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Open Thread 5/23

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– The first time I read the Silicon Sound I thought it sounded pretty good. But maybe it’s catching up to somewhere else.

– So, related to the Salon piece, I think articles like it serve as important reminders of how Wikipedia’s form, so to speak, can’t always be separated from its content. (h/t)

– Jesus, London

– Just remember: the state can’t touch our guns (or require tornado shelters) because of freedom…but adults’ private decisions about whom to love must suffer the full brunt of state power.

– I am going to opt for not being in the same car as your dog, sorry.

– I digitally scan bowling ball surfaces and I vote

Comments

  1. 1

    What’s so bad about being able to spit in the eye of a caged dog that can’t chase you? =:)

  2. 2

    @ 1

    It would seem likely that the caged dog has already been subjected to abuse, and all you’d be doing is adding to his misery and fueling the hate he holds for the human race.

  3. 3

    I posted this at the end of a dying thread so I thought I repost it here.

    What the party of small, non-intrusive government wants to do for the women of Virginia,

    http://crooksandliars.com/susi.....miscarriag

    “If a woman in Virginia has a miscarriage without a doctor present, they must report it within 24 hours to the police or risk going to jail for a full year.”

    Every miscarriage is a potential homicide and demands investigation. In comments here I joking called these investigators the “Pussy Squad”.

    Ladies, if you suffer a miscarriage then don’t take time for grief and sorrow. The Republicans of Virginia will have you save that for a later day. Instead, call the police right away. Failure to do so could result in your conviction of a crime and you could very well spend a year in jail.

  4. 4

    @2 “human race”

    Oh, let me have fun pretending to be a rabbit, will ya?! Do we have to be serious all the time?

  5. 5

    @3 Conservatives’ assertions that they’re against government intrusion into our private lives are just another bullshit myth. It all depends on what kind of intrusion and against whom.

    We know they’re not against all government spending. They’re in favor of their spending. We saw that during the Reagan/GOP and Bush/GOP spending sprees.

    We know they’re not against government spying on private citizens. We saw that when Bush got caught lying about warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil. Conservatives cheered and said he should do more of it.

    We know they’re not against terrorism per so. Just Muslim terrorism. They cheer when an abortion clinic is bombed or an abortion doctor is assassinated.

    We know they’re not pro-life. They love the death penalty; it’s due process and first giving people trials that irritates them.

    So why should we be surprised that they want to imprison or kill women who suffer miscarriages?

  7. 7

    @ 4

    Two issues come immediately to mind.

    A: You’re seven feet tall.
    B: Nobody else can see you.

  10. 10

    @5 I almost forgot, conservatives want the governhment to have access to our library records, too, so the government knows what we’re reading — but only when they run the government.

  11. 11

    I could have sworn I saw a link to an article this morning where Texas had passed a law prohibiting gay people from co-habiting, but I can’t find it now.

    Can you imagine the questions the police would have to ask to determine if it were a gay couple cohabiting, or just a couple of roommates? I can’t see this passing a U.S. court challange – the right to privacy would be violated.

  12. 12

    I also saw links to articles about how the population of cities were increasing. I thought the Conservative mantra was that people were fleeing the cities for the suburbs? And if the population of Seattle continues to increase and that of “red” counties continue to see population decreases, then what does that mean in terms of Republican abilities to mount another state-wide electoral challenge?

  13. 13

    From 12,

    The Republicans won’t win any state-wide offices in this state for the foreseeable future. This is a very liberal (blue) state, and Republicans have very little chance of winning any state-wide positions. That’s just the way it is here, and there is nothing the Republicans can do about it.

  14. 14

    13) There is the Secretary of State, but the only reason they won that, was the endorsement of the predecessor.

  15. 15

    Heh..

    The Bush Tax Cut Failure…

    Mr. Hubbard predicted that it would create 300,000 additional jobs in 2002 and add half a percentage point to the real gross domestic product growth rate.

    There is no evidence that the tax cut had any such effect. The unemployment rate remained above 5.7 percent all year, rising to 5.9 percent in November and 6 percent in December. The real G.D.P. growth rate fell each quarter of 2002, and by the fourth quarter growth was at a standstill. Hence the need for yet another big tax cut…

    It is hard to find even a reputable conservative economist willing to say anything good these days about President Bush’s tax and economic policies. In 2009, the Harvard economist Dale Jorgenson said he saw no redeeming features in them…

    Even Mr. Hubbard now seems unwilling to defend the tax cuts he shepherded into law. Earlier this year, he was asked by The New York Times what he thought about the repeal of many of the Bush-era tax cuts on Jan. 1. He said many of those tax cuts were no longer relevant to our tax and economic problems.

    Now this guy Bartlett is a conservative, not a klownservative like the krackpots in the klownservative kongress..

    and their trained seal, our favorite klownservative jerk of these threads..

  16. 16

    @ 15

    SpuddlyPud isn’t a trained seal. He’s that nasty little pomeranian that nobody except for his mommy can handle without being bitten. He’s that vicious little dog that attacks anyone that comes into his yard, and then runs behind the sofa. The only thing such animals are good for is kicking around in the street.

  22. 22

    Meanwhile in other news, Lois Lerner who lied to Congress is now on administrative leave.

    Lerner was placed on paid administrative leave after she refused to resign, Senator Charles Grassley, an Iowa Republican, said in a statement. The IRS named an acting replacement to oversee tax-exempt groups.

  23. 23

    I heard that Glenn Beck has exclusive photos of Lois Lerner and George Soros at a secret lovenest on the outskirts of BENGHAZZZIII!!! just before the attack there.

  24. 24

    Meanwhile in other news

    Attorney General Eric Holder signed off on a controversial search warrant that identified Fox News reporter James Rosen as a “possible co-conspirator” in violations of the Espionage Act and authorized seizure of his private emails, a law enforcement official told NBC News on Thursday.

    PuddyCommentary… The problem of unintended consequnces… Even libtard reporters are taking Obummer and Holder to task on this one! BTW this is standard Obummer sadministration BULLSHITTIUM

    A Justice Department spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Department of Justice later issued a statement about the review of media guidelines: “This review is consistent with Attorney General Holder’s long-standing belief that freedom of the press is essential to our democracy,” it said. “At the same time, the attorney general believes that leaks of classified information damage our national security and must be investigated using appropriate law enforcement tools. We remain steadfast in our commitment to following all laws and regulations intended to safeguard national security as well as the First Amendment interests of the press in reporting the news and the public in receiving it.”

    More PuddyCommentary… Then why did Holder sign off on it when they knew who the leaker was in the State Department? Cockroaches scatter when the light of day appears!

  25. 25

    In other news… Alan Dershowitz, libtard Harvard Professor agrees with Darrell Issa… Lois Lerner lost her 5th Amendment Rights when she read her long statement…

  26. 26

    In other news… Why does it seem every Obummer sadministration libtard caught in a scandal gets promoted… Job well done!

    Specifically, Nuland asked that references to al Qaeda and previous CIA warnings about threats posed to U.S. diplomats in Libya be scrubbed from the document that was used by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice on news talk shows to explain the administration’s understanding of events in Libya.

    Her own emails proved this! BTW Nuland is one of 13 people that Congressman Issa plans to call in a House Oversight hearing on Benghazi next week. Nuland will definitely be one of the “star witnesses”. She gonna have to explain why she never talked to Greg Hicks! Will she take da Fifth?

  27. 27

    Alan Dershowitz is a useful idiot – a media attention whore and torture advocate.

    Here’s CNN quoting a conservative jurist…

    “The only true ways to “lose” one’s rights under the Fifth Amendment are, one, for a court to find that the claimant does not have a reasonable fear of prosecution, because nothing she says could in fact become a helpful link to a prosecution, or two, to get an order of immunity that guarantees that nothing she says will in fact be used to prosecute her,” said Miguel A. Estrada, a conservative attorney who helps head the law firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher’s appellate and constitutional group and who was once nominated by President George W. Bush to the U.S. Court of Appeals. “The first is unlikely here, and no one is offering to do the second.”

    puddybigot is an idiot.

  28. 28

    @26
    BENGHAAAAZZZZZZZIIIIIII!!11!!1!!!!!!

    Oh, puddybigot, give it a rest….you’re sounding more pathetic and desperate and delusional than usual.

  29. 29

    Cockroaches scatter when the light of day appears!

    There you go appropriating one of my lines again!

    Mimicry is the highest form of praise.

  30. 30

    Here’s a nice rundown (from Kos this morning) of conservative inconsistency on the government snooping on journalists.

    Essentially, when the Administration was Bush, and the target was the New York Times, then Fox and the rest of the right-wing echo chamber were calling for summary firing squads.

    Now…not so much.

    It has become quite clear, that if you want Republicans to clamor for doing the right thing, the ONLY way to get them to do that is to have a Democrat doing something shady.

    We Democrats should do a little ju-jitsu and start calling for the elimination of the safety net, and further crumbling of our infrastructure, and draconian laws limiting all sorts of person freedoms….it’d be the ONLY way to get the Republicans on board to do the RIGHT thing.

    The Republican approach to governance…it’s called having no principles other than lust for power and the destruction of anyone who opposes you.

  31. 31

    Here’s some more from the CNN article on Lois Lerner invoking the 5th…

    Former Enron CEO Kenneth Lay, former lobbyist Jack Abramoff, retired Lt. Col. Oliver North, baseball player Mark McGwire and White House party crashers Tareq and Michaele Salahi all invoked Fifth Amendment privilege before Congress due to concerns that anything they may have said could have been used against them in court.

    And, like Lerner, many of them offered some type of statement before or after taking The Fifth.

    Does anyone remember Darryl Issa getting all huffy about Ken Lay or Jack Abramoff?

    No, me neither.

  32. 32

    Wow…the cockroach seems to have disappeared….likely busy driving his rental Ford Taurus around Topeka looking for some Wendy’s to take back to the motel he’s staying in.

  33. 33

    Mimicry is the highest form of praise.

    Cockroaches? Puddy been discussing cockroaches since 2007 SCHMUCKO. Ask the serial plagiarizing unemployed salt licking moron ylb for a replay!

    Butt keep that swelled head! It’s the only thing swelled on your body besides your ASS!

  34. 34

    Here’s a nice rundown (from Kos this morning)

    That statement explains the mind of SCHMUCKO!

  35. 35

    Weasel words from libtards

    But even in front of Congress, experts say, a witness doesn’t necessarily lose Fifth Amendment protections by speaking first.

    And poor poor SCHMUCKO… A previous search of Alan Dershowitz has him in high esteem on this blog. Seems SCHMUCKO only attacks peeps when they are not on his reservation!

  36. 36

    @35
    Thank you for contradicting your prior quote of Dershowitz.

    Also, please provide links to me praising Dershowitz – I’d be startled to read them, because I’ve found Dershowitz, particularly when talking about torture and other abuses of Muslims by Israel, to be a complete tool.

    Ultimately, Dershowitz, and your quoting him, are irrelevant – reference after reference is available contradicting him regarding the loss of one’s 5th Amendment right. There’s a reason it’s called a ‘right’.

  37. 37

    Thank you for contradicting your prior quote of Dershowitz.

    Where SCHMUCKO? It was from the CNN article. There is a disagreement on Lerner. SO? U R a real jackASS SCHMUCKO! Can’t have a disagreement because SCHMUCKO must always be right! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Also, please provide links to me praising Dershowitz

    Where did Puddy claim SCHMUCKO wrote about Dershowitz? Puddy suggests you ask the serial plagiarizing unemployed salt licking moron ylb for a replay! Wait for it…

    Ultimately, Dershowitz, and your quoting him, are irrelevant

    Only to you SCHMUCKO… as it really sux to be you!

    Man, you are as loony as ever, just like SCHMUCKO’s claim Puddy was disagreeing with the Mother Jones article on suburban poverty voters for Obummer! Stoooooooooooopid!

  38. 38

    Now we see the real voter suppression was done by Obummer and the IRS in to 2012 erection. Don’t approve Tea Party groups, they don’t rally the base and therefore they don’t vote for Romney in 2012. All this ginned DUMMOCRAPT voter suppression was covering their planned Tea Party voter suppression.

    Well done DUMMOCRAPTS… Wait until 2014. People remember!

  39. 39

    Imagine if Bush claimed Alberto Gonzalez didn’t know about F&F, IRS Scandal, or the AP Scandal. Bush didn’t know about the rewrites in the Benghazi Scandal or the rejection of additional security, and he learned about these things from the news just as early as the public did… would the libtard press give Bush a pass as they slobberingly do with Obummer? Apparently Obummer threw out The Buck Stops Here sign from the Oval Orifice!

  40. 40

    Remember when Atty Gen’l Eric F&F Holder was asked this…?

    In regard to potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material; this is not something I’ve ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be wise policy.

    Yet… Holder approved the James Rosen warrant… And now we see this… SCHMUCKO’s head has to be hurting with all these facts swirling about…

  41. 41

    Getting really smelly in Obummer’s IRS… Oh wait the buck doesn’t stop there in the oval orifice…

    A series of letters suggests that senior IRS official Lois Lerner was directly involved in the agency’s targeting of conservative groups as recently as April 2012, more than nine months after she first learned of the activity.

    Lerner, the director of the IRS exempt organizations office in Washington, D.C., signed cover letters to 15 conservative organizations currently represented by the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) between in March and April of 2012. The letters, such as this one sent to the Ohio Liberty Council on March 16, 2012, informed the groups applying for tax-exempt status that the IRS was “unable to make a final determination on your exempt status without additional information,” and included a list of detailed questions of the kind that a Treasury inspector general’s audit found to be inappropriate. Some of the groups to which Lerner sent letters are still awaiting approval.

    PuddyCommentary… Oh my… inappropriate questions to the Tea Party? IRS inappropriate question: “Please detail content of your prayers”

    Butt Larry O’Clownell has a different take… maybe that’s why fewer and fewer people are watching PMSNBC lately?

    “Everybody but me. I believe that the IRS agents in this case did nothing wrong. Let me say it again; you won’t hear it anywhere else. The IRS agents did nothing wrong. They were simply trying to enforce the law as the IRS has understood it since 1959.” – Larry O’Donnell PMSNBC

    Sheesh what a moron. Right up there with OWS Fraggy and serial plagiarizing unemployed salt licking moron ylb for example!

    Puddy expects the Purveyor of Friday Night Comics to use this… he’s a 3rd tier libtard loser! A prime candidate for the Friday Night Comics!

  42. 42

    Klownservative @ 40

    Turtleman hasn’t got the memo..

    But during an appearance on NBC’s “Meet The Press,” McConnell declined to attack the administration over the issue.

    “Actually, I do think these national security leaks are very important and it looks to me like this is an investigation that needs to happen because national security leaks, of course, can get our agents overseas killed,” McConnell said.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....02856.html

    Holder’s job is to enforce the law, good or bad.. Now will the turtleman support the media shield law?

    The media shield bill was revived Wednesday at the request of the Obama administration.

    Ooops! I think not! And of neither will the klownservative jerk @ 40.

  43. 43

    “Please detail content of your prayers”

    Please everybody, follow puddybigot’s link to the National Review Online, and then to their link to an example of one of these ‘inappropriate’ letters. Nowhere in that letter will you find the question puddybigot is hyperventilating about. You’ll find a list of questions aimed at determining whether an organization that is asking to be excused from paying taxes legally deserves that privilege.

    Puddybigot, answer me this – if an Islamic charity held organized prayers calling for the establishment of Sharia Law in the USA, would you want that fact taken into account when the IRS determined whether they qualified for tax exemp status?

    Thought so.

  44. 44

    serial plagiarizing unemployed salt licking moron ylb resuing the HuffPo link he posted earlier in the week cuz there is nothing new to use?

    Shield law… let’s clear the air on the “shield law”

    Obama started out as a supporter of a broad-based media shield law. He supported one as a U.S. senator in 2007, and campaigned for president on the idea in 2008. However, once president in 2009, he scaled back journalist protections when it came to national security matters.

    The 2009 Free Flow of Information Act was sponsored by New York Sen. Charles Schumer, and it won approval from the Senate Judiciary Committee in December 2009 on a bipartisan vote of 15-4. However, the Wikileaks revelations emerged soon thereafter and the shield law bill never got a Senate floor vote

    PuddyCommentary: Even Andrew I Really Love Obummer Mitchell said he’s prosecuted more reporters than his predecessors. And Eugene Robinson is not a happy camper and Robinson eats all of Obummer’s shit each day!

    The Obama administration has no business rummaging through journalists’ phone records, perusing their emails and tracking their movements in an attempt to keep them from gathering news. This heavy-handed business isn’t chilling; it’s just plain cold.

    It also may well be unconstitutional.

    In my reading, the First Amendment prohibition against “abridging the freedom … of the press” should rule out secretly obtaining two months’ worth of the personal and professional phone records of Associated Press reporters and editors, including calls to and from the main AP phone number at the House press gallery in the Capitol. Yet, this is what the Justice Department did.

    Since Robinson thinks Obummer could do no wrong until the James Rosen of Fox News scandal broke, now you see he’s pizzed! Why? Because if a DUMMOCRAPT Preznit and Atty Gen’l does it and he doesn’t complain, if a Republican does it in the whitey house he has no leg to argue! So this whole narrative about a shield law is much ado about nuthin! You see when libtards run a “false narrative” of the shield law… this “new proposed law” won’t stop what Obummer and Steadman Holder are doing and will continue to do as scumbag DUMMOCRAPT libtards!

    However, when it comes to national security matters, the wishes of the government take precedence, and the bill would make it extremely difficult for a news organization to quash a subpeona for confidential sources. The government would have to make its case before a judge, which it did not have to do with the AP phone records case. But that judge would be compelled to give “deference” to the government, thereby throwing out the balancing tests required for other matters.

    Basically, the law Obama touted last week in reaction to outrage over the AP phone records case would have done little to prevent to AP phone records case.

    So this shield law being offered in a link by HA’s serial plagiarizing unemployed salt licking moron ylb is just a bunch of semaphores! It won’t do anything. And the “yank” by serial plagiarizing unemployed salt licking moron ylb is out of context to what Mitch McConnell was discussing overall.

    Sux to be the serial plagiarizing unemployed salt licking moron ylb. All day he’s had time to deliver something worthwhile and it’s his standard EPIC FAYLE crap!

  45. 45

    SCHMUCKO, U R a real ASSHOLE! Since you need

    spoon feeding.

    .. Yeah thought so. Ignorant with reading comprehension issues. If DUMMOCRAPTS in Congress agree the IRS asked those questions, why does SCHMUCKO run the other way? Facts… SCHMUCKO can’t accept facts that don’t appear on Daily Kooks pages. Review post #30 for assistance in SCHMUCKO’s love od Daily Kooks. And when their time line has issues SCHMUCKO skips over it!

    It’s a paraphrase U jackASS.

    Their question, specifically asked from the IRS to the Coalition for Life of Iowa: ‘Please detail the content of the members of your organization’s prayers.” Illinois Congressman Aaron Schock questioning the “fired” IRS commissioner Steven Miller

    Since you couldn’t figger out the IRS paraphrase… the rest of your silly and inane rant is I G N O R E D!

  49. 49

    Well well well… The unions chose not to listen because they had to pass to see whats in it. Most unions are worried about the fees, and all the new regulations.

    “It makes an untruth out of what the president said, that if you like your insurance, you could keep it,” said Joe Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union. “That is not going to be true for millions of workers now.”

    PuddyCommentary: If Joe is now realizing the lies of ObummerCare… he should resign the union presidency! The rank and file union peeps voted what their MASTERS told them to do, and their MASTERS DESTROYED their healthcare and even some manufacturing jobs now.

    Also remember what Obummer did to the NLRB? Obummer stacked the deck with his henchmen but recently, two federal court judges said Obummer’s NLRB appointments were unconstitutional.

  50. 50

    A future of despair for klownservative ODS-addled jerks:

    In 2009, the Congressional Budget Office predicted that a medium-level “silver” plan — which covers 70 percent of a beneficiary’s expected health costs — on the California health exchange would cost $5,200 annually. More recently, a report from the consulting firm Milliman predicted it would carry a $450 monthly premium. Yesterday, we got the real numbers. And they’re lower than anyone thought.

    As always, Sarah Kliff has the details. The California exchange will have 13 insurance options, and the heavy competition appears to be driving down prices. The most affordable silver-level plan is charging $276-a-month. The second-most affordable plan is charging $294. And all this is before subsidies. Someone making twice the poverty line, say, will only pay $104-a-month.

    Sparer plans are even cheaper. A young person buying the cheapest “bronze”-level plan will pay $172 — and that, again, is before any subsidies.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....-obamacare

    Klownservatives, see ya! Sure sucks to be ya!

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