– The Greenwood food bank is running low.
– There are a lot of questions about the Chicks for Rob button. Not the least is how it got through whatever campaign bureaucracy there should be to stop this sort of thing.
– The supposedly liberal Seattle City Council can’t even support the tiniest bit of campaign finance reform. O’Brien’s proposal isn’t perfect, but it’s better than the status quo.
– RIP Johnny Pesky
Mass Shooting Of The Day (TM)
Today’s mass shooting killed 2 cops and wounded 2 more cops, and wounded 5 civilians.
A guy with an assault rifle opened up on a cop directing traffic in the parking lot of a Louisiana steel mill.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/.....?hpt=hp_t1
Meanwhile, American buyers keep a Russian assault rifle factory alive.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....83925.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: This is the kind of country Republican gun nuts have given us. Why would any rational person vote for them?
Joe Biden, major liability:
http://dyn.politico.com/prints.....738694994E
Nearly three months still to go.
Obama keeps Biden – he’s the gift to the GOP that just keeps on giving.
Obama dumps Biden – it’s an admission of major error in choosing him in the first place, and it’s a sign of weakness and desperation.
My feeling is that Hillary is done with taking one for the team, for now. Obama’s got a problem, a huge one, of his own making.
Rightwing militarists are trying to swiftboat Obama, but I don’t think it’ll work. Voters are wise to this sleazy tactic now.
” … [A] group of former special operations and C.I.A. officers started a campaign on Tuesday night accusing Mr. Obama of recklessly leaking information about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden and other security matters ….”
http://tinyurl.com/8gxqsyq
Roger Rabbit Commentary: The key word in this story is “former” — when someone is no longer employed, the thought that naturally comes to mind is they’re former employees because their service was unsatisfactory. Maybe the word “disgruntled” fits here, too. Given who they are, I’d worry if they’re going to start shooting.
4.
Roger Rabbit – former positive contributor to society. Current leech on Social Security, Medicare, and society in general.
Asshole, a retired member of the military is a former member. Employed or not. Discharged honorably or not.
It’s early – this is your most stupid comment of the day but I am sure you will beat it.
@2 You’re late this morning. Keep it up and they’ll fire you.
The Greenwood food bank is running low.
Although I’m agnostic/atheist, my wife is not. We tithe monthly to the Phinney Ridge Lutheran Church, with instructions that our donations be earmarked for their Food Bank:
http://www.prlc.org/service-an.....food-bank/
It’s good that redundancy exists in our social help structure – even if some of it is provided by a religious entity.
@4 When I was in the military disparaging the Commander In Chief got you booted out. Not a whole lot of honor going on with these guys, no matter what’s stamped on their discharge papers. The point is they have discharge papers. SEALS and CIA operatives are career people. Usually. There is, of course, weeding of those gardens. Only performers are retained.
@ 7
Ah, yes. I recall now.
You said once that the role of the military included taking the blame for a presidential decision gone bad. The president is free to claim credit for military successes and to deflect criticism for military failures by blaming the military.
But it’s somehow dishonorable for ex-military types to speak up.
Got it. RR hypocrisy at full throttle today.
@6 Private charity is fine, as far as it goes, but given that capitalism is an imperfect system which regularly fails to provide jobs to all who need to work, it’s not asking too much of those who profit munificently from this system to pay a little in taxes for a government-run program that guarantees food subsistence for those left behind by the vagaries of capitalism. No one should have to depend on private charity for basic survival. That’s something society owes to everyone, regardless of whether private citizens are willing to donate or not. We don’t even make murderers and rapists depend on charity for food, so why should we do that to workers?
@ 9
it’s not asking too much of those who profit handsomely under this system to pay a little in taxes
Maybe that’s why someone instituted a progressive tax system awhile back.
@8 “You said once that the role of the military included taking the blame for a presidential decision gone bad.”
You’ve got it bass ackwards. When a military operation goes bad, the president takes the blame. See, e.g., Jimmy Carter and Junior Bush. But then, you’ve never been right about anything, ever.
Bob is pounding away furiously to earn his 5 cents a word. He must realize the boss noticed he came in late — he was only the second poster in this morning’s new thread.
@10 Great! As you’re fine with it, let’s keep it.
White House preempts Ryan in Ohio with manufacturing-hub news
“..on Thursday morning, the White House announced the launch of a Youngstown-based manufacturing hub, just before Rep. Paul Ryan was scheduled to speak in the Buckeye State.”
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/e.....-hub-news/
Desperation shows its ugly face in many ways…….
I suppose this is what we’ll see in the next few months. A bunch of new programs targeted at battleground states. Meanwhile, WA unemployment ticks up 0.2% to 8.5%
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....obs16.html
which is above the national average and also above the unemployment rate in Ohio (7.3%)
http://www.google.com/publicda.....yment+rate
When will Seattle next see Obama? When it’s time to collect the next bundle of big checks.
Before we get too distracted, let’s remember this day started out with four cops getting shot by a maniac with an assault rifle.
@14 Welcome to hardball politics, whiner. If you’re not ready to play hardball with the boys, go back to the girls’ softball league, girlyman.
Bombs away:
Diplomacy doesn’t seem to be working. The Iranian nuclear program continues moving closer to weapons capability. And the Iranians themselves have matched their rhetoric about the annihilation of Israel with direct support for attacks on its people, like the suicide-bomb murder of five Israeli tourists in Bulgaria, which U.S. officials have linked to Iran.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/a.....?page=full
Time’s running out, and sanctions aren’t working soon enough.
A quick check of how the Leech is doing reveals my stocks are up $950 at this moment. I’ll take it. Beats fighting commuter traffic or doing backbreaking labor for Republican wages. I’m a hypocrite, all right, but not the way Cereal Bob thinks. I bleed the capitalist system with the rest of the the idle class. Why not? Why should Republicans get all the booty? I’m not hurting anybody by taking it from them.
@17 Itching to send other people’s kids to another war. Bob’s ilk sure do love to see the arms and legs fly. As long as it’s not theirs.
@ 16
I wasn’t complaining. Just pointing out that a state with 7.3% umeployment is getting a lot more attention and largesse than one with 8.5% unemployment.
Maybe Obama can send in Joe Biden for some damage control in Ohio. Biden can talk about how great it is to be in Alabama and how he’s been a Dolphins fan ever since the NFL got its start in 1849.
I have other things to do, like going back to bed and sleeping while my stocks go up, but I consider it my patriotic duty to kick Bob for a while. After he’s tenderized and softened up, I’ll turn him over to the other patriots on this site, and they’ll take over his re-education.
Up $1,025 now. Sure is a pleasure “educating” you, Bob. Profitable, too. I don’t have to do a damn thing except sit here ass-kicking you while the wonderful capitalist system pumps magic money into my account. And these rightwing fools call me a socialist …
@20 Good luck with Ohio, sap. Your dream team needs it there. Because if Obama wins Ohio, which he will, it’s over.
At $1,250 now. This is turning into a glorious morning! It’s been nice talking with you, Bob, but I’ve got some serious sleeping to do. Have a nice day at work.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
Joe Biden, national laughingstock:
Chris Moody
@Chris_Moody
Paul Ryan in Ohio just now: “As Joe Biden might say, it’s great to be here in Nevada!”
Sure is too bad about those cops. I wonder how much longer America will put up with the NRA and the rightwing gun nuts who want every trailerpark slimesucker to have an assault rifle?
@ 23
Romney has seen the largest gain in Ohio, a state we have seen bounce between the campaigns over the last few months. Today, the GOP ticket leads by 2 points (46% to 44%), compared to July when President Obama led the state 48% to 45%. Romney also gained ground in Virginia – today, he and Paul Ryan hold a 3-point advantage in the race (48% to 45%), while Romney trailed by 2 points in July.
http://www.purplestrategies.co....._Final.pdf
I don’t think Ohio is as in-the-bag as you seem to believe.
@25 Cereal Bob, local laughingstock. Later, bozo. Time for my morning nap.
$1,410 now. Not many jobs pay like that for doing nothing. Ain’t capitalism grand!
This booty gets favored tax treatment, too. And if the Republicans win, my free income will be tax-free! They think only wages should be taxed.
My conscience won’t let me vote for that, and I don’t see how any other honest rabbit could vote for it, either; but if they give it to me, I’ll take it, just like I take their stock market money.
@27 Keep waving your pom-poms in front of your face, dancing around and jumping up and down, and telling yourself yer gonna win the Big Game, chump. Who knows, maybe you can get a date with the cheerleader.
I’m outta here, for now.
Roger!
Shame on you.
Engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
You know better…
…LOLOLOL!
Gee, now why might reporters shout out questions to Obama during inappropriate moments?
President Obama hasn’t formally taken questions from the White House press corps in more than two months, while on the campaign trail in Iowa yesterday he made time for reporters from People Magazine and Entertainment Tonight.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....ess-corps/
Maybe it’s because it’s the only opportunity they get to elicit a response from him.
Two months, HA-types. There’s your transparency.
Of course, it does seem appropriate that one can still read about an Obama interview while perusing the type of magazine one typically peruses while taking a dump.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04T68AtAAXc
Jobs:
27500 jobs created in Iowa since March 2010, according to the Obama campaign:
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....15126.html
That’s 4,583 jobs per electoral vote (IA has 6).
538 electoral votes nationwide.
So, 2,441,444 jobs created nationwide since March 2010.
29 months since that period.
So, that’s 84,188 jobs created per month.
What do we need just to keep up with population growth? 125-150K jobs per month just to keep up?
Under Obama, we’re continuing to hemorrhage jobs over a period of nearly 2 1/2 years.
Just sayin’.
Thought I’d pass along a couple of Ayn Rand quotes.
This is Paul Ryan’s hero?
In 2010 more jobs were created than under the entire 8 years of Bush.
Let us give thanks to Republicans for blocking adequate stimulus to this economy.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes......-policies/
Sir Richard Branson blogging about Rachel Beckwith.
http://www.virgin.com/richard-.....chels-wish
# 20: You are trying to complain that Democrats are complaining in a swing state? Forgetting, I presume, that Republicans are campaigning there also?
C’mon, Serial. That’s just silly.
@ 20
I merely pointed out:
1. A coinky-dinky timely drop of taxpayer cash on OH.
2. Money being dropped on a state with 7.3% unemployment rather than, say, ours, which has 8.5% umemployment.
No complaint. Just observation.
Today Slick Willard tells us
Well, I guess that settles that. No need for Slick Willard to release his tax returns like Obama has, because Slick Willard told us.
Wait. What? Slick Willard has
misspokenlied about paying his taxes before?Slick Willard trustworthy on taxes? No.
Ever wonder where the smarm comes from?
@ 40
Ever wonder where the smarm comes from?
Actually, I wonder every time you fail to post a link.
Dullard (R-Money) Infographic on Medicare:
https://twitter.com/thinkprogress/status/236131764991586305/photo/1/large
41 – Google it Bob. The letter is legit.
@ 43
Should I stop posting links and tell people to go look it up themselves?
How about if everyone else does that as well?
Or, placing a link so that a one-click option is available should the reader desire more could be suggested to those who do not do so.
I wasn’t disputing accuracy of @ 40.
I mention smarm. Look who responds. Our very own Galtian Lord, Bob. He who looks down with contempt at the inferior masses. Smarm and Bob, like stink and shit, they just naturally go together, don’t they?
“Actually, I wonder every time you fail to post a link.”
Links? Talk to your friend, the Klown. You can use your kneepads to blow the goat while you’re at it, asswipe.
Unfortunate but right wing propaganda has cowered reporters into he-said, she-said scribblers.
When all reporters do is pepper a Dem President with asking him to respond to right wing lies, then all that accomplishes is legitimizing the lies.
“How about if everyone else does that as well?”
Yeah, we’ve all seen you get all over the linkless Klown. You’re such a smarmy fucking hypocrite.
Serially Devoid of content,
Why don’t you start up your own blog where you can make and enforce all the rules you want?
Create a blog. It’s free.
And you can hang out with all your friends.
@ 47
No idea who that is. Have no recollection of reading him or responding.
People ask me for links when I don’t provide. I apologize and provide.
Wasn’t asking for an apology. Not even interested in the link because I’m not interested in what you posted.
Just took the opportunity for a little snark to brighten your day, Doctor Steve. My gift to you.
@ 42
Yeah, there are some recent changes:
In his interview with Fox’s Brit Hume Tuesday, Ryan said he has abandoned his plan’s provision to take about a half-trillion dollars out of current Medicare funding in order to shore up the Medicare trust fund for the future (as opposed to the provision of Obamacare that takes about $700 billion out of Medicare to pay for health coverage for currently uncovered people). Romney’s proposal is not to take the money out at all, so Ryan has abandoned his old position and now supports Romney’s.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/.....C0ubRyt_qK
I’m having trouble keeping up with it all. There’s the 2011 plan, the 2012 plan, and now there’s whatever they’re offering this week as a joint proposal.
@ 48
Rules? How about just a standard way of communicating. Like putting a period at the end of a sentence, only instead of a single keystroke, a cut-and-paste effort. Four keystrokes.
@51 Serially Full of BS,
Go Galt! Do it on your own!
Remember boob, You didn’t build this!
@ 52
Maybe I should just purchase the rights to another locally famous blog:
http://rujax.blogspot.com/
Pass. I’m good for now.
“you are inferior”
Like Bob telling attornies Roger (also a former judge) and Proud Leftist that they know nothing about the law. Like Bob telling Doctor Lib Sci that he knows nothing about the medical profession. Classical narcissism. And he’s so damned smarmy about it.
“you are inferior”
Pretty much the underlying point of every comment that our current Psych 101 punching bag posts here.
@31 “Engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.”
It felt more like a water balloon fight with a witless toddler, and I didn’t even get hit.
There’s one born every minute.
AKA your article topic du jour:
Jon Corzine Is Considering
Starting A Hedge Fund
http://www.businessinsider.com.....und-2012-8
He’s an Obama bundler. He won’t be a felon, we just learned:
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/20.....f=business
Who says taking the Fifth
http://www.marketwatch.com/sto.....2012-03-28
is a bad idea? It might or might not work for her. Did wonders for her boss, apparently.
I hear RR will be the listing broker for Corzine’s new hedge fund. One of the requirements is that all investors must have a documented IQ no greater than Rujax’.
Whatever happened to Lib Sci? Vacation time?
Yesterday’s shooter apparently was a gay activist who didn’t like the Family Council’s anti-gay politics.
“A man suspected of shooting and wounding a security guard in the lobby of a Christian lobbying group had been volunteering at a community center for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-20.....ups-guard/
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Throw his ass in a cell occupied by a skinhead. Let them entertain each other.
@40 Speaking of moral prattle, I wonder if one of our righty trolls can explain how their notion of social darwinism is moral?
Leftist Lunatic who shot the guard at the Family Research Council “hated” their politics.
This nutjob was inflamed by the left-wing ugly rhetoric being fanned by Obama and Biden. He snapped. It’s Obama’s fault for heightening the ugly rhetoric.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012.....latestnews
By the way, Bob, you pulled that “link” comment from your ass as I always post links and/or give attribution when necessary.
@ 61
It was a big cut-and-paste. Arguably one that the HA TOS shouldn’t allow.
No link.
Guess it wasn’t necessary.
Rasmussen:
WI Romney by one.
OH Tie ballgame.
FL Romney by two.
http://www.rasmussenreports.co....._president
Bob, allow me to introduce you to the Dumbfuck Klown @60. He hates brown people and likes to post racist jokes, so you two will probably get along just fine. That’s probably the first link he’s posted in ages. Geez, I must have embarrassed him. And I thought he was beyond embarrassment or shame, what with the goat and all.
@ 64
Um, OK. Thanks. What’s with the repeated reference to the goat?
@56 “I hear RR will be the listing broker for Corzine’s new hedge fund.”
That doesn’t surprise me, given the quality level of your sources.
@60 You got everything right except the last sentence, which is highly unusual for you. He modeled his behavior after the rightwing lunatics who do most of the shooting in this country.
@63 Rasmussen, ho hum.
Obama leads in states with 332 electoral votes, 62 more than needed. If Romney converted Florida and Ohio and Wisconsin, he’d still need Virginia, Colorado, or Nevada; or without one of those, two more states.
http://horsesass.org/?p=45424&.....nt-1176639
We’ll see what the polls look like after the granny ads run for a while.
@ 69
Have you looked at VA and CO poll data lately, RR?
Romney might have paid a 13% tax rate in all those years, which would mean he’s hiding something else. I still think it’s the amnesty from prosecution for hiding unreported income in Swiss banks and/or Cayman Islands.
@ 70
You seem not to realize that Romney’s not advertising much now. His money is locked up until the general, then he’s got boatloads to spend.
Who’s been spending? Obama, by 3-1. And he’s sliding. Meanwhile, the economy is sliding, unemployment rates are ticking up, there are now TWO GOP nominees hammering him, and Biden’s liabilities are front and center.
Your solution is granny ads? Go back to Seamus.
Although I suppose both are better than defending Obama on his record.
That big meanie Obama is saying nasty things about good ‘ole Mittens again
Let me just say right now, if Slick Willard starts to cry I blame Obama!
@ 72
Again, that’s your plan for the final 2 1/2 months? Beware the rich guy?
Go for it. We’re counting on it.
Yabut,
Romney’s rich!!!!!
August 16, 2012
Americans Continue to Give Obama Low Marks on the Economy
Low rating on the economy may be more problematic than even lower deficit rating
http://www.gallup.com/poll/156.....onomy.aspx
@71 Yup. They’re still tossup states, and Romney still has to win almost all of the tossup states to get to 270.
“A new national poll indicates that Mitt Romney’s announcement of House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan as his running mate has not made an immediate impact on the race for the White House.”
http://politicalticker.blogs.c.....t-16-2012/
and
http://www.cnn.com/election/20.....ttleground
Maybe he can do it if the GOP suppresses military voters again.
http://www.gregpalast.com/mass.....-soldiers/
@75 Keep waving those pom-poms and telling yourself the guy who isn’t trusted by his own voters is gonna win.
And now we know why Slick Willard was able to bond so well with House Republican Leader, Paul
I’ll gladly give you a coupon tomorrow if you give me your Medicare today Ryan.
Paul Ryan is a bald face hypocritical liar.
Slick Willard appreciates having an accomplished lying hypocrite on his team.
Via Joan at the GOS
Richard branson is one cool motherfucker…
Just checked the stock market. Today is getting better and better! I’ve made $1,975 while napping in bed! I sure love capitalism! And these wingnut numbskulls call me a socialist … can you believe that?
@53
Hahahhahhhqhhhahhhhahhahahhhhaha
Now that is some funny shit
@ 77
Look at Nate Silver’s tweet, which I posted yesterday.
In the battlegrounds, on average, it made a difference of 0.9%.
Now look at how close those battlegrounds are in the polls over the past two weeks.
My point, RR, is that it’s idiotic to look at a national poll on stuff like that.
FDR was a rich guy. Dullard (R-Money) is a rich guy who lies all the time.
Back in 2008 he came off as no better than a poor used car salesman. He’s still that.
@ 78
Keep blindly declaring with supreme overconfidence that Obama is going to stomp Romney, as the polls slide toward parity.
@85 Keep telling yourself Rmoney is gonna win almost every tossup state, including three big ones where he trails, because that’s what he needs to pull it off.
79 – That is classic right wing!
Ryan is a slick talker.. The trick is to make his actions speak louder than the lies he tells.
How do you know when Slick Willard or House Republican Leader, Paul
I’ll gladly give you a coupon tomorrow if you give me your Medicare today Ryan are lying?
Their lips are moving.
@ 86
You are using old info. He’s not trailing in FL, he’s not trailing in OH, and excluding PA there are only two ‘big’ ones.
Romney has multiple paths to 270.
Look at this map:
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....e_map.html
Where we laugh just a little louder at Serially Confused.
Up @2 our nitwit troll lobbed right wing nut job “drop Biden” BS.
Where could he get such stupid idea? (Other than best VP chooser evah, John McCain).
DANIEL HALPER at the Weekly Standard is pushing this meme too.
Good Job Boob! Keep fking the drop Joe chicken!
@ 90
I really, really doubt they’ll drop him. Oh, and Palin brought it up before McCain.
Giuliani’s now questioned his fitness for the job.
I do wonder what might pop up to keep him from showing up for the debate. Recall McCain suggesting he might not make a debate because of the financial crisis in 2008?
Maybe we help Israel bomb Iran and Joe is put in charge of something that keeps him in the War room rather than on stage.
re 90: It is my belief that Biden’s ‘gaffes’ are intentional and meant to test the waters prior to the president taking a position.
Hey, as we head into the hottest afternoon of the hottest day of the year in the Emerald City, it is probably a good time to mention Global Climate Change (a.k.a. Global Warming)
While we’ve been blessed here with a not too hot, not too wet summer, the rest of the USA is seeing something a little different.
Soon we’ll be faced with the dilemma over which is worse; No grain to ship on the Mississippi? or No Mississippi to ship anything on?
I bet if we could see climate scientists tax returns we’d see how much money they are reaping in on their hoax.
People like it when they believe that a politician speaks his mind. Biden, if you recall, is an expert on foreign policy, chosen partially to correct Obama’s perceived inexperience in forein affairs.
Paul Ryan just doubles down on Mitt’s foreign affairs ignorance.
In addition, God tells Mitt to wear long johns at all times.
@92
Yep. He’s also rallying the base and keeping Romney off message. And I’d also note that the black folks he was talking to didn’t mind his “gonna put you back in chains” comment. It was Republican white folks that went all crazy about it.
@ 94
Ryan is perceived as someone who speaks his mind, which is why he’s being well-received in the right places.
Biden, if you recall, wanted to carve Iraq into three separate countries.
@96 Serially Hoodwinked,
Republican House Ideological Leader, Paul Ryan doesn’t speak his mind, fool. He tells gullible people like you what you want to believe while he pads his own pockets.
For better or worse, his deeply held belief in grifter Ayn Rand is a clue for you.
See 79 above.
@ 95
Black folks in support of a Democrat politician. Now who woulda thunk that would occur?
Seriously, there are two points of note as a result of the ‘chains’ thing.
First, I’m glad to see that there was acknowledgment from several quarters that a double standard exists, and that had what Biden said been uttered by a Republican instead, there would be hell to pay as a result. Nice piece in WaPo about this.
Second, and I am unhappy to point this out, to the extent that Biden’s comments will be or have been noticed by working-class white voters, it furthers the objections of that demographic group to the Obama/Biden ticket. This might help Romney in places like VA, PA, OH. It’s the type of help I wish Romney would earn rather than have handed to him by Biden’s stupidity.
Obama is meeting poor old dumbass Joe today at the White House. Meeting should be over. Joe Biden reminds me of a grandpa the family likes to keep in the attic because when he escapes, he blurts out one moronic thing after another.
Like the one yesterday about bringing the auto industry into the 20th Century.
I think old Joe has lost it and is a major embarrassment. Obama would be wise to beg Hillary to run with him and dump the kook.
@89
Going back to December of last year Romney has trailed in every poll in WI except 2 (using RCP’s data). Using the same time period, in PA Romney’s ahead in 1 poll out of about 20. Same time period in Florida and you have a much more even matchup. In Ohio Romney’s up in about 4 out of around 27 polls.
Any one poll doesn’t mean much, but multiple polls and trends do matter and right now everything points in Obama’s favor in all those state except Florida and that’s a toss up. It’s a long time until the election and things could change, but for right now it’s looking pretty solid for Obama.
When wealthy, white, Republican’s say such things there’s a different meaning attached to, so why shouldn’t there be a different standard?
Polls, for whatever they are worth at this time, are starting to show an uptick for Romney/Ryan.
Looks like the Dems will have to quickly buy some more polls so you left-wing idiots can continue to delude yourselves that Obama is a shoe-in.
Keep thinking that.
Keep reading Darryl’s analysis and translating it into November results.
Obama has been outspending Romney 3-1 in swing states. And the polls haven’t moved.
The Undecideds will break for Romney in the end.
Obama would not be spending campaign $$ like this if he wasn’t very desperate.
But hey, go ahead and believe what you want.
And please…put Poor Old Joe Biden back in the closet, would you?
@99,
You’re on to something. It may be wise for Gekko/Galt to see Obama dump Biden. Do you think that you and Serially Dim posting your wish here will help make it happen?
And although Serially Dim claims to understand what year it is, do you really think there’s any value in 2012 of following the advice of McCain/Palin on VP qualifications?
@ 101
I really can’t believe you buy the Dem defense of what Obama said and what he meant when he said it. Sorry. I don’t.
97. MikeBoyScout spews:
@96 Serially Hoodwinked,
Sheesh, you make it sound like being an ideological leader is something bad. Paul Ryan is fuckin’ awesome!! You bet he speaks for me and the vast majority of Conservative Americans.
Remember, there are more Conservatives than Libs in America.
This is from Politico in January, 2012 and the spread is likely wider today–
You assholes may sound like a lot of people, but you aren’t.
@ 100
The poll ‘trend’ is toward parity – PA excluded. But FL, VA, WI, OH, CO, IA. They’re tossups right until election day.
The economic trend is a slide – I suspect that if GWB43 were still president it would be called a recession at this point. That is not a positive for Obama because the upticks in unemployment rate, the first-time claims consistently above 350,000 each week, and the monthly jobs-created data cannot be hidden and will assume greater importance as we head into Fall.
I don’t disagree that until the most recent batch, polls have gone largely Obama’s way.
My point is that current data aren’t an uptick for Romney due to Ryan, except in WI.
My point is that we are seeing better agreement between Obama’s approval and his poll numbers. Not good for The One.
Serial–
These idiots are so deluded, they actually believe Romney and Ryan wake up in the morning thinking about how they can screw the common working men and women. At least that’s what they constantly portray. I doubt that 10% of Americans believe that. But these dimbulbs do.
It’s that kind of extremism that turns off the Independents.
The Dems need to register Mickey Mouse & Donald Duck a whole bunch of times to vote before November.
MoveOn.org tried to do it in Washington State last election and got busted by some trade association. Remember?
@ 107
Most of them do not believe that. Most of them are not idiots.
Denial of the position their side has put them in is easier to cloak in across-the-board accusations against the other side. They had a chance to do big things. They paid off their cronies and advanced an unpopular ideology instead. They face a reckoning.
Dyin’ time’s here.
@105, well if Politico says most Americans want to give up their Medicare for a coupon, you’ve practically won. Or maybe you need to go search Politico to find out how many Americans consider themselves stupid?
Prolly not but they sure wake up thinking how they can best serve their interests and those who brung em’
Hint: same thing..
@ 109
The voucher proposal was not Ryan’s alone. Read the Wyden/Ryan proposal published in December. They used a different term. The mechanics are the same.
You DO understand that premium supports were a bipartisan proposal, MBS. Right?
If you do, it’s not the voucher concept that you don’t like.
Was this unpopular? From the comment above:
Apparently because Ryan had just voted against it.
He’s a popular guy right? Pretty wife, adorable kids. Why would he do anything unpopular?
@104
Um… That was Biden doing the talking to a room full of the decedents of slaves. if they get all up in arms about it I don’t see why I should.
My point was that if Joe Biden and Paul Ryan were to say the exact same line to the exact same crowd, it would be taken differently based on the previous actions of Ryan, Biden, Republican’s, and Democrat’s. It’s not that it’s OK for one side to say something and not OK for the other to say it. But, that it would mean different things and be taken differently and if the meaning is different and how it is taken is different why shouldn’t the response to be different as well?
Should read: Um… That was Biden doing the talking to a room full of the decedents of slaves. if they didn’t get all up in arms about it I don’t see why I should.
@109 Serially Dim and Illiterate,
You DO understand that premium supports were a bipartisan proposal, MBS. Right?
As Carl posted on this blog you troll (and by the way, do you pay anything? or are you a moocher and a looter?) yesterday, Writing a Paper Isn’t Bipartisan Legislation.
What’s your argument back to Wyden Boob? Is he wrong about what he did?
re 96 — “Biden, if you recall, wanted to carve Iraq into three separate countries.”
You mean give the Kurds, Shiites, and Sunnis separate countries so that they could proceed in this world without having to resolve their long-standing intractable differences?
You think that indicates stupidity?
Under this analysis of the Ryan budget, millionaires would get an average tax cut of $265,000 while a typical middle class household with $50,000 of income would see its taxes more than double. Ryan’s spending cuts would hit the middle class and elderly retirees even harder.
The GOP plan for the future: A great deal for millionaires, sucks for everyone else.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/20.....an-family/
Nice to see that state rep Matt Shea’s focused like a laser beam on jobs, business and lowering Spokane’s 9.4% unemployment rate (not!).
re 96: — “Ryan is perceived as someone who speaks his
retrograde prejudicesmind, which is why he’s being well-received inwingnut circlesthe right places.@117
Sounds like Ryan wants to put me back in chains like my coal mining West Virginia ancestors that were working for script in the company store.
@59 and @60. How do you guys feel about all the hate crimes against gays? Who’s fueling that fire? You probably don’t care, so why should I care if some asshole at FRC gets shot? You guys bigots?
re 111: Wyden’s concept was to provide vouchers so that deserving seniors could afford supplemental policies.
Ryan’s plan is very different — and you either don’t know that or you are lying.
# 118: Gee, isn’t the purpose of the Republicans to unshackle private enterprise from excessive regulation, and to eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse from the government?
This is a pretty good example of Republican legislaters increasing the cost of government and shackling government employees with excessive regulation.
The left-wing is responsible for the shooting at the Family Research Council. They demonized Chick-Fil-A and filled this guys head with bullshit until he popped.
108. Serial Conservative spews:
@ 107
I’m talking about the leftist idiots here at HA.
Most of them seem to believe that BASED ON THEIR COMMENTS. Anyone who believes that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan wake up thinking abut how to screw people is an idiot SC.
These HA fools are about as far-left as you can get. Look at the comments by RuJax, YLB and others. You may change your opinion.
@123 rhp6033,
You want a good example of Republican Shackle and rob?
Take a look at what the Republican House, Republican Senate and Republican President did to the USPS in 2006 with the Postal Accountability Enhancement Act.
Yeah, all for better government and less regulation my ass.
Everyone knows what’s wrong with replacing Medicaid with a Voucher program.
* Medical expenses will go up, because administrative costs for Medicare is less than 1%, but private insurance companies spend about 28% on administrative costs (including executive salaries, aggressive claims handling, advertising, etc.).
* It still requires seniors to find an insurance company that will accept them. A 75-year old man with diabetes and a heart condition would be hard pressed to find an insurer, at any cost (or at an excessively high cost).
* The voucher won’t cover the cost of premiums. And as time passes, Republicans will push for more tax cuts for the wealthy and then complain that we have to cut the vouchers even more to cover the “fiscal emergency”. There will be constant battles over how much the voucher payments will be, making senior’s budget planning difficult, if not impossible.
@117 “A great deal for millionaires, sucks for everyone else.”
That goes well with their self-worshiping world view that leaves workers as “inferior”.
@120 “Sounds like Ryan wants to put me back in chains like my coal mining West Virginia ancestors that were working for script in the company store.”
Of course. You are “inferior”, you ungrateful mooch. If only you had your mind right, Michael, you’d worship the ground Bob walks on, for it is only because of Bob and his fellow Galtian Lords that you have your daily bread.
@127 Show Republicans a problem and they’ll certainly give you a solution. Odd, though, that every problem presented to them is best solved by either giving rich people more tax cuts or privitizing government services so that rich people can profit from them, sometimes both.
One of the best writers on the web gets right to the point today. Take it away Charles Pierce
Romney says he paid over 13% every year for the past 10 years.
Harry Reid says Romney paid zero.
My money is on Romney.
Romney is demanding Reid come forth with his sources.
Unfortunately, Harry made it all up in his pointy little head. Harry is nuts and a disgrace. He needs to resign.
Gekko/Galt 2012 – Chains You People Can Believe In!
I don’t think Obama in an “angry black man”
I think he has dogshit ideas and a socialist ideology I disagree with.
I don’t think he’s an “angry black man”.
Hell, he’s livin’ a dream.
The most incompetent, unprepared amateur President in American History.
I do think Obama will be Jimmy Carter II.
Jimmy is white.
@131, Your money? What money?
Slick Willard is a known liar on what’s in or is not in his taxes.
Reid not only says he heard Slick Willard didn’t pay, his office responded to Slick Willard today.
@ 116
You need to look at where the oil is and where those demographic groups are. Then figure out how they all get their own place, when the oil isn’t distributed evenly according to population geography. Biden needed to look at that as well, and didn’t.
15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches! No self respecting left wing wacko gunman would be caught dead with 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches! You just proved the guy was a right wing wacko gunman.
@135 Serially Confused,
Hey, you do know that it was President Obama who was always against invading Iraq which cost $3 trillion of borrowed money, leaving 4,477 Americans dead, 36,395 Americans injured all for Cheney/Bush’s Miserable Failure.
And it was on President Obama’s watch that we finally ended the costly and useless 8 year occupation of Iraq.
And with Gekko/Galt we have Slick Willard and his Iraq War cheer-leading “national security advisors” who are on record to cede our policy to a foreign country, Israel.
@136
Chick-fil-a is the new twinkie defense.
Romney/Ryan wants to put working class kids that think above their station and want to go to college into the chains of student loan debt slavery for a decade after they graduate.
Hey, how’s Rob McKenna supporter, Republican Convention Keynote Address speaker, Governor of New Jersey, and America’s favorite morbidly obese loud mouth doing?
New Jersey’s unemployment rate rose in July for the fourth month in a row to 9.8 percent, a record high since 1977
Must be Obama’s fault.
ps. for extra credit guess the party of the Governor of New Jersey who holds the 1977 record?
For all the sound bites by Romney and Ryan about how bad the economy is, I’m not seeing it here in Bellevue (where I work).
At our business dinner last Tuesday, I noticed the local seafood reastaurant had raised their prices, and just about everything had become a’ la’carte, and portion sizes were diminished. (Seriously, $14.95 for shimp cocktail consisting of only four prawns?) I had expected the appetizers, soup or salad, dinner, and desert to cost about $50.00 per person (plus drinks), but it came in at more than $80 per person.
Yet the place was full. Instead of coupons or promotions, they want you to buy a frequent diner card which gives you some small benefits (a $25 credit on your bill), etc..
Going to the mall across the street, a lot of teenagers wearing expensive clothing with shopping bags full of back-to-school clothing.
Yea, I know Bellevue isn’t like other places. I live in Everett, and prices there are considerably lower. But a lot of the free coupons and promotions are gone, leaving higher prices generally.
So, it appears the retail business owners in this area don’t think they need to cut costs of give away promotions in order get business.
@141 rhp6033, depends who you are. For some these 3 1/2 years has been grand.
S&P 500 creeps near four-year high
By the way, a persistent theme of the GOP has been an insistance that college educations should be trade schools for advanced skills. If you aren’t training to be an engineer, nurse, doctor, accountant, etc., you have no business being in college.
Of course, for Ann Romney, those rules didn’t apply. She managed to spend a semester of her freshman year at Brigham Young University at Grenoble, France, coinciding with the Winter Olympics held there. She also got to see Mitt Romeny, who was near the end of his missionary tour in France. She went on to get a B.A. in French from BYU. This wouldn’t be unusual for a Morman attending BYU since most go on to a career in foreign missionary work, but Ann Romney instead got married to Mitt Romney.
So now the Republicans are going to argue that a guy with millions of dollars of earnings only paid 13% in taxes, and that proves the Democrats are wrong?
What’s wrong is the Republicans thinking that the 1% paying 13% in taxes is too high, but for everyone else – not so much.
OH NOES!
Big Meany Obama and his Chicago Thugs dare to not take the advice of John Best VP Chooser – evah! McCain, about who should be on the Obama 2012 ticket. And then they call him out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ature=plcp
Sarah is not going to be happy about this.
And what about the fee-fees of Romney? He’ll be devastated again over the angry black man!
The Student Loan Forgiveness Act.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....77116.html
What a crock of shit.
Our kids worked their way thru school plus we helped pay as we went.
No loans.
They have friends with good jobs who have never paid a fucking dime.
They have friends with lots of toys, I-phones..you name it.
And they pay nothing.
Because they believe the loans will be forgiven.
If you forgive deadbeats, how do you compensate the responsible kids who worked their asses off and paid??
This is the ultimate in political theatre and bullshit.
Obama had MoveOn.org do it in 2008 and they are trying again. Get college votes by promising to cancel debts.
Bullshit.
Obama is sticking with Biden!
http://thehill.com/homenews/ca.....nning-mate
Don’t you wish you could be a fly on the wall when Obama was talking to that stupid SOB??
Biden is an embarrassment.
A gaffe machine.
A poor record of performance and lose lips will sink the ship.
Check out Biden’s list of Gaffes. It’s monstrous.
What a complete nincompoop.
http://politicalhumor.about.co.....enisms.htm
The Romney/Ryan plan for Medicare and Medicaid is to have the poorest Americans die off, the sooner, the better. The poor won’t be able to afford private health care insurance, and our Galtian Lords damned well know it.
They find this easy to justify. Poor Americans are obviously not Galtian, so they would be perceived as “inferior”, or as my Wingnut-Speak Decoder app puts it, “expendable”.
The unused vouchers of the ill and dying elderly and poor who still can’t afford healthcare is simply more tax savings for those rich who believe they must have it all, made possible by willing fools named Bob and Klynical Klown.
We’ve heard from wingnuts many times, the poor can go to the ER. As Michael understands, there is no long-term care to be found in our nation’s ER’s. They’re sentencing people to die for being poor in America, they know it, and they don’t care. Again, it is because they view these people as “inferior”. Expendable.
Hey, you remember the time you could trust Mitt Rmoney about taxes? Me neither!
Well, he’s got that choirboy Republican House Idealogical Leader, Paul Ryan.
What’s that? GOP vice presidential hopeful Rep. Paul Ryan amended two years of his financial disclosure statements to add an income-producing trust worth between $1 million and $5 million that he had previously neglected to report.
Nobody.Could.Have.Predicted.
Oh, please believe Mitt Romney.
@141
Go to Aberdeen and you’ll see it. Talk to people who don’t have college degrees and you’ll hear about it. How you’re doing depends a lot on your location and your skill set.
@144
Romney/Paul want to shackle the chains of taxation as tightly as they can around the working class.
“Of course, for Ann Romney, those rules didn’t apply.”
I don’t see it as a big secret or anything, but generally speaking, teen Mormon girls love to fuck their brains out. There was one teen pregnancy after another at the Seattle Ward I attended. And I gained a particular knowledge I didn’t prevously have during the summer of my twelfth year spent in the appropriately named, Beaver, Utah. In fact, now that I think of it, Ann Romney looks kind of familiar. What was her maiden name?
“Romney/Paul want to shackle the chains of taxation as tightly as they can around the working class.”
Chains! That’s it! Now I remember her!
Heh. What Ann can do with a chain would blow your mind.
It is my theory that, if Herb Alpert’s “Whipped Cream Lady” had been Goldwater’s running mate in 1964, we’d be ruled by Republicans to this day, if not annihilated in a thermonuclear war. One or the other.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....dy16m.html
Up @79 I told you about House Republican Ideological Leader, Paul Ryan being a hypocrite and a liar about what he says and did with the Obama stimulus.
Well, it turns out, according to House Republican Ideological Leader, Paul I inadvertently forgot about $1 million Ryan he was not lying.
House Republican Ideological Leader, Paul Deficit Hawk Ryan routinely uses his authority to spend government money without even looking.
Yes! “Regardless” That’s the ticket.
Don’t suppose “I take responsibility” means paying back those tax dollars, does it?
Gekko/Galt – Regardless!
Maybe this is why Cathy McMorris Rodgers didn’t get the not for veep.
@158 Michael,
You’re reading it wrong cuz you’re reading it rationally. Being away from work got her into the sweet 16.
Deep Thought:
Now that you know House Republican Ideological Leader & and the Republican’s budgeting genius, Paul Deficit Hawk Ryan lost track of $1-5 million in his personal finances and admittedly mismanaged over $40 million in stimulus funds in the past two years, which ticket this fall could turn this country into Greece?
Gekko/Galt – Regardless!
This is an interesting take-down of Ayn Rand in the National Review. “The Greatly, Ghastly Rand”. Ayn and her “gas chamber” train and people deserving to die was a little too much, so the right-winger at NR had to quite literally “close the book” on her.
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....eorts?pg=1
People who deserve to die. The “inferior”. The Romney/Ryan “solution” for Medicare and Medicaid. It is to be found in the writings of Ayn Rand. Unlike the gentleman at NR, Romney/Ryan have not “closed the book” on Rand, so we’ll need to close the book on those cold, heartless bastards at the polls come November.
@157 “it’s clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy”
It’s clear that’s bullshit, so Ryan is either an ignoramus who doesn’t know the stimulus directly provided 700,000 jobs and indirectly provided 2.4 million more, or he’s a liar.
@124 BIGOT
Roger DUMB Wabbit… Here’s a clue for free… So did Dianne Feinstein DUMB Wabbit.
Sucks to be you. Seems senility is fast approaching…
Deep Thought2:
Why do you need to believe in Gekko/Galt? Because “we haven’t run the numbers” so it’s throw caution to the wind and Regardless! YIPPEE Republican CRAZY!
And you know this how Roger DUMB Wabbit. Career people? Did they stay in 20 years? Do you know Roger DUMB Wabbit?
Seems you are playing the conjecture argument again!
@ 158
Michael, any of those missed votes maternity-related? She’s had at least two, if I recall correctly, while in office.
Republicans lie through their teeth. Sack of shit mother fuckers.
161 – LMAO @ Bob’s favorite Michelle Malkin who was bleating “Go Galt” in early 2009..
Did Boberino take her advice? Did the mouldering in retirement klown? Did Dr. Butthead???
Of course not! If only. Then maybe we wouldn’t have been bothered by their drivel the past 4 years.
Oh and don’t forget. Rand herself needed Medicare and Social Security towards the end of her life.
I guess Ryan was determined to do nothing for his own constituents with the stimulus money he asked for.
Umm Steve, almost every libtard here does the same thing dude!
Progressives, losers in every light!
But hey, had there been an untrained “civilian sheep dog” hanging around with a concealed .380 he or she could have dropped the evildoers and prevented this whole tragedy.
HA leftists have this this strange animal fetish. It started in 2005 with that Seattle Boeing guy who loved his horse appendage up his butt. Roger DUMB Wabbit was one of the first to claim he was a righty because he took his “medicine” in Puyallup. When it came out he lived near the Capital District (read: leftist hangout) home of many whackjob wing nuts like those who populate HA from the leftist side.
Deputies don’t believe a crime occurred because b e s t i a l i t y is not illegal in Washington state and the horse was uninjured, said Sgt. John Urquhart.
If you’re talking about sheep or goats, there could be some issues,” said Sgt. John Urquhart. Hence Steve, escum and others love their goats so much they project it on others. A Psych 101 thing!
Not if he gives large sums to charity Roger DUMB Wabbit!
Tax year Taxable income Charitable donations Donations as % of income
2010 $21.7 million $2.98 million 13.73%
Sheesh you are seriously senile.
Romney is a felon
Romney is a murderer
Romney is a tax cheat
Yeah DUMMOCRAPTS love to lie! Sack of shit motherfuckers.
@170 Ryan is BUSTED.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....ulus-cash/
Damned lying liar. He blames constituents. Gawd, he’s stupid. In 24 hours we’ll probably all know which wingnut buddy of his got the money to “create jobs” and “stimulate the economy”, as Ryan puts it.
No wonder wingnuts have started babbling incoherently about Biden. Romney just pulled off the worst rollout of a VP candidate in history.
Why is ylbistchslapped ylbuttspigot a misogynist?
Oh wow Steve, that’s a real smoking gun! Oh noes!
First Ryan had to deny Ayn Rand three times before the cock crowed at dawn. Check! Then he had to walk back from his economic plan even as Romney teetered back and and forth, announcing with each new day a new “plan”. Check! And now this latest news, exposing further the blatant hypocrisy and lies of the rising wingnut superstar, Paul “I need me some mo’ stimulous money!” Ryan. Checkmate!
Gawd, it must suck to be a Republican these days.
Serial Conservative…
Don’t engage dorky dorkman… it’s the racist one headless lucy!
@ 179
Joe Lieberman underwent quite the makeover shortly after being named VP nominee by The Goreacle. He was a foreign policy hawk and had to back down quite a bit from his more conservative leanings in order to fit the Dem mold that prevailed at that time.
Well MSNBC went there…
Right up rujax’ alley!
Me.. Nope.. Michelle Malkin being a Randian idiot is a fact.
You?
Documented.
Dr. Butthead
Speaking of Ron Wyden… Oopsie!
I saw
Amazing… No wonder the libtards don’t want anyone to know about Ron Wyden…
Oopsie!
@181 Now it’s Lieberman as well as Biden. At least you don’t attempt to defend Ryan. That’s understandable. What’s left for a teabagger to defend? Sad, how you have to watch as the Romney campaign neuters him. What’s left of him now? Perhaps you really do grasp that the Ryan selection and how it was handled by the Romney campaign was a horrible mistake.
Another EPIC FAYLE from the moron.
ylb, bitchslapped again. Love kicking the ylb buttspigot!
This is informational more than anything else:
“But with outside groups’ help, Romney and his supporters — or Team Romney — are outspending President Obama and his allies — Team Obama — $273 million to $239 million.
For the past month, Team Romney has outspent Team Obama by nearly 2-to-1. But that margin is up to 2.5-to-1 this week — with Team Romney outspending Team Obama $25.8 million to $11.1 million.
Part of that is the Romney campaign is almost on par with the Obama campaign this week. The Romney campaign is spending $8.4 million to the Obama camp’s $9.9 million.”
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_.....llion?lite
I guess I will say that since the race has tightened in the past couple of weeks, and since Team Romney (including PACs) has ramped up spending, I suppose it might be possible that it’s the spending that’s behind the tightening.
If so, we’re gonna see an awful lot of ads in October.
Gotta love Ann Coulter… She never pulls a punch!
@176
Hey man, quit chaining Ryan to facts!
I’d like to punch Coulter the same way I’d like to punch Maher.
Indeed. Epic fail on your part. No one I know of has characterized your relatives as cheap labor for a vineyard on account of their ethnicity.
You reserve such bigotry for yourself.
Have y’all noticed how DUMMOCRAPTS and their slobbering libtard msm are circling the wagons around the “chains” comments of Joe BiteMe?
NAALCP, Black Caucus, etc. Yet they think the vile ad against Allen West is not racist because Allen West is a Republican.
These are your peeps rujax. Reservation dweller!
Hmmmm. Is the resident right wing expert on misogyny going to chime in now?
Of course not. It’s a right winger having these kind of thoughts.
Myself, I wouldn’t wish anything more violent on Anne Coulter than a glitter bomb. Of course a trip to the hoosegow would be justice as well
Oh my another diarrhea trail @192. Another buttspigot after his previous bitchslap!
ylbitchslapped ylbuttspigot all over this blog.
Why? Only Maher is the big misogynist. And the HA leftists love him.
Here’s some predictable b.s. from the Family Council:
“Let me be clear that Floyd Corkins was responsible for firing the shot yesterday,” Family Research Council President Tony Perkins told reporters in Washington about the suspect. “But Corkins was given a license to shoot an unarmed man by organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center that have been reckless in labeling organizations hate groups because they disagree with them on public policy.” Perkins said the SPLC “should be held accountable for their reckless use of terminology that is leading to the intimidation and what the FBI here has categorized as an act of domestic terrorism.”
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/.....?hpt=hp_t1
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Oh my. The leader of a hate group doesn’t like being called a “hate group.” Yep, that was predictable. And yes, it’s b.s., because any bunch that preaches hate against strangers who want nothing more than the right to choose their domestic partners is indeed a hate group.
To avoid any possible misunderstanding, the shooter is a criminal and should be kept off the streets for a long, long time if not forever. Anyone who uses a gun to express his political opinions should be locked up.
One more thing. Speaking of giving people a “license” to shoot people they disagree with, I think the NRA has a lot more to do with this than the SPLC does.
BINGO!
Yup.
199. Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:
Duh!
Like I thought. Bob is excused.
Thanks for playing.
http://swampland.time.com/2012.....topstories
As usual the Dullard (R-Money) campaign propaganda is shown to be nothing but lying and fear-mongering time after time.
Has anyone refuted the $716 Billion cuts from the libtard side? Well known spokesman Dead Schultz hasn’t.
There goes Roger DUMB Wabbit throwing out wild ass conjecture.
Where has the FRC spouted hate Roger DUMB Wabbit? Find a link and post it. Remember, this same Southern Poverty Law Center, when confronted, will NOT label the New Black Panther Party – you know – the ones who have recently said HATE in their message a hate group.
So Tony Perkins is spot on with his comment above! And this is why they have no credibility…
Blogroll Of the Southern Poverty Law Center! Blogs used by HA libtards in bold!
AlterNet
Americablog
Anti-Neo-Confederate
Bad Guys
Balloon Juice
Center for American Progress
Center for New Community
Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism
Citizen Orange
Colorado Media Matters
Commentary by David A. Love
Crooks and Liars
Daily Kos
Damn Mexicans
Democracy Now
Dispatches from the Culture Wars
Ending Racism
Eschaton
Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting
Feathered Bastard
Firedoglake
Fitness for the Occasion
Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters
Imagine 2050
Immigration Impact
Jesus’ General
Media Matters
Newshounds
Orcinus
Pam’s House Blend
Pharyngula
Religious Right Watch
Right Wing Watch
Talk to Action
Talking Points Memo
Temple of Democracy
The Conspiracy Mirror
The Defenders Online
Think Progress
Wonkette
The leftist of the leftist there! Nuff SAID Sucka! Come back after you thought out a real argument Roger DUMB Wabbit! When they call out REAL leftist pinhead hatred come back and try again!
See ya
Leftist misogyny from a leftist!
Sucks to be ylbitchslapped ylbuttspigot.
You love being bitchslapped ylbuttspigot.
ROTFLRHMBBAO!
Wow, will this get slobbering libtard msm attention?
Wow,
When the Politico leftists report it, you know they are concerned!
HAHAHA
He’s you guy libtards. Personally I think he’s a closet racist.
in chains
Obummer a clean cut articulate black man
7-1 and Dunkin Donuts shops owned by Indians
Tooooooooooooooooooo
Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny
Democrats continue to try to commit voter registration fraud. The new name of Move-On.org is VOter Participation Center. What a travesty.
http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....-eyebrows/
Amid increasing rumors that Joe Biden’s spot on the ticket is at state, American Crossroads takes a bold stand in support of our embattled VP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
Nobody messes with Joe.
Valerie Jarrett excluded, of course.
Since the announcement of Paul Ryan as VP in Norfolk, Virginia on Saturday:
Online Fundraising
Donations: 124,800+
Amount: $10,157,947
Average Donation: $81
% New Donors: 68%
Seems like a lot of the Obama/Biden love is gone. What happened to all the love??
The Romney and Ryan crowds have been huge. Lines are stretching around the block. Obama spoke to a half-empty (the left described it as “half-full”) room in his hometown of Chi-Town. Biden spoke to a dismal crowd of 660 people in North Carolina. The day before saw two huge Romney/Ryan rallies, one had nearly 5000 people, the other far exceeded 10,000. Romney and Ryan then went on to speak separately to large overcapacity crowds in Florida, Wisconsin, and Iowa.
It seems like the lovefest is faltering. Sputtering.
Also, what was Doug Wilder, former Democrat Virginia Governor doing weighing in on the Biden Chains blather? Seems like Joe is even pissing off African-American Democrats. Hell, Wilder was even introduced at a Romney rally.
What is going on? Appears the Obama circle of love has lots of holes in it.
Yesterday, Roger Rabbit informed us that he made $1,850 in the stock market:
http://horsesass.org/?p=45441&.....nt-1176844
That’s after posting repeatedly during the day how much he was up.
DJIA was up 85 points, or 1.006%, at the close of trading yesterday.
Roger’s gain was probably pretty close to 1.006% of his stock market holdings, which I would then calculate to be $183,896.
If he’s a former attorney and that’s all he’s put away, he probably wasn’t a very good one. Even if his stock holdings are half of what he’s got, the rest in bonds or what-have-you, that really isn’t much by today’s standards. Certainly nothing to brag about.
If I were a retiree and that’s what I had in my retirement account, I’d be embarrassed about it rather than bragging continuously about it during the day.
Just sayin’.
Democratic politicians are taking action to rein in the ability of crazy people to form private armies (aka militias, posse comitatus, etc.), arm themselves with military weapons, and accumulate ammunition stockpiles such as you would use to fight a war.
Look for Republicans, some of whom openly advocate civil war and putting liberals in Hitler-style concentration camps, to obstruct these efforts.
http://tinyurl.com/9coly5y
Republicans claim businesses need more certainty in order to hire workers; but House Republicans are sitting on a farm bill that would bring relief to drought-stricken farmers because they don’t want to feed hungry people:
Explaining the opposition by some Republicans to the farm bill, Branstad said, ‘The biggest problem I think a lot of people have is … the food stamp program. We have more people on food stamps than ever before; … and a lot of people think they need to tighten that up … .’
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com.....elief?lite
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Why do Cheap Labor Conservatives support mass starvation of unemployed families? So they’ll accept jobs paying $1 a day?
“Roger’s gain was probably pretty close to 1.006% of his stock market holdings, which I would then calculate to be $183,896.”
You assume that a retired person has their entire retirement account invested in individual stock positions.
That would be your financial advise to a retiree, Bob? That’s what you would do with your retirement account? Good luck with that.
Just sayin’.
@ 215
RR, posting with his head up his ass once again.
From his own link:
“Responding to the drought, the House did pass a stand-alone $256 million disaster relief bill to help farmers, ranchers, orchard owners, and nursery tree growers on Aug. 2. The vote was 233 to 197, with 35 Democrats, many from farm states such as Iowa and Indiana, joining 188 Republicans in supporting the bill. But that measure is not a full five-year farm bill.”
RR, that’s a quarter of a billion dollars directed specifically at drought-related recipients. The larger bill is a 5-year spending bill currently weighed down with the usual add-ons that typically don’t get stripped away or otherwise whittled down until the last minute.
Market’s up 19 points (DJIA) as I type this, RR. Help us all out by telling us how much richer you are at this very moment than you were yesterday, will ya?
A new study shows moms have suffered the most from the Great Recession.
The study, which looked at the outcomes for laid-off workers across the United States, found that married women with kids spent more time in-between jobs than married dads. Making matters worse … was the big pay cut they took once they finally found a job: On average moms lost $175 per week more than dads ….
http://tinyurl.com/8zpoqco
Roger Rabbit Commentary: I wonder if there’s any connection between this, GOP opposition to food assistance for unemployed families, and the fact Republicans have a massive gender problem with female voters?
“Amid increasing rumors that Joe Biden’s spot on the ticket is at state”
Your Republican ship is fast sinking thanks to the nomination of Romney and his VP selection of Ryan and you keep blathering on about Joe Biden? Denial seems a very strange way for you to deal with your own acute case of buyer’s remorse, Bob.
Which is in great contrast to Romney solo events. Reminds me of another flaccid Republican campaign…who was it that fired up their base and drew huge crowds, only to further marginalize and minimize the guy at the top?
Oh yeah, Sarah “Caribou Barbie” Palin. Also.
@ 216
I actually addressed that, and then stripped it out. Even assuming he’s got 50% stock and 50% non-stock, that still isn’t much for a retired attorney.
Certainly not enough to tell us about, repeatedly.
Although it not for that, what would RR do with his day?
You can still dump both Romney and Ryan at the convention, Bob. That would fix your buyers remorse. Unless, of course, all those crazy teabaggers in Tampa end up nominating Palin/Bachmann instead.
@ 219
If the GOP ship is sinking fast, shouldn’t someone tell the pollsters?
They mostly seem to be showing a tightening race.
I wanted to post about WI.
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2.....ad-of.html
Senate race there looks to be a pickup for the GOP.
Would Obama campaign there? Would he campaign with Tammy Baldwin?
Think about WI – Walker, Priebus, Ryan. Now Thompson stomping Baldwin.
Obama needs those 10 electoral votes. But outside Madison, he’s got nothing to gain by campaigning there.
If he does campaign there, he’ll be tied to a losing Senate candidate and there’s the whole Walker-Barrett thing hanging over his head.
If he doesn’t campaign there, then the WI momentum favoring the GOP could spread to MI, MN. Maybe more to IA and even OH.
Wisconsin’s become a HUGE problem for the Dems, with serious national implications.
Thanks again, unions!!!!!!!
@221 Pathetic.
@ 220
Absolutely, you are right about the contrast.
Romney’s running a totally different campaign now that he’s picked Ryan.
He’s focused, specific, even doing chalk-talks now:
http://minx.cc/?post=331982
I’ll admit, he looked awkward, but he’ll get better.
Will we see Obama turning to numbers? Doubt it, unless they’re the type of numbers that can quickly be debunked.
We already know about Ryan and his ability to deal with numeric specifics.
Ah, and then there’s Joe Biden. He’s been taken off the campaign trail twice now, in August.
The White House hasn’t released Biden transcripts for two months, now:
http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....7414.story
I wonder why that is?
Contrast, indeed. You nailed it. Thanks for bringing it up.
@ 224
Pathetic is right. How else to describe a life spent bragging incessantly about some unimpressive retirement account and posting 100,000+ times on some blog?
Roger’s world.
There are fewer “swing” voters out there than most people believe — and Republicans need:
“About one-third of Americans describe themselves as independent voters, creating a widespread impression that a large group of Americans will provide the decisive swing votes in this year’s election. But that impression is misleading …. [T]he actual share of voters … up for grabs is probably between … 3 percent and 5 percent in this election, polling experts say. … The share of swing voters may even have declined in recent years, as many voters have become more … partisan.”
http://tinyurl.com/8frpah3
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Why is this bad news for Republicans (and HA’s self-flagellating trolls)? Because if the election were held today, Obama would win several swing states R-Money needs, so the GOP ticket has no chance unless they can win over significant numbers of persuadable voters in those states. That’s not possible if those votes are already locked in.
The problem is especially acute for R-Money because he’s not getting a “bump” from putting Paul “Privatize Medicare” Ryan on the ticket: “But so far, the Gallup tracking poll has not indicated any immediate bump, even though vice-presidential choices have historically provided one.”
Which leaves Republicans with their last desperate option: When you’re the minority party and the public is against you, the only way you can win is by preventing massive numbers of citizens from voting.
Therefore, look for the GOP to go all-out with voter-suppression efforts. Those photo-IDs they made everyone get won’t be good enough — Republican pollmeisters will find excuses to reject poor and minority voters’ photo IDs. And Republicans once again will spend millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours to keep soldiers deployed to combat zones from voting or having their votes counted.
http://www.gregpalast.com/mass.....-soldiers/
It looks like your flailing VP candidate needs to find himself a new “favorite band”.
http://www.rollingstone.com/mu.....t-20120816
“Manson loved the Beatles.”
Ouch!!
Romney Lies About Medicare
Mitt Romney, who knows his running mate’s scheme to privatize Medicare is a dealbreaker for millions of senior voters, now asserts Ryan’s so-called “reform” is the same thing as “Medicare Advantage.”
He’s lying. Medicare Advantage is defined-benefit; Ryan’s voucher scheme is defined-contribution. Seniors will get less benefits under the Ryan plan — and their coverage will be capped. Which makes the Ryan scheme the “death panels” Republicans told scare stories about just a couple of short years ago when Obama was trying to expand the health care coverage that Republicans now want to rescind.
http://tinyurl.com/9hc87mu
@ 227
1. You are, again, applying a national tracking poll to individual states. You really should stop doing that.
2. The election won’t be held today. Meanwhile, the polls are tightening and we are approaching the post-convention period when the Romney money will be released.
3. Nate Silver just this week indicated that, on average, Ryan gave the ticket a +0.9% bump, and that some states went up as much as 5%.
Nate Silver
✔
@fivethirtyeight
Romney’s Ryan bounce across 11 polls thus far: +5, +5, +2, +2, +2, 0, 0, 0, -2, -2, -2. So, take your pick. +0.9 on average
4. Then there’s this:
Swing state poll: After picking Ryan, Romney now leads in Ohio, Virginia — and Florida
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....d-florida/
RR, you keep posting things not substantiated by facts.
Is it possible that picking Ryan has backfired on the Mittster, as everyone said it would?
” … [W]hat have learned in the week since Mitt Romney tapped Paul Ryan to be his running mate? … [T]he pick has given the Romney campaign a shot of energy …. But that energy hasn’t … translated to … polls … showing a minimal bounce. … [It] has shifted the issue terrain to Medicare, not only in the presidential contest but also the battle for the House …. [and] marked the most negative turn in the campaign so far with … Romney accusing the Obama camp of engaging in ‘division and anger and hate’ … so much for that promise of a more high-minded debate ….”
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_.....later?lite
Roger Rabbit Commentary: I think the GOP’s campaign tactics will get even dirtier from here. They have to, because Romney’s not getting traction, the Ryan pick is stillborn, and there’s not much time left for the GOPers to turn things around. And, besides, demonizing Obama is the only thing they know how to do.
Ryan, it turns out, is just another lying two-faced politician.
“Yesterday, we learned that the Wisconsin congressman was talking tough on China’s currency manipulation, even though he voted against a 2010 House bill that would have cracked down on China’s currency manipulation. Also yesterday, he told a Cincinnati TV station that he didn’t ask for money from the $787 billion stimulus when the record shows he did, and he later acknowledged sending the letters to the Energy Department requesting funds for two companies. As we wrote earlier in the week, there’s a potential danger for Ryan sounding a like a typical politician, which would undermine one of [his] biggest perceived strengths.”
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_.....later?lite
Roger Rabbit Commentary: So much for the GOP’s version of that “hopey-changy thing.”
@226 “incessantly”
Typical wingnut. You make something up, in this case, the total amount in Roger’s retirement account. By “incessantly” repeating it, you hope that what you pull from your ass becomes fact.
That is just one of the things that is really fucking pathetic about you, Bob.
By the way, your new friend, the Klynical Klown, is well known for “incessantly” posting his Wells Fargo trades. He’d post on a Thurday that he had bought Wells Fargo earlier on Monday and that he had just sold it for a big profit. That must have been the subject of half of his tens of thousands of comments. Are you dissing him too?
My friend Puddy is the second most prolific commenter in these threads. Are you dissing him too?
R-Money’s 2009 tax return looms ever larger.
“[T]he Obama campaign sent a letter to the Romney camp making this offer: If Romney releases just five years of returns (including the 2010 and 2011 he has given/pledged to give), the Obama camp promises NOT to criticize him for not releasing more. ‘I repeat, the governor and his campaign can expect in return that we will refrain from questioning whether he has released enough or pressing for more,’ Obama manager Jim Messina wrote to Romney manager Matt Rhoades. (Note: This offer doesn’t seem to pertain to WHAT’S IN the tax returns.)”
The Romney camp refused. Obviously, there’s something in Romney’s last 5 years of tax returns they don’t want us to know. But he’s already released 2010 and 2011, so it has to be in 2007, 2008, or 2009. As previously pointed out, 2009 is the year when the IRS offered amnesty from prosecution to rich taxpayers who evaded taxes by hiding income in Swiss banks and offshore accounts like those in the Cayman Islands, and Romney is known to have had Swiss and Cayman Islands accounts, so it isn’t hard to connect the dots.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_.....later?lite
Roger Rabbit @ 227
I saw the same article you quote about swing voters. Your spin is that it is bad for R’s and it means Romney can’t win certain swing states. However, you have been consistently quoting Democrat Poll numbers, not the Poll of Polls. If you truly believe the current spreads based on a single Left-swinging Poll, I can see how you can come to that conclusion. However, many recent polls show the races in key states tightening (except for your left-swinging push polls).
I suspect it is currently much closer than you allege. And that these 3-5% swing voters will break to Romney…meaning this is a toss-up.
Romney/Ryan have the money edge on Obama.
Ryan is a great campaigner.
Biden is an embarrassment.
Ryan will be actively on the campaign trail until November.
Crazy Joe will be reading from prepared scripts and be kept in his mom’s basement.
VP’s don’t normally matter much.
Ryan has the campaigning edge…he is very knowledgeable & respected as Erskine Bowles said.
Biden is a complete joke and gaffe machine.
Time will tell.
It will be interesting where things stand post-Conventions.
@234–
I expect Romney to eventually agree, when Obama releases all his college applications and transcripts to prove he didn’t pretend to be a foreign student to gain financially and with preferences.
I’d like to see it all on the table…tax returns and transcripts/apps.
Obama aka Barry Soetoro, will never do it.
Why??
232. Roger Rabbit spews:
This is a tough issue to push for Obama because of Solyndra and all the other wasted tax dollars on failed energy companies who happened to be lead by Obama donors and bundlers.
But by all means, keep trying.
“No, I’m not gonna vote [against] something then write letters to the government to send us money,” Ryan responded. “I did not request any stimulus money.”
Yawn. He lies… He lies all the time. Typical right wing degenerate, this time with Ayn “gas chamber” Rand twist.
@ 233
If Roger Rabbit would release his tax returns, then we would know what he actually has.
I think that 12 years will do it.
No, make it 5. Five years.
http://www.barackobama.com/pre.....t-rhoades1
Yeah. That’s the ticket.
Five years and I promise not to laugh at Roger Rabbit’s portfolio. (Note that I don’t promise that all the others won’t laugh or make accusations – just I won’t.)
You Didn’t Build That!
and
“Unchain Wall Street!” Biden said, voice rising, prompting boos. “They’re going to put y’all back in chains,” he added, to a mixture of applause and agreeing jeers. To a mainly African-American crowd in an African-American community.
You will see these clips repeatedly to Election Day. It is a fight for the truly Undecided 5%. Lack of respect for business owners/entrepreneurs and race-baiting will not help with this undecided 5%.
Heh. And still the answer is no… Dullard is hiding something…
Why hide? His own father never saw the need.
@239– (Note that I don’t promise that all the others won’t laugh or make accusations – just I won’t.)
Therein lies the trap and how ludicrous the White House offer is. Obama can’t speak for all his surrogates. If Romney releases those returns, the surrogates will demand more. No thanks.
Just release Barry Soetoro’s transcripts and college apps first. Then Romney’s camp will promise to release 5 years tax returns.
You first Barry Soetoro.
@241–
Obama/Barry Soetoro’s college transcripts and applications first please. Obama is obviously hiding something.
The smoking guns:
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-co.....rs0813.pdf
Four letters in all.
I thought right wingers were against “free stuff” from the “Porkulus”..
Guess they’re lying hypocrites. Why should anyone sane vote for them?
I’d be pretty surprised if Dullard (R-Money)’s dad submitted those.
He must have been hiding something.
I suspect the Romney camp has those transcripts and applications at this point.
We’ll be seeing more and more of Michelle’s college papers like this one
http://www.politico.com/pdf/08.....51-751.pdf
Then we’ll get to Barry Soetoro.
It’s 2-1/2 months until Election Day.
Romney is a patient man with this transcript issue.
Certainly Obama portrayed himself, via Barry Soetoro, as a foreign student to gain preference. How will the Undecideds react to that??
“Five years and I promise not to laugh at Roger Rabbit’s portfolio.”
You’re laughing at what you pulled from your own ass, Bob. Name a reputable fund manager who recommends a 100% allocation, or even 50%, in individual stocks as you used to calculate Roger’s total retirement account.
More gimmicks:
http://news.yahoo.com/exclusiv.....iness.html
It was less than a month ago that HAers were saying Obama should get credit for some decline in gas prices.
Does that mean Obama gets the blame for the run-up?
Memory check:
Regular gasoline/gallon $1.84 ↓ .01
Diesel fuel/gallon $2.27 ↓ .03
http://news.consumerreports.or.....-2009.html
Cereal Bob’s estimate of my stock holdings is wrong; in addition, he has completely overlooked three other major asset classes: State pension, home equity, and ownership of a small business.
He makes another error by assuming my stocks’ performance tracks market indexes. That would be true only if all my money was invested in a market-index ETF, but it should be obvious to anyone who has been reading my previous posts that I invest in individual stocks. The whole point of doing so is to beat the market averages. If you’re not trying to do that, then you should put your money into a market-index ETF and not waste your time studying the economy, various industries, market trends, and individual companies and stocks.
It’s possible, of course, that a gain of $1850 on a day when the market goes up 1% could be a substantial underperformance in relation to the market indexes. That would be true if my stock portfolio exceeds $182k. But it also would be meaningless, because a portfolio holding dozens of individual stocks will be all over the map on any given day. What matters is long-term performance. What is more interesting is when I make $4000 on a day when the market is down by 1% or more. There are such days. I’ll give you only one specific figure: My best-ever year was 2009, the year of the Great Recession’s deepest stock crash — I made a 90% overall portfolio gain in 2009.
No one who has read my previous posts, and has been paying attention, could possibly think I have any money whatsoever in bonds. Why would a rabbit who goes around saying bonds are the most dangerous investment there is in a zero-interest environment, own any bonds?
I don’t wish to disclose my finances — I’m not running for public office — but I’ll say this. By the time the Great Recession Struck, Mrs. Rabbit and I had zero debt and all of our income came from non-employer sources. I’ll let you decide whether that was dumb or smart.
@246 Hey, Klown, how about posting another one of your dumbfuck racist jokes? Bob’s a racist too, so he won’t mind.
While we are at it, let’s have Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid release his tax returns and explain how he got rich.
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....y-woodruff
What a crook!
@244 Begging for gub’mint money for green buildings? WTF? I take it that Paul Ryan must be some kind of Girl Scout cookie-chomping liberal-fascist. What would Ayn think? No wonder the Klown and Bob can’t stop talking about Biden. To speak of Ryan after these revelations must pain them deeply.
@239 If I ever run for president, I’ll release my last 30 years of tax returns. I promise.
OK, let’s talk about Joe Biden’s big contributors miraculously getting $20 Million loan to open a Luxury Car Dealership in the fucking Ukraine!
Explain this deal–
http://dailycaller.com/2012/08.....eral-loan/
sources close to Paul’s abs tell us Ryan has totally transformed his midsection in the past couple of years … and now he’s totally shredded with a killer 6-pack.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/17/.....z23pG1rcva
Not sure how he stacks up against former Rep. Weiner.
@252 Last I heard the self-described “pro-family” haters are boycotting Girl Scout cookies.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/.....ut-cookies
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Yep, you heard that right, the wingnut goatfuckers even hate the GIRL SCOUTS. They hate the GIRL SCOUTS for chrissakes!! Yet they still claim, with straight faces, to be “pro-family.” Sheesh.
The answer isn’t shooting up their place, though. That guy should be locked up for good. The proper response to people like this is to ignore them.
I hope we can all agree the best way to create wealth is to produce something and EXPORT it. We are in big trouble because of all our IMPORTING.
Scott Walker, Ryan’s good friend, shows how it is done..
This week, the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection (DATCP) and the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation released figures for Wisconsin’s exports through the first half of 2012. And they had great news to report.
Wisconsin exported $1.5 billion worth of agricultural products to over 132 countries, which is an increase of 5 percent over the first six months of 2011. Over the same time, U.S. exports of agricultural products totaled $77 billion—a decrease of 4 percent.
Wisconsin’s total exports grew by 7.9 percent in the second quarter of 2012, with specific increases in the exports of industrial machinery, agricultural products, vehicles, and medical and scientific instruments. Wisconsin exports totaled $11.6 billion in the first quarter of 2012.
So US Exports of Agricultural Products is DOWN 4% and Wisconsin is UP 5%.
Do you think the Wisconsin farmers are happy?
But hey, THEY DIDN’T BUILD THAT BUSINESS. Obama/Barry Soetoro did!! Just ask him.
257 – Walker is a joke..
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50.....t-stories/
Where’s the jobs he promised?
Oh he’s waiting till November.. Hmmm. I thought he had a plan that would would work regardless of what happens to politicians in DC..
Guess not. What a miserable right wing liar.
If you hadn’t noticed klown, the heartland is in a miserable drought.. Crop failures are rampant.
Wisconsin being a bit North is somewhat sheltered from that.
With global warming, freaking CANADA will be the new breadbasket with states like WI getting some sloppy seconds.
# 239: Pray tell, on what form does one report their entire stock holdings?
Stocks are reported on federal income tax returns only when a taxable event occurs, typically a sale of the stock. So RR would have to report taxable earnings only to the extent that he recognized taxable earnings (capital gains) on the sale of the stock. If he decides to keep the stock until he dies, no taxable transaction occurs. His heirs wouldn’t have to pay taxes either, they take his stock with a stepped-up basis meaning that the capital gains are, in effect, forgiven. That’s why the Republicans hate the estate tax so much – it recaptures those capital gains.
@251 Let’s assume, arguendo, that Woodruff is right about making his millions from (legal) insider trading. When the public demanded this practice be banned for members of Congress, who pushed the bill through Congress, and who dragged their feet? And while we’re on this subject, let’s not overlook this:
“It should probably come as no surprise to anyone that someone like Paul Ryan would trade on inside information gained through his position as a congressman to line his pockets, but this particular instance is especially egregious.
“Ryan attended a closed meeting with congressional leaders, Bush’s Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke on September 18, 2008. The purpose of the meeting was to disclose the coming economic meltdown and beg Congress to pass legislation to help collapsing banks.
“Instead of doing anything to help, Ryan left the meeting and on that very same day Paul Ryan sold shares of stock he owned in several troubled banks and reinvested the proceeds in Goldman Sachs, a bank that the meeting had disclosed was not in trouble.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021124380
Roger Rabbit Commentary: The short response is they all do it, or a lot of them do, and they shouldn’t be allowed to — this shouldn’t be a partisan issue. This is one thing we all should be able to get together on. And, in fact, Congress did send a bill to President Obama for his signature. Which shows what’s possible when the public puts enough pressure on Congress and the political parties.
Nope. The proper response is to hold their behavior up to the light and ridicule them.
Laugh our fucking asses off with derisive guffaws. Point and laugh. Make it clear that they’re extremist yahoos that couldn’t think their way out of a wet paper bag. Perkins and Dobson and Romney and Ryan, peas in a fucking pod.
@261 Are you referring to # 239?
@ 259
Where’s the jobs he promised?
Er, same place as the 500,000 jobs per month Biden said would be created? Remember ‘Welcome to the Recovery’?
Go looking there and you might find a lot of Walker’s jobs.
265 – LMAO!!! So you’re saying Walker is no better than Biden..
Wow just Wow!
Oh get this.. Paul Ryan may be a miserable tax dodger:
http://www.timmyfalcon.com/unc.....-a-decade/
Not saying one way or another. Just we’ll see how this plays out.
Hey it’s tough to live on a Congressman’s salary. I guess.
Before we get off the subject of my personal finances, I want to make two things clear, and they’re interrelated:
1. I was a career state employee.
2. I’m not a millionaire.
I chose a career that helps people instead of one that makes money. I simply tried to manage the little money that public servants make in an intelligent way. My basic strategies were to (1) get out of debt and (2) save instead of spend.
I feel pretty confident that I was right about this. A couple years ago, I read a book called “The Millionaire Next Day,” by a couple of academic types who researched the characteristics of America’s millionaires. What they found is:
1. Over half of America’s millionaires live in homes worth less than $300,000 and have blue-collar lifestyles.
2. Most people who live in million-dollar homes and drive fancy cars have little or no net worth.
I thought that was instructive. It makes sense when you think about it: You can’t save or invest money that you spend. And once money is spent, it’s gone, so spent money doesn’t create any net worth. In other words, no one ever spent their way to wealth.
Hey, anyone know much about the Chicago Tribune paper?? Look:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....0081.story
A paper that leans kind of right.. What’s their latest editorial say?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....0945.story
I love it when our trolls are proved relentlessly, day after grinding day, to be so wrong. Why would any intelligent person hold such views?
Republicans, you gotta love ’em.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/on.....chamber/2/
GOP Slogan – “Have you Fucked your Mother Today? What are you waiting for?”
I remember the “Dukakis Moment”.
That was the day I realized the Massachusetts Governor didn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning.
There’s another former Massachusetts Governor running for President.
He had his “Dukakis Moment” today.
Buh bye, Willard.
Wow this news must really suck for the klown:
Mitt Romney Has Actually Fallen 5 Points In This Conservative-Leaning Poll Since The Paul Ryan Announcement
The pathetic klown pasted Scotty Raz nearly 800 times here in the threads in 2008-2010..
OMG! Get a load of the Klown comment @257! There’s no link!! OMFG!!! Oh, and look at that, not even an attribution.
Where the fuck is Link Cop Bob when we need him?
I’ll say. He gave his “chalk-talk” about MEDICARE!!!
http://www.businessinsider.com.....get-2012-8
I thought he was all about jobs..
Exactly what David Frum predicted what would happen to this pathetic clown-show of a campaign.
@265 “Remember ‘Welcome to the Recovery’?”
Remember? That’s rich, coming from someone who forgets why we needed a damned recovery in the first place. Republicans never talk about that. Unless they’re lying. You ran this nation into the ditch. You’ve never accepted any responsibility whatsoever. Rather, you’ve spent the last four years whining and blaming others for your failures, all while dropping racist code-turds as you seeth with over-the-top hatred of this country’s president.
Go to hell.
RR @ # 264: Yes, in my previous post I was referring to post # 239, where the troll want’s to deduce your portfolio by looking at your tax returns. My point was that tax returns are a very incomplete manner of determining one’s portfolio.
It’s the difference in accounting between looking at an income/loss statement and a balance sheet.
Although if one were applying for a loan, a bank would be very interested in seeing a complete list of one’s portfolio.
“Wow this news must really suck for the klown”
Heh. The wingnut poll of polls. The link said the president’s approval rating also jumped up 5 points. Ouch!
“The pathetic klown pasted Scotty Raz nearly 800 times here in the threads in 2008-2010..”
The power of the “databaze”! Something Bob should think about the next time he lies about making racist comments in these threads.
In other “local” news, pudgey over at (un)SP is puffing and pumping what Digby calls “easily construed as a call for a military coup, which is as un-American as if gets.”
If you follow the link you’ll see that the org and ‘movement’ that pudgey is fluffing has a billboard up that says in part”
that says
“REMOVE the OTHER in NOVEMBER”
Good to see pudgey showing his stripes.
@279 Ricky D’s comment accusing Seattle Jew of being bigoted against, um, Jews is a laugh riot. A true Klown show.
Sorry I haven’t been able to join in on todays discussion, my boss has had me chained to my desk all morning.
For the past two months (at least), there’s been lots of speculation of what Mitt is hiding in the returns he refuses to disclose.
But after seeing Ann Romney’s interview, in which she showed flashes of anger at questions about the tax returns, and vowed that no more returns would be released, I have a theory.
Many wealthy people write off their horses as “investments” or “business expenses”. This includes the cost of purchasing the horse (subject to depreciation), and the considerable expenses for the care of the horse (boarding, feed, grooms, trainers, etc.). Potential income could come from race/award prizes, stud fees, selling offspring, etc.
Now there is a substantial personal componant to these expenses. A large portion of real estate can be allocated to stables, barns, pastuer, and tracks. The owner gets to travel (tax-deductable) to wherever the horse is being shown, where they will hob-knob with those few who can also afford to engage in the busess/hobby. But the IRS will usually not question the legitimacy of those expenses, as long as there is eventually some profit shown.
So – how are Ann’s dressage horses treated on the Romney joint tax returns? Will a scrutiny reveal tens of thousands of dollars in air travel to attend competitions, special horse-breeding club membership fees, etc.?
My guess is that this is where Ann Romney has put her foot down – she doesn’t want anybody second-guessing the money she spends on her horses and the associated socializing. That’s HER exclusive area within the marriage, and she’s not going to let Mitt’s campaign intefere with that.
Yea, I know, Morman’s are notoriously paternalistic and don’t give women much role in the decision-making in the household. But within an individual relationship, some give-and-take is required. Ann probably allowed Mitt to run for President even though she would probably have preferred to live a wealthy lifestyle outside the public eye. In return, Romney might have promised Ann that his campaign wouldn’t impact her dressage hobby.
@281 “chained”
Hmm, I don’t recall ever seeing this racist side of you before, Michael. Heh.
@283
Spoofing the fake outrage that the Republicans had over Joe Biden’s comment.
@284 Me too.
These white supremacists aren’t the first jackasses to murder someone because they thought his name “sounded Jewish.”
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/.....te-crimes/
Peter Goldmark’s brother and his family were murdered by a white supremacist who mistakenly thought they were Jewish.
@ 284
I do not believe you understand GOP resentment over what he said.
The GOP is less upset over what he said than about the fact that so little was made of it in the media. The point the GOP makes is that had one of them done what Biden did, there would be a host of leftist objection and across-the-board accusations of racism.
The outrage is over the double standard insofar as the media response is concerned, and not over what Biden said.
OTOH, Romney says Obama is ‘angry’ and some guy with one-word name like he’s Ichiro or Pele thinks that was racist:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msn.....-of-obama/
Maybe Dems can help out by giving Romney a list of words that can’t possibly be twisted into a racist connotation, and Romney will limit himself to those.
The most honest defense Obama could have offered over Biden’s comments is that the man is just too fucking stupid to understand the meaning of what he said.
How rightwing lies prompt deranged people to murder innocent strangers.
http://www.nrtoday.com/article...../110839981
@287 “The GOP is less upset over what he said than about the fact that so little was made of it in the media.”
In other words, they threw a tantrum to get attention, but didn’t get the attention they wanted, so they’re throwing another tantrum.
@277 “the troll want’s to deduce your portfolio by looking at your tax returns. My point was that tax returns are a very incomplete manner of determining one’s portfolio”
It apparently didn’t occur to the troll that tax returns don’t list assets. They only show taxable income from assets. Stocks in IRAs wouldn’t show in tax returns at all.
Gee, it’s well after 1pm and RR hasn’t regaled us with his daily tale of how much he made in the market today, all of which was made off of some stupid Republican investor.
I feel so unfulfilled not knowing.
Gotta love those vote suppressing Republicans:
http://www.philly.com/philly/n.....id=4829276
Yes, there would have been. There would have been because the right in this country and the Republican Party HAVE A HISTORY OF RACISM.
And in this case there was a host of right-wing objection and across-the-board accusations of racism from the right. Which went no where, because it’s the right in this country that has a history of racism.
@282 There’s also the possibility that deducting those hobby expenses, if that’s what Ann Romney has been doing, is illegal.
In any case, Ann Romney is required to sign their joint tax returns, so any tax crimes committed by Mitt were also committed by her, and maybe she doesn’t want to disclose their tax returns for the same reason he doesn’t: She prefers her current digs to a prison cell.
Hey folks, I don’t know, I’m just tossing out theories. The best thing would be for the Romneys to release their tax returns and put these idle speculations to rest.
@ 295
A well-placed thrombus in one of your coronary arteries would put those idle speculations to rest as well.
I believe Mitt when he says he paid taxes every year. After all, he’s a Mormon, and a Mormon wouldn’t lie about something like that. Maybe other stuff, but not that.
So I still think the most viable theory is that he accepted an IRS amnesty in 2009. Whatever shit he’s hiding is most likely in his 2009 return, and when you ask yourself what happened that year, the IRS amnesty was the big tax story of 2009.
The Obama campaign appears to be homing in on the Romneys’ 2009 tax return, too. This week they promised to back off from requesting the Romneys’ tax returns if they agree to release the last 5 years. Romney had already released 2010 and 2011, so the Obama campaign is really asking for just 3 more years.
Of course, if Romney release 3 more years, he’s got to release 2009. I mean, it would look pretty bad if he skipped over 2009 and released 2006, 2007, and 2008 wouldn’t it? That would make it obvious he’s hiding something in his 2009 return, although that’s already pretty obvious and couldn’t get much more obvious. And it became even more obvious when he answered, “No!” I mean he practically shouted “NOOO!!!” which has the same effect as taking the 5th Amendment.
@296 Feel free to try it whenever you feel up to it. My hole is next to the big tree on the east side of Green Lake Park.
@292 My stocks have been working hard lately, so I gave them a day off. They’re at the beach soaking up rays.
@296 Cereal Bob,
You know, feel free to throw your bullshit. We’re big enough to take it and strong enough to shove it back down your throat.
But there’s no excuse for anyone to throw out death jokes Asshole.
HTG, you should seek help.
“The GOP is less upset over what he said than about the fact that so little was made of it in the media.”
Why should the media or anybody else but a wingnut whiner make anything of it? As an honorary black man, heh, and you being a racist who hates blacks, I fail to see what your agony might be here, Bob. What’s racist about “chains”? It’s not like blacks are the only race of people on this planet to have known “chains”. It doesn’t even have to be related slavery, Bob. Oppression will do. Hell, I’m pretty sure there are more than a few Syrians these days thinking along the lines of “lift these chains from me”. And then there’s our poor friend, Michael, who is “chained” to his desk today.
Like all wingnut whines, this one is a bunch of over-blown horseshit.
Funny how Romney himself has taken his campaign so off-course. The tax return issue was completely avoidable if he had simply released the same returns his father did. THEN he could be free to campaign over the “issues”, as he calls them. Instead, he’s stuck with pleading with the media to quit asking about the returns so they can talk instead about his talking-points.
What’s REALLY funny is that among the stage-full of clowns which consisted of the Republican primary candidates, Romney was the best. Not much of a back-bench. And that’s the one thing that protects Romney from a first-ballot rebellion and a brokered Republican convention – they really don’t have anybody else to turn to.
Yeah, Paul Ryan is also a dick
Running for Vice President is like a box of chocolates.
“The vice presidential debate between Paul Ryan and Joe Biden will be like Einstein debating Forrest Gump,” Poe said, according to the Houston Chronicle.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/.....32413.html
@302 rhp6033, They had someone they would not even let you hear about, Buddy Roemer, because he wasn’t batshit crazy enough.
@304 Serially Dim,
You know what? That’s great!
You and the National Review keep pumping expectations for Republican House Leader, the Congress with the lowest respect in polling history, Paul Ryan.
I think you may just be dim enough to get a position on the Gekko/Galt campaign, Boob.
IN the meantime, Vice-Presidental nominee-apparant Paul Ryan spent a couple of days in Vegas, kow-towing to Adelson in return for some big bucks to support the Romney campaign. The rumored prize? About $100 million in contributions.
Remember that Adelson has lots of legal troubles which threaten to spill over into federal Dept. of Justice investigations. To Adelson, it might be money well spent. Romney’s trip to London also included an appearance at a fund-raiser among Citi Bankers, who are similarly embroiled in the LIBOR scandel.
Which brings to mind William A. Clark, who was an infamous Montana Senator and founder of the railroad between Salt Lake City and Los Angeles. Los Vegas is the seat of what has since been named Clark County. Clark was famous for having said: “I never bought a man who wasn’t for sale.” Clark’s notariety as a robber-baron and currupt politician motived Mark Twain to write:
@304 Rep. Ted ‘The drones are coming’ Poe, yet another insane-with-hate wingnut from Texas. Can you quote someone on the right who isn’t a batshit crazy fascist?
@302 “The tax return issue was completely avoidable if he had simply released the same returns his father did.”
Which is why so many people suspect there’s something in his returns that would sink his campaign.
“Vice-Presidental nominee-apparant Paul Ryan spent a couple of days in Vegas, kow-towing to Adelson in return for some big bucks to support the Romney campaign”
Republican politicians groveling on their knees before their Billionaire Lords. That’s probably where Bob got his idea for the way he uses knee pads.
Interesting how the President is playing chess, while the rest of us are playing checkers.
Romney’s excuse for not releasing his tax returns were that Democrats would keep asking for additional returns, ad infinitum. That never seemed to be a problem with other candidates over the past thirty years or so, but Romney seems to have some irrational fears.
So I worried when the President offered to accept only five years of tax returns, fearing the real dirt might be found in returns previous to that. What about years six to ten?
But as I said, the President is playing chess. When Romney refused the offer, the President had him stuck – he had NO EXCUSE for not releasing the additional three years worth of returns. Moreover, the President has come out as the “compromiser”, offering Romney a way out. By refusing, Romney put himself into an indefensable position.
Check and checkmate.
@311 Tax returns and the privatization of SS, Medicare and Medicaid. And fools like Romney and Bob thought they’d be campaigning on jobs.
Welcome to Chicago-style politics, wingnuts. It’s probably dawning on you by now. Your hapless fool candidate and his lickspittle sidekick don’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell against, heh, The One.
Perhaps if we still had Republicans in this world who possessed critical thinking skills, we might be able to learn from them WTF this latest GOP babblespeak means.
Nicest day of the year and I’m stuck working.
Now a couple Fed employees have been “suspended” without pay for campaigning while on duty.
Not surprising.
Obama learned how to do lots of illegal shit in Chicago as a community organizer.
He’s an expert at doing illegal shit
Remember when Kenyan Soshuuleest Obama killed capitalism? Me neither!
“Stocks closed Friday near a fresh four-year high, chalking up a sixth straight week of gains, as a drop in Wall Street’s “fear gauge” and gains across all sectors suggested the market has room to move higher.
The Nasdaq rose as Apple’s shares reached an all-time high.”
DISCLOSURE: My position in Apple enabled me to reap profits allowing me and my family to max our contributions out to Obama/Biden 2012.
@310 Guys like Adelson don’t hand out money without getting something in return. And they don’t become billionaires by settling for 5% return on investment. In the 2000-2004 election cycle, rich donors gave $4 billion to the GOP, and got $400 billion of tax breaks in return. That’s a 10,000% return on investment. It may not be too far a stretch to wonder if Ryan promised something similar to Adelson.
We know Romney wants to eliminate taxes on dividends, capital gains, estates, and corporations. That means guys like Adelson would pay zero taxes. That’s worth investing in a few million dollars of campaign donations, if you’re Adelson.
Republicans like Romney and Ryan believe only wage earners should pay taxes, just as they believe only workers’ children should die in their wars. They figure they’re too good to pay taxes or serve in the military. After all, they’re the “job creators,” so everyone else should suck up to them.
Are we also supposed to kiss the water they walk on?
Whoo yeah! Killing in the NAME!
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses
Killing in the name of
Killing in the name of
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
# 318: Referencing the rich expecting the poor to die in their wars, remember the comment which killed Romney’s presidential primary run in 2008? After speaking strongly about how much he supports the President’s invasion and occupation in Iraq, some pesky reporter asked Romney how come none of his children served in the military. After a moment of the “dear in the headlight” look, Romney tried to argue that they were serving their country in their own way, by working on their father’s campaign.
The barely controlled laughter from the reporters was audible.
# 315: That’s all you’ve got? With a little bit of searching I could come up with lots of Republican examples. Like our current Attorney General and Republcian gubenatorial candidate Rob McKenna, in who’s government office campaign papers were found in the trash.
Here’s a heartwarming story for all you lawyer-haters out there.
This story starts with University of Michigan students electing a gay as their student body president.
A lawyer employed by the state attorney general didn’t like that, so he started a private blog whose aim, he says, was to get the gay student body president to resign.
His blog accused the gay student of “enticing minors with alcohol and recruiting people to become homosexual.”
The gay student didn’t resign, he sued.
The gay student offered a deal: He’d drop the lawsuit in exchange for an apology and retraction.
The lawyer refused. He went to trial and represented himself, arguing the gay student was a “public figure,” therefore the lawyer’s “free speech” is protected by the First Amendment.
Wanna guess what the outcome was?
Damn, if it weren’t for our own dumbfuck trolls (I’m talking mostly about you, Klown), I’d nominate the woman posting as RagnarDanneskold over at (un)SP as the dumbest wingnut on the entire planet.
[ ] A. The lawyer won the lawsuit and kept his job.
[ ] B. The jury awarded the gay student $5,000 and the lawyer kept his job.
[ ] C. The jury awarded the gay student $50,000 and the lawyer kept his job.
[ ] D. The jury awarded the gay student $500,000 and the lawyer kept his job.
[ ] E. The jury awarded the gay student $4.5 million and the lawyer lost his job.
“He who represents himself has a fool for a client.” — A. Lincoln
Spoiler Alert: The correct answer is here …
http://tinyurl.com/cjnbxx8
Federal Court rules that Florida’s shortening of voting laws discriminates against blacks.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....hp?ref=fpb
Of course it discriminates against blacks. That’s why they did it.
@326
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
Like I said, ridicule them. Point and laugh. Shame is powerful stuff.
You know that’s a character from one of Ayn Rand’s pieces of trash, right? (Which of course supports your original contention.)
I think there’s another fool over there with a similar Rand-Fan nom-de-drivel.
@329 Indeed, I knew that. The screen name was all I really needed to know that she was dumber than a duck, but her comments quickly confirm it.
You’re probably wrong about shame, at least the kind of shame one would normally speak of, as it seems to have no power with wingnuts. Just look at our own trolls. They know no shame whatsoever.
What’s up with righties and the name Ragnar? There used to be a right-wing survivalist writer that went by the pen name Ragnar Benson.
@330 Steve & @329 Lib,
As a troll on the (un)SP I feel badly about Rags. She appears to want something better, and has been suckered in to the worst BS of those who act against her best interests.
I think in person we would find her a very gracious and sweet person.
Very sad. It is one thing to steal your money and your opportunities. Quite another to have your dreams and your very soul stolen.
Cereal Boob is headed in that direction.
@332
That’s one dumbass lawyer.
You’re complaining because Democrats followed the rule of law?
In the case of the (un)SP regular, his (or her) handle comes from Ayn Rand I believe.
It’s strange that the right winger behind the handle is a whacko hard-core right wing Roman Catholic.
“I think in person we would find her a very gracious and sweet person.
Very sad. It is one thing to steal your money and your opportunities. Quite another to have your dreams and your very soul stolen.”
That’s very well said, Mike. I was probably too harsh on Rags. Heck, she could very well be my own Dear Ms. Wingnut.
“a whacko hard-core right wing Roman Catholic”
You know my Dear Ms. Wingnut??
The very right wing Peter Schiff on the Paul Ryan “plan”:
http://www.businessinsider.com.....nge-2012-8
heh. Schiff is obviously is in the sky is falling camp.
But he did call the housing bubble 100 percent right in 2006 and everyone on CNBC laughed at him. I agree with him on bloated defense spending which the Ryan “plan” just pumps up, up, up afaik.
337 – Heh. She might be (un)SP’s Rags.
Does she have a son who’s had a hard time getting married?
One thing about my Roman Catholic Dear Ms. Wingnut is that she can be pulled out of her wingnut mindset when I bring up something like Matthew 25 or other compassionate sayings of Jesus. No matter the grip wingnut ideology might have on her, to be reminded of the teachings of Jesus always gives her pause.
Wingnut Christians never seem to want to quote Jesus. Just a few verses out of Luke usually.
#340
There’s plenty of examples of the Catholic left to show her, starting with Liberation Theology.
@339 No, but she does have an adult son who’s had a hard time of it – multiple surgeries (10 or so by now) arising from a accident at work have led to a long and often losing battle with oxycotin addiction. He lives with her. It’s been a difficult row to hoe for both her and her son. I love them both.
Ooh oh oh Bobby’s cryin’!
http://www.latimes.com/busines.....5450.story
Oh, oh, oh, Bobby’s cryin’
342 – Just as well. Rags at (un)SP has always struck me as an unhinged fanatic male.
A right winger’s right winger. Total cement block for a head.
So much for Ryan helping the Republican’s take Wisconsin.
Or PA
And let’s throw in MI, just for good measure.
“Just as well. Rags at (un)SP has always struck me as an unhinged fanatic male”
I thought the same until she stated a few times that she’s a unhinged fanatic woman.
We’re supposed to take the word of Romney and Ryan??
The same guy who couldn’t remember writing letters requesting stimulous funds.
@333 I used to think all lawyers are smart, but I know better now.
347, 348, et al.: What?! The Wingnut Hero (TM) is becoming an object of derision and ridicule? You don’t say!
No wonder the trolls here babble on and on about Biden. The horrible Romney pick of Paul Ryan and his blown rollout has obviously pushed them into a state of shock and denial.
@349
The race has tightened up a bit, but it looks a lot more like late summer, the other guy just picked his veep tightening that you’d expect to happen regardless and not: Paul Ryan FUCKING AWESOME tightening.
@347 stop blaming GWB he was just a stupid monkey.
Just think. In fucking 26 years we’ll have a balanced budget. Probably 30 trillion dollars in debt but we will start to pay it off in no time.