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Open Thread 3/17 (CE)

by Carl Ballard — Monday, 3/17/14, 8:01 am

– Buffer zones for abortion clinics are necessary.

– When the Washington State Legislature adjourned without getting much done, at least it didn’t get the bad stuff done.

– A while ago in an open thread, I’d mentioned that Rodney Tom has an opponent, Former Kirkland Mayor Joan McBride. If you’re interested, here’s her website. [h/t]

– The first is a new rule vigorously enforced: Pay to play. It now costs money to get a close up look at America’s political leaders, or ask them a question.

– Given my grammar, punctuation, and poor word choice, far be it from me to make fun of a typo by the Discovery Institute. But not far be it from me to link to someone else making fun of a typo from them.

– I don’t know that any rules or laws will ever be adequate to that task. Social norms are actually probably more important in something like this (which is why it’s so depressing to see so many people defending this stuff and condemning those who object.)

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  1. 1

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 9:46 am

    Wrong headline… It now costs money to get a close up look at America’s DUMOCRETINS… There that’s better!

    Ten Democratic women from the U.S. Senate, plus a pair of promising 2014 Senate challengers, came calling on Seattle Saturday — very quietly.

    Ordinary party activists did not get to meet them. Nor was there any event for civic-minded young women, or their elders who laid groundwork for Washington becoming the first state to have a woman governor and two Senators in office at the same time.

    Wait a minute… This is the standard scream of morons like ekimgoatappendagelover or OWS Racist Fraggy; It’s big money an Republicans… Pfffffffffffffft! Well Puddy been saying this for years and the PuddyProof was not on left wrong sites but main stream sites that would lapse into truth mode.

    HAHAHAHAHA! DUMMOCRETINS ignoring their own kind.

    Thanks Carl for dispensing truth for a change instead of copying posts from vapid left wrong sites!

  2. 2

    Nope spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 9:58 am

    If you allow buffer zones for one, you must allow buffer zones for all.

  3. 3

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 10:03 am

    The Democrats were a blue-collar, lunch bucket outfit back then.

    Yep, now they are run by the corporatists and that’s why Jesse Hi-Jackson called them the Rainbow Coalition long ago!

  4. 4

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 10:07 am

    Where is the HA DUMMOCRETIN hue and cry for this? If it was Alberto Gonzalez, there would be multiple threads on this from the head HA DUMMOCRETINS…

    The Department of Justice will not disclose the names of its lawyers responsible for more than 650 ethical violations found in internal agency watchdog reports.

    DOJ’s Office of Professional Responsibility documented more than 650 examples of its lawyers violating department ethics rules, according to a review of internal documents and OPR reports compiled by the Project on Government Oversight.

    Intentionally lying to Federal Courts numerous times. Eric Holder and gang are scum lawyers… DUMMOCRETIN pond scum lawyers and peeps like Roger Idiot Wabbit like DUMMOCRETIN pond scum lawyers!

  5. 5

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 10:27 am

    Jim McDimwitt – Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)

    Socialist Party of America Releases The Names of 70 Democrat Members Of Congress Who Are Members Of Their Caucus

    No wonder HA DUMMOCRETINS love Jim McDimWitt!

  6. 6

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 10:56 am

    @5

    I see the person playing the puddibigot has achieved a new triumph in caricaturing stupidity.

    He’s linking to a series of Teahaddist fever swamp pages – nested references whose links, when they work – all go back to an alleged 2009 ‘newsletter’ which appears to state that a huge number of Democratic Congresscritters are also in the Democratic Socialist’s caucus. It’s all very conspiratorial, and very likely fictitious, and of course reiterated all over the bumpkin pages.

    Were it only so – the Congress would be vastly improved if there were a bunch of Socialists there.

    I’m proud to consider myself a Socialist, and I think that the only socialist in the Senate, Bernie Sanders, is too often a lone voice for sanity and justice.

    From the Democratic Socialists’ website:

    At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy, as means and end.

    and…

    -decrease the influence of money in politics

    -empower ordinary people in workplaces and the economy

    -restructure gender and cultural relationships to be more equitable.

    and…

    We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo.

    We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms to achieve equitable distribution of resources, meaningful work, a healthy environment, sustainable growth, gender and racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships.

    Thank you, person playing puddibigot, for the opportunity to post that. You’re a mensch.

  7. 7

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 11:23 am

    Notice nuthin Lib NoScientist wrote above discounts or refutes the original premise offered by Puddy above.

    It’s all very conspiratorial, and very likely fictitious

    Can you find any link to disprove it Lib NoScientist or as previously offered, the HCL and H2SO4 fumes from those acids used to clean those test tubes has scrambled your single celled pea-sized brain?

    decrease the influence of money in politics

    Well Look at the link from Carl… That’s not working for you DUMMOCRETINS!

    empower ordinary people in workplaces and the economy

    How’s that working for ya when the DUMMOCRETIN elite freezes out the leetle people per Carl’s link?

  8. 8

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 11:44 am

    Hey puddy, where are real Republican Jobs bills?

  9. 9

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 11:45 am

    What is the legitimate republican replacement for the Affordable Care act?

  10. 10

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 11:51 am

    I don’t really give much credance to puddy. In puddy’s perfect world, the internet would be controlled by say…the koch brothers and all data that was conservative would be free but anything liberal or union would be blocked or at best, astronomically expensive to access. Anyone who thinks that’s acceptable is insane.

  11. 11

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 12:00 pm

    I’m for some limited socialism that make America stronger and more equitable, same with capitalism. I want a vibrant middle class and the ability for the poor to attain the middle class or better if they work for it, and play by the rules.

    Alas, little that current republicans are proposing is forwarding that vision.

    After all, there are not 10.5 million unfilled teaching, networking, programming, laywer, marketing and neurosurgeons jobs in America. That’s just amount of people out of work, not counting the people who would like better work.

  12. 12

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 12:17 pm

    Hey puddy, where are real Republican Jobs bills?

    Notice this stupid meme?

    1) Obummer wanted no input for Republicans
    2) Republicans obliged Obummer

    Nuff SAID Sucka!

  13. 13

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 12:18 pm

    I don’t really give much credance to puddy. In puddy’s perfect world, the internet would be controlled by say…the koch brothers and all data that was conservative would be free but anything liberal or union would be blocked or at best, astronomically expensive to access.

    Still didn’t read the Appeals Court decision did you Fascist Pigsty? Obummer’s FCC wanted to assert control, not the Koch Brothers you idiot!

    Another Sorry EPIC FAYLE from Fascist Pigsty!

  14. 14

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 12:29 pm

    More missing information from the HA leftist libtard DUMMOCRETINS… Holy $15/Hour Batman

    Bill Gates: When people say we should raise the minimum wage, I think… I know some economists would disagree, but I think boy, I worry about what that does to job creation. The idea that through the Earned Income Tax Credit, you’d end up with a minimum wage that you’d receive – that, I understand better than potentially damping demand in the part of the labor spectrum that I’m most worried about.

    Y’all love to trot out Bill when it’s tax the rich and it’s mute time when he doesn’t toe the DUMMOCRETIN progressive line here. Well if you remember… Bill kind of knows how to build a business. He knows labor costs unlike these pie-in-the-sky libtards who lived in guvmint or drink the progressive swill all their lives.

    Didn’t 5 Nobel Laureates sign a letter to DUMMOCRETINS against raising the minimum wage?

    The Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) most recent report underscores the damage that a federal minimum wage increase would have. According to CBO, raising the federal minimum wage to $10.10 per hour would cost the economy 500,000 jobs by 2016. Many of these jobs are held by entry-level workers with limited experience or vocational skills, the very employees meant to be helped.

    Yes they did! Where is that well known economist Markos Moulitsas Zuniga when HA DUMMOCRETINS need to visit his Daily Kooks left wrong site to get their raise the minimum wage marching orders?

    Oh my Bill Gates, you just pizzed off the HA DUMMOCRETIN faithful!

  15. 15

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 12:42 pm

    Meanwhile you have Robert NoLonger Fibbs telling the truth… Yet Dan Pfieffer lies to you with a straight face.

    It’s spin vs. real BULLSHITTIUM! Obummer’s pinheads deliver the latter!

  16. 16

    Conservatives suck a big one spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 12:53 pm

    Markos Moulitsas Zuniga

    Who is this troll?

    Oh yeah the guy that’s near the top of this list..

    Kicking the worthless asses of klownservative Faux News and the “unskewed pollster”.

  17. 17

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 12:59 pm

    Now here is something the lame stream media will skip over Case #1087 – gun owner thwarts a robbery against herself…

    The force that talks: Smith and Wesson!

  18. 18

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 1:01 pm

    Did @16 even post something worthwhile for 2014?

    Nope cuz the crazed databaze deala is a dope. Nothing regarding the truth from all those economists!

    PUDDY deep in the mind of the crazed databaze deala!

    Sux to be him or it!

  19. 19

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 1:12 pm

    Fascist Pigsty farted…

    What is the legitimate republican replacement for the Affordable Care act?

    Well it seems the WaPost knows about it!

  20. 20

    bex spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 2:01 pm

    It looks like Joan McBride needs to update her site… not much on the calendar yet:

    http://joanmcbride.com/index.php?page=events

    What kind of odds to you give her for knocking out Rodney Tom?

  21. 21

    phil spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 2:20 pm

    @17
    You must have missed this one in the same paper…armed delivery driver goes after unarmed homeowner, both get shot by the same bullet in struggle.

  22. 22

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 3:43 pm

    @21,

    Was more interested in the Brig General court martial case where he sexually abused a captain in his command!

  23. 23

    Hans spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 4:38 pm

    @21

    or this one

  24. 24

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 5:52 pm

    hans@23,

    Not in the North Carolina paper.

    See ya hans!

  25. 25

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 6:05 pm

    Remember it’s A-OK to lie to infidels. Puddy already gave HA DUMMOCRETINS the two sections in the Koran!

    Asked if he had seen a change in Iranian procurement behavior in the past six to 12 months, a period that has seen a cautious thaw in U.S.-Iranian relations after decades of hostility, Van Diepen replied: “The short answer is no.

    …

    “We continue to see them very actively setting up and operating through front companies, falsifying documentation, engaging in multiple levels of trans-shipment … to put more apparent distance between where the item originally came from and where it is ultimately going.”

    Yet Obummer and his minion Jon Stewart (carried by HA Leader DUMMOCRETINS) screamed about Republicans being very skeptical over the deal. Well seems the Republicans are looking correct again! Puddy found the letter… http://www.aipac.org/~/media/P.....Letter.pdf

  26. 26

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 6:17 pm

    Charles Krauthammer nails it again!

    Weak and taking senate DUMMOCRETINS down with him!

  27. 27

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 7:31 pm

    Remember, you DUMMOCRETINS voted for this Obamanation.

    Now with the NSA revelations the Internet being in China’s or Russia’s control. Imagine HA under Russia/China control?

  28. 28

    Hans spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 7:32 pm

    Not in the North Carolina paper.

    Brilliant!

  29. 29

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 9:06 pm

    @17 How about this one — cop shoots elderly man with cane because cop thought cane was a gun?

    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/.....e.cnn.html

    The cop, at least, apologized to the wounded man and his wife (who also was in the car). The cop’s boss called his actions “appropriate.” WTF? Shooting an old person because you can’t tell the difference between a cane and a gun is never appropriate! In my opinion, they both should be fired. When citizens are in more danger from the police than from criminals, it’s time for a housecleaning.

  30. 30

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 9:08 pm

    Brilliant!

    ABSOLUTELY hans… So how could Puddy miss

    or this one

    See how English works hans

    You must have missed this one in the same paper

    See ya hans! No hans on this deck!

  31. 31

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Monday, 3/17/14 at 9:10 pm

    Let’s see the global warming deniers explain this away:

    “California is coming off of its warmest winter on record, aggravating an enduring drought in the most populous U.S. state, federal weather scientists said Monday.”

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us.....ght-n55181

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Basically the same thing will happen here in the Pacific Northwest. As the climate warms, insufficient snowpack will accumulate in the mountains, then kiss eastern Washington’s irrigation water and agriculture industry goodbye!

  32. 32

    Conservatives suck a big one spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 12:47 am

    Charles Krauthammer nails it again!

    Heh..

    CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: Well, obviously it’s beyond our control. The Russians are advancing. There is nothing that will stop them. We are not going to go to war over Georgia.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/2.....ccain-are/

  33. 33

    Conservatives suck a big one spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 12:54 am

    Now with the NSA revelations the Internet being in China’s or Russia’s control. Imagine HA under Russia/China control?

    Heh.

    Response: The U.S. Government is
    committed to a transition that will allow
    the private sector to take leadership for
    DNS management.

    http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/....._98dns.pdf

    Wow. Back in ’98.. What did Bush do about that?

  34. 34

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 2:05 am

    Yesterday was a big day for science, as researchers announced their data appear to confirm Big Bang inflation. However, scientists are waiting for additional confirmation.

  35. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 2:10 am

    @32 Whether we go to war with Russia over Crimea depends on who is president. Obama — no. Rand Paul — probably not. Ted Cruz — bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsnL6gmGOZA

  36. 36

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 5:50 am

    Puddy is deep in the mind of the crazed databaze deala…

    Wow. Back in ’98.. What did Bush do about that?

    That was Clinton years ya moron. Did Bush claim anything about the releasing the Internet as Obummer has?

    NOPE YOU DOPE!

  37. 37

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 5:59 am

    Meanwhile Puddy’s hometown has the 2nd snowiest winter on record Roger Idiot Wabbit…

    And Lake Superior isn’t that icy either… Just 92% covered! Close to a new record.

  38. 38

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 6:33 am

    Regarding Charles Krauthammer…

    The crazed databaze deala whips out 2008? Of course… Daily Kooks or Media Morons Everyone will see the crazed databaze deala changes the avatar and the name but it’s still the same old fool “clueless ylb”!

    Still sux to be him. Did the crazed databaze deala find a yob yet? Or is the crazed databaze deala still sucking the unemployment tit?

  39. 39

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 7:10 am

    #37.
    If you keep having cold winters there and everywhere for a decade, then you have a trend.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.....st_decades
    Puddy is doing what too many lying republican do. Cherry picking one data point and using that to claim the whole thing is wrong. There is one welfare cheat so all of welfare must be destroyed. There is one cold winter, in one place, so climate change is invalid. Willfull ignorance.

    I notice you don’t talk about any legitimate republican jobs bills.

  40. 40

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 7:22 am

    http://www.motherjones.com/blu.....neil-tyson

    Conservatives will do their best to shut down anything that threatens their world view.
    For example. Puddy cannot even start to admit that climate change is happening.

  41. 41

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 7:30 am

    The Apartheid of Children’s Literature

    This apartheid of literature — in which characters of color are limited to the townships of occasional historical books that concern themselves with the legacies of civil rights and slavery but are never given a pass card to traverse the lands of adventure, curiosity, imagination or personal growth.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03......html?_r=1

    That’s sad. I wonder if each and every publisher decided that to maximize profits they couldn’t risk a black main character in a harry potter like story. I wonder if self publishing or e book publishing has greater diversity?

  42. 42

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 8:35 am

    Cherry picking one data point and using that to claim the whole thing is wrong.

    Man, Fascist Pigsty… how is a cold winter over the continental US a single data point?

    And we also know that many of those “thermometers” were located in strange areas.

    Or this…

  43. 43

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 8:37 am

    Yeah those single points of 2013 predicted rise in tornado and hurricane activity fell flat last year huh Fascist Pigsty?

  44. 44

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 9:22 am

    The Apartheid of Children’s Literature

    Why not ask JK Rowling why no black peeps in Harry Potter? She’s close to being a $$$Billionaire, so why not sue her with your DUMMOCRETIN loving lawyers peeps?

    Why you’re at it why not sue Mattel because they won’t make more Black Barbie accessories?

    Butt then again you have the exploitative doll manufacturers who are putting out “look-alikes”! Black Doll with blond hair!

  45. 45

    Hans spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 9:43 am

    See ya hans! No hans on this deck!

    Nothing but puddy between the ears? Maybe smokin a little too much of that puddy-bud!

  46. 46

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 10:23 am

    @42. Conservatives are now trying to deny climate change because of the placement of the thermometers?

  47. 47

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 10:35 am

    @44. There may have been great series, as good as Harry Potter, with African American main characters, or a Chinese kids or Mexican American teens, but we will never know, because the publishing houses won’t buy or promote them.

    But what is the conservatives answer? Someone else should have lawyers sue to force them to make publish.

  48. 48

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 10:47 am

    @43. yes, trying to say there is not Climate Change because we did get snow or didn’t get tornados for one specific season is cherry picking one data point and saying it proves or disproves the trend.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wWOh.....istory.png

    http://static.flickr.com/18/70.....291f_o.jpg

    So by conservative logic, Men cannot grow beards if one measures 10 minutes after a man shaves.

    Where are the legitimate republican jobs bills?

  49. 49

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 12:43 pm

    Conservatives are now trying to deny climate change because of the placement of the thermometers?

    There goes Fascist Pigsty making stooooooooooopid commentary again!

  50. 50

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 12:44 pm

    but we will never know, because the publishing houses won’t buy or promote them.

    BULLSHITTIUM, Rowling didn’t write black people into her series you moron! Take it up with the author.

    Sheeeesh, this is what HA DUMMOCRETIN thought is now?

    Oh my goodness!

  51. 51

    Conservatives suck a big one spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 12:49 pm

    That was Clinton years

    Duh! What did Bush do about that Clinton era policy? Point to the policy statement..

    Yawwwn.. You can’t. Not like I did. Republicans love privatizing shit!

    Shredded!

  52. 52

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 12:51 pm

    Here are hurricanes and tornadoes from 2000-2013.

    So much for that sucky single data point argument Fascist Pigsty!

    This stuff is so easy to find too!

    During the most recent decade, 2001-2010, 7 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is exactly the 100-year average.

    During the preceding decade, 1991-2000, 6 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is below the 100-year average.

    During the decade 1981-1990, 4 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is substantially below the 100-year average, and ties the least number of major hurricanes on record.

  53. 53

    Conservatives suck a big one spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 12:52 pm

    What else?

    whips out 2008

    In 2008, Krauthammer says..

    Well, obviously it’s beyond our control.

    when Russia invades its neighboor Georgia and Bush is in charge.

    In 2014 – Krauthammer like Puddyfool suffers from ODS..

    Yawwnn..

  54. 54

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 12:57 pm

    Didin’t Puddy claim this was the crazed databaze deala? Didn’t Puddy claim Puddy lives in the mind of the crazed databaze deala?

    Bush didn’t have to do anything because it was a proposal you moron! Obummer decided to go forth and do it! Whatatard!

    Yes you shredded your own insipid argument you idiot!

    Did you get a yob yet?

  55. 55

    Conservatives suck a big one spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 1:01 pm

    Bush didn’t have to do anything because it was a proposal you HA superstar! RMoney ass-kicker, 2 term President Obama decided to go forth and do it!

    LOL! You mean privatizing a government function was beyond the capabilities of “teh deciderer in chief”?

  56. 56

    Puddybud - The One The Only spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 1:40 pm

    Shredded again! Sad so sad!

  57. 57

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Tuesday, 3/18/14 at 3:57 pm

    The longer the scale, the better the charts.
    I posted hurricane data for over a century, he posted hurricanes for just over a decade. Again, he is cherry picking the data. Typical republican.

    This is fascinating when I googled “why are there less tornadoes”

    Could Global Warming Change Tornado Season?
    In 2011, the United States saw its second-deadliest tornado season in history: Nearly 1,700 tornadoes killed 553 people. The Joplin, Mo., twister was the single deadliest in American history, killing 158 people and causing $2.8 billion in damage.

    The following year, 2012, started even earlier and even busier. Through April there were twice as many tornadoes as normal. Then the twisters suddenly disappeared. Tornado activity from May to August of that year was the lowest in 60 years of record-keeping

    Meanwhile, Canada saw an unusual number of tornadoes in 2012; Saskatchewan had three times the normal number.

    That year, the jet stream moved north and “essentially shut down” tornadoes in the American Midwest. A tremendous drought meant far fewer storms, which not only shut off the spigot on rain but on storm cells that spawned tornadoes.
    http://www.wunderground.com/ne.....s-20130318

    Huh…Climate Change. Nobody could have imagined!
    Why do conservatives choose to stay willfully ignorant?

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