Do you think we could get rid of the santorum add with him in the light baby blue suit and pink tie … PLEASE
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Tlazolteotlspews:
Why? He’s a sharp dresser, that one! ;-)
Blogenfreude!
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Jimmyspews:
I think that is a great outfit. I wonder if they make one for men?
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John Barellispews:
Do you think we could get rid of the santorum add with him in the light baby blue suit and pink tie … PLEASE
Hey, I like the picture with the blue leisure suit. Reminds me of an old video game I played years ago. “Leisure Suit Rick” doesn’t have the same ring as “Leisure Suit Larry”, but it will do. I hope he and the other Republicans are very happy in their retirement. Their very long retirement.
News from the Future
Sacramento, CA (2010)
Governor Schwarzenegger was recently sworn in for a third term. After the popular governor was rejected by the California Republican Party for “ideological impurity”, he was recruited as the candidate for the California Libertarian Party.
While Democrats were disappointed that their candidate, former Governor and Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown, failed to recapture the Governor’s mansion, all of the major parties indicated that they would support Governor Schwarzenegger’s efforts to increase school funding while maintaining the current caps on taxes. Analysts have stated that the continued growth of the California economy and the endorsement of several prominent Democrats were major factors in the election.
The Republican candidate for Governor, recently released Republican politician Randy “Duke” Cunningham was unavailable for comment.
– – –
Washington DC (2011)
A minor governmental crisis was averted when the Libertarian party was able to finally decide which of its members would hold the title “House Minority Leader”.
“We Libertarians are a rather disorganized lot” stated Mr. Ventura, the newly elected Representative from Minnesota. “We really don’t have the mechanisms in place to make these elections”.
The sole remaining Republican in the House, Bill Sali of Idaho, held a press conference in which he claimed the title of “Majority of the Majority Leader”, and claimed that the recent elections were fraudulent and a “fabrication of the left wing media.” He also claimed that Michael Savage, currently fighting extradition from Argentina, was the “true President of the United States”.
Representative Sali’s doctors are confident that he will be able to resume his duties as a member of the House of Representatives within “a few weeks, perhaps a month at most”.
“These new medications work wonders” stated Doctor S.R. Sidarth of the Washington DC Home for the Bewildered. “We expect him to be back at work soon.”
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The Socialistspews:
Governor Schwarzenegger was recently sworn in for a third term
I thought this was the first election after the recall election isn’t it? so this would the the start of his first full term I think any ways.
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John Barellispews:
“I thought this was the first election after the recall election isn’t it? so this would the the start of his first full term I think any ways.”
Commentby The Socialist— 11/10/06@ 11:22 am
Yes, you’re right, but you know how that mainstream media always gets things wrong. ;-)
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The Socialistspews:
Does the main stream media get anything right any more
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The Socialistspews:
that is why I don’t have cable because my main interest is the news and the main stream news on cable are just incompetent at best and blatant propagandist at worst.
And there is plenty life with out cable TV I listen to the radio mostly but I can download the latest movies and documentaries and news shows off of usenet for free any ways with all of the commercials edited out . Even the shows off of the sci-fi channel people post up there.
Save your money from cable and just get a descent usenet server like giganews and and that is all you need .
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Michael Cainespews:
Technically, it has been generally accepted that this would be his second term. To my knowledge, there hasn’t been a term limited official that replaced a sitting official mid-term that has not challenged that the interim term wasn’t a first term.
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The Socialistspews:
well yes Technically your right.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
I think all Republicans look better in pink jumpsuits with metal bracelets.
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It’s going to be a looooooong two years for you pigfuckers! Enjoy.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
More bad news for pukes: Stock markets are up today. Looks like Wall Street likes Congress being under new management.
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Daddy Lovespews:
Senator-elect Jon Tester in Montana is so “conservative” that he supports:
– Supporting renewable and alternative energy sources (including biofuels)
– Raising automobile mileage (CAFE standards)
– Pro-choice
– Protecting public lands
– Country of origin labels for food imports
– Affordable health care
– Enforcing immigration laws for immigrants and employers
– gun rights
– A plan to end the war in Iraq
– Increasing the minimum wage
– Repealing the Patriot Act
– Changing Medicare D to allow price negotiation with drug companies
– No to social security privatization
– Pro stem cell research
– Middle class tax reduction
So yesterday for the first time in my life, I clicked on Faux news because I’d heard the stories. Damned if they weren’t true. First words I heard:
“American’s apparently voted for the Democratic Party to represent them. At least that is what some people believe.”
A story (as far as I can figure out, since they weren’t making any sense) on how some of the ‘democratic’ candidates are actually ‘closet republicans’ because they don’t campaign that they want to tear down your house to make more room for the spotted owl while handing condoms to your daughter and forcing your son to go to gay bars
“Fox news polls show that Iraq wasn’t that important in how people voted>”
Like i sead there really is a life with OUT CABLE TV
A good life
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skagitspews:
November 10, 2006
Marines’ Reaction to the News: ‘Who’s Rumsfeld?’
By C. J. CHIVERS
ZAGARIT, Iraq, Nov. 9 — Hashim al-Menti smiled wanly at the marine sergeant beside him on his couch. The sergeant had appeared in the darkness on Wednesday night, knocking on the door of Mr. Menti’s home.
When Mr. Menti answered, a squad of infantrymen swiftly moved in, making him an involuntary host.
Since then marines had been on his roof with rifles, watching roads where insurgents often planted bombs.
Mr. Menti had passed the time watching television. Now he had news. He spoke in broken English. “Rumsfeld is gone,” he told the sergeant, Michael A. McKinnon.
“Democracy,” he added, and made a thumbs-up sign. “Good.”
The marines had been on a continuous foot patrol for several days, hunting for insurgents. They were lost in the hard and isolating rhythms of infantry life.
They knew nothing of the week’s news.
Now they were being told by an Iraqi whose house they occupied that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, one of the principal architects of the policies that had them here, had resigned. “Rumsfeld is gone?” the sergeant asked. “Really?”
Mr. Menti nodded. “This is better for Iraq,” he said. “Iraqi people say thank you.”
The sergeant went upstairs to tell his marines, just as he had informed them the day before that the Republican Party had lost control of the House of Representatives and that Congress was in the midst of sweeping change. Mr. Menti had told them that, too.
“Rumsfeld’s out,” he said to five marines sprawled with rifles on the cold floor.
Lance Cpl. James L. Davis Jr. looked up from his cigarette. “Who’s Rumsfeld?” he asked.
If history is any guide, many of the young men who endure the severest hardships and assume the greatest risks in the war in Iraq will become interested in politics and politicians later, when they are older and look back on their combat tours.
But not yet. Marine infantry units have traditionally been nonpolitical, to the point of stubbornly embracing a peculiar detachment from policy currents at home. It is a pillar of the corps’ martial culture: those with the most at stake are among the least involved in the decisions that send them where they go.
Mr. Rumsfeld may have become one of the war’s most polarizing figures at home. But among these young marines slogging through the war in Anbar Province, he appeared to mean almost nothing. If he was another casualty, they had seen worse.
“Rumsfeld is the secretary of defense,” Sergeant McKinnon said, answering Lance Corporal Davis’s question.
Lance Corporal Davis simply cursed.
It did not sound like anger or disgust. It seemed instead to be an exclamation about the irrelevance of the news. The sergeant might as well have told the squad of yesterday’s weather.
Another marine, Lance Cpl. Patrick S. Maguire, said the decisions that mattered here, inside Company F, Second Battalion, Eighth Marines, were much more important to them than those made in the Pentagon back home.
There are daily, dangerous questions: When to go on patrol, when to come back, which route to take down a road, which weapon to carry, and, at this moment, which watch each marine would stand, crouched up on the roof, in the cold wind, exposed to sniper fire.
His grandfather fought at Iwo Jima, he said, and his father was a marine in Vietnam. This was his second tour in Iraq. “Here’s the deal,” he said. “Someone points a finger at you, and you go.”
“The chain of command?” he added. “You know how high I know? My battalion commander is Lt. Col. DeTreux. That’s how high I know.”
And so between the marines and Mr. Menti and his family, the split reactions to news of Mr. Rumsfeld’s resignation made for surreal scenes.
Mr. Menti, 50, a radiologist by training, spent part of the afternoon trying to impress the meaning of the news on the young sergeant beside him on the couch.
The war policy was soon to change, he said.
“I think in one year you return to America,” he said.
The sergeant sat implacably.
“This is good for you,” Mr. Menti said. “No?”
He spoke of years of fear. Under Saddam Hussein, he said, they were afraid. Now, with the American troops and insurgents fighting in Anbar, they are still afraid. He returned to the news of Mr. Rumsfeld’s resignation.
“People in America are very happy,” he said. “I saw this on TV. And I am very happy. Thank you, American people.”
He pointed at the young marines before him, smoking on his couches, drinking his hot, sweetened tea. “These soldiers, in Iraq, they make freedom?” he asked.
“Yes,” Sergeant McKinnon said.
“What kind of freedom?” he asked.
He had been talking about the living conditions in the province since the night before, when the marines appeared at his door.
There are almost no schools, he said. There is almost no medicine. There is little food, and no electricity except from generators. The list went on. No water. No work. Violence. Abductions. Beheadings. Explosions.
His son-in-law had been kidnapped by insurgents seven months ago, he said, and a note the insurgents left said he was abducted for being friendly with American troops. He has not been seen since.
In Baghdad, he said, Iranian-backed death squads were killing Sunni citizens. The country was falling apart.
“You like freedom?” he asked the sergeant. “This kind? This way?”
“No,” Sergeant McKinnon said.
“I think you and I and many people do not like freedom in this way,” he said. “I believe this. I am sure.”
“It is wrong, the American Army coming here. It is wrong.”
He looked at Sergeant McKinnon, who is younger than many of his 14 children. He was trying to draw him out.
“If American Army came here for three months, four months, O.K.” Mr. Menti said. “But now is four years.”
If there were no American military presence in Iraq, he said, there would be no insurgents. One serves as a magnet for the other.
Mr. Menti spoke to the sergeant as if he were an American diplomat, as if he had some influence over the broad sweeps of American foreign policy. The sergeant remained quiet and polite.
“I don’t think he realizes that we’re trying to make this country safer for him,” he said to Lance Corporal Maguire.
“I think he realizes that we’re trying to make it safe, but that the more we stay here the more people come in and make it worse,” Lance Corporal Maguire replied.
They went upstairs, to pack their gear for the next move, planned for after dark, to another house and another night of looking down on the roads, waiting for an insurgent with a bomb to step within range of a rifle shot.
Sergeant McKinnon spoke of the squad’s isolation. “I only found out yesterday that the Saddam trial was over,” he said. “Another Iraqi told me that.”
He turned to the task of planning for the night’s fire support.
Up on the roof, Lance Corporal Maguire mused about the news. Whatever Mr. Rumsfeld’s resignation might eventually mean, it did not matter here yet, and it would not keep them alive tonight.
Another marine, Lance Cpl. Randall D. Webb, was scanning traffic through his rifle scope, worried that they had been spotted and the insurgents would soon know where they were.
“I think they see us,” he said.
“Man, they all see us,” Lance Corporal Maguire said, and lighted another cigarette.
Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company
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The Socialistspews:
i have been cable free for 4 years now and it feels GREAT!!!!
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JDBspews:
Acording to the Right Wing Talking Heads, Tuesday was a great victory for Conservatism.
With a little luck, if they keep doing the same thing, we can give them a victory in ’08 that rivals their victory in 1964.
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The Socialistspews:
Condoleezza Rice’s anti-Russian stance based on sexual problems
01/11/2006 [article] / Russia / Politics
The US Secretary of State released a coarse anti-Russian statement. This is because she is a single woman who has no children
The statement from the high-ranking US official sounded like a reprimand from a strict babysitter that was teaching its baby to behave. It goes without saying that the largest Eurasian power is not a baby. In addition, the geopolitical system in the world has undergone dramatic changes since the 1990s. The US Secretary of State, however, has seemingly lost the sense of time and reality. Such women are very rough.
I found out what is wrong with all you frutrated married guys
Wedding rings reduce male power and develop impotence
10/10/2005 [article] / Science / Health
The Slavs used to wear wedding rings for not more than four hours a day not to lose the sexual power
A wedding ring, which many men constantly wear on the fourth finger, may initiate a variety of sexual disorders and eventually end up with partial or even complete impotence. A recent research work conducted by Belarussian scientists revealed that widespread beliefs of losing strong virility after many years of wearing the wedding ring on the ring finger are based on certain scientific reasons
Wives should beware of young girls hunting for happily married men
09/29/2005 [article] / Society / Family
Some women may highly appreciate men having families and children and absolutely ignore unmarried men
They think that married men having happy families are respectable and reliable, and single men are light-minded and superficial. This is strange that women reveal such estimates of men at very young age. Experts state this is typical of girls who were brought up by single mothers or by both parents where they had no emotional contact with fathers
Senator-elect Jon Tester in Montana is so “conservative” that he supports:
– Supporting renewable and alternative energy sources (including biofuels)
– Raising automobile mileage (CAFE standards)
– Pro-choice
– Protecting public lands
– Country of origin labels for food imports
– Affordable health care
– Enforcing immigration laws for immigrants and employers
– gun rights
– A plan to end the war in Iraq
– Increasing the minimum wage
– Repealing the Patriot Act
– Changing Medicare D to allow price negotiation with drug companies
– No to social security privatization
– Pro stem cell research
– Middle class tax reduction
Oddly enough, Daddy Love, I can remember when most of those positions would have been conservative. I think a lot of people that consider themselves conservatives will agree with most, if not all of those positions.
It will be nice to see honest conservatives able to come out and speak their minds without being shouted down and called “RINOs” by the neo-cons.
I think we can attribute much of our recent success to the fact that honest conservatives are furious about the direction that the neo-cons have taken the Republicans. They were lied to, used and then simply taken for granted. Folks like Mr. Tester may convince them that they are welcome in the Democratic party.
The reason most of those things seem “liberal” to us now is that the Republican party was highjacked by folks that were so far right that any reasonable position became “liberal”.
Most of those positions sound pretty conservative to me.
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JDBspews:
Hey, The Republicans have finally figured out why they lost the election:
NAPERVILLE, Ill., Nov. 10 /Christian Newswire/ — Americans For Truth President Peter LaBarbera today called on the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) to rescind its “sexual orientation” policy as inconsistent with the GOP’s professed pro-family values, and said pro-“gay” Political Correctness contributed to Sen. George Allen’s narrow loss for re-election in Virginia.
LaBarbera also called on all homosexual staff in both major parties to be open about their lifestyle in the interest of full disclosure to the public and each Member’s constituents.
Allen’s defeat–after failing to strongly embrace Virginia’s successful marriage amendment–led to the GOP’s loss of the Senate. Allen is widely reported to have homosexual staff. Jay Timmons, a senior Allen aide and former director of the NRSC, is among those being targeted for “outing” by homosexual bloggers, as is Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman.
“In recent weeks, homosexual activists have sought to ‘out’ various high-level GOP staffers and leaders as homosexuals, to highlight their hypocrisy in working for a socially conservative party,” LaBarbera said. “Now we in the pro-family movement are calling for full disclosure for a different reason: because homosexual GOP staff and pro-‘gay’ policies in the party are undermining the wholesome values Republicans say they support.”
Yep, its all the homo’s fault. JCH, are you listening?
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menschwenchspews:
DLC versus DNC (or Rahm and Real Dems):
Does anyone know where there’s a list of candidates funded by DLC who lost and candidates *snubbed* by DLC who won? Duckworth is the obvious case of DLC person who lost.
I think it’s important that we work together (though I’m not likely to be as kind as Bill Clinton — if someone refused to shake hands with me, I wouldn’t be out campaigning for him). But I also think it’s important that we know exactly where our leverage is when Bagala and Carville start coming after Dean. We wouldn’t have had anyone ready to run in Foley’s district, or to organize there, if not for the 50 state strategy. AND the strategy works really well if you care about governing as well as winning.
Hmmmm…Lieberman chairs Homeland Security — any possibility that Habeas Corpus will get back in the constitution as long as he’s there? Just thinking.
Back to my spider hole — at least I feel safer peeking out once in a while now.
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John Slyfieldspews:
If every candidate holds their leads in the race for state house:
Democrats 61 (+5)
Republicans 37 (-5)
I have not analyzed the senate, but with only half of that chamber up for re-election, I dont expect the blue wave to be as big.
Jimmy spews:
First… Sorry Will
The Socialist spews:
http://www.socialistalternative.org/
http://www.marxists.org/
http://sp-usa.org/
http://www.cpusa.org/
Dean spews:
third
The Socialist spews:
Do you think we could get rid of the santorum add with him in the light baby blue suit and pink tie … PLEASE
Tlazolteotl spews:
Why? He’s a sharp dresser, that one! ;-)
Blogenfreude!
Jimmy spews:
I think that is a great outfit. I wonder if they make one for men?
John Barelli spews:
Do you think we could get rid of the santorum add with him in the light baby blue suit and pink tie … PLEASE
Hey, I like the picture with the blue leisure suit. Reminds me of an old video game I played years ago. “Leisure Suit Rick” doesn’t have the same ring as “Leisure Suit Larry”, but it will do. I hope he and the other Republicans are very happy in their retirement. Their very long retirement.
News from the Future
Sacramento, CA (2010)
Governor Schwarzenegger was recently sworn in for a third term. After the popular governor was rejected by the California Republican Party for “ideological impurity”, he was recruited as the candidate for the California Libertarian Party.
While Democrats were disappointed that their candidate, former Governor and Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown, failed to recapture the Governor’s mansion, all of the major parties indicated that they would support Governor Schwarzenegger’s efforts to increase school funding while maintaining the current caps on taxes. Analysts have stated that the continued growth of the California economy and the endorsement of several prominent Democrats were major factors in the election.
The Republican candidate for Governor, recently released Republican politician Randy “Duke” Cunningham was unavailable for comment.
– – –
Washington DC (2011)
A minor governmental crisis was averted when the Libertarian party was able to finally decide which of its members would hold the title “House Minority Leader”.
“We Libertarians are a rather disorganized lot” stated Mr. Ventura, the newly elected Representative from Minnesota. “We really don’t have the mechanisms in place to make these elections”.
The sole remaining Republican in the House, Bill Sali of Idaho, held a press conference in which he claimed the title of “Majority of the Majority Leader”, and claimed that the recent elections were fraudulent and a “fabrication of the left wing media.” He also claimed that Michael Savage, currently fighting extradition from Argentina, was the “true President of the United States”.
Representative Sali’s doctors are confident that he will be able to resume his duties as a member of the House of Representatives within “a few weeks, perhaps a month at most”.
“These new medications work wonders” stated Doctor S.R. Sidarth of the Washington DC Home for the Bewildered. “We expect him to be back at work soon.”
The Socialist spews:
Governor Schwarzenegger was recently sworn in for a third term
I thought this was the first election after the recall election isn’t it? so this would the the start of his first full term I think any ways.
John Barelli spews:
“I thought this was the first election after the recall election isn’t it? so this would the the start of his first full term I think any ways.”
Commentby The Socialist— 11/10/06@ 11:22 am
Yes, you’re right, but you know how that mainstream media always gets things wrong. ;-)
The Socialist spews:
Does the main stream media get anything right any more
The Socialist spews:
that is why I don’t have cable because my main interest is the news and the main stream news on cable are just incompetent at best and blatant propagandist at worst.
And there is plenty life with out cable TV I listen to the radio mostly but I can download the latest movies and documentaries and news shows off of usenet for free any ways with all of the commercials edited out . Even the shows off of the sci-fi channel people post up there.
Save your money from cable and just get a descent usenet server like giganews and and that is all you need .
Michael Caine spews:
Technically, it has been generally accepted that this would be his second term. To my knowledge, there hasn’t been a term limited official that replaced a sitting official mid-term that has not challenged that the interim term wasn’t a first term.
The Socialist spews:
well yes Technically your right.
Roger Rabbit spews:
I think all Republicans look better in pink jumpsuits with metal bracelets.
N in Seattle spews:
Roger Rabbit notes:
All in good time, sir, all in good time.
Roger Rabbit spews:
INVESTIGATIONS! SUBPOENAS! PERP WALKS! TRIALS! PINK JUMPSUITS!
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
It’s going to be a looooooong two years for you pigfuckers! Enjoy.
Roger Rabbit spews:
More bad news for pukes: Stock markets are up today. Looks like Wall Street likes Congress being under new management.
Daddy Love spews:
Senator-elect Jon Tester in Montana is so “conservative” that he supports:
– Supporting renewable and alternative energy sources (including biofuels)
– Raising automobile mileage (CAFE standards)
– Pro-choice
– Protecting public lands
– Country of origin labels for food imports
– Affordable health care
– Enforcing immigration laws for immigrants and employers
– gun rights
– A plan to end the war in Iraq
– Increasing the minimum wage
– Repealing the Patriot Act
– Changing Medicare D to allow price negotiation with drug companies
– No to social security privatization
– Pro stem cell research
– Middle class tax reduction
Daddy Love spews:
Dow 12,108.43 +5.13
Nasdaq 2,389.72 +13.71
The Socialist spews:
Roger have you ever checked out Pravda?
http://english.pravda.ru/
David spews:
So yesterday for the first time in my life, I clicked on Faux news because I’d heard the stories. Damned if they weren’t true. First words I heard:
“American’s apparently voted for the Democratic Party to represent them. At least that is what some people believe.”
A story (as far as I can figure out, since they weren’t making any sense) on how some of the ‘democratic’ candidates are actually ‘closet republicans’ because they don’t campaign that they want to tear down your house to make more room for the spotted owl while handing condoms to your daughter and forcing your son to go to gay bars
“Fox news polls show that Iraq wasn’t that important in how people voted>”
poll results:
74% Corruption
72% Terrorism
72% The Economy
67% Iraq
I had to turn the channel, it was too surreal.
The Socialist spews:
Like i sead there really is a life with OUT CABLE TV
A good life
skagit spews:
November 10, 2006
Marines’ Reaction to the News: ‘Who’s Rumsfeld?’
By C. J. CHIVERS
ZAGARIT, Iraq, Nov. 9 — Hashim al-Menti smiled wanly at the marine sergeant beside him on his couch. The sergeant had appeared in the darkness on Wednesday night, knocking on the door of Mr. Menti’s home.
When Mr. Menti answered, a squad of infantrymen swiftly moved in, making him an involuntary host.
Since then marines had been on his roof with rifles, watching roads where insurgents often planted bombs.
Mr. Menti had passed the time watching television. Now he had news. He spoke in broken English. “Rumsfeld is gone,” he told the sergeant, Michael A. McKinnon.
“Democracy,” he added, and made a thumbs-up sign. “Good.”
The marines had been on a continuous foot patrol for several days, hunting for insurgents. They were lost in the hard and isolating rhythms of infantry life.
They knew nothing of the week’s news.
Now they were being told by an Iraqi whose house they occupied that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, one of the principal architects of the policies that had them here, had resigned. “Rumsfeld is gone?” the sergeant asked. “Really?”
Mr. Menti nodded. “This is better for Iraq,” he said. “Iraqi people say thank you.”
The sergeant went upstairs to tell his marines, just as he had informed them the day before that the Republican Party had lost control of the House of Representatives and that Congress was in the midst of sweeping change. Mr. Menti had told them that, too.
“Rumsfeld’s out,” he said to five marines sprawled with rifles on the cold floor.
Lance Cpl. James L. Davis Jr. looked up from his cigarette. “Who’s Rumsfeld?” he asked.
If history is any guide, many of the young men who endure the severest hardships and assume the greatest risks in the war in Iraq will become interested in politics and politicians later, when they are older and look back on their combat tours.
But not yet. Marine infantry units have traditionally been nonpolitical, to the point of stubbornly embracing a peculiar detachment from policy currents at home. It is a pillar of the corps’ martial culture: those with the most at stake are among the least involved in the decisions that send them where they go.
Mr. Rumsfeld may have become one of the war’s most polarizing figures at home. But among these young marines slogging through the war in Anbar Province, he appeared to mean almost nothing. If he was another casualty, they had seen worse.
“Rumsfeld is the secretary of defense,” Sergeant McKinnon said, answering Lance Corporal Davis’s question.
Lance Corporal Davis simply cursed.
It did not sound like anger or disgust. It seemed instead to be an exclamation about the irrelevance of the news. The sergeant might as well have told the squad of yesterday’s weather.
Another marine, Lance Cpl. Patrick S. Maguire, said the decisions that mattered here, inside Company F, Second Battalion, Eighth Marines, were much more important to them than those made in the Pentagon back home.
There are daily, dangerous questions: When to go on patrol, when to come back, which route to take down a road, which weapon to carry, and, at this moment, which watch each marine would stand, crouched up on the roof, in the cold wind, exposed to sniper fire.
His grandfather fought at Iwo Jima, he said, and his father was a marine in Vietnam. This was his second tour in Iraq. “Here’s the deal,” he said. “Someone points a finger at you, and you go.”
“The chain of command?” he added. “You know how high I know? My battalion commander is Lt. Col. DeTreux. That’s how high I know.”
And so between the marines and Mr. Menti and his family, the split reactions to news of Mr. Rumsfeld’s resignation made for surreal scenes.
Mr. Menti, 50, a radiologist by training, spent part of the afternoon trying to impress the meaning of the news on the young sergeant beside him on the couch.
The war policy was soon to change, he said.
“I think in one year you return to America,” he said.
The sergeant sat implacably.
“This is good for you,” Mr. Menti said. “No?”
He spoke of years of fear. Under Saddam Hussein, he said, they were afraid. Now, with the American troops and insurgents fighting in Anbar, they are still afraid. He returned to the news of Mr. Rumsfeld’s resignation.
“People in America are very happy,” he said. “I saw this on TV. And I am very happy. Thank you, American people.”
He pointed at the young marines before him, smoking on his couches, drinking his hot, sweetened tea. “These soldiers, in Iraq, they make freedom?” he asked.
“Yes,” Sergeant McKinnon said.
“What kind of freedom?” he asked.
He had been talking about the living conditions in the province since the night before, when the marines appeared at his door.
There are almost no schools, he said. There is almost no medicine. There is little food, and no electricity except from generators. The list went on. No water. No work. Violence. Abductions. Beheadings. Explosions.
His son-in-law had been kidnapped by insurgents seven months ago, he said, and a note the insurgents left said he was abducted for being friendly with American troops. He has not been seen since.
In Baghdad, he said, Iranian-backed death squads were killing Sunni citizens. The country was falling apart.
“You like freedom?” he asked the sergeant. “This kind? This way?”
“No,” Sergeant McKinnon said.
“I think you and I and many people do not like freedom in this way,” he said. “I believe this. I am sure.”
“It is wrong, the American Army coming here. It is wrong.”
He looked at Sergeant McKinnon, who is younger than many of his 14 children. He was trying to draw him out.
“If American Army came here for three months, four months, O.K.” Mr. Menti said. “But now is four years.”
If there were no American military presence in Iraq, he said, there would be no insurgents. One serves as a magnet for the other.
Mr. Menti spoke to the sergeant as if he were an American diplomat, as if he had some influence over the broad sweeps of American foreign policy. The sergeant remained quiet and polite.
“I don’t think he realizes that we’re trying to make this country safer for him,” he said to Lance Corporal Maguire.
“I think he realizes that we’re trying to make it safe, but that the more we stay here the more people come in and make it worse,” Lance Corporal Maguire replied.
They went upstairs, to pack their gear for the next move, planned for after dark, to another house and another night of looking down on the roads, waiting for an insurgent with a bomb to step within range of a rifle shot.
Sergeant McKinnon spoke of the squad’s isolation. “I only found out yesterday that the Saddam trial was over,” he said. “Another Iraqi told me that.”
He turned to the task of planning for the night’s fire support.
Up on the roof, Lance Corporal Maguire mused about the news. Whatever Mr. Rumsfeld’s resignation might eventually mean, it did not matter here yet, and it would not keep them alive tonight.
Another marine, Lance Cpl. Randall D. Webb, was scanning traffic through his rifle scope, worried that they had been spotted and the insurgents would soon know where they were.
“I think they see us,” he said.
“Man, they all see us,” Lance Corporal Maguire said, and lighted another cigarette.
Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company
The Socialist spews:
i have been cable free for 4 years now and it feels GREAT!!!!
JDB spews:
Acording to the Right Wing Talking Heads, Tuesday was a great victory for Conservatism.
With a little luck, if they keep doing the same thing, we can give them a victory in ’08 that rivals their victory in 1964.
The Socialist spews:
Condoleezza Rice’s anti-Russian stance based on sexual problems
01/11/2006 [article] / Russia / Politics
The US Secretary of State released a coarse anti-Russian statement. This is because she is a single woman who has no children
The statement from the high-ranking US official sounded like a reprimand from a strict babysitter that was teaching its baby to behave. It goes without saying that the largest Eurasian power is not a baby. In addition, the geopolitical system in the world has undergone dramatic changes since the 1990s. The US Secretary of State, however, has seemingly lost the sense of time and reality. Such women are very rough.
http://english.pravda.ru/topic/Condoleezza_Rice-1/
The Socialist spews:
I don’t think they like Mizz Rice in Russa rofl
The Socialist spews:
I found out what is wrong with all you frutrated married guys
Wedding rings reduce male power and develop impotence
10/10/2005 [article] / Science / Health
The Slavs used to wear wedding rings for not more than four hours a day not to lose the sexual power
A wedding ring, which many men constantly wear on the fourth finger, may initiate a variety of sexual disorders and eventually end up with partial or even complete impotence. A recent research work conducted by Belarussian scientists revealed that widespread beliefs of losing strong virility after many years of wearing the wedding ring on the ring finger are based on certain scientific reasons
http://english.pravda.ru/scien.....044-ring-0
The Socialist spews:
Be carfull all you married woman
Wives should beware of young girls hunting for happily married men
09/29/2005 [article] / Society / Family
Some women may highly appreciate men having families and children and absolutely ignore unmarried men
They think that married men having happy families are respectable and reliable, and single men are light-minded and superficial. This is strange that women reveal such estimates of men at very young age. Experts state this is typical of girls who were brought up by single mothers or by both parents where they had no emotional contact with fathers
http://english.pravda.ru/socie.....8983-men-0
David spews:
Hey, found this. Probably old news for everyone, but was real news to me that someone had created an Act Blue Mutual Fund. Good news.
JDB spews:
Sen. Joe Lieberman, who won re-election as an independent, has a message for his Senate colleagues in the next Congress: Call me a Democrat.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI.....topstories
John Barelli spews:
Commentby Daddy Love— 11/10/06@ 1:51 pm
Senator-elect Jon Tester in Montana is so “conservative” that he supports:
– Supporting renewable and alternative energy sources (including biofuels)
– Raising automobile mileage (CAFE standards)
– Pro-choice
– Protecting public lands
– Country of origin labels for food imports
– Affordable health care
– Enforcing immigration laws for immigrants and employers
– gun rights
– A plan to end the war in Iraq
– Increasing the minimum wage
– Repealing the Patriot Act
– Changing Medicare D to allow price negotiation with drug companies
– No to social security privatization
– Pro stem cell research
– Middle class tax reduction
Oddly enough, Daddy Love, I can remember when most of those positions would have been conservative. I think a lot of people that consider themselves conservatives will agree with most, if not all of those positions.
It will be nice to see honest conservatives able to come out and speak their minds without being shouted down and called “RINOs” by the neo-cons.
I think we can attribute much of our recent success to the fact that honest conservatives are furious about the direction that the neo-cons have taken the Republicans. They were lied to, used and then simply taken for granted. Folks like Mr. Tester may convince them that they are welcome in the Democratic party.
The reason most of those things seem “liberal” to us now is that the Republican party was highjacked by folks that were so far right that any reasonable position became “liberal”.
Most of those positions sound pretty conservative to me.
JDB spews:
Hey, The Republicans have finally figured out why they lost the election:
NAPERVILLE, Ill., Nov. 10 /Christian Newswire/ — Americans For Truth President Peter LaBarbera today called on the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) to rescind its “sexual orientation” policy as inconsistent with the GOP’s professed pro-family values, and said pro-“gay” Political Correctness contributed to Sen. George Allen’s narrow loss for re-election in Virginia.
LaBarbera also called on all homosexual staff in both major parties to be open about their lifestyle in the interest of full disclosure to the public and each Member’s constituents.
Allen’s defeat–after failing to strongly embrace Virginia’s successful marriage amendment–led to the GOP’s loss of the Senate. Allen is widely reported to have homosexual staff. Jay Timmons, a senior Allen aide and former director of the NRSC, is among those being targeted for “outing” by homosexual bloggers, as is Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman.
“In recent weeks, homosexual activists have sought to ‘out’ various high-level GOP staffers and leaders as homosexuals, to highlight their hypocrisy in working for a socially conservative party,” LaBarbera said. “Now we in the pro-family movement are calling for full disclosure for a different reason: because homosexual GOP staff and pro-‘gay’ policies in the party are undermining the wholesome values Republicans say they support.”
http://www.christiannewswire.c.....81483.html
Yep, its all the homo’s fault. JCH, are you listening?
menschwench spews:
DLC versus DNC (or Rahm and Real Dems):
Does anyone know where there’s a list of candidates funded by DLC who lost and candidates *snubbed* by DLC who won? Duckworth is the obvious case of DLC person who lost.
I think it’s important that we work together (though I’m not likely to be as kind as Bill Clinton — if someone refused to shake hands with me, I wouldn’t be out campaigning for him). But I also think it’s important that we know exactly where our leverage is when Bagala and Carville start coming after Dean. We wouldn’t have had anyone ready to run in Foley’s district, or to organize there, if not for the 50 state strategy. AND the strategy works really well if you care about governing as well as winning.
Hmmmm…Lieberman chairs Homeland Security — any possibility that Habeas Corpus will get back in the constitution as long as he’s there? Just thinking.
Back to my spider hole — at least I feel safer peeking out once in a while now.
John Slyfield spews:
If every candidate holds their leads in the race for state house:
Democrats 61 (+5)
Republicans 37 (-5)
I have not analyzed the senate, but with only half of that chamber up for re-election, I dont expect the blue wave to be as big.
crb spews:
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crb spews:
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