I really like Folk Life. It’s free. It’s all sorts of music. I remember going from clog dancing to hip hop shows. It’s fun, and you guys, it’s next weekend. Nothing is really calling me as a must go. But I’m still totally going.
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http://freebeacon.com/issues/f.....ased-diet/
Feds: America Should Adopt ‘Plant-Based’ Diet
We’ve been saying this since 1863. Well better late than never!
Monday Morning Trump Reports
(1) Trump calls climate change a “hoax” in his speeches, but when he wants a seawall permit at his Scottish golf course, he complains the Scottish government is underestimating the amount of erosion that will be caused from sea level rise due to global warming.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/do.....m-effects/
(2) In 2006, Trump claimed on Larry King that he was paid $1 million for a speaking engagement, but admitted in a deposition it was $400,000, and also acknowledged his wealth claims were based on his own subjective guessing.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/el.....suit-2006/
Last week R senile bragged about how Obummer personally sent the latest taliban leader to his 72 virgins by a drone strike. What R senile neglected to tell you is how drone strikes have advanced since 2009 including the targeting technology used to find, acquire, and destroy their intended target.
Yet with all of R senile’s bragging; the old senile fool forgets how he is at odds with The Nation, you know, that past favrit of HA DUMMOCRETIN heads. Puddy wonders how they fell out of grace with them? Kinda like Stenk Yogurt! Maybe telling the truth was too much for Goldy and company! http://www.thenation.com/artic.....ry-drones/
PuddyCommentariat: Seems this last paragraph describes R senile! Being one lacking in real human emotion when it comes to bragging about DUMMOCRETINS on HA DUMMOCRETINS (DUMMOCRETINS can do no wrong), R senile always cheers certain types of violence. R senile has become detached from humanity—and yield violence that is, as it were, unconscious. Hence the cheer leading from the old senile one!
Seems The Nation is still at odds with R senile. In fact FACTS are at 98.76% (four sigma and dropping) odds with R senile. Remember, since R senile’s defective comments are cumulative, as more stupid comments are added, the chance of posting another defective comment goes up, hence the 99.379 value has dropped with the tens of thousands of inane comments from the silly senile wabbit! Y’all forgot Cuyahoga County, the word “IF”, Stafford County, recent forays into economics, guns, wall street, crooked congresspeople, etc. etc. etc. These FACTless errors are cumulative.
Well maybe the Oregon moron or checkmate will come to R senile’s rescue!
Didn’t HA DUMMOCRETINS discuss this LIE? http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....olumn.html
Yes, Puddy remembers reading this… http://www.prisonplanet.com/un.....faced.html
PuddyCommentariat: It was all a BIG FAT LIE. Like most grievances put forth by most HA DUMMOCRETINS on this blog. Think about the embarrassment his parents had to put up with as they issued this statement
You see HA DUMMOCRETINS the parents decidedly taught young Marcus a lesson. After sobering up, the foolish young libtard learned a hard lesson still lost on HA DUMMOCRETIN: The ends don’t justify the means! To Puddy, having worked on projects at Iowa City, young Marcus slimed them and the University of Iowa!
Remember #explainiowa! Kinda reminds Puddy of the screams from Duke faculty over the Duke Lacrosse rape incident #DukeLacrosse that never happened.
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@3 So now you feel sorry for Taliban thugs?
@4 Puddy is so adept at extrapolating (if you see 1 bee, there must be billions of ’em) that we should put him to work in an extrusion plant. He can be one of the forming dies.
@3 So now you feel sorry for Taliban thugs?
Another whack job comment from R senile. Where did Puddy claim that except in the senile sesion loaded mind you possess! The Nation is libtard like you R senile. Every time there is a drone strike that kills someone you run to HA DUMMOCRETINS and brag about it. You are the one they are discussing; not Puddy!
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Extrapolation R senile? Another whack job comment from R senile.
#nutcase fits R senile! FACTS are hard things for you to comprehend!
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@7 Of course you miss my point, which is that Obama has been effective at eliminating our enemies, whereas his Republican predecessor said he didn’t know where Osama bin Laden was and didn’t care. If you want to get a job done, hire a Democrat, because Republican’s aren’t worth beans.
No R senile, Puddy didn’t miss the point. Your point was worthless and ignorant! In FACT, you are a chronological ignoramus. Drone strikes were tougher back then. You see R senile, your memory is shorter that 24 hours now. On the other hand Puddy remembers things like this in the libtard USA Today…http://www.usatoday.com/story/.....y/1895259/
Sux to be senile! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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When I read about the ‘novel legal theory’
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....story.html
behind the prosecution of this guy just before his bench trial began, I knew the prosecutor had her head as far up her ass as Roger Rabbit did up his own when he promoted ‘fleeing felon’ defense in the situation of a guy shot when he was charging directly at a cop.
Officer Charged in Freddie Gray Case, Edward Nero, Not Guilty on All Counts
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyli.....n_20160523
Here’s a ‘novel’ idea: Stick with what makes a bit of sense next time.
Feeling The Bern?http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-.....rs-support
Sanders over the weekend said he was giving his support Canova, who will face Wasserman Schultz in the August Democratic primary for Florida’s 23rd Congressional District. He also said if elected president, he would effectively terminate Wasserman Schultz’s chairmanship of the Democratic National Committee.
The peeps are getting fed up with the Corrupt Clinton Coronation Process (CCCP)!
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-.....charges-in
What will the HA DUMMOCRETIN horde think now?
@ 9
Of course you miss my point, which is that Obama has been effective at eliminating our enemies…
The ones he stuck around to deal with, sure.
The others? Not so much.
From WaPo’s Editorial Page editor, yesterday.
Obama came into office determined to avoid this approach. In Afghanistan, he set a timetable for troop withdrawal, untethered to conditions. In Libya, he bombed the Gaddafi regime out of power but did not stay to help a new government get on its feet. In Iraq, he overrode his civilian and military advisers and declined to keep in the country the 15,000 or 20,000 troops that might have helped preserve the stability the U.S. surge had helped achieve.
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It does not require hindsight to appreciate the recklessness of his decision. True, few foretold just how completely the nation would fall apart, with a vicious caliphate occupying much of the country and a return of frequent bombings in Baghdad. But The Post’s editorial page was not alone in warning at the time that “a complete withdrawal sharply increases the risk that painfully won security gains in Iraq will come undone.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-fatal-fatalism-in-the-middle-east/2016/05/22/962d7e28-1e99-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html
Obama’s been pretty effective in eliminating some of our friends, as well.
Israel, Poland, Czech Republic…
Anatomy of a landslide?
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....-5491.html
The Roger Rabbit legal method, at work in Baltimore:
I think what happened was is the state’s attorney decided she was going to charge someone and worked back from there. I don’t think she got the evidence and worked up to the conclusion that these individuals should be charged. I think she decided that somebody had to be charged.
…
I think she decided that somebody had to be charged. Obviously, it had to be Nero and Miller because they were the first ones [on the scene], they are on camera, they are these white guys taking down this black guy, and I think that is where they went wrong – right from the beginning in charging Officer Miller and Nero, especially Officer Nero and MIller of these charges.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wipIMk26G2U
@ 2
(1) Trump calls climate change a “hoax” in his speeches, but when he wants a seawall permit at his Scottish golf course, he complains the Scottish government is underestimating the amount of erosion that will be caused from sea level rise due to global warming.
Yet another example of a rich, connected liberal exploiting the notion of environmental effects of naturally occurring climate changes for personal gain.
In Virginia, for example, 1,025,452 voters participated in the primaries – three times the number in 2012, according to an Optimus poll. But 90.7% were either regular primaries voters (18.6%) or Republican voters who usually only voted in the general elections (72.1%); 3.6% were young voters or news residents of the state. As such, just 5.7% of voters – 58,450 people – appeared to have migrated from other parties.
http://www.israelnationalnews......0NAmuIrKsp
I don’t recall much HA discussion of primary turnout. Does that 5.7% mean anything going forward?
One of the best comments so far
“I don’t care what restroom you use, I just want you to wash your hands.”
A conservative and a liberal are standing next to each other some place where people like this have the ability to gather without a fight breaking out.
The conservative finishes first and walks away. The liberal calls over his shoulder, “At the Washington Democrat caucus we were instructed to wash our hands after visiting the toilet.”.
Without missing a beat, the conservative replies, “At the Washington Republican caucus we were told not to piss on our hands.”
Feel free to substitute college rivalries, etc., as appropriate for the occasion.
@10 ” Drone strikes were tougher back then.”
Excuses are like assholes. Everybody’s got one. That’s yours.
@11 Of course, the fact a healthy young black man who was arrested without probable cause was dead at the police station doesn’t bother you in the slightest.
But it bothers me, and I don’t give a damn what legal theory the prosecutor gets these cops on, as long as she gets them.
Of course, I’m not holding my breath. These killer cops almost certainly will go free, thanks to the nearly bulletproof immunity legislatures give cops, which explains why some cops have such a casual attitude about murdering their fellow citizens.
The solution is to repeal that immunity and hold cops accountable like everyone else for decisions to use deadly force. That won’t put any cops behind bars whose use of force is justified, but it might get some homicidal cops off the streets.
@21 So now you’re repeating old college jokes 40 years after we all heard them? Must be a slow day in the radiology lab. Get kicked out of Medicare for billing offenses?
@16 Let me guess. You’re hoping the unqualified racist misogynist demagogue wins. Sure you are. That’s your speed.
@17 What do you expect the cop’s defense attorney to say? That his client is guilty?
Bickle is pro-cop, all the time, no matter what the cops did. Until one puts a bullet in Bickle’s ass. Then Bickle will go running to the ACLU like all the other rightwingers do when they want a free lawyer either because they’ve committed a crime or someone has done dirt to them.
@18 Can we assume that because Trump is a “rich liberal” you’re not going to vote for him?
If Trump is a liberal, then so is a large chunk of the GOP’s voter base, which should make things quite interesting going forward.
@21. It’s even funnier than sloppy meant it to be.
Typical conservative mind set. “Everyone is to wash hands as they leave the restroom? Ha! I’m a conservative, those rules do not apply… TO. ME.”
@ 23
Arrest was for carrying an illegal spring-loaded knife. Burden is the prosecutor’s to prove the arrest was illegal and that hasn’t yet happened.
Gray died in a hospital days after the arrest, not at the police station.
If the police enjoy such bulletproof immunity, RR, why are each of these six officers either up for or already subjected to trial? Trial is the accountability.
You’re well on your way to another fleeing felon embarrassment. Please do continue. Perhaps you should hold your breath. You couldn’t make any less sense of the facts if you were hypoxemic than you do now, RR.
@31 “State prosecutor Marilyn Mosby said the death of the 25-year-old black man was a homicide, and his arrest was illegal. … Ms Mosby said that Gray was not carrying an illegal switchblade as reported earlier by police, but a legal pocketknife.”
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32554371
You don’t even make an effort to get the facts straight, Sloppy.
I don’t feel embarrassed. No reason to. On the other hand, Sloppy should feel embarrassed, but doesn’t know how.
One fan mocked the singers, saying, “That’s the best you’ve ever sounded.” Another yelled, “’You sang like a girl,’ which to a gay man is pretty insulting,” Lehman said.
http://www.latimes.com/local/l.....story.html
YLB, you’re not alone out there.
#34. sloppy made another funny, this time mocking gay men. Will sloppy continue his run by making further jokes mocking the appearance of black girls? Cause he really enjoyed those when he last told them.
Bigot.
@ 35
YLB is gay? I thought – for quite awhile – that he was a woman. Apparently I’m not the only one to make that mistake.
Never thought he might be gay.
I’ve been a liberal my entire life. And I’ve criticized the right for it’s ideological rigidity in the face of facts. To put it mildly. But the left can be just as inflexible and even as ridiculous as the right. If what I’ve heard about the Nevada caucus is true, than Bernie Sanders needs to condemn the behavior. The misogyny and threats are intolerable and shameful. This from a group that takes voting as a take-it-or-leave-it proposition and not a privilege and a duty. They let the country and the president down in the last election. Now they act like children. Disgusting.
Recent headline in The Atlantic:
Why Hillary Clinton Still Needs Terry McAuliffe
Virginia will be crucial for Democrats in 2016, and its governor is eager to hand Clinton a blueprint to follow.
Actually, it seems Hillary paved for McAuliffe that yellow brick road:
Shimon ProkupeczVerified account
@ShimonPro
BREAKING: VA Gov. Terry McAuliffe subject of ongoing investigation by FBI & DOJ public integrity unit, sources to CNN
W/@Evanperez
CGI getting some more unwanted publicity.
As part of the probe, the officials said, investigators have scrutinized McAuliffe’s time as a board member of the Clinton Global Initiative, a vehicle of the charitable foundation set up by former President Bill Clinton.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/23/.....index.html
Remember how much fun y’all had with McDonnell and his wife?
Payback, bitch..
“Arrest was for carrying an illegal spring-loaded knife. Burden is the prosecutor’s to prove the arrest was illegal and that hasn’t yet happened.”
According to their own internal investigation, police ran Gray down, tackled him, cuffed him, and then searched his person, whereupon a knife was discovered and cited as the cause for the arrest. Defense counsel has sought to exclude any technical presentation at trial around the issue of whether or not the knife was legal under city code. In all likelihood the knife was legal. Many east coast municipalities have similar codes. They serve as a convenient pretext for arrests that would otherwise be illegal. But more importantly they feed CompStat data and provide officers with a rather easy, trouble free way of recording felony weapons arrests, which lead to promotions.
Here is an example of a very common utility knife that police in a number of east coast cities, including Baltimore, routinely target for felony arrests:
http://www.kleintools.com/site.....5_alt1.jpg
As anyone can see, these are folding utility knives in rather common use by contractors, electricians, technicians, etc. With some dexterity and practice they can be made to perform in a way that meets the definition in these city’s codes.
In cities like New York, workers who use knives like these have learned to keep them concealed, particularly when riding the subway, as NY Transit police look for them in order to boost their arrest numbers and gain promotion. Gray’s knife is said to be of a similar design, albeit with integral blade instead of the disposable blade.
It is worth some note that the events that preceded Mr. Gray’s arrest facially cannot be construed to constitute grounds for detention, even under the very broad discretion granted under Terry. Arresting officers indicate Mr. Gray “made eye contact” and immediately thereupon “departed from the area”. But we remain stuck with the “tough on crime” reasoning of William Rhenquist that any citizen not under arrest and free of suspicion who chooses to exercise their freedom to leave is displaying “the consummate act of evasion”. In Rhenquist’s dubious estimation we become “suspicious” as soon as we choose to act like free citizens with rights.
So under this legal rubric, which remains the status quo in many U.S. cities, citing Terry the police can target any individual they so desire, seize and physically subdue that person, place that person in handcuffs, perform a physically invasive search, and then use whatever they find as a result of that search as justification for both the “Terry stop” and any subsequent arrest. No matter how egregious their conduct, police can very easily meet the standard for “lawful arrest” so long as they insist that they “believed” that the arrest is lawful, and that their belief is broadly reasonable. Even when it clearly is not.
Believers in civil liberties should support efforts to change this legal status quo in police conduct.
@ 40
Gray’s knife is said to be of a similar design, albeit with integral blade instead of the disposable blade.
Which gives lie to the comparison you made in the preceding paragraph to knives carried by laborers in the course of their employment.
The AR-15 is said to be of a similar design to a machine gun, albeit with the requirement to pull the trigger for each individual discharge of a round to occur. Which makes them, er, very significantly different, doesn’t it?
Except for a significant difference, they’re the same. That’s your argument, DR? Reading too many Roger Rabbit spews?
@ 40
Baltimore City Charter & Code
§ 59-22. Switch-blade knives.
(a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife.
(b) Penalties. Any person violating the provisions of this section, shall, upon conviction thereof, be fined not more than $500 or be imprisoned for not more than 1 year, or both, in the discretion of the court.
http://lawofselfdefense.com/st.....de-knives/
See that word “any”? I think that includes switchblade knives with integral blades, DR.
I suppose it’s possible the legality of the knife might not even come up.
Since then, Nero’s defense has argued in written motions that the knife was illegal under city code and formed the basis of the officers’ probable cause to arrest Gray. They also argued at trial this week that Miller alone arrested Gray, not Nero.
Prosecutors have since changed their stance to say that the knife was irrelevant because Miller and Nero had illegally arrested Gray prior to ever finding the knife.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....story.html
It may be that Mosby’s office prosecuting 14 prior alleged criminals for possessing a spring-loaded knife she now claims is legal might have had something to do with it.
Idaho ordered to pay plaintiffs’ legal bills after unconstitutional “ag-gag” law struck down.
http://www.kivitv.com/news/jud.....aw-fallout
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Republicans pontificate about government “waste, fraud, and abuse,” but are always willing to throw away taxpayers’ money on bullshit.
@ 44
Absolutely. When Bill Clinton agreed to pay Paula Jones more than three times the amount paid by Idaho in your link, at least it was his own money. Money the taxpayers had paid to him, but still.
And he knew that there would be more of it – much more, as it turned out – to come.
@11 Of course, the fact a healthy young black man who was arrested without probable cause was dead at the police station doesn’t bother you in the slightest.
Freddie Gray was arrested without probable cause R senile? Those DAYUM city ordinances which are more restrictive than the state one. City Code §59-22! Really? Do tell again Puddy! https://www.quora.com/Did-the-officers-have-probable-cause-to-detain-and-search-Freddie-Gray
Yeah, about that knife Mosbt changed her tune on… Puddy already gave this to you before R senile, http://legalinsurrection.com/2.....ul-arrest/ butt as we all know the mind is the second thing to go!
BYW wasn’t Freedie a convicted felon? Maryland has some laws on that too!
Destroys the BULLSHITTIUM from the Oregon moron above. In fact the moron is so easily DESTROYED by FACTS!
@ 46
…as we all know the mind is the second thing to go!
The first is the integrity of the anal sphincter but Roger Rabbit has plugged that with his head for many, many years.
BTW Baltimore is a DUMMOCRETIN city controlled by DUMMOCRETINS. All you need to know is Elijah Cummings represents Baltimore!
Nuff Said Suckas!
@45 Bill Clinton behaves like a rabbit. That’s why I didn’t vote for him.
@ 49
Changed from “Bill Clinton is a sleazy womanizer. That’s why I didn’t vote for him.”
You had it right before you decided to be a pussy, RR.
@46 Baltimore’s prosecutor decides which knives are illegal in that city. You don’t. End of story.
@41 “Which makes them, er, very significantly different, doesn’t it?”
Not if you get shot by one. Same bullet, same big hole.
Boob, as usual, in your zeal to focus on whatever technicality you think might support you, you’ve entirely missed the point.
None of the arresting officers have x-ray vision, nor are pre-cog adepts. So when they decided to run down Mr. Gray, tackle him to the ground, subdue him, place him in handcuffs, and perform an intrusive full body search the only “cause” they could cite for doing so was that “he made eye contact with them” and he thereupon attempted to leave the area.
I’m not arguing that his “detention” and subsequent arrest were unlawful. As unbelievable as it may seem to an upright person like yourself, police have qualified immunity for “doing their job”, even when they decide that it is “their job” to attack bilious radiologists minding their business and exercising their common civil rights. At the time of his “detention” Mr. Gray was unknown to the arresting officers, and they had made no observations related to any criminal acts or giving rise to suspicions about criminal acts. In other words, it could have been you. The basis for his ride was a knife which, though it might technically be considered falling outside the legal standards in effect in Baltimore, can be found worn every day by tens of thousands of tradesmen, contractors, and technicians throughout the city of Baltimore, and even a few police officers. Seldom do city prosecutors file felony charges over knives like this one. When they do, it is usually to cover up an otherwise bad arrest and also to pad their statistics at the expense of some “lesser” citizen. Quite easily done when opposing counsel is a mail-order public defender who reads the police report for the first time minutes before arraignment. Yes, these knives have “a spring” or can be made to appear as if “they have a spring” and that is all any police officer needs to justify an arrest and confiscate the knife. Their commanders count it as a felony weapons arrest. And they count the confiscated knife as a “deadly felony weapon removed from the streets of their city”.
It’s a game to them.
Even though the knife may have been “spring assisted” anybody other than a disabled board certified radiologist can easily understand that a police officer can’t determine such a thing by “making eye contact”. Knives are legal. People carry knives around in public legally. They may do so for any reason. The Constitution guarantees that they don’t have to give a reason. And the Constitution guarantees that police are not empowered to compel any such reason. A search must be preceded by probable cause. Hunches aren’t allowed. So even if Mr. Gray had been openly carrying his knife in his hand at the time police contacted him, it would not be legal justification for an arrest, or for such a search.
The tactics and procedures employed by these officers in violently detaining, searching, and arresting Freddie Gray may not be criminal. But they put the public and officers at obvious risk (did you happen to notice Mr. Gray died?). And much of the time the result is nothing more than statistics – statistics I’m confident Mosby has employed to benefit her career many, many times.
“He’s a race-baiting, xenophobic religious bigot.”
Who said it and who were they saying it about?
“Bill Clinton is a sleazy womanizer. That’s why I didn’t vote for him.”
Best pay attention, Roger, as that’s coming from a guy who belongs to a party of goatfuckers and child molesters. So he should know sleaze as that’s what he votes every two for in hopes of getting his precious fucking tax cut.
@46 Baltimore’s prosecutor decides which knives are illegal in that city. You don’t. End of story.
Wrong again R senile! Puddy gave you the Baltimore law. Here is the Maryland law… Criminal Code of Maryland, §4-105 http://lawofselfdefense.com/st.....ing-knife/
Sux to be you!
@ 53
Gray wasn’t unknown to the arresting officers.
I’d give this source a bit more credibility in this case because it’s Ebony:
It’s an area where police are constantly patrolling, even deploying bicycle officers to assist with apprehension. Gray was familiar to police because he had been arrested before. A later arrest report would quote officers as saying “Gray looked at us funny.”
Upon this encounter, Gray and his friends went running in different directions, chased by officers on bicycles.
http://www.ebony.com/news-view.....z49Wrd0G00
So, it couldn’t have been me, because the one time I was arrested it wasn’t in my own neighborhood. Plus, after seeing that white dude smashed against a wall and turned into a vegetable after running away from a cop in Seattle a few years ago, I’m smart enough not to run from the police. Or, as you put it above, ‘exercise my freedom to leave’. You probably used that term because running is good exercise, I bet.
In addition, I don’t make it a habit to hang out in known high-crime, high-drug use areas in which the prosecutor has asked the police to be more vigilant. One more thing that separates me from Freddie Gray. Although I do spend some time here so perhaps I should be looked at with suspicion because with some regularity I consort online with the congenitally stupid.
@ 53, 57
More on the significance of the Freddie Gray stop in a high-crime area:
Trial Day #5
This day opened with the prosecution agreeing to stipulate that the area in which Gray was arrested is, in fact, a high-crime area. The high-crime nature of the area is a key factor in establishing reasonable suspicion based on Gray’s flight from police.
Had the prosecution not agreed to this stipulation, the defense was prepared to call as witnesses numerous staff from State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby’s office to testify as to email communications from her office asking for an increased police presence in the neighborhood.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2.....nd-5/#more
So the chase was justified on Terry grounds and the search was justified on reasonable suspicion based on known criminal history of Gray and the requests from Mosby’s own office.
As far as whether charges based on knife possession are commonly to cover for otherwise groundless stops of others, I’m in no position to argue against that possibility, other than to reply that your own willingness to conflate a switchblade with a folding X-acto knife badly damages your own credibility in making such an allegation.
Does a person wearing a Guy Fawkes mask and carrying a crowbar while walking through Capitol Hill on May 1 deserve a pass, rather than suspicion and monitoring, because maybe the poor soul just has a flat tire?
Madame Secretary, your gender card has been declined. Is there another one you can play instead?
Clinton has stopped explicitly mentioning her role in history and joking about being the “youngest woman president.” That’s by design: Those kinds of direct appeals weren’t working with voters.
http://elections.ap.org/conten.....al-attacks
She can’t afford to lose any more male voters. They already know what she is, so it’s a bit redundant to be informed that she’s got one as well.
It’s great the Oregon moron doesn’t have all the FACTS; just those offered by libtard sites!
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Travis,
Seems the vagina is no longer working!
Travis @57,
If the Oregon moron read PuddyPost #46, it would not have made a bigger ASS of itself @53.
Thanks again Dr Obnoxious! You make our job so much easier each day!
Facebook
Has a Whorehouse
In It.
The online giant denied that it’s shown “systematic political bias,” but admitted employees played a bigger role than previously acknowledged in determining what news is highlighted in the trending topics section.
Facebook also acknowledged that rogue employees may have unintentionally discriminated against conservative stories or even acted with malice in “isolated improper actions.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com.....shown-bia/
Or at least a corporate Lois Lerner.
You see HA DUMMOCRETINS, Puddy posted this too… http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....story.html
FACTS, really smack libtard ASSes each day!
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Any day now Roger Rabbit will post on handbill.us some theory that Freddie Gray was actually arrested for running toward the police.
@64,
Nothing new here. In fact the Oregon moron condoned it when Puddy broke the story on HA DUMMOCRETINS May 10th. The moron cheered their bias.
Thanks again Dr Obnoxious! You make our job so much easier each day!
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Wanna read some real BULLSHITTIUM now we know of the conservative bias at Facebook? https://managingbias.fb.com/
Smarter liberals in the US might worry a bit about what just happened in Austria:
Extraordinary: 72% of working-class voters in Austria voted for Hofer, the far-right candidate, and only 5% of them voted for Van der Bellen, the green. This is the real story of the Austrian election: the left in Europe, and the European Union, now have no connection whatsoever with working-class people. The left is celebrating Hofer’s defeat, seemingly unaware that the more profound defeat is theirs. The rupture between the left and the working class in Europe is now complete.
https://www.facebook.com/brendan.oneill.79?fref=nf&pnref=story
Hillary’s dance to the left in order to not lose the BernieBros, combined with the vagina card she’s tried to play for most of the primary season, probably won’t let her keep what’s left of the working class that hasn’t already written off the Democrat Party.
So she’ll rocket to the center as soon as the convention is over. Berniebros will have spent well in excess of $200 million dollars for a front row ticket to abandonment by the Clintons come Fall.
I’ve done well under President Goldman Sachs. I don’t exactly fear a third term.
Amy Goodman was considered but couldn’t pass the smell test.
Sanders names Cornel West, Keith Ellison to DNC platform committee
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballo.....o-platform
A little Freddie Gray arrest history:
March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance…
December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
September 28, 2013: Distribution … second-degree assault, second-degree escape
April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous…, violation of probation
July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute…
http://nation.foxnews.com/2015.....-rap-sheet
Despite a request from Prosecutor Mosby’s office to the Baltimore PD to give this neighborhood increased police presence, and despite an arrest record that would make Freddie Gray a very, very familiar face to the police there, Distant Replay @ 53 would have you believe that officers had no reason for suspicion or action when Freddie Gray made eye contact with them and suddenly
took off runningexercised his freedom to leave the area.Wow, Freddy has more arrests than R senile has working brain cells left.
Wait for it…
56 through 72 Reminds me of two TVs blaring on different channels facing each other.
@ 73
Hey Better, for something new and different why don’t you tell us how much you admire Obama.
Hey worser,
Those two channels are displaying FACTS; something unknown to you!
@57, etc.
Here are your claims, Bob:
-That the arresting officers initiated a Terry stop of Gray because they recognized him.
-That civil liberties differ depending on the local rate of crime, Wardlow notwithstanding.
-The the Constitution doesn’t apply to persons with an arrest record.
-Carrying a type of knife used commonly by tens of thousands of people every day in Baltimore, including police officers, is a crime of such severity it deserves summary execution.
I’m not even going to bother. You are a lying asshole. None of the arresting officers have in any way to date indicated in either their reports or their voluminous testimony that they initiated the chase and violent detention of Mr. Gray because they recognized him. That is specifically missing from the record. You are a fucking liar. You should stop now. But being as it’s all you got, what choice do you have. Unlike you, the police in Baltimore don’t have to rely on lies to prevail here. As long as they can credibly assert that they were “doing their job” as it was given to them, they can kill people as a demonstration of their authority. This is unusual for you. I wonder why this is of such importance to you that you would reach to the point of making shit up about the case. What is it about Mr. Gray’s pointless death that compels you to find justification for it?
Very odd.
And as an addendum, you don’t get to declare whether or not a Terry stop is lawful. That’s up to a court. Folks get paid for bogus Terry stops every fucking day. Even in Seattle. Had Mr. Gray survived his encounter with the police, and were he given access to competent legal counsel, he’d be in line for a fat pay day. As he is dead, there is nothing for any court to consider.
PS: Next spring when Justice Obama is sworn in to the Supreme Court, we’ll see how long Wardlow survives. Fuck Rhenquist.
PPS: I’ll remind everyone of Stevens’ dissent in Wadlow:
“Among some citizens, particularly minorities and those residing in high crime areas, there is also the possibility that the fleeing person is entirely innocent, but, with or without justification, believes that contact with the police can itself be dangerous, apart from any criminal activity associated with the officer’s sudden presence.”
Huh. Turns out Stevens was right. And Gray simply didn’t run fast enough to live.
Carrying a type of knife used commonly by tens of thousands of people every day in Baltimore, including police officers, is a crime of such severity it deserves summary execution.
What BULLSHITTIUM from the Oregon moron! Call a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulamps!
It’s so telling that Puddy put forth the Baltimore and Maryland ordinances and thanks to Dr Obnoxious we are watching the implosion of the Oregon moron this evening.
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Who knows where the Oregon moron is getting its “facts” from. That’s what happens when you read the “raw story” or “the putrid morons” or “daily kooks”. Biased BULLSHITTIUM is all you leftists have and Puddy has the full story above.
Thanks again Dr Obnoxious! That script kitty is wonderful. The Oregon moron is as stooooooooooooopid as evah!
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@ 76
I never said they chased him because they recognized him. I said they chased him because he ran when he saw the police. That’s the basis for a Terry defense of the legality of the stop.
It’s pretty sad, DR, watching you distort statements by others as you similarly distort facts. I thought you were better than that. I certainly thought you would be better at it than you are.
As I prep the siding of my house for painting and reach for my missing X-acto knife, I’ll be sure and ask my wife if she’s seen my DR switchblade laying around anywhere.
@57.
You lied. And now you want to insist that you didn’t.
I guess that’s what you do now.
Still doing it even now. It’s a matter of record Mr. Gray wasn’t carrying a switch blade. It might have been “spring assisted” enough to justify an arrest. But it was never a switch blade. Lacks a switch just for starters. But you know this. So now I suppose you’ll respond by protesting that you never said it was a switch blade. Fuckin pathetic.
Pretty much just makes you a sock puppet of that Fuckwad.
Congratulations.
You and your little buddy’s standards for the truth are almost equal to your standards for professional police conduct.
I guess nobody here really works anymore. Plenty of time to sit around a spew nonsense here on HA. Way to go trolls! Even one, a lazy black guy, who doesn’t carry illegal switch blades. And the other, a Masters of Bullshit closeted radiologist, who failed miserably by not being daddy’s little doctor.
Question – was Freddie Gray blowing his nose that day? If he was then I can understand everything that happened that day, it’s now all coming together.
You know libtards, if the Baltimore superiors didn’t pass down the new strap the prisoner into the paddywagon directive to the rank and file, then what happens to Prosecutor Mosby’s case against the rest of the officers?
Little buddy? Is it true the Oregon moron is reading PuddyMissives after all?
But it was never a switch blade.
The charging papers for Baltimore city… ?did unlawfully carry, possess and sell a knife commonly known as a switch blade knife, with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade within the limits of Baltimore City. ”
No it was a spring loaded blade you moron! The Baltimore law prohibited that. This is why Mosby changed her tune in the middle of the investigation. This was lost on libtards because FACTS explode their little clique of circle jerking.
Little buddy? Is it true the Oregon moron is reading PuddyMissives after all?
But it was never a switch blade.
The charging papers for Baltimore city… ?did unlawfully carry, possess and sell a knife commonly known as a switch blade knife, with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade within the limits of Baltimore City. ”
No it was a spring loaded blade you moron! The Baltimore law prohibited that. This is why Mosby changed her tune in the middle of the investigation. This was lost on libtards because FACTS explode their little clique of circle jerking.
@ 79
It’s a matter of record Mr. Gray wasn’t carrying a switchblade.
Well, since the knife hasn’t yet been shown to the public we might be arguing semantics. How that makes me a liar I am not sure but since you know everything, DR, I am certain that you will teach me.
Baltimore city code might define switch blade thusly:
Baltimore City code says a person can’t carry or possess any knife “with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife.”
A Baltimore police task force, commissioned to investigate Gray’s death, analyzed the knife and determined that it was “spring assisted” and in violation of the city’s law.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....story.html
And,
Court documents say it was a “spring-assisted, one-hand-operated knife.”
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/06/.....ray-knife/
So if we take a leap of faith and assume that CNN and the Baltimore Sun writer and editor are not lying, then dead Fred may very well have been carrying what Baltimore’s code would define as a switch blade knife.
Since the defense had to file a motion to actually see the knife (first link), I suspect that there’s something about that knife that Ms. Mosby really, really didn’t want leaked until, say, after her husband’s run for Baltimore mayor was over.
Or maybe I’m just becoming a bit jaded as I age. But here’s the thing, DR:
In the charging documents
https://www.scribd.com/doc/263671802/Freddie-Gray-Charging-Documents
twice, on the top page, Gray is charged with possession of a switch blade knife. Said knife has not (to my knowledge) been shown to the public. How, then, am I to know that it is not? And how does merely repeating information in the charging documents make me a liar?
Contrary to your contention, DR, the record clearly indicates that Freddie Gray was in possession of a switch blade knife. Until Mosby proves otherwise.
Mosby has yet to prove any portion of her case. There have been two trials.
As you further devolve into irrational thought, keep that one fact in mind, DR – Mosby hasn’t proven a fucking thing.
“devolve into irrational thought”
Good one Travis!
Except irrational thought is called logic by libtards! This is why there are no links from the Oregon moron’s irrational thought processes! Then we’d all know where those “thoughts” came from.
Now you are displaying to the Oregon moron information that Puddy has hidden from the Oregon moron through Dr Obnoxious’ wonderful script. Personally Puddy loves it when the Oregon moron parades around as a LIV know-nothing!
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@85,
You left out the random CAPSLOCK, perseveration, and illeism, but otherwise the spitting image.
@ 87
@85,
You left out the random CAPSLOCK, perseveration, and illeism, but otherwise the spitting image.Bob, I am flustered by the situation, I’m not using rational thought processes, and as none of us in the general public have seen the knife possessed by Freddie Gray at the time of his detainment and arrest I am in no position to call you a liar at this time. I will break with usual liberal orthodoxy and apologize to you for accusing you of an intentional falsehood. You have provided substantial support based upon existing court filings and other known information for your description of the knife as a switch blade knife. I plan to use this weekend to take a deep breath and rethink my position before embarrassing myself further in this forum.Fixed that for you.
@53,
“At the time of his “detention” Mr. Gray was unknown to the arresting officers, “
@57,
“Gray wasn’t unknown to the arresting officers.”
you lied. Fuck the knife.
You’re a liar because you intended to assert that the arresting officers “recognized” Mr. Gray as a frequent flier. That’s bullshit. They initiated a pursuit and Terry because he “made eye contact” and “fled”. You’ve attempted to introduce lots of irrelevant information. That makes you dishonest. But what makes you a liar is the introduction of demonstrable falsehood. It has been reported that Mr. Gray has a long arrest record. Based on that it has been assumed in some media reports that “some” police must have been familiar with Mr. Gray. You took one unrelated fact, combined with one unrelated assumption, conflated the two to produce a falsehood, that arresting officers chased Mr. Gray because he was known to them. That is not true. It has never been true. It is not in the record. Nobody needs to take a breath or rethink anything. You do what you do. I do what I do. Your a liar. You intend to be one. And I call liars out.
Shorter DR @ 89:
“Knife? What knife?”
Shorter Fuckwad Jr. @90,
Lie? What lie? Look! He’s got a switch blade!.
The short of it, nothing gets Bob’s blood pumping like black men and boys being killed. And now our racist has got a self-loathing black stooge of a loon who will break into a happy dance with his Master whenever it happens.
@92,
and that makes him lose it, I guess.
I certainly don’t think Mr. Gray deserved to die. But I also don’t doubt that Freddie Gray deserved to be arrested. I just oppose the way the arresting officers went about it. Given the scope of limited immunity granted to LEOs, I think it’s a stretch to bring an indictment like these two. Which is why it really surprises me that idiots like Fuckwad Jr. get so carried away that they feel like they have to double down and make shit up about the arrest. Considering what a strong defense case there was to start, it’s unnecessary. And to lie about the case in the wake of an acquittal really demonstrates some kind of deeply biased motivation. Something about the larger scope of events surrounding this trail really seems to make Fuckwad Jr. angry. And I don’t think the anger is directed at Mr. Gray. I think the larger circumstances, and especially the broad, populist, and nationwide reaction to this entire affair really upsets him. A status quo is being disrupted here. And its a status quo that Fuckwad Jr. feels a strong affinity for. To me that suggests more than racism is motivating his reaction. His comments @57 above insisting that someone like him could never share a fate like Mr. Gray’s is pretty telling. It’s very important to Fuckwad Jr. that he is “smarter” than people like Mr. Gray and that he doesn’t have to spend time in “high crime” areas. More important I suspect is that people who aren’t as “smart” as Fuckwad Jr. who live in “high crime” areas are treated very differently by the police. That’s clearly a big concern to him here. That’s the status quo he’s determined to defend.