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Open Thread 5/16

by Carl Ballard — Thursday, 5/16/13, 8:03 am

– Upon order of the King County Sheriff, Jeremy Griffin was supposed to be out of his home by Tuesday at midnight. Instead, starting late last night, he has played host to members of Standing Against Foreclosure & Eviction, a group that grew out of the Occupy movement.

– In fact, the only known 501(c)(4) applicant to have its status denied happens to be a progressive group: the Maine chapter of Emerge America, which trains Democratic women to run for office. Although the group did no electoral work, and didn’t participate in independent expenditure campaign activity either, its partisan status apparently disqualified it from being categorized as working for the “common good.”

– The mechanics of getting death penalty drugs to states that use them is both fascinating and disgusting (h/t).

– That’s right: “Save the Boobs.” Not the human beings those boobs are attached to—women who, like Jolie, could benefit from potentially life-saving mastectomies—but the boobs that give those women value. Boobies: Save ’em! Ladies: not so much.

– I would hope Pam Roach’s plan to make it easier to recall elected officials would include abusing staff.

– Thurston County dams.

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  1. 1

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 5/16/13 at 10:18 am

    A conservative is someone who believes the poor are “too comfortable.” Meh. What does that make the rich?

    http://inplainsight.nbcnews.co.....table?lite

  2. 2

    Pete spews:

    Thursday, 5/16/13 at 1:55 pm

    Link to “save the boobs” isn’t working.

  3. 3

    Carl spews:

    Thursday, 5/16/13 at 2:28 pm

    @2,

    Thanks. Fixed.

  4. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 5/16/13 at 2:39 pm

    Generally speaking, banks deserve the bad loans they wrote, and borrowers don’t deserve the banks.

  5. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 5/16/13 at 5:00 pm

    Further evidence that American civilization is in decline.

    http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_new.....r-two?lite

  6. 6

    ArtFart spews:

    Thursday, 5/16/13 at 5:27 pm

    A friend of ours belongs to a group not associated with the Komen Foundation that calls itself “Save The Ta-Tas”. They’re all about prevention, and a couple of years ago were working the angle that breast “self” examination can be more fun if a partner is involved. For that they were selling T-shirts with the legend: “Save A Life-Grope Your Wife!”

  7. 7

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Thursday, 5/16/13 at 5:34 pm

    Although I believe that the Spokane Transit Authority has a hybrid bus or two, and LINK Transit in Wenatchee has an electric shuttle bus, but the best green transit project in the Red part of the state that I did not know about, was with Ben Franklin Transit in the Tri-Cities. They bought a remanufactured bus converted to run on all electric propulsion.
    http://www.completecoach.com/c.....-zeps-bus/

    The press release from the manufacturer is from last year, BFT said today on their facebook page, that it had just been delivered.

  8. 8

    Evergreen Libertarian spews:

    Thursday, 5/16/13 at 11:18 pm

    There was an article a couple of weeks ago in the New York Times Sunday magazine about breast cancer that is well worth reading for both males and females.

  9. 9

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 7:24 am

    In fact, the only known 501(c)(4) applicant to have its status denied happens to be a progressive group

    Must be the IRS determined they were NOT a 501(c)(4) group.

    its partisan status apparently disqualified it from being categorized as working for the “common good.”

    Made Puddy’s point perfectly!

  10. 10

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 7:25 am

    @8,

    Mrs Puddy and Puddy knew a guy who died from Breast Cancer! It was very sad and shocking…

  11. 11

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 7:27 am

    In Other News

    John Edwards reactivates law license and he plans to speak at lawyers’ event a year after corruption trial

    unemployed salt licking moron ylb will have his hero back in action to secretly cheer!

  12. 12

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 7:33 am

    NEW YORK (AP) – In one photo, a woman is on all fours, presumably picking something up, her posterior pressed against a glass window. Another photo shows a couple in bathrobes, their feet touching beneath a table. And there is one of a man, in jeans and a T-shirt, lying on his side as he takes a nap.

    And…

    But the residents of a glass-walled luxury residential building across the street had no idea they were being photographed and they never consented to being subjects for the works of art that are now on display – and for sale – in a Manhattan gallery.

    PuddyCommentary: How much you wanna bet this voyeur is a DUMMOCRAPT? Arne was doing things without their permission, similar to what Obummer’s sadministration was identified this week doing.

  13. 13

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 8:25 am

    “You were talking earlier about kind of dismissing the Benghazi issue as one that’s just political and the president recently said it’s a sideshow,” said Woodward. “But if you read through all these e-mails, you see that everyone in the government is saying, ‘Oh, let’s not tell the public that terrorists were involved, people connected to al Qaeda. Let’s not tell the public that there were warnings.’ I hate to show, this is one of the documents with the editing that one of the people in the state department said, ‘Oh, let’s not let these things out.’ And I have to go back 40 years to Watergate when Nixon put out his edited transcripts to the conversations, and he personally went through them and said, ‘Oh, let’s not tell this, let’s not show this.’ I would not dismiss Benghazi. It’s a very serious issue. As people keep saying, four people were killed. You look at the hydraulic pressure that was in the system to not tell the truth, and, you know, we use this term and the government uses this term, talking points. Talking points, as we know, are like legal briefs. They’re an argument on one side. What we need to get rid of talking point and they need to put out statements or papers that are truth documents. Okay, this is all we know.” – Bob Woodward on MSNBC Morning Joe!

    PuddyCommentary… Butt butt butt this is only a Republican/Fox News Talking Points Witch Hunt per SCHMUCKO and his Daily Kooks “truth squad”. Mr Woodward Mr Woodward please don’t say that… you won’t be invited to any more Obummer pressers.

    Now that the cockroaches are identified… they still haven’t released the first 67 hours of emails immediately after the Benghazi attack. CYA time!

  14. 14

    don spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 9:01 am

    Anybody heard about the new Benghazi scandal? The one where the GOP was passing around doctored emails? I’m sure Darrell Issa will be having a hearing about that any day now.

  15. 15

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 9:15 am

    NBC’s Lisa Myers reported this morning that the IRS deliberately chose not to reveal that it had wrongly targeted conservative groups until after the 2012 presidential election:

    Direct from PMSNBC… They put on real news when the rabid libtards are at work… so one won’t see this at night during PMSNBC’s slime time or in HA’s Friday Night Comics!

  16. 16

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 9:19 am

    And the playing field gets richer…

    ong before the Internal Revenue Service revealed it had improperly targeted conservative 501(c)(4) groups, a group of Democratic senators led by New York Sen. Chuck Schumer urged the IRS to do just that.

    The IRS’s admission last Friday that it had singled out tea party and other groups for extra audits and delays has raised concerns that President Barack Obama’s administration quietly attempted to stymy opponents through intimidation. But many prominent Democrats — including Montana Sen. Max Baucus, Americans United for the Separation of Church and State and the New York Times editorial board — had been publicly calling for tighter restrictions on 501(c)(4) groups affiliated with the tea party and conservatives.

    PuddyCommentary… You don’t say? DUMMOCRAPT Sentator scumbags asking for the IRS to exert pressure before the 2012 election. Golly what will happen now for the 2014 election?

    Can you say KABLAMMMMMO DUMMOCRAPTS?

  17. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 10:51 am

    @9 “Must be the IRS determined they were NOT a 501(c)(4) group.”

    Uh, yeah, I do believe that’s the purpose of the reviews.

  18. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 10:54 am

    Putz @ various: Let’s just do the impeachment and get it out of the way, so Obama can get back to work on real issues.

  19. 19

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 12:09 pm

    DUMB Wabbit farts

    Let’s just do the impeachment and get it out of the way, so Obama can get back to work on real issues.

    Naaaah, Puddy sez keep a weak Obummer in office!

  20. 20

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 12:41 pm

    Hmmm only one mention of !!BENGHAAAAAZIIII!!! this morning? I wonder why?

    Wednesday, May 15: After stonewalling, the White House, releases over 100 pages of emails relating to the Benghazi attack, proving the email, as Karl originally reported it, was incorrect. ABC reported that White House national security adviser Ben Rhodes seemed to intervene on behalf of the State Department in a turf battle with the CIA, but the original emails revealed he did not mention the State Department at all.

    Thursday, May 16: CBS’ Major Garrett confirms speculation that it was Republican congressional aides who edited the emails by fabricating the bit about the State Department and other pieces. As Salon reported last week, some lawmakers and aides saw the emails in March and said nothing. But, as Kevin Drum speculates this morning, “riding high after last week’s Benghazi hearings, someone got the bright idea of leaking two isolated tidbits and mischaracterizing them in an effort to make the State Department look bad.”

    http://www.salon.com/2013/05/1.....i_problem/

    Ooooooops!! And what does our favorite idiot say?

    the lamestream is waking up, ABC and CBS…

  21. 21

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 12:42 pm

    Amtrak and Siemens USA recently unveiled the ACS-64, an electric locomotive built for the Northeast Corridor, capable of nearly 9000hp. A graphic on the company’s Facebook page, showed the states where subcontractors are. Washington is one of them, but final assembly is outside California’s capital city. Hopefully they got it right this time, as they are replacing two locomotive models, one that worked out great(purchased in the late seventies), and a newer model that never worked out. The new locomotives are based on existing designs in Europe.

  22. 22

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 12:51 pm

    Here’s more Benghazi unemployed salt licking moron ylb… Direct from CBS!

    “We’re portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots,” said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. “It’s actually closer to us being idiots.”

    PuddyCommentary… You don’t say? So nine days after three great men, State Department whistleblowers, embarrassed the White House, Obummer’s sadministration pineads are beginning to admit that they botched Benghazi before, during, and afterward! Yeah baby!

    The emergency response: “I wish we’d sent FEST”

    Sux to be a DUMMOCRAPT!

    Puddy busy with other things useless tool!

  23. 23

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 12:55 pm

    And there is more unemployed salt licking moron ylb…

    “With U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens reported missing shortly after the Benghazi attacks began, Washington officials were operating under a possible hostage scenario at the outset,” Attkisson’s report reads. “Yet deployment of the counterterrorism experts on the FEST was ruled out from the start.”

    I N C O M P E T E N C E! Like your useless posts each day unemployed salt licking moron ylb. Butt you do try and EPICALLY FAYLE!

  24. 24

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 12:57 pm

    Oh no… more Pinocchio’s for Eric Holder…

    Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.): “In the AP [Associated Press] case you have appointed Ronald Machen, and I’m sure he is a fine U.S. attorney, but can he be considered to be independent when in fact when this Congress held you in contempt he was the individual who refused, on your orders, to prosecute the case? If he will obey your orders in not living up to a contempt of Congress, can we believe that he is in fact independent?”

    Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.: “I did not order Mr. Machen not to do anything with regard to — I won’t characterize it — the contempt finding from this Congress. He made the determination about what he was going to do on his own.”

  25. 25

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 12:59 pm

    Will this make the Friday Night Comics… doubt it…

  26. 26

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 1:06 pm

    San Diego seems to be going forward with the next San Diego Trolley extension. It looks like the most expensive one yet for San Diego, but it is not only inflation that made the original one so cheap. A tropical storm damaging a railroad, and the original trolley line was single tracked, and double tracked later. I have seen some of their long range plans, pretty impressive for what I thought was the biggest conservative area in California.(My guess was due to the military bases around the city) Plus, if just a few of what has been proposed get built, Kings fans will be employed, San Diego has bought all their Light Rail Vehicles from Siemens, and with the adaptable design they offer, could even be used on the Balboa Park streetcar.

    http://www.progressiverailroad.....8211;36216

  27. 27

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 1:07 pm

    I N C O M P E T E N C E!

    Of a brain-damaged idiot I call Puddystupid lauding big media outfits taking “truth” from right wing doctored materials..

    Yawwwwn…

  28. 28

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 1:10 pm

    Puddy busy with other things

    LOL! Yeah right! Busy from 7:24am to 12:59pm

  29. 29

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 1:10 pm

    Pat Robertson says cheating is “in a man’s DNA.” He oughta know. But research shows 23% of women and 19% of men cheat. CNN commentators’ take on this: “He’s an idiot.” “This is a guy who says gay people are icky?” “It’s so romantic when a man treats you like a prostitute, isn’t it?”

    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/.....n.cnn.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Pat Robertson isn’t a moral example for anybody, so who cares what he says? He’s simply Ted Nugent or Mel Gibson multiplied by 10.

  30. 30

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 1:20 pm

    29) Wouldn’t put it past Pat Robertson to make a comment like that.

  31. 31

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 1:21 pm

    “Busy” month:

    1504 % b cs -t puddymoron -s 201305 -c
    +——-+
    | count |
    +——-+
    | 129 |
    +——-+
    1 row in set

    1505 % b cs -t ylb -s 201305 -c
    +——-+
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    | 40 |
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    1 row in set

  32. 32

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 1:46 pm

    KABLAMMO!

    “This confirms that the IRS can do anything they want, anytime they want, to anyone they want. “

    PuddyCommentary… And Obummer and his sad gang recognized how they could use this fear and power against Tea Party Patriot groups!

  33. 33

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 1:50 pm

    Sigh,

    the unemployed salt licking moron ylb… so easily manipulated to perform Puddy’s commands! 129 comments in May… A slow month so far. Puddy been busy, butthead, AKA the unemployed salt licking moron ylb. Was off the grid for four days at special location. Much fun and paid very well.

    Sux to be the unemployed salt licking moron ylb. A stay at home mom!

  34. 34

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 1:54 pm

    At the first Congressional hearing into the I.R.S. scandal, J. Russell George, the Treasury inspector general for tax administration, told members of the House Ways and Means Committee that he informed the Treasury’s general counsel of his audit on June 4, and Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin “shortly thereafter.”

    Oh my 2012. Blows apart that Obummer 2013 narrative!

  35. 35

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 1:56 pm

    He called the group’s centralization of applications from groups with names that included the words “Tea Party” or “patriots” simply “foolish mistakes” that “were made by people trying to be more efficient in their workload selection.”

    And

    “We’re portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots,” said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. “It’s actually closer to us being idiots.”

    So the new narrative thought of this week is we’re idiots. Selecting the “correct information” as needed. Well they are libtards so maybe it’s true.

  36. 36

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 2:02 pm

    LOL!! So busy indeed!

    Like 70 percent of Saturday nights when he has HA circulating in his empty skull..

    Busier than Liberal Scientist?

    % b cs -t ls -s 201305 -c
    +——-+
    | count |
    +——-+
    | 112 |
    +——-+
    1 row in set

  37. 37

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 2:05 pm

    said one Obama administration official

    Does this guy have a name? Was JOKIII “undercover” again?

    LOL! Such a gullible moron.

  38. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 2:18 pm

    Horse Laugh Of The Day

    Banks are refusing to do business with customers in the porn industry for “moral reasons” and because they perceive a “reputational risk.”

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100746445

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Listen, guys, these people only make porn. You should pray that some of their reputation rubs off on you. Don’t even think about holding a popularity contest between banks and porn. You don’t want to go there. Whinny! Neigh!

  39. 39

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 2:21 pm

    38) So now the banks care about their reputations. By the way, do the banks practice usury?

  40. 40

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 2:22 pm

    ROTFLRHMBBAO… Poor unemployed salt licking moron ylb, no one cares about your “study”. As Rush said about Obummer… Puddy lives “rent free” in your Neanderthal Cranial Orifice!

  41. 41

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 2:25 pm

    no one cares about your “study”.

    LOL!! That’s not what the hits on the blog post say..

    And exactly why you read it. Been kind of scarce on Sat nights lately have you?

    Good.. You’re behaving as you should.

  42. 42

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 2:30 pm

    Holy questioning Batman… a real set up.

    Under questioning from Republican Rep. Devin Nunes, Miller said it was a “prepared Q and A,” and the question, which came from tax lawyer Celia Roady had been discussed in advance as well.

  43. 43

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 2:33 pm

    And exactly why you read it. Been kind of scarce on Sat nights lately have you?

    Ummm nope you dope… Puddy hasn’t gone there and you know it. Why? Puddy wrote it. Puddy lives “rent free” in your Neanderthal Cranial Orifice! The kids are out of the house you moron. Mrs Puddy and Puddy use Saturday nights as date night. Yeah it takes money for date nights poor unemployed salt licking moron ylb. Remember you choose to be unemployed! And since I am on the road Sundays and even some Saturday nights… This blog isn’t getting much Puddy face time!

  44. 44

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 2:34 pm

    You’re behaving as you should.

    EXCUSE Puddy? You are the Pavlov’s doggie… poor unemployed salt licking moron ylb did Puddy’s bidding a little slow but it appeared in #31.

    ROTFLRHMBBAO!

  45. 45

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 3:04 pm

    In Texas, a judge has ruled a Tea Party group a PAC, not the non-profit that it claims to be.

    http://www.chron.com/news/hous.....442532.php

  46. 46

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 3:04 pm

    Mrs Puddy and Puddy use Saturday nights as date night.

    LOL!! O yeah???

    4/27 1 comment
    4/13 7 comments (really “needed” ha then)
    4/6 3 comments

    and 3/30?? 12 comments!

    What “dates”! Too “dayum” funny indeed..

  47. 47

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 3:13 pm

    adjusted the program to look at snapshots..

    5/4 3 comments after 10:00pm

    Wow. What a date night that must have been.

  48. 48

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 3:18 pm

    Krist Novoselic has a good opinion piece on how to fix Congress. While I generally agree on his proposals for Fair Representation, I would prefer that states be able to choose the alternative to winner take all that works best for them. The German Mixed-Member Proportional system would work good for large delegations, and I have seen it used in legislative bodies with as few as 25 seats. What Fairvote has proposed, is a variation of the Single Transferable Vote system used in Ireland. It works in districts ranging from 2-7seats, although in the Australian Senate, if it’s a double dissolution, each state becomes a 12seat district. What San Francisco uses for city elections is the single-seat variant.

    http://www.salon.com/2013/05/1.....struction/

  49. 49

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 3:21 pm

    @48 The GOP’s idea of “fair representation” is gerrymandering and voter suppresson.

  50. 50

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 3:24 pm

    One state is leading California and Texas on renewable energy. It’s Washington! Although that is partly due to our Hydro resources offsetting their gains in Wind and Solar.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/.....state.html

  51. 51

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 3:26 pm

    @39 Yeah, they do it by bankrolling payday lenders, so they don’t have to dirty their own hands.

    http://npa-us.org/news/la-time.....ays/091410

  52. 52

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 3:37 pm

    49) That’s true. Although it’s still possible to game the system even in a Fair Representation system. An alternative to MMP, Mixed Member Majoritarian, has the votet given two votes, but the party vote only counts for the proportional seats. No surprise that the conservatives in New Zealand preferred it as a compromise alternative to MMP in 2011.

    In Australia, because in the Federal Elections, they require the voter to rank all candidates, the parties have taken to issuing How to Vote cards, and in Senate races, the Australian Election Commission has made it easy with the Above the line voting and Group Voting tickets. One state, Tasmania, for elections to the lower house if the state parliament, they found a counter. The voter only has to rank as many candidates as seats, no above the line voting, and they randomly rotate the order on the ballot.

  53. 53

    manoftruth spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 3:45 pm

    fuck you roger rabiitberg

  54. 54

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 4:18 pm

    In Canada, they are accusing the Mayor of Toronto of being their version of Marion Berry. He is already facing removal of office on conflict of interest charges from a vote he made as a city councilman. Now they might be able to throw using crack cocaine, if a new video being shopped around to Canadian Media outlets is to be believed. Since it is the dealers themselves selling the video, it may not be reliable.
    http://www.thestar.com/news/ci.....andal.html

  55. 55

    Rogue Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 5:17 pm

    @53 I thought Canadians were better behaved than Americans.

  56. 56

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 5:32 pm

    It’s so good to know Puddy lives “rent free” in the unemployed salt licking moron ylb’s Neanderthal Cranial Orifice! Sometimes dates are Netflix movies you dumbASS!

    Remember you choose to be unemployed! Sux to be you!

  57. 57

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 6:08 pm

    54)Every once in awhile they surprise us. The riots following the Cannucks losing the Stanley Cup are one example. The news about Mayor Ford in Toronto, is the latest scandal involving him. He was one of 5mayors in major cities of Canada to be accused of corruption. The other’s were in Halifax, Montreal, Laval, and London.

  58. 58

    Rogue Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 6:22 pm

    I’m posted this comment on SP and I’m cross-posting it here in case it gets deleted over there. It’s in response to a post by Adam Faber arguing that Public Lands Commissioner’s Peter Goldmark appeal of a superior court order in favor of Okanogan PUD was a waste of taxpayer money. Adam’s post contains a direct link to the Court of Appeals opinion, so I consider it unnecessary to include that link here.

    Adam’s comment suffers from the usual flaws found when non-lawyers attempt to translate court opinions into layman’s language. “Not persuasive” is not the same thing as frivolous, and the use of this language by judges in a decision in no way implies that the lawsuit is without merit. In fact, nowhere in this opinion does the Court of Appeals say DNR’s legal challenge was meritless. The case did raise several issues of statutory interpretation that the court addressed at length. It would not have done so had the judges thought these issues did not merit the full discussion they gave to them. Moreover, the key legal concept involved in this case — what constitutes a “dedication to a public use” — is a rather esoteric one which the court went to some lengths to define and describe. The fact DNR lost on appeal does not mean DNR shouldn’t have exhausted all legal avenues of trying to protect the public interests it sought to protect in this case. It’s easy to say, from hindsight, that the losing party shouldn’t have appealed ipso facto because the party lost. But that’s true of all cases, and if you’re going to go around saying the party who loses a lawsuit shouldn’t have brought the lawsuit, then there should never be any lawsuits filed and we have no need for courts. The whole point of the appeal, Adam, was to have an appellate court resolve this dispute. Resolving disputes is what courts do. It’s why we have them.

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: I see this all the time. Court decisions are full of legal terms of art that lay readers take as vernacular, and therefore misinterpret. In addition, you have to know something about the structure and protocols of appellate opinions in order to follow the reasoning. Reading appellate opinions isn’t as much fun as it was in the old common law days because everything is governed by statutes now, so cases are merely exercises in statutory interpretation. Consequently, modern appellate opinions are all afflicted by a gray sameness. In this case, two discrete public entities vied to put state-owned lands to different public uses. The court had to decide which agency/use was given precedence by our legislature. The answer resides in half a dozen bits and pieces of statutory language that had to be harmonized with each other. Figuring it out is not a simple matter, as shown by the fact this same question has been presented to our appellate courts more than once over the years. And it’s just plain wrong to criticize Commissioner Goldmark for taking this question to an appellate court, because these cases are entirely fact-dependent, and it wouldn’t have taken all that much of a change in the case facts to produce a different outcome — a point that is always lost upon non-lawyer pontificators like Adam Faber. For what it’s worth, Goldy rarely (if ever) makes these rookie mistakes; for a non-lawyer, Goldy does a damn good job of explaining what a court did and why it did it. I’ve told him more than once that he has what it takes to be a lawyer, had he chosen to go to law school.

  59. 59

    Rogue Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 6:25 pm

    @53 Why thank you! Coming from you, that’s a compliment.

  60. 60

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 6:30 pm

    Hmmm, there’s a typo in my screen name. I wonder if I’ve been hacked? Anyway, the posts by “Rogue Rabbit” are from Roger Rabbit, if you were wondering.

  61. 61

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 6:41 pm

    A federal judge has blocked Alabama’s anti-abortion law, which seeks to ignore SCOTUS binding precedent about when a fetus is “viable.”

  62. 62

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 7:02 pm

    61)The legislature wanted this challenge, to see if they can change it.

  63. 63

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 7:15 pm

    @63 They must have bought the “Romney will win by a landslide” thesis. Obama’s re-election throws a monkey wrench into their dreams of an anti-Roe v. Wade SCOTUS majority.

  64. 64

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 9:14 pm

    In Connecticut, a NY MTA Metro-North commuter train operating on it’s New Haven line derailed, carrying 300 passengers out of Grand Central Terminal derailed. It was then hit by a Grand Central Terminal bound train, carrying 400 passengers.So far, 60injuries, but no reports of fatalities.

    http://new.mta.info/mta-statem.....eport-conn

    From what I saw on tv, looked like one, maybe both, were M-8 Electric Multiple Units. The M-8, custom made for the New Haven line, due to the two voltages, and two methods of current collection, as the New Haven line enters the NEC at New Rochelle, NY.
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/.....0320130518

  65. 65

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 9:48 pm

    A political scientist’s take on the recent B.C. Election. Very interesting. The Green Party took 8% of the vote. Some in B.C, think that they split the anti-Liberal vote, but others were saying that it was not a slam dunk that the Green vote would have broken for the NDP. Party dynamics in British Columbia are different than down here. The BC Liberals are a center-right coalition, the NDP leans left, and the Greens are centrist with a pro-environment tilt.

    http://fruitsandvotes.com/?p=6937

  66. 66

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 10:11 pm

    SpuddyPuds heroes show their true colors in their own words.

  67. 67

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 10:14 pm

    And again.

    Some real nice folks you worship there.

  68. 68

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 10:35 pm

    Sometimes dates are Netflix movies

    LMAO!!! Really.. How enlightening… Spewing on HA is an essential ingredient of Netflix “date nights”.

    Back to the salt mines goes Puddyfool!

  69. 69

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 10:37 pm

    It’s so good to know we HA liberals live “rent free” in the 8 years running moronic troll Puddyfool’s blasted ruin he calls a head.

  70. 70

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Friday, 5/17/13 at 11:56 pm

    Looks like a GOP Rep is claiming credit for asking for the DoJ investigation that led to the subpoena of the AP phone records.
    http://thinkprogress.org/justi.....?mobile=wp.

    While Gowdy’s admission that Republicans supported a probe into national security leaks like the one that led to the DOJ probe of AP is welcome, his willingness to largely excuse DOJ’s actions does not bode well for reform. When journalists face surveillance by law enforcement, many sources will be too frightened to talk to reporters, and that will lead to the public being less informed. The AP probe presents a strong argument for requiring law enforcement to obtain a warrant from a judge before they can obtain phone records from journalists — indeed, DOJ itself should support such a requirement, because a judicially issued warrant enables them to resist scandal after their investigations become public — but such a reform will almost certainly require an act of Congress.

    By the way, he made the comment on FOX News.

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