you folks to your jollies. Don’t have too much fun knocking down those strawmen you’re busy building.
Oh, and to Will, Darrel, Joel, Gavin, Richard, Mollie et al, thanks again for the good time. Regards.
clay shaw spews:
re 10: They should have hired a union man instead of going the Cheap Labor Republican route. You get what you pay for relates to more than luxury automobiles!
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
You make me sick! If you tried to mouth this swill you’re pushing in front of me , I’d shut your fat mouth for you in a nanosecond.
Commentby clay shaw [……………Clay Shaw, FYI, As a Kennedy, I do as I wish. And like I did to the “black bitch” security guard at the LAX airport, I’ll just have to “bitchslap” you!!! Remember, as a Kennedy, you will shut the fuck up and vote for me again! Got it?? Now, I’ve got to run as I’m late for a vote. Piss on you.]
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO “beat, cut, raped, sodomized and strangled the greatest love of my life and the mother of my two children,” Clay Shaw told the judge at the hearing.
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
Where do you get 24 million?
Last I heard, it was 11, or is this just another example of Refucklicans fuzzy math.
And no, Frederick Douglas’ words aren’t offensive, you are,you nazi POS
Commentby Horseofanothercolor [……………………………………………………………………………………………………………24 million illegal aliens[“new Democrats”] over the last 20 years, and another 100 million plus illegal aliens [“New Democrats”] over the next twenty years. AND, They all want to come and live at YOUR house!!!!]
GORDITOS DE LOS ALBERTO spews:
Reporterward: I thought the extent of Republican humour was to yell, “Git ‘er done!” every 12 secends or greet each other with a, “Whazzzzuuuuuuuup??”
“Hard Pear Cider”!!! Indeed! That is so clever and precious — it’s impenetrable….
Horseofanothercolor spews:
@23
I’d take 24 million over just one of you racist nazi POS assholes.
Horseofanothercolor spews:
GBS @ 17
Thanks, I haven’t seen that one reprised for a few days now, so thanks for the reminder that JCH is the POS he puts himself out to be.
GBS spews:
Horseofanothercolor @ 26:
You’re welcome. Roger Rabbit just loves that story and he never gets tired of it.
Personally, I believe it’s my civic duty to counter the lying “deliverance wing” of the republican party whenever they rear their ugly heads.
The only way to combat lying is by telling the TRUTH.
And, the truth about JCH is that he’s a LIAR.
For the Clueless spews:
Maybe when your guys’ byline is in a 100,000 newspapers
Don if you have such high self-regard for yourself, your attained station in life and your life’s mission, what the hell are you doing writing crap on blog comments and injecting yourself at Drinking Liberally’s.
And speaking of choke and puke, say hi to Mr. Cynical and Co. over at (un)SP.
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
In a town of 1,000 people, how hard would it be to find a JCH” And it sounds like the kind of backwater, poverty-stricken place someone like JCH would retire to. [Anonymous, aka Goldysteinberg]
Commentby Anonymous 2/13/06@ 7:23 pm [To find me, look for the NRA sticker on the mailbox. Stand still so I can insure you are in the crosshairs. In addition, Goldysteinberg, try not to end your sentences with prepositions. It illustrates your lack of education.]
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
In a town of 1,000 people, how hard would it be to find a JCH” And it sounds like the kind of backwater, poverty-stricken place someone like JCH would retire to. [Anonymous, aka Goldysteinberg]
Commentby Anonymous 2/13/06@ 7:23 pm [To find me, look for the NRA stickers on the mailbox. Stand still so I can ensure you are in the 30/40 scope crosshairs. In addition, Goldysteinberg, try not to end your sentences with prepositions. It illustrates your lack of education.]
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
SOUTHAMPTON, N.Y. (AP) An Honduran teenager arrested for stealing an anti-immigration protest sign is facing deportation after authorities discovered he was allegedly in the country illegally, authorities said. Joel Martines, 19, was arrested last Thursday after he allegedly stole a sign being carried by an anti-immigration protester outside a 7-11 convenience store, Southampton police said. The site is popular with day laborers, many of whom are suspected of being in the country illegally…
21,000,999 “New Democrats” to go!!
Anonymous spews:
Goldy doesn’t know how to shoulder a Dragunov SVD. However, its POS-1 will more than adequately frame a pos(JCH), even at night, with its integrated infrared detector.
rhp6033 spews:
News Item: Seattle Times, May 16, 2006:
“…the Bush administration says that it’s time to do something about … congestion.
”Congestion is not a fact of life. We need a new approach and we need it now,” said Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta.
Five years ago, Mineta complained that ”congestion and delay not only waste our time as individuals, they also burden our businesses and our entire economy.”
The transportation secretary Tuesday unveiled a strategy to reduce congestion that included privatizing roads, putting tolls on busy roads and designating corridors for development to speed movement of truck and rail freight.”
Administration Now has a “Congestion Strategy”
So, here’s their plan:
(1) “privatizing roads” (i.e., turning public highways, paid with taxpayer dollars, over to private companies to manage for their profit. Anybody want to bet that Halliburton or one of its subsidiaries is designated as the only qualified bidder?).
(2) “putting tolls on busy roads”. In other words, imposing a use tax for the privildge of using a public highway. The rich and large business gets to use the fast highways, everybody else has to use the back roads.
(3) “designating corridors for development to speed movement of truck and rail freight”. In other words, pass legislation to waive environmental or property-right issues so tax money can be used to build new highways and railroads that are unavailable for use by the average citizen or small business. But I doubt any public highways or rail corriders will ever be built, unless they use imminent domain to take the land, allow waivers to ignore environmental laws, and then turn the corridors over to large mega-businesses (like Halliburton) who will agree to “manage” the corridors in return for the development rights along the right-of-way and the right to keep any profits from the venture. Kind of like the proposal the Sonics made to Seattle.
Look, I’m all for increasing investment in our transportation infrastructure. Our existing freeway roadbeds are nearing the end of their usefull life, and we need reconstruction of large stretches of I-5 and bridges around the state. The railways in this country have suffered from lack of attention for far too long. As for commercial airports, we need to find a location to build one in the North Sound region eventually, so we might as well do it now before it becomes a crisis from excess capacity at SeaTac.
But the minute you hear the Republicans of this adminstration refer to the word “privitazation”, you had better put your hand on your wallet, because they are about to take something from you and give it to one of their friends.
klake spews:
Roger and Gang you have a great day now!
Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information you all are wrap up in your own little world………..
It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.
There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!
He was being drilled by a senator; “Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?”
Ollie replied, “Yes, I did, Sir.”
The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, “Isn’t that just a little excessive?”
“No, sir,” continued Ollie.
“No? And why not?” the senator asked.
“Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir.”
“Threatened? By whom?” the senator questioned.
“By a terrorist, sir Ollie answered.
“Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?”
“His name is Osama bin Laden, sir” Ollie replied.
At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn’t pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn’t. A couple of people laughed at the attempt.
Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?” the senator asked.
“Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of”, Ollie answered.
“And what do you recommend we do about him?” asked the senator.
“Well, sir, if it s up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.”
The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.
By the way, that senator was Al Gore! nsp;
Also:
Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called “political prisoners.”
However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, “insisted” that all prisoners be released.
Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.
GBS spews:
Klake, so if I understand correctly, what you’re saying is Al Gore, while he was a junior senator from Tennessee, didn’t know or understand the threat posed by Osama bin Laden but Ollie North did?
Interesting point of view. Especially considering that a junior senator from Tennessee would NOT have had the inherent Constitutional legal authority to order an assassination like only the President of the United States, Ronald Reagan had at the time.
Well, that begs the question as to why Ronald Reagan didn’t take care of, and I quote, “the most evil person alive that I know of”, Ollie answered.”
Well, normally I don’t like going back in time just to assign blame arbitrarily like the way the neocons like to blame all things bad on President Clinton, but you make a valid point regarding the gross dereliction of duty shown by Ronald Reagan and the Republicans in the leadership positions.
No wonder the Iran-Contra operation was botched so badly, it was run by Republicans who never get a fucking thing right.
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
Klake, so if I understand correctly, what you’re saying is Al Gore, while he was a junior senator from Tennessee, didn’t know or understand the threat posed by Osama bin Laden but Ollie North did?
Commentby GBS— 5/17/06@ 3:03 pm [………….[Duh!!! Finally, GBS, you get one right.]
GBS spews:
Shhhh, JCH, the honest adults are talking.
You go sit in your time out corner.
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
I suggest we replace the real security fence around Ted Kennedy’s home estate [The Kennedy Compund] with a virtual fence instead and see if that provides him with the security he needs.
Moose spews:
Klake The Nazi Liar at 35,
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blatta.htm
righton spews:
Are you going to go over the Seattle school boards plan to outlaw “forward thinking” since somehow that is racist?
GBS spews:
JCH @ 39:
I bet the “Duke-ster” wishes he had a virtual fence surrounding his “home estate” so could escape the daily ass banging he’s takin’ from the mulitudes of gentlemen who resemble “Tookie” Williams.
Baaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa
Yeahhhhhh, now that’s funny.
GBS spews:
The Duke, living the most Hellish nightmare imaginable for a racist, neo-conservative, criminal: Getting butt r@ped, vigirously on a daily basis.
Oh, man, I’d pay money, a lot of money, to see the Duke go through one day in PRISON.
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley’s patronage chief sent city employees into the precincts to do the grass-roots job of getting out the vote for Democratic candidates Al Gore, Lisa Madigan, Rahm Emanuel and Daley himself, a government witness testified Wednesday. “We worked during the whole election” when Daley was running for re-election in 1999, former sewer department personnel director Mary Jo Falcon told the trial of onetime patronage chief Robert Sorich and three other former city officials. [………..Gee, what a fucking surprise!! “Guvment” hacks “gettin out da Democrat votes!”]
REP Pat Kennedy [D-Bitchslap the Black Security Guard At LAX] spews:
Wanted : Home and away Duke Lacrosse jerseys
Anonymous spews:
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