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Open Thread 7/3

by Carl Ballard — Tuesday, 7/3/12, 7:56 am

– I love the Donald Verrilli meme.

– And I love the over the top reactions to health care being upheld from conservatives.

– #Noshame

– It must be tough to switch what you believe when you were thrust into the spotlight at a young age.

– Why can’t Democrats just get behind Obama, admit ACA is a big win, admit Obama’s election was a big win? I’m a mopey, pessimistic, anxious, depressive person, but I still can’t understand it.

– How people see conservatives.

– Health care reform glossary

– There are going to be a lot of sappy Olympic profiles. So far, this is my favorite.

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  1. 1

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 9:18 am

    According to a Newsweek/Daily Beast poll of likely voters, Barack Obama now rates behind Jimmy Carter in the pantheon of great presidents.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....48085.html

    Ouch.

  2. 2

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 9:23 am

    @1 you got nothing else to do with your time at your GOP paid staffer position?
    How about listing those five positive things you think that romney will do for all americans?

  3. 3

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 9:35 am

    @ 2

    You just want to catch me in one of these moments:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixc2IHum2hg

  4. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 10:06 am

    @1 Jimmy Carter was a decent man (and also the only sitting president I’ve met in person). Deride him all you want, he had none of the dishonesty and guile that have tainted all recent Republican presidents. He wasn’t corrupt, dishonest, a liar, a warmonger, or a torturer. One more thing: If he deserves personal blame for the hostage rescue failure (including the aircraft accident in the desert), then Obama equally deserves personal credit for killing OBL.

  5. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 10:09 am

    Debt factoids:

    Amount of U.S. consumer debt: $11.4 trillion
    Amount of delinquent consumer debt: $1 trillion
    Average household debt: $47,000
    Average household income: $41,674

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/20.....-american/

  6. 6

    Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 10:49 am

    According to a Newsweek/Daily Beast poll of likely voters, Barack Obama now rates behind Jimmy Carter in the pantheon of great presidents.

    And yet, he’s still more popular than Mitt Romney.

  7. 7

    rhp6033 spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 11:14 am

    Carter’s reputation was hammered at the end of his Presidency. In part this was because he was hammered by outside forces which were mostly beyond his control (Fed. Reserve increasing discout rates to unheard levels, OPEC flexing it’s near-monopoly power over oil prices, and the Iranian revolution). Heck, Carter even got blamed for the record snow/ice storms in the winter of 1979-1980.

    Then came the Republican noise machine, which tried to pin all the blame for those mostly external events on Carter, and after the economy eventually improved coronated St. Ronnie as the nation’s savior. After all, what post-war President presided over an effective zero growth in the economy, or the Dow, except Carter? And which President, except Reagan, oversaw an economic resurgence at historic levels of growth?

    But history has been a more accurate judge. Insiders like David Stockman, Reagan’s budget director, admitted that his budget numbers were all “smoke and mirrors” based on a “rosey scenario” of growth. Despite blaming Carter for federal spending growth , Republicans engaged in an orgy of spending, all on borrowed money (since their first act in 1981, after changing the way inflation was measured, was to cut taxes). And as Stockman indicated, it wasn’t the Democrats in Congress who were insisting on spending more money, it was Reagan’s own cabinet, as they protected and enlarged their own turfs. Heck, Carter had even reduced office cleaning to once a week to save money, but the Reagan administration reinstated it before they even sat down in their new chairs – they wanted their desks dusted and floors vacumed and mopped every night.

    It took twenty years, and at least three tax hikes later, before the budget was balanced again. But Stockman knew in early 1981 that if they had just kept Carter’s budget plan in place, the budget would have been balanced by – 1988.

    Of course, the Republican noise machine tried to drown this out. And when the economy REALLY took off during Clinton’s presidency (after a rescession under George H.W. Bush’s presidency), they tried to impeach Clinton – anything to divert attention from Republican failures vs. Democratic success.

    And, as others have noted, Carter’s personal morals have aided his resurgence in popularity. His work for Habitat for Humanity built homes for tens of thousands of those who otherwise couldn’t afford it. He devoted time and effort and money into assuring free elections worldwide. Of course, both weren’t really popular with those who really control the G.O.P. – they wanted the poor to be renters or at least under userous mortgages instead of equity homeowners, and free elections were never a GOP interest.

    With President’s afterwards trying to cash in on the speaking fees, board memberships, influence peddling etc., Carter’s simple working morality is a great example of what influence a President can have after he leaves office.

  8. 8

    Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 11:26 am

    In another blow to culture war righties I-1192, has failed to make it on the November ballot.

    I-1192 sponsor Stephen Pidgeon of Everett said Monday that his campaign was running far short of the 241,153 valid voter signatures needed before Friday’s 5 p.m. deadline.

    “I hate to say it … but we’re just not going to cross the threshold. We’re not going to make it. This measure is not going to be on the ballot,” Pidgeon said, estimating the I-1192 campaign would be lucky to get 100,000 signatures.

    Read more here: http://www.theolympian.com/201.....rylink=cpy

  9. 9

    Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 11:34 am

    Posted in honor of the complete failure of I-1192

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q96-e042bk

  10. 10

    rhp6033 spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 11:45 am

    By the way, by way of comparison:

    Performance of the DJIA under recent Presidents:

    Carter: – 000.87%
    Reagan: + 135.13%
    Bush I: + 045.47%
    Clinton: + 225.37%
    Bush II: – 021.78%
    Obama: + 056.30% (to date)

    Clearly, if you are an investor in stocks you will do better under a Democratic president than under a Republican one. George W. Bush’s performance after eight years in office makes the stock market under Jimmy Carter’s presidency look like a great investment, in comparison.

  11. 11

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 12:07 pm

    Props to Bill O’Loofah for finally admitting what we knew about him for many years:

    http://thinkprogress.org/media.....-an-idiot/

    He’s an idiot!

    ANDREA MAKRIS! ANDREA MAKRIS! ANDREA MAKRIS!

  12. 12

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 12:20 pm

    Ok let me get this straight..

    They think they have an issue calling it a “tax”. The right wing idiots who come here anyway..

    But, but the Mitt (R-Money) campaign disagrees. Mitt didn’t “tax” anyone in MA. He called it a “penalty”..

    http://www.theatlantic.com/pol.....ax/259309/

    And Roberts didn’t call it a tax either:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/ri.....o-mislead/

    No one’s been forced to pay this “tax” yet. Court can’t rule on it.

    Oh, oh but it polls well with the Obama derangement syndrome crowd so the RNC will stick with “tax”:

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ti.....24741.html

  13. 13

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 12:23 pm

    Help me here. Don’t know what to think about this one..

    http://thinkprogress.org/polit.....ssion-law/

    Republicans hand the extremist Gov a brand spanking new way to suppress votes and he VETOES it???

    I guess he’s holding out for an outright ban on poor, elderly, minority and students voting PERIOD! RINO doesn’t fit this guy.

  14. 14

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 12:29 pm

    Today in Tea bagger idiocy.. This has got to be the Wyoming harlequin’s favorite crazy teabagger from his former digs in Montana:

    Kerns said the moving of 60 bison from Yellowstone National Park to the Fort Peck Native American Reservation this winter is part of “a four step process to crush the republic and bring our populace into perfect dependence on big government — just as Karl Marx dreamed.” He said the first part involved Walt Disney’s creation of the popular fictional deer “Bambi,” which he said allowed people to raise the stature of animals and caused the teaching of the environment in schools, which he said stopped worship of God.

    LMAO!!! That’s just step one.. It gets better:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....43167.html

  15. 15

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 12:33 pm

    Nothing for right wing idiots to see here:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....45616.html

    You’d think this shit would be hitting some of them hard where it counts: the pocket book.. But they’re so far gone insane not even that seems to work on them.

    They’ll just blame the awful weather on what else? The “socialists”, “liberals”, “Obama”, “Bill Clinton” whatever..

    Ho hum..

  16. 16

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 12:43 pm

    In Europe, they’re freaking out over the bankster manipulation of the LIBOR.. Here? Where’s the outrage?

    It’s only a figure on which 10 trillion dollars worth of debt is priced with.

    Why not game it? Big money in it.

    Good analyses:

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com.....-here.html

    http://www.rollingstone.com/po.....l-20120703

    Heads will roll across the water. Here? We can only dream.

  17. 17

    rhp6033 spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 1:01 pm

    In depressing news, actor Andy Griffith passed away in N. Carolina, his home state. He will be known for his humerous recordings “What it was, was football”, for playing homespun sheriff Andy Taylor on the “Andy Griffith Show”, and for playing a southern lawyer in Matlock.

    Lots of people on the internet are complaining how they miss the nostalgia and humor he found in an old small-town N. Carolina town called “Mayberry”. Some G.O.P. and Tea Party types are claiming that rosy scenario was destroyed by Democrats, and President Obama, in particular. Of course, that’s so ridiculous it hardly merits comment.

    But apparantly a lot of these Andy Griffith worshipers don’t know that Andy Griffith was a long-time supporter of Democratic causes. He even starred in a commercial in 2010 supporting the Affordable Care Act, but it had to be pulled because America’s favorite sheriff was receiving scores of death threats from his erstwhile admirers.

    The Democratic Politics of the Late Andy Griffith

  18. 18

    Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 1:08 pm

    And this my friends is why I like Claire McCaskill.

    http://www.news-leader.com/art.....ck_check=1

    “Right now people are choosing not to buy insurance and going to the emergency room,” she said. “And all of us are paying for it with higher and higher insurance rates. I think if people took a deep breath and gave this a chance, they’re going to be pleasantly surprised.”

    After the ruling last week, several members of Missouri’s Congressional Delegation issued lengthy statements on the ruling. McCaskill’s Senate office issued a one-sentence statement, which prompted some critics to say she was hiding.

    McCaskill also rejected that notion.

    “I think if you’re going to hide, it’s probably not a good idea to get in a giant blue bus with your name on the side, go to every corner of the state and make sure to tell the press exactly where you’re going to be,” she said.

    Although, at the present time, it looks like she’s going to lose in the fall.

  19. 19

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 1:27 pm

    @ 18

    So, up until now we’ve been paying higher premiums to provide care for others. Going forward, we’ll pay higher taxes.

    I suppose that wouldn’t be such a bad trade-off, but that’s not the main thrust of the bill. The other items in the bill are what make it so awful.

  20. 20

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 1:43 pm

    The other items in the bill are what make it so awful.

    So awful.

    Like eliminating the exclusion for ‘preexisting conditions’?

    Or do you hate the elimination of the lifetime cap?

  21. 21

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 1:53 pm

    @ 20

    Like enabling someone with a health history (or even without) and financial wherewithal to avoid paying premiums with only a $750 annual tax/penalty, and waiting until they really need the coverage, yeah. Like that.

    That’s not personal responsibility. But it will push us closer to single-payer because it’s something the insurance companies either cannot afford or they will afford only by charging those of us who DO pay premiums more.

    That’s a problem.

  22. 22

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:14 pm

    Colorado wildfire evacuees who refused to pay taxes for firefighters and police are returning to find their homes burned and looted.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....xes03.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: It’s tempting to say, “Serves ’em right,” but that’s wrong. It’s sad and tragic these people are now suffering because someone sold them a quack ideology that cost them all they had. It’s the snake-oil salesmen, not the victimized customers, who deserve our scorn.

  23. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:17 pm

    @19 What “higher taxes” will you pay? PPACA won’t affect my taxes at all.

  24. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:19 pm

    @20 They can’t stand the thought of anyone except the rich enjoying the special privilege of having health care.

  25. 25

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:22 pm

    I remember reading about that.

    COLORADO SPRINGS — This tax-averse city is about to learn what it looks and feels like when budget cuts slash services most Americans consider part of the urban fabric.

    Read more: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many – The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473

  26. 26

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:28 pm

    LIBOR manipulation criminals for Mitt:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....46007.html

    Banksters love the guy! Who’d a thunk it?

  27. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:29 pm

    Tasers Don’t Kill People Dep’t

    A mentally ill Tukwila man was killed by a police taser Saturday.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....th03m.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Check one of the boxex to indicate how much you think the wrongful death lawsuit against the Tukwila Police Department will settle for: [ ] $500,000 [ ] $1,000,000 [ ] $1,500,000

  28. 28

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:31 pm

    @25 Where was the NRA when these people needed their property protected?

  29. 29

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:32 pm

    Good news for Obama,

    http://www.latimes.com/news/po.....3243.story

    less hair for ODS sufferers.

  30. 30

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:36 pm

    The city has been aggressive in applying for federal grants, too, which have funded wildfire-mitigation efforts, said Bret Waters, emergency management director.

    Dunn notes that the city, where there is strong anti-federal-government sentiment, is now turning to the U.S. for assistance. Before visiting Colorado on Friday, President Obama declared the state a disaster area, which frees aid for communities affected by the wildfires.

    “Ironically, Colorado Springs is going to rely heavily on federal funds for rebuilding,” Dunn said. “But it won’t cover everything.”

    Is that hypocrisy to not want to pay local taxes but ask for a portion of other poeple’s taxes when things go wrong?

    Isn’t that like not paying for health insurance and then asking for help covering the emergency services when they get sick?

  31. 31

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:37 pm

    25 – From that article:

    More than a third of the streetlights in Colorado Springs will go dark Monday. The police helicopters are for sale on the Internet. The city is dumping firefighting jobs, a vice team, burglary investigators, beat cops — dozens of police and fire positions will go unfilled.

    Heh. Just get the Wyoming harlequin on the case. He’ll set those religious baggers straight on the proper priorities of government. No tax increase needed.. Just tell those administrative assistants and whatnot to work for free. Free is the sweetest word in the world to right wingers.

    Hell the public safety unions can even keep their bargaining rights.

  32. 32

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:38 pm

    Woulnd’t you know, Serial “Joke about an African American girl’s looks to make political points” Conservative just wrote:
    “Like enabling someone with a health history (or even without) and financial wherewithal to avoid paying premiums with only a $750 annual tax/penalty, and waiting until they really need the coverage, yeah. Like that.”
    would be…

    “Like enabling a community with a history of fire danger and financial wherewithal to avoid paying taxes with little penalty, and waiting until the fire where they really need the help, yeah. Like that.

  33. 33

    rhp6033 spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 2:42 pm

    It’s about 2:40 p.m. on July 3rd. E-mails not acknowledged, phone calls going to voice mails which are not returned. This happens every year when a holiday falls on a week day, so it doesn’t surprise me. Everyone’s bailing on work as soon as possible, under the excuse of “beating the traffic”, but mostly to extend their day off by a few extra hours.

    Americans want to be able to take a vacation. Republicans want us to take second jobs. If you argue with them, they say all you have to do is get rich like them, and you can take a vacation anytime you like.

  34. 34

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 3:07 pm

    @ 19

    Well, for one thing, a tax will be applied to investment interest. We keep hearing about your investment prowess, RR. Dividends will be taxed at a higher rate.

    For those of us still working (I am an employee of my own corporation), the Medicare payroll tax goes up.

    Maybe you should look at what’s in the bill now that we’ve passed it.

  35. 35

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 3:21 pm

    But it will push us closer to single-payer…

    Feature, not a bug!!!

  36. 36

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 4:09 pm

    “… you got nothing else to do with your time at your GOP paid staffer position?”

    It would be pretty nice to have a job as a staffer anywhere about now. I’d like to have an job being a staffer somehwere. Does the Mafia or those anarchist kids who cause all that mischief have any opening?

  37. 37

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 4:23 pm

    “In Europe, they’re freaking out over the bankster manipulation of the LIBOR.. Here? Where’s the outrage?”

    Unfortunately, most people in the entire world don’t even know what LIBOR is. It plays a role in many lines of credit and other credit facilities and is used as a basis for determining interest rtaes therein. A lot of interest rate swaps use LIBOR plus some interest spread for the floating rate part of the swap.

    {Interest rate swaps – one party agrees to pay an interest rate based on some published banking interest rate (LIBOR, for example) on some notional amount, and the counterparty agrees to pay either a fixed rate or a floating rate on the same notional amount based on some other interest rate quoted by some banking authority somewhere. After studying it a long time, I concluded that it’s more of a parlor game than true investing but might have some benefit as a hedge against interest rate movement in fixed income portfolios.}

  38. 38

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 4:30 pm

    Republicans Start to Panic as ObamaCare Reaches 50% Approval

    Heh. Indeed..

    David Frum predicted as much on the day PPACA passed Congress..

    Once people get to know it they will want to keep it. Just like Social Security/Medicare. It’s all the right wingers fault for not being more proactive on this.

    Hear that sucking sound??? 204 million plus on anti-ACA propaganda being flushed down the crapper where it belongs.

  39. 39

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 4:39 pm

    I think what the PPACA is going to do is to take money from wealthy people to pay for health care for those that don’t have money. Heck, everyone likes free stuff!

  40. 40

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 4:41 pm

    The real problem is that we need 20 or 30 times more docs and health care providers than we have now. There really isn’t any incentive to keep costs low because there’s no competition in providing health care. Ever heard of a surgeon running a sale on bypass surgery?

  41. 41

    Steve spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 4:57 pm

    A wingnut hating our troops. Sigh! There’s nothing new about that, I suppose, but this guy keeps getting in the news for all of the wrong reasons. Vote Vets, a non-partisan PAC that supports veterans issues, takes issue with a truly vile wingnut politician and deadbeat father, Rep. Joe Walsh.

    http://thinkprogress.org/elect.....joe-walsh/

    “Joe Walsh’s disgust for our veterans’ sacrifices knows no bounds. First, he falsely and maliciously claims that Tammy Duckworth, a veteran who lost her legs in Iraq didn’t have much of a record of service. Now, he denigrates that same American hero for talking about how her experience shaped her worldview and strengthened her resolve to serve even more – a conversation that isn’t just legitimate to have, but crucial as America charts its course domestically and internationally. This is a new low for this deadbeat dad. Telling a veteran to shut up on the 4th of July is beyond the pale. We are past the point of calling on Joe Walsh to apologize. He should step aside and and stop embarrassing his district and America.”

  42. 42

    Steve spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 5:07 pm

    Vets don’t take too kindly to Gov. Scott Walker’s top aids ripping them off for tens of thousands of dollars.

    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com.....-veterans/

    But they’re Republicans. That’s what they do. How do freaks like Bob relate to our troops? They wave Made-in-China flags as they send them off to die in misbegotten wars and then, if any manage to come home alive, they steal them blind.

  43. 43

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 5:33 pm

    John Cole over at BJ calls it like he sees it.
    What War on Women, You Say?

    So while Republican governors are actively avoiding implementing ACA, House Republicans are working to make sure it can not be implemented, all Republicans are screaming for repeal with no plan to replace it and basically screwing 50 million Americans, NC Republicans walk back a previous commitment to women’s health and throw low income residents out on the street.

    Anyone anywhere who votes Republican, registers as a Republican, or calls himself a Republican is quite simply a sociopath. They know what they are aiding and abetting and don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt anymore.

    And you know which Republican female member of Congress says there is no “War on Women”? McMorris Rodgers [R]

  44. 44

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 5:41 pm

    the dishonesty and guile that have tainted all recent DUMMOCRAPT presidents.

    Corrected!

  45. 45

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 5:42 pm

    And yet, he’s still more popular than Mitt Romney.

    Michael, the power of the slobbering libtard press.

  46. 46

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 5:52 pm

    Of course, both weren’t really popular with those who really control the G.O.P. – they wanted the poor to be renters or at least under userous mortgages instead of equity homeowners, and free elections were never a GOP interest.

    Got proof rhpee6033?

  47. 47

    Serial Conservative spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 5:53 pm

    Honest question:

    Is this ad against Tammy Baldwin:

    http://www.progressive.org/att.....ldwin.html

    unfair?

  48. 48

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 5:57 pm

    dont-buy-the-gop-narrative-that-obamacare-is-a-tax-on-middle-class-its-a-lie-designed-to-mislead/

    Rick Ungar… leftist pinhead

    Of course HA crazed databaze moron ylb would post his horse manure and think it’s “kool”.

  49. 49

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 6:02 pm

    massive-furor-in-uk-over-libor-manipulation-wheres-the-outrage-here.html

    Yves Smith… another leftist pinhead… been on MSNBC. Nuff said there sucka!

    Golly ylb don’t you think we’d research your “posts”?

  50. 50

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 6:04 pm

    why-is-nobody-freaking-out-about-the-libor-banking-scandal-20120703

    Because they are Obummer jockstaps you moron ylb! Why would the slobbering libtard press strip off their kimonos when it would expose Obummer?

  51. 51

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 6:07 pm

    PPACA won’t affect my taxes at all.

    Yeah Roger DUMB Wabbit, you are retired!

  52. 52

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 6:10 pm

    50 – Tell that to the slobbering Barclays CEO who had to cancel his slobbering appearance at a Mitt (R-Money) slobber fest

    Such a pathetic MORON!

  53. 53

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 6:11 pm

    Yves Smith… another leftist pinhead…

    Nuff said from a vacuous “full size” idiot with a half pint brain..

    full size half-pint… I like the sound of that!

  54. 54

    who run Bartertown? spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 6:16 pm

    27. Roger Rabbit spews:
    Tasers Don’t Kill People Dep’t

    A mentally ill Tukwila man was killed by a police taser Saturday.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....th03m.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Check one of the boxex to indicate how much you think the wrongful death lawsuit against the Tukwila Police Department will settle for: [ ] $500,000 [ ] $1,000,000 [ ] $1,500,000

    07/03/2012 AT 2:29 PM

    the moral of the story is: act like a dumbass, and you get treated like a dumbass.

  55. 55

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 6:16 pm

    robert-diamond-fundraiser-mitt-romney-barclays_n_1646007.html

    More boredom from ylb. More leftists Ryan Grim & Paul Blumenthal.

    But I have to give it to ylb… I forgot to save this link. Blumenthal did open all our eyes on the big pharma sellout Obummer did for ObummerCare…

  56. 56

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 6:17 pm

    Half pint ylb? From the gutter dweller?

    HAHAHAHA Yves Smith leftist pinhead.

    EPIC FAYLE!

  57. 57

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 6:18 pm

    Barclays CEO

    One outlier ya idiot.

  58. 58

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 6:29 pm

    @38,

    Always check the horseshit posted by the crazed databaze deala ylb.

    In general, do you think the current Supreme Court is too liberal, too conservative, or just about right?

    June 28-July 1 2012
    Too liberal 30%
    Too conservative 22%
    About right 46%
    No opinion 2%

    Thinking about your personal reaction, do you feel enthusiastic, pleased, displeased or angry about the Supreme Court’s decision in this case?

    June 28-July 1 2012
    Enthusiastic 15%
    Pleased 33%
    Displeased 31%
    Angry 20%
    Other (vol.) 1%
    No opinion *

    Regardless of how you feel about that provision, do you consider it a tax on Americans, or don’t you feel that way?

    June 28-July 1 2012
    Yes, is a tax 60%
    No, not a tax 39%
    No opinion 1%

    The Supreme Court’s decision also affected Medicaid, the federal health program for the poor. The decision gives state governments the option not to expand their Medicaid programs without losing funding for their existing Medicaid system. Based on what you have read or heard about this, do you agree or disagree with this decision?

    June 28-July 1 2012
    Agree 49%
    Disagree 44%
    No opinion 6%

    See how a leftist web site hides the real facts to slant the story.

    Just dig into ylb horseshit from the gutter dwelling horsesASS. You’ll find the truth!

  59. 59

    Gman spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 7:03 pm

    Is puddynutz talking to himself? Why does he talk in ghetto?

  60. 60

    Gman spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 7:05 pm

    @54 – that’s puddy’s problem too.

  61. 61

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 7:22 pm

    58 – The bullshit from the degenerate right wing is wearing off!

    204 million in right wing bullshit vs barely 60 million supporting ACA..

    And they can only fool the american people for so long!

    From the same article:

    The Republican answer to the ACA is repeal and replace, but things quickly fall apart when they asked the question, replace with what? The fact that the ACA has gone from being widely unpopular to a virtual 50/50 split in the days since the Supreme Court decision is a major problem for the GOP, and odds are that the law is going to continue to grow in popularity as insured Americans begin to receive their share of the $1.1 billion in insurance premium rebates.

    You lose fullsize/half pint…

  62. 62

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 7:32 pm

    Hey fullsize/half pint:

    This says you’re full of shit:

    http://dyn.politico.com/prints.....F0D5B3C892

    Can’t believe you’ll be voting for a guy who showed his mug at this:

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....-attended/

    LMAO!

  63. 63

    yd spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 8:55 pm

    Anyone who can get behind that lying sack O S hasn’t read about the 12 direct taxes that Owebammacare is going to ram down their throats, even with Owebamma’s promise that no one under 200k would pay ONE MORE DIME IN TAXES..

  64. 64

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 9:07 pm

    Of course headcase ylb forgets Al Gore was anti-abortion before he was for it.

  65. 65

    Puddybud spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 9:08 pm

    From the same article:

    Leftist BULLSHITTIUM…

    Nuff said sucka! Your best is always lacking!

  66. 66

    Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 9:14 pm

    @64
    Remind me what office is Al Gore is running for? Is Rmoney going to pick him for veep or something?

  67. 67

    kim jong chillin spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 9:20 pm

    Algore is busy inventing internet 2.0 and promoting globull worming

  68. 68

    Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 9:21 pm

    @62

    To be fair this is probably accurate:

    “As Mrs. Romney has stated previously, she is unfamiliar with the circumstances of a check she wrote close to 14 years ago,” Madden said.
    “During his campaign for U.S. Senate in 1994, it would not have been out of the ordinary for the governor to have attended an event, out of the hundreds that any candidate would attend during a campaign season, which involved a voter coalition and also have his wife accompanying him,” he added.

    These folks go to all sorts of events and one $150 donation isn’t a big deal. But, Romney’s already having problems with his base*, this is far-far from the first time this has happened, and some of the right goes freaking nuts at the mention of PP.

    *Which makes sense, when you look at what Romney’s actually done his politics are closer to mine then they are to the right half of the political right in America.

  69. 69

    Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 9:22 pm

    Algore is busy inventing internet 2.0 and promoting globull worming

    And thus far to busy to run for office of be relevant anywhere other than in his and Puddy’s minds.

  70. 70

    Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 9:23 pm

    I, fucking, can’t stand Al Gore.

  71. 71

    YLB spews:

    Tuesday, 7/3/12 at 11:02 pm

    Al Gore was anti-abortion before he was for it.

    LMAO! And the idiot you’re going to vote for said he was a “severe conservative” as guv of MA..

    He’ll say anything to get elected and you’re so sick with ODS you’ll go along with his bullshit..

    Sure sucks to be you fullsize/half pint.

  72. 72

    who run Bartertown? spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 1:45 am

    obama was against gay marriage, before he was for it.

    and they spin it as “his evolution”…LMFAO, what a bunch of lemmings.

    owned.

  73. 73

    yd spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 3:05 am

    Infamous Owebamma Quote

    “If you make under $200,000 you will not pay one dime extra in taxes”

    $695 buckaroos if you don’t buy his Owebammacare

    12 other taxes aimed at those under $200,000

    Lies Lies and Damn Lies Can’t wait for the Campaign commercials.

  74. 74

    yd spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 3:12 am

    Marxism

    Boykin laid out a step-by-step plan he says is the model of how Fidel Castro instituted Marxism in Cuba, Mao Zedong in China, Stalin in Russia and Hugo Chavez in Venzeula:

    1. Nationalize major sectors of the economy
    2. Redistribute wealth
    3. Discredit opposition
    4. Censors opposing viewpoints
    5. Control gun ownership
    6. Develop a constabulary force to control
    civilian population

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck!

  75. 75

    Gman spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 6:22 am

    Hey Roger – what department does this fall under?

    A violent ex-con turned his Brooklyn apartment into a bloodbath, fatally shooting his wife and her 7-year-old grandson before committing suicide, cops said Tuesday.

    David Sherrod, 44, shot spouse Alma Cox and her beloved grandson, Jaquan Cox, in the head. Then he took the .357 caliber revolver and blew himself away inside the Bedford-Stuyvesant home, police said….

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new.....z1zexzdX1s

  76. 76

    Gman spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 6:24 am

    @73 – Romney has it much better, he calls it a penalty.

  77. 77

    Gman spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 6:30 am

    More from “that” department.

    http://www.hlntv.com/article/2.....s-call-911

  78. 78

    Gman spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 6:53 am

    Why are conservatives so nasty, mean and poor spirited?

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo......fpnewsfeed

  79. 79

    Gman spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 6:54 am

    @74 – the problem is that many Republicans, if not more so, can check off those same traits as their own. But keep up the charade it will take this Country down a great path.

  80. 80

    Puddybud spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 7:05 am

    Hey Roger – what department does this fall under?

    I wonder if he voted for Obummer in 2008?

  81. 81

    Liberal Scientist is a a dirty fucking hippie spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 7:19 am

    From Roger’ story about the dead kid in Tukwila:

    “male with a history of mental illness was being combative with his family and making strange statements to the 911 operator”

    From right-wing pinhead:

    the moral of the story is: act like a dumbass, and you get treated like a dumbass.

    Also from the story:

    “As soon as we were out, I heard ‘zzzt,’ ‘zzzt,’ and knew they were tasering him,” Mills said.

    A short while later, she said, her son was dead.

    So…I thought you Teahaddists were all about ‘FREEEEEEDOMZ!!111!!’, but apparently, one is not ‘free’ to act like a ‘dumbass’, or be mentally ill, in your world without being tasered to death.

    Funny notion of freedom you maintain. Are you on the neighborhood uterus watch patrol, too?

  82. 82

    Gman spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 7:25 am

    @80 – who did this guy vote for?

    http://americasvoiceonline.org.....ur-others/

    yeah, run the other way you tool

  83. 83

    Puddybud spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 8:34 am

    yeah, run the other way you tool

    Running gman? Oh my here’s your hero again. Remove the spaces and you can read it again gman!

  84. 84

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 9:21 am

    Just got word that Rmoney’s tens and tens and tens of millions of OFFSHORE tax-sheltered dollars wish we Americans in America a very happy Independence Day.

  85. 85

    Puddybud spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 10:20 am

    Seems to Puddy Mikecubscout is jealous he doesn’t have nuff money for overseas investment accounts.

    Happy 4th everyone!

  86. 86

    yd spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 11:03 am

    I will show it again…Lies Lies and Damn Lies

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....e=youtu.be

  87. 87

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 7/4/12 at 11:26 am

    @85 Stashing huge a amounts of money in overseas investment accounts apparently is something puddles aspires to.

    Meanwhile, a rich guy who avoids U.S. taxes by stashing huge amounts of money in overseas accounts aspires to become president and “solve” our revenue-starved government’s budget problems by slashing government services and benefits for the people who do our country’s work while boosting military spending even more.

    Republicans leaders and their loyal boot polishers never cease to surprise and amaze the rest of us.

  88. 88

    Gman spews:

    Thursday, 7/5/12 at 8:25 am

    @83 – yeah go tell it to your religious leaders that molested little kids.

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