The chair of the Oregon GOP says he is surprised at the accusations against one of the accused Woodburn bank bombers. Two law enforcement officers were killed and another gravely wounded in last Friday’s explosive attack. From The Oregonian:
And the arrests of two members of the Turnidge family — which decades ago helped start the Salem Academy Christian schools — have left those who know the family incredulous.
“I would be very surprised if Bruce Turnidge was involved in that,” said Vance Day, the Oregon GOP chairman and a Salem attorney who has known brothers Bruce and Pat Turnidge for several years. “I know him to be strong, very pro-American. He doesn’t believe in violence of that sort whatsoever.”
Marion County prosecutors arraigned the son Tuesday on six counts of aggravated murder, which, if Turnidge is convicted, could carry the death penalty. He also faces two counts of attempted aggravated murder, manufacture of a destructive device, possession of a destructive device, first- and second-degree assault and conspiracy to commit all of the crimes with one or more unidentified persons.
To be clear, the persons accused by authorities in the case are Joshua Turnidge and his father Bruce Turnidge.
People are presumed innocent in this country until proven guilty. Still, with law enforcement yet to offer a possible motive, it’s one hell of a strange and disturbing case.
Cannot wait to hear the back story on that one.
If the bombers had been democrats who had started some sort of liberal school, do you think the tone of the reporting would have been different?
Interesting. Republican terrorists.
Dumbya’s terrorist surveillance program must have excluded those with an “R” next to their names.
Who’d thunk it?
To paraphrase Nixon and the mind set of Cynical and the other conservative posters….
“If a republican does it, it’s legal.”
So basically, a double standard. Republicans don’t have to follow rule of law, everyone else does however.
I seem to remember YLB downplaying what Bill Ayers did, even excusing it. Funny how he changes his tune when a Republican is involved.
Of course this fucking so-called Christian is involved. It’s what the ass-fucked right wingers do. They bomb. They cheat. They lie. They steal. They are so angry over the complete and utter repudiation of anything and everything they stand for, that they have nothing left. They not only hope for America to fail now, the racist, inbred, ass-fucked cowards are helping to make it happen.
The right needs to learn its lesson. We don’t care how or what they think. We don’t care what they believe. They have been rejected. They are irrelevant. Their thoughts, ideas, hopes, dreams and anything else are useless, unwanted and specious at best.
We bent them over and ass-fucked them on Nov 4. Now all they can do is bomb banks. How utterly fucking worthless they are!
4 – That’s a lie. I said that nothing in Obama’s public record indicated advocacy of non-mainstream ideas such as those pushed by Ayers back in his Weather Underground days. The guilt-by-association tactic was bullshit.
And it failed to have the effect wanted by idiots such as you.
I never commented on Ayer’s actions in the late 60’s or early 70’s one way or the other.
So I’ll say it now: it was a lot of juvenile posing that was ineffective and actually hurt the anti-war cause. It was so incompetent it barely even qualifies as terrorism.
As for the Republican subjects of this post, not all the information has come out yet. So far I’m just having a little fun with it. Get out the popcorn.
However in this case, people actually DIED.
I really doubt that any of us knows enough about this case and the people involved to say anything about it, other than to express sorrow over the lives lost and ruined.
27…AF…
Amen!!!
The Piper
I am the only one here to both condemn what Bill Ayers did, and what happened in Oregon. I believe in both cases, Bill Ayers, and whoever planted the bombs in Oregon, should be executed.
@7 AF
X2
Not enough info to draw any conclusions, other than there are families dealing with terrible loss right now..
Sad story.
Fed Up@1:
To answer your question: Absolutely.
Example Rod Blagojevich wasn’t identified as (D) guvnur of Illinois until the bloggers forced the 3 letter news companies to do it.
Example Kwame Kilpatrick wasn’t identified as (D) mayor of Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit until the bloggers forced the 3 letter news companies to do it.
So yes media bias is rampant.
ArtFart: I agree. Except yelling loser boy disagrees with you.
Maybe a woodshed visit for yelling loser boy is in his future. But what can you say for someone with BDS?
9 – This idiot would have people who set off M80’s executed.
This is a very peculiar sort of right wing moron.
Yeah, I suspected those guys might be pukes. I can’t say why. I just did.
Maybe a woodshed visit for yelling loser boy is in his future.
Woohoo! Stupes I didn’t know you cared.
What a fucking lunatic. Seek help.
Gee. So far in this case we have a couple of REPUBLICAN CHRISTIAN bombers involved who have actually KILLED some people.
Just more to add to the record:
http://www.republicanoffenders.com/
What I don’t get, though, is how the prosecutor came up with 6 counts of aggravated murder when only 2 people died. Is it possible for 2 individuals to get murdered 6 times?
@4 I don’t know if “downplayed” is the right word here, but in any case, there’s a difference between property destruction and killing people. And, of course, what Ayers did 40 years ago has nothing to do with anything or anyone except Ayers.
@13 He’ll be lucky if he isn’t executed himself. Treason doesn’t go over too well with patriotic Americans, something Pudz and Piper likely won’t understand until it’s much too late. Christ, one would think that their utter and complete repudiation on November 4th would have been a wakeup call. No, not for our treasonous, goatfucking trolls.
@9 That’s a lie, too. Plenty of people here have condemned Ayers, although I think you’ll be hard-pressed to find anyone — except another insane righty like you — who thinks Ayers should have been executed for setting a few small pipe bombs that did minor damage to government property to make a “political statement” and which weren’t intended to, and didn’t, hurt anyone.
Roger @ 16: I’m guessing that the newspaper is being sloppy in their reporting, as is common on legal cases. Maybe there were six counts, of which only two of them were for aggravated murder? The other counts would have included possession of illegal explosives, use of illegal explosives in the commission of a felony, conspiracy, etc.
Anyway, just a guess – I don’t have any more information than the press releases right now.
Hey Stupes,
Check out this gay Republican who taped himself having sex with male hookers:
http://wonkette.com/378379/mee.....-frat-boys
He’s shaking hands with Karl Rove and Lynn Swann!
Talk about guilt by association! LMAO!!
@15 Links to news stories of the countless Republican pervs and pedophiles who’ve been busted sends Pudz into a tizzy every time. He’ll be back to accuse you of the very things they are quilty of doing. He’s such a loon. If he wasn’t a such treasonous America-hater it’d be funny.
@11 I agree media bias is rampant. Almost everything you see in the MSM these days has a strong rightwing slant to it. Above all, the MSM has turned a blind eye to the endless lies of the GOP and its organ grinder monkey. This is not surprising considering the media are owned by rich white guys who vote Republican and/or giant corporations run by rich white guys who vote Republican.
I am very curious about the motive. A simple bank robbery by a financially strapped family? Or maybe this particular bank was targeted – perhaps they were cutting off a line of credit, or about to turn a mortgage over for foreclosure? If these guys are Republicans and Bush supporters, that would really be ironic, wouldn’t it?
Wow yelling loser boy, you surely love watching that stuff. I bet you’ve bookmarked it just like Stevie the young goat “wonder”.
@13 Let’s ask him if he thinks people who torch abortion clinics or shoot abortion doctors should be executed.
Hey Troll! Got a question for ya, good buddy! Do you think people who torch abortion clinics or shoot abortion doctors should be executed? Just curious.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Paul Hill thought he was going to Heaven just before the warden threw the switch.
@21 Yup, that’s the kind of post that drives Pudz into the deepest possible state of denial. The GOP will keep losing elections until they rid the party of slime like Pudz.
3. Fed up with the Greedy Bastards spews:
Allow me to speak for myself pinhead….
Whoever did this ought to get the Death Penalty.
@25 We love watching video of Cynical humping his goat mistress even more. You think SNL is funny, you ain’t seen nothing til you’ve seen Cynical fucking his goat!
@30 Speaking of goat humpers, look who just showed up!
@25 Nobody but loser Goopers love that stuff, Pudz. YLB and myself simply like sticking your face in it. Your whining and denials are always good for a laugh. You’ve never let us down yet, goatfucker.
@32 Cynical could teach even Pudz a thing or two about fucking goats.
Republicans bombing banks. If it wasn’t for the horrible loss of life, it’d be hilarious.
Poor Stupes. So stupid he’s still wondering why people aren’t buying right wing bullshit any more.
Has Puddy been sucking up to Cynical the Racist again? I tell you what, that’s one strange twosome, er, threesome (counting the poor, hapless goat).
No yelling loser boy and Steve to young goat “wonder”:
Here’s how…
Remember he wasn’t my candidate…
@27
Right Wing media bias is so prominent that they’ve even got Roger Rabbit using their terminology. I’m sure he meant to say health clinics and gynecologists.
Those clinics do more family planning than anything. Family planning that helps PREVENT the need for abortions. They also do pap-smears which help prevent cervical cancer.
Why does the pro-life movement want women to have unplanned pregnancies and die of cervical cancer?
Steve: Nope, but how are those young goats?
Have you finished your “Complete Idiot’s Guide to Doing Young Goats” tome yet (PG13 Title). I heard yelling loser boy is very interested…
Michael@39 Pelletizer never admits his wrongs.
Cuyahoga County
Haiti
If
Al Gore and military ballots
@40 Mention goats and Pudz goes off the deep end every time. Pudz is always good for a laugh. You need a book to help you to fuck your goat, Pudz? You need a “Complete Idiots Guide? Hey, you said it, not me.
Did you check out the link YLB posted, Pudz? Damn if you guys aren’t a bunch of pervs, pedophiles and goatfuckers. You’re just too fucked up for words, Pudz. You know that, don’t you?
@38 Pudz was trying to make a point, I guess, but somehow linked to a site run by a guy who is known to have flown to the Dominican Republic with a jar of viagra in hand so he could have sex with child prostitutes. We already knew that you have great admiration for your extremist wing-nut pedo leadership, Pudz. Try telling us something new for a change.
So the bomb technician shows up and determines the device to be a hoax, then takes it INSIDE the bank for further examination. I am sorry for those killed in the blast but how are bomb technicians trained in oregon? Is it too early to ask this question?
Is the inside of a bank a logical place to dispose of a bomb hoax or in case it just might be a real bomb, don’t leave it outdoors, bring it inside where it can do the most damage!
If you are paid and trained to do your job, do it and stop guessing…especially when it involves public safety.
You know what? I could care less what Republicans do in the bedroom as long as its consensual and no one is exploited. Be gay! Be whatever! It’s a free country. I celebrate freedom.
But what I CAN’T STAND is hypocrisy, holier than thou, fear-mongering, guilt by association.
And that’s all these Republicans have been about since even before Raygun.
@45 Matthew 7:1 sums it up pretty well. Amazing how wing-nut Christians like the racist Cynical and his lackey, Pudz, ignore the teachings of Christ. Well, except for a few passages from Luke, of course. Hmm, perhaps “cherry-pick” is a more apt description than “ignore”.
Steve,
Over in the other thread Stupes is name-calling like crazy trying to deny that Dumbya had an agenda to go with 15 billion in aid to Africa.
Like oil imports from Africa which have doubled since 2002.
What a loon!
39, 41 – Omigod! I’ve been BRAINWASHED by rightys! How did that happen? It must be microwave radiation from KVI’s broadcast tower.
@41 Speaking of military ballots, putz, why did the GOP spend millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours to keep soldiers from voting?
“The Republican National Committee has a special offer for African-American soldiers: Go to Baghdad, lose your vote.
“A confidential campaign directed by GOP party chiefs in October 2004 sought to challenge the ballots of tens of thousands of voters in the last presidential election, virtually all of them cast by residents of Black-majority precincts.
“Files from the secret vote-blocking campaign were obtained by BBC Television Newsnight, London. They were attached to emails accidentally sent by Republican operatives to a non-party website.
“One group of voters wrongly identified by the Republicans as registering to vote from false addresses: servicemen and women sent overseas.
“Here’s how the scheme worked: The RNC mailed these voters letters in envelopes marked, ‘Do not forward’, to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as ‘undeliverable.’ The lists of soldiers of ‘undeliverable’ letters were transmitted from state headquarters … to the RNC in Washington. The party could then challenge the voters’ registration and thereby prevent their absentee ballots being counted. …
“The BBC obtained several dozen confidential emails sent by the Republican’s national Research Director and Deputy Communications chief, Tim Griffin to GOP Florida campaign chairman Brett Doster and other party leaders. Attached were spreadsheets marked, ‘Caging.xls.’ Each of these contained several hundred to a few thousand voters and their addresses. A check of the demographics of the addresses on the ‘caging lists,’ as the GOP leaders called them indicated that most were in African-American majority zip codes. …
“The Republican National Committee in Washington … has refused to say why it would mark soldiers as having ‘bad addresses’ subject to challenge when they had been assigned abroad. …
“Setting up such a challenge list would be a crime under federal law.”
(Quoted from Greg Palast and BBC under fair use.)
Roger Rabbit Commentary: So, question for ya, putz — why do Republicans hate our soldiers?
@27
As someone who thinks graffiti vandals should be executed, I would have no problem with executing arsonists, or abortion doctor shooters.
@50 How about treasonous trolls?
Steve, read the whole thread and see how yelling loser boy changed his position when caught in his standard web of leftist moronic deceit.
52 – Yeah I changed from “wanted one thing – oil” to “wanted even MORE than oil”.
Yep big change there Stupes. You got me cold.
@5 we bentovergop………..”of course it was the christians”…………you fuck. i can just as easily say 9/11 was the jews…..you fuck
I am 100% against the death penalty, save one exception: I am totally supportive of frying right wing clowns who believe in state-sponsored executions.
In fact, I knew the bank bombers boys were gonna turn out to be Republikans. Same way it was obvious Tim McVeigh was a logical extension of the Gingrich Revolution.
Hey, at least these inbreads had guts. Puddybud is a broken man, driven by alcoholism and stereotypes to justify his pathetic life. But Puddy is too impotent to ever carry something like this out. And too drunk.
Domestic terrorism is only real terrorism when “leftist pinhead libs” are involved. Everything else is just plain freedom fries. The banks are just fronts set-up by Zionist Hollyweird-types. Just as our resident right-wing scumbag, Puddy.
PS – Randy Weaver, David Koresh, and all other child-molesting, fruitloop gun-runner patriots are innocent. Always.
PPS – Puddydud @ 41: check the record. BushCo challenged just as many military ballots in 2000 as Gore did. You see, Rove ran the numbers and did what he could to eliminate any & all “leftist pinhead” servicemen possible. I dare you to refute that. Don’t go all impotent on me again this time….