Recently if there’s Missing Link news, my reaction is something between “what a good plan to never be implemented” or just ignoring it. But this seems like it might actually come to pass.
by Carl Ballard — ,
Recently if there’s Missing Link news, my reaction is something between “what a good plan to never be implemented” or just ignoring it. But this seems like it might actually come to pass.
@godwinha spews:
Dow’s up 240+ right now.
No wonder Goldy turned off the TV mid-speech. He has a sad.
@godwinha spews:
I guess no Dem 2020 hopeful wanted to be Jindal’d last night. Either that or Brashear/Ellison bumper stickers are being printed right now.
@godwinha spews:
White makes you look fat when you are sitting down. So does fat.
@godwinha spews:
Clearly Trump’s use of the term radical Islamic terrorism has the markets shaken this morning.
@godwinha spews:
I would engage Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit this morning but I don’t want to interrupt the markets while they are speaking.
@godwinha spews:
So, who woke up feeling better about #CrookedHillary this morning?
Look on the bright side spews:
The Dems will win the White House in 2020 as long as they run a moderate Democrat versus a liberal progressive. That means no Elizabeth Warren in 2020.
tensor spews:
@6:
Oh look, the same puerile hashtag. Quelle surprise.
All together, now:
LOCK HER UP!!
LOCK HER UP!!
LOCK HER UP!!
Michael Flynn will never, ever protect the national security of a non-Russian country.
Tom Vu spews:
Just watched the speech this morning….didnt vote for the guy, but it was better than expected….in fact, the left kinda got their asses handed to them…again.
Steve spews:
Looks like Doctor Dumbfuck is afflicted with premature DOW ejaculation. SAD!
“Dow would rise to 50,000 if Trump matches market performance under Obama”
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/14.....obama.html
Steve spews:
Looks like Doctor Dumbfuck has had a change of heart and loves teleprompters now.
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
8,
It’s all part of lowering the bar for the special needs hillbilly population.
Cast your eyes on 9 and see it all confirmed in tweet length.
The really sad thing will be, even when the hillbillies self-define their victory in terms of vastly expanding opiate addiction, widening income inequality, millions tossed from health insurance, steep increases in domestic terror events, collapse of trade, environmental plunder, rising inflation, and strip-mining Medicare and Social Security, their public approval continues to decline to record lows.
But you gotta admit, it’s fun watching the hillbillies lose at their own game, played by their own rules, on their home field.
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
I didn’t watch last night, I haven’t turned the TV on since November – don’t care to see bullshit.
But let’s see – If I heard correctly, propose to spend $1 Trillion on infrastructure, build a stupid wall for tens of billions, and to increase military spending, and no more talk of having to deal with fiscal restraint because of the astronomical deficit. And the stock market isn’t going to react.
But when Blakie proposed to spend the money on infrastructure and every step of the way is fiscal restraint, miraculously we have stagnant growth (but no recession).
Boy Boob you are one smart guy. No wonder you are a failed doctor.
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
@11 that’s not the only change of heart….they love everything they hated before, and they’ll even get on their knees to blow the bare chested horseman with a smile and glazed look in their eye.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Supporting police is not as unqualified as Preznit Drumpf might have you believe. It’s nuanced.
“Federal prosecutors say seven Baltimore police officers have been arrested on charges of racketeering, including allegedly robbing people, filing false affidavits and making fake claims for overtime. A news release Wednesday morning from the U.S. attorney’s office says one officer also is charged with drug distribution.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ba.....keteering/
Roger Rabbit Commentary: The vast majority of police officers are admirable public servants who do a professional job, but there are bad apples, and the barrel needs cleaning. Arguing that police are above criticism, as Drumpf does, perpetuates bad cops and hurts good ones.
Tom Vu spews:
12
Called it.
Tom Vu spews:
14
Sounds like some twisted gehy fantasy you have there….
Roger Rabbit spews:
@9 Trump proved last night he can read a speech out loud. Most of us can do that with little or no practice. I wonder who wrote it?
Czechsaaz spews:
“Only losers take auto shop.” Most of my friends in High School.
I drive a meticulously maintained 2005 fuel efficient car. Actually I bike and transit 75% of my trips anywhere since I largely work from home and have 3-4 days a month that I try to jam all my client visits into.
Why bring it up? Well I just got my tab renewal and that onerous ST fee that I voted for? $27.
$27.
My lord how will I afford it? (hint: same way I can afford an extra dollar each trip to fast food to pay for the minimum wage, happily.)
Czechsaaz spews:
“I’m going to create a published list of all crimes committed by ILLEGALS! By the way, why is there a sudden increase in crimes against people who are not just landscaping/kitchen brown but MD/Tech support brown too? I just can’t understand it.”
Roger Rabbit spews:
Here’s what people smarter than Doctor Dumbfuck make of it:
“Trump managed to jump over ‘a pretty low bar’ with speech but a reckoning may come”
“Although markets are celebrating President Donald Trump’s more upbeat message to Congress on Tuesday night … there’s still reason to think investors may be getting way ahead of themselves on the president’s ability to deliver on massive fiscal stimulus.
“From a political theater perspective, Trump clearly succeeded … From the outset, this was a different Trump. … Throughout the address, Trump generally returned to optimistic themes …. [I]nvestors … embraced the more presidential tone, figuring it will give Trump some fresh political capital … [for] comprehensive corporate and individual tax reform, along with a hefty stimulus package ….
“However, … Trump did not wade deeply into the thorny policy specifics bedeviling Congress. …
‘A pretty low bar’
“Somewhat surprisingly, Trump called for Congress to pass an immigration reform bill, with aides on Tuesday suggesting the president was ‘open’ to a path to citizenship for the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country. It remains very hard to see Congress, already overburdened with Obamacare, tax reform and the budget, coming together to do any such thing.
“Trump once again touted the stock market advance, something presidents usually avoid because markets also sometimes go down. …
“Wall Street analysts generally praised the speech but questioned the lack of any specific detail on tax reform.
“‘This was still a campaign speech …,’ Brown Brothers Harriman’s Scott Clemons said after the speech. ‘But it was light on details … both corporate and individual tax reform really got little more than a passing glance and no more details. I didn’t hear a whole lot that was new. He was certainly more presidential but that’s a pretty low bar.’
“The reality on Capitol Hill is that there is still no clear path forward on Obamacare and the August timetable laid out for tax reform is incredibly ambitious. … There is probably some final agreement available on tax reform, but the process could be long and hard, and cause investors to reset expectations.
“There is also little agreement on the Hill on how to structure any stimulus package. It’s not surprising markets are celebrating the emergence of a more presidential Trump. Yet we’ve seen that version before and it hasn’t lasted long. There still could be a market reckoning ahead.”
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/01.....-come.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Hey, don’t get me wrong, I’m not going to put a 300-point Dow jump in an envelope and mail it back to where it came from. The thing is, what goes up one day, can come down the next day. The market is already expensive, and this merely makes it more expensive. As regular HA readers know, I’m no fan of market timing, but stocks aren’t priceless, and at some point everything is for sale, know what I mean? We’re not quite there yet, but I can’t rule out making some sales to stupid hillbillies with more cash than brains, and then buying the stock back from them when the correction comes.
Tom Vu spews:
18
Ya, and Obama never ever used a teleprompter…..every time ever…never
Obama w/o teleptompter: ” ya..um, um..ya, um um um um…..um…..”
Czechsaaz spews:
While focusing on the speech you may have missed that DerTrumper signed the law repealing th Obama administration’s restrictions on gun purchases by mentally ill people.
Remember, it’s not the gun laws it’s the lack of mental health services or something.
Tom Vu spews:
19
2005 Moped?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@19 “I drive a meticulously maintained 2005 fuel efficient car.”
Throwing away your money on late-model wheels, eh? You’ll never get rich by being a big spender. Sam Walton drove a 25-year-old pickup.
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
21,
Dow watchers didn’t make the diff for Hillbilly Jesus last November. And they won’t make the diff for Trailer Trump Americans in 2018, nor for Preznit Bumblefuck in 2020.
If you take gains, it won’t be by selling to any of those ignorant, sister-fucking, trailer dwelling, shit stains who now define and control the direction of the GOP. It will be by selling to swaggering Libertardian-type dude-bros convinced somehow that a four year program of massive borrowing and unhinged nationalism will boost economic performance.
It will.
But in the long run only for well-connected Russian kleptocrats and war profiteers.
Na zdorovie!
Roger Rabbit spews:
Hey Doctor Dumbfuck, my stocks are up LESS than the DJIA today! Guess I’m a bad investor, huh? Let’s see why this is. The DJIA is up 1.47%, but Verizon, which I own, is up only 0.36%, and Procter & Gamble, which I also own, is up only 0.64%. Stocks like these drag a portfolio down, don’t they? I’ll bet you own all of the Dow 30 stocks that are up more than 2% and none of the ones that aren’t. After all, you’re a doctor, and doctors are smarter than God.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@26 Don’t discount the fact that some doctors, bankers, and business owners are hillbillies, too. They’re called Hillbillies With Money, and they’re as stupid as the rest of them.
I hope Doctor Dumbfuck, full of faith in the future, buys my stocks from me when the market P/E hits 35. Would serve him right, and I’ll gladly take his money.
Roger Rabbit spews:
I’m making about 900 times the Republican minimum wage today. Even a loser like me does better as a capitalist than by working for a living. We’re a capitalist society, not a worker society! Work is for the birds. We should all be capitalists, and nobody should do any work. Let robots do all the work, and own the robots!
Czechsaaz spews:
Donald Trump Made 61 Statements in his Speech. 51 of Them Were False
Czechsaaz spews:
“I’m a very successful television star. I get the hugest ratings and more people attended my inauguration than any in the history of America!”
Compared to President Barack Obama’s first address in 2009, Trump’s early ratings are down by 17 percent.
Speaking of ratings…Colbert.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@30 & 31: Puffery is what used car salesmen do. It’s their stock in trade, and they’re good at it. Just don’t ask them to perform surgery or run the world’s biggest government.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Where did Doctor Dumbfuck go? He must be out in the greenhouse watering his stock options.
Steve spews:
“No wonder you are a failed doctor”
Nah, I wouldn’t say that. It wouldn’t be truthful. A failed human being whose lack of an moral compass and quest to be snide has led him to Putin’s arms? Eh. Don’t get me started.
Tom Vu spews:
25
I can afford it
Tom Vu spews:
26
Called it
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
Will all this losing never end?
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
Too bad the FAUX News parent company lost the bidding war.
More hillbilly winning!
YLB spews:
The Nov 19 troll has 30k plus tweets and has rung up 360 some followers?
And it still trolls HA?
That’s some productive expenditure of one’s life energy there.
YLB spews:
Wow. The Obamas are going to be filthy rich..
A HUGE blow to the collective ego of the klownservatic trolls.
ALINSKY!!!! SOROS!!! FAST’N’FURIOUS!!! SOLYNDRA!!!! IRS!!! LERNER!!!! MAILSERVER!!!! CARELESS!!! RECKLESS!!!! (Flynn)
BENGHAAAAAAAAAZIIII!!!1!!!!1!!!!!
Steve spews:
This has gotta suck.
“TV Ratings For Obama’s First Address Beat Trump’s By Huge 17%”
http://crooksandliars.com/2017.....eat-trumps
tensor spews:
I can afford it.
Great! No more whining about ST3 from you, then.
ArtFart spews:
I guess I’m one of those dirty freeloaders. I’m over 65 and still work full time. I commute every day on Link and it costs me only a buck each way. My wife and I own a 20 year old Subaru and at the rate we’re putting miles on it we’ll almost certainly croak before it does.
If you’ve had to sign up for a third mortgage and send your kids out turning tricks on Aurora because you just couldn’t resist when Chevy declared it to be “Truck Month”…..sorry to tell ya, but I’m not your problem.
Trump Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry spews:
Congressional Republicans who refuse to do their patriotic duty and support Our Great Leader Trump must be cast out next year!
What part of America First don’t they understand?
We did not elect genius businessman outsider Donald J. Trump to be President in order to Make Israel Great Again, or to Make South Korea Great Again. As our Leader has said we must rebuild our military and our industry. And in order to do so we may have to cut excessively generous foreign aid and begin taxing foreign made goods. We should not be propping up dirty, Godless, foreign mongrel peoples at the expense of good decent Americans! Where is Reichert? Why is he silent? Where is Dan Newhouse? Where are McMorris Rodgers and Herrera Beutler?
Their silence speaks volumes!
If they are not for Americans First then they are against all of us!
Politically Incorrect spews:
Russia’s population is about 10% of China’s, and China is involved in seizing the South China Sea because it thinks there’s lots of oil there. Once China finally finishes claiming the area and gets to the production of oil, it will be energy independent and a major, major player in the world economy. China considers itself to be the center of the world and fully intends to dominate the world economy in this century.
That’s some bad news for the Russians because, not only is their economy weak in comparison to the Chinese, China has a heck of a lot more people. And China might decide to expand its borders to the North. Bad news for Russia if this comes to pass. I wonder if the Russians have any plans for handling potential Chinese aggression against Russia. Something for the Russians to think about, that’s for sure.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@35 No, you can’t. No matter how big your stock portfolio is, it isn’t big enough if you still need a job. You should have bought a $150 car and invested the difference.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@43 Nice to see at least one of you stupid humans has some brains.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@45 You sure are ignorant. South China Sea oil is small fry — a few billion or tens of billions of barrels. And when oil is cheap, as it is now, it makes more sense to buy other people’s oil than use your own. The fish are probably a bigger deal than the oil, with all those mouths to feed. But the major reasons China is trying to grab the whole of the SCS are (1) historical and cultural identity factors (a very big deal), (2) strategic, i.e. keep the U.S. Navy out, and (3) a third of the world’s seaborne commerce passes through it, including all of China’s exports.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Hey Doc! The Dow is up 6.8% since Jan. 1. My stocks? Up 9.8%. Fascism not only pays better than honest work, it pays better than honest capitalism! I didn’t vote for this, I’m only cashing in on it.
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
Eight to nuthin.
More hillbilly “winning”!
Once Gorsuch gets approved that’ll swing the Court fer sure.
@godwinha spews:
@ 48
I didn’t vote for this, I’m only cashing in on it.
Yeah, pretty soon you’re gonna need another quarter wrapper.
A 9.8% gain on Not Much gets you Not Much More, Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit.
@godwinha spews:
Anyone think the two weren’t fucking while Beau was alive and healthy?
Beau Biden’s widow having affair with his married brother
http://pagesix.com/2017/03/01/.....1488404503
Maybe this is why Biden didn’t run.
Donald Trump very well could be president because Joe Biden’s kid couldn’t keep away from the wife of Joe Biden’s other kid.
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
52,
really no need to over complicate things.
Donald Trump very well could be president because…
racist, backward, ignorant, sister-fucking hillbillies.
ftfy
Dipshit spews:
@45 yeah that plan probably includes a dumbfuck named Drumpf.
@godwinha spews:
@ 53
Donald Trump very well could be president because…
racist, backward, ignorant, sister-fucking hillbillies who voted for Obama last time around.
ftfy
Politically Incorrect spews:
Who would like to live on the Russian side of the Russia-China border, rodent? Not me, that’s for damn sure!
China will eventually turn its attention to grabbing territory from Russia. It may be decades away, but it’s coming.
Ekim spews:
Multiple US officials say no actionable or vital intelligence was gathered in the Yemen raid. (NBC News reporting)
So which is it?
1 DRUMPH lied to congress and the American people.
2 Gen Mattis lied to DRUMPH.
3 Or multiple US officials lied to NBC News.
I bet the surviving SEALS know.
tensor spews:
@55:
Donald Trump is president because a well-distributed minority of voters got Chumped by a con man on the reality teevee.
Keep it simple, stupid.
Ekim spews:
There is a glut of INTELLIGENCE ANALYSTS looking for work in the private sector. Something about not wanting to work for DRUMPH. I wonder why?
BTW, the NSA is starting to scramble for replacement analysts.
Sounds like an easy gig.
The WH tells the analysts the report’s conclusion.
The analysts paste in ALT FACTS to support that conclusion.
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
55,
Didn’t need ’em then. Never wanted ’em. Won’t need ’em next time. Enjoy your authoritarian hillbilly paradise while you can. No more hot wings at state dinners after 2020. Hope the food sweats and chest pains are worth it.
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
56,
if it happens before the end of 2020 your hillbilly half-children will be in for it. Russia owns your President. And he in turn owns your kids’ rifle carrying asses. You racist dumbfucks broke your trailer park. Fix it yourselves.
Tom Vu spews:
42
im not paying into ST3
Tom Vu spews:
46
yes, i can afford it. I can also afford things like paying for my kids college without taking any loans, AND invest. so whats your point?
another cool fact? I do not own a single credit card.
keep playing your penny stocks, then you will die, and it will be all for naught. Me…I am going to enjoy myself a little on the way.
Tom Vu spews:
53
you mean like your parents?
tensor spews:
im not paying into ST3
Considering how you apparently can’t afford punctuation marks or capital letters, that’s probably a good thing.
tensor spews:
@53:
Hey, don’t be too hard on the guy. He’s looking for evidence of Democratic sex scandals. That requires intense focus just to manufacture a guilt-by-association stretch like we saw here.
It’s not like he can just listen for the sound of one bathroom stall tapping, or follow the terrified screams of chased boys.
Tom Vu spews:
65
Ohhhh, better look out! Da punctuation police is on da prowl!
And thats from the guy who didnt even use a capitol letter for his own name.
tensor scores own goal again!
tensor spews:
And thats from the guy who didnt even use a capitol [sic] letter for his own name.
Did someone say something about an own-goal?
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
68,
He could have meant that, as in a letter sent from a capitol. That’s entirely plausible. Really.
YLB spews:
Oh come on! The settlement from Drumpf U couldn’t have covered that..
Oh but you were a top sales rep.. You got a discount. Yep, covered.
Lucky you.
YLB spews:
So good old boy Sessions talked to the Russians twice and at best misled the Senate in confirmation hearings.
RESIGN!!!!
Read all about it.
YLB spews:
Not even a Chase Amazon or Citi Costco? Hey you can get some “free” shit with those points.
We pay all our bills on that Amazon card and once a year or so get some kewl toys..
Can you dig it?
Steve spews:
“RESIGN!!!!”
Heh. So what did Doctor Treason know, and when did he know it?
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
72,
Not owning a credit card is a decidedly hillbilly move.
Troubled credit history and/or lack of impulse control cuts them out of airline miles, travel and accomodation discounts, member perks, and of course a great deal of financial flexibility.
Hillbillies gonna hillbilly.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Nancy Pelosi says Sessions committed perjury during his confirmation hearing and must resign. Some Republicans are now calling for a special prosecutor.
Dipshit spews:
@71 I wonder if any blowjobs were involved.
Dipshit spews:
US Construction Spending Drops 1% in January; – ENR.
Construction is usually and indicator of the economy to come.
Hope that stock market doesn’t crash one day.
http://www.enr.com/external_he....._caption=1
Tom Vu spews:
70
Never heard of Drumpf U.
Im not in sales…mostly.
0-2
Tom Vu spews:
72
I can dig it.
Tom Vu spews:
74
Lolz.
Nah….i would rather make interest than pay it.simple as that.
You dont need credit cards to have 750+ score…….well, maybe somebody like you does.
Better go make that monthly payment elijah…lolz…..sucker.
Tell your mom said hello…
@godwinha spews:
So, if Sessions recuses, then it’s Comey. Just as when Lynch essentially recused herself after that tarmac visit from Slick Willy.
Everyone OK with that?
Seems to me Sessions should recuse. Also seems to me that YLB will be in resignation hysterics for a few days the same way he was in impeachment hysterics before finally realizing that impeachment and conviction of President Trump gets him President Pence.
Tom Vu spews:
76
Were you there servicing the glory hole? Or were you too busy down at the bath house?
@godwinha spews:
With typical liberal expertise, it didn’t work. The illegal alien is in custody in Tacoma.
A Multnomah County Judge Allegedly Helped an Undocumented Immigrant Escape ICE Through Her Courtroom Door
http://www.wweek.com/news/2017.....-chambers/
I wonder if this DUII violation is the type of “traffic ticket” mentioned yesterday on NPR as justification for detaining some of those here illegally.
tensor spews:
@81:
Maybe they can hire Ken Starr to investigate Sessions. Now that the guy who investigated Clinton’s consensual sex has been fired from Baylor U. for failing to restrain the raging rape culture there, he can do another great job of finding nothing to prosecute.
Tom Vu spews:
68
Lol….guilty on that one…..capital!
Steve spews:
@85 I was wondering before, who or what is a Negan?? Then I saw the name in an ad for, what was it, Walking Dead? I’ve never seen that show. Now I just did a search for Tom Vu. “Oh, that guy!”
@godwinha spews:
@ 86
Now search Godwin and then review Goldy’s twitter feed for, oh, about the first four weeks after the election.
tensor spews:
But will Sessions survive in office long enough to destroy Washington State’s thriving economy in legal cannabis?
Since destroying businesses is his boss’s core competency, he should at least give it a try before his own impeachment and removal.
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
80,
I see.
So when you travel for work or incur other bus expenses you are giving your employer an interest free loan. And you were saying something about earning interest?
At least those of us with impulse control earn miles, hotel rooms, priority boarding, upgrades, etc.
Better stay on top of those expense reports and pray the nice ladies in payables dont sit on them.
You remind me of a time when I was starting out. There was an educational coference in DC and almost all of the junior staff in the office were to attend. It was a small company and the bosses just left it up to the staff to arrange travel and rooms. Many of us were only a few years out of school and there were actually quite a few people who did not have credit cards. I very gladly agreed to purchase all their rooms and flights. Got a (mostly) free trip to Costa Rica.
tensor spews:
@89:
He has no credit cards, but a high credit rating; drives a big SUV that did not get stuck in the worst traffic of the year, and he claims I work at a minimum-wage job.
(‘Tis pity he didn’t tell us how many Playboy models he was hauling around, too.)
@godwinha spews:
Resign, get voted out of office…
Either works.
Charles C. W. CookeVerified account
@charlescwcooke
Claire McCaskill says she’s had “no call or meeting w/Russian ambassador. Ever.” But she tweeted about two. It’s easy to forget.
6:09 AM – 2 Mar 2017
@godwinha spews:
gman hauls beautiful women around all day, in his windowless van.
Most of them are petrified by now, but some still have an odor.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@81 “impeachment and conviction of President Trump gets him President Pence”
Who, as far as we can tell, isn’t trying to sell our country down the river; isn’t a racist or groper; won’t turn the White House over to Breitbart; and isn’t the lying cheat that Trump is. So, we’ll take him as the (far) lesser of two evils. Any day. Got anything else, doc?
Pacific Legal Foundation spews:
Are you going to delete this post, too?
Tom Vu spews:
Right on both counts Steve.
Tom Vu is infomercial legend…..
“…yes this is get rich quick scheme! Life is too short to get rich slowly!”
Tom Vu spews:
90
How are those not normal things?
I was south of downtown that day…and live SE of the metro area…therefore the traffic jam was not relevant to me
Wow….so hard to believe…
And I said SUV, not big SUV….
Its a pretty normal life actually…i choose not to live in a bum infested shithole, drive myself to work, and dont carry much consumer debt…..guess thats abnormal to you seattle socialist types…
Oh…..sounds like Pierce county, or parts of it, are going to withdraw from funding ST3…could be interesting…
Tom Vu spews:
90
Sorry to disapoint…no playboy models…just hauling around blueprints and golf clubs.
Hard to carry that stuff on a choo choo, dont ya think?
Tom Vu spews:
Or….maybe i could hire a filthy, stinky, herion addicted bum to carry my stuff on the choo choo…….nah, nevermind.
Tom Vu spews:
I can keep smacking you around like a ho trying to short pay her pimp if you like tensor(with a lower case t)…..just say the word
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
96 unabridged,
I was south of downtown that day
clerking at the Home Despot on Lander,… and live SE of the metro areain a trailer in Black Diamond… therefore the traffic jam was not relevant to mebecause I was scheduled to close and wouldn’t be leaving until after 10pm.Its a pretty
desperatenormal life actuallyfor a hillbilly…ican’t possibly afford to live in King County and make child support payments on minimum wagechoose not to live in a bum infested shithole,work variable retail hours and eat lunch in my car so transit doesn’t work for medrive myself to work, andblew my credit score on medical bankruptcydont carry much consumer debt…..because of my race/ethnicity I feel entitled to a better life than thisguess thats abnormal to you seattle socialist types…Tom Vu spews:
100
Projection much?
Called it.
Steve spews:
“just hauling around blueprints and golf clubs”
Same stuff that’s in my truck. We’ll have to go golfing one of these days. Your Canadian project – is that with Onni or Westbank? We actually have both in the office, but we’re not doing electrical for Frye.
Czechsaaz spews:
“I can afford to pay for my kid’s college.”
There’s either a liar there or a financial idiot.
If you have good credit and income you can finance an education through various loans (or even low interest credit cards) and pay less in interest than you are earning keeping the money invested.
Pencil it out.
Say it’s 50,000 for four years with room and board and you paid cash. You made zero on that 50,000.
If you stuck $50,000 into a really crappy account earning only 3% annually you would have $60,000 in six years.
If you financed the $50,000 tuition at 6% over ten years you will spend about $60,000.
So would you in the long run earn more with your money in your investment account and financing tuition or is it wise to just pay the tuition in cash as you claim to do?
When it comes time I may be better off leaving the money I’ve been investing for college as investment and looking for a low rate home equity loan to finance University. We’ll see.
@godwinha spews:
@ 103
Chump change.
We’ve got the cash, when tuition and rent were due we paid it. Who the fuck has time to fill out every application known to man so we can game the float?
I could probably take advantage of “Pay no interest until…” deals that show up in the mail, too. There isn’t enough $$ savings/earnings potential to make it worthwhile.
Czechsaaz spews:
@104
Sorry you’re too stupid to make money then. Investing comes more naturally to some people.
You could pay a professional to do it for you too. Assuming you have good credit they would advise you to never, ever make a really really large lump sum purchase when favorable financing is available.
tensor spews:
@99:
You can keep talking about “my” minimum-wage job all you like, too. I think it’s amusing, your need to tell such silly lies about me.
Also, traffic south of downtown was snarled for hours after the tanker crash, so that’s another of your obvious lies.
Finally, not all of Pierce County is in the Sound Transit taxing district now, fool.
tensor spews:
…just hauling around blueprints and golf clubs.
Hard to carry that stuff on a choo choo, dont ya think?
I could carry many engineering documents in the laptop in my shoulder bag, but we usually have VPN at our job sites, so I’d rather not put my clients’ proprietary data at risk.
Passengers with several large travel bags going to or from Sea-Tac are a common sight on Link Light Rail, so if I had a need to carry golf clubs in Seattle in Winter, I guess I could do that, too.
How many holes did you play this week with those clubs you paid gas money to haul around? I’m guessing zero.
Tom Vu spews:
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czech,
While what you wrote may be true, you left out an important option….use of the GET program.
We started paying right after each child was born. Problem solved. Other expenditures arising from college(off campus housing, spending money, etc…) are easily dealt with from current household budget. At this time we are not foreseeing that much of a financial impact..maybe just a few minor adjustments, but it will business as usual…
thinking and planning ahead has its advantages.
Tom Vu spews:
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if I am already south of downtown, and heading further south -then how is the tanker debacle causing me issues?
Guess you will tell me next that southbound Tacoma traffic was snarled up too because of the tanker accident in seattle…. lulz.
You seem generally upset and disappointed that I didnt get caught up in it…something tells me that even your choo choo ride had some issues….
arent you getting raise to $15 an hour soon? you should be full of joy! just think of all the stank bums and drug zombies you get to tell on the choo choo! party time!
Look on the bright side spews:
If Jeff Sessions resigns, it will be good for Washington and the rest of the country.
Keep your fingers crossed!
Tom Vu spews:
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and I actually went to the driving range this week, so there’s that….my schedule is all over the place, so I need flexibility, which is one thing the choo choo has ZERO of.
Thats great for passengers, who are carrying luggage ONCE every time they travel. Try doing that everyday to and from work. no thanks.
Look dude, if it works for you, great. Have at it, just remember the price tag once its done. IDGAF.
The bottom line is, it serves a pretty narrow portion of the puget sound workforce…kinda like the asinine bike lanes in downtown seattle, serving 1% of the commuters out there.
Its not how I would choose to travel, even if it was available where I live.
Steve spews:
Can’t speak for Max, but I prefer hard copies of drawings.
If my clubs are in my truck, I’m ready to play golf anytime. In winter, if I decide that I want to head to the range, no problem. Perhaps I’ve wasted a few dinosaurs by toting them around in my pickup, but unless riding is mandatory, I always walk the course, carrying my clubs. So at least I’ve got that going for me.
Some courses, you’d better ride in that damned cart. If one tries to remove the bag from the cart while playing at Pebble Beach, say just to carry it across the fairway to play a shot, some fucker will jump out of a bush every goddamned time and nail you for it.
If anybody thinks golf is a rich man’s game, try hanging out at Jefferson Park some afternoon.
Steve spews:
I actually saw a cyclist riding in the 2nd Avenue bike lane the other day. That makes about a dozen or so I’ve seen over the two years since I started working downtown again.
Tom Vu spews:
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Well no shit sherlock, that not all of Pierce Co. in ST taxing zone – not all of King Co is either.
But, Piece Co voted against ST3 by 56%, which is why there is a move to extract them, or parts of them(like I said), from ST…
who knows what will happen….but I will tell you this. Once the ST bills start coming in(which they are starting to now), you can forget EVER getting another large scale ST(4 or 5) to pass the voters anywhere outside of Seattle(and maybe Seattle too).
ST3 was too big, and coming from an agency that does not have the best record….what ST3 did was poison the drinking well for future taxation of transit(and other stuff too probably). It should have been cut down in size and scope to allow more flexibility with funds availability and design intent over the coming years and decades….and to make it more palatable to voters who dont expect shit back from it for 20-30 years.
Tom Vu spews:
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lol steve…..good thing they put those roads on “diets”..
You know, we talked about playing golf a couple of years ago and it didnt happen…..lets make it happen this summer for sure.
Tom Vu spews:
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I agree with exactly what Steve said.
….hard to scribble notes on digital plans. Ya, I know it can be done, but I am old school…..back from when we drew blueprints by hand in college. CAD? whats that? :P
Tom Vu spews:
Oh, and in case anybody was wondering…..its all you need to know..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzsSpDyBc_4
Steve spews:
Revit? Fuck that shit!
YLB spews:
Every financial adviser worth anything says you max out your tax-advantaged savings options FIRST before you set anything aside for your kids education..
You can get loans (low cost, subsidized) for college..
Can you get loans for your retirement?
Tom Vu spews:
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LMFAO steve…..you know!
Tom Vu spews:
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I would agree with that.
One caveat though regarding GET, is that when you sign up, you lock in at the current going rate of attending a university. How much does tuition go up in 18 years? A whole hell of a lot…..we will be paying 1999 tuition costs when our next one goes to college this fall.
Tom Vu spews:
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The key is to not have any loans or debt at retirement…. including not having a mortgage….
Czechsaaz spews:
@108
GET works great as long as your kid stays in state. You can apply the funds to out of state but you’re only getting the current in-state UW tuition to apply to that. And tuition at a private college may not rise as fast as UW so ROI may be better elsewhere.
If you parked four years of UW tuition in a GET account at birth you likely would do better putting the same lump sum into a different investment. Especially since UW rolled back tuition rates last year.
Tom Vu spews:
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Wrong
GET works in most states…mine are not in or going into college in washington, and have not been impacted by going out of state.
Tom Vu spews:
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And how often does tuition ever get roled back? Like never, accept this one time…who coulda predicted that?
Regardless, we are happy with the investment….no loans to take out, and no real impact to our usual budget…win win.
YLB spews:
@125 Damn how disappointing.. What makes up for the future costs of your kids education?
OTHER PEOPLE”S MONEY..
Marxist.. Geez if Romney and Cruz could shill for self-deportation, you could show the way with self-execution..
Heh. Got the popgun handy??
Tom Vu spews:
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The state has made interest $$ on the money we have paid them over the 18 year period.
Hardly what i would call marxist…and yes, marxist’s should be made extinct. Got a prob with that? Tough shit
Maybe you shoulda got a GET acct….
Keep being clueless YLShe
Tom Vu spews:
YLShe always trying to stir up the shit in a (rare) civil conversation on HA.
go eat a taco.
Tom Vu spews:
126
“Got the popgun handy?”
Why, you looking to get popped?
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
@88 hopefully complete destruction and Boob and Naggy Faggy wet their pants.
LONG LIVE IRELAND – HOME OF THE FREE AND THE BRAVE, WHERE THEY HAVE NO TRAITORS!
AMERICA – HOME TO THE RUSSIAN LOVING CORRUPT SCUM. Company keeps the same company – just like the Boob and the Naggy Faggy.
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
@97 what moron still carries blueprints with him – ever hear of technology?
Dope.
tensor spews:
Thats great for passengers, who are carrying luggage ONCE every time they travel. Try doing that everyday to and from work. no thanks.
Also seen on Link Light Rail are commercial aircrews, who lay over in hotels downtown between one day’s flying and the next. Link is far more convenient for them than airport hotels or ground transport.
So you won’t ever ride Link, and you childishly call it a choo-choo. Do you think I consider those to be problems? (Hint: since you’re paying for it while I ride it, the joke is on you, pal.)
As for the rest of your claims, they go in the same pile as your claim I make minimum wage. Again, I’m not the one looking stupid.
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
So much unraveling today surrounding Putingate. Sessions admits he discussed a deal on Ukraine with Kislyak. Sessions steps aside on hacking investigation. And Trump admits he arranged a meeting between Kislyak and Flynn at Trump Tower in December.
Any day now expect to see the 19.5% stake in Rosneft secretly transferred to “an unknown private party” in December very quietly transferred back to Russian state ownership.
Na zdrov’ye!
ArtFart spews:
@89 Did you drink all the likka’?
Steve spews:
@87 “Now search Godwin and then review Goldy’s twitter feed for, oh, about the first four weeks after the election.”
Sorry, but I don’t read Goldy’s tweets, much less reply to them in threads he never reads.
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
This does not look good.
Today Teh Hillbilly Jesus announced that he still has “total” confidence in Sessions.
Chip Kelly is standing by!
The Wisdom of PissCan (present Tom Du) spews:
So Naggy is driving around with drawings in the back or trunk of his vehicle. What kind of high paid individual would do that. But at the same time some low wage earner isn’t going to do that either, so Naggy is just some middle of the road “builder” that thinks more of himself. I wonder how often he pulls them out to look at them, maybe after he 7 putts each hole?
If the company I worked for told me or the job required to haul around drawings today like it use to, I’d probably tell them that I’d rather make $8.00 per hour – fuck that. Must not work for a good enough company that can purchase and support good technology, otherwise why carry that shit around? It would be like paying for a tower crane that you didn’t need!
I had an uncle who was a developer of residential buildings. He would be I think about 98 if he weren’t dead. He’s the last guy I can remember who had plans in the back of his trunk, other than myself 20 years ago.
Does it snow a lot where Naggy lives? Does he use the added weight to help keep the hillbilymobile from skidding off the road?
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
$3,550 federal tax return not bad. I’ll take it.
tensor spews:
But, Piece Co voted against ST3 by 56%,
ST3 doesn’t do as much for Pierce Co. as the earlier editions did, yet 44% voted for it. That’s hardly the widespread revulsion you claim.
…there is a move to extract them, or parts of them(like I said), from ST…
So, this “move” — has it filed an Initiative to the legislature to move the boundaries of the ST taxing district? Is it getting citizens to contact their legislators in support of such movement? What evidence have we of any “move”?
Like-minded whiners occasionally whining at each other is not a “move,” it’s a gripe-fest which accomplishes exactly nothing.
tensor spews:
if I am already south of downtown, and heading further south -then how is the tanker debacle causing me issues?
On my ride through SoDo on Link, I saw enormous amounts of ground traffic — second only to when there are events at the stadiums. It wasn’t moving that quickly, though.
You seem generally upset and disappointed that I didnt get caught up in it…
I’m quite confident you got caught in it; that’s why you’re flailing against admitting it in two different threads.
…something tells me that even your choo choo ride had some issues….
Do you even know what Link is, or how it operates?
arent you getting raise to $15 an hour soon? you should be full of joy! just think of all the stank bums and drug zombies you get to tell on the choo choo! party time!
Nope, you don’t. Thanks for the confirmation!
tensor spews:
but I will tell you this. Once the ST bills start coming in(which they are starting to now), you can forget EVER getting another large scale ST(4 or 5) to pass the voters anywhere outside of Seattle(and maybe Seattle too).
So, you engage in loud-mouthed, uninformed, opinionated preaching AND you believe I has a sad you’re not riding Link with me? Really?
ST3 was too big, and coming from an agency that does not have the best record….what ST3 did was poison the drinking well for future taxation of transit(and other stuff too probably).
Ah, yes: the always-predicted dystopia borne of liberal policies, which never, ever arrives, no matter how many times critics of those liberal policies predict its imminent arrival.
(Don’t worry — you can interleave such predictions with bitter whining about how liberal Seattle never rejects a tax increase. Making diametrically opposite statements which are *both* wrong is the closest you come to an accomplishment.)
It should have been cut down in size and scope…
Because a smaller transit system has more appeal to potential riders? You seriously expect anyone to fall for this?
…and to make it more palatable to voters who dont expect shit back from it for 20-30 years.
None of that happened, and yet ST3 passed easily. Thanks for your concern-tolling, loser!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@104 I take it, then, you don’t claim rebates or cash grocery coupons. A busy doctor like you is much too important to waste his time on such banal matters.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@127 “marxist’s should be made extinct”
Really? If people in a foreign land want to live under a marxist system, it’s your place to tell them they can’t? Much less to threaten to make them “extinct”?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@129 Your response says everything about your mindset that anybody needs to know.
Tom Vu spews:
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Hey Steve, you read that? I guess the scheduler thinks we are morons for using prints. You think he’s actually ever been in a design meeting or on site….anywhere?
oh man…..laughing so hard snot came out.
Dude- you are 50-ish. There is a reason your a just a scheduler…and you keep showing it every damn day.
everyone has a ceiling I guess….some lower than others.
Tom Vu spews:
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wrong again…I no pay for choo choo….me keepum money in pocket.
Tom Vu spews:
have you seen what most aircrews carry for luggage? LOL..its basically a backpack with wheels….
failz
Steve spews:
“Hey Steve, you read that?”
I’m still cleaning the snot off my blueprints.
Tom Vu spews:
130
OK Gman…break time is over, get back to the glory hole.
tensor spews:
I no pay for choo choo….me keepum money in pocket.
You spent an awful lot of time, just here in this one thread, complaining about something you claim not to pay for.
have you seen what most aircrews carry for luggage? LOL..its basically a backpack with wheels….
You’re thinking of their old flight bags. They wear uniforms on the job, which take up space aplenty.
I like how desperate you get when your airy assertions crash and burn in reality. Please keep it coming!
Tom Vu spews:
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1. is..that…like…a lot of money or something?
2. who the fuck posts their tax returns on a blog?
funny thing…I just came back from a design review page-turn meeting(with real actual blueprints!!!!) with reps from the largest airplane maker in the world and one of the largest design houses in Seattle.
oh that airplane maker…they are so backwards…
but hey, pisscan Gman says nobody uses hard copies anymore.
“scheduler”….after 30 years in the industry and a claimed degree
talk about hitting some low, low expectations in life, man you fucking nailed ’em gman!
Tom Vu spews:
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got on/off two flights last weekend…saw lots of aircrews…carrying nothing bigger than a glorified backpack on wheels.
guess I will take pix next time. (((shrugs)))
Tom Vu spews:
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you must be a moron! :P
Tom Vu spews:
150
IDGAF t(with a lower case t)ensor.
you sit next the bums all you want on the choo choo….makes a no matta to me.
I used heated seats today, on the way home..btw. was really nice.
Tom Vu spews:
I cant stop laughing….this whole thread is like a Jeff Ross Comedy Roast.
(((((notice the caps t(with a lower case t)ensor??))))
tensor spews:
got on/off two flights last weekend…saw lots of aircrews…carrying nothing bigger than a glorified backpack on wheels
And you also likely saw plenty of passengers, each with just one carry-on bag, too. This “proves” they didn’t check any bags, right?
guess I will take pix next time.
I’m sure the crews and the TSA and such will have no problem at all. Good luck with that!
Tom Vu spews:
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So, this “move” — has it filed an Initiative to the legislature to move the boundaries of the ST taxing district? Is it getting citizens to contact their legislators in support of such movement? What evidence have we of any “move”?”
There are two bills being proposed to the legislature.
current events n stuff…..
how was the choo choo ride today? Did you get the choo choo driver to make any stops along the way for groceries? or catch the kid’s wrestling match? or to take you to the doctor for the rectal exam? or……..
what? no? you mean they dont take you everywhere you wanna go…in record time no less? and you get off the choo choo smelling like bum poo?
oh. (((((((cue in Price is Right loser music))))))
just gonna keep winding you up and watching you run…..
Tom Vu spews:
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1. HAHHAHAHAHHAHAH…how fucking often have you seen aircrews at baggage claim? wait..do you even fly?
2. Since there were some of them on the same hotel shuttle I was on, with nary a checked bag in site, I kinda figure they had all their stuff.
3. HAHHAHHAHHAHHAH…….they travel light! because they arent on vacation, they travel light! fuck me running – i can pack 2 suits, dress shoes, AND go-out-at-night outfights for a 3 day trip in a small carry-on…how much shit do you think a pilot brings?
OMG….laughing like all get out.
cmon dude…keep going!
Elijah Dominic McDotCom spews:
It’s a damn good thing that hillbilly troll “Puddy” is only an IT professional in the make believe pretend world of Trailer Trump America.
‘Cause in the for realsies world of Trailer Trump America CBP does not believe that black folks can be software engineers. If they so much as showed him TEH CHROME he’d never clear customs
tensor spews:
There are two bills being proposed to the legislature.
That’s nice. Care to tell how many bills get “proposed to the legislature” each session? How about the percentage which actually pass? What are the chances an agency which just won big at the polls will be re-worked because one of three counties gave it only a large minority?
Good luck with all of that.
how was the choo choo ride today?
Rapid and clean, as always. How was traffic? What are gas prices like these days?
…groceries?
I get those delivered to my home. How were the lines at your local supermarket?
you mean they dont take you everywhere you wanna go…in record time no less?
Well, my office and Sea-Tac are both easily accessible. Most everything else is within walking distance, and I have a car-share membership for anything which isn’t.
How much is auto insurance these days? Yes, that IS more than I pay! Good for you!
and you get off the choo choo smelling like bum poo?
I thought you said you never ride Link?!?
just gonna keep winding you up and watching you run…..
Every bitter, contrafactual complaint you fabricate about Sound Transit is further proof you’re not paying for it. Trust me on this.
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
@151 Wrong again I didn’t say no one uses plans anymore. I said nobody carries them around in thier cars anymore. I’ve got plentry of plans in the office and the office is full of plans. Im not lugging aroun 200 lb drawings with me and I’d have to have a much bigger office for all the plans for the 15 or so projects I work on. Dumbfuck. Wipe the snots off your brain.
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
@151 typically ploy by a person that can’t win by he truth. Feed lies and bend the truth and deflect and false equivalency. How about all them liberals that sat and didn’t honor the soldier Drumpf got killed,
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
151 who the Fock wastes more time on a blog than you. Rape your mommy yet?
@godwinha spews:
Getting tickets to a Seahawks game might be about to get easier.
Colin Kaepernick, from 49ers to Seahawks? Don’t be shocked
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sport.....ar-AAnIJRM
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
Can’t speak for Max, but I prefer hard copies of drawings. Steve thanks for proving that many are getting away from hard copies.
Not saying they are getting rid of them, sure there are still page turns and drawings lying all over ones desk and floor, but plenty of people going electronic.
So Naggy,take some of those drawings home and use them to protect your mattress from pee and shit stains.
When I work at home it’s all electronic. Don’t have space for drawings. 3 monitors help
Tom Vu spews:
165
Dude you backtrack like a pro!
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
@145 was on a site today. And I will be on another tomorrow. Like I’ve said, and you know, I have + or – 15 projects.
So once again, everything you ever say out of you asshole is never right. Dumbfuck.
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
Backtrack my ass. Tell me how. Identify where I backtracked. You can’t because everything you have to say is bullshit. Go ahead tell me what I first said and then what I bactrack on. You can’t.
YLB spews:
“The state has made interest $$ on the money we have paid them over the 18 year period.”
Yeah right! I did the math – the annualized return since 1998 beats the S&P 500. How many mutual funds do that over that long a time? And what does the G in GET stand for dumbass???
GUARANTEED..
By who? The TAXPAYERS! Execute thyself MARXIST…
Who’d a thunk Mr. Commie hating, boot strap on the pud puller would take advantage of a gubmint program?
“trying to stir up the shit in a (rare) civil conversation”
Cry me a fucking river asswipe! Some don’t forget your posting record here.
Load the glock marxist and make the world a better place.
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
If I was a Boeing exec. I would have tossed you out of the page turn like I just tossed you out here. Goodbye.
YLB spews:
Now we turn our attention to another troll idiot: boob…
“Also seems to me … before finally realizing that impeachment and conviction of President Trump gets him President Pence.”
It “seemed” to silly boob that it was a victim of 40 some pages of a reconciliation bill that it confused with a 901 page Health Care bill that got 60 votes in the US Senate..
Sorry boob, no such realization on my part about Drumpf and Pence. Another fantasy on your part.. Drumpf gets impeached after 2018 so that Pence is defeated in 2020.. Said the same in the very thread.
Prattle on as usual..
Czechsaaz spews:
@124
You use the word wrong wrong.
GET does work out of state for the value of UW at the time of enrollment but you don’t get anything back if you overspent. The value of you GET account is the in-state tuition value of UW.
If the age of your kids is working out for you, great. But if you took your own plan and dropped a bunch of cash into GET in 2014 your account has lost value. And what if WA finally gets their McCleary act together and tuition only rises between 2-6% over the next decade?
You’d be better off investing your money elsewhere. GET is like an all blue chip IRA. Safe but probably low yield. If you’re not risk averse and a smart investor you can do way better.
tensor spews:
HAHHAHAHAHHAHAH…how fucking often have you seen aircrews at baggage claim? wait..do you even fly?
Jesus Q. Cricket on a cracker, you’re an idiot. Of course the air crew doesn’t go to the passengers’ baggage carousel. Why? Because they’re not passengers, you moron. Do you actually believe that every last item which was carried in the cargo hold winds up on the baggage carousel?
Since there were some of them on the same hotel shuttle I was on, with nary a checked bag in site, I kinda figure they had all their stuff.
Because it’s impossible for the airline to have their larger bags delivered directly to their hotel?
Did you take pictures of the crews? Did you tell them why?
… I can pack 2 suits, dress shoes, AND go-out-at-night outfights for a 3 day trip in a small carry-on…
Yet it’s totally impossible for you even to imagine that other persons take larger bags on Link Light Rail to Sea-Tac.
Here’s a thought for you: if you have to go through such painful gyrations to avoid admitting you lost, that means you lost.
Have fun paying car insurance, standing in line at the grocery store, and congratulating yourself on how smart you are.
Steve spews:
“Steve thanks for proving that many are getting away from hard copies”
Hard copy drawings are not obsolete. Contractors are not out in the field constructing buildings using their smart phones. The problem I see is that young designers who have never even seen a plot before, only what they see on a screen, are producing the worst contract documents I’ve ever seen because half the drawing, half of the contract, disappears when plotted and they don’t even fucking know it. They haven’t a clue. But maybe they’ll get a clue when a judge or arbitrator rules that “your contract documents are unconstructable”.
Dipshit spews:
@174.
Agree that drawings are not obsolete. And contractors are not building using their smart phones. But I’ve not been out west but here in the east some, maybe a minority at the moment, are using tablets in the field with the contract documents and shop drawings on the tablets for easier reference. And the tablets have the latest drawings that are updated or marked up with RFI’s (Request for Infotmation) and Designer issued changes. That’s something you don’t see people doing, building in the field with drawings with the most current information posted, could be costly some times.
In our field offices, we supplement drawings with large screen monitors wall hung, again with updated documents that have RFI and latest Bulletins and ASI’s, that many use instead of the drawings. The drawings are even linked to one another so that the sections and elevation and blowups are all finger pointed links that jump you from document to document.
Are closeout documents – asibuilts and o&I’m manuals are all transmitted electronically. Owners don’t want hard copies of as-built drawings.
Estimators are using estimating programs, On-Center for one, that they no longer quantify or do takeoff with Hard Copies. Most, if not all, the takeoff done by our estimators are with electronic drawings.
Out VDC group, using all electronic version of design documents, but not even those, they work with the Designer’s 3D model.
We have steel subcontractors using models. I’ve worked with a subcontractor’s steel model and applied schedule to it.
I have an electronic studio with most if not all the design documents in one link. For all 15 (approx) of the projects I work on.
All the proposals sent to us from owners and architects are all electronic files (drawings and Documents). Sure some within our company still print out hard copies but for all it is not necessary, depends on how you need to use them.
Speaking of shitty designers. You ever have the need to overlay what use to be done on a light table two drawings to see what changes were made but not clouded by the designers? Easiest way to do that is with electronic files.
And designers drawings aren’t a whole lot worse because of technology, I would disagree there, yeah they do suck, but that’s because if you don’t idiots like Maggy that have 3 years of experience and think they are so great, and the firm doing away with their more costly experienced guy (and now gals). Quality suffers because cost (lower Fees and owners wanting design complete overnight).
So yeah, drawings aren’t obsolete, like I said I have done on my desk right now, but depending on your needs they are becoming more obsolete.
The pictures of advertisement of the construction guy looking at drawings is also going by the wayside, bring replaced with guys looking at tablets.
Robots Steve! Roberts. Can’t call them obsolete (just yet) but sounds like you are behind the times and don’t like change
Dipshit spews:
https://www.google.com/search?q=ENR+photo+of+construction+worker+and+Tablet&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZx8Loj7rSAhUC4yYKHdFCApMQ_AUIBygB&biw=320&bih=460#imgrc=2igurar0KRR2ZM:
http://www.vrroom.buzz/sites/d.....eady_0.png
http://www.enr.com/ext/resourc.....1469543454
http://www.dexterchaney.com/im.....tablet.jpg
Do they still have horse and buggy in Washington?
Ok,the guy in the Dozer, he’s watching gay porn. My bad.
Dipshit spews:
http://m.contractormag.com/col.....field-0511
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
Hey Steve, what scheduling program are you using or your peer using. I hope it’s not Microsoft Project like Naggy Faggy Fu Vu Doo Tom.
Steve spews:
“Can’t call them obsolete (just yet) but sounds like you are behind the times and don’t like change”
No, I welcome change. So do contractors. Whether one uses a pencil or computer modeling as a design tool, it’s still the human mind behind the design that matters. Frank Lloyd Wright used pencils. How many architects do you know who stand above him?
The Wisdom of PissCan spews:
I agree with you – not saying that going electronic drawings (no pencils) makes it any superior or those using pencils are less.
That isn’t the discussion here – the discussion here is regarding using electronic drawings as a builder or general contractor or construction manager as opposed to prints. The prints that Whack Job is carrying around as ballast in his car/truck.
You guys seem to be knocking or invalidating the use of electronic drawings and indicating that they aren’t used by an “professional”. Which clearly isn’t only wrong, but not the direction we are headed with technology.
Robots! Damn Robots!
You are right they do welcome change – and they are changing, unlike you an Naggy seemed to indicate or make people believe. I believe you and he blew snots out at the notion of it.
Do you always blow snots out at change? Are you the progressive, I think you said you are?