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Open Thread 8/14

by Carl Ballard — Tuesday, 8/14/12, 8:00 am

– RIP Kathi Goertzen.

– The financial impact of November’s initiatives.

– I’m not the only one who noticed that Mitt Romney’s shitty book is shitty.

– may the masses vote like their Medicare depends on it!

– Flyover Feminism

– Who needs local jobs maintaining the lines, trimming the trees, restoring the power? Just ship the profits to a struggling international bank and buy a generator set.

– Fast moving wild fire in Eastern Washington

– Denied religious freedom at Chick-fil-A.

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  1. 1

    kim jong chillin spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 8:06 am

    Totally sucks about kathi….I grew up with her on the news….sad.

  2. 2

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 8:09 am

    Kathi Goertzen was a credit to our community.
    There just are not many like her anywhere, and we were fortunate she dedicated her life to western Washington.
    And she faced her illness with tremendous courage and grace. RIP Kathi.

  3. 3

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 8:13 am

    Deep Thought:
    If vice presidential candidate Republican House leader,Paul Ryan’s Medicare proposal is as wonderful as he, Mitt Romney and his supporters all say it is, then why do Ryan and his supporters always rush to assure today’s seniors that it won’t be enacted for them?

  4. 4

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 8:28 am

    A good day at the Fair

    Obama wrapped up his state fair visit with a swing by the Bud Tent, where a large crowd chanted, “Four more years.” He told them with a smile, “Everyone who’s over 21, you gotta buy a beer,” prompting someone in the crowd to yell, “Is it on you?”

    The president looked into his wallet as some people in the crowd started chanting, “Four more beers!”

    Obama told them, “I’ll tell you what, except for the Romney sign, I’ll buy beers for ten people.” He walked over to the crowd, but it wasn’t clear whether he bought the beers or not, any transaction occurring out of the sight of reporters. But it was clear that Obama ended up with a plate with two pork chops, handed to him by Greg Lear, the president-elect of the Iowa Pork Producers.

    Taking a beer in a plastic cup, the president thanked the bartender and ate a quick dinner with Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, the state’s former governor. “It’s going to go well with my pork chop,” Obama said.

  5. 5

    Rujax!...The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 9:03 am

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....-Ryan-pick

    Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 08:09 AM PDT

    GOP ‘panicking’ over Ryan pick

    by kos

    Gift.

    So if Democrats are doing a happy dance over the Paul Ryan pick, that must mean that Republicans…

    This is from Politico’s conventional-wisdom setting morning email newsletter:

    GOP PROS PRIVATELY PANICKING ABOUT RYAN PICK: “Away from the cameras, and with all the usual assurances that people aren’t being quoted by name, there is an unmistakable consensus among Republican operatives in Washington:Romney has taken a risk with Ryan that has only a modest chance of going right – and a huge chance of going horribly wrong ,” Alex Burns, Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Martin report. “In more than three dozen interviews with Republican strategists and campaign operatives – old hands and rising next-generation conservatives alike – the most common reactions to Ryan ranged from gnawing apprehension to hair-on-fire anger that Romney has practically ceded the election.

    It’s great how all the knuckle-dragger morons here (boob, pussy, maxee et.al.) just looooove them the Paul Ryan and want to have his babies.

    The REAL Republican smart guys (yeah, it’s an oxymoron but what-everrrrr) are horrified.

  6. 6

    Rujax!...The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 9:06 am

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....-Ryan-pick

    More from Markos….

    We were winning, and now we’re winning even more thanks to Ryan. It’s no big secret. Everyone knows it. Only, it used to be just Romney who was doomed. Now, the House is in play and the Senate isn’t going anywhere near Mitch McConnell’s grasp.

    Get ready to have the most fun since 2008. There’s nothing like Republicans in disarray to spice things up. And best of all? When they go down in defeat in November, the internal GOP battle over who lost the election—the squishy liberal Romney or the firebrand conservative ideologue Ryan—will keep things spicy for a long, long time.

    I love it…I reallyreallyreallyreally do.

    Really.

  7. 7

    Rujax!...The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 9:08 am

    Remember kids:

    “Conservatism cannot fail. You can only fail conservatism.”

  8. 8

    Rujax!...The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 9:26 am

    http://crooksandliars.com/karo.....mneys-spok

    August 14, 2012 09:00 AM
    CNN’s Soledad O’Brien Pins Truth On Romney’s Spokeswoman

    By karoli

    Paul Krugman’s take on Romney’s choice of Paul Ryan is, I think, spot on. He thinks Romney is relying on the politerati to just hunker down in their false equivalence bunker and treat Ryan as some kind of Very Legitimate Serious Guy.

    What Ryan is good at is exploiting the willful gullibility of the Beltway media, using a soft-focus style to play into their desire to have a conservative wonk they can say nice things about. And apparently the trick still works.

    With that in mind, I give CNN’s Soledad O’Brien some serious props for staying right on the truth and not letting Romney spokesperson Barbara Comstock do her best impression of Reince Preibus and most of the Republican Party. This nonsense lie that $700 billion has somehow been “stolen” from Medicare played in 2010 when no one really knew what the Affordable Care Act would do. Two years later, senior citizens aren’t “losing” anything. They’ve actually saved lots of money just on the prescription benefit itself.

    The puddypisspussy’s got his cart hitched to a bad horse.

    Better luck in 2016, y’all.

  9. 9

    Rujax!...The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 9:31 am

    http://inthesetimes.com/workin.....dissidents

    Monday Aug 13, 2012 6:10 pm

    Paul Ryan Closely Tied To Corrupt Union Accused of Violently Threatening Dissidents

    By Mike Elk

    The GOP has often accused unions of unfairly coercing members into paying dues–dues that happen to be a major source of support for Democratic candidates. However, an investigation by In These Times reveals that GOP vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan is closely tied to a union that allegedly retaliated against members who dared criticize its financial backing of Republican candidates. Among those candidates were Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and Paul Ryan himself.

    Recently, Operating Engineers Local 139 signed a settlement with the National Labor Relations Board over charges that the union condoned violent threats against members who spoke out against the union’s political stances.

    Paul Ryan’s family company, Ryan Inc. Central, where he once worked, has had cozy ties with Operating Engineers Local 139 for decades. In 1966, the company signed a contract to let Local 139, the Wisconsin branch of the national union, represent its workers. Despite Ryan’s conservative positions, the Operating Engineers have been big backers of Ryan’s career, ranking among his top 20 all-time donors with a total of $48,500 in payments to his campaigns.

    WOW!!!!!

    Lookeee here…a corrupt REPUBLICAN union.

    Mymymymymy.

  10. 10

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 9:36 am

    Deep Thought #2:

    Of the top 3 featured speakers at the Republican convention, which has the greatest probability of carrying his home state for Gekko/Galt 2012?

    a) Ruths Chris Christie of New Jersey?

    b) House Republican leader and father of the super popular “Privatize Social Security” plan, Paul Ryan of Wisconsin?

    c) Slick Willard Rmoney of Massachusetts?

  11. 11

    Steve spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 9:43 am

    “Gekko/Galt 2012”

    That’s a good one, and so true! Yeah, let’s turn the nation over to Gekko and Galt. After all, what could possibly go wrong with that?

  12. 12

    rhp6033 spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 9:47 am

    All glee aside, you have to expect that Romney was looking at some internal polling before he made his choice. I must have seen Ryan as providing some benefit over the other candidates – but I don’t know if he was doing this on an electoral-vote strategy. Was he counting only the states where Ryan helps him on the ticket, or was he also counting those states Ryan would lose for him?

    Personally, I’m not going to take Ryan lightly. He’s a slippery snake that avoids getting pinnned down and knows how to respond to questions by answering with his own talking point, not responding to the question.

  13. 13

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 9:47 am

    @11 Steve,
    No credit to me for Gekko/Galt 2012. I lifted that from Dr. Paul Krugman.

  14. 14

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 9:53 am

    @12 rhp6033,

    Don’t be so sure Slick Willard approached his most important decision as a presidential candidate with a reasoned approach.

    Neither Ryan nor Slick Willard should be taken lightly. If they were to win their governance would likely be more catastrophic than Bush/Cheney.
    But House Republican leader and father of the super popular “Voucher-ize Medicare!” plan, Paul Ryan is a political lightweight whose ability to garner votes anywhere is barely proven.

  15. 15

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 10:01 am

    A note to those 55 and under who may be having a tough time seeing how they’ll continue paying their mortgage for the remaining 10 years.

    The Rmoney/Ryan plan says ‘let’s give people more opportunity to take advantage of not just the standard home.’

    See the Rmoney/Ryan plan to help you out is to take your home away and give you a voucher. Now you no longer have a home mortgage problem, you have a FREE MARKET …. voucher.

    DISCLAIMER: Actual value of your voucher may vary and shall not entitle you to any home nor equity in any home replaced by a voucher. FREE MARKET may or may not mean wholly owned by the Koch Bros. No warranty implied

  16. 16

    YellowPup spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 10:11 am

    It’s worth confronting the Mutton FUD about the $700 billion Medicare cut: http://www.nationofchange.org/.....1344957549

    What Romney didn’t say was that his running-mate’s budget — approved by House Republicans and by Romney himself — would cut Medicare by the same amount.The big difference, though, is the Affordable Care Act achieves these savings by reducing Medicare payments to drug companies, hospitals, and other providers rather than cutting payments to Medicare beneficiaries.

  17. 17

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 10:14 am

    @16 YellowPup, Repeating what I posted downstairs on the last OT.

    David Stockman, Saint Ronald Reagan’s budget director, has chimed in about House Republican leader and champion of budget creation, Paul Ryan over at the NYT with an opinion.

    Paul Ryan’s Fairy-Tale Budget Plan

    In short, Mr. Ryan’s plan is devoid of credible math or hard policy choices. And it couldn’t pass even if Republicans were to take the presidency and both houses of Congress. Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan have no plan to take on Wall Street, the Fed, the military-industrial complex, social insurance or the nation’s fiscal calamity and no plan to revive capitalist prosperity — just empty sermons.

    Slick Willard seems to really have rallied his base, no?

  18. 18

    rhp6033 spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 10:34 am

    I’m trying to discern how Ryan’s nomination is being addressed outside of the partison websites and mainstream media.

    This includes morning drive radio (other than right-wing talk), social media, etc.

    On Monday morning’s radio I heard one fellow list some of the negative comments made about Ryan and his budget plan, only to be dismissed by the other guy (the show host) who said that he had heard that was all overstated and out of context, and that everybody makes such claims so we can never know the truth. And on to the next subject.

    On Facebook, you seek some people inquiring about who Ryan is, and the right-wing folks jumping in to claim that he’s a true independent trying to break the gridlock in Congress and that everything Democrats say about him is a lie.

    We’ve still got some work to do. Just because we know who he is on this site, doesn’t mean that the public knows Paul Ryan.

  19. 19

    rhp6033 spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 10:39 am

    By the way, the Constitutional qualifications for a Vice President is merely that he meets the requirements of a President – at least 35 years old and a natural-born citizen.

    The obvious unstated qualification is that he has to have a beating heart.

    His duties as Vice-President, under the Constitution, are to serve as the President of the Senate.

    But on a broader scale, we have to consider that the Vice-President may be forced to step into the shoes of the President some day. This means that any Vice-President needs to be qualified to be President.

    I really have a hard time imagining Paul Ryan serving as President, especially at a time of crisis.

  20. 20

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 10:46 am

    A note to those 4 million children and pregnant women covered under the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP).

    Are you tired of having medical insurance?
    Well, Rmoney/Ryan have a Roadmap for your future!

    Per the House Republican Leader and personal BFF of Mitt Romney, your receiving expanded CHIP coverage as passed by the Democratic Congress and signed in to law by the Kenyan usurper, Obama in 2009 is a problem. But don’t worry! Rmoney/Ryan have a solution!

    Per the Roadmap For America’s Future, you’re really not part of the future. So, under Rmoney/Ryan they’re going to take away that medical insurance and give block grants to the states.

  21. 21

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 10:55 am

    Mark Sidran, who for years got himself elected or appointed to various public offices by calling himself a Democrat, sold out PSE shareholders and consumers.

    When Sidran was head of the state utilities and transportation commission (U&T), he cast the deciding vote (2-1) to allow McQuarrie acquire PSE. The then-CEO of PSE got a golden parachute of somewhere between $7M and $20M for throwing his shareholders and customers under an Aussie bankers’ bus.

    If you attended the public hearing (I did), you would have heard numerous customers plead with the commissioners not to let a foreign company take over their local utility company. You also would have heard several elderly retirees say their PSE stock was an important source of retirement income for them. (In a takeover, stockholders are forced to sell their stock at a price dictated by the buyer.) Sidran ignored them.

    At that same time, PSE also was seeking a rate increase and a raise in their ROI rate (return on investment), the company’s regulated profit margin. At a time when ordinary people like you and me were getting less than 1% a year on our savings accounts, PSE was already allowed a guaranteed profit of over 10% a year, but they wanted more — to make the company more valuable. Sidran cast the deciding vote in favor of McQuarrie on that, too.

    In the last few years, natural gas prices have plunged, because of vast new domestic supplies unlocked by fracking technology. When gas prices come down, home utility customer heating bills are supposed to come down, too. They haven’t. McQuarrie has pocketed the huge difference. PSE natural gas customers are being gouged at Enron-era utility rates.

    You can thank Mark Sidran for your inflated household energy bills. If he ever seeks public office again, remember that. If Mark Sidran is a Democrat, then Al Capone was one of Mother Teresa’s nuns.

  22. 22

    YellowPup spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 10:56 am

    @17: Kind of drives you nuts when politicians say, “Everything is on the table, we’ll go through the budget line by line, we pay for only what we can afford, blah blah blah.”

    Like John Roberts’ “balls and strikes” judicial rhetoric, it never works that way, and it shouldn’t work that way. It’s always about priorities and who gets to set them.

  23. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 10:57 am

    @3 ” … why do Ryan and his supporters always rush to assure today’s seniors that it won’t be enacted for them?”

    And what are the chances they’ll keep that promise?

  24. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:00 am

    @18 Same old bullshit — Republicans trying to fool voters by saying, “I’m not a Republican!” Try to imagine a company like McDonalds or Coca Cola advertising their products by saying “this
    is not a McBurger!” or “this is not Coke!” But that’s exactly how Republicans attempt to market their “product.”

  25. 25

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:14 am

    @12 “I don’t know if he was doing this on an electoral-vote strategy.”

    The more I study electoral vote maps, the more indispensable Wisconsin’s 10 electoral votes look for the Romney camp.

  26. 26

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:23 am

    Here is the sum of the dueling arguments.
    It’s either
    “We’re in this together”
    or
    “I’ve got mine.”

    Progressives are much more strongly “We’re in this together”,
    Everything SerCon or Puddy promote is “I’ve got mine”

  27. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:25 am

    @12 It’s obviously bigger than challenging Obama for Wisconsin, though. Until Saturday, Romney didn’t have policies, didn’t have a platform, his entire campaign consisted of branding Obama as a failure. He was like a salesman whose pitch is, “Don’t buy from the other guy!” His campaign spokeswoman promised Romney would offer policy specifics, and now there are. At one fell swoop, he defined his campaign and hoped-for administration by making Ryan’s “roadmap” his own. Now he’s got something to sell — and a hell of a lot of selling to do.

  28. 28

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:26 am

    @26, Gekko can take yours. Say what you want, but he’s proven that. Galt’s policies facilitate that.

  29. 29

    Ryanistheman spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:29 am

    The left-wing babble about Paul Ryan’s supposedly slash-and-burn budget plan is nonsense. Here are the facts–
    1) Government spending increases almost every year over the next decade.
    2) Tax and other revenue rises year after year.
    3) The 10-year deficit is still $3 trillion.

    This is opposed to Obama’s out of control spending which will increase the deficit by a whopping $6.7 Trillion.
    Don’t let the facts get in the way of your politicking.

  30. 30

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:34 am

    @29 Ryan’sPollSmoker,
    2) Tax and other revenue rises year after year.

    BULLSHIT

  31. 31

    Rujax!...The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:39 am

    29. Ryanistheman spews:

    The left-wing babble about Paul Ryan’s supposedly slash-and-burn budget plan is nonsense. Here are the facts–
    1) Government spending increases almost every year over the next decade.
    2) Tax and other revenue rises year after year.
    3) The 10-year deficit is still $3 trillion.

    This is opposed to Obama’s out of control spending which will increase the deficit by a whopping $6.7 Trillion.
    Don’t let the facts get in the way of your politicking.

    08/14/2012 at 11:29 am

    Poor little Maxeee is so full of shit his ears stink

  32. 32

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:43 am

    Too funny!
    TODAY – Obama mocks Romney’s wind energy policy with Seamus reference
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ature=plcp

  33. 33

    Rujax!...The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:47 am

    http://thinkprogress.org/econo.....airy-tale/

    Reagan Budget Adviser Blasts Paul Ryan’s Budget As An ‘Empty Fairy Tale’

    By Tara Culp-Ressler on Aug 14, 2012 at 10:40 am

    David Stockman
    Vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan’s budget — which gives massive tax breaks to corporations and the wealthiest Americans, drastically slashes funding for social programs, decimates state budgets, and still ends up ultimately raising the deficit — has garnered critics ranging from Catholic bishops to top economists. Yesterday, former President Reagan’s budget adviser, David Stockman, added his voice to the dissent.

    Stockman, who was the director of the Office of Management and Budget during the Reagan administration, blasted Ryan’s budget as an “empty conservative sermon” and “fairy tale” in an op-ed published in the New York Times:

    Well Fuck…

    …what does Stockman know anyway.

    The emperor max mini-dick (aka kaiser bun the first) has WAAAAAYYYYY more National Budget experience than David Stockman.

    Fukkin’ A!!!

  34. 34

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 11:58 am

    Slick Willard’s selection of the Zombie-Eyed-Granny-Starver, House Republican leader Paul Ryan brings benefits to the next GOP losing candidate for WA Gov.

    In an hour-long interview with The Daily News’ editorial board, Inslee tied his GOP opponent Rob McKenna multiple times to the Romney/Ryan presidential campaign. He said McKenna and Ryan, the Wisconsin congressman Romney picked Saturday as the GOP vice presidential nominee, are too conservative for Washington.
    […]
    “It’s a bit disappointing that the congressman continues to focus on issues outside the state … and very little on the issues that matter to Washingtonians. I just don’t understand why a gubernatorial candidate would be focused on the presidential race like it seems he is,” McKenna campaign spokesman Charles McCray said in a telephone interview.

    Funny, you’d think Bobby Mac would rally round the Romney/Ryan flag. Wonder why he can’t?

  35. 35

    ArtFart spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 12:00 pm

    RE. PSE: First, in all fairness I must point out that the Eastside is prone to more electrical outages than Seattle simply because there are more neighborhoods (like Bridle Trails, for instance) with a lot of big trees close to overhead distribution lines. Just the nature of the beast.

    That being said…last week there was an outage that affected maybe 15 blocks or so centered around 148th NE and NE 24th St. The office I work in is west of Fred Meyer and we lost power at about 2:00 PM. It took several hours before PSE was even able to tell us what caused it much less give an estimate of how long it would take to fix. The juice came back on around 8:30 that evening.

    This morning one of my fellow bus passengers going across 520 was a guy who works at the UW. He’d been in an early morning meeting when part of campus went dark. Someone contacted City Light and got a worst-case estimate that they’d be out most of the morning, so he and others in his department decided to WFH. About the time our bus got to Overlake he got a call saying the service had been restored.

  36. 36

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 12:21 pm

    Just 3 days after Slick Willard BOLDLY chose House Republican leader, Paul Voucher-ize your Medicare Ryan, Gallup reports
    Congress Approval Ties All-Time Low at 10%

  37. 37

    Steve spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 12:34 pm

    “If Mark Sidran is a Democrat, then Al Capone was one of Mother Teresa’s nuns.”

    My 7th grade locker partner at Sharples JH, a classmate later at Franklin. An ass then, an ass now, and yet another reason why Democrats keep breaking my heart. Spineless weasels, most of them anyway, the ones like Sidran.

    I’ve worked with PSE for decades. They’re a shell of what they used to be. I coordinated a new construction project in Auburn with them a couple of years ago and I might as well have been talking to a tree stump. They didn’t keep their word on anything because their engineering department has no word to keep anymore. An outfit called Potelco does all of the engineering work for them now. The entire PSE coordination process for new construction is totally screwed up. They used to be a pleasure to work with, but now I hope I never do another project with PSE again. “You can’t even put a PSE crew together to splice a damned cable anymore, can you?” “Oh yeah, we can still do that!” “Yeah, right.”

    Don’t get me started on the Utilities Commission. They were utility lackeys long before Sidran showed up.

  38. 38

    Steve spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 12:47 pm

    @32 “Too funny!”

    Dogs on cars? Yes, we can!

  39. 39

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 12:49 pm

    RomneyCare enthusiast and Slick Willard’s excuse for a Press Secretary, Andrea Saul, is not going to take anything lying down [ahem]

    Romney camp wants Obama to denounce Biden’s ‘slanderous’ remark

    Via GOS

    Don’t think Andrea, who was denounced by everyone on her side, is going to get what she wants, ever.

  40. 40

    Gman spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:12 pm

    Hey Big Spender. Paul Ryan pig spender. Spend and borrow from the Chinese.

    http://www.politico.com/news/s.....tml?hp=l16

  41. 41

    Steve spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:13 pm

    The Gekko/Galt plan is basically telling the American people that when Gekko closes your plant and ships your job overseas, we can’t afford to send you an unemployment check anymore because Gekko deserved to have his taxes cut to 0.45%. Further, any discussion of this matter that takes place anywhere but in the privacy of the “Gekko-Galt Members-only Club” will be considered class warfare.

  42. 42

    Gman spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:16 pm

    Ryan’s votes on spending came on top of his support for the Bush-era tax cuts, which liberals complain blew a titanic hole in the budget.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s.....z23YNZnkXl

    Statement made as if it is an opinion…no, the Bush-era tax cuts did blow a titanic hole in the budget. The same deficit that is being experienced today.

  43. 43

    Ryanistheman spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:25 pm

    Biden takes campaign to an all-time low!!

    Vice President Biden drew a tough retort from Mitt Romney’s campaign Tuesday after telling a Virginia audience that the Republican presidential candidate’s plan to lift financial regulation would “put y’all back in chains.”
    Romney’s campaign responded by claiming the rhetoric marked a “new low” in the 2012 race.
    Biden made the remarks during a stop in Danville, Va. He took a swipe at Romney’s plan to ease financial regulations, by recycling a Romney bank analogy and creating an analogy of his own.
    They’re gonna put y’all back in chains.”

    Let’s see now–
    You didn’t build that.–Obama
    They’re gonna put y’all back in chains.–Biden

    Sounds mighty desperate and pathetic to me, but let the voters decide.

  44. 44

    Ryanistheman spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:26 pm

    I get a kick out of the Obama regime talking about the “Bush Era Tax Cuts”.
    Let’s see now, Obama signed the bill to extend them
    Doesn’t that make them the Obama Tax Cuts?

    The left has to play with words to try and justify their man’s actions.
    It’s the OBAMA Tax-Cuts.
    Obama signed the bill.

  45. 45

    Steve spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:31 pm

    “Sounds mighty desperate and pathetic to me”

    I reckon a Klown like you would recognize “desperate and pathetic” when you see it, so I’ll take your word on it.

    “let the voters decide”

    Don’t worry, Klown, we will.

  46. 46

    Steve spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:36 pm

    “It’s the OBAMA Tax-Cuts.”

    No, it’s the “Bush tax cuts”, just like it’s the “Bush Recession”, “Bush deficits” and “Bush’s failed war in Iraq”. This sucks for you, I know, but you’d better get used to it, Klown. It’s the way it is and there’s nothing you can do about it. Well, except to continue whining about it.

  47. 47

    Gman spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:41 pm

    @44 – yeah and if there is one thing that I was opposed of Obama doing was extending the Bush Tax Cuts. But in the economic times of today that really wouldn’t be good. But at a minimum the higher bracket shouldn’t have been extended. Obama didn’t want to extend them but had to compromise with Republicans. And as far as extending them again, I hope not, I hope they go away. I don’t care what the effects are on the economy.

  48. 48

    Gman spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:44 pm

    “Sounds mighty desperate and pathetic to me”

    What a pissy little whiner of all the rehetoric that was slinged towards Obama, and you cry the minute the hat is dropped.

    How about Food Stamps President. How about characterizing Obama as a Socialist. And you want to cry about “Y’all in chains”.

    Corporations are people,

  49. 49

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:45 pm

    @43 Klown Kar Windshield Washer,

    “but let the voters decide”

    That’s not the Republican party line.
    The Republican party line (sponsored by American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)!) is disenfranchise the voter in AL,FL, GA, IN, MN, MT, NC, OH, PA, WI ….

  50. 50

    ArtFart spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:49 pm

    Ryan is ostensibly a Catholic who loves Jesus, but at the same time he’s expressed a great deal of admiration for Ayn Rand and her work. To reconcile those two must involve some pretty impressive mental gymnastics. I’ve tried to picture an amalgam of Rand and Christ in one personage and wind up with some sort of hermaphroditic creature that would overturn its own tables and drive itself out of the temple.

  51. 51

    "little maxie" the asshat troll is just another ignorant, lying, right wing, racist hater. spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:51 pm

    Question for the itty bitty trolls. What “Marxist” said this:

    … whatever a man has in superabundance is owed, of natural right, to the poor for their sustenance. So Ambrosius says, and it is also to be found in the Decretum Gratiani: “The bread which you withhold belongs to the hungry: the clothing you shut away, to the naked: and the money you bury in the earth is the redemption and freedom of the penniless.

    Hint: it’s not Ayn Rand..

  52. 52

    "little maxie" the asshat troll is just another ignorant, lying, right wing, racist hater. spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:54 pm

    Poor sad klown..

    Obama signed the bill to extend them. Doesn’t that make them the Obama Tax Cuts?

    Who wants to make them permanent again?

  53. 53

    Gman spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 1:55 pm

    Talking about having a bad day.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....76617.html

  54. 54

    Ekim spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 2:05 pm

    19. rhp6033 spews:

    By the way, the Constitutional qualifications for a Vice President is merely that he meets the requirements of a President – at least 35 years old and a natural-born citizen.

    The obvious unstated qualification is that he has to have a beating heart.

    Dick Cheney had a beating heart? (I mean before the recent transplant.)

  55. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 2:20 pm

    @29(2) Ah, yes, the hoary rightwing fable that lowering tax rates increases revenues is baacck. Let’s see how it works in practice:

    2000 – $2,025.2 billion
    2001 – $1,991.1 billion
    2002 – $1,853.1 billion
    2003 – $1,782.3 billion
    2004 – $1,880.1 billion

    The Bush tax cuts turned budget surpluses into deficits within 1 year. When Reagan tried this, he created huge deficits too, and he ended up raising taxes 5 times.

    The rightwing bullshit never ends. They seem to believe repeating the same lie endlessly makes it true.

    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org.....?Docid=200

  56. 56

    "little maxie" the asshat troll is just another ignorant, lying, right wing, racist hater. spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 2:27 pm

    I gotta give Ryan some credit.

    He is so pure in his opposition to abortion he sponsored a bill to ban IN VITRO FERTILIZATION..

    You know that expensive procedure that allows infertile right wing couples to have children?

    The bill Ryan sponsored would make criminals of all people who use IVF including the children of one Dullard (R-Money)..

    This ought to be comforting to our dear trolls like Dr. Butt and little maxie the asshat.

    Btw I think IVF should be banned too. Well maybe not banned but highly discouraged. Can anyone figure out why?

  57. 57

    Ekim spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 2:30 pm

    35. ArtFart spews:

    RE. PSE: First, in all fairness I must point out that the Eastside is prone to more electrical outages than Seattle simply because there are more neighborhoods (like Bridle Trails, for instance) with a lot of big trees close to overhead distribution lines. Just the nature of the beast.

    There is a cure for that:
    The Caterpillar 532 Track Feller Buncher
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivatjLaYJU8

  58. 58

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 2:33 pm

    @56, If Republican House leader Paul Privatize Your Social Security Ryan was the real man he claims to be, he’d p90x Tag’s ass to next Friday.

  59. 59

    kim jong chillin spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 2:42 pm

    @31

    Ryan is not max you dildo.

  60. 60

    Ryanistheman spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 3:00 pm

    46. Steve spews:
    “It’s the OBAMA Tax-Cuts.”

    No, it’s the “Bush tax cuts”, just like it’s the “Bush Recession”, “Bush deficits” and “Bush’s failed war in Iraq”

    Wrong again bonehead.
    OBAMA extended them, now OBAMA owns them.
    They are now the OBAMA Tax Cuts.
    Take a look at the signature on the Bill dumbass. It’s Barrack Hussein Obama.

  61. 61

    Ryanistheman spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 3:02 pm

    Say it again OBAMA Tax Cuts.
    Obama signed.
    Own it

  62. 62

    Steve spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 3:30 pm

    “Say it” “Own it”

    What’s with you goose-stepping fascists always barking orders at everybody? You two-bit Nazi, if you ever pull that shit in person I’ll take a blade and de-horn you, Klown, and you’ll never fuck another goat again.

    Back to your “Bush tax cuts”, you can go to hell, you stupid goatfucker, and you can take your goddamned “Bush tax cuts” with you.

  63. 63

    Rujax!...The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 3:32 pm

    59. kim jong chillin spews:

    @31

    Ryan is not max you dildo.

    08/14/2012 at 2:42 pm

    How am I supposed to tell the difference…both of you are so fucking stupid.

  64. 64

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 3:52 pm

    Conservatives, why doesn’t it bother you that in addition to receiving Social Security as a teenager and living off government paychecks his entire adult life, Paul Ryan’s family fortune came from taxpayers as well.

  65. 65

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 4:04 pm

    @37 “Don’t get me started on the Utilities Commission. They were utility lackeys long before Sidran showed up.”

    Not all of them. The U&T commissioners voted 2-1 to let McQuarrie acquire PSE. Sidran could have kept PSE a local company. His vote would have made the difference.

  66. 66

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 4:08 pm

    How our veterans get treated under a Republican austerity budget.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_new.....orage?lite

    The good news is this 110-year-old World War 1 widow got her benefit increased from $36 a month to $1,000 a month. The bad news is it took the VA four years to process her request.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_new.....boost?lite

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Most of our veterans and their spouses can’t wait until age 110 to get the benefits they’ve earned and deserve. The VA is a broken promise. It’s time to fix it. That will require spending more, not less, money on our own citizens. It’s not that difficult. The VA could get all the extra staffing they need if the Pentagon canceled the purchase of just one billion-dollar airplane.

  67. 67

    rhp6033 spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 4:10 pm

    # 56: If Ryan is such a dedicated Catholic and defender of all things relating to Catholic reproductive doctrine, how come he and his wife have only three children?

  68. 68

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 4:11 pm

    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been granted asylum in Ecuador. Now all he has to do is get there.

  69. 69

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 4:13 pm

    @67 Maybe she’s got an aspirin between her knees.

  70. 70

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 4:24 pm

    63. Rujax!…The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:
    59. kim jong chillin spews:

    @31

    Ryan is not max you dildo.

    08/14/2012 at 2:42 pm

    How am I supposed to tell the difference…both of you are so fucking stupid.

    08/14/2012 AT 3:32 PM

    way to own-goal yourself……rujaxoff proudly occupying the lowest level of HA…

    good job, loser.

  71. 71

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 4:26 pm

    68. Roger Rabbit spews:
    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been granted asylum in Ecuador. Now all he has to do is get there.

    08/14/2012 AT 4:11 PM

    hopefully his plane gets shot down…

  72. 72

    ArtFart spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:13 pm

    @56 The Catholic Church’s opposition to IVF rests on two notions. First (and comparatively minor) is that obtaining the “fertilization” to combine with the ovum in vitro is generally accomplished by (horrors!) masturbation. The other is that the batting average for IVF in terms of getting the once-fertilized egg back to gestating merrily along in vivo isn’t all that good–so you’re making “concepti” and then effectively killing them. The problem with that line of reasoning is that the majority of concepti created the gold old fashioned way fail to attach to the uterine wall and thus perish. This is excepting a few that attach to the inside of a fallopian tube instead and must be removed before the tube ruptures and Mommy bleeds to death. So when it comes right down to it, the natural process of procreation results in a great many dead embryos. This probably goes a way towards explaining @67 as well.

  73. 73

    Ekim spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:15 pm

    Bigot@71

    Into killing people again I see.
    What is the fascination for you?

  74. 74

    ArtFart spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:15 pm

    @71 Why? Do you have something to hide, or do you just get off on the idea of someone buying the farm?

  75. 75

    "little maxie" the asshat troll is just another ignorant, lying, right wing, racist hater. spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:16 pm

    the lowest level of HA…

    That’s reserved for trolls. And you’re the slimy stuff coating the bottom of the barrel..

  76. 76

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:19 pm

    With that in mind, I give CNN’s Soledad O’Brien some serious props for staying right on the truth and not letting Romney spokesperson Barbara Comstock do her best impression of Reince Preibus and most of the Republican Party

    YEs dumbasabrickrujax, she was read TPM bullshit on the air as her show and debate prep. It’s caught on tape!

    Soledad, up Obummer’s ASS all the way!

  77. 77

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:23 pm

    16. YellowPup spews:

    Nothing significant… Nation of Change, another leftist pinhead rag spouting more leftist pinhead garbage!

  78. 78

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:30 pm

    2000 – $2,025.2 billion
    2001 – $1,991.1 billion
    2002 – $1,853.1 billion
    2003 – $1,782.3 billion
    2004 – $1,880.1 billion

    Of course the Roger DUMB Wabbit forgets about us dealing with 9/11. Facts never get in the way of a Roger DUMB Wabbit argument!

  79. 79

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:32 pm

    Can anyone figure out why?

    Your birth wouldn’t have happened ylbitchslapped ylbuttspigot? We wouldn’t have to read your continual diarrhea trails?

  80. 80

    Rujax!...The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:35 pm

    As if the statndard republican lies and distortion and twisting wasn’t enough…

    …here comes the fucking puddypisspussy.

  81. 81

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:37 pm

    Ryan is not max you dildo.

    Yes rujax is not battery operated! He’s a stiff dead piece of rubber!

  82. 82

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:40 pm

    75. “little maxie” the asshat troll is just another ignorant, lying, right wing, racist hater. spews:
    the lowest level of HA…

    That’s reserved for trolls. And you’re the slimy stuff coating the bottom of the barrel..

    08/14/2012 AT 5:16 PM

    lol…so says the guy living in his basement all day while being stuck in mediocre land….

    some of us are doing great things, employing people, pushing forward and making something of ourselves while hopefully leaving our kids some kind of legacy that they can grow upon for themselves…

    ..you on the other hand..pfft…we long since passed you by…..you cant even pay your damn “fair share” without help from others like me…you are an irrelevant gnat – run along now and go “live on the internet”, homes.

  83. 83

    Ekim spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:42 pm

    You know, Mitt the Twit should hire gOATpUTTY the ButtBoy to run his campaign. The Twit would get a better run campaign and we’d get a more intelligent conversation on HA. A win-win for everyone.

  84. 84

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:45 pm

    80. Rujax!…The President is still Black, GM is still ALIVE, and the US is on MARS (bitches)!!! spews:
    As if the statndard republican lies and distortion and twisting wasn’t enough…

    …here comes the fucking puddypisspussy.

    08/14/2012 AT 5:35 PM

    somewhere, a broom is missing its rujaxoff….

  85. 85

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:46 pm

    83. Ekim spews:
    You know, Mitt the Twit should hire gOATpUTTY the ButtBoy to run his campaign. The Twit would get a better run campaign and we’d get a more intelligent conversation on HA. A win-win for everyone.

    08/14/2012 AT 5:42 PM

    attempt at witty comment fayle.

    shouldnt you be rubbing one out while watching the Ed Show?

  86. 86

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 5:57 pm

    how stupid is rujaxoff? well lets look at his name:

    GM is alive – sure, in no small part to fire breathing 400+ HP V8 Camaros that are selling like crazy – I love it! Take that tree huggers…lol

    We are on Mars – Well, like, we were on Mars in the 1970’s….and the current Mars Science Laboratory program was started in 2004…you know, when that guy named Bush was president.

    owned…..bitch.

  87. 87

    "little maxie" the asshat troll is just another ignorant, lying, right wing, racist hater. spews:

    Tuesday, 8/14/12 at 6:40 pm

    some of us are doing bad things, paying for the cheapest labor possible, enriching ourselves at the expense of other’s lives..

    And playing stupid little know-nothing racists in the HA comment threads…

  88. 88

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    Wednesday, 8/15/12 at 6:45 am

    87. “little maxie” the asshat troll is just another ignorant, lying, right wing, racist hater. spews:
    some of us are doing bad things, paying for the cheapest labor possible, enriching ourselves at the expense of other’s lives..

    And playing stupid little know-nothing racists in the HA comment threads…

    08/14/2012 AT 6:40 PM

    sniff…sniff….smells like…..jealousy.

    face it loser – you had your chance to make something of yourself, and that time has long since gone.

    embrace your world of mediocrity.

  89. 89

    Ekim spews:

    Wednesday, 8/15/12 at 4:56 pm

    If you can stand it…

    Today at 5:05pm, the Sean Hannity Show will bring you the first radio interview with GOP Vice Presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, since he’s landed on the Romney ticket. How will he help defeat President Obama in November? Rep. Ryan weighs in from the campaign trail in a wide-ranging interview you won’t want to miss.

    Listen on 770 AM on your commute home or
    stream the show here

    Might be amusing, but listen at your own risk…

  90. 90

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    Wednesday, 8/15/12 at 5:01 pm

    Might be amusing, but listen at your own risk…

    well it certainly wouldnt be as amusing as a Joe Biden interview.

    GO JOEY B!!!

  91. 91

    YLBigot says: US military deaths after 2008 arent really that important and deserve to be back page news spews:

    Wednesday, 8/15/12 at 5:04 pm

    “gonna put y’all back in chains!”

    nope, no racist connotations by Joey Biden there….

    funny though, in his effort to play TEH RAZITS card, he didnt even quote Romney correctly..

    dufus.

  92. 92

    Ekim spews:

    Wednesday, 8/15/12 at 6:21 pm

    @91,

    Funny how context is everything. What I get reading in context is that the Twit will transfer the chains from the 1%ers to the 99%ers, regardless of race.

    The full context of the remark:

    “Let’s take a look, because now we’ve got a real clear picture, as Tom pointed out. We’ve got a real clear picture of what they all value. They’ve said it. Every Republican’s voted for it. Look at what they value and look at their budget, and what they’re proposing. Romney wants to let the — he said in the first 100 days, he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules. Unchain Wall Street. They’re going to put y’all back in chains.

    “He said he’s going to do nothing about stopping the process of outsourcing. Republicans even voted down a proposal to say, OK, we’re not going to give a tax break like we do now to companies who unbolt the machinery on the floor and send it to Singapore. They get a tax break for that, by the way. We’re not going to do that anymore. We’re going to give a tax break to any company unbolts their factory stuff in Singapore and brings it back to Danville. It’s not going to change the world, but guess what? They voted against it. Romney opposes it. I don’t get these guys.”

  93. 93

    Ekim spews:

    Wednesday, 8/15/12 at 6:25 pm

    @91,

    So is it racism or is Twit & company lying about this?

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