I’m heading off to Yakima for a day of u-pick and me-drink. So here’s a special Open Thread, Sunday Edition. Have at it.
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Katrina reading; http://www.nydailynews.com/fro.....2991c.html
These government failures are not merely a matter of incompetence. Louisiana and New Orleans have a long, well-known reputation for corruption: as former congressman Billy Tauzin once put it, “half of Louisiana is under water and the other half is under indictment.”
But the flood confounded the plan, and the world began to see a tide of human misery rising from the water – ragged, sick, desperate and disorderly. Some foraged for food, some took advantage of the chaos to commit crimes. All in all, they acted exactly the way you could predict people would act who have been locked up in a ghetto for generations.
The world also saw the breezy indifference with which government officials treated these tens of thousands of sick and dying citizens, even as the scope of the disaster became clear. President Bush initially shunned the Gulf Coast and headed to political fund-raisers in the West.
David Brooks seems to have it about right, from my perspective:
”Reaganite conservatism was the response to the pessimism and feebleness of the 1970’s. Maybe this time there will be a progressive resurgence.”
I look forward to real solutions from our elected leaders, not national embarrassments. While with a healthy dose of understanding that the feds can’t do everything, and that the city of New Orleans and the state of LA should have made better plans, it was clear last Tuesday (at the latest) that the situation required immediate resolution. The local and state infrastructure was crushed.
The Bush administration bears responsibility, as does Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco of LA. I would not mind seeing either properly strung up because of it, and having both strung up would sooth my shocked sensibilities.
But before we do that (or even as we do that), I would like to be sure we have saved our nation further disgrace by coming up with a better plan to care for the displaced. Stadiums and convention centers in Texas filled with refugees with no long-term solution is only a little less disgraceful than the institutionalized indifference shown by our leadership last week.
Have look at the “progressive” “democratic” so-called disaster management in New Orleans by looking at the AP photo’s of 350 city and school busses parked in a parking lot. The lunatic, incompetent, “cable guy” mayor orders an evacuation, then leaves city assets sitting to be eventually flooded like the rest of his city rather than make use of busses before “whining” to the country about his need for busses! When this travesty is reviewed and makes it to the media, it will be plain for everyone to see. Democrats screwed this up so badly and were so woefully unprepared, it took the feds to step in and clean up yet another “progressive” “democratic” mis-mangagement mess as a result of years of pathetic incompetence!
Goldy:
“I’m heading off to Yakima for a day of u-pick and me-drink. So here’s a special Open Thread, Sunday Edition. Have at it.”
Since you are drinking, who’s picking for you and how much are you paying them? Hope it’s at least $7.35 an hour, which is the minimum wage in this state.
Before we get too far into the finger-pointing–and there’s plenty of blame to go around, in both parties and all levels of government–why don’t we look for meaningful ways that we can encourage government to help.
First off, there is going to be a tremendous economic impact in the region, with hundreds of thousands of people out of work. But there is also going to be an immense amount of cash from government and insurance companies, as well as individuals rebuilding with their own funds, flowing into the area in the next couple of years. It would be criminal to let this cash fall into the hands of a few while so many who call NOLA home desperately need jobs. We need our federal government to co-ordinate an effot across all of the states affected by the storm, including those housing the hundreds of thousands of refugees, to train the residents of the Gulf Coast in the trades. New Orleans was home to untold thousands of desperately poor people, many with no education and no hope of a better life. Give these people training in the places they have been evacuated to NOW, so that they will be ready to work at jobs in the trades in the near future. Then continue their training on the job as they rebuild their own cities. Train these people to be laborers, carpenters, painters, electricians, utility repair technicians, plumbers, and more.
Second, this is a golden opportunity to re-engineer NOLA to be a better city in the future. Mandate that in the recovery, all lined utilities–power, phone, cable, etc–be moved to underground conduits, so that in future hurricanes we will not have the problems that come from thousands of utility poles disappearing at once. Update the building codes so that the future homes are safer in storms of this magnitude. With entire neighborhoods sure to be razed, seize the opportunity to put a decent public transportation network in place, complete with a plan for evacuating the city when the next hurricane of this strength inevitably comes.
Given the historical corruption in these areas, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have some federal oversight in the areas where federal money will be spent.
These are just a couple of thoughts on what we can do in the near future to mitigate this catastrophe. Any others?
Yuck, yuck. Shame on Goldy for picking his own fruit and robbing farmworkers of their job (reminded of that famous scene in “the sand pebbles”)… so Goldy, do you carry your own bags up to the room (depriving bell persons some tip money), …
From the Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00:
‘The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating.
So let’s have a look see at Democratic, Progressive Mayor Nagin’s ability to follow written directions to avoid the travesty of post hurricane Katrina. Oh, wait a minute, this is HorsesAss (Gawd isn’t the name fitting?)Roger Rabbit, DJ, Rujax, DonnaGeddon and others will claim the feds and Bush stole the keys…
http://news.yahoo.com/news tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015
http://junkyardblog.net/archiv.....tml#004752
IDGAF: Take your warblogger talking point somewhere else. Why don’t you do something constructive and apply for Mike Brown’s job since you seem to know better than anyone else. Lunatic!
IDGAF,
I hate to break it to you, but “Cable Guy” Nagin is, in fact, a lifelong member of the Republican party. He just switched to Democrat to run for Mayor. Kinda like a reverse Bloomberg of NYC.
So, just switch “progressive” and “democratic” with “republican” and “corporatist” and your post will well on the way to being right.
Goldy—
What are you picking???
Probably your fucking NOSE or your ASS, as usual.
When you are in Yakima, I hope you will hand out $20 Bills from YOUR wallet to all the poor, migrant works who work their asses off so we can have cheap fruit. Most of them send virtually 100% of their earnings back to Mexico.
Great comeback Josh! Are you a moron by choice or do you just play one here? Incompetance knows no party lines. But it is the “progressives” and “democrats” so eager to point fingers, assess blame and somehow hope that this will can be pinned on the Bush administration because they are so void of ideas, solutions, plans, or even the most basic of constructive criticism.
Let’s take a look inside the Super Dome. They wouldn’t let the media in. Why? Did they know what was going to happen there. You can’t walk around in the Super Dome at night because you’ll step in human waste. Women are being dragged into restrooms and raped. Fires are being started. Gunshots have been reported. Fights are commonplace. On day one helicopters could have landed outside the Superdome loaded with armed National Guardsmen with orders to treat predators harshly. Didn’t happen. They searched everyone before they entered the Super Dome. No guns allowed. This left innocent people unable to defend themselves. Does it sound trite to say that an armed society is a polite society? Would the predators have been so eager to drag women off to rape them in the bathrooms if they thought that there was someone nearby with a gun that would step in?
We are reaping the results of a liberal culture that seeks to make excuses for violence and criminal activity. [Democrats at play. Not a Republican within miles.]
ConservativeFirst@4–
Now just wait a minute…..
If Goldy actually HIRES someone to pick for him (so he doesn’t have to get his soft, uncalloused hands dirty), he has to pay way more than the $7.35 per hour minimum wage. I expect Goldy to also pay:
1) Social Security
2) Unemployment
3) Worker’s Comp.
4) Health Care Plan (including Vision and Dental)
5) 401(k)—Matching the first 3% of employee contributions.
6) Implement an ERGONOMICS Program for HIS Pickers
7) 25 days of holiday and vacation pay.
8) Benefits extended to Gay partners….of course!
The list goes on & on.
Now is your chance Goldy to set the standard for the downtrodden.
If Goldy does “the right thing”, he will come back with a sack of $450/lb. cherries!!!
It’s a lot harder when you actually employ people Goldy….and do so according to the GOLDY STANDARD!!
The city of New Orleans is descending rapidly into a state of anarchy just when organization and cooperation are most essential. The New York Times reported one scene that is emblematic: “John Carolan was sitting on his porch in the thick, humid darkness just before midnight Tuesday when three or four young men, one with a knife and another with a machete, stopped in front of his fence and pointed to the generator humming in the front yard. [One] said, ‘We want that generator.’ [Carolan responded] ‘I fired a couple of rounds over their heads with a .357 Magnum . . . they scattered. You’ve heard of the law west of the Pecos? This is the law west of Canal Street.'” [When a Republicans just “sezs NO!” to the Democrat majority!! [hehe]
Perhaps this is why Clinton has been so supportive of Bush lately. Pretty clear why he is taking the highroad here.
A hurricane project, approved and financed since 1965, to protect more than 140,000 West Bank residents east of the Harvey Canal is in jeopardy.
The Clinton administration is holding back a Corps of Engineers report recommending that the $120 million project proceed. Unless that report is forwarded to the Office of Management and Budget, Congress cannot authorize money for the project, U.S. Rep. William Jefferson’s office said Thursday.
Without the improvements – a flood gate in the Harvey Canal and raised levees along the Intracoastal Waterway – a tidal surge produced by a hurricane “could result in the catastrophic loss of life and property damage,” corps officials reported. In a worst-case-scenario storm, 82 percent of the buildings east of the Harvey Canal, from The Point in Algiers to the Algiers Lock in the Industrial Canal, would be flooded, causing $2.2 billion in damage, according to corps estimates.
Gerald Spohrer, executive director of the West Jefferson Levee District, is seething. “The bureaucracy in Washington has been given a specific instruction and the way they are dealing with it is to do nothing,” he said.
If financed by Congress, the project could be started early next year, Spohrer said. Work on the Westwego to Harvey Canal Project hurricane levee, costing $90 million, is 30 percent complete, and plans are about to be drawn for the $20 million Lake Cataouatche Project, which would protect the area west of Westwego….
That project is not the only West Bank flood-control work in jeopardy. Federal budget cuts also may prevent construction of levees outside the main hurricane levee system that would protect the Jean Lafitte-Barataria area. Those levees, to cost $5 million, would not protect the area from severe hurricane surges, but could offer protection against a storm such as Hurricane Juan, which while weak, had heavy rains that caused massive flooding.
Have look at the “progressive” “democratic” so-called disaster management in New Orleans by looking at the AP photo’s of 350 city and school busses
But it is the “progressives” and “democrats” so eager to point fingers,
Takes brains….
IDGAF,
The last time I remember any right wingers quoting the words of President Clinton it was to try to get Americans to buy into the WMD lies.
The post, which you are spastically attempting to criticize, is saying that the director of FEMA is totally unqualified, and just a political appointee who got shitcanned from managing a Horsey association. The Horsey association itself has nothing to do with the Olympics, as was claimed.
This post follows a long trend of nepotism and cronyism in the Bush White House.
The fact that Bush played golf the day after the Hurricane hit, or the fact that the was fooling around the day it did hit (reports at the time still asserting it would be Category 5 when it hit), are not part of this post. In fact, nothing in this post says “Blame Bush for Katrina,” instead, quite clearly, it says “Bush is a third-rate, cronyistic President, just use MD Brown as an example”
IDGAF,
Asshat, you quite clearly and repeatedly called Mr Nagin, a CEO who wanted to play politics, a “democrat” and a “progressive.” You are ignorant, asshat, of the basic facts.
This is, I regret to inform you, entirely clear to everyone who can read.
As far as “finger pointing” goes, I guess it is entirely clear you were never in the military, or in any position of executive authority, fucknut. Executives do things. If they come out right, they get praise, if they come out badly, blame. Rarely does Bush go to Ted Kennedy and say “How would you do this?” No, on the contrary, GW Bush thinks he won, and so now things are going to go the way he wants them, unless Congress interferes.
If people fuck up, people are SUPPOSED to point fingers and not sweep the shit under the rug.
Gah, I’d hate to see under your rugs, you lily-livered, yellow peice of filth.
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By the way, the only time I ever ever remember any conservatives or Republicans quoting President WJ Clinton was when they were trying to get Americans to buy the lies about the WMD.
In case there is any question, I said “yellow” because of cowardice, the color associated with cowardice (chicken=IGDAF).
If anyone thought that had a reference to the heredity of the asshat in question, I apologize.
I have no idea what color the skin of IGDAF’s parents are, except that their cheeks are likely red with embarassment.
Asshat.
IDGAF=GLT=Jeff B. Talking point spewing asshats from the war-blog echo chamber.
IDGAF @ 3 – Yeah, yeah, we know. You want to give Bushy a pass on this one too…. surprise, surprise…
Troll.
Asshat – LOL I love that name! Good one Josh! It fits IDGAF PERFECTLY!
But unfortunately, it appears Bushy is going to get away with another one by blaming the parrish president, etc. Then he will get down to the real business of appointing someone to the extreme right to the Supreme Court.
Sunday, Sept. 4, 2005 12:47 p.m. EDT Gov. Kathleen Blanco: No State of Emergency Though her state has been devastated by Hurricane Katrina and thousands are believed dead in New Orleans, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco has yet to declare a state of emergency and refuses to cede authority over rescue efforts to the federal government.”Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans,” the Washington Post reported in Sunday editions. Gov. Blanco’s office rejected the request, the paper said – concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. The Louisiana Democrat has also failed to declare a state of emergency – in marked contrast to Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour and Alabama Gov. Bob Riley, who both issued emergency declarations before Hurricane Katrina struck. State and federal officials also told the Post that Gov. Blanco did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for assistance until Wednesday – more than 24 hours after breaches in New Orleans levee system had flooded the city and killed thousands.
Impeachment is the only solution I can think of. We have to hold the pres accountable for hiring a known incompetent to run FEMA. After watching the talking heads today, it appears that FEMA may have, in some cases, done more harm than good…. Bushy has to go, before we are living in a third world country.
Since none of you (apparently) took me up on the Adopt-A-Looter program, how many of you are heading to Houston, Dallas, Salt Lake, etc to help victims? Or are you all out picking and drankin’?
Message to GW Bush: Stay the fuck home! When you go to the disaster site, or the Red Cross HQ, you cause an extreme interruption of their very important work! No more photo ops, you freaking MORON. Let these people do the job, and stay the fuck out of the way!
Message to Bushy: Stay the fuck home! When you go out for photo ops, you only interrupt the people who are doing very important work! Moron! Let me put it in language you understand: If you aint helpin, stay the fuck out of the way!
IDGAF,
Hindsight is a fun game, but to compare what-ifs in this tragedy shows how ridiculous your insinuation is. The amount of resources that both Governor Blanco and FEMA had to work with dwarf anything Mayor Nagin had at his disposal. If if Mayor Nagin managed to round up enough people to leave their homes and families to drive all those buses, how would they have been able to navigate through the city after the flood waters started rising. All you would have had is a bunch of stranded buses around the city with no food or water.
Running an agency like FEMA is hard, that’s why only qualified people should do it. Please, for the sake of your country, if you’re not smart enough to understand some of these basic issues, you should shut the fuck up until you do.
Message to Bushy: Stay the fuck home! When you go out for photo ops, you only interrupt the people who are doing very important work! Moron! Let me put it in language you understand: If you aint helpin, stay the fuck out of the way! -Comment by fire_one— 9/4/05 @ 11:03 am
Kinda like your dickwagger in chief Clinton everytime he craved attention and face time, eh?
Can we say HURRICANE ANDREW? The VICTIMS beggeded him to keep his waggindick at home, but hey, they were just ordinary rabble and he needed his ego stroked, so down to Florida he went.
Can we say 1995 CHICAGO HEAT WAVE? And what good did dwic do HERE except take law enforcement resources away from saving lives> Oh yeah, that ol’ rabble vs ego thing, again.
And righton and marks, thanks for the postings at the top of this thread. I hope this is the event that finally allows moderate Republicans to regain control of the party.
@22
Can you please post links about how Clinton’s response to Hurricane Andrew was inadequate and left thousands of poor people to die without relief?
Also, can you please elaborate on how FEMA failed during the Chicago heat wave? Did it take 3-4 days to get supplies of bottled water there?
Ass @ 22 – Well, there you go again. As soon as the heat gets turned up, bring up President Clinton….
But, as I was saying, I am beginning to believe that I prefer bushy on vacation… He should just stay there until the next President Clinton is innaugurated…
@24
That wasn’t the issue being addressed.
Fire was whining about GWB going to the ravaged area for photo ops and I replied that hero dwicClinton did the very SAME thing, even after he was asked by victims to stay away for that very reason.
Good for the goose, good for the gander, kiddo.
thehim @ 24 – don’t let them distract you. It’s the same play from the same playbook…. Spin, spin, spin… Distract, deflect, deny… And they don’t really want to compare Clinton and bushy.
Ass @ 26 – and Lincoln distracted people when he visited military encampments, so, the fuck, what? History is history. Let’s talk about your hero bushy. Tell him to stay the fuck out of the way. Moron.
Ass – I apologize for the rough language. I know, and I know that you know, that bush is slowly turning the United States into a third world country. Today, Nigeria offered us financial assistance…
But, as I was saying, I am beginning to believe that I prefer bushy on vacation� He should just stay there until the next President Clinton is innaugurated� -Comment by fire_one� 9/4/05 @ 11:21 am
Snicker.
You seem to think mainstream America is imppressed by your fringie rantings babe and that they will be influenced by them..LMAO
America wants and elects GROWN UPS willing to make hard decisions and not waver in their beleifs.
America does not want the likes of WishyWashyKerry, or ScreaminDean or ‘Her-look-at-my-right-hand-so-you-don’t-see-me-stab-you-in-the-back-with-my=-left-military-hating Hillary.
Any bets on how the oh-so-prepared, we-got-out-early dems in charge fare in the NEXT Louisiana election?
Ass – I have never seen such hate. What is wrong with you?
And they don’t really want to compare Clinton and bushy. -Comment by fire_one— 9/4/05 @ 11:24 am
Oh yes, actually we DO.
And oh yes, actually we DID…hence the reason we don’t have President Bore or President FlipFlop.
It seems our crypto-fascist wingtards were early adopters of what is coming out as the official WH “Blame the Victims” talking points , to whit: “AWOL wasn’t responsible for the lack of federal response, it was all because of the state and local governments!”
Ass – I have never seen such hate. What is wrong with you? -Comment by fire_one— 9/4/05 @ 11:29 am
Right.
Yoohoo Mr Pot, Mr Kettle is calling:
Impeachment is the only solution I can think of. We have to hold the pres accountable for hiring a known incompetent to run FEMA. After watching the talking heads today, it appears that FEMA may have, in some cases, done more harm than good…. Bushy has to go, before we are living in a third world country. -Comment by fire_one— 9/4/05 @ 10:54 am
Message to Bushy: Stay the fuck home! When you go out for photo ops, you only interrupt the people who are doing very important work! Moron! Let me put it in language you understand: If you aint helpin, stay the fuck out of the way! -Comment by fire_one— 9/4/05 @ 11:03 am
Ass @ 26 – and Lincoln distracted people when he visited military encampments, so, the fuck, what? History is history. Let’s talk about your hero bushy. Tell him to stay the fuck out of the way. Moron.– Comment by fire_one— 9/4/05 @ 11:25 am
Gosh, you are really such a shining example of the ‘hate free’.
Fire was whining about GWB going to the ravaged area for photo ops and I replied that hero dwicClinton did the very SAME thing, even after he was asked by victims to stay away for that very reason.
How many people died while he did that photo shoot? That’s the point, shit-for-brains. Clinton was no saint, and you could definitely argue that he was being a weasel for that, but at least FEMA was doing its job while he did it. And you better believe that people like me were critical of him for things like that. But the main difference here is that the people affected by THIS storm have bigger worries than a PRESIDENT DOING A PHOTO OP. That is FEMA’s fault.
Look, I’m pretty pissed off right now. I’ve been reading a lot of international press today, and a lot of opinion pieces and other columns describing what they’ve seen from America as “third-world” and “unbecoming a superpower.” If you were a real patriot, that would bother you. But you’re not. You treat this President the way a mother treats a spoiled child. “Oh, my Timmy wouldn’t do that, it’s that other bad kid down the street who broke the window.”
It’s time to put aside the partisan bullshit, and start living in reality.
Gosh, you are really such a shining example of the ‘hate free’.
Sorry, dickhead, it’s quite a bit more honorable to hate George Bush than to hate your country. If you’re ok with George Bush’s response in New Orleans this week, you’re basically on par with someone rooting for a terrorist attack. That’s the truth, and you need to look long and hard about how you ended up being such a disgusting mess of poor logic and blind faith.
Yes, I hate George Bush. Why? Because I love this country. When you figure this out, you’ll be better off.
So Goldy—
How many “illegals” do you have on the payroll??
Are they pickin’ fast enough for you Masta Goldy???
Don’t beat us Masta Goldy…we be pickin as fas as we can Masta Goldy!!
Yes, I hate George Bush. Why? Because I love this country. When you figure this out, you’ll be better off. -Comment by thehim— 9/4/05 @ 11:39 am
Well, at least on the Bush hating you’re honest.
But if you and your fringie ilk are shining examples of patriots “loving” their country, we are in bigger trouble than I thought.
You see, the fact is, it’s not our country you “love”, it’s the fact that your fringie associates are out of power that you hate. It’s the fact that you are impotent to change this great country into a Cuba or France that you despise. It’s the fact that mainstream America has had enough of the fringie nonsense that makes you rage.
Get over it.
Actually, the “Get over it” was not quite accurate.
Grow up.
Josh, FireOne and TheHim. Ya know what’s most pathetic about your pitiful lives? You think I or anybody else cares what you or any other dellusional, lunatic HA bloggers think of us. Like your party of choice, you are IRELLEVENT and about to become a relic of the past. I am surprised you can actually spell dickhead though. But you must have learned that early on in your life being constantlty refered to as such by most everone without serious psychiatric disorders.
you are IRELLEVENT and about to become a relic of the past.
Sounds like a threat and a promise. Sieg Heil!
The mental illness stuff is really funny! Stop projecting. You’re embarrassing yourself.
It’s the fact that you are impotent to change this great country into a Cuba or France.
Hey Ass. I hear your SO just flew on a Frenchy airplane. How are you going to live that one down?
chrismasghost, mark the redneck, karl, bf, IDGAF, Richard Pope, janet s, conservative_first, Gary, pacman, no wonder: You support Bush. Bush is a lying murderer. The Bush Administration is staffed with liars, incompetents and thieves. Therefore you are all accessories after the fact to murder, embezzlement and theft.
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So far Bush’s murder victims number in the hundreds of thousands. The Federal Dollars (YOUR money too, MTR) embezzled, wasted and gifted to the folks who already have plenty goes into the Billions.
Sounds like a GREAT time for your guys what’re you getting so upset about. You’ve got everything you wanted…money, power, control of the media, control of the social agenda…evrything EXCEPT respect.
Respect is earned.
You’ll NEVER get it here.
Bush will forever be known as the man who lost New Orleans, Iraq, the respect of his countrymen, and the respect of the World.
Great job MR. Fuckup, Sir. Thanks for fucking nothing.
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The Bush Administration-When it absolutely, POSITIVELY has to be fucked up OVERNIGHT!
The Bush Administration-When it absolutely, POSITIVELY has to be fucked up OVERNIGHT!
TO ALL OF THOSE BUSH HATERS, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING
Sunday, Sept. 4, 2005 12:47 p.m. EDT
Gov. Kathleen Blanco: No State of Emergency Though her state has been devastated by Hurricane Katrina and thousands are believed dead in New Orleans, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco has yet to declare a state of emergency and refuses to cede authority over rescue efforts to the federal government.
“Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans,” the Washington Post reported in Sunday editions. Gov. Blanco’s office rejected the request, the paper said – concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law.
The Louisiana Democrat has also failed to declare a state of emergency – in marked contrast to Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour and Alabama Gov. Bob Riley, who both issued emergency declarations before Hurricane Katrina struck.
State and federal officials also told the Post that Gov. Blanco did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for assistance until Wednesday – more than 24 hours after breaches in New Orleans levee system had flooded the city and killed thousands.
Hey Ass. I hear your SO just flew on a Frenchy airplane. How are you going to live that one down? -Comment by For the Clueless— 9/4/05 @ 12:15 pm
As usual, appropriately named clueless, you’re HALF right… my SPOUSE flew on the Airbus, which was flown by AN AMERICAN OWNED AIRLINE COMPANY.
I suggest you look for a whole bunch of other AMERICAN OWNED AIRLINE COMPANYS to buy a whole bunch of other Airbus planes now that the union hacks are determined to shut down Boeing and Seattle.
You know, I heard a guy on the radio make a GREAT suggestion the other day:
Give the Boeing union hacks a limited time frame (48 hours sounds reasonable to me) to get their asses back to work or be FIRED.
After the union hacks dig in their stubborn heels attached to their lazy legs attached to their stubborn, greedy asses miss the deadline, actually FIRE them, and then send recruiters down to Louisiana, Mississippi, Alambama and Texas to offer jobs and relocation to the hurricane victims.
GRATEFUL employees who actually want to work will have Boeing strong again in no time.
ASS – Traitor. You’re giving aid and comfort to the enemy! Alert to Faux News – report on ASS’ perfidy!
LMAO!
Hey
bfbs:How do you explain Proclamation No. 48 KBB 2005?
Hey Clueless! (BTW..what an appropriate nickname)
Look and do your best to read (sound it out if you can)the provisions of the declaration and note the expiration date. (Sorta like the day that welfare check and medical coupons expire)
Or if your ADD doesn’t permit you to read or comprehend the “big” words. see todays Washington Post for the “bullet points”
Dear Wingnutz-
Read THIS…if you dare:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/mijan/27168.html
Oh one additional BTW. Hey ForHim..I understand more than you ever will. Unlike your worthless ass, I have years of first hand disaster training, experience, consulting and response evaluation. I do more for the good of this country within the first hour of a shift than you have in your entire, pathetic, miserable, failure of a life. Until you’ve walked in my shoes for even a minute, shut the fuck up, do something constructive to mitigate this disaster besides hiding behind your computer spewing mindless rhetoric or get the hell out the way.
I should have checked the information in the article. Who knew that the Washington Post could not be trusted. I apologize, for not checking the facts, and believing a news article at face value.
Here is the correction that the Post just posted.
Correction to This Article
A Sept. 4 article on the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina incorrectly said that Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D) had not declared a state of emergency. She declared an emergency on Aug. 26.
Hey ID(IOT)GAF:
Expires September 25, 2005
YOU STEPPED IN IT BIG TIME, SMART GUY!
Give a big SIEG HEIL to your Dear Leader on the chickenhawk blogs!
In the interest of better communication, I am going to cover a few commonly used terms and conventions used on the internet. I am sure a few of you have suspected, but I have been online since the ‘internet’ was bbs systems, email, USENET and IRC.
You can safely skip this one, there is no political content here.
The terms troll and flaming originated on usenet.
A ‘Troll’ is someone who posts onto a newsgroup with something that is off topic and/or is designed to be contrary to the postion of the purpose of the group. Examples of this behavior would be to send a post to the group alt.sex.hampsters.boink.boink.boink about how much you love your cat, or posting to alt.politics.I.hate.tim.eyeman about how much you love him.
As a general rule though on a general politics group, dissention is not automatically trolling.
Flaming is the term used when someone posts a comment that the sole purpose of is to piss someone off. A post to the effect of ‘I hate you and want you to die’ with no further content, or simply restating something demonstrated to be wrong or untrue (or unproven) as fact generally is a flame.
Typing in all caps is generally considered to be yelling and is considered to be rude. If you type in all upper case you look like someone who goes through AOL though.
I don’t think it normally applies here, but including the full content of what you are replying to is generally considered rude as well, you should only include the specific parts you are replying to, or intermix your responses with the original, using something like italics to separate the contents.
Finally if you do want to emphasize, all you have to do is surround what you want emphasized with html tags. The full set of tags are not usable, this comment field (actually most blog comment fields) only appears to allow 4. The tags that my browser tells me are allowable to use here (and how to use them)(hopefully this will work, Im using the name codes so the symbols will show) :
< b > this is bold text < ⁄ b >
< i > this is italic text < ⁄ i >
< em > this is emphasized text < ⁄ em >
also, anchor links work
< a href=”http://webmonkey.wired.com” > this is a link to webmonkey < ⁄ i >
Note, I embedded the actual codes inside what you can see above.
Ok,now I am embarassed. I screwed up that final tag its < ⁄ a >
I really feel the warm-fuzzies when I think ID(IOT)GAF is involved in disaster planning and has wet-dreams somehow of a PERMANENT state of emergency!
or wet-dreams of the Patriot Act being folded in the Constitution.
or wet-dreams of the estate tax being repealed – nice boon to charitable foundations – that one. Heh. Indeed.
Hey Wrabbit do you have a extra room in your house for some poor refugees from the South. You can sponsor a familly by applying with the UN refugee agency chief António Guterres will help you with the paper work. You should know how it works, after we abandon the South Vietnamese to the communist and the mass exitous of people left to live all over the world. We could move them to Fort Lawton untill sponsors can be found to help them. With some of you free time you could be of great help finding homes and support for these devastated folks. Remmeber these poor folks a your voteing base and would add to your clout at the Democrate Party. Do you think that the mayor of Seattle could make it possible to move large numbers of these folks into your neighborhood, you know like the tent people were move to the eastside. Now you have all those extra vacant schools down town that can teach them your point of view, and they will have no problem finding work after they graduate. Now think Patty Murry could get lots of Federal money to help build the Schools and pay for the teachers salaries. I bet Bush would pay to fix up that AWV for being so supported of their plight. I’m sure Seattle has more than enough local support to find home and jobs for these poor folks. Come on Headless Lucy you have a lot of great supported ideas help these poor folks from the south. I bet you can even speak their language with out an accent. Please read the info below and come to a point in your life that you need to quite bitching and help someone in great need and not like LBJ did in the sixties. God Bless, and you to Headless Lucy
Although TV correspondents covering Hurricane Katrina avoid commenting on the obvious, their cameras hold back nothing. The people who couldn’t or wouldn’t leave New Orleans are overwhelmingly poor and black. As are the looters.
The images may surprise people whose visual pictures of the city are of tipsy partiers on Bourbon Street or plump chefs in French Quarter restaurants. But the vicious winds of Katrina exposed a far different reality.
The Census Bureau reported this week that the number of Americans living in poverty rose last year to 12.7%, the fourth consecutive year the poverty rate has risen. New Orleans’ poverty rate is nearly double the national rate, and 40% of the city’s children live in poverty. More than two-thirds of the city’s residents are African-American.
Those are the people gathered in desperation at the Morial Convention Center, their shattered and messy lives on full public display. Those are the faces behind the dry statistics in the government reports.
Failure to address that reality appears to be a central reason that New Orleans’ meager and mismanaged disaster plan failed. Many of the poor lacked cars, leaving them unable to escape the city.
Lacking money, many also surely lacked places to go. Lacking education, many may not have grasped the threat. And lacking good health, many were too weak to survive.
Those shortcomings were not addressed. The result is the heartbreaking pictures coming out of the city Thursday. They were reminiscent of Third World refugee camps.
None of this, of course, excuses the looting, except perhaps to obtain food and water to survive. And it certainly doesn’t excuse the shooting. Some looters even fired shots at rescuers Thursday, interfering with their critical missions as the city descended into near-anarchy.
But lawlessness is the inevitable companion of mass poverty, and a threat to civil order should have been anticipated.
There seems little doubt that order will be restored swiftly. Police and National Guard forces headed for New Orleans certainly have the capability. And there is no doubt that Americans will respond with an outpouring of generosity to citizens in need, just as they did for the tsunami victims of Southeast Asia.
Sadly, there is also no doubt that when New Orleans eventually returns to some form of normalcy, its poor will once again become invisible. At least until the next disaster strikes.
Hey ASS where are you?
Didn’t your private school education prepare you for the situation when liberals confront you with your economic support for the French? I thought you guys were superior or something.
Gee there’s just so much to hate in this world. It must be hard keeping it all straight without a private school education.
hey folks I had a great commint to make but I used that nasty word comminust and spelled it right, and the filter sucked up all that great wisdom.
Hey ID(IOT)GAF and
BFBS:Didn’t anyone ever tell you guys not to believe everything you read in the papers? Hell, I even remember Ronald Reagan quipping about that one.
I wouldn’t believe everything I read in the blogs either, especially Powerline and InstaHack.
bill @52
Judging by everybody’s italicized posts, somebody screwed the pooch. Thanks for the refresher; I apologize for flaming you, asswipe :)
Everyone here seems to be of the opinion that more accountability is required of government organizations in general, and FEMA in particular. That seems obvious…
Should I also conclude from that that all you moonbats will be enthusiastically supporting the I-900 initiative to require performance audits at all levels of government? If not, why not?
For what a poll is worth at this stage (ABC news, found here):
“Americans are broadly critical of government preparedness in the Hurricane Katrina disaster — but far fewer take George W. Bush personally to task for the problems, and public anger about the response is less widespread than some critics would suggest.
In an event that clearly has gripped the nation — 91 percent of Americans are paying close attention — hopefulness far outweighs discontent about the slow-starting rescue. And as in so many politically charged issues in this country, partisanship holds great sway in views of the president’s performance.
Other evaluations are divided. Forty-six percent of Americans approve of Bush’s handling of the crisis, while 47 percent disapprove. That compares poorly with Bush’s 91 percent approval rating for his performance in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, but it’s far from the broad discontent expressed by critics of the initial days of the hurricane response. (It also almost exactly matches Bush’s overall job approval rating, 45 percent, in an ABC/Post poll a week ago.)
Similarly, 48 percent give a positive rating to the federal government’s response overall, compared with 51 percent who rate it negatively — another split view, not a broadly critical one.”
Dear Wingnutz-
Read THIS…if you dare:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/mijan/27168.html
Comment by rujax206— 9/4/05 @ 1:05 pm
Now that explains you real problem, you better buy some of that BC bud when you visit Vancover BC. You can claim it at the border for medical use and they will let you come back in country. After you inhale a few of those joints you can practice your violin and play us a new song. Not the Yellow Submarine song but something new like Crosby, Stills And Nash played last Friday.
For what a poll is worth at this stage, from ABC News:
“Americans are broadly critical of government preparedness in the Hurricane Katrina disaster — but far fewer take George W. Bush personally to task for the problems, and public anger about the response is less widespread than some critics would suggest.”
marks *grin* Thanks.
Well, at least on the Bush hating you’re honest.
What exactly haven’t I been honest about. Care to back that statement up, asshole?
But if you and your fringie ilk are shining examples of patriots “loving” their country, we are in bigger trouble than I thought.
We ARE in big trouble. We are a country that has always been respected and admired for our ability to conquer difficult problems. We failed miserably on this one, and the man in the White House barely broke a sweat over it. His unqualified crony was leading the agency responsible, and thousands of people have been starving to death. We look like a third-world country to the rest of the world. What do you think that’s going to mean when we decide to take action in one of the current problems facing the world, from North Korea to Iran to Darfur? The rest of the world is going to laugh and say, “Are you fucking crazy, you couldn’t even bring water to New Orleans?”
You see, the fact is, it’s not our country you “love”, it’s the fact that your fringie associates are out of power that you hate.
Do you think so, shithead? I didn’t even vote for Al Gore in 2000, and I haven’t been registered as a Democrat in almost 10 years. The nation is NOT divided up neatly into two sides. I care about America being the best country in the world, THAT’S MY SIDE. If you aren’t angry at the Bush Administration over what happened this past week, not only are you not on my side, but you’re not on the side of America either.
It’s the fact that you are impotent to change this great country into a Cuba or France that you despise.
Sorry, but Bush is turning this country into Cuba every day. In Cuba, a small group of ideolodues hold all the power, and an inept central government is unable to support its citizens. Sound familiar? It’s not called the “ownership society” down there, but the result is the same. Capitalism and socialism end up as disasters when each is taken to its extreme. Before idiots like you tried to participate in the political debate in this country, we never had a problem with that.
It’s the fact that mainstream America has had enough of the fringie nonsense that makes you rage.
Yeah, and that’s why Bush’s approval ratings are going to be below 40% soon. It may have taken us a while, but (most) Americans know when they’re being fooled.
Hey Bill have you heard from the Wabbit? Did he get stuck in the little rabbit hole this morning, or is he bigger that six pounds today. Maybe the Doc finally got his ass when he jump out of the wabbit hole.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/.....index.html
Evacuees anguished at leaving pets behind
ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) — As Valerie Bennett was evacuated from a New Orleans hospital, rescuers told her there was no room in the boat for her dogs.
She pleaded. “I offered him my wedding ring and my mom’s wedding ring,” the 34-year-old nurse recalled Saturday.
They wouldn’t budge. She and her husband could bring only one item, and they already had a plastic tub containing the medicines her husband, a liver transplant recipient, needed to survive.
Such emotional scenes were repeated perhaps thousands of times along the Gulf Coast last week as pet owners were forced to abandon their animals in the midst of evacuation.
In one example reported last week by The Associated Press, a police officer took a dog from one little boy waiting to get on a bus in New Orleans. “Snowball! Snowball!” the boy cried until he vomited. The policeman told a reporter he didn’t know what would happen to the dog.
At the hospital, a doctor euthanized some animals at the request of their owners, who feared they would be abandoned and starve to death. He set up a small gas chamber out of a plastic-wrapped dog kennel.
“The bigger dogs were fighting it. Fighting the gas. It took them longer. When I saw that, I said, ‘I can’t do it,’ ” said Bennett’s husband, Lorne.
Valerie Bennett left her dogs with the anesthesiologist, who promised to care for about 30 staff members’ pets on the roof of the hospital, Lindy Boggs Medical Center.
“He said he’d stay there as long as he possibly could,” Valerie Bennett recalled, speaking from her husband’s bedside at Atlanta’s Emory University Hospital.
On Saturday afternoon, she said she saw a posting on a Web site called petfinder.com that said the anesthesiologist was still caring for the animals.
Louisiana State Treasurer John Kennedy, who was helping with relief efforts Saturday, said some evacuees refused to leave without their pets.
“One woman told me ‘I’ve lost my house, my job, my car and I am not turning my dog loose to starve,’ ” Kennedy said.
Kennedy said he persuaded refugees to get on the bus by telling them he would have the animals taken to an exhibition center.
The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals picked up two cats and 15 dogs, including one Kennedy found tied up beneath the overpass next to an unopened can of dog food with a sign that read, “Please take care of my dog, his name is Chucky.”
The fate of pets is a huge but underappreciated cause of anguish for storm survivors, said Richard Garfield, professor of international clinical nursing at New York’s Columbia University.
“People in shelters are worried about ‘Did Fluffy get out?’ ” he said. “It’s very distressing for people, wondering if their pets are isolated or starving.”
The Bennetts had four animals, including two beloved dogs.
They moved to Slidell, Louisiana, in July when Valerie took a job at an organ transplant institute connected to Lindy Boggs. Lorne, a former paramedic, is disabled since undergoing a liver transplant in 2001.
On Saturday, as Hurricane Katrina approached, both went to the hospital to help and took all four animals with them.
They fed their guinea pig and left it in its cage in a patient room. They couldn’t refill its empty water bottle because the hospital’s plumbing failed Sunday, they said. They poured food on the floor for the cat, but again no water.
“I just hope that they forgive me,” Valerie Bennett cried.
Today, Nigeria offered us financial assistance…
Now that’s sad.
Sorry, as far as I know, I don’t know anyone from this board IRL.
Clueless, I don’t buy the planes Mr Appropriately Named.
But, I will indeed support the French, the Indians, the Nigerians, the man in the moon or whomever else is NOT unionthief controlled and will give me value for my hard earned money.
Get up off your horsesass and check out the pzarking lot and checkout lines at Winco one of these days, bud… the PAID unionthug “protestors” haven’t made one single dent in their thriving business…
Which is why the vast majority of the few remaining unionthug membership are government employees… America, once again, has gotten wise to another liberal racket.
Damn. I wish Goldstein would spring for that preview button the way Stefan has…
Ass – Yeah, I understand you… “I got mine. Fuck you.” Isn’t that the RepubliCon theme song?
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I wish Goldstein would spring for that preview button the way Stefan has…
Bitching about a service provided absolutely free. There’s the ASS end of human stupidity!
The finger pointing continues, with this bit of local criticism from a long and scathing article (very critical of FEMA & DHS) in the Washington Post:
“Other federal and state officials pointed to Louisiana’s failure to measure up to national disaster response standards, noting that the federal plan advises state and local emergency managers not to expect federal aid for 72 to 96 hours, and base their own preparedness efforts on the need to be self-sufficient for at least that period. “Fundamentally the first breakdown occurred at the local level,” said one state official who works with FEMA. “Did the city have the situational awareness of what was going on within its borders? The answer was no.””
LiberalDave @ 69: Heck, I’ll spring for more beer money for Goldy if he’ll get a preview button….. :)
“Well, at least on the Bush hating you’re honest.”
Why don’t you point out any place where I haven’t been honest?
But if you and your fringie ilk are shining examples of patriots “loving” their country, we are in bigger trouble than I thought.
We ARE in big trouble. America used to be renowned for being able to overcome problems like this with ease. That America was still alive and well in 2000, but it’s becoming a distant memory today. The rest of the world right now is in shock at how much the once strong superpower is looking like a third-world country. If you have any patriotism at all, that would bother you.
You see, the fact is, it’s not our country you “love”, it’s the fact that your fringie associates are out of power that you hate.
I didn’t even vote for Al Gore in 2000, and I haven’t been a registered Democrat for the last 10 years. One of us is on the “fringe”, and it’s not me.
It’s the fact that you are impotent to change this great country into a Cuba or France that you despise.
No, it’s because I feel helpless about preventing Bush from turning this country into Cuba. Cuba is a country where an ideological elite holds all the power, and the central government is too inept to protect its citizens. Capitalism and socialism both become ineffective oligarchies when taken to their extremes.
It’s the fact that mainstream America has had enough of the fringie nonsense that makes you rage.
Yeah, sure. Whatever. Has Bush’s approval rating gone down below 35% yet?
Jon – But what I find particularly disturbing is that EVERYONE knew that there were 10s of thousands of people left in New Orleans, and no one did anything. They didn’t even TRY. FEMA or DHS could have ordered every bus with 500 miles to NO to evacuate EVERYONE on Sunday, yet we didn’t even try. I understand that this was unimaginable, but I am really getting tired of that excuse. FEMA and DHS had on hand estimations of what a storm like this would do, and still they did nothing.
@22 from HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS —
Clinton? Hurricane Andrew? What are you talking about?
Hurricane Andrew occurred in August of 1992, when the president was …. George Bush I. But don’t let the facts get in the way of a good spin…
BJ,
I didn’t catch that. Hilarious!
fire_one @ 72: Yes, I understand your point, but you can’t solely focus your anger just on the federal level. NO’s own plan calls for an evacuation timeline of 72 hours, and the actual order has to come from the Mayor’s office, which didn’t come until the Governor called the Mayor (after the President called the Governor) and told Nagin to get his folks out.
Let me be clear, the feds must share responsibility, but disaster planning comes first from the local and state level, and any plan isn’t going to work if you don’t follow it, which happened on the local level.
Jon, yes, the blame lies at all branches of the government. Bob Sheiffer had something really profound to say on that point. You should check it out.
http://movies.crooksandliars.c.....sponse.wmv
ASS @ 66
I can see the Faux News segment now:
Neil Cavuto (Italian) reporting!
< French accordion music plays in the background >
I will indeed support the French
Cut to Bill O’Leilly:
BOL: Now tell us ProudAss, why do you and your family support the French?
ASS: We don’t “support” the French, we hate the unions!
BOL: Now now ProudAss, this is the no-spin zone, did you see the pretty pictures of you saying you supported the French?
Jon – I simply do not understand. When did we become a Nation that doesn’t even try? The president, or the governor could have taken to TV and ASKED that every person and company with access to a bus, go to NO, load up, and head west. It would have been much easier to take care of the refugees on dry ground somewhere in Texas. And if I can think of this, why didn’t anyone else? What have we become? How did we ever put a man on the moon?
78 (cont) And maybe we wouldn’t have saved them all, but as of now, they are saying up to 50000 people are not accounted for. We could have, and should have done better than that.
FEMA or DHS could have ordered every bus with 500 miles to NO to evacuate EVERYONE on Sunday, yet we didn’t even try. -Comment by fire_one— 9/4/05 @ 2:15 pm
The DEMOCRAT mayor and governor – who by the way are SUPPOSEDLY responsible for their respective juridictions, should have ordered the damned buses they allowed drown – they should have dispatched their own damned limos, helicopters and personal cars to get the poor, the infirm, the potentially stranded they SUPPOSEDLY represent when they KNEW ahead of time that the damned storm was coming – how the hell is it those up and down the Atlantic seaboard knew it was going to be a vicious ugly storm and the yahoos whose town is threatened by puddles by virtue of the fact it’s below sea level, didn’t? –
how the hell is it we here in Seattle knew it was going to be a vicious ugly storm and the yahoos whose town is threatened by puddles by virtue of the fact it’s below sea level, didn’t?
Jon – thanks for your comments. Too often this place is overrun with spin meisters like Ass.
73 – Nice catch BJ! Again we’re treated to another demonstration of a superior “private school product”.
fire_one 78, 79: Can’t disagree with you.
Liberal Dave @ 76: Sheiffer should have had the guts to replace the word “Washington” with “the Bush Administration”, which is what he really meant. At least Goldy will call like he sees it, right or wrong.
You know you’re right… it’s all Bush’s fault… Rove arranged for this particular hurricane and told GW how to screw it all up – then he ran up to Virginia to make sure CJ Renquist expiredjust to change the focus of the press.
Man you guys sure are smart – you figured it all right out!
Now, tell me again, why is it liberalism is dying?
Tell me again, who is a truly influential liberal mind in our culture?
Tell me again, whose ideas challenge and whose ideals inspire?
Tell me again, whose books and articles are read and passed around?
There’s no one, really.
What’s left is the laundry list: the catalogue of programs (some dubious, some not) that Republicans aren’t funding, and the blogs, with their daily panic dose about how the Bush administration is ruining the country.
Liberalism is dying… hell, stick a fork in it: it’s dead.
Sheiffer should have had the guts to replace the word “Washington” with “the Bush Administration”, which is what he really meant. At least Goldy will call like he sees it, right or wrong.
No, it really wasn’t. There are plenty of people in Washington besides the administration who deserve criticism over all this. I still honestly can’t believe what Hastert said about bulldozing NO. It’s just bad politics and bad policy all together.
ASS, you know, the talking point about people blaiming Bush for the hurricane is so stupid even you really should stop saying it.
LiberalDave – If Hastert had his way, we would start bulldozing NO, and the no-bid contract would have gone to Halliburton…
Why was New Orleans and Louisiana of ill prepared for a very predictable hurricane.
Why can the Houston Astrodome house 25,000 people when the Superdome was at BEST a make shift shelter without even water and toilets. In Houston the refugees will even get showers!
By the way, how many people have died in the non-flood in Metairie? Where is Metairie you ask? It is across the Metairie Canal just west of New Orleans. Metairie is the southern terminus of the Lake Pontchatrain Causway
Oh great. Now there’s reports that six contractors were shot and killed by police on their way to repairing a canal in New Orleans. Here you go, wingnuts. All your calls for “shoot to kill” have been granted.
New Orleans huricane preparation makes New Orleans look like a third-world country. I guess the local government in New Orleans NEVER heard of the Boy Scout motto:
Be Prepared.
I guess the motto of the City of New Orleans is:
Let george do it.
68 Ass – Yeah, I understand you… “I got mine. Fuck you.” Isn’t that the RepubliCon theme song?
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Comment by fire_one— 9/4/05 @ 2:07 pm
Karl Marx said the same thing. So does Hillary, and fire_one! Anyone who doesn’t hand over 50% of their income must be greedy and hateful, right, fire_one? Atlas haas Shrugged, as soon parasites like fire_one will have to support himself. Democrats: social parasites
300 buses “drown” in New Orleans by Democrat mayor and city council. “Them buses can’t vote, so fuck’em” said the black leader of New Orleans.
If they held a state election tomorrow, you can bet that the LA Democrat Party would have 1000 buses ready to take their black “core” to the polls. If New Orleans need buses, vote tomorrow!
ASS, you know, the talking point about people blaiming Bush for the hurricane is so stupid even you really should stop saying it. -Comment by LiberalDave— 9/4/05 @ 2:55 pm
Oh really?…
Moonbats on Speed
Over at DemocraticUnderground.com, “Spazito” weighs in with a theory about Chief Justice Rehnquist’s death:
Bet he died days ago and they are just announcing it now to try and take the heat off bush [sic]. One man has died, well guess what, thousands have died and more are still dying.
It was inevitable that someone would suggest this eventually. But Spazito did it at 11:10 p.m. EDT last night–four minutes after the announcement that Rehnquist had died!
Phew! Thankfully that story was wrong. The contractors were fired on but weren’t killed.
Oh really?…
Yes, really. People are upset at the response to the hurricane, or for policies that have underfunded flood control in New Orleans, or dismissing science about global warming. Anyone who actually thinks Bush is somehow to blame for the weather is as much a troll as you are.
ASS, you know, the talking point about people blaiming Bush for the hurricane is so stupid even you really should stop saying it. -Comment by LiberalDave— 9/4/05 @ 2:55 pm
Quite interesting the way you pick and choose babe… I guess you “missed” the relebant parts:
Now, tell me again, why is it liberalism is dying?
Tell me again, who is a truly influential liberal mind in our culture?
Tell me again, whose ideas challenge and whose ideals inspire?
Tell me again, whose books and articles are read and passed around?
There’s no one, really.
What’s left is the laundry list: the catalogue of programs (some dubious, some not) that Republicans aren’t funding, and the blogs, with their daily panic dose about how the Bush administration is ruining the country.
I love that comment from a FEMA guy protecting his own.
“Did the city have situational awareness?”
Did he mean “During the massive exodus, were they using their laptops and satellite wireless connections to watch Bush play golf?”
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George Valentine would at least be able to fix things (like endless italics ;)
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Perhaps liberalism is dying, as superstitious ignoramii try to impose their primitive religion on Americans, and end up empowering the rich to points never seen in the 90 years we’ve been keeping records.
I guess to be a religious conservative is, as Thomas Frank points out in “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” to be sold of a bill of goods. They promise less abortions and they get tax cuts for those who are better off.
What’s the American Dream? That any hard-working person can make it. In the 1950s and 60s, it was true. A person born poor and a person born rich had almost equal chances of ending up rich or poor.
That’s gone, and GW Bush is making sure it stays gone. Nowadays, if you are born rich you stay rich, and if you are born poor you stay poor, and Bush’s solution is tax cuts for the rich.
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By the way, after almost three decades of reporting annual numbers of abortions, abortions after the 4th and a half month, and teen pregnancy statistics for the United States, the Bush-run CDC stopped in 2000.
Nobody knows how much abortion and teen pregnancy have risen (or, doubtfully, fallen) during Bush’s first term, because, like the Army Corps of Engineer Budgets for the SELA Flood Control Project, Bush is hiding the numbers. Or the numbers on the true cost of the medicare prescription drug bill, he hid those numbers, too.
ASS – just admit it. You love the French. Champagne. Escargot. Airbus 330…
Admettez-l’âne. Vous les aimez! Traître!
Quite interesting the way you pick and choose babe…
Like faulting Clinton for hurricane Andrew? Oh wait, no, that’s just making shit up.
Where’s my comment!
Dang.
I’ll do it again.
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The term asshat comes from MaruTheCrankpot.blogspot.com
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Is liberaism dying? If it is, it is because superstitious religious conservatives are being led by the wealthiest of Americans to destroy the American dream.
It is a lot like Thomas Frank writes in his book, “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” The Religious Righties are voting to reduce abortion and stop gays from having sex, but what they are getting is a tax scheme that makes the top 0.01% richer than they ever have been in human history, and getting more of the total income than any time since Americans started keeping track, even as poverty increases year after year.
In the 1950s and 1960s, there was a great chance for a person born to the poorest Americans to grow up and be rich, and a great chance that some bum born to the richest Americans would grow up and be poor. That’s not how it is now, and Bush’s tax code changes are making it less and likely that anyone born rich will die poor, and anyone born poor will die rich.
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What’s up with abortion? After nearly three decades of reporting abortion, abortion in the second half of pregnancy, and teen pregnancy statistics for the United States, the Bush administration stopped the CDC from doing that anymore. Abortions declined to a multi-decade low while WJ Clinton was President, and we have no idea how it is doing now because Bush hides the numbers.
Just like he is now doing with Army Corps of Engineer budget numbers for the SELA Flood Control Project for the last decade.
Just like he did with the true cost of the corporate Medicare Prescription Drug Bill until after Congress had voted for it.
Bush simply can’t handle the truth, and doesn’t want you to know the truth.
Bush’s Lies Set Their Minds Free of inconvenient facts.
The term asshat comes from MaruTheCrankpot.blogspot.com
Is liberaism dying? If it is, it is because superstitious religious conservatives are being led by the wealthiest of Americans to destroy the land of opportunity.
It is a lot like Thomas Frank writes in his book, “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” The Religious Righties are voting to reduce abortion and stop gays from having sex, but what they are getting are tax cuts for the rich and ever-increasing poverty for the poor.
In the 1950s and 1960s, there was a great chance for a person born to the poorest Americans to grow up and be rich, and vice versa. That’s gone, and Bush’s tax code changes are making it goner. The Estate Tax helps keep rich people’s kids rich.
What’s up with abortion? After nearly three decades of reporting abortion, abortion in the second half of pregnancy, and teen pregnancy statistics for the United States, the Bush administration stopped the CDC from doing that anymore. Abortions declined to a multi-decade low while WJ Clinton was President, and we have no idea how it is doing now because Bush hides the numbers.
Just like he is now doing with Army Corps of Engineer budget numbers for the SELA Flood Control Project for the last decade.
Just like he did with the true cost of the corporate Medicare Prescription Drug Bill until after Congress had voted for it.
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By the way, if George Valentine was investigating things, I’m sure he could fix stuff, like endless italics :)
I despise champagne, I don’t eat slugs and I have yet to fly on the Airbus… do you actualy read or just react? I guess it must be that whole language bullshit you poor kids were duped into believing was actually reading and
comprehending.
And ps… it’s less the private school education I had (although I did), because back then the unionhacks and feds had no influence of the education local public schools provided to local children, as it is the private K-12 education I gave my 3 children …while still paying for YOU to learn how not to comprehend what you can barely read.
The term asshat comes from MaruTheCrankpot.blogspot.com
Is liberaism dying? If it is, it is because superstitious religious conservatives are being led by the wealthiest of Americans to destroy the land of opportunity.
It is a lot like Thomas Frank writes in his book, “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” The Religious Righties are voting to reduce abortion and stop gays from having sex, but what they are getting are tax cuts for the rich and ever-increasing poverty for the poor.
In the 1950s and 1960s, there was a great chance for a person born to the poorest Americans to grow up and be rich, and vice versa. That’s gone, and Bush’s tax code changes are making it goner. The Estate Tax helps keep rich people’s kids rich.
What’s up with bortion? After nearly three decades of reporting bortion, bortion in the second half of pregnancy, and teen regnancy statistics for the United States, the Bush administration stopped the CDC from doing that anymore. bortions declined to a multi-decade low while WJ Clinton was President, and we have no idea how it is doing now because Bush hides the numbers.
Just like he is now doing with Army Corps of Engineer budget numbers for the SELA Flood Control Project for the last decade.
Just like he did with the true cost of the corporate Medicare Prescription Drug Bill until after Congress had voted for it.
By the way, if George Valentine was investigating things, I’m sure he could fix stuff, like endless italics.
The term asshat comes from MaruTheCrankpot.blogspot.com
Is liberalism dying? If it is, it is because superstitious religious conservatives are being led by the wealthiest of Americans to destroy the land of opportunity.
It is a lot like Thomas Frank writes in his book, “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” The Religious Righties are voting to reduce abortion and stop gays from having sex, but what they are getting are tax cuts for the rich and ever-increasing poverty for the poor.
In the 1950s and 1960s, there was a great chance for a person born to the poorest Americans to grow up and be rich, and vice versa. That’s gone, and Bush’s tax code changes are making it goner. The Estate Tax helps keep rich people’s kids rich.
What’s up with bortion? After nearly three decades of reporting bortion, bortion in the second half of pregnancy, and teen regnancy statistics for the United States, the Bush administration stopped the CDC from doing that anymore. bortions declined to a multi-decade low while WJ Clinton was President, and we have no idea how it is doing now because Bush hides the numbers.
Just like he is now doing with Army Corps of Engineer budget numbers for the SELA Flood Control Project for the last decade.
Just like he did with the true cost of the corporate Medicare Prescription Drug Bill until after Congress had voted for it.
By the way, if George Valentine was investigating things, I’m sure he could fix stuff, like endless italics :)
Is liberalism dying? If it is, it is because superstitious religious conservatives are being led by the wealthiest of Americans to destroy the land of opportunity.
It is a lot like Thomas Frank writes in his book, “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” The Religious Righties are voting to reduce abortion and stop gays from having sex, but what they are getting are tax cuts for the rich and ever-increasing poverty for the poor.
In the 1950s and 1960s, there was a great chance for a person born to the poorest Americans to grow up and be rich, and vice versa. That’s gone, and Bush’s tax code changes are making it goner. The Estate Tax helps keep rich people’s kids rich.
Still waiting, babe…
Now, tell me again, why is it liberalism is dying?
Tell me again, who is a truly influential liberal mind in our culture?
Tell me again, whose ideas challenge and whose ideals inspire?
Tell me again, whose books and articles are read and passed around?
There’s no one, really.
What’s left is the laundry list: the catalogue of programs (some dubious, some not) that Republicans aren’t funding, and the blogs, with their daily panic dose about how the Bush administration is ruining the country.
What’s up with abortion? After nearly three decades of reporting abortion, abortion in the second half of pregnancy, and teen regnancy statistics for the United States, the Bush administration stopped the CDC from doing that anymore. Abortions declined to a multi-decade low while WJ Clinton was President, and we have no idea how it is doing now because Bush hides the numbers.
Just like he is now doing with Army Corps of Engineer budget numbers for the SELA Flood Control Project for the last decade.
Just like he did with the true cost of the corporate Medicare Prescription Drug Bill until after Congress had voted for it.
If the left had the billions of dollars of funding the right-wing think tanks, they could hire second-rate hacks like Michael Ledeen to churn out hate-propaganda, too.
But they wouldn’t.
They’d probably try to help people.
bill @62
My pleasure!
Jon @75
“Let me be clear, the feds must share responsibility, but disaster planning comes first from the local and state level, and any plan isn’t going to work if you don’t follow it, which happened on the local level.”
I just thought that was worth a second post!
fire_one @78
Your grasp of the obvious is uncanny! Kudos…
And @ 87
I am reminded of an article written by liberal columnist Ted Rall after 9/11. He was talking about the sound principle of what goes up, must come down. Simply put, why rebuild the WTC if we have been humbled by our own defective engineering? He was for rebuilding it, but the question was a good one to mull over.
The answer is simple: we were attacked, and the Towers would not likely have fallen otherwise in this century without such a violent action. New Orleans was spanked by mother nature, as all things done under the hubristic umbrella of human engineering eventually falls victim to. It is only natural to question why we would attempt to flaunt nature again by rebuilding below the water level. I don’t know if that is what Hastert meant, but that is how I view it.
Seriously, we would not be the United States, and Louisiana would cease being Louisiana, without it. Let’s just make sure most of it is above sea level.
Marks@102
I think you are crazy to think that Louisiana, hampered as it was by the storm, should have been able to bootstrap its way out of trouble.
There were massive problems, and even well after the storm passed people were dying from really basic stuff, like lack of water and food. Medicines would obviously be more complicated.
President Bush has repeatedly lied to Americans about the state of affairs, which makes him look NOT like a leader, but by a butt-covering politician.
The last thing we needed, apparently, were Bush’s visitations.
Of course, you could just BUY a sleek, sweet Airbus A330, which my spouse happily flew to Amsterdam and back.
Comment by HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS— 9/2/05 @ 10:31 pm
sleek, sweet? happily!
Votre passion vous trahit. Vous ne pouvez pas nous duper, âne fier.
Josh @103
“I think you are crazy to think that Louisiana, hampered as it was by the storm, should have been able to bootstrap its way out of trouble.”
Um, what? Where did I say they could bootstrap anything? My main point dealt with rebuilding, but if you look at Jon’s point that I reiterated, LA and NO could have emptied the city prior to the storm. Leadership failure is not limited to the feds.
Marks@105
The quote you reposted seems to me not to be balanced, but you seem sane.
I don’t know anyone who is saying the Fed leadership is all to blame.
But I seriously doubt they could have done _too_ much more emptying before the storm.
All those people showing those school busses assume they were all gassed up and ready to go. During the entire summer break?
Disaster planning must start at the local level, says you? Then why did the Department of Homeland Security pick IEM to do SELA and NO’s disaster plan? Why wasn’t it a local’s choice?
And, to be REAL for a second, localities can plan for a wide range of disasters, but this was one of the biggest storms to hit America in decades. I don’t think it is outrageous to think that cities can’t necessarily execute a plan when “the big one” hits.
I mean, the Mayor of New Orleans was just a CEO playing politics, sorta like some President I know. At least the Mayor of New Orleans doesn’t have a record of running companies into the ground.
You’re damned right “happily”, Appropriately named Clueless – have YOU checked out the First Class accomodations on that puppy? Beats the hell out of anything Boeing offers for comfort on a 9+ hour flight.
Value for my dollars babe… although to be fair, happy spouse chose the FLIGHT, not the equipment assigned to serve it.
Dumbass.
l’âne encore @ 97
Vous dites que vous êtes le produit d’une école privée. Malheureusement, vous êtes un produit défectueux.
Im so impressed Appropriately Named Clueless… you have mastered FreeTranslation.com…. whoop de do.
The last time I was in France was 1979 – they were as rude and arrogant then as they are now (sorts like YOU and your pretentious faux French, Appropriately Named Clueless, but they build a heck of a plane on which to fly 9 hours First class.
l’âne encore @ 107
Can we say HURRICANE ANDREW? The VICTIMS beggeded him to keep his waggindick at home
Dumbass? Beggeded? waggindick?
Vous référiez-vous au Président George H. W. Bush?
Wow, down to ridiculing typo’s – how very clever of you Appropriately Named Clueless.
ASS is such a scientist!
He took a survey in 1979, but simply asserts the whole nation was at a certain rudeness level then, and is at the same rudeness level now.
Stupid.
And do you know how I know you used a translation program Appropriately Named Clueless?
Figure it out.
Hint: it has to do with your keyboard and things it CAN’T do.
LiberalDave @ 92: This is what actually happened with the shootings today:
“Police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on contractors crossing a bridge to make levee repairs, The Associated Press reported.
Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley told AP that police shot at eight people who had guns, killing five or six.
The Army Corps of Engineers told AP that 14 contractors escorted by police were fired upon while crossing the Danziger Bridge, which spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.
Corps spokesman John Hall told AP the contractors were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to help fix a breech in the 17th Street Canal.
Initial AP reports had wrongly indicated that the contractors themselves were shot by police; no other details were immediately available.”
Actually Josshy, Although I havn’t been back to France (my choice, not lack of opportunity), my spouse does quite a bit of business with the French, the Dutch, the Italians, the Australians and the Korean – which is why his/her NWA flyer program rewards us for over 3,000,000 lifetime miles flown… so far.
I really do think green is a good color on liberals – vomited up peas green.
Josh – L’âne est une femme.
Josh @106
Nitpicking here: “All those people showing those school busses assume they were all gassed up and ready to go. During the entire summer break?”
School has been in session in LA since the 15th of August. Be that as it is, once the word came to get out of the city, it would have been tough to find qualified drivers for them…
“And, to be REAL for a second, localities can plan for a wide range of disasters, but this was one of the biggest storms to hit America in decades.”
New Orleans is one of the few localities built below water level. They had an inadequate plan facilitated by the local government. 500 buses taking 25,000 out of the city? I understand they had no buses. Instead, the Superdome was used as a haven, if you could call it that.
Did their citizens deserve better?
I appreciate you thinking I am sane, but Monday morning quarterbacks like us are all touched by something. To be REAL, I refer you to my post @2, which deals with the right now issue…somebody in leadership should step up and give some long range ideas for these folks. I do not know myself, so don’t ask me.
@4
Glad to see a conservative support the minimum wage concept. Now if we can get you to support unions …
@7
What’s wrong with sending their earnings back to Mexico? Oh, I forgot — the concept of supporting one’s family is unfamiliar to you. Mrs. Cynical is, no doubt, working her ass off at a low-wage job while you sit at home on your ass blogging all day.*
(*Except when you’re cranking your washing machine that turns L&I taxes into Rossi slush funds, but I don’t consider that “work.”)
Admettez-l’âne. Vous les aimez! Traître! -Comment by For the Clueless— 9/4/05 @ 3:45 pm
TRANSLATION: Admit-l’ donkey. You like them! Traitor!
Votre passion vous trahit. Vous ne pouvez pas nous duper, âne fier. -Comment by For the Clueless— 9/4/05 @ 4:10 pm
TRANSLATION: Your passion betrays you. You cannot fool us, donkey to trust.
Vous dites que vous êtes le produit d’une école privée. Malheureusement, vous êtes un produit défectueux. -Comment by For the Clueless— 9/4/05 @ 4:25 pm
TRANSLATION: You said that you produced it of a private school. Unfortunately, you are a defective product.
Vous référiez-vous au Président George H. W. Bush? -Comment by For the Clueless— 9/4/05 @ 4:32 pm
TRANSLATION: You referred yourself to the President George H. W. Bush?
Josh – L’âne est une femme. -Comment by For the Clueless— 9/4/05 @ 4:43 pm
TRANSLATION: Josh – THE DONKEY is a woman.
So, Appropriately named Clueless, which is it?
A. You’re too damned cheap to spring for ACCURATE the Human Translation;
B. You’re too damned dumb to check that the Free Translation actually translated what you were attempting to say;
C. You received as bad an education in French as you did in English.
By the way sweetcheeks (Appropriately Named Clueless), have you figured out yet HOW I know your a damned cheat using a program
@18
“Bushy has to go, before we are living in a third world country.”
I was thinking about this last night, trying to understand what was going through these peoples’ minds. Then it struck me — we ARE a third world country! Bushco is turning America into another Phillippines where the rich live in gated communities and see the rest of us as worker drones whose reason for existence is to support their comforts. It doesn’t matter what happens to the drones because more are being born every minute. We’re nothing but pack animals and wheel turners in their eyes. Our health, comfort, happiness, and lives are inconsequential to them.
Initial AP reports had wrongly indicated that the contractors themselves were shot by police; no other details were immediately available.
—
Jon, the people who shot at the contractors got what they deserved.
Hey ASS, thanks a lot for screwing up with the italics @ 30.
Oh there you go again … blame, blame, blame.
At least you do something well.
You know, ASS, living your life in a permanent state of denial isn’t healthy.
L’âne,
Votre mari a volé sur un avion français! Il est souillé! Comment pouvez-vous soutenir ceci?
Queest-ce que je ne peux pas faire avec mon clavier d’ordinateur, âne fier? Dites moi.
Response to Brain-Dead @ 36:
“Well, at least on the Bush hating you’re honest.”
Why don’t you point out any place where I haven’t been honest?
“But if you and your fringie ilk are shining examples of patriots “loving” their country, we are in bigger trouble than I thought.”
We ARE in big trouble. America used to be renowned for being able to overcome problems like this with ease. That America was still alive and well in 2000, but it’s becoming a distant memory today. The rest of the world right now is in shock at how much the once strong superpower is looking like a third-world country. If you have any patriotism at all, that would bother you.
“You see, the fact is, it’s not our country you “love”, it’s the fact that your fringie associates are out of power that you hate.”
I didn’t even vote for Al Gore in 2000, and I haven’t been a registered Democrat for the last 10 years. One of us is on the “fringe”, and it’s not me.
“It’s the fact that you are impotent to change this great country into a Cuba or France that you despise.”
No, it’s because I feel helpless about preventing Bush from turning this country into Cuba. Cuba is a country where an ideological elite holds all the power, and the central government is too inept to protect its citizens. Capitalism and socialism both become ineffective oligarchies when taken to their extremes.
“It’s the fact that mainstream America has had enough of the fringie nonsense that makes you rage.”
Yeah, sure. Whatever. Has Bush’s approval rating gone down below 35% yet? Learn how to close HTML tags and try again.
Paraphrasing:
@x
Fuck you
@y
No, fuck you
This does get tiring…but I am always fascinated enough to see where it goes…
The elite of your country are at war with you, the average citizen; when GWBush said to the rich: “… you are my base.” he was also saying “countrymen”. His country is not regional America, it is financial america. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you may regain the freedoms they have already taken from you – virtually all of your fundamental rights, in the US Patriot Act.
My prayers are with you.
Marks,
“New Orleans is one of the few localities built below water level.”
Actually, New Orleans has sunk over the years due to the fact that it was built on sedimentary ground at the end of the Mississippi. When most of the city was built, it was above sea level.
“Did their citizens deserve better?”
Absolutely, we all deserve better. The biggest problem with what happened there this past week is that the rest of the world looks at that and thinks, “And these guys think they can take care of Iraq?” We used to have a strong mystique about our ability to solve difficult problems. That’s slowly being chipped away by this Administration, and it will make people realize how much our leadership in the world translated to a very comfortable existence at home (once we no longer enjoy it).
L’âne,
Votre mari a volé sur un avion français! Il est souillé! Comment pouvez-vous soutenir ceci?
Queest-ce que je ne peux pas faire avec mon clavier d’ordinateur, âne fier? Dites moi.
Comment by For the Clueless— 9/4/05 @ 5:16 pm
TRANSLATION: The donkey,
Your husband flew on a French airplane! It is soiled! How can you support this?
Queest-ce THIS that I cannot do with my computer keyboard, donkey to trust? Said me.
And so, I’m forced to repeat:
So, Appropriately named Clueless, which is it?
A. You’re too damned cheap to spring for ACCURATE the Human Translation;
B. You’re too damned dumb to check that the Free Translation actually translated what you were attempting to say;
C. You received as bad an education in French as you did in English.
By the way sweetcheeks (Appropriately Named Clueless), have you figured out yet HOW I know your a damned cheat using a program
ps Appropriately Named CLueless, I never once said it was my “husband” OR wife… I believe the words I used were SPOUSE and HIM/HER.
Showing off that public school taught ‘whole language’ failure again, eh?
Response to 36:
“Well, at least on the Bush hating you’re honest.”
Why don’t you point out any place where I haven’t been honest?
“But if you and your fringie ilk are shining examples of patriots “loving” their country, we are in bigger trouble than I thought.”
We ARE in big trouble. America used to be renowned for being able to overcome problems like this with ease. That America was still alive and well in 2000, but it’s becoming a distant memory today. The rest of the world right now is in shock at how much the once strong superpower is looking like a third-world country. If you have any patriotism at all, that would bother you.
“You see, the fact is, it’s not our country you “love”, it’s the fact that your fringie associates are out of power that you hate.”
I didn’t even vote for Al Gore in 2000, and I haven’t been a registered Democrat for the last 10 years. One of us is on the “fringe”, and it’s not me.
“It’s the fact that you are impotent to change this great country into a Cuba or France that you despise.”
No, it’s because I feel helpless about preventing Bush from turning this country into Cuba. Cuba is a country where an ideological elite holds all the power, and the central government is too inept to protect its citizens. Capitalism and socialism both become ineffective oligarchies when taken to their extremes.
“It’s the fact that mainstream America has had enough of the fringie nonsense that makes you rage.”
Yeah, sure. Whatever. Has Bush’s approval rating gone down below 35% yet? And learn some HTML, will ya?
“It’s the fact that you are impotent to change this great country into a Cuba or France that you despise.”
No, it’s because I feel helpless about preventing Bush from turning this country into Cuba. Cuba is a country where an ideological elite holds all the power, and the central government is too inept to protect its citizens. Capitalism and socialism both become ineffective oligarchies when taken to their extremes.
“It’s the fact that mainstream America has had enough of the fringie nonsense that makes you rage.”
Yeah, sure. Whatever. Has Bush’s approval rating gone down below 35% yet?
Why don’t you point out any place where I haven’t been honest?
-Comment by thehim— 9/4/05 @ 5:30 pm
Because I love this country. -Comment by thehim— 9/4/05 @ 11:39 am
Âne Fier. Ne vous répétez pas. Il ennuyeux. Je capitule. Dites-moi.
For some reason, I can’t post part of that response, and I have no idea why. Oh wait, I just remembered “s*c**l*sm” is a bad word:
“It’s the fact that you are impotent to change this great country into a Cuba or France that you despise.”
No, it’s because I feel helpless about preventing Bush from turning this country into Cuba. Cuba is a country where an ideological elite holds all the power, and the central government is too inept to protect its citizens. Capitalism and s*c**l*sm both become ineffective oligarchies when taken to their extremes.
(Man, that’s crazy)
“It’s the fact that mainstream America has had enough of the fringie nonsense that makes you rage.”
Yeah, sure. Whatever. Has Bush’s approval rating gone down below 35% yet? -Comment by thehim— 9/4/05 @ 5:31 pm
Well, there’s a non sequitur (look it uo) if I ever saw one.
You’re questioning that? You truly are a disgrace. I’ve had enough of this. My real name is Lee Rosenberg, and here’s my email: thehim66@hotmail.com
How about you email me, so we can arrange a time where you can say that to my face. Don’t you dare question my patriotism without the evidence to back it up. Here’s my blog, go search for anything unpatriotic. Otherwise, shut your trap. People like you are becoming a national embarrassment, and you have the nerve to question my patriotism.
Âne Fier. Ne vous répétez pas. Il ennuyeux. Je capitule. Dites-moi. -Comment by For the Clueless— 9/4/05 @ 5:32 pm
TRANSLATION: Donkey To Trust. Do not repeat you. It boring. I capitulate. Said me.
Appropriately Named Clueless, you should “capitulate” (snicker) you continually look foolish with your pathetic free translation copy and paste skills.
#137
How is that a nonsequitur? You said that people are getting fed up with people who are angry at the Bush administration, and I pointed out how the numbers of people angry at the Bush Administration have been growing steadily for 2 years. Does your brain even function at a basic level?
140 – non
Je sais
Actually, I think that should be “Je connait”
My French is WAY rusty…
If the people on this board ever met face to face, how would we talk to each other?
Hey ASS,
I just checked my email, and I’m still waiting.
The silence is deafening. Do you have the courage to call me unpatriotic to my face? Hell, do you even have the courage to reveal your real name or even give out an email? Don’t worry, I don’t bite. I just have a very honed skill for exposing people who are full of shit. If you don’t believe me, you can read this.
Of course, as Ann Coulter is being dropped from newspapers coast-to-coast recently, I’m not alone.
If the people on this board ever met face to face, how would we talk to each other?
Many of us meet every Tuesday night at Drinking Liberally, and the discussions are quite enjoyable. I’ve personally invited Righton to join us, and I even gave him the option of picking the bar to meet at. I talk to Republicans all the time. Some are smart, some are dumb. But the worst of the Kool-Aid drinkers never want to meet because their entire ideology is based upon a belief that liberals are the “enemy.” It provides for spectacular examples of illogic and blind faith.
For some reason, I’m still trying to use tags…LOL
Don’t get your hopes up, thehim. There’s a greater chance Bush will nominate a liberal to the Supreme Court. ASS only wants to piss you off.
Maybe one day, ASS will find a more productive outlet for his/her/its online time. This country needs citizens who care about maintaining the high standards that previous generations of Americans established.
Ah, Ann Coulter, daughter of a f**king Nazi warcamp matron. how bout Bill Oh Really, spewing shit from his mouth every second syllable? the problem is overwhelming fuck the world media, like Murdoch (or is it Murder?) Media controlling clearchannel… you have to organize, to boycott just about every publicly traded corporation in your country to get out of this, you know… they want to strangle everything you are, everything that makes you original Americans. They are like Terrorists on Cocaine, with all the funds in the world, set upon raping all of you, average America. God help you.
You need a modern day revolution. A peaceful one that completely topples your government. Frankly, with all the distractions provided by mass media, its a difficult proposition.
thehim @146
“But the worst of the Kool-Aid drinkers never want to meet because their entire ideology is based upon a belief that liberals are the “enemy.” ”
I hope I don’t fall into such a category where my fellow citizens are the enemy, but when I read a blog, any blog, where the writer in power blames Bush for each nefarious horror, I become jaundiced to the conclusion. I have been a reader in many blogs, but none have provided conclusive proof of Bush as the personified evil they claim. Stupidity, perhaps…you won’t get me claiming otherwise…
Aside from that, I do not hate people who claim to be liberal, or even those with bona fides….
Um, markus @150 &151,
Your name is a bit too close for my comfort, but you should do something about your dementia. If I were paranoid (they ARE coming for ME), I would wonder if your post were some sort of cipher…
Er, Goldy:
“You need a modern day revolution. A peaceful one that completely topples your government.
Comment by markus— 9/4/05 @ 6:53 pm”
You ain’t part of this beer-bong, are you?
Hey Mark the Redneck, if you owned property in New Orleans what do you think it would be worth right now?
Katrina has given us a glimpse of what Mark’s world government-less world would look like. No levees, no National Guard, no police, no firefighters, no protection, no food or water — just death. Society would be run by armed gangs and everyone else would be forced to join “tribes” and “clans” to survive. Property and belongings, including food and water, would belong to whoever could take it.
Welcome to the brave new world of Mark the Redneck!
Im not from your country, so im not subject to the hammering bullshit you get for ‘news’. Your media is a fucking FARCE, a propaganda joke that everyone in the world can see! As a result, a lot of rednecks in America have NO IDEA of whats going on in their own country… if you would check news from other countries, news outlets that arent owned by the very companies that want to rape you, you might understand that this administration is like Al Capone and his gangsters, gone nuts… on YOU.
now whos paranoid? You have a government that purposely left thousands of people to die. they’re people who have been hired to look after your interests. they screwed you.
Fuck you Rabbit. I’m not gonna let you mischaracterize me. I never said there was no place for gummint. My bitch is against the freeloaders of society who want me to pay all their goddam bills while they run around free of the consequences of their lifetime of stupid choices.
Hey Rabbit – you bitch all the time about being poor. You also claim you were an attorney before you “retired”. My bullshit detector is flickerin’ yaller. I’ve NEVER met a poor attorney. Never. Because they can generate their own paychecks. Be honest… do you have a JD Degree? Did you pass the Bar? Do you have an license? If so, what’s the number so I can look it up on DOL website. Or were you a “para-legal” or “office manager” or “assistant”. Or are you totally full of shit?
I meant…. if all of us were in a room together….. not just a few invited folks…. would people speak to each other like they do on this board?
im not part of this’beer-bong’ no, im just interested in living a peaceful life. People like the republican party upset that lifestyle for a lot of people, not just me. i think they want war, because all their people seem to be war machine manufacturer executives. all their policies cause war or suffering, and now they finally showed what they think of the people of New Orleans and the Gulf coast.
probably not, Karmalized
When does nature win? Answer: Always. You asses want to bitch about whether the levees should have been stronger or taller. That argument can be made… Now…
But in Seattle, we have vulnerability to catastrophic earthquakes. Geologists say a 9.5 is not out of the realm of possibility. So should we do a 100% survey of every building in the Puget Sound area and force the owners to upgrade or knockdown the building? Could you home withstand a 9.5? Can you afford to upgrade? If you can’t afford, who should pay?
Or do you prefer to “bet the ponies” (to quote Goldy). Time to ante up moonbats. Which is it?
Sometime in the next few weeks, OBL will release a video tape laughing at us and pointing his finger and saying GWB is at fault for all this. There will be ZERO DIFFERENCE between what he says and what you libruls say. That’s why we hate you. You always take the side of Murka’s enemies. So fuck you. All of you.
Thank you, markus, for your feeble self. Shut up and go home. I will worry about the republican party for ya…howz that?…Loser…If I had to do anything…Are you one of those idiots who controls the pigs who can find the truffles?
yes i am one of those people who control the pigs that hunt truffles… and you are one of those people who eat what pigs find arent you, marks, or buckslut?
MTR @191
“Sometime in the next few weeks, OBL will release a video tape laughing at us and pointing his finger and saying GWB is at fault for all this.”
I understand the Homeland Security folks have a tape of OBL claiming responsibility for Katrina…
lol
markus…
ASS U-R…Um, what?
I just checked my email, and I’m still waiting.
The silence is deafening. Do you have the courage to call me unpatriotic to my face? Hell, do you even have the courage to reveal your real name or even give out an email? Don’t worry, I don’t bite. I just have a very honed skill for exposing people who are full of shit. If you don’t believe me, you can read this.
Of course, as Ann Coulter is being dropped from newspapers coast-to-coast recently, I’m not alone. -Comment by thehim— 9/4/05 @ 6:27 pm
Point 1:
Are you out of your everloving MIND?
You’re absolutely right – you haven’t heard from me, nor will you… You are an absolute stranger who says ugly things to other absolute strangers on the internet for pleasure (as, admitedly, we do all) and there is no way on God’s green earth meet you or give you my name… and quite frankly, you are stupid to have given it to me and the blockheads reading it.
Do you really want scary nut cases like Lucy knowing who you are?
Point 2: I’ve heard of exacty ONE newspaper declining to carry Coulter – tell me the others.
BunnyButt — you’re the only legal mind I have available to me at the moment, so if you can, please answer a question: If Pres. Bush puts forth an EXISTING Supreme Court Justice for Chief, does he (yes, he: the chance of it being Ruth is ZERO, and we all know it) have to go through confirmation again?
If the people on this board ever met face to face, how would we talk to each other? -Comment by Karmalyzed— 9/4/05 @ 6:25 pm
I meant…. if all of us were in a room together….. not just a few invited folks…. would people speak to each other like they do on this board? -Comment by Karmalyzed— 9/4/05 @ 7:44 pm
I believe that “blogging” has the built in safety of anonymity.
We all know and like (sometimes even love) folks that are our political opposites. The difference is, we have the opportunity to judge them on many other characteristics in addition to their political ideology. We don’t have that luxury here.
I wonder how Georgia does it?
I wonder how Gerogia is able to provide adequate highway infrastructure on a 7.5 cent a gallon gas tax? As a point of reference, Washington currently collects 31 cents a gallon.
YES, OVER 4 TIME THE GAS TAX A GEORGIA.
In the last 3 years I have driven a couple thousand miles or so on Georgia highways and they are BETTER than the highways in Washington.
Please is someone knows how Georgia does it, tell me? Do they have a monster motor vehicle excise tax like Seattle does? Do they have a monster motor vehicle use tax like Washington does?
I wonder how California does it? I wonder how California can have the highway infrastructure they have on, as of Jan 03, 10 cents a gallon LESS gas tax than Washington?
A snippet from an eloquent-cum-cynical summation from Rude Pundit:
“And now that the President has been injected with the mad array of chemicals that are needed to jump start his brain like the coughing, oil-leaking lawnmower motor that it is, he declares that “The results [of the relief effort] are not acceptable.” And that’s great, but they were also unacceptable on Tuesday, when Bush was making one of his worthless piece of shit speeches about how mighty a battle the Iraq War is, just like World War II or some such nonsense. But the Bush adminstration has broken the basic social contract in New Orleans, the one that goes all the way back to Thomas Hobbes and John Locke, the one that says we adhere to laws because you agree to protect us, and thus the city and its citizens have returned to the state of nature, which is to survive, motherfuckers, just survive.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com.....efore.html
buck slut. someone who is a slut to a buck… like republicans.
Times Picayune says ACE has plugged the biggest breach in the levy and it’s holding for now.
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Have you been watching reruns of Clinton and the intern. You donks… your mind is always in the gutter.
jc bob @198,
“I wonder how California does it? I wonder how California can have the highway infrastructure they have on, as of Jan 03, 10 cents a gallon LESS gas tax than Washington?”
Simple: they suck you for income taxes…Perhaps that is what WA needs? Make it all good…
ANYONE HERE EVER SEEN “A TIME TO KILL”?
Remember the line? “Now imagine she’s white…”
That’s what we had in this country, early on in this disaster.
All/most of us watched TV, and didn’t even know we were racist. Come Wednesday, or Thursday at the latest, we were all/mostly ashamed.
Now we find out that DHS prohibited (is still prohibiting??) the Red Cross from entering New Orleans – racism or stupidity? I’ve heard Chertoff claim DHS is not stupid…
Guiliani could have done a better job than Nagin? Let’s disect that one: 9/11’s damage was confined to a limited area of the city; water and electricity were available at all times at the perimeter of the site; his victims were mostly Republican, mostly white, mostly middle- and upper-class; he also failed to evacute the 2nd tower, allowed the firemen and police to go on suicide missions….
Nagin, on the other hand, had several days’ warning; he knew the demographics of his population, and proclivities of his police force; had no phone or water or electricity…
Mixed bag on this one – but one thing is clear…anyone who says or writes that Nagin’s no Guliani – label that person a racist, too. There is no similarity at all between these two events.
Just one question– to any and all conservatives: What happened to your idea of taking “personal responsibility”? I’ve seen nothing but attempts to shift the blame to the victims, state and local Democrat politicians in the affected areas. Anyone but the lame-ass president who defunded FEMA, defunded the levee improvement and maintenance. He did EVERYTHING WRONG and you blather on heedlessly. You’re all insane. But nothing that a few savage cracks with a baseball bat wouldn’t cure.
Make no mistake about it: Many are willing to do this to stop the Republican noise machine. Maybe we’ll lure you to a flag burning and then beat the living shit out of you. Not all of us are like Cindy Shehan. There’s a limit to the crap I’m willing to take. I’ve shouted down some of your loudmouthed brethren who dared to confront me and watched them scurry in fear.
198 – Georgia also charges a 4% sales tax on top of gas. Georgia’s population is also a little over 2 million greater than Washington’s.
I’m with you , Lucy. Let’s fuck ’em up!!!!!!!
Lucy – Tell us about the alphabet technique. Did it work? Did you remember the “not painting fence” part?
Lucy,
HATRED is as big a problem as ignorance. They feed on each other.
OK Moonbats, let’s hear it. This gonna be great…
Subsidiary of Hallburton is getting one of first cleanup jobs in Gulf. Read story in PI.
If George Bush crapped gold bars and handed one to every single hurricane victim, and then he raised the dead and parted the flood waters and turned the power back on and resurrected the Beatles and got them back together and lowered the price of oil to two cents per barrel and invented a cure for cancer while farting Chopin nocturnes and turning the oceans into chilled Dom Perignon and the beaches into caviar, liberals would STILL find reason to bitch.
-Steve H. HogOnIce.com
HEY! All you filthy mouthed jerks (if the shoe fits, wear it)! It doesn’t matter which party is in charge–this was a disgrace! And as Americans you should be ashamed of the total failure of our government to help and protect our fellow citizens. I bet a lot of you would be yelling your heads off if you were in the situation that the victims in New Orleans have been in for the past week!
We don’t live in Louisiana–where a majority of the people are poorly educated, and live below the poverty level. We don’t know what economic shape their state, or the city of New Orleans is in. We don’t know if those school buses in the flooded parking lot, were in drivable condition, if they had fuel to run on, or even if they belonged to a school district.
You can all say what you would or would not do in the face of an emergency, but until you experience it, I’d suggest that you’d just be blowing a lot of hot air!
I’m embarassed to be an American–oh, yeah, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!
Reply to 209
If George W. Bush did any of those things, he’d be a Democrat, and you’d call him a commie.
Reply to 209 (continued)
“Comment by Puget Sound Politics, nah, you should rename this site BushHatred.org”
Hey shit-fer-brains, as long as Nazis like you hate us liberals, we have every right to hate your ilk! Go fuck yourself.
New Orleans. You’re just “bitching” according to 209. I’m so pissed at conservatives I swear I’ll throttle one who tries to say this kind of crap in my face.
Comment on 204
I see the potential for aluminum bats to take flag burning to a whole new level!
Not that I would ever burn a flag, but I sure get tired of the Republicas wrapping themselves in it — while they spit on everything it stands for.
@213
Make sure he starts it so you can claim self-defense.
Reply to 185
“Fuck you Rabbit.”
Yes! Yes! Please God yes! :D :D :D (but only cute fluffy female bunnies need apply; no sewer rat Republicans)
“I’m not gonna let you mischaracterize me. I never said there was no place for gummint.”
You didn’t? You sure as shit fooled me!
“My bitch is against the freeloaders of society who want me to pay all their goddam bills while they run around free of the consequences of their lifetime of stupid choices.”
When did you turn against your Republican pals? Did you have an epiphany and finally see them (and yourself) as they really are? Decided to quite the F R E E L O A D E R party, did you? Welcome to the real world, Mark!
Reply to 186
“Hey Rabbit – you bitch all the time about being poor.”
Um … no. Never. Not once. Maybe I’m “poor” by your definition, but I’ve never complained about being “poor.”
As for the rest, number one, DOL doesn’t license attorneys, the State Supreme Court does. Number two, I’m not gonna give you my real name so you can look me up on the state bar association web site. Number three, I don’t give a flying fuck what you believe about me.
Goldy. This forum is disgusting. Not worth reading it any more. I got kicked out off Sharkansky’s board for saying a single wrong word, “coward”, describing the host when he refused to address my question about the legitimacy of Israel. Cut these shit-talking rightwingers off the board and rebuild your participants list. PS: God hates George Bush.
Reply to 187
Is that a complaint? Republicans have been talking about liberals like this for decades, and you’re complaining because we do it back? No, I don’t we would talk this way to each other if we were in a room together. The first fucker that called me a commie to my face, I would take action, time for talk about be past.
Reply to 191
No Mark, you’re confused. YOU are America’s enemy.
Oh, before I forget, one more thing Mark —
FUCK YOU
FUCK THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON
FUCK YOUR SUV TOO
FUCK YOUR DOG
FUCK YOUR CAT
FUCK YOUR GOLDFISH
oh and did I mention … FUCK YOU!!!
Neo-Con = Terrorist against America
Neo-Con Symp = Terrorist against America enabeler
Republicans who refuse to rid their party of the Fascist Neo-Cons = Traitor
Progressive Liberal = Patriot defending America
This is not new math, it is as old as our forfathers. The founders of the USA would take up arms against this new King George and his benifactors.
OK we’re talking taxes again. Many years ago, when I moved here from NY I was surprised by the many taxes and fees. Alcohol, vehicle excise, and others. But we do not have income taxes. Look at the total picture. That was and remains the falict of the $30 car tab issue. looking at a piece of the picture (is a certain fee justifies) makes no sense without looking at all fees and taxes. If you have the highest sales tax, but no income tax, so what. look at the package.
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Just give the liberals a good porno movie.
MTR: Man you be on a roll today.
Rufus: Their donk minds are a terrible thing.
Karmalyzed: You waste pixels on Mr. Loocy.
ProudAss: Now that’s funny.
MTR: Ouch on the Crazy Wabbit. Roger, sometimes you post interesting things, other times udder bullshit. So I too await MTR’s accreditation request.
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Donna- Your a donk and know nothing about math. You donks can’t count ballots right so your equations mean nothing.
Here is an equation for you:
20004 presidential winner = GW Bush
Nuff said
@227
Are you talking about rabbit porn? Seriously, are you?
@54
As an employer I can tell you the only thing worse than hiring a former government worker is hiring a Boeing Machinist. those idiots don’t have a clue about the real meaning of work. (don’t believe me just look at don…..and speaking of don)
don at 225
Democrats are members of the party without ideas or as I like to refer to them as Hypo-cogs (short for Hypo-cognitives)It has a nice ring to it doesn’t it.
K@ 226
Okay that’s great but I think what we all want is a tax system that treats everyone fairly. Our current tax structure places too high of a burden on the poor in this state. This past legislative session was highlighted by new taxes that will further penalize the poor (gas tax, beer tax and the soda tax)
This state needs an income tax but, as Ron Sims can tell you that dog won’t hunt in this state. Neither the Democrats or the Republican are willing to tackle that issue. As long as this issue remains unsolved neither party can claim that it is the “progressive party” within this state.
@228
Wanna see my credentials? Click here http://www.spacetownusa.com/jm.....20bird.jpg
“Disaster relief? You want disaster relief? I’ll show you disaster relief …” http://politicalhumor.about.co.....finger.htm
I just got the following email from Robert:
Oh, oh.. I can’t wait till we finally get into the streets and start the great purge. Horses ass piece of shit liberal opportunists will rue the day.
Fuck you shitface. -by Goldy, 09/03/2005, 5:18 PM
Make no mistake about it: Many are willing to do this to stop the Republican noise machine. Maybe we’ll lure you to a flag burning and then beat the living shit out of you. Not all of us are like Cindy Shehan. There’s a limit to the crap I’m willing to take. I’ve shouted down some of your loudmouthed brethren who dared to confront me and watched them scurry in fear. -Comment by headless lucy— 9/4/05 @ 9:09 pm
Right.
So what’s the difference between the 2… besides their ideology?
Point 1:
Are you out of your everloving MIND?
You’re absolutely right – you haven’t heard from me, nor will you… You are an absolute stranger who says ugly things to other absolute strangers on the internet for pleasure (as, admitedly, we do all) and there is no way on God’s green earth meet you or give you my name… and quite frankly, you are stupid to have given it to me and the blockheads reading it.
Do you really want scary nut cases like Lucy knowing who you are?
ASS,
I’ve given you my real name and my email address. I want to meet you in person so that you can look me in the eye and tell me that I don’t love my country. Are you prepared to do that? Do you have the courage to do that? Because I sure as hell have the courage to do the same with you. I am very prepared to meet you somewhere, in public, where I can explain to you how you don’t give a fuck about this country. I’m not a violent person, I’m just a very patriotic individual that’s not happy with assholes like you that are destroying what generations of Americans before us have built up. If you want to stay anonymous, fine. But realize that that decision is based on cowardice, and nothing else. When you’re ready to be a real American, email me. Otherwise, you’re a sad, sad, human being, questioning other people’s patriotism behind a wall of anonymity.
@234
Of course he doesn’t — like all yellow back Republicans, he’s a cowardly blowhard. His refusal to take up your offer proves it! Republicans don’t know how to cope with liberals who talk back. When they talk tough, we talk tougher. When they threaten, we say come and get us. Look at the schoolyard bullies run!
You have aligned yourself with the folks that claim EVERYTIME America is wrong, America is evil, America owes, America should apologize, and on and on and on.
You have aligned yourself with the ilk of that stupid, brainwashed child, Rachel Corrie, burning her own flag on foreign soil.
You have aligned yourself with the jerks like former presidents Clinton and Carter who insult and demean their own country on foreign soil.
You have aligned yourself with the Hollywood jerks who come right out and admit they hate this country, that swoon over malignant dictators like Castro and that beast from Venezuela.
Not one time, never, have I seen you denounce that behaviour.
So don’t give me your ‘love the soldier, BUT hate the war’ bullshit or ‘love my country BUT hey my guys can tear it down wherever, whenever as long as it make the other guy look bad’ bullshit.
Don’t slap me then try to tell me you love me like some abusive jerk. Don’t continually spit at my country and then tell me you love it.
I don’t believe you.
And you want to call me coward because I won’t “meet you”, you go for it pal. I have seen how the people you align yourself with behave toward their ideological opposites, here in anonymity and on the streets of Seattle and I am not stupid enough to expose myself to it, my children to it, nor the rest of my family to it. Your compadres in ideology like “Maybe we’ll lure you to a flag burning and then beat the living shit out of you” Lucy are reason enough for that wariness. You’re judged by the company you keep, pal. And not decrying their behaviour is the same as sanctioning it.
Roger,
It’s the sad truth. You know that I’m not afraid to put my views on the line. Yet everywhere I go, and everything I do, whether it’s inviting Righton out for a few drinks, or even getting an email address from ASS, all I get is cowardice. The group of folks who somehow think they’re the inheritors of a legacy of bravery established by our founding fathers are just a bunch of bedwetters that can’t even give me their name. That’s sad, and it’s why America will probably be bowing down to the Europeans and the Chinese for the 21st century. It was a great country we had here, too bad that Rush Limbaugh convinced us that it was ok to be lazy, drug addicts as long as we followed President Bush.
You know that I’m not afraid to put my views on the line.-Comment by thehim— 9/5/05 @ 1:14 am
You think that makes you brave?
Then the very same criteria applies to every single conservative that has stood up to be counted on this blog.
Sounds like he thinks hiding behind anonymity while calling people unpatriotic makes you a coward.
You have aligned yourself with the folks that claim EVERYTIME America is wrong, America is evil, America owes, America should apologize, and on and on and on.
I do? When? I’ve already pointed you to my blog, feel free to dig up examples. And guess what, sometimes America IS wrong. That’s life. No one is perfect. And it doesn’t mean that America isn’t great. It just means that America is run by people who are imperfect. What you don’t understand is that it’s important for when America is wrong, that the rest of the world understands that America RECOGNIZES that it was wrong. That is what has allowed us to become the leader of the free world.
You have aligned yourself with the ilk of that stupid, brainwashed child, Rachel Corrie, burning her own flag on foreign soil.
How exactly have you come to that conclusion? I have relatives in Israel. I believe that both sides in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict share the blame for the mess that they’re in. Rachel Corrie did not speak for me, and I don’t speak for her. She was an individual who felt she was fighting for oppressed people. And despite the fact that my dad’s cousin is a fucking nurse in Tel Aviv, I understand that there is a reason for Palestinians to be upset with how they’ve been treated. Get a goddamn clue.
You have aligned yourself with the jerks like former presidents Clinton and Carter who insult and demean their own country on foreign soil.
How? Can you please explain. If you want to actually educate yourself on the Middle East, instead of just being some jackass blowhard, maybe you can start by reading Ken Pollack’s book on Iran. Ken Pollack was the man who wrote the book “The Gathering Storm,” which was used as a primary justification for why we had to invade Iraq. Yet, even he explains that Carter and Clinton were two of the better American Presidents in dealing with the Middle East. Sorry, your fantasy world doesn’t quite match up with reality. Try again.
You have aligned yourself with the Hollywood jerks who come right out and admit they hate this country, that swoon over malignant dictators like Castro and that beast from Venezuela.
Who? Exactly which Hollywood jerks have I aligned myself with who have also swooned over Castro? My blog is right here. Feel free to read through the archives.
Not one time, never, have I seen you denounce that behaviour.
What behavior? What the fuck are you talking about? You have been brainwashed by people who are fooling you in order to make money. Do you really believe that people like Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh believe what they say? They are professional bullshitters who have gotten rich off of the stupidity of people like you.
I grew up in a heavily Republican area on the East Coast. Do you think any of those people believe what they say? Hell no! They say what they say because it enables them to keep getting rich off of clueless fucktards like yourself. All those pharmaceutical execs in the Philly suburbs I grew up in just laugh at how easy it is to convince stupid fucks like you that national health care will make you poor.
So don’t give me your ‘love the soldier, BUT hate the war’ bullshit or ‘love my country BUT hey my guys can tear it down wherever, whenever as long as it make the other guy look bad’ bullshit.
Exactly how bad of a situation does Iraq have to become before you understand why people like myself were opposed to it? We’re basically Iran’s greatest ally right now because we’ve enabled the radical Shiite minority to gain power and roll back a lot of the secularism that occurred under Saddam. Iraq is now much more of a terrorist threat than it ever was, and people like me WARNED ABOUT THIS IN 2002! If there’s anyone who’s patriotism should be questioned regarding Iraq, it’s you.
Don’t slap me then try to tell me you love me like some abusive jerk. Don’t continually spit at my country and then tell me you love it.
Exactly when have I spit at my country? I’m asking for an example. You can’t give me one. Why? Because you’re full of shit, and you have no leg to stand on. One example. That’s all I’m asking. I’ve pointed you to the blog. Go to it.
I don’t believe you.
You’re a mental midget.
And you want to call me coward because I won’t “meet you”, you go for it pal.
Sure, I’ll do it again. You’re a coward, and you’re a disgrace to your country.
I have seen how the people you align yourself with behave toward their ideological opposites, here in anonymity and on the streets of Seattle and I am not stupid enough to expose myself to it, my children to it, nor the rest of my family to it.
You’re still very much missing a very important point here. I’m not on the far-left. I’m a moderate. I oppose gun control. I support the death penalty. I oppose affirmative action. I wrote a long post recently about how the smoking initiative is wrong and how the NCAA’s initiative to ban mascots is a disgrace. Keep thinking I’m some far-left radical, and you’ll continue to make yourself look dumber.
Your compadres in ideology like “Maybe we’ll lure you to a flag burning and then beat the living shit out of you” Lucy are reason enough for that wariness. You’re judged by the company you keep, pal. And not decrying their behaviour is the same as sanctioning it.
Bullshit. Until you can pull anything out of my blog archives that indicates that I support flag burning, then you’re just blowing hot air. There aren’t two clear sides to the political debate where I’m aligned with everyone who happens to agree that the FEMA effort in New Orleans was bungled or that Iraq was a mistake. There are stupid people on the left, and stupid people on the right. And you’re stupider than all of them. By far.
You think that makes you brave?
Then the very same criteria applies to every single conservative that has stood up to be counted on this blog.
Some conservatives are not afraid to stand up, in person, representing their views. People like Marks, and even Righton, have courage behind their convictions. You don’t. And that’s why you’re a disgrace.
Well, I’m heading to bed now. ASS, if you want to defend your accusations of my lack of patriotism, I’ll be checking my email in the morning. Once again, my email address is thehim66@hotmail.com. If you’re not comfortable doing that in person, we can do it over email. Either way, what I’ve seen this week has gone beyond simple disappointment, and I want to find out why you’re not as worried about the competence of the Federal Government as I am right now. I feel there needs to be a call to action to make sure that this country never has leadership this poor ever again. There are a lot of people from either the Democratic or Republican Parties who I would trust to run this country. George Bush is not one of them, and that is a decision I have made clearly out of patriotism.
and now the administration is nominating roberts as ‘chief justice’. kind of scary..life will change with this embarassing presidents frequent knee service to big business and big religion.
Roger Rabbit @ 215
Glad to see you have the mental ability to rise all the way to name calling!
re 2: …. BLACK POT!
“NUFF SAID”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DRIBBLYPUD
Mr Loocy, using my moniker? You are so full of pithy comments. What school did you attend?
puddy—
I think loocy went to P.U.!!!
Or more likely to Evergreen College…home of Ecologists with no hard science classes!!
This is interesting. July 24th 2005, the mayor of NO says to potential flood victims you are on your own:
rawstory.com/news/2005/July_2005_article_reveals_Red_Cross_told_poor_Youre_on_your_o_0902.html
Is this the way HA people think? Help me understand lefties in WA State? Clueless, Donnageddon, Torridjoe, DJ, David, GBS, Windie, et. al. is this the way you all think about a person broken down on the road? If so you all are sickos!
http://www.democraticundergrou.....15;4582698
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No.
PacMan, only one. Dr E. I commend you. The rest are like my words in another thread. FU!!!
If I was dumb enough to buy or build a home that was 6 or 8 feet below sea level, and a flood that had been predicted for years, put my place under water, why in the Hell should American taxpayers foot the bill for my stupidity? This whole area that is going to be flooded again, (it has to happen, it would take 20 years to build sea-walls high enough to protect them), should be bulldozed flat, made into city parks and golf courses and horse race tracks. Stop making me pay for dumb folks that are so stupid that they decide to live where water will again flood their homes. If they decide to rebuild again, make them sign a waiver that it won’t cost the taxpayer one dime to rebuild their slum-homes. Next, fire the mayor, who screwed up, big time. Then can the Governor, she blew it because it would look bad for the next election. Move New Orleans 50 miles inland, and stop asking me to foot the bill for living below the level of the lake and river. How dumb can you be? Once we bail them out, they will expect us to do it again, and again, and again!
Ferryadoon Tabibsidah, a naturalized citizen of the USA, and don’t want to pay for stupid decisions of others.
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