On Tuesday the Senate Judiciary Committee heard testimony on SB 6417, “Prohibiting sexual conduct or sexual contact with an animal.”
Yeah, I know… it’s not really all that much of a news story, but hell, why should the Seattle Times get all the traffic from people lasciviously Googling “bestiality,” “perforated colon,” and “sex with horses”…?
Anyway… nobody ever accused the GOP of being soft on mule-shtupping (so to speak,) and so it comes as no surprise that this bill was introduced by longtime animal welfare champion, Sen. Pam Roach, who told the AP:
“If these animals don’t have the cognitive ability to consent, and that’s the case, then we have to be protecting them,” Roach said.
“That’s one of the reasons we protect children; and while this is lower, it will still protect innocence from sex predators.”
Yeah. Sure. Though one could argue that if they don’t have the cognitive ability to consent (and it should be noted that it was the man, not the stallion who ended up with a perforated colon,) then animals really don’t have the cognitive ability to have a sense of innocence either. I do find it somewhat curious that it would violate the innocence of an animal to have sex with it, but apparently not to murder and eat it.
Whatever. Like most people, I’m all for protecting animals from cruelty, be it hunting bears and cougars with bait and dogs, or forced anal intercourse with perverted morons. I suppose that’s why Roach’s bill received such broad bipartisan support.
The quest for animal protection has made for curious partnerships — it’s bringing together Roach, a rural conservative, and animal rights groups around the state.
The Washington Farm Bureau, Washington State Grange and state veterinarians also have backed the bill. Nobody testified against it Tuesday.
Though man… I would have loved to hear the con testimony.
The bill is likely to sail through both houses with no opposition. But if it doesn’t, we can only imagine what kind of postcards the GOP might mail out this time.
W spews:
Somewhere, the HA trolls are crying, as their dreams of goat-fucking fade away.
JCH spews:
If barn yard animal sex is illegal, Don, Mr. X, and Bill could be jailed for life! [But could they still vote Democrat?]
JCH spews:
How many of the fruits at “Drinking Liberally” prefer goats, cows, and sheep to say, actually getting a gal to go on a date? Half? Most? ALL?
JCH spews:
W, Could you explain how AIDS from African monkeys got passed to Democrat fruits and queers in San Francisco? Was George Bush responsible?
W spews:
Why don’t you tell us, JCH? You really came off as a beacon of humanity the last time you brought this one up …
Belltowner spews:
JCH…
Do you like goats too, or do you sticking to fucking 12 year old Japanese tourists?
JCH spews:
Beltowner, Does Goldy get you the “anal Tookie Williams love” than you so enjoy? Do you feel “warm and fulfilled” watching “Bareback Mounting” for the 5th time? [No wonder Ann Coulter thinks liberal Democrat men are pussies!]
W spews:
Is it any surprise that conservatives are the biggest producers and consumers of pornography?
momus spews:
I think it’s great that Pam Roach is protecting the farm animals of this state from the residents of Fremont….
Belltowner spews:
Goldy doesn’t. Tim Eyman does!
W spews:
Where’s Tim Eyman with his initiative to “let the people decide?”
Mount Olympus Hiker spews:
Goldy, PLEASE get rid of JCH. PLEASE! We don’t need this asshole mucking up the HA comment threads. The pixels JCH creates are worthless. His comments are off topic, derogatory, and unneeded. Please ban JCH.
Belltowner spews:
@ 11
To decide what? Whether he’s gay or not?
wes.in.wa spews:
Is Sen. Roach’s bill trying to accomplish what the President was talking about in the SOTU, about banning creation of human-animal hybrids?
Particle Man spews:
So if you scratch your cat on the spine just above the tail and the get gets into it, will this be a crime?
JCH spews:
MOH, This thread is about “animal sex”. My posts are germaine and “on subject”. But yours……?
Belltowner spews:
how many miles per gallon can you get with a human-animal hybrid? More than a Prius?
GBS spews:
JCH:
A Penn State educated dunce; barnyard is one word. Look it up sometime between your bukkakes.
GBS spews:
Turns out the guy from Freemont was a registered Republican!!
Nice! Way to go you morons.
GBS spews:
Ann Coulter is a transvestite. She/he was born Andy Coulter. Sean Hannity had an affair with him/her.
JCH spews:
GBS, You are correct. I would expect you to use the “bardyard” word often with your wife as well as in your family environment.
GBS spews:
Goldy,
Please, please do NOT ban JCH from HA blog. It’s fun to watch the morons on the right flame out and die like:
Mr. Cynical
ChristmasGhost
Rigthon
Puddybud
PacMan
MTR
prr = real loser.
Chuck
pbj
howCanYouBeProudToBeAnAss
yearight
Janet S.
NoWonder
Soon, we’ll add JCH to the list of the Republicans who couldn’t hack the truth any longer and got tired of being punched in their beaks every time a Republican is investigated, indicted or convicted of crimes or destroys our civil liberties.
Sorry, MOH, I know how much you’d like to see JCH gone, but his presence, believe it or not, serves our purposes. There is a difference between being “right” and being accurate. We’re accurate, JCH is, well, not accurate.
GBS spews:
JCH @ 21
You’re the Penn State educated man, did you honestly think I wouldn’t catch your mistake at 21??
Baaa haaa haaaa haaa. Man, you sure wasted your money getting an education at Penn State.
Baaaaa haaaa haaaa. You have a tough time with spelling and grammar don’t you?
Baaaa haaaa haaaa.
Were you actually the fastest and best swimmer out of the millions of sperm cells your daddy shot?
How shallow is your family’s gene pool??
Or, are you some “human-animal hybrid?”
Haaa haaa haaa haaa.
Loser.
GBS spews:
JCH:
What’s a “bardyard?”
Never heard of that word before and I couldn’t find it in my MSN dictionary.
Can you please define the word.
Thanks.
Baaaa haaaa haaaa.
rujax206 spews:
HOW TO BE A GOOD REPUBLICAN
1. You have to believe that the nation’s 8-year prosperity inherited by Bush was due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr., but yesterday’s gasoline prices are still Clinton’s fault.
2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success all on their own.
3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social Security checks on time.
4. You have to believe that AIDS victims deserve their disease, but smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart disease don’t deserve theirs.
5. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a gun.
6. You have to believe everything Rush Limbaugh says.
7. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing and hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor.
8. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the death penalty.
9. You have to believe society is color-blind and growing up black in America doesn’t diminish your opportunities, but you still won’t vote for Alan Keyes.
10. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a profit.
11. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you don’t pray to Allah or Buddha.
12. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really faithful husbands.
13. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you instantly popular in the barrio.
14. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins.
15. You have to be against government interference in business, until your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go broke and you beg for a government bail out.
16. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares your hatred for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton.
17. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing police protection, national defense, and building roads.
18. You have to believe a poor, minority student with a disciplinary history and failing grades will be admitted into an elite private school with a $1,000 voucher.
GBS spews:
JCH:
Barn yard. What a fucking dolt. You embarrass anyone who attended Penn State and Naval officers every where.
It’s not as if you misspelled it once. You did it over and over and over again.
Do compound words perplex you?
Baaaa haaaa haaaaa haaaaa. Hey, isn’t it time for you to get saltwater in your eyes again? Speaking of saltwater, that’s another compound word you misspelled when you said you just got back from your swim and still had salt water in your eyes.
Tell us honestly, how does someone with a college degree have so much trouble with spelling?
JCH are you really Mr. Cynical still living in your mother’s basement, but just using a new pen name.
Hey, how you doin’ Ms Chickenhawk?
You loser.
Ted Smith spews:
Roach was named Roach because she has the intelligence of a roach. Truth in naming.
ConservativeFirst spews:
Comment by W— 2/2/06 @ 12:05 pm
“Is it any surprise that conservatives are the biggest producers and consumers of pornography?”
Do you have some facts to back this up?
Amazed spews:
JCH and others…
who seem to be very overlly concerned about the sex lives of Democrats/liberals, please let us know your thoughts on all the Republicans listed on this web page who have been convicted of having sex with children. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/
W spews:
“Do you have some facts to back this up?”
I’ll have to dig the study up tonight … it’s fascinating reading.
Someone may want to get JCH some handy-wipes to clean his keyboard off once he’s through with it.
JCH spews:
26, GBS, Try to stay on subject. JCH
GBS spews:
JC “I can’t spell compound words” H @ 31:
FUCK YOU, YOU GIGANTIC LOSER!!!!
BAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAAA
I laugh in your face.
Loser.
When you can learn to follow your own advice, I’ll consider your request. Until then, I’ll make it my prerogative to point out what a moronic imbecile you are at every opportunity that presents itself.
Quite frankly, you’re such an idiot, you’re a target rich environment.
GBS spews:
Amazed @ 29:
Nice link, I was trying to think of Neal Horsley earlier. I heard his interview on the radio before. I’ve never lived on a farm, but according to him, animal sex is a certainty if you grow up on a farm.
Know what else?
95% of the farms in this country are in RED states. Seems to me that if you’re a farmer the odds are you’re a Republican. And if you’re a Republican farmer, according to Neal Horsley, you’re an animal fucker, too.
JCH, have you ever done any farming?
No?
You still fuck animals.
Baaa Baaa who’s your daaa-ddy? Whoooo ooo’s you’re daaaa-ddy? Is that how you talk to the animals?
JCH spews:
33. I think 95% of black looting Democrats live in blue states, or at least in blue cities. GBS, where do you live? Did you pay for your 52 inch Sony plasma, or did you steal from Best Buy in New Orleans?
GBS spews:
JC “I can’t spell” H:
Stay on topic!!
The topic isn’t about looters, it’s about animal sex. My post at 33 is relevant. Yours is not.
95% of farming Republicans fuck farm animals. Period
GBS spews:
JCH:
I love the fact you didn’t deny you fuck animals. Now we know: JCH FUCKS ANIMALS.
Nice family values you guys have.
Whooo-oooo’s yer daaaa-ddy?
GBS spews:
LT, huh? So what’s the LT really stand for? Latrine?
Baaa haaa haaaa.
You’re such a dumbass I’m sure that’s all you could be in charge of. Officer of the Potty.
Good God, man, have you no dignity?
LiberalRedneck spews:
-W, Could you explain how AIDS from African monkeys got passed to Democrat fruits and queers in San Francisco? Was George Bush responsible? –
I, for one, am happy to have JCH here to carry to torch for the racist and homophobic Republican party. He says what most conservatives are afraid to let out of their twisted little minds.
And as for Roach’s bill: the right wingers said that the anti-discrimination bill was not needed, since only a few instances of discrimination had been identified. Yet Pam Roach – Queen of the GOP Talibangelist wing – is running this bill because of a single incident in a state of 6 million people.
Statistics have shown that nearly a quarter of all young boys in rural areas have their first sexual experience with an animal. I fully expect this legislation to put a stop to that!
Drivel spews:
@ 37 and I thought it stood for ‘loose tookie’ as that is where his goats do his biding.
marks spews:
LiberalRedneck @38
I, for one, am happy to have JCH here to carry to torch for the racist and homophobic Republican party. He says what most conservatives are afraid to let out of their twisted little minds.
So you must be real happy about Joel Stein’s article a few days past. Do you adhere to Joel’s mindset? He has a liberal view that is worth due consideration since it was published by the LA Times…
And before you make a fatal mistake by going there, I have always been a JCH detractor…
lower case mark spews:
Just when Goldy was about to mount the Rabbit from behind
and those damn Repubs get in the way again. I think our
beloved leadership must not have anything to do.
Cougar spews:
@ 41 you made another mistake mark, isn’t your handle ‘lower class mark’?
marks spews:
lower case mark,
Uhh, hmmm…what the hell? I admit, I have not been paying attention of late, but your post seems incongruous to any topic in this thread…
Mark The Redneck spews:
Hey Rujax – Tell me more about #2. Tell me what fucking “privileges” I have? Make a list.
dj spews:
GBS,
JCH cannot help spelling it “bardyard”.
He has a cold—and is still “hooked on phonics.”
rujax206 spews:
Hey MtR-My FAVORITE asshole!!!!
Weeeeeelllllll,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Let’s see. Privleged from birth.
It’s like what Molly Ivins said about Chimpy…
“Born on third base and thought he hit a triple.”
Mark The Redneck spews:
So in other words, you can’t make a list. You’re full of shit. As usual. Full of moveon talking points, but short on specifics.
Bullshit. You made the statement. Back it up. Asshole. Back it up. Make a list.
Asshole…
JCH spews:
38, Statistics have shown that nearly a quarter of all young boys in rural areas have their first sexual experience with an animal. I fully expect this legislation to put a stop to that! [Liberal Redneck]……………..Although 25% in rural areas, closer to 100% in San Francisco, Detroit, and Harare, Zimbabwe. All, yes, George Bush is responsible!! [hehe]
JCH spews:
37, 38, GBS, Mrs. GBS and you have animal “issues” that should not be addressed here. May I suggest 8 inches of “dead Tookie Williams love” for Mrs. GBS? She will finally be satisfied, and dead Tookie will always be rock hard. Quite a change for Mrs. GBS, and you can watch her pleasure!
Cougar spews:
Great comment as usual Mr L(oose)T(ookie)B>H
BOB from BOEING spews:
FROM A RURAL COUSIN – told at family gatherings after many drinks. Years ago, not recently, and no I will not testify.
Calves, espeically when about 4 weeks are really aggressive suckers. Love fingers, bottles with large ruber nipples. etc.
Well cousin Mark said — this — when he was 14, he thought he might try something. Making sure there was privacy, he dropped his pants to see what the calf might do. And indeed the calf went right for it – his dick – with
gusto.
Cousin Mark for a moment though he had found his true love – so to speak. But within 10 seconds he was hit with searing pain – indeed penis survial was the only issue. He rescued himself with great effort as the calf like being the sucker – bruised and chewed and bleeding.
Calves have no teeth, but a very strong grip and very rough and prickly strong tongues. Mark tells the funny story better than I.
Will this now be illegal, even when the calf wins?
By the way farm animal bestiality is rural — large dogs and urban horny women – not my sisters.. Will ask cousin Mark about that. Just occured to me, all the old jokes you hear.
Goldy, any testimony about male dogs and horny women in Bellevue and Kirkland condos? Pam can get the Eastside cop shop to patrol.
The calf story is true and funny when you are drunk and there are sound effects.
marks spews:
Goldy,
Damn, you do still have a filter…
JCH spews:
Goldy, any testimony about male dogs and horny women in Bellevue and Kirkland condos? Pam can get the Eastside cop shop to patrol. [Bob, great story. I’m sure many dike Democrat women enjoy getting “pleasure” from their German “Short Hair” [get it?] Pointers. BTW, This story reminds me of Democrat “Headless Lucy”.
Mark The Redneck spews:
Marks – Here’s how to get through the filter.
Shit, piss, cock, cunt, motherfucker, screw, tits. You can call Goldy a cocksucking hymie if you want. Or call him a kike. Hell, you can even say nigger. But DO NOT say “grouchoandharpoist”… that is bad…
Mark The Redneck spews:
Marks -And also throw in the words “nazi” and “fascist”. Works every time…
marks spews:
MTR –
Sorry, still laughing :)
Cougar spews:
off topic but with the current missadministration anything is possible:
At New York’s Kennedy airport today, an individual, later discovered to be a public school teacher was arrested trying to board a flight while in possession of a ruler, a protractor, a set square, a slide rule, and a calculator. At a morning press conference, the attorney general said he believes the man is a
member of the notorious “Al-Gebra” movement.
He is being charged by the FBI with
carrying weapons of “Math Instruction”.
“Al-Gebra” is a fearsome cult,” a Justice Department spokesman said. “They desire average solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go off on tangents in a search of absolute value. They use secret code names like ‘x’ and ‘y’ and refer to themselves as ‘unknowns’, but we have determined they belong to a common denominator of the axis of medieval with coordinates in every country.
As the Greek “Philanderer Isosceles ” used to say, ‘there are 3 sides to every triangle’.”
When asked to comment on the arrest, President Bush said, “If God had wanted us to have better weapons of math instruction, He would have given us more fingers and toes”…!!
from http://www.huffingtonpost.com
rujax206 spews:
Dearest MtR (you densest of motherfuckers),
The quote was:
“2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success all on their own.”
What kind of fucking list you want here, homes?
1. You’re WHITE.
2. You’re MALE.
3. Your other WHITE MALES protect your sorry ass?????
4. You’ve never had to fight through any kind of race or class or gender discrimination. And even if it was a “class” thing you’re well…white.
That the kind of “LIST” you’re lookin’ for, cracker???
Like that pretend Cowboy…pretend Pilot…pretend President…who only got there…or got anything else…cause his Daddy was “hooked up”. Was that YOU O’ Marky Mark. You a “fortunate son” like Fogerty sang about. You a “fortunate one”?
No…you’re like Dylan’s “Mr. Jones” from Blond on Blond. “You know something is happening here, but you don’t know what it is.”
It’s the sound of your lame-o Dino-Sore world blowing up like the Hindenburg.
Fuckwit.
RUFUS spews:
58
How do you know MTR is racist. I think your a lilly white liberal circling the plantation making sure your “nigas” stay in line. You pathetic liberal racist. Take your race card and shove it up your lilly white ass.
rujax206 spews:
Rufus…
Read My Lips:
F
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K
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p.s.- Your grammar and spelling REALLY STINKS, dude. Were you “home schooled”?
rujax206 spews:
My kid’s ghetto public school teachers get better results than you.
Drivel spews:
lol @ RUFUS, what happened? Rujax hit your gspot?
RUFUS spews:
Your grammar and spelling REALLY STINKS, dude. Were you “home schooled”?
Comment by rujax206— 2/2/06 @ 8:17 pm
Just playing to the retard audience of liberals.
rujax206 spews:
Lame lame lame
RUFUS spews:
lol @ RUFUS, what happened? Rujax hit your gspot?
Comment by Drivel— 2/2/06 @ 8:19 pm
No, that horse in Enumclaw did that already. Hehehe
Drivel spews:
you mean playing ‘with yourself’ after all that is what wingnuts do best.
Cougar spews:
off topic but… speaking of the RepubliCONS, appropriate that they call, whine, stammer and ‘beg’ for someone to help them with THEIR corruption problems and K Street. Then when presented with a real alternative to the current corruption crowd the do not choose Shadegg but stick with a wingnut that has his nose so far up big business ass’s that he cannot breath. Tobacco, Student Loans, etc, etc. Nice Job CONS
Drivel spews:
You got to love RUFUS. In post 65 he admits that the ‘horse’ in Enumclaw already hit his g-spot. How did it feel RUFUS? Or were you too loose for the horse to have any fun? Wingnuts, everyone should own one just for the commedy of their errors.
RUFUS spews:
The only Gspot rujaX ever hit was with that horse. It makes sense doesnt it. I mean liberal, Seattle, ass fucking all add up to liberal fun.
Drivel spews:
lol, and it was a Republican that got his colon ‘tore’. Was that you RUFUS?
Drivel spews:
I guess the bigger question would be if your inlaws paid for the surgery or if you mooched off of the state?
Drivel spews:
Hey RUFUS, rumor has it that your favorite TV star (or his estate) Mr. ED has plenty of money to help people with your infliction. (even if they are by choice)
Mark The Redneck spews:
Rujax – You’re a fucking idiot.
I have the “privilege” of having a fucking gun to my head every gd day to get more done faster with less or risk losing my job.
I have the “privilege” of going to school constantly to keep up with evolution of extremely complex technologies that you couldn’t even begin to comprehend.
I’ve had the “privilege” of getting up at ODarkThirty every fucking morning for 27 years and driving 30 miles in the dark and the rain to get to the office.
I have the “privilege” of figuring out how to design and build the most complex machines the world has ever seen.
So fuck you. If you want what I got, do what I do. If you’re too fucking stoopid or lazy to do it, then tough shit. Starve to death in the cold in the dark asshole.
rujax206 spews:
Blah blah blah
P.S. I’m not starving.
P.P.S. You’re a fucking liar, too.
Dr. E spews:
73
You’re speaking in tongues, mate.
YO spews:
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY CALL A FAG WITH A VASECTOMY A SEEDLESS GRAPE THAT IS GBS.
Dr. E spews:
?
Richard Pope spews:
I count ELEVEN different initiatives that have been filed by Tim Eyman this year alone:
http://www.secstate.wa.gov/ele.....eople.aspx
Plus the referendum on HB 2661.
BOB from BOEING spews:
Media whore namic; has pushed out all rational thought. It is call a nervpus break apart.
A bit sad, thanks Richard, that is the first commercial I will propose to the Queer money folks. Ding dong, Voters, Bobble Headed Timmie has gone beserk ….. and expert on your policial future ……if it pays well…..Timmie do your kinds and wife a favor, take a break……..
Richard Pope spews:
TIM EYMAN INITIATIVES FOR 2006:
Ballot Title
Initiative Measure No. 913 concerns revenues and fees for state and local governments. Filed 01/09/2006 (WITHDRAWN BY SPONSOR)
Ballot Title
Initiative Measure No. 914 concerns prohibiting discrimination and preferential treatment. Filed 01/09/2006
Ballot Title
Initiative Measure No. 915 concerns limiting motor vehicle charges. Filed 01/09/2006 (WITHDRAWN BY SPONSOR)
Ballot Title (Initiative 916)
Relating to transportation. Filed 01/09/2006 (WITHDRAWN BY SPONSOR)
Ballot Title
Initiative Measure No. 917 concerns limiting motor vehicle charges. Filed 01/09/2006
Ballot Title
Initiative Measure No. 918 concerns transportation. Filed 01/09/2006
Ballot Title
Initiative Measure No. 927 concerns prohibiting preferential treatment. Filed 01/18/2006 (WITHDRAWN BY SPONSOR)
Initative Subject (Number Not Yet Assigned)
Relating to motor vehicle charges. Filed 01/17/2006
Initative Subject (Number Not Yet Assigned)
Relating to transportation. Filed 01/17/2006
Initative Subject (Number Not Yet Assigned)
Relating to revenues and fees. Filed 01/19/2006
Initative Subject (Number Not Yet Assigned)
Relating to prohibiting preferential treatment. Filed 01/30/2006
TIM EYMAN REFERENDUM FOR 2006:
Assigned Number: 63
Filed: 01/31/2006
Subject Matter
Relating to Engrossed Substitute House Bill 2661
BOB from BOEING spews:
77
YOU ARE IN YOUR OWN FANTSY WORLD, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS FUNNY — A FAG WITH A VASECOMY…. THINK NOT – SCAR WOULD BE UNAPETIZING.
EXPERT from BOEING spews:
77
ONE MORE THOUGHT —You moron. Only straight men would ever, repeat ever — call testicles grapes. Have heard a hundred other words, never ever grapes.
Sorry about your small and shriveled self image.
EXPERT from BOEING spews:
FROM THE SEATTLE TIMES – TODAY – RIGHT ON, THREE CHEERS ( Written by a Blethen, the Family which owns same)
The generational disconnect on homosexual rights
Leaders of the fight against civil rights need to give up their crusade. Their notions of sin and sexuality belong in another era, to decades past when women could not vote, black people drank from designated fountains and gays and lesbians were beaten into false lives.
This generational disconnect was on full display the past couple of weeks as gray-haired legislators and salt-and-pepper-bearded pastors tried to deny a law that granted gays and lesbians the rights heterosexuals and minorities have long enjoyed.
It was significant that the civil-rights law passed largely because of a Gen-X Republican’s vote. Sen. Bill Finkbeiner, R-Kirkland, was quoted from the Senate floor in The Seattle Times as saying, “We don’t choose who we love. The heart chooses who we love. I don’t believe it’s right for us to say … it’s acceptable to discriminate against people because of that. I cannot stand with that argument.”
The future of civil rights lies with Finkbeiner and other Gen-X and -Y politicians not yet elected. It will be important for this cohort to be active between now and November. That is when a misguided Tim Eyman referendum or initiative to undo what was done in Olympia could be on the ballot. No doubt the Eyman campaign will be loudly backed by the familiar faces of opposition, who will trot out the same tired reasons, too numerous and faulty to list here, to gain signatures.
One of the reasons used to try to tank any civil rights aimed at gays and lesbians is the claim that those rights will lead to same-sex marriage. On this point, the opposition is correct. Thank goodness. (Before moving on, let’s drop the labels. The weddings I attend this summer will not be called “heterosexual” weddings and the people involved will not be in “hetero-marriages.” So let’s not label marriage as gay. Call it what it is: marriage).
Now that gays and lesbians have legal safeguards that grant them the same rights as the rest of us, it only makes sense that our state give all its adult citizens the right to marry. To not address this inequity would be wrong and perpetuate dated discrimination. Adding momentum to the debate is an expected ruling by the state Supreme Court on marriage.
What the defenders of virtue do not understand is the role marriage has played in the lives of younger generations. The “sanctity of marriage” has become a meaningless slogan when used to perpetuate morals in an age of divorce. We either grew up in a divorced family or had numerous friends whose parents’ marriage habits were like those of dating, middle-school kids. Gays and lesbians certainly could do no worse.
Is the institution of marriage really going to suffer if gays and lesbians are allowed to make the decision to marry? Not a chance. Religious institutions, including the Roman Catholic Church, would not have to condone state-sanctioned marriage.
Not much has changed in heavily Catholic Massachusetts, where marriage was made legal for all by that state’s Supreme Court in 2003. According to the National Vital Statistics Reports put out by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, between the months of January and May in Massachusetts there were 6,753 divorces in 2003, 5,984 in 2004 and 5,137 in 2005. Marriages increased by about 1,000 during the same three years.
So what exactly is the threat? Seems to me the real threat to family is teaching intolerance. We are in an era of unrivaled global interaction that begs for understanding. If American children are taught that their friends and neighbors are a threat to the fiber of family, they cannot be expected to make the leap of comprehension needed to be a world citizen.
The disconnect is not excusable. What the gray-beards must realize is that my generation sees co-workers and friends in same-sex relationships. We watch sitcoms and movies with gay characters. We read novels where lesbians grace the pages. I was shocked by my first compact disc, not my first gay bar.
The elders need only to flip the issue and consider the future, a future of equality beyond them, but in the grasp of their children.
Ryan Blethen’s column appears regularly on editorial pages of The Times. His e-mail address is rblethen@seattletimes.com
Roger Rabbit spews:
“why should the Seattle Times get all the traffic from people lasciviously Googling ‘bestiality,’ ‘perforated colon,’ and ‘sex with horses’…?”
Hey Goldy, I thought what that wingnut got from fucking the horse was a perforated head, not a perforated colon? As in, getting kissed by a horseshoe??
Drivel spews:
So that is that funny scar across RUFUS’ face. I always wondered where he got it. Way to go MR. Ed.
LiberalRedneck spews:
JCH @ 48:
They keep farm animals in downtown Detroit and downtown SanFran? Keep flailing, pal.
-“Is it any surprise that conservatives are the biggest producers and consumers of pornography?” Do you have some facts to back this up? –
I recall an obscenity case in Salt Lake City, where a mini mart owner was arrested for selling a girly magazine to an undercover cop.
His defense lawyer basically subpoenaed all the sex channel subscription records from this conservative city, and illustrated that Salt Lake had a pretty healthy addiction to porn.