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New Washington Post poll on a generic house ballot gives Democrats a 52%-38% advantage. Also in August 25% of the country said they were Republican, now its 20%.
I’m not saying Dems should celebrate yet but its a good sign.
“Grasping at straws” Mike Jones quotes the 14th ranked poll which polls adults who do not vote and even illegals!
Here is the #1 Ranked Poll which polls LIKELY VOTERS (which is what matters when you are talking about elections don’t you think Mike??)
Tuesday, October 20, 2009
To my Friends who are ALWAYS RIGHT–
Can you believe how pathetic the Obama Groupies have become…grasping at straws!
And it’s going to get worse.
ACORN is busted for lying again yesterday on a 32-minute tape for what happened in Philly and there are more tapes to come.
Voter lists are being reviewed and contested nationwide trying to vet out all the ACORN fraud.
If you KLOWNS think things look bleak now…you are in for a shock. Today is rosey compared to next June. Obama needs to keep attacking Fox with his HitSquads and talkin’ non-Presidential smack (which excites about 2% of the voters like you KLOWNS)..
The list of 2010 and 2012 Campaign issues is massive. Obama won running on no record and no scrutiny. The American Public is wide awake…especially those unaffiliated with either Party.
Obama has blown it.
Having been GIVEN Trust of the American Public based on a positive HOPE & CHANGE campaign and then watching that guy MUCKRAKING is waaaaay too funny.
Meanwhile, Unemployment is 9.8%.
Underemployment is 17%.
And Obama LIED about the impact of the Porkulous Package. LIED!
He promised 8% Unemployment. PROMISED.
Obama fancies himself a clever wordsmith..like our beloved Goldy (congrats to the Phillies BTW..I think they will beat the Yankees)….but like Goldy often finds out, self-perceived clever is arrogance which ultimately gets it’s just rewards.
Hey Obama said “they’re just words”.
How unPresidential.
Hear, hear! YES on R-71.
Ah, poor little Al Gore and Co. and their false propaganda machine….wwwaaahhhh!!
http://www.comcast.net/article.....mate.Poll/
@2 Cynical, the Index of Leading Economic Indicators is up for the 6th straight month! Is that what you call “failure”?
Before Obama took over the economcy was in a tailspin. Although it’s not exactly zooming upward just yet, Obama has steered it into level flight, and the danger of a fatal crash is past. He saved all the passengers.
Voters should think twice before they let Republicans into the cockpit again.
Some people are referring to the current crop of jobless college grads and young people as the “lost generation.” They will never make up the income they’ve lost during this depression. The job experience they couldn’t get during these lost years will put them at a disadvantage for the rest of their lives. Their lifetime earnings will be less because of all this. And they will never forget it was Republicans who did this to them.
6. Roger Rabbit spews:
Ummm. c’mon Rog, it was done with massive debt aka smoke-and-mirrors. Of course when you borrow away our kids future you are going to have an uptick. Is it sustainable?? You yourself said this market is a bubble.
I call it smoke-and-mirrors SHORT-TERM.
When our kids have to paybakc the massive Porkulous $787 BILLION plus the auto bailout, kash for klunkers, financial bailouts etc….plus this newest boondoggle of a Health Care Bill…will you write the checks for them Rog??
Luckily you won’t be alive to have to answer for this BORROW, SQUANDER Short-term tidbits for politics Obamunism.
It is a phoney number Rog.
We cannot keep borrowing & squandering forever.
The auto sales hit a nosedive after the incentives.
NIce try though.
PS-
You also often refer to your “stock-flipping” implying a lack of positive about the long-term. You read the Economist right? It isn’t sustainable Rog. It just gives us a few more gulps of air and drowns us in debt.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/.....stitution/
Here ya go Cyniklown…Rep. Alan Grayson takes apart one of your “sharp as a tack” Wingnut Congressmen, the stupifyingly idiotic Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA). Gotta give you the warm fuzzies about how competent these assclowns are. Kinda like you!!!
Cynical # 1 according to who, get your head out of the sand and admit the GOP seriously messed up. Or don’t it helps us.
Saying the poll, poll illegals is just GOP BS
And Obama LIED about the impact of the Porkulous Package. LIED!
He promised 8% Unemployment. PROMISED.
So it posted before I got to respond.
The majority of stimulus money will take effect in 2010 and we knew the economy would get worst before it got better. We hoped it wouldn’t get worst than 8% but it did thanks to 8 years of messed of GOP economic policies, actually it goes back to Reagan. How are the American people supposed to trust the GOP after they messed up like they did.
Mike–
Thou protesteth too much.
Do you think the American people are willing to accept an endless list of Obama excuses??
Doesn’t look like it…but keep wasting your breath.
Obama promised Hope & Change…
Instead he is muckraking against those who dare disagree with THE MAN in power.
And BTW–
Many Other Polls do poll ADULTS…not voters or even likely voters. Do illegal aliens have phones Mike?
If the federal government can even screw this up this bad,
The federal government originally promised 120 million doses of swine flu vaccine by now. Only 13 million have come through.
why do you want them in charge of your healthcare?
THIS should make HA Libtardos proud.
Cynical’s recent posts make two things perfectly clear about him: (1) he is a desperate man; and (2) for his own partisan purposes, he plainly desires a worsening of living conditions in this country as long as Democrats are in charge. And, he considers himself a patriot . . .
That is change.
bush never whined about cnn/msnbc being left-wing.
Hell, cnn is now fact-checking saturday night live sketches.
Why can Barack Hussein Obama Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm give face time to ex-Goldman Sucks CEO Jon Corzine while DoD Chief Robert Gates says he can’t get face time? Of course HA Libtardos have no problem with that.
So saving a filthy rich New Jersey governor’s sorry ASS is more important than sending more troops to Afghanistan.
He is an empty suit who doesn’t care for the military.
Proud Leftist,
It isn’t morning in America. $1.42 Trillion additional debt for FY2010. Lots more selling of US debt.
Why do you hate America Proud Leftist?
Goldman Sachs takes $10 Billion in TARP. They pay it back along with another 1.1 Billion interest. They were propped up by the TARP during hard times.
Goldman Sachs has set aside a large amount $16.7 billion for compensation to date.
Funny how a company who gives VERY LARGE to Dummocrapts isn’t hammered by the press or Barack Hussein Obama Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm for these large bonuses to executives? If fact it’s not even brought up.
Scratch my back we’ll scratch your balls. Yep it figgers.
Good thing I’m not holing my breath…
@21 *holding*
Did a cinder block say sumtin?
Two years ago Glenn Beck said we could lose our AAA rating.
Moody is now waving the flag too…
A new CNN poll shows slightly less than half of Americans “agree with President Obama on the issues that matter most.”
Forty-eight percent say they agree with Obama, 51% say they don’t. An April CNN poll showed the opposite, with 57% saying they agreed with the president and 41% saying they don’t.
Puddy @ 19
Even you would have to admit that Obama inherited a colossal mess from Bush, wouldn’t you? We are going to have some difficulties in the next few years given the magnitude of the mess, but we are clearly headed in the right direction. You might have noticed if you were in touch with actual news that Congress is taking up the issue of getting rid of the antitrust exemption the healthcare insurance industry currently enjoys, and that the Obama Administration is moving to limit the compensation of executives of entities which received stimulus funds. These measures will resonate in the heartland, my friend. They are not only politically wise moves, but they reflect wise and just policy and remind us why we vote for Democrats. You have a lot of years of whining in the political wilderness ahead of you, Puddy. Store up your strength.
@26 “Even you would have to admit that Obama inherited a colossal mess from Bush, wouldn’t you?”
No, Puddy would never admit anything of the sort.
27
I know. I was trying to treat him as included within the class of people known as rational, just to see how that would feel. It was tough to type those words without falling out of my chair.
Proud Leftist,
While the economy was dropping when Barack Hussein Obama Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm took over, why is the whitey house trying to push all these “extra” programs NOW?
So Proud do you treat Steve among the irrational goat sex partakers? We on the right do!
Puddy @ 29: “While the economy was dropping . . .”
Dropping? Just dropping? While I recognize that even acknowledging that much was probably hard for you, there is a difference between dropping and totally cratered, which is where we were. I don’t know what you’d consider “extras.” I’m sure that I would not consider whatever you’re referring to as extras. With regard to Steve, he seems to be a most rational fellow, who takes pleasure, as I sometimes do, in goading you guys on the fringe of the rightwing.
Gotta love another Dick Cheney smackdown!
You’ll notice the DNA Ancestry Project on the right. Puddy imagines when ylb arschloch checks his some simian DNA will prominently appear.
Proud Leftist cums back…
If it cratered it would be worse than the Great Depression. Hmmm…? Soup lines, etc.?
Extras – health care which is now admitted to cost lots in 2019!
“So Proud do you treat Steve among the irrational goat sex partakers? We on the right do!”
I figure Puddy as one of those wingnut freaks who wears animal costumes.
I figure that Puddy is into animal costumes like so many other wingnut freaks.
I figure that Puddy’s into pandas.
No Steve,
As always, you are wrong.
@8 “Ummm. c’mon Rog, it was done with massive debt aka smoke-and-mirrors.”
Yup, just like in World War 2, when government deficit spending pulled the country out of the Depression. Hmmm, guess that works. We also know what doesn’t work: Hooverism. I.e., cut spending, balance the budget, let the markets “work.”
@6 “Luckily you won’t be alive to have to answer for this BORROW, SQUANDER”
Luckily, you’re alive to answer for the BORROW AND STEAL of the Bush years. And I’m going to make you and other Republican swine answer for that every day of the rest of your life.
So it took a war to end the Depression. Who knew!
Sorry, Puddy, but as you’re obviously a deranged wingnut who’s deep into moral decadance and degradation, the odds are that you’re into either pandas or goats. I figure it must be pandas.
The whitey house tried to ignore Fox News in the whitey house pool for the pay CZAR interviews today. The other libtardo news orgs know how the American public feels about them. The other news orgs boycotted the briefing if Fox News couldn’t be there. Someone got a backbone in the libtardo MSM.
@13 I guess rising economic indicators for 6 months in a row and a 50% to 80% increase in your stock portfolio over the same 6 months doesn’t mean much to Klown. Lordy, he’s a hard man to please. I heard his favorite goat pleases him greatly, though.
@37 Republican economics and isolationism got us into the Depression and World War 2. Deficit spending and FDR got us out.
Ummm Steve, you have been perpetuating the goat sex act along with Roger Rabbit for a long long time. We who think right know he’s mentally deranged due to heavy smoking, shortness of breath, dizziness, drowsiness, swelling of the throat, etc. dreaming of sex with animals. Butt, we held off on measuring your innate animal sex stupidity. Butt lately your love of animal sex has gotten deeper. So you are who you eat dude. Go for it.
CRAZED WABBIT BULLSHITTIUM ALERT
WWII got us out dumb bunny!
This was covered way before butt your sad memory struck again.
I recall with great affection how Puddy screamed “COMMIES!!!” as Bush appointed his 35 Czars, including the appointment of his “War Czar”, even as both Bush’s wars were failing. Oh, wait, Puddy didn’t say anything of the sort. Sorry. My bad.
Do you libtardos think the pay CZAR operated free of the whitey house with the way all things are controlled by Axelrod and Emanuel? The stories are Barack Hussein Obama Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm knew nothing of this.
Don’t think so!
Steve,
You are one memory deficient libtardo. The people appointed by GW Bush were not whackamole way out in right field individuals like the whackamole way out in left field individuals placed by Barack Hussein Obama Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm and his Ober-Lieutenants Jarrett, Axelrod, and Emanuel.
Try again Steve.
EPIC FAIL!
@42 Say, Puddy, your post reminds me, have we ever spoken of the wingnut prediliction to project their own worst traits onto others? It’s a Psych 101 thing, in case you didn’t know.
“the goat sex act”
Sigh! There it is again. Wingnut projection. Just can’t stop it, can you? So it’s goats for you, huh, Puddy? And here I would have bet that you were into pandas. You did read about that Republican pedophile who wore a panda costume while waiting for his young victim to arrive, didn’t you? After reading about that guy, I have to say, you wingnuts are pretty weird.
Oh, I see. Wingnut Czars are good, Democrat Czars are bad. Thanks for clearing that up, Puddy.
Good Bush Czars, decent God-fearing Americans all,
Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O’Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
Birth control czar (Erik Keroack)
Budget czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
Science Czar (John Marburger)
Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
War Czar (Douglas Lute)
Birth Control Czar? A few tidbits from Wiki,
Fuck yeah, put him in charge!!
I’m surprised that Bush didn’t appoint Neal Horsely as “Farm Animal Czar”.
Elliot Abrams? Democracy Czar?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Too bad the dead in El Salvador can’t laugh with me.
First idiot comment@48:
Can you name someone who is equal to whackedout fool Van Jones?
Can you name someone who is equal to Give Lawyers to Animals and ban all hunting Cass Sunstein?
Can you name someone who is equal to compulsory abortionist John Holdren?
Can you name someone who is equal to I love Mao Ron Bloom?
Can you name someone who is equal to Big Time Socialist Carol Browner?
Can you name someone who is equal to Health Company Board Member Nancy-Ann DeParle?
Can you name someone who is equal to I’ll trade campaign contributions for project approval Adolfo Carrion Jr?
Don’t think so Steve……
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Steve@47,
It’s goats with you Roger Dumb Bunny, ekim, rujax, ylb arschloch, proud leftist, artfart, daddy love and anyone else embroiled in the Golden Goat award.
ButtPutty @46 spews
So John Bolton was a centerist?
Snort! Snort! RTFL! ButtPutty told a funny!
“Don’t think so Steve……”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!
You’re such a fool!
Wingnut good, Progressive bad.
Your simplistic and insipid left-right paradigm is a real hoot, Puddy!
“It’s goats”
I’m sure. Were you dumbed down too, Puddy? With only a 120 IQ, you can’t afford to be dumbed down too much, you know.
Ah, ButtPutty is hinting he wants this weeks Golden Goat award. By sheer volume of his postings I think he is in the running.
Puddy @ 55
Are you hoping for another Golden Goat? Let me advise you that lobbying for the award does not generally work.
Steve @57,
Correction, ButtPutty has a 120 IQ on the Republican IQ scale. On that scale Birthers and Tea Baggers score in the 150s.
Sarah Palin scores 200 for her “I can see Russia from my kitchen window.”
Hey Steve…The crapto religion fascists like the Puddydummy, his dopppelganger Cynical and the cabana boy marvin have all that weird religious cult-like sexual repression shit and a complete and total inability to deal with the world on anything other than a paranoic fear based basis. That seems to be what makes them turn to say…goats. I have much sympathy….for the goats. The others, not so much.
So what IS it with the “whitey house”, Black Guy?
NEWS FLASH FROM WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!
Prezidint Obama just banned the term “illegal alien” immediately from the American vocabulary. Heretofore, citizens are ordered to refer to this class of people as “UNDOCUMENTED DEMOCRATS”. Violators face a Penalty of a $500 fine or 1 night in the Chicken Coop with the La Familia aka the Cinderblock Brothers.
NEWS FLASH FROM NOBEL PEACE PRIZE COMMITTEE:
In Conjunction with President Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize will be an addendum on his plaque that reads:
NOBEL PEACE PRIZE—
JUST LIKE WELFARE AND SOCIALIZED MEDICINE, YOU DON’T HAVE TO WORK OR DO A DAMN THING TO GET IT!
@62 “I have much sympathy….for the goats.”
Indeed. As word gets out, more and more Americans are starting to stand up and demand an end to wingnut abuse of our nation’s goats.
http://buttons.cafepress.com/i...../209341556
@63,
ButtPutty is just trying to impress us with his 120 IQ by using such big words.
Proud Leftist,
Where is Puddy lobbying for the Golden Goat? Ekim and Steve are positing this not Puddy. Ekim cuz he likes hershey highway action and Steve, well it looks like Steve has relapsed with his patented Steve’s Stupid Solution.
Good bye!
Hey, Mr. Klynical’s here. Got anymore racist jokes to tell? That last one’s getting a bit stale with the retelling.
Ekim,
Using wikipedia huh? Well look at who edited Jon Bolton…
Nuff SAID Sucka!
OMG Steve…now THAT is a great catch.
BTW…submissions are still being accepted for the “P-Bonics” Dictionary. Drop ’em here or visit the blog.
rujax has sympathy for the goats every time he uses one for his pleasure. He knows the goat won’t feel much since it isn’t too big!
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@72 “sympathy for the goats every time he uses one for his pleasure. He knows the goat won’t feel much since it isn’t too big”
Sigh! Of course, there are those times when wingnut projection reveals more than we really care to know about these freaks.
Notice even in the HuffPo the peeps chosen by the preznit-erect were short on gravitas.
heh- The Bush Domestic Policy Czar, Karl Rove, had the gravitas thing going for him.
Negroponte as “Intelligence Czar”?
Isn’t that an oxymoron?
Steve@78, still waiting for the Merry Fitzmas.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Checked the mail today. There was a ‘No on 71’ flyer – can’t say mailer because there was no address on it. Nice picture of the Nelson family on the front and completely full of lies.
Got me wondering though – there’s no postage mark on the flyer; isn’t it illegal to use mailboxes without mailing the item? Did they bother to ask David Nelson if they could use the photo? Or did they do the normal conservative “if we want to use it, it’s ours” anti-free market nonsense?
@31: hahahaPuddy is a laugh a minute
Wow, Puddy is even dumber thatn I thought possible…..a Dick Cheney smackdown?
dick Cheney – the liar who outed a CIA agent?
Dick Cheney – the architect of the unnecessary war in Iraq?
Dick cheney – the most hated potician in America?
Dick Cheney – the fool who made a mess of Afghanistan, and is now trying desperately to rehabilitate his sorry ass?
As if an idiot and fool like cheney (a proven failure) – can smack down anyone after the total mess he left?
Only in the dream world of what is left of Puddy biased little cerebral cortex.
poor Puddy – so right-brained that the right side of his body is unable to move….
Goldy, what did I say that was so wrong, that anyone else here is not adhering to? You are selling out.
God hate Heterosexuals, even Goldy.
Good thing you don’t have a life off this blog.
Read what Charles Krauthammer said about Obama last Monday. I think you will agree with at least most of it. I agree with pretty much all of it–
I think the MAJORITY of it will be about the Economy…but Obama’s progress in the Middle East will also be scrutinized. If Americans are still dying and Afghanistan is a mess, there will be a penalty to pay for Obama delays in deploying more troops for some not overwhelmed by the economy.
Krauthammer is a mindlesss knee-jerk neo-klown.
Reading your investment comments wwith rabbit, you actually sound like a decent man sometimes.
You have to be smart enough NOT to swallow the bullshit from commentators whose agenda has clearly failed. There is a new direction and it’ss going to take time to work. The economic doctrine of trickle-down is a fraud and a failure and was designed to wreck the middle class and re-distrubte the wealth of the nation UPWARD. Those efforts were a tremendous success. That is why we are in thee mess we are in now. Unfortunately I still don’t think our newly elected government gets it.
This country’s national security, economic stability and success is predicated on…built on “bubble-up”. Living wage jobs for anyone and everyone who can qualify. Strong domestic manufacturing…sane and effective protection for domestic manufacturers against artificially cheap foriegn imports.
I simply don’t take anyone seriously who does not recognize this as a basic fact of economic life. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. That is the key. Domestic industry is a national security issue. BOTH parties have sold out and abdicated their responsibility but the vast majority of the damage was done under Republican rule, starting with Reagan busting the flight controllers union.
I completely understand how you may nott agree wwith everything here…but there is more we agree on I think than not.
correctnotright,
Why do you hate America? After 9/11 we were kept safe. Clinton’s own man Roger Cressey tells everyone Cheney and team told Obama everything…
““This is very unusual,” said Roger Cressey, a former Clinton White House counterterrorism official who was held over under Mr. Bush. “We certainly did not do that. When the transition happened from Clinton to Bush, remember it was a totally different world. You had some documents given that gave them a flavor of where things were at. But now you’ve got two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and a hot war against Al Qaeda.”
In addition to the White House contingency memorandums, the Department of Homeland Security said it had given crisis training to nearly 100 career officials who may fill in while Mr. Obama’s appointees await Senate confirmation. Starting before the election, those career workers have conducted exercises alongside departing political appointees to test their responses.”
Everybody knew that Barack Hussein Obama Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm had no gravitas on what he was going to do in foreign policy.
And of course correctnotright is a fool walking
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
the dumb cinder block cracks again.
Dr Krauthammer Harvard educated board certified.
rujax dumb cinder block certified as dense as spent uranium. Dithering in Afghanistan.
Obama Dithers Military Withers.
Nuff Said Sucka!
Yep! That large empty hole in your “head” doesn’t contain your breath!
Krauthammer is not worth reading. He is thoroughly partisan; his agenda appears in every op-ed he writes. Moreover, he doesn’t even write very well. I always read George Will. I almost never agree with him (unless he’s writing about baseball). He is partisan, generally wrong, but he writes very well and can think. Krauthammer just kills newsprint.
You’re just a real fucking jackass aren’t you.
And by the way…what is a Black Man doing talking about the “whitey house”. That still puzzles me. Especially when the occupant is an exceptionally qualified individual who happens to be the very first popularly (by a large margin) elected man of color…Black Man…in the history of this country.
Only a real fucking jackass like you could take offense to that like you do. Agree with him or not…he’s qualified, he EARNED the job, and he’s doing it well.
A fuck of a lot better than the frat-rat before him.
Shame on you, jerkoff.
So I wonder why the fucking jerrkoff Puddydummy (Ka-BLAMMO…suckasuckasuckasucka…Bullshittium!!!!!)hates America and Americans, especially African-Americans so much?
Promises, promises…
Rujax!
Cut Puddy some slack. He plainly hates himself. We don’t know the reasons. We probably don’t want to know the reasons. I think, however, that tossing him a line now and then doesn’t hurt. We might be able to reel him in.
This speech, if anyone actually happened to click on it, is beautiful. And, American to the core. R-71 is pro-family values, pro-civil rights, pro-American.
Puddy: Why are you a total and biased fool?
You said:
Unfortunately, before 9?11 Bush dropped the ball – he changed priorities (according to Richard Clark) and dismissed the threat of al qaida, he failed to follow up ont he infamous memo that detailed the threat ….and you forgot all that….and try to write some revisionist crap?
Wow, you are not only biased but also blind and stoopid too.
ruax spews:
Growth is important and required of any sustainable economic model. Whether you want to admit it or not Rujax, Obama’s massive borrowing with Porkulous, bailouts, cash for heaps etc….is all about creating a bubble. Making things a little brighter today theu UNSUSTAINABLE debt is merely kicking the can down the road…no matter who does it.
With the House Health Care Plan on the table, I believe it will be the log that breaks the camels back. Even the CBO Estimates are filled with plenty of optimism.
There is plenty of fault to go around…including Obama’s Gig Government, Big Debt strategies.
91. proud leftist spews:
Anyone who disagrees with you is partisan and not worth reading, right?
I guess Michael Moore & Al Gore are enuf for your pointy l’il noggin, huh?
Krauthammer presents carefully crafted, well-researched and fact supported arguments. Go ahead and disagree…but from your posts here on HorsesAss.org Proud Leftist, your opinions seem both highly partisan and sprinkled with a slight resemblance to the facts.
93. Rujax! spews:
You know, making endless comments like these really, truly makes you sound angry and stupid.
Why not make a New Year’s resolution to stop the childish, vulgar nonsense and make a cogent argument. I think I remember you almost doing that once!
Good luck.
Your current path is a real waste of time and intellect, don’t you think??
@91 George Will will forever be remembered for his comparison of Hitler’s Big Lies and Nixon’s Little Lies.
Hitler’s theory of the Big Lie, Will wrote, was that if you tell a whopper that’s big enough people will believe it because no one will think you’d dare to tell a lie so big.
Nixon, Will observed, “told lies so petty and demeaning you wondered why he stooped to it.”
@95 “He plainly hates himself.”
Yes, but not nearly as much as he hates everyone else.
@97 “After 9/11 we were kept safe”
Ah, no, we weren’t. About 5,000 of us ended up dead in an unnecessary war in Iraq with thousands more maimed for life. The toll of American lives and limbs taken by Bush/GOP’s recreational war in Iraq far exceeds what the Islamofascist terrorists managed to inflict us on. With “friends” like Bush and Cheney, the terrorists seem redundant and superfluous, as far as mayhem goes.
@98 “Obama’s massive borrowing with Porkulous, bailouts, cash for heaps etc….is all about creating a bubble.”
Goddamn. Sometimes Cynical is just plain funny. I mean rib-tickling, side-splitting, coffee-spitting laughable. Should I remind him of …
1) Bush’s massive borrowing from China?
2) The multiple, gargantuan bubbles created on his watch in mortgages, shadow banking, etc., that brought the global economy down?
… nah, I’ll let him figure it out himself.
@97 “After 9/11 we were kept safe”
After 9/11? Wingnuts use that to divert attention from the fact that 3000 Americans died on Bush’s watch because he ignored the fucking PDB and every other warning of an impending terrorist attack. After 9/11? Bush invades the wrong fucking country and nearly 5,000 more Americans die. Fuck you and your repeated bleating of “after 9/11”.
Actually, the number since 2003 is less than 4700. Of that number, over 130 have died since Obama became President or 17/mo.
During the Bush Presidency where the vast majority of the Iraq hostility took place, the death toll was about 63/month.
Since Obama took office, the US has lost some of it’s gains.
In Afghanistan, per Wikipedia:
Approx. 347 US deaths since Obama took office or about 43/month.
During the Bush Administration since the start of action in 10/01, the death toll was approx. 11/mo.
So when you look at combining monthly death rates in the 2 areas of conflict…
Under Bush==74/mo.
Under Obama==60/mo.
Under Obama, we are sitting around waiting for Obama to re-consider his March, 2009 commitment to fight to win.
104. Roger Rabbit spews:
Rog, you can try as hard as you like to deny Obama has made choices which contributed to a huge acceleration of the National Debt. You can try to rationalize it and cast blame elsewhere. But the Porkulous was OBAMA. The Auto Bailout as OBAMA (Obama could have taken action to change it and didn’t), Cash for Clunkers was OBAMA.
OB
correctnotright, according to Roger Cressey they passed some papers to Bush and said have at it. Hey it was in the NY Times so it has to be true right correctnotright? So Puddy suggests putting Roger Cressey in the same room with Richard Clarke.
10 Rounds. Lets hear the real truth.
Roger Wabbit
You need to stop hanging out at the kook-aid sites. Call your butt buddy Bawney Fwank.
Oh yes the “detailed threat” per Richard Clarke… “Al Qaeda gonna attack the US sometime soon. We lobbed some missiles at the aspirin factory in Sudan 2008. We decided not to take him out while Clinton was dithering at Wimbledon July 2006.” See ya.
Sincerely,
Richard Clarke
@108: ooops, Richard Clarke was the head…and Cressy….some underling? Who cares about Cressy? Weak again, Puddy.
Clark detailed the threat of al quaida (you remember, the threat that your friends (the conservatives) claimed was not true and that Clinton was using to distract from “Monica”).
Yup, and then Clarke detailed how Bush decided to ignore anything that Clinton thought was important – including al qaida.
For someone with a supposedly good memory – you sure forget a lot.
Try this from the NY Times:
Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03.....qaeda.html
Wrong again Puddy – are you trying to have a perfect record of being wrong?
@106 – Klynical fool
Thanks for demonstrating you ignorance once again.
Only somebody incredibly stupid would say something like this:
Yup – maybe if Bush/Cheney had actually thought about the consequences of going into Iraq we could have saved thousands of lives – both Iraqi and US.
Instead, they trumped up evidence and got us into a war that we did not need to fight against a country that was never a threat.
In the meantime, the incompetent Bush/Cheney regime failed to finish the job in Afghanistan – creating the almost unwinnable mess that is there today.
And an idiot like Klynical, who supported the unnecessary Iraq war, is now criticizing Obama for re-evaluating the conditions in Afghanistan (run by the corrupt Bush favorite, Karzai).
Yeah, we need to think long and hard about wasting american lives in a tough war….and if it is worth it to protect a corrupt government.
I happen to think it is worth it – to keep al qaida out of Afghanistan. But Bush did not.
Roger Cressey?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12.....ition.html
““This is very unusual,” said Roger Cressey, a former Clinton White House counterterrorism official who was held over under Mr. Bush. “We certainly did not do that. When the transition happened from Clinton to Bush, remember it was a totally different world. You had some documents given that gave them a flavor of where things were at. But now you’ve got two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and a hot war against Al Qaeda.””
“Roger W. Cressey is a former member of the United States National Security Council staff, where he held the position of Director for Transnational Threats from November 1999 through November 2001. He is currently the president of the Good Harbor consulting group, and an adjunct Professor of counter-terrorism policy at Georgetown University.[1]” – WikiPedia
Yes it was a low level position. In the mind of correctnotright.
We still laugh at you!
Mr. Clarke served the last three Presidents as a senior White House Advisor.
From November 1999 to November 2001, Mr. Cressey served as Director for Transnational Threats on the National Security Council staff, where he was responsible for coordination and implementation of U.S. counterterrorism policy.
You can find this here fool!
Once again you are a kook-aid drinking tool!
Too bad correctnotright drinks the warm kook-aid!
Correctnotright,
Snopes has info for you…
Rock hatchling @110: Since you’ve decided to misquote History, I’ve decided to correct you:
“During the transition between administrations, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger arranged several extensive briefings on this last subject for Bush’s incoming national security adviser, Condoleeza Rice, and others on the Bush team, including Vice President Cheney. One briefing lasted half a day. Berger told them that Osama bin Laden was an ‘existential threat’ and told them that he wanted ‘to underscore how important this issue is.’ In another briefing, Richard Clarke, head of counterrorism in the NSC, the single most knowledgeable expert in the government, gave them a complete tutorial on the subject. In yet another briefing, CIA officials were brought in to go over all the intelligence available on terrorism.
“Don Kerrick, a three-star general and outgoing deputy national security adviser, overlapped for four months with the new Bush people. He submitted a memo for the new National Security Council warning of the danger of terrorism. ‘We are going to be struck again,’ he wrote. But as Kerrick explained to me, he received no answer to his memo. ‘They didn’t respond,’ he said. ‘They never responded. It was not high on their priority list. I was never invited to one meeting. They never asked me to do anything. They were not focusing. They didn’t see terrorism as the big megaissue that the Clinton administration saw it as. They were concentrated on what they thought were higher priorities than terrorism.’ The Principals meeting of national security officials took up terrorism only once, after constant pressure from Clarke, on September 4, 2001, and at that meeting they discussed using unmanned Predator drone spy aircraft, but no decision was made. ‘Unfortunately,’ said Kerrick, ‘September 11 gave them something to focus on.’”
— Sidney Blumenthal, The Clinton Wars (New York: Farrar, Strauss, and Giroux, 2003), pp. 797-798.
@110, @116 — Well whaddya know, puddy is a fucking liar. Who wudda thunk?
I urge impartial readers of this blog who are unfamiliar with puddy’s M.O. to keep in mind this is an example of how he substitutes fictions that he makes up himself for verifiable historical facts. Puddy does this habitually, because puddy isn’t as stupid as some of the other trolls on this blog, and does understand the slickest way to “win” an argument is to change the facts from which the conclusions flow. That way, his arguments seem logical. Trouble is, when puddy lies about what the facts are, which is every time he posts, that has the effect of invalidating all of his arguments.
How is Puddy misquoting history when it was written by the NY Times to lend gravitas to preznit-erect Obama and his administration? And you qite from loony lefty Sindney Blumenthal?
The man behind Hillary’s “vast right-wing conspiracy”
SoS Clinton ex-senior campaign advisor for preznit.
The man who gold-plated guilt-by-association tactics.
What a joke the dumb bunny is.
@118 Puddy urges impartial readers of this blog who are unfamiliar with Roger Rabbit’s M.O keep in mind this is an example of how Roger substitutes fictions that he makes up himself for verifiable historical facts. Roger likes to puff himself up with rewrites of other people’s information. An astute reader will spot specific key words you can use on Google. Searching with those key words will lead you to the original information author where Roger hijacked the information and rewrites it as his “own thoughts”. The HA Libtardo simpleton class will pat Roger between his floppy ears saying good bunny without realizing much of the material has been plagiarized. Then Roger will posit “truths” from whackamole kook-aid sites. He delivers political half-truths all the time. Pay attention to his “entries” and search and see him in “action”.
His best works are
1) This is how things work posts
2) Guessing politics of other locations like Stafford County VA and Cuyahoga County Ohio.
3) His Haiti posts were amazing
4) He tried to redefine the word IF
Pay attention to the dumb bunny. He’ll post crap into a thread totally unrelated to the thread and the blog owners let the old flea bag bunny slide.