It’s almost midnight, and I’m sitting here in my car in the parking lot by Tully’s, tapping into their WiFi so I can check my email. It’s now been three days without power, and my house is freezing. This really sucks.
I hope you’ve drained the water out of your water pipes so they don’t freeze. It’s really a bummer when that happens.
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rightonspews:
Outrageous we don’t have diversity of blackouts; i mean the urban “minorities” got power before the vast unwashed masses of soccer moms and dads…
We need a special commission to fix this preference system that benefits Seattle..
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RightEqualsStupidspews:
Amazing – the right wing asslickers are attacking our Governor because she wants the people to decide on the Alaskan Way project. Will the righties ever be happy? Of course not.
Note they are always running to that conman Timmy Lieman to ask for a referendum on this or that, claiming it’s up to the PEOPLE to decide. So when Chris sets up the same situation, it’s a failure of leadership?
These baby-raping, asshole-licking republicans are as intellectually dishonest as they are inbred.
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rightonspews:
or rightequalsstupid… you could also ask…
where is the governor amidst our cold/power crisis? all those stupid issues you all made up trying to pin Katrina on Bush…
we’re dark and cold and she’s out making speeches, announcements that have nothing to do with our comfort and even safety (immigrants dying from asphyxiation; others from (stupidly) running generators indoors)
where was she and what did she know?
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Wonderful World of Dieboldspews:
Roger Rabbit says:
38 Keep living in your wingnut fantasy world. I don’t care.
12/17/2006 at 8:55 pm
You tell em Rabbit. Hey did you our Vacation package yet?
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RightEqualsStupidspews:
I hear that WHATADICK CHENEY was behind our power outage – payback I guess because we had the good sense to vote D. He just called his buddies in the energy business and said, screw em.
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RightEqualsStupidspews:
I hear that WHATADICK CHENEY was behind our power outage – payback I guess because we had the good sense to vote D. He just called his buddies in the energy business and said, screw em.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
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Wrong Again, as usual, is impermeable to both information and reason.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
5 Hey did you our Vacation package yet?
WTF??! does this mean?
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rhp6033spews:
Goldie, returning to the subject of whether the poor are suffering disproportianately in the power outages.
We used to live in Edmonds, almost on the county line. We suffered power outages frequently, almost every year or so. Sometimes the power was restored in a few hours, sometimes it took several days.
But ten years or so ago we moved to Everett, and we haven’t had a power outage of more than a few minutes since we have lived there.
The difference? I think its because we now live in a relatively large subdivision with underground utilities. This is required for the construction of most new subdivisions in Snohomish County. Power lines which are underground can’t be damaged by falling trees or limbs.
Of course, there is nothing that can protect us from a large sub-station being taken out, or high-tension feeder lines to those sub-stations being blown down. But older homes, especially those in lower-middle class (working class) neighborhoods, all have overhead lines. This means that in addition to solving the big problems, the electrical crews have to go down each street, fixing a multitude of smaller problems before each house can get power.
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My Left Footspews:
Righton @ 4:
I guess you forgot about “Great job, Brownie”
Forgot about the thousands we all saw pleading, and some dying while waiting, for help that took 5 days to get to the biggest fucking building in New Orleans.
Forgot about how the federal government rushed in, days too late, with a clusterfuck system of debit cards. No thought given on how to control them.
Forgot about millions of dollars wasted to park cruise ships in the harbor that no one used.
Forgot about thousands upon thousands of trailers that still sit unused.
Fogot about the federal rebuilding funds/loans that are nearly impossible get because of all the red tape.
Forgot about how we all saw it on TV, with our own eyes. You are like Groucho Marx asking “Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?”
Forgot about, just to remind you, that it took five (one day for each finger on your hand) for substantial help to arrive. Why? Because federal agencies were not poorly coordinated, they were completely uncoordinated. They refused to talk with each other, common sense was completely lacking. As a result, Righton, people died needlessly.
How is that for some made up stuff about Bush. He is the president, he is the decider (his words, not mine) and the responsibility is his. That is why you motherfuckers lost the last election.
Funny, Righton, how that fucking works.
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Roger Rabbitspews:
Gee Goldy, I’m sorry you still don’t have power. I’d invite you to stay at my burrow … but I don’t think you’d fit in here, and besides — it being the holiday tree season and all — I have several thousand of my children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, great-great-grandchildren, great-great-great-grandchildren, etc., visiting so it’s kinda crowded down here. Cheers, Roger.
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rhp6033spews:
re: 10
Goldy, not Goldie. I didn’t meant it as an insult, I just wasn’t paying that much attention as I typed.
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rhp6033spews:
Goldy;
Seattle City Light expects everyone to have power by midnight tonight.
Post # 1 has a good point about the water. I suspect that if your pipes haven’t frozen yet they won’t do it before tonight. But if it looks like you will go another night without power, turn off the main water supply to your house (I hope you know where the valve is), and then purge the water from each of the faucets. After you get power back and the house warms up a bit, open the main valve and then turn on the faucets one at a time, in order to purge air from the pipes.
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rhp6033spews:
MMLF at 11: I really think the Thursday after Katrina was the turning point for the Bush administration.
For days, beginning on that Monday after the hurricane hit, national reporters had been documenting the deteriorating conditions at the Superdome and the plight of those in the flood-stricken neighborhoods, trying to find a way to get to safety, and to find food and water. They kept asking – when is FEMA going to arrive?
The immediate rescue efforts all seem to have been privately driven. A lot of people make fun of the Scots-Irish descendents who populate much of the working class of the south, calling them “rednecks”. But I grew up among those folks, and I wasn’t surprised when I saw that they didn’t wait for instructions from anybody – they just put their fishing boats in the water and started saving people from rooftops. What they didn’t have was any direction on where to take them afterwards.
Then Bush shows up on Thursday and tells Brownie he’s doing a “heckuva job”. Then he tells the national TV cameras that (1) no one could have predicted this type of disaster, and (2) they just learned of the plight of the people at the superdome a few hours ago.
The national reporters, even those on Fox news who are sympathetic to Bush, were rather shocked by both of those comments. It has been well known for decades by anyone who cared to casually look at the issue that New Orleans was vulnerable to a catagory 3 storm, much less a catagory 4 or 5 storm. And anybody who turned on the TV on Monday evening would have also nown of the problems at the Superdome, and it just got worse hourly from there. The Superdome was meant to handle a large number of people for a short period of time, not for days, and not when the plumbing system doesn’t work due to the flood.
That is when it became apparant to even the conservative Republicans – Pres. Bush is an idiot, completely out of touch beyond what info his handlers feed him. The emporer wears no clothes.
Subsequent facts arising afterwards revealed that this wasn’t just a case of botched communications, or mere incompetence by low-ranking employees at FEMA. As Goldy first pointed out, Brownie was superbly un-qualified to do his job, a low-level political hack who could be relied upon to keep be sufficiently grateful for his job to not make waves while they dismantled his organization around him. It reminds me of the guy in the movie “Wall Street”, played by Charlie Sheen, who became the figurehead President of the airline while it was being dismantled.
More information which came out later showed Brownie was more concerned about his appearances on TV and having a nice quiet dinner in a restaurant than he was about fixing the problems. And even more details emerged about the Republican plan to dismantel FEMA from the moment Bush took office, transferring its duties (but no funding) to local agencies (more unfunded mandates), but preserving the ability to issue no-bid “emergency” contracts to private companies to handle actual disasters as they arose.
Let’s never forget that while the Katrina/Rita hurricanes were natural occurances, the subsequent disaster was multiplied by the intentional and reckless conduct of the Republicans, the neo-conservatives, and the Bush administration in dismanteling the one federal agency which was designed to assist in this type of emergency.
If this was a corporation rather than the national government, they and their corp. officers could be prosecuted for reckless disregard for the safety of others for which they had a duty to protect, resulting in death (i.e., manslaughter).
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Kirokingspews:
#16
Got it, the wind storm last thursday was “bush’s fault”.
Emily spews:
I hope you’ve drained the water out of your water pipes so they don’t freeze. It’s really a bummer when that happens.
righton spews:
Outrageous we don’t have diversity of blackouts; i mean the urban “minorities” got power before the vast unwashed masses of soccer moms and dads…
We need a special commission to fix this preference system that benefits Seattle..
RightEqualsStupid spews:
Amazing – the right wing asslickers are attacking our Governor because she wants the people to decide on the Alaskan Way project. Will the righties ever be happy? Of course not.
Note they are always running to that conman Timmy Lieman to ask for a referendum on this or that, claiming it’s up to the PEOPLE to decide. So when Chris sets up the same situation, it’s a failure of leadership?
These baby-raping, asshole-licking republicans are as intellectually dishonest as they are inbred.
righton spews:
or rightequalsstupid… you could also ask…
where is the governor amidst our cold/power crisis? all those stupid issues you all made up trying to pin Katrina on Bush…
we’re dark and cold and she’s out making speeches, announcements that have nothing to do with our comfort and even safety (immigrants dying from asphyxiation; others from (stupidly) running generators indoors)
where was she and what did she know?
Wonderful World of Diebold spews:
Roger Rabbit says:
38 Keep living in your wingnut fantasy world. I don’t care.
12/17/2006 at 8:55 pm
You tell em Rabbit. Hey did you our Vacation package yet?
RightEqualsStupid spews:
I hear that WHATADICK CHENEY was behind our power outage – payback I guess because we had the good sense to vote D. He just called his buddies in the energy business and said, screw em.
RightEqualsStupid spews:
I hear that WHATADICK CHENEY was behind our power outage – payback I guess because we had the good sense to vote D. He just called his buddies in the energy business and said, screw em.
Roger Rabbit spews:
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Wrong Again, as usual, is impermeable to both information and reason.
Roger Rabbit spews:
5 Hey did you our Vacation package yet?
WTF??! does this mean?
rhp6033 spews:
Goldie, returning to the subject of whether the poor are suffering disproportianately in the power outages.
We used to live in Edmonds, almost on the county line. We suffered power outages frequently, almost every year or so. Sometimes the power was restored in a few hours, sometimes it took several days.
But ten years or so ago we moved to Everett, and we haven’t had a power outage of more than a few minutes since we have lived there.
The difference? I think its because we now live in a relatively large subdivision with underground utilities. This is required for the construction of most new subdivisions in Snohomish County. Power lines which are underground can’t be damaged by falling trees or limbs.
Of course, there is nothing that can protect us from a large sub-station being taken out, or high-tension feeder lines to those sub-stations being blown down. But older homes, especially those in lower-middle class (working class) neighborhoods, all have overhead lines. This means that in addition to solving the big problems, the electrical crews have to go down each street, fixing a multitude of smaller problems before each house can get power.
My Left Foot spews:
Righton @ 4:
I guess you forgot about “Great job, Brownie”
Forgot about the thousands we all saw pleading, and some dying while waiting, for help that took 5 days to get to the biggest fucking building in New Orleans.
Forgot about how the federal government rushed in, days too late, with a clusterfuck system of debit cards. No thought given on how to control them.
Forgot about millions of dollars wasted to park cruise ships in the harbor that no one used.
Forgot about thousands upon thousands of trailers that still sit unused.
Fogot about the federal rebuilding funds/loans that are nearly impossible get because of all the red tape.
Forgot about how we all saw it on TV, with our own eyes. You are like Groucho Marx asking “Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?”
Forgot about, just to remind you, that it took five (one day for each finger on your hand) for substantial help to arrive. Why? Because federal agencies were not poorly coordinated, they were completely uncoordinated. They refused to talk with each other, common sense was completely lacking. As a result, Righton, people died needlessly.
How is that for some made up stuff about Bush. He is the president, he is the decider (his words, not mine) and the responsibility is his. That is why you motherfuckers lost the last election.
Funny, Righton, how that fucking works.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Gee Goldy, I’m sorry you still don’t have power. I’d invite you to stay at my burrow … but I don’t think you’d fit in here, and besides — it being the holiday tree season and all — I have several thousand of my children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, great-great-grandchildren, great-great-great-grandchildren, etc., visiting so it’s kinda crowded down here. Cheers, Roger.
rhp6033 spews:
re: 10
Goldy, not Goldie. I didn’t meant it as an insult, I just wasn’t paying that much attention as I typed.
rhp6033 spews:
Goldy;
Seattle City Light expects everyone to have power by midnight tonight.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....r18ww.html
Post # 1 has a good point about the water. I suspect that if your pipes haven’t frozen yet they won’t do it before tonight. But if it looks like you will go another night without power, turn off the main water supply to your house (I hope you know where the valve is), and then purge the water from each of the faucets. After you get power back and the house warms up a bit, open the main valve and then turn on the faucets one at a time, in order to purge air from the pipes.
rhp6033 spews:
MMLF at 11: I really think the Thursday after Katrina was the turning point for the Bush administration.
For days, beginning on that Monday after the hurricane hit, national reporters had been documenting the deteriorating conditions at the Superdome and the plight of those in the flood-stricken neighborhoods, trying to find a way to get to safety, and to find food and water. They kept asking – when is FEMA going to arrive?
The immediate rescue efforts all seem to have been privately driven. A lot of people make fun of the Scots-Irish descendents who populate much of the working class of the south, calling them “rednecks”. But I grew up among those folks, and I wasn’t surprised when I saw that they didn’t wait for instructions from anybody – they just put their fishing boats in the water and started saving people from rooftops. What they didn’t have was any direction on where to take them afterwards.
Then Bush shows up on Thursday and tells Brownie he’s doing a “heckuva job”. Then he tells the national TV cameras that (1) no one could have predicted this type of disaster, and (2) they just learned of the plight of the people at the superdome a few hours ago.
The national reporters, even those on Fox news who are sympathetic to Bush, were rather shocked by both of those comments. It has been well known for decades by anyone who cared to casually look at the issue that New Orleans was vulnerable to a catagory 3 storm, much less a catagory 4 or 5 storm. And anybody who turned on the TV on Monday evening would have also nown of the problems at the Superdome, and it just got worse hourly from there. The Superdome was meant to handle a large number of people for a short period of time, not for days, and not when the plumbing system doesn’t work due to the flood.
That is when it became apparant to even the conservative Republicans – Pres. Bush is an idiot, completely out of touch beyond what info his handlers feed him. The emporer wears no clothes.
Subsequent facts arising afterwards revealed that this wasn’t just a case of botched communications, or mere incompetence by low-ranking employees at FEMA. As Goldy first pointed out, Brownie was superbly un-qualified to do his job, a low-level political hack who could be relied upon to keep be sufficiently grateful for his job to not make waves while they dismantled his organization around him. It reminds me of the guy in the movie “Wall Street”, played by Charlie Sheen, who became the figurehead President of the airline while it was being dismantled.
More information which came out later showed Brownie was more concerned about his appearances on TV and having a nice quiet dinner in a restaurant than he was about fixing the problems. And even more details emerged about the Republican plan to dismantel FEMA from the moment Bush took office, transferring its duties (but no funding) to local agencies (more unfunded mandates), but preserving the ability to issue no-bid “emergency” contracts to private companies to handle actual disasters as they arose.
Let’s never forget that while the Katrina/Rita hurricanes were natural occurances, the subsequent disaster was multiplied by the intentional and reckless conduct of the Republicans, the neo-conservatives, and the Bush administration in dismanteling the one federal agency which was designed to assist in this type of emergency.
If this was a corporation rather than the national government, they and their corp. officers could be prosecuted for reckless disregard for the safety of others for which they had a duty to protect, resulting in death (i.e., manslaughter).
Kiroking spews:
#16
Got it, the wind storm last thursday was “bush’s fault”.
Kiroking spews:
oops #15