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by Goldy — Monday, 8/6/07, 12:21 am

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  1. 1

    PuffyButtPretendingToBeBlackSays spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 5:48 am

    This will no doubt really get the wingnuts’ heads spinning on their necks:)

  2. 2

    PuffyButtPretendingToBeBlackSays spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 5:55 am

    One thing that’s different about Handjob Hannity and Kos is that Kos went to Gulf War I and saw combat while Handjob Hannity had OTHER PRIORITIES.

  3. 3

    PuffyButtPretendingToBeBlackSays spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 6:12 am

    There are some more great videos here.

    http://www.politicstv.com/blog/?cat=164

  4. 4

    busdrivermike spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 7:04 am

    Just remember, the presidential candidate that voted for the war, and has not apologized for it, will probably be Hillary Clinton

    And most people who read this blog will happily march to the polls to vote for her, just like they did for Cantwell.

    So aren’t you people part of the problem, not the solution?

  5. 5

    PuffyButtPretendingToBeBlackSays spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 7:06 am

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20137021/

    Here’s what happens when you allow an AWOL, coke-snortin, drunk-driving coward to be the COMMANDER AND THIEF.

    Way to go Monkeyface. Yeah I feel safer. Sure I do. Combine this with the fact that you still aren’t sure what happened in New Orleans and your time spent reading MY PET GOAT and we see how competent you and your ilk are.

    I guess you don’t have to worry about finding those guns. After all, you never did find your precious WMD did you?

    FUCKING IDIOTS!

  6. 6

    PuffyButtPretendingToBeBlackSays spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 7:09 am

    HOPEYOU’RE NOT DRIVING MY BUS MIKE – you forget one small detail. Senator Clinton said she’d END the bullshit war in Iraq. Something your boy Monkeyface doesn’t ever plan to do.

    ANYONE in the Democratic party who gets elected to the White House will do a better job of getting us out of Iraq than anyone from the party that put us there.

    By the way, not that a WINGNUT ever cares about facts, but Senator Clinton didn’t vote for the war. There was no war vote. She voted to authorize the use of military force in a limited circumstance that Baby Bush used to declare an unauthorized war.

  7. 7

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 7:26 am

    Poor Albert Gonzales, caught lying to Congress again. It’s so sad that his handlers don’t give him truthful things to say.

  8. 8

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 8:13 am

    Gotta give the Democrat controlled congress credit, they are doing their best to make bush look good. Even going as far as making sure their poll numbers are below his.
      
    -The democrats insisted they received a mandate from the people to end the war, yet all they did was authorize the surge.
    -The democrats cried that bush is trampling all over our 4th amendment rights, yet they just signed the new FISA act, giving bush more authority to wiretap.
    -The democrats chanted impeachment, yet their leaders (pelosi, reid, etc) say it’s not even on the table.
    -The democrats lied about the republican culture of corruption, yet their little vote stealing act was caught on CSpan last Friday.
    -No doubt the democrats on this board believe bush lied us into the war, yet they completely ignore the same lies by their democrat leaders before and during the 15 month long “rush” to war.
      
      
    No need to reply, Bush doesn’t want you too, and we all know that democrats do what bush wants them to.

  9. 9

    PuffyButtPretendingToBeBlackSays spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 8:20 am

    Marvin The Stammerin Fool

    a. The Dems can’t end the war until they have a veto-proof majority. Thanks for helping to remind us that we need to finish that job. According to the polls, it looks like that won’t be a problem.

    b. The Dems didn’t go far enough in stopping Bush from defeating the Constitution, but they did put SOME checks and balances in place that will help keep him and Rove from using the law the way they really want to – which is to spy on their POLITICAL enemies, not AMERICA’s enemies.

    c. Impeachment is STILL AN OPTION. Be carefuly what you wish for cunt.

    d. Lied? Perhaps you need to look at the roster of new federal prisoners, defendants and indictees – all Publican proof of Publican corruption. As for vote stealing – only Ohio and Florida need be looked at to see that Publicans need to steal to win. The Dems shutting off debate on a bill is no different than when you traitors extended debate to change the outcome when you didn’t like it. We’re just following your example.

    e. The only real Democrats that believed we should go to war with Iraq believed that because of lies told by Bush. They shouldn’t have been so stupid as to think a Publican is even capable of recognizing, yet telling the truth.

    f. DEMOCRATS in Congress have a 48% approval rating compared to the AWOL coward Bush who has a 30% approval.

    But keep dreaming bitch – maybe if you keep your head in the sand long enough, you won’t notice America moving further FROM the right.

  10. 10

    robin spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 8:30 am

    female morning anchor on MSNBC just called Fred Thompson a “cradle robber.” Then went on about the 20 year age difference. Also referenced the Vanity Fair article re “Judith” not Judi Giuliani. Wonder has all this will play out in the heartland of gopper country!

  11. 11

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 8:34 am

    #10 robin says:

    female morning anchor on MSNBC just called Fred Thompson a “cradle robber.” Then went on about the 20 year age difference. Also referenced the Vanity Fair article re “Judith” not Judi Giuliani. Wonder has all this will play out in the heartland of gopper country!

     
    Nothing like liberal bias in the media. What do they call it, the politics of personal destruction?

  12. 12

    robin spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:01 am

    11.) Marvin,

    I don’t base any voting decisions on the private lives of candidates. I really could care less. The interesting part of this for me to watch is how’s Rudy going to handle say the abstinence only until marriage crap in the GOP platform? You assholes talk a big game, I think your just a bunch of greedy hypocrites, hint, hint Clinton.

    Oh, I just love that “liberal bias in the media,” hell it’s about time they start report fair and balanced coverage!

  13. 13

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:06 am

    @4 What’s your next spew, that the GOP is the peace party?

  14. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:07 am

    @4 (continued) Hillary may be less than perfect in the eyes of many Democrats; but the worst Democrat is infinitely preferable to the best Republican in the eyes of all Democrats.

  15. 15

    PuffyButtPretendingToBeBlackSays spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:09 am

    Did everyone notice how the Publicans RAN AS FAST AS THEY COULD from Bush during their so-called debate on Sunday? Nobody in the GOP wants to be closely tied to the least popular President since Trickie Dickie – oh yeah, he was a Publican too!

  16. 16

    PuffyButtPretendingToBeBlackSays spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:11 am

    Here’s some Publican family values for you…

    Rompin Rudy has had at least three wives we know of (one being a cousin) and had an affair on his last wife while “managing” 9.11 – his own kids won’t speak to him.

    Newt The Hoot Gingrich admitted having an affair whith his intern – while – you guessed it – attacking President Clinton over Monica.

    Bob Livingston Publican Speaker of the House had to step down for having an affair.

    Mark Foley was chasing the pee-pees of little boys serving as pages in the Publican-controlled House.

    Moralist Senator Vitter did the GOP proud by visiting hookers while his ugly wife sat home wondering where he was.

  17. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:13 am

    @#11 So if some anchor or host tells the truth about wingnut sycophants, liars, and hypocrites it’s media “bias” but when the shouting wingnut haters who dominate the airwaves and print media lie for the Liar Party you guys call it the “truth”? No wonder Alice thinks she’s back in Wonderland again.

  18. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:14 am

    @12 “I don’t base any voting decisions on the private lives of candidates.”

    I do, and that automatically eliminates the GOP field, most of whom are adulterers.

  19. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:15 am

    And these flaming hypocrites castigate Clinton for getting a blowjob from an intern …

  20. 20

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:16 am

    @16 Don’t forget to mention that Newt cheated on his wife while she lay dying of cancer in a hospital.

  21. 21

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:17 am

    Probably the only reason Newt didn’t divorce his wife for getting sick was because he wouldn’t inherit her money.

  22. 22

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:19 am

    Marvin Stamn is so silly. His party is corrupt to the core.

    The Dems have problems for sure but we can do something about that. And we will.

    Where are the people going to turn to move this country forward AWAY from failed policies like Iraq, No Contractor Left Behind?

    The Republicans?

    That’s just too silly for words.

  23. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:20 am

    Here’s a handy-dandy voting guide for all you family-values voters out there! http://quinnell.us/politics/family.html

  24. 24

    Tlazolteotl spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:21 am

    I just watched the video clip of Darcy Burner at YKos talking about the passage of the extension of the expanded FISA bill….she said “it sucks.”

    Hell yeah! I think I will have to send her some love$$ just for that quote.

    And yes, @8, the first two points are true; the third and fourth not; the fifth only partly. This is why we need to reward more progressive (=better) candidates, and punish enablers. We made a good start in 2006 with Jim Webb, especially. We need to work to help Darcy Burner and get rid of Congressman Looked-Green-River-Gary-in-the-eye enabler-his-whole-career Reichert locally. And hopefully the folks in other states (hello, Nevada! Calling you, Connecticut!) will work to get rid of their enablers too.

  25. 25

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:21 am

    Stamm isn’t silly, he’s employed. His real name is Kevin Carns.

  26. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:28 am

    Carns, for those of you who don’t know, is not only a professional troll who frequently posts on HA under various screen names (e.g., “Angry Voter”), but is also the scumbag who was behind last year’s fake sex offender mailings. Carns has no ethics whatsoever. And yes, BIAW bankrolls his (fat) paychecks.

  27. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:41 am

    Who Is Arming Iraqi Insurgents?

    “Pentagon loses track of firearms sent to Iraq

    “By Glenn Kessler
    “The Washington Post

    “WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has lost track of about 190,000 AK-47 assault rifles and pistols given to Iraqi security forces in 2004 and 2005, according to a new government report, raising fears that some of those weapons have fallen into the hands of insurgents fighting U.S. forces in Iraq.”

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....rms06.html

    Any questions?

  28. 28

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:42 am

    His real name is Kevin Carns.

    Could be, could be. Yesterday he (as Stamn) crapped out some lame talking points from big oil and coal about global warming.

    Could Carns be that stupid?

  29. 29

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:47 am

    And most people who read this blog will happily march to the polls to vote for her, just like they did for Cantwell.

    Whoa, hold on a minute. You mean we should have handed Cantwell’s seat to McGavick?

    I don’t support Hillary but no way am I handing the White House to another lazy actor like Fred Thompson or a laughingstock corrupt bastard like Guiliani.

  30. 30

    No main stream bias...nope none at all spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:52 am

    Top 100 Liberal Political Websites of 2007

    MSNBC (part of MSN) – 2
    BBC (UK) – 35
    ABC (part of go.com) – 48
    CNN – 76
    New York Times – 185
    Reuters – 513
    The Guardian (UK) – 544
    Washington Post – 616
    San Francisco Chronicle – 1,051
    NBC – 1,148
    Los Angeles Times – 1,219
    Time Magazine – 1,198
    Boston Globe – 1,223
    CBC News (Canadian) – 1,661
    Slate – 1,777
    Salon – 1,837
    Indymedia – 2,152
    PBS – 2,308
    CBS News – 2,462
    BuzzFlash – 2,767
    Huffington Post – 2,804
    Arizona Republic – 3,163
    NPR – 3,304
    New York Daily News – 4,542
    Daily Kos – 4,878
    Raw Story – 5,309
    CNBC – 6,366
    Alternet – 8,629
    Democratic Underground – 12,107
    Inter-American Commission on Human Rights – 13,492
    The New Yorker – 13,710
    Village Voice – 14,201
    Amnesty International – 15,099
    Talking Points Memo – 16,788
    Michael Moore – 17,148
    Common Dreams – 17,441
    Wonkette – 21,483
    BartCop – 22,945
    The Nation – 23,911
    CounterPunch – 24,640
    Truthout – 26,300
    Now Toronto (Canada) – 27,504
    Bad Subjects – 29,435
    Information Clearing House – 30,140
    TPM Café – 31,030
    Move on – 32,735
    Zmag – 33,906
    World Socialists – 34,162
    Newsweek – 38,205
    Washington Monthly – 43,499
    New Republic – 40,077
    Air America – 40,749
    Planned Parenthood – 46,228
    Harper’s – 47,126
    Robert Scheer’s TruthDig – 47,661
    Eschaton – 48,706
    Mother Jones – 50,085
    Buzz Machine – 50,547
    My DD – 51,378
    Derechos Human Rights – 52,561 (Spain)
    OneWorld – 55,443
    Open Secrets – 58,878
    ACLU – 61,687
    Paul Harvey – 61,992
    Anti-Defamation League – 74,850
    American Prospect – 77,025
    Democrat National Committee – 79,312
    Reporters Without Borders – 80,352
    Informed Comment – 85,093
    Spiked Online – 99,997
    Smirking Chimp – 89,759
    New Statesman – 90,768
    Talk Left – 104,237
    Dave Cullen – 115,949
    Democrats.com – 123,578
    Working for Change – 123,870
    Lyndon LaRouche’s Executive Intelligence Review – 124,728
    The Drudge Retort – 125,053
    Andrew Sullivan – 129,099
    Human Rights Campaign – 129,463
    FAIR – 133,841
    Fact Check – 139,642
    New Internationalist – 141,615
    Indymedia Ireland (Ireland) – 141,980
    Le Monde (France – in English) – 142,655
    Tom Paine – 150,510
    Progressive Wisdom – 156,531
    Utne Reader – 162,915
    Southern Poverty Law Center – 164,462
    The Randi Rhodes Show – 164,539
    Greg Palast – 167,347
    Third World Traveler – 170,882
    Project for the Old American Century – 175,464
    The Progressive – 176,598
    Asian Human Rights Commission (Asia) – 180,797
    Counter Currents – 192,860
    Workers of the World Unite – 197,872
    Cursor – 200,402
    Urban Institute – 210,391
    Global Exchange – 217,454
    Roll Call – 224,985
    Corporate Watch – 225,947
    National Organization of Women – 238,371
    GLAAD – 247,173
    Stay Free Magazine – 251,512
    The Stephanie Miller Show – 266,999
    Schwartz Report – 267,153
    No Peace Without Justice – 270,335
    Consortium News – 276,153
    Brookings Institute – 283,197
    International Federation of Human Rights Leagues – 291,686
    Rabble.ca (Canada) – 296,143
    Act Blue – 299,537
    The Globalist – 325,874
    Carter Center – 328,027
    Irregular Times – 328,765
    Lies – 329,289
    Brady Campaign – 349,535
    Roger L. Simon – 391,751
    Human Rights First – 410,484
    Angry Bear – 423,484
    Feminist Majority – 427,949
    Media Transparency – 458,097

  31. 31

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:54 am

    “So they’ll prosecute me if I wear my Army uniforms to an anti-war protest? Really?
    ….
    And anyone that thinks otherwise, quite frankly, is legitimately and objectively un-American.”

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....42332/0502

    “The thing is, every soldier knows that you don’t take part in politics while you’re in your uniform.  It’s not only highly inappropriate—it’s also illegal”

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....3940/86488

    This is why the liberals believe they win arguments, they flip flop as needed to win.
      
    Kinda like how democrats think it’s okay to be gay, until they find a gay republican, then they point the finger and laugh.
    Or how sex is a personal matter, until a republican has sex outside of marriage.
    How shameful it was for bush to try and avoid the war, but not caring when it was clinton doing his best to stay out of the army.
    Or how it’s okay for Barney Frank to run a gay prostitution business out of his house, but point at Vitter for having sex with a prostitute.
    And the best one is how democrats point at clinton as an example, they did it to clinton, we’ll do it back to you.

  32. 32

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:55 am

    “Pakistani protesters burn a U.S. flag to condemn U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s remarks…”

    http://news.yahoo.com/photo/07.....0208031314
     
    He’s not even president, not that the racists in the democrat party would ever elect him, but I digress, he’s not even the president and he’s making the world hate us. Bush at least waited until he was president.

  33. 33

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 9:56 am

    Swiftboating John Kerry-
     
    John recounts a story a hundred times about being on the river on christmas eve under the orders of nixon. It’s “seared” into his memory. The swifboaters easily prove it’s a lie because nixon wasn’t even in power at the time. (funny how the alleged conservative biased media never brought this up in 3 decades)
     
    John tells his story about throwing his medals over the white house fence in protest only later AFTER the swiftboaters exposed him admitted that the medals belonged to someone else.
      
    The swiftboaters alleged that john’s injuries were both superficial and self-inflected, falsely earning him 3 purple hearts and an early exit from the service. Simple question, why didn’t john kerry release his medical records to prove the swiftboaters were liars? Dan Rather proved his bias and ended his career by using fake documents to bash bush for his “time” in the service, why didn’t he insist john release his medical records to prove or disprove the allegations by the swiftboaters?
      
    Did anything the swiftboaters said get proven to be false?
      
    You gotta admit, his refusal to prove the swiftboaters liars cost him the election. Or maybe he was caught in enough lies already and thought it was better to ignore and hope the truth went away.

  34. 34

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:03 am

    #28 YLB says:

    His real name is Kevin Carns.
    Could be, could be. Yesterday he (as Stamn) crapped out some lame talking points from big oil and coal about global warming.
    Could Carns be that stupid?

     
    No idea how stupid carns is, never met him. But if you insist I’m him you’ve proven to me how stupid you are.
      
    Hey, are you the same person that used to type in all caps so you would feel your words had more impact? Kudos for learning something, maybe you’re not as stupid as this post made you look.

  35. 35

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:04 am

    Stamn: You’re just too entertaining.

    Military men discuss politics in uniform in Banana Republics like Guatemala or Panama under Noriega. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? Of course it is – you right-wingers are military FETISHISTS!

    We laugh at gay Republicans WHO BASH GAYS, I.E HYPOCRITES.

    We laugh at Republican adulterers WHO PREACH “FAMILY VALUES”.

    Clinton OPPOSED the WAR and avoided it. BUSH SUPPORTED the WAR and AVOIDED IT.

    Barney Frank didn’t run gay hookers out of his house. If he did, he wouldn’t be in office. THIS IS A SMEAR.

    We’ll do it back to you? HOW DOES IT FEEL?

  36. 36

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:09 am

    34 – Stamn. Your reading comprehension sucks. I said you COULD BE Carns.

    You came so late in the game with those crappy talking points. It seemed like you were a fresh 12 year old graduate of home school.

    You have no sense of humor either. I typed in all caps to make fun of another wingnut here.

  37. 37

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:18 am

    Stamn, was this your daily home schooling schedule?

    8:00 AM Worship – Reagan and Shrub
    9:00 AM Faux News and Friends
    10:00 AM Limbaugh
    11:00 AM Wingnut Math – Zero taxes = infinite gov. revenue
    12:00 PM – Lunch: spam, cheetos, lays greasy chips
    12:30 PM – Physical Activity – Military Marches
    1:00 PM History – Endless War
    2:00 PM Talking Points review

    3:00 PM Extra curricular – Trolling blogs with fresh talking points
    6:00 PM Lay on the couch watching Faux News till passed out

  38. 38

    robin spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:18 am

    Ylb,

    none of em have a sense of humor!!! That’s what makes wingnuts so much fun.

  39. 39

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:24 am

    Any idea what the inbred moron at 30 is trying to prove? That if a website is popular it’s liberal bias? Could it be because people tend to pay attention to truth and these sites deliver it rather than distorting it like Faux News?

    With right wing turds like this – we can win just off their ignorance.

  40. 40

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:25 am

    #12 robin says:

    Oh, I just love that “liberal bias in the media,” hell it’s about time they start report fair and balanced coverage!

      
    No bias in the media??
    The left have websites that prove the conservative bias of fox, rush, o’reilly, hannity, etc..
    Why don’t the left have any websites proving the conservative bias on abc, cbs, nbc, msnbc, cnn, olberman, dan rather, Times of new york, etc.?
      
    In reality, when the word bias comes up in the liberal lexicon, it’s fox and talk radio that gets mentioned over and over.

  41. 41

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:26 am

    32 – All the racists defected to your party long ago. Remember the Southern Strategy? Hell David Duke was an elected Republican at one time.

  42. 42

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:29 am

    Yes Marvin The Stammerer – Faux News gets mentioned BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING CLEARLY BIASED YOU MORON!

    Does it hurt to be that stupid Marv? I really want to know.

  43. 43

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:29 am

    33 – Let’s give Stamn some credit for moving beyond the influence of the “Clenis” to Kerry.

    Not that it will do him any good in 2008.

  44. 44

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:30 am

    If the Publicans were true patriots, actually thinking we NEED the war in Iraq – actually thinking the WAR ON TERROR is more than a bumper sticker invented by the molestor Rove, then why aren’t they asking tough questions about the Bush regime looooooosing tens of thousands of rifles in Iraq?

    Thought so.

  45. 45

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:31 am

    Stamn:

    Somewhere in your home schooling schedule we have to work in:

    ??:?? Reading – Endless reams of right-wing propaganda

  46. 46

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:38 am

    Why don’t the left have any websites proving the conservative bias on abc, cbs, nbc, msnbc, cnn, olberman, dan rather, Times of new york, etc.?

    You’re so stupid Stamn. Remember Judy Miller from the NY Times in bed with Scooter Libby (literally it was rumored).

    There’s plenty of examples of MSM sycophancy to the corrupt Bush crowd.

    And you don’t here about it first from the losing websites you read.

  47. 47

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:40 am

    Where’d Stamn go? This paid troll in training must be getting schooled by his masters right now over having his ass handed to him.

  48. 48

    robin spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 11:21 am

    re 40,

    Hey Marvin or whatever your name is, go read, if you can, your own post #11

  49. 49

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 11:35 am

    Vodafone, Prudential and the British government’s Central Office of Information are among the six marketers who just pulled all ads from social networking site Facebook after realizing that they appeared next to content by the right-wing extremist group British Nationalist Party.

  50. 50

    Tlazolteotl spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 12:07 pm

    Top 100 Liberal Political Websites of 2007

    MSNBC (part of MSN) – 2
    BBC (UK) – 35
    ABC (part of go.com) – 48
    CNN – 76
    New York Times – 185
    Reuters – 513

    &etc. etc.

    Only a wingnut would list a bunch of news sites and call them “political websites.” Come to think of it, I don’t see Faux News anywhere in that list. Hmmm.

  51. 51

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 12:57 pm

    31 ms

    What is NOT OK is an active-duty soldier wearing his uniform at political functions. You see, that is prohibited under the UCMJ and they are under military law.

    What IS OK is a veteran wearing military garb at an antiwar rally. You see, they are not bound by the UCMJ.

    It’s simple when you think. You should try it.

  52. 52

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 12:59 pm

    33 MS

    Did anything the swiftboaters said get proven to be false?

    Yes. All of it.

  53. 53

    Daddy Love spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 1:33 pm

    Agasin, there’s a bit of a difference between defending the privacy of a person’s personal life and speaking out against a prominent pro-“family-values” politician who has a taste for illegal assignations with prostitutes.

  54. 54

    busdrivermike spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 1:36 pm

    I don’t have a candidate, lemmings. I never was a Republican, and I am not now a Democrat.

    I just point out that in the last six months we have seen the Democrats become part of the problem( war funding, Wiretap expansion, the agreement to use torture).

    You can say all you want about social programs, but the Democratic Party has decided to become the chief enabler to the Commander in Chief.

    But I’m sure Hillary will promise you everything before she delivers nothing. And you guys are begging for another serving of that Clinton kool-Aid.

  55. 55

    The Guy With No Car spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 1:38 pm

    46

    I don’t have the links handy and I’m busy at work so I’d have to go research it, but there are numerous quotes from GOP capos and lieutenants indicating that the so-called “liberal media” is just a smoke screen the Publicans threw up as part of their Big Lie campaign. Here’s a quick sample, and one of the most telling, from William Kristol in the New Yorker:

    I admit it : The liberal media were never that powerful and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures.

    He wrote this in 1995. Since then the combination of the transition of the vast majority of US-based news outlets from adversarial journalism to being stenographers for big business and the Bush crime family on the one hand, and Faux News being the propaganda arm of the Publicans on the other, has only tipped the scales farther to the right.

  56. 56

    The Guy With No Car spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 1:47 pm

    54

    Way to paint us all with a nice broad brush. I can’t speak for everyone else on this site, of course, but I don’t trust Hilary Clinton. Not until she completely repudiates her ties to the DLC and stops taking corporate money, and even then I’m not that crazy about continuing the 27-year tradition of having someone named Bush or Clinton at the top of the Executive Branch (and for the hard-of-thinking, that include’s 41’s eight years as Reagan’s VP).

    As for the Democrats who are enabling Dubya’s War on Abstract Nouns (like “freedom” and “rights”), I’m looking for a fund I can contribute to to help knock those Blue Lemming Democrats out of power next year. I figure my ancestors didn’t fight and die to get me self-determination and a Bill of Rights to have them squandered by a bunch of so-called representatives who wet their pants every time Bush goes, “Boo!”

  57. 57

    busdrivermike spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 1:49 pm

    I love all the people who think politicians will wake up the day after the election, look under their beds, and find a box with their morals and conscience in it, clean and intact. Politicians justify their shiftiness by saying that is what it takes to win, when that is who they were all along.

    Looks like Maria is still a war supporter, considering she voted to fund it in May. Everyone on this blog seems to be against the war, yet am I the only one who actually had the sense to not sanctify it with my vote in November?

    Oh yeah, I would see Mike McGavick in office before I would put my stamp on that bloodbath in Iraq. And I guarantee you I will not be voting for anybody who voted in favor of that war, or seeks to continue it.

    Just because someone is evil doesn’t mean I vote for someone just a little less evil.

  58. 58

    The Guy With No Car spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 2:26 pm

    57

    Putting Mike?? in office WOULD be putting your stamp on that bloodbath in Iraq. If you think he would do anything but vote in step with the rest of his party, you are as delusional as you seem to think the rest of us are. People who really wanted to send a message about Senator Cantwell’s stance on the war voted for Hong Tran in the primary. She got, what? Ten percent of the vote? (Which is a lot more than Aaron Dixon, nominally an anti-war candidate in the general election, got.)

    In the general election, I guess the rest of us figured a Democrat who would go the way we wanted 75% of the time was better than a Republican who would go the way we wanted 0% of the time. In 2008 the Democrats will be working on two things: Solidifying the gains they made in 2006 (which the current crop of Republicans is making incredibly easy for them) and getting more and better Democrats into office, “better” meaning “more responsive to their constituents and less responsive to big-money special interest and intimidation from the media, the inside-the-Beltway culture and their opponents of opposite ideology.”

  59. 59

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 2:55 pm

    I just point out that in the last six months we have seen the Democrats become part of the problem( war funding, Wiretap expansion, the agreement to use torture).

    Hey that’s politics. Congress has the power of the purse but that power cuts both ways and is useless if it means the troops are hurt.

    Torture? No excuse for any Dem or Republican for that matter to support torture. The stories are coming out from people who witnessed it and they’re disgusting, all the more because it was so unneccessary.

    FISA was a huge disappointment to be sure. Blame that on politics as well I guess. Many of those Dems that supported this FISA caving came from districts that went to Bush in 2004. Maybe they felt threatened. Still was no excuse according to some critics. Despite Dem support on the War on Terra in 2006, Rove and Co. bashed the Dems as being soft and the people gave them the Congress anyway.

    HOWEVER, anyone know how many wingnuts sat at home in 2006 due to the corruption scandals? They’re not going to sit at home forever.

    All in all we need to elect Dems with more backbone for sure. Forget the R’s for a generation in my book. The pendulum has been swinging their way since Raygun in 1981 and it’s got to come back the other way for at least as long.

  60. 60

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 3:18 pm

    Oh yeah, I would see Mike McGavick in office before I would put my stamp on that bloodbath in Iraq.

    Then you’re not serious. Politicians can’t serve unless they’re in office. Do they let you down? Sure, but sometimes they HAVE TO.

    I can’t see Maria Cantwell crossing the line to support the Republicans with a solid Dem supermajority in the Senate and a Dem in the White House that is unless things got too wingnutty here in WA and again her seat was at stake.

  61. 61

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 3:23 pm

    Has anyone seen the pictures from the YearlyKos convention??
      
    When the democrats speak of diversity, it appears they mean different weights and degrees of cleanliness of middle-aged white males.
      
    Where in the hell are the African-Americans?
     
    It reminds me of that liberal blog luncheon Clinton had in Harlem last year, with only whites invited.

  62. 62

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 3:29 pm

    61 – Here’s the walky-talky point again.

    African Americans were at Yearly Kos. How many did you want? Are you for quotas or something?

    NEXT!

  63. 63

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 3:31 pm

    #52 Daddy Love says: 33 MS

    Did anything the swiftboaters said get proven to be false?
    Yes. All of it.

      
    Horse shit and you know it!!
       
    I gave two examples, I double dog dare you to prove me wrong. Of course you can’t so why am I even wasting my time with someone of your “intellectually dishonesty.”

  64. 64

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 3:46 pm

    #62 YLB says:

    61 – Here’s the walky-talky point again.
    African Americans were at Yearly Kos. How many did you want? Are you for quotas or something?
    NEXT!

      
    Of course they were. Not!
      
    Thanks for all those links to those pics proving your lies inaccuracies.
      
    What is it about you democrats on here, can’t provide a single link to prove anything you insist is true.
      
    Oops, my bad. One black face out of 105 pictures.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/b.....163232046/
      
    After being linked to for the “all white” photo gallery, he took his pics down.
    http://markus.blog-city.com/ye....._vegas.htm
      
    http://www.yearlykosconvention.org/unconventional
      
    Oops, my bad another one. He fooled me, he’s articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.
    http://flickr.com/photos/changetowin/

  65. 65

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 3:49 pm

    #62 YLB says:

    61 – Here’s the walky-talky point again.
    African Americans were at Yearly Kos. How many did you want? Are you for quotas or something?
    NEXT!

       
    (posted the above before adding->)
    13% of the population is black. Like many have said on this blog, blacks monolithically support the democrat party. Let’s say, I expect to see 13% of the attendees black.
       
    Call it affirmative action for bloggers.

  66. 66

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 3:57 pm

    Stamn: Did you serve? Have you ever dodged a bullet shot in anger? Did the chimpanzee you voted for twice serve in combat?

    Oh I forget! You’re 12 or 13!

    When do we get to see the “Clenis Envy” from you?

  67. 67

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 3:59 pm

    64 – Only wingnut I know who would call for affirmative action or quotas.

    What a moron!

  68. 68

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 4:03 pm

    For the democrats that don’t know any better…
      
    Clinton had a luncheon for bloggers last year, in Harlem.
      
    Either there are no black liberal bloggers or none were invited, your guess. Of course the help staff was black.
      
    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/09/12/091/72051
     
    (from a left leaning website so you know the picture is true and accurate)

  69. 69

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 4:19 pm

    #66 YLB says:

    Stamn: Did you serve? Have you ever dodged a bullet shot in anger? Did the chimpanzee you voted for twice serve in combat?
    Oh I forget! You’re 12 or 13!
    When do we get to see the “Clenis Envy” from you?

     
    No I haven’t served, too young for vietnam, too old for iraq.
     
    Yes I have dodged bullets in anger, I live in los angeles, the city of riots.
      
    I take offense at you calling Ralph Nadar a chimpanzee. That said, yes he did serve in the military.
      
    As far as Clenis envy, it’s called transference. It’s on your mind, not mine.
      
    Now some questions for you-
    Are you as irrational in real life as you are on this blog?
    How does it feel to vote for someone that got beat by a chimpanzee?

  70. 70

    busdrivermike spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 4:19 pm

    On Iraq, Maria Cantwell voted EXACTLY the same way Mike McGavick would have. So, on Iraq, YOU voted for Mike McGavick anyway. I didn’t.

    And I loved #60’s comment, which said Maria will grow a backbone when it is super safe to do so. Which is the definition of “blowin in the wind”.

  71. 71

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 4:26 pm

    68 – Man you must be so hardcore a wingnut that you’d vote to split the Dems instead of voting for the chimpanzee you truly worship.

    Hey I bet you did GOTV for Nader as well? That’d prove my theory.

    What can I say? It doesn’t feel good to be governed by a troop of war-mongering greedhead chimpanzees.

  72. 72

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 4:30 pm

    69 – Bullshit. Cantwell has NOT voted rubberstamp with the Republicans.

    Again, a politician can’t serve unless he or she is in office.

    In a wingnut state, a Dem makes unpopular votes. That’s reality. WA is not wingnut but it has put R’s in the Senate before.

    Remember Slade Gorton?

  73. 73

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 4:38 pm

    Stamn:

    You live in L.A.?

    I think that further supports my theory. You’re so hard core you work to split the Dem vote to throw power to the R’s.

    I heard about the de-certified vote fraud machines. You have a hand in that?

    Imagine that. Caaaleeefuuurneeaa – the true “prize” for the Bushies.

  74. 74

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 4:45 pm

    Either there are no black liberal bloggers or none were invited, your guess.

    My guess is none could make it or none had the readership or the kind of impact these folks had.

    Clinton’s record on including minorities and women in his administration is excellent.

    How frickin’ silly are you?

  75. 75

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 4:47 pm

    #71 YLB says:

    Man you must be so hardcore a wingnut that you’d vote to split the Dems instead of voting for the chimpanzee you truly worship.

      
    So in your opinion, voting for the candidate you feel best represents you is splitting the democrats? Unlike you, and millions of other mindphucked minions, I chose not to vote for “at least he’s not bush” or “at least he’s not kerry.” And remember, you are only parroting what the publicans said a few years back when ross perot siphoned off voters from bush and clinton got elected. You’ve been well trained by your leaders and lack the courage of your convictions.
    Thanks for playing along, I feel you’ve embarrassed yourself enough already.

  76. 76

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 4:50 pm

    Oh and I knew you’d get around to the “Clenis Envy” eventually.

    Imagine that – a global warming denier who voted for Nader!

    What a gift to wingnuts this guy is!

  77. 77

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 4:53 pm

    So in your opinion, voting for the candidate you feel best represents you is splitting the democrats?

    Did you do GOTV for Nader? Twice? If you did either you were a fool or working for the Republicans.

  78. 78

    YLB spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 5:06 pm

    Nader! Imagine that. I thank that “unreasonable man” every day for giving us Shrub in 2000.

    NOT!

    I bet Stamn does too.

  79. 79

    The Guy With No Car spews:

    Monday, 8/6/07 at 10:11 pm

    74

    One of the best of the liberal black bloggers died this last year. RIP Steve Gilliard.

    But see, the thing is, on the Internet no one knows you’re a dog, or black, or female, or Muslim, or gay, 15 years old, unless they bring it up or make an issue of it.

  80. 80

    NRA Goldy spews:

    Tuesday, 8/7/07 at 2:37 pm

    More lying liars & shattered glass at New Republic:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....ecants.asp

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