– Maybe BP should, instead of buying elections, use the money to make sure they don’t have another Gulf disaster.
– The Seattle City Council wants an amendment to the Constitution to overturn Citizen’s United.
– Happy filing week
– John Stossel is going to do an anti-union hit piece at some point. I guess it’s a scandal that unions operate in buildings.
– DNC, WTF?
– No, Bubba Carpenter. Mississippi has NOT stopped abortion. You have only stopped SAFE abortion.
– Seattle just awarded grants for job training for immigrant and refugee youth and families.
– Seattle’s bike score: not great
Intrade has Walker as 76% likely to win the recall election.
http://www.intrade.com/v4/mark.....tId=759686
Nice job, Dems. You spent tons of money trying to recall a duly elected governor, enabling him to share with the rest of the country that holding public unions accountable saves taxpayer money.
Thanks!
22.8 million.
http://business-news.thestreet.....s/11535957
Guns Don’t Kill People Dep’t
Five people are dead in Florida in another of those extremely rare mass shootings that happen ever day in the good ol’ USA. This one apparently is a murder-suicide involving domestic problems. It appears a mother killed her children and then herself.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_n.....s-say?lite
Roger Rabbit Commentary: It should be obvious that some people shouldn’t have guns. But the GOP’s position is give ’em all guns and then let God sort ’em out after everyone’s dead.
Translation: sharing the same misery as the victims of private/vulture capital.
@ 4
Said misery would include, er, full or nearly full employment of those union members, rather than the layoffs that were otherwise set to occur in the hardest-hit school districts. 12% or so contribution to their own health care premiums.
Oh, the misery! We all should be so fucking lucky.
22.8 million unemployed, underemployed, or too discouraged to look for work so not counted in the unemployment figures. But virtually none of them are Wisconsin public union employees. Virtually none.
And YLB’s boilerplate response? In a nation of 22.8 un- or under-employed, Walker hasn’t created his promised 250,000 jobs in the first 14 months he’s been in office.
Keep running with that, YLB.
YLB, next time you bring up that Walker hasn’t kept his promises, think back to what Biden said in April, 2010 (WaPo):
Biden predicts economy will create up to 500,000 jobs a month soon
By Garance Franke-Ruta and Frank Ahrens
Vice President Biden predicted Friday at a Pennsylvania fundraiser that the U.S. economy would be adding up to 500,000 jobs each month “some time in the next couple of months.”
http://voices.washingtonpost.c.....ll-cr.html
Time’s up, Joe.
That’s a lie Bob. I said 77 or 78 thousand jobs which is about right for 14/15 months.
It’s not even close.
Yeah I guess Mitt’s “ventures” promised “nearly” full employment to boot!
And nothing makes a Fox News viewers day more than their politicians taking bread out of state employees kid’s mouths..
Shit the Bain Capital’s of the world have been doing that to them as long as anyone can remember.
@ 9
Planned layoffs of teachers and other school employees did not occur due to the moves Walker made. So cake may have been taken out of the mouths of some kids, but bread was put into the mouths of others.
Virtually full employment of Wisconsin public union members, YLB. Spin that any way you want. Doesn’t change the fact that in a very challenging economy, no real cuts to the number employed occurred.
Not bad for a first year in office.
@ 7
I was referring to what Walker has said:
http://www.scottwalker.org/issues/jobs
and not to what you might have said.
@ 4
Those victims of private/vulture capital you referred to:
Were they victims of the guys Obama raised $2M from last night?
http://www.businessinsider.com.....ght-2012-5
Or is that a different form of vulture capital because they donate to Obama, YLB?
of parents who are victims of Bain Capital plant closures. For sure that’s true.
Well Obama hasn’t “raised” taxes on the “job creators” or rather let the Bush tax cuts expire.
Those tax cuts worked miracles. Right on through job losses of what 750k a month at the peak??
I guess Mitt wants to double down on that. Follow the Ryan plan maybe??? Who knows we might hit 1.5 million job loss a month at the next recessionary trough.
We’ll see how the UK does.. For sure we can beat them.
@ 12
What about the victims of all of those auto dealership closures forced by the government, YLB?
Tens of thousands of jobs lost.
All so GM and Chrysler could be profitable.
http://www.sigtarp.gov/Audit%2.....9_2010.pdf
Was that a gooooooooddddddddd corporate decision to eliminate jobs, YLB? As opposed to baaaaaddddd corporate decisions to eliminate jobs if the companies aren’t under Obama control?
It’s a really strange election year.
Ron Paul is continuing his campaign for the GOP nomination, but isn’t campaigning.
The GOP in New York as selected a new candidate to unseat the sitting Domocratic assemblywoman. It’s the assemblywoman’s husband (they’ve been seperated). The GOP candidate’s mother said that there’s “no way” he can win, “they (the voters) love her there”, and promised that she’s “going to have a long talk” with her son.
Michele Bachman claims in a new fundraising lettter that she’s “just” been gerrymandered out of her district by “liberal judges” who can’t stand that she’s been “standing up against Obama”. But nothing like that has happened. Her state was re-districted, and a five-judge panel (two were appointed by Democrats, the other three Republcians) drew the lines – back last February. The line DID move her home out of her district, but that doesn’t stop her from running for re-election in the district – which was the whole point of the fundraising appeal.
A N. Carolina representative last week insisted that he had “grave concerns” about Obama’s birth certificate, and if elected would pursue an ongoing investigation over whether Obama is qualified to be President. But this week he denied ever making any such comment.
Mitt Romney (remember him?) is trying to back-peddle on his claims made throughout the primary that his work at Bain Capital created 100,000 new jobs. Now he’s merely saying that it created “thousands” of jobs. Within a few weeks he will admit that with the profits, he created just two jobs – he hired a new gardner and maid for one of his houses. He will continue to have no comment on the thousands of long-term jobs lost in the companies Bain Capital purchased.
If Mitt Romney’s campaign ever needs to cut back on funds, it can just start re-showing Gordon Geko’s speech to shareholders when he was trying to buy their company – “Greed is good”.
@ 15
Where’s the back-pedal?
Just yesterday his spokesperson sent an email mentioning 120,000 jobs.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....-his-exit/
If Romney doesn’t repeat 100,000 each and every time, it’s a backpedal?
Staples, alone, has 70,000+ employees.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines.....10161.html
Good luck with this.
Romney has managed to secure the one endorsement he really, really, didn’t want – from George W. Bush.
Republicans like to pretend that time stopped in Nov. 2000 and renewed in Nov. 2008, so that all problems were caused by Democrats. You will hardly hear a peep from them about the Bush presidency. But far be it from us to let them get away with that one….
14 – Last I looked GM was doing ok Bob. Assembly line workers are building cars.
I guess the government should have followed the Bain playbook. Issued junk bonds, loaded them on the GM balance sheet and used the proceeds to buy mansions with car elevators in La Jolla for select members of the White House staff.
@ 18
You misperceive the reason for that endorsement. It’s consolidation of the GOP base, closing circles around the nominee.
It’s not like there are lots of Democrats who would vote for Romney if it were not for George W. Bush.
Obama doesn’t want Carter’s endorsement, either. But he’s got it:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ti.....27488.html
Who else has endorsed Obama? Jon Corzine.
I’m sorry, did you have a point?
@ 19
I daresay all of us would be doing better if we had our debt obligations stripped away from us, YLB.
If your mortgage were cut by 80% and you remained in your home, making far lower payments, wouldn’t you be doing better?
Of COURSE GM is doing better than it was. But it’s because taxpayers paid for it to happen.
You do understand the difference between a huge handout and making your way in life without one, don’t you?
Don’t you?
Jesus H., YLB. It was only a couple of years ago. A little early to spike the football when the US government paid billions and likely won’t get most of it back.
You said this
I said this:
60 – If there’s something like 77 or 78 thousand net jobs created then Walker’s kept his promise.
Has WI job growth been anything to write home about??? Don’t think so.
@ 22
Still doesn’t make me a liar, does it? I don’t recall reading what you wrote.
WI jobs revised numbers coming up end-of-week. Won’t be 70+K growth, but it will be higher than previously calculated, probably substantially so, which is why Barrett’s already claiming it is dishonest.
He’s promised up to 250,000 jobs in his first four years. He’s got 2 1/2 years left.
And in three weeks, he’ll have won his second state-wide gubernatorial election in just over 18 months.
And Dems spent how much to try to prevent that?
Oh certainly but I bought my house WAY before the big run-up in prices that started around the time Greenspan decided to keep interest rates low to inflate real estate like a balloon.
Look at trend of houses prices before that and then after..
If I had bought after that then I think a mortgage principal cramdown to bring principal in line with trend would have been more than justified.
Greenspan’s decision amounted to a gross distortion of the economy. It needed to be corrected.
@ 7,22
You also said this:
67. YLB spews:
66 – He promised 250,000 jobs over his term..
So I believe the number I cited is about right for this time.
I was wondering where I got 250,000 from. Now I know. I got it from you, YLB.
YLB, regarding @ 7 in which you called me a liar, please be so kind to retract. Appreciated.
Romney’s handlers let it slip that Romney participated in what is apparantly a regular conference call between Romney’s re-election campaing and conservative bloggers.
It’s been pretty apparent to us that the trolls and bloggers are moving in lock-step with their talking points, and more than a little coordination is involved. In fact, the link between Fox News, the Murdoch papers, A.M. Talk Radio, and the bloggers and trolls is pretty consistent, as each parots the “talking point of the day”. Here’s just a big more confirmation.
Oh, and the Republicans had a conniption when the President also participated in a call to his supporters, claiming it was “outragious” that he campaign fore re-election while the country has so many problems, etc.
21 – I guess I was a little unfair to Mitt. He did say just let GM go through the bankruptcy process.
Shop for the right judge and I’m sure the rank and file auto/supply chain worker would have gotten the most optimal screwing possible.
Hell Bob Lutz that global warming denier and champion of Faux News’ favorite car The Volt, he could have led the charge!
Tell Bob the truth:
Republicans can’t tell the difference between a huge taxpayer handout and making their way in life without a government subsidy.
Anti-Socialist Bachamnn got $250,000 in federal farm subsidies for her family farm. The farm itself is worth about $250,000.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/.....idies.html
Republicans are the biggest recipients of farm subsidies
http://blogs.desmoinesregister.....subsidies/
Bob so what is your lying bullshit again about how you lying republicans don’t take handouts and how lying republicans work ands make it “on your own”.
The “number” I’m referring to in that sentence is the 77-78 thousand number that is cited in comment 64 of that thread. It is “about right for this time” – 14/15 months into Walker’s term
Look at the 250,000 number in the previous sentence and I qualify it as being “over” Walker’s term – 4 years..
Pudge at (un)sp would definitely call it a lie.
It certainly looks like you’re cherry picking but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and claim you were a bit hasty and didn’t fully check your facts.
Poor ylbleeder just keeps looking the fool….
How much govt assistance is ylb on anyway?
@26
This is news………. why?
Journolist ring a bell?
Obama did the same thing:
http://crooksandliars.com/john.....rence-call
Right-leaning candidate and right-leaning bloggers meet to discuss common interests at the beginning of a campaign season.
Bombshell disclosure. News at 11.
(edited to remove White House mention)
@ 28
Hi Steve. Sneaky. Had me fooled. You go girl.
Not sure how they’re getting their “bike score,” but generally that looks at how much cycling specific infrastructure a city has. You can have a lovely, bike-able city without much of any cycling specific infrastructure and you can have a city that’s very shitty for biking with a bunch of poorly designed cycling infrastructure, so I wouldn’t read much into that score.
30 – Didn’t you say you were voting for Obama?
You did! You did!
Awwww.. And so am I. I don’t trust R-Money more than I can throw him.
To the Bob’s of this world, how could you even think that???
Bob is a paid troll. He’s trying out talking points to determine which might have more traction or be harder to answer.
Recalling or impeaching a ‘duly elected’ public official based upon the fact that said official is in the pockets of out of state monied interests, lied about their policy intentions while running for public office, and has a demonstrably corrupt administration that needs an out of state funded legal defense fund is well within the rights of the citizens of Wisconsin.
In fact, the Wisconsin Democrats have asked the DNC for 500,000 free speech units to put the knife in Walker’s governorship.
Then it’s on to Romney. I thought only North African dictators needed secret Swiss bank accounts?
But, you know, the real reason for the secrecy is not taxes, but the fact that the Mormon’s require that churchmembers tithe 10% of their gross income to the church, and some say Romney is lying to his own church about his gross income.
Would you vote for a man who lies to his own church to save a few bucks?
You “Forgot to mention” Your crazy poster boy for gun rights: Ted “Big Mouth” Nugent endorses Mittens Romney :))
@32 “Hi Steve. Sneaky. Had me fooled.”
Idiot goatfucker. You’ll damn well know when I’m addressing your sorry fucking ass.
@ 35
That’s self-employed troll to you, bub.
You should look at the history of the recall laws as established in Wisconsin.
You should look at what Dianne Feinstein has written about recalls – she herself was once a target, while mayor of SF.
It’s an abuse of the system. You don’t like the outcome of a fair election so you initiate a recall. Only a matter of time until your ox is gored, too.
Here’s a little memory refresher:
http://articles.latimes.com/20.....s-20120511
re 38: ‘Bub’??? You sound like Fred Mertz trying to be tough.
At the moment, it’s your ox that’s being gored, and our side holding back on not goring your ox because then you will do the same is a non-starter.
All Republicans are deceiptful liars, and your ox is going to be gored countless times before this is over — if it takes 50 years.
So whatever happened to the two Milwaukee County officials appointed by Scott Walker when he was county executive? As I recall, they were charged with embezzling money intended for wounded veterans and their families. An expression of wingnut love for our troops, no doubt. So what’d they do with that money intended for our troops? Wasn’t it spent on lavish Caribbean cruises, wedding expenses and renewing Walker-for-governor websites?
Then there was that other Scott Walker guy, Brian Pierick, charged with two felonies for child enticement. Whatever happened to him, besides making a very, very long list of wingnut pedophiles who’ve been busted in recent years?
…and don’t forget about Romney — the guy who cheats his own church out of their tithe by hiding his income in a secret Swiss account.
That’s even more despicable than cheating on your taxes.
re 41: Bob — you know how fast these rumours go viral. You better start trying to prove that Romney’s innocent of this charge.
Walker will survive the recall and will emerge stronger, likely even able to claim a mandate.
Other states’ governors will see what is possible when the executive pushes back successfully against union thugs.
This will be good for more than just Wisconsin. This will be good for the country.
Looking forward to the Wisconsin election. Call it momentum going into summer.
@ 42
Pass. Remember that war on women accusation?
Look at the CBS/NYT crosstabs. Women prefer Romney over Obama.
How did that war myth work out for you guys?
Lemme clue you in: Your ilk tries to claim that Romney doesn’t pay the full 10%. What turns out is that Romney pays 9.8%, that it amounts to MILLIONS each year, and it gets compared with the $400 Joe Biden probably donated to charity.
And your ilk looks even more feckless as a result.
What’s different this year, is that it’s not McCain you’re running against. This time there’s pushback. Amen.
re 42: Even by denying the rumour, you spread it. You could say that it’s a form of ‘swift-boating’ except Romney evaded military service in the Vietnam era and none of his sons have served in the military either.
Your candidate is a jive turkey.
re 44: “What turns out is that Romney pays 9.8%”
Prove it. You can’t — not with secret bank accounts.
…and, using words like feckless and ilk is just another propaganda trick of using the harsh ‘K’ sound to label your opponent. It doesn’t mean squat in the context of what you are saying, but that’s what feckless people of your ilk do.
@ 45
Go for it. If all you’re left with is a smear job, you smear. It’s who you are. It’s what you are.
After all, it’s not like you can defend your candidate based on his record.
So you smear. We’re not surprised. We might even be prepared for it.
Bob — I’m playing with your head. You are a dope and you don’t realize it.
@ 48
We all know you’re playing with something but it isn’t my head you have in your hand right now. Enjoy your day, and dont’ forget to wipe the keyboard when you’re done.
Pardoned on the merits I’m sure:
http://www.reuters.com/article.....3720120515
I guess Barbour had to balance out the Republican white collar criminals he pardoned somehow. Good thing his candidacy didn’t advance beyond the talking stage.
@34
Ummmmmm…..so?
I’m not voting for obama in the hopes of getting more handouts and free shit like you are. I might vote for him just to keep the status quo for the time being.
Lest you forget, I’m one of the people that pays for the free shit and handouts that you recieve
re 49: “We all know you’re playing with something but it isn’t my head you have in your hand right now. Enjoy your day, and dont’ forget to wipe the keyboard when you’re done.”
I’ll ask your momma to clean the keyboard. I’ll fust slip a handi-wipe in there and let her go to town.
of over 20 million people being out of work like Bob says???
Or raising the national faster than Bush like Puddybud says?
You say he’s “harmless”????
As I thought, you don’t pay attention too well. Too damn funny..
the national “debt”..
51 – Let me make it easier for you..
R-Money supports the Ryan plan..
Which does what?? Well it cuts federal government spending..
62 percent of the cuts come from programs that aid the poor.
In order to… Well cut taxes on the rich down to 25 percent.. Not that the very rich will pay that. I’m sure the Ryan plan finds the 15 percent tax on capital gains too high by far.
Well shit that’s right up your angry, dumbass, mean-spirited alley.
Who you gonna support now Mickey?
Glad to be of service.
re 51: http://newamericangazette.com/.....democrats/
Democrats are richer than Republicans. You are just another dumb Bubba fooling yourself about the fact that you are a hate filled racist.
@6 So if Biden doesn’t keep his promises, that excuses Walker not keeping his promises, too? Good going, Bob, that’s real smart …
@43 It doesn’t matter if Walker survives the recall, if his GOP friends lose even one of the four state senate recalls also on the ballot, because if that happens Walker’s ability to pass legislation is history.
@38 What are you afraid of, Bob? Worried that the same voters who put Walker in might decide they made a mistake?
The Rich Work Harder Dep’t
Here’s a pretty good explanation of how the rich get that way. (P.S., it has nothing to do with working hard.)
http://www.cnbc.com/id/47432428
@36
Mr. Nugent has been convicted on two occasions of violations of game laws. I can remember (and I’m not that old) when one violation of a game law would get you black-listed from the Republican Party for life. Ditto with having a teen-aged daughter that gets knocked up and doesn’t take a “vacation” to europe.
@ 58
I think it’s more likely that Walker’s win will be a larger percentage than his 2010 win.
That’s about as close to a mandate as he gets, if his vote percent and winning margin is higher after a recall than it was when he was first elected.
Check Intrade. Maybe I’m 24% afraid.
I think this chick stopped checking the box about two years too late.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/.....23526.html
Woman of color? In a law review article? And she was caught unaware that this would be a problem?
Funny.
Yes!!! I’d totally sign on as cook. I want to go!
The feds are investigating the $2 billion loss at JP Morgan – Chase. It looks like JPM lost its own money by making bad decisions. If that’s the case, there’s nothing to investigate: failure is part of a free market.
@ 64
I disagree. Yes, it’s their money. But it’s worthwhile to investigate if only to find out why it happened, and try to minimize the chance it happens again.
I read controls existed but were not adhered to. Perhaps that’s the bad decision but still.
If their Tier 1 requirements go up by a smidgen as a result of this, I can live with it. Stupidity should be painful.
@53
No, what’s really funny is that I’m fairly successful, while you aren’t…yet you think you have clue about how shit works, and then have the nutzak to spout off about how educated and clued in you are….lol
Keepthinking those thoughts, then step back for a second and see where you are in life in your mid 40’s…….survey says you fail.
“…investigate if only to find out why…”
I’m OK with that as long as that’s as far as it goes.
66 – I think you’re stupid (and funny in that regard) that given the ugly crap you spew here every day that you’re not totally behind R-Money like you were for Dino Lossi.
But it was only a matter of time before you found out about the Ryan plan and R-Money’s support of it.
And Obama calling the Ryan Plan “Social Darwinism” which is a polite name for your thuggish political views.
Again I was glad to be of service. You now know how to vote what passes for your “mind” in November.
Sanity, at last, from a Dem:
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....76326.html
Shared sacrifice. Make everyone hurt at least a little and there will be greater understanding of what it will take to improve the situation.
But, you can’t demagogue this, can you, Barack? Nope. Gotta vote present until after November, then drop the big one on the dumbasses who re-elected you.
Will all that fit on a bumper sticker? It might if Biden’s name comes off.
re 67:
Do you feel the same way about botched surgeries on your relatives? What if the investigation shows that they lost “their own” money, but covered their losses with someone elses?
People are sacrificing now Bob.. The middle class hasn’t seen an appreciable raise in their standard of living for over 30 years.
However, the one percent has done very, very well. And the top one tenth of the one percent has done off the charts well.
In surveys who comes out as the country with the happiest people? It’s not America by far.
@69 “Sanity, at last, from a Dem”
Horseshit. Again. A lot of people are for letting the Bush tax cuts expire. For some odd reason, you failed to note the problem as explained by your sane Dem.
“We can’t be in a position where one of the negotiating partners says that’s non-negotiable. Not only will we not raise taxes, we want the Bush tax cuts and we want more tax cuts and we want the right to disregard what the Congressional Budget Office says that our budget will do. You can’t do that,” Clinton said. “It’s hard to have a deal if there’s no arbiter.”
If, as you say, Bob, sanity is letting the Bush tax cuts expire, wouldn’t insanity be defined as Republicans blocking this from happening?
I’m for the middle class EVENTUALLY contributing more too Bob.
Let’s see their wages rising first.
@70,
Should there be an investigation of the limited partnership in which I lost $12,000 in back in ’91? Was it possibly illegal for me to have other investments that helped make up that loss? (BTW, the IRS only allow you to write-off $3,000 of capital losses each year against ordinary earned income, so it took me nearly four years to finally recover from a bad financial decision. Is it the government’s role to investigate my decision making? Is it the government’s role to guarantee bad investments?)
In 1987, if a person invested $10,000 in Microsoft and another person invested $10,000 in Worlds of Wonder, the first guy would be a multi-millionaire and the second guy would have lost it all. If the rodent makes money “flipping stocks,” should the government investigate?
Honestly, dork, you have no common sense.
Carlos Fuentes, RIP
http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....-dies.html
@69 Yep!
He’s going after the Republicans here.
“I’m for the middle class EVENTUALLY contributing more too Bob.
Let’s see their wages rising first.”
That’s how I pretty much see it. The rich can afford to poney up now. The rest need to get back on their feet. I’d give tax breaks for actual job creation, but no breaks to our glorified “job creators” just in the hope that they’ll create a fucking job. I’d tax everybody’s income, including the “47%”, if only to shut wingnuts the fuck up. But it would be a progressive income tax with the working poor being taxed very, very little as they have so very little to begin with.
re 69: “Shared sacrifice. Make everyone hurt at least a little and there will be greater understanding of what it will take to improve the situation.”
re 75: Honestly, dork, you have no common sense.
@78
The best way for the wealthy to pay more in taxes is for them to pay more in taxes. The best way for most of the rest of us to pay more in taxes is for our earning to go up.
Since economics is a zero-sum game, for the rest of us to have are earnings go up the handful of folks at the top have to have their earnings go down.
@81 A part of the problem for some time has been the incestuous nature of the boards of directors of public corporations (voting for each other’s raises), the owned “outside” consultants who review CEO pay packages, and an enabling tax code. Addressing these should go a long way towards solving the increasingly gross income disparity in America.
…and, in addition, Bob is a doody-head.
really? you better tell the fed that..
re 84: Maybe you should read a little about game theory before you make such an obviously ignorant statement.
Whether the economy is a zero sum game or not has everything to do with your sides belief in allowing the rich to perform class warfare on you and all of your fellows.
It’s the crux of the argument — and you don’t even know what it is.
…and the Fed already knows that you don’t.
Oh, yeah dorky!!??!!
Max has been playing monopoly and Yahtzee!™ since he was a kid and doesn’t need to fill his head with any silly theories about them.
@84
Actually, I’ve emailed them a couple of times. Never heard back. Fuckers.