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Open Thread 12/7

by Carl Ballard — Wednesday, 12/7/11, 7:56 am

– You mean there was drug use on Capitol Hill before Occupy Seattle got there?

– Good job, Rob McKenna.

– This is not just the case for my family. I know I speak for many other hard working black, brown, and even poor white families who have the same experiences in the poor neighborhoods to look down upon from your elitist 1% out of touch pedestal. To say that an entire community “literally has no habit of showing up on Monday” or “they have no habit of staying all day” I say that is a load of shit. (h/t to Howie on Facebook)

– The worst thing Iran could do would be to get nuclear weapons and then not use them.

– Be bold.

– August has figured out the Republican primary.

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  1. 1

    JoJo spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 9:58 am

    Wow, Obama cheated to get on the Indiana Primary ballot in 2008. Looks like the principle cheater on his behalf actually worked in the Election Dept. Apparently the investigation is moving forward full-steam ahead thankfully. It’s so obvious, even the Democrats are forced to go along with the investigation. This will be tied to the same Chicago Election Fraud Machine and cast an ugly shadow on Obama. Trust is huge. Can you trust a guy who cheats like this?
    http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....-heats-up/

  2. 2

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 10:03 am

    @ 1

    Jesus, Anything from FOX is a lie. Anything. They could be doing a weather report, and it would be total bullshit.

    Don’t post links to them again you stupid, Silvershit retard.

  3. 3

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 10:06 am

    Thats supposed to be Silvershirt. But, still came out alright.

    The edit thingy doesn’t seem to be working right again.

  4. 4

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 10:30 am

    Gingrich’s comments about the poor and their supposed lack of work values were about as disgusting as it gets. Of course, he spoke in wingnut code about people of color and I’m white. But as someone who grew up extremely poor and started work at 6 years old mowing lawns in the housing projects, worked at 13 at a car wash on Rainier Avenue, a pizza place on MLK Jr. Way (then Empire Way) when I was 15, a steel mill when I was 16, delivered mail on campus and worked as a janitor at KIRO when I was 17, then a long career in engineering, those are fighting words.

    Say those words in front of me, Gingrich, and I’d have little choice but to kick your ass until you profusely and sincerely apologized.

  5. 5

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 10:34 am

    @1 posts as Jolo on this thread, Everett on the Drinking Liberally thread. We’ve all seen that tired act before. He should just be upfront and use “Dumbfuck Klown” as his next screen name.

  6. 6

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 11:17 am

    OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — During his 2004 campaign for attorney general, Rob McKenna vowed that he would use the position to curb how much state agencies pay out for major lawsuits. Instead, those costs have grown rapidly under his watch.

    Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/.....z1fsUqPTjG

    And then he goes on to blame it all on the Democratic legislature. McKenna’s really the victim in all this…

  7. 7

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 11:18 am

    @4

    Gingrich’s comments about the poor and their supposed lack of work values were about as disgusting as it gets.

    What about the values of people that can’t keep their dick in their pants?

  8. 8

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 11:31 am

    Good rebuttal to Newt.

    http://www.stlamerican.com/new.....963f4.html
    By George E. Curry, NNPA Columnist | 2 comments
    Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich launched a nuclear attack on the needy last week by using ugly stereotypes to argue that people are poor because they are lazy and the solution to widespread poverty is scrapping child labor laws and putting poor kids to work in menial jobs.
    He said in a speech in Council Bluffs, Iowa: “Start with the following two facts: Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works. So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of ‘I do this and you give me cash’ unless it’s illegal.”
    What planet does Gingrich live on?
    My entire childhood was spent in poverty and I can’t remember a time that my mother and stepfather didn’t have a job. In fact, I can’t remember a time when Mama didn’t have at least two jobs. I’ve held jobs since I was in the 6th grade, jobs that included cutting the grass of my elementary school principal, delivering newspapers, washing dishes at the University of Alabama while I was a student at Druid High School in Tuscaloosa, and working as a waiter on trains during Christmas breaks while enrolled at Knoxville College in Tennessee.

  9. 9

    ArtFart spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 12:00 pm

    When I hear someone like Gingrich talk like this, I find it difficult to avoid harboring a burning desire to see him clean a few toilets himself…with his tongue.

  10. 10

    dorky dorkman spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 12:07 pm

    re Gingrich ‘n’ Pals —

    Proverbs 21:13
    If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered.

    Do you think the ‘religious’ right understands this? I don’t. There is a justice in this world that moves as slowly and as inexhorably as a slow train carrying the weight of history behind it.

    People like Gingrich, who don’t know enough to get off the tracks, will spend an eternity in regret. If only we could speak to the Southerners after Sherman was through with them. Eat a peach, Newt!!

  11. 11

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 1:21 pm

    @8 It wasn’t like I was some exception to the rule. In fact, I didn’t work as hard as most people I knew to escape poverty. Nor did I have to be courageous. I’m far more impressed by what my black friends accomplished. Born into the world of Step-n-Fetchit, they weren’t going to take that shit. When we were in high school, they took a fucking stand,

    http://depts.washington.edu/ci.....anklin.htm

    So many of them went on to great success in life. I am so damned proud of them. I couldn’t possibly toot my own horn when I know such people as these. They overcame far more than just poverty.

    It isn’t that Gingrich is without a clue. No, like the rest of the leaders of the wingnuts, he’s just a despicable excuse for a human being.

  12. 12

    Blue John spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 1:22 pm

    Do you really want to hear Jesus say:
    “For I was jobless and you told me to ‘get a job’;
    I was homeless, and you called me a dirty hippie;
    I was destitute and you said unto me,
    ‘Helping you would only encourage a big government nanny state. Be patient, for surely my riches shall trickle down unto you.'”?

  13. 13

    rhp6033 spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 2:04 pm

    The article posted a few days ago, which included interviews with Gingrich in 1995, revealed that Newt Gingrich insisted that his wife (a teacher) support him in college, and when he needed more money he visited his step-father and insisted he needed to support him as well. Gingrich refused to go to work while he was in school, insisting that he needed to devote his full time to his education, which was the most important thing for everyone concerned.

    Until he obtained a professorship after obtaining his PhD in history, Newt hadn’t worked a day in his life. While he was a professer, though, he insisted that his wife should work to support his grander political ambitions. When she could no longer do so due to cancer, at that point he also concluded that she was too old and “provincial” to further his success in Washington, so he let her know he was going to divorce her. While she was in the hospital being treated for cancer.

  14. 14

    rhp6033 spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 2:20 pm

    Steve @ 4: My hat’s off to you. I didn’t start work until age 15. I can’t say my work was that hard, I worked as a lifeguard during the summers. It’s boring, but since it was an open pool it attracted quite a few teenage girls who wanted to show of their bikinis, it made for a fun summer and an active evening social life. A lot better than swinging a pickaxe for landscaping companies, like some of my friends.

    During the school year I worked on a loading dock of a textile factory.

    As an undergraduate, I raced through four years of college in three years (attending through the summer), and worked as a pizza cook, a short-order cook, a bartender, in a tropical fish store, as a courier for the campus computer center, etc. – all at below minium wage.

    I also worked at the university while in graduate school, and at internships during the summers. I went right to work the day after graduation.

  15. 15

    rhp6033 spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 2:32 pm

    In a memo to employee’s Southwest Airlines’s CEO warned of cost-cutting in the near future. He mentioned that as American Airlines emerges from Chapter 11 with significantly lower costs, it poses a challenge to Southwest Airline’s position as the low-cost leader within the U.S.

    Kelly warned Southwest has a cost challenge, “and one that looms large”.
    He explained next to fuel, labour is Southwest’s highest expenditure. “Our labour
    rates are now, far and away, the highest in the industry.”

    What B.S.

    Southwest isn’t unionized, and Kelly has to be using very creative accounting to claim that it’s labor rates are “the highest in the industry”. Moreover, Southwest still has other cost-savings advantages not shared by the other carriers: it flies only two types of airplanes (the MD-80, rapidly being phased out, and the Boeing 737). This cuts considerably it’s costs for spares inventory; repair costs and repair personnel certification costs; and flight-crew expenses for training and certification. And by avoiding the major hubs, it cuts it’s landing fee costs.

    Kelly is just trying to set up “crisis” scenario to justify cutting labor rates, reduce or eliminate pension benefits, etc., all to cure a non-existent problem. After he’s done Kelly will probably get a very big bonus, and the workers will get the shaft.

  16. 16

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 2:44 pm

    My dad was a commercial fisherman (Among other things. When I was a kid every adult male in my neighborhood was a something/commercial fisherman) and we had friends and family with farms, so there was no getting out of work for me. But, most of the time I was helping out with the “fun stuff,” there were other kids around, and we weren’t putting in 8 hour days. It was all good, heathy, learning how to be a grownup stuff.

    I got a paper route in the 6th grade and had other jobs from there on out. Most people I know have similar stories and their children are no different.

    Newt’s just a prick.

  17. 17

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 2:46 pm

    @13

    Until he obtained a professorship after obtaining his PhD in history, Newt hadn’t worked a day in his life

    If you can call being a professor of history working.

  18. 18

    rhp6033 spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 2:47 pm

    Gee, Rob McKenna’s promises when he ran for attorney general don’t seem to jive with his conduct as attorney general:

    “In his 2004 campaign, McKenna complained about the high costs being passed along to taxpayers. He said at the time that he would help the state avoid lawsuits by making sure “rogue bureaucrats” follow the law, and he wrote on his campaign website that his work would minimize big lawsuit payouts.

    Isn’t McKenna acting as a “rogue bureaucrat” in joining the lawsuit against health care reform, contrary to the wishes of the governor, the legislature, and a clear majority of Washington State citizens? What is the state’s liability for costs if he loses this lawsuit? Is his failure to do more to reign in other “rogue bureaucrats” due to staff time being spent on that one federal lawsuit, rather than spending time working the cases and settling them for lower sums?

    Nope, instead he simply wants to transfer the costs to the victims, by artificially limiting the state’s liability. After that he hoped he could point to lower payouts as evidence of his genious in managing his department. But it hasn’t worked.

  19. 19

    rhp6033 spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 2:52 pm

    Michael @ # 17: Well, I knew a few history professers who worked very hard. They put in quite a bit of time in lesson preparation, teaching class, grading papers, counseling students, setting up programs for pomising students, etc. They also did exhaustive research in their fields, published in professional journals, and wrote books.

    I also knew a few professers who palmed off most of their work to their graduate assistants and spent most of their free time trying to pick up undergraduate co-eds.

    It’s like most fields – some people work hard, and you don’t have to force them to do so. Others will work the system in place to avoid doing any more work than absolutely necessary, and passing as much of their work as possible to others. You find both kinds of people in almost any field, any company, any school.

  20. 20

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 2:52 pm

    Unless there’s some underling issue that wasn’t brought up in the article, I really hope this gets overturned.

    A U.S. District Court judge in Portland has drawn a line in the sand between “journalist” and “blogger.” And for Crystal Cox, a woman on the latter end of that comparison, the distinction has cost her $2.5 million.
    Speaking to Seattle Weekly, Cox says that the judgement could have impacts on bloggers everywhere.

    “This should matter to everyone who writes on the Internet,” she says.

    Cox runs several law-centric blogs, like industrywhistleblower.com, judicialhellhole.com, and obsidianfinancesucks.com, and was sued by investment firm Obsidian Finance Group in January for defamation, to the tune of $10 million, for writing several blog posts that were highly critical of the firm and its co-founder Kevin Padrick.

    Representing herself in court, Cox had argued that her writing was a mixture of facts, commentary and opinion (like a million other blogs on the web) and moved to have the case dismissed. Dismissed it wasn’t, however, and after throwing out all but one of the blog posts cited by Obsidian Financial, the judge ruled that this single post was indeed defamatory because it was presented, essentially, as more factual in tone than her other posts, and therefore a reasonable person could conclude it was factual.

    The judge ruled against Cox on that post and awarded $2.5 million to the investment firm.

    Now here’s where the case gets more important: Cox argued in court that the reason her post was more factual was because she had an inside source that was leaking her information. And since Oregon is one of 40 U.S. states including Washington with media shield laws, Cox refused to divulge who her source was.

    But without revealing her source Cox couldn’t prove that the statements she’d made in her post were true and therefore not defamation, or attribute them to her source and transfer the liability.

    The judge in Cox’s case, however, ruled that the woman did not qualify for shield-law protection not because of anything she wrote, but because she wasn’t employed by an official media establishment.
    http://blogs.seattleweekly.com.....er_isn.php

    As far as not being employed by “official media” who gets to define what that is? It looks to me like she’s a freelance journalist employed in the business of media.

  21. 21

    rhp6033 spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 3:02 pm

    Speaking of the Republican primaries:

    Remember when the Republicans used to make fun of Democratic candidates for the nomination as the “seven dwarfs”?

    Now the Republicans are trying to have a debate hosted by a reality-TV host and with only one candidate committed to attending.

    And that’s aside from all the utterly nonsense things the candidates spew from their mouths….

  22. 22

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 3:21 pm

    @19
    I meant that in the sense that being a welder, a heavy equipment operator, a grocery checker, is “harder work” than being a prof. Being a prof is a position of privilege. Newt’s spent his whole fucking life in positions of privilege.

  23. 23

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 3:42 pm

    “Steve @ 4: My hat’s off to you.”

    Thanks, but refer to @11. There’s nothing remarkable at all about what I did. I did leave out two stints as a landscape gardener, another job as a janitor and another as a clog in a machine at Longview Fibre, spitting out corrugated boxes (to say cardboard was a big no-no) – all before I turned 18. I cleaned more than a few nasty looking urinals and toilets in my youth. Fortunately for me, I didn’t have to use my tongue as we would have Gingrich do.

  24. 24

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 3:53 pm

    @23
    I spent two weeks as a temp at a cardboard box factory in the port of Tacoma when I was 18. After my two weeks were up, I didn’t inquire about getting on full time. Talk about hard, mind numbing, labor, and you got to breath air filled with cardboard dust.

  25. 25

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 3:54 pm

    @14 I hope you check out that link @11. When I say that my black friends said “Fuck that shit!”, I really mean to say that they said “Fuck that shit!”. I didn’t always agree with their actions, some of which I truly deplored, but they were my friends and I understood exactly where they were coming from. And you might also understand why I have no respect whatsofuckingever for a self-loathing black loon who would bend over for racists in hopes of receiving for a goddamned thirty-piece of silver tax cut.

  26. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 4:05 pm

    What does h/t mean? Hat tip?

  27. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 4:07 pm

    “The worst thing Iran could do would be to get nuclear weapons and then not use them.”

    When did you stupid humans ever go to the trouble and expense of building weapons with the intent of never using them? I ask this from my perspective as a higher form of animal life, of course.

  28. 28

    dorky dorkman spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 4:11 pm

    I performed feats of physical labor worthy of Paul Bunyan — and I didn’t stop until my mid 50’s. I can still work most 20 somethings into the ground within a few hours.

    I find it ridiculous when some of these chipmunk-jowled wingnut softies accuse me of being ‘too lazy’.

  29. 29

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 4:14 pm

    @24 That’s a hell of a job. I was between two huge machines. One machine continuously spit out cut, flat corrugated boxes that I had to hand-feed into another machine for printing. I didn’t last long.

  30. 30

    N in Seattle spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 4:32 pm

    @24:

    I spent two weeks as a temp at a cardboard box factory in the port of Tacoma when I was 18. After my two weeks were up, I didn’t inquire about getting on full time. Talk about hard, mind numbing, labor, and you got to breath air filled with cardboard dust.

    Now imagine the same sort of transfer-item-from-one-machine-to-another mindless work, except that the items are 4×8 sheets of drywall and the dust is gypsum. The machine-from milled the edges to even them up, exhausting the dust into the air. The machine-to put that tape on the edges.

    This was in the late 60s, so of course there was no such thing as a mask. At lunchtime on my eighth day on that summer job, covered in white dust, I told the foreman that I wasn’t coming back for the afternoon (or ever again). He shrugged. I left.

  31. 31

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 4:34 pm

    @ Steve,

    I’ll share a business secret with you. Any time I can hire or contract with a reasonably successful African-American born and working before 1968 I usually do. If one can overcome and be successful in our environment they can do most anything exceptionally well. If they did/do it in the southeast, bonus. If they did it as a woman, bonus. You can figure out the higher order math here.

  32. 32

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 4:47 pm

    @31 I like that. Thanks for sharing.

  33. 33

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 4:51 pm

    @30 That sounds like really hard work. There’s a reason why I went into engineering. I spend half my time at work shooting the shit with people. That’s actually part of my job. Compared to what others have to do to earn a living, it’s not real work at all.

  34. 34

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 5:13 pm

    I’ll just add to the thread here that Steve started with his link to The Franklin High School Sit-in.

    There’s always something in today’s wingnut dominated universe to lead to despair. But in my lifetime I have seen, albeit far too slow, a dramatic shift in policy and attitudes about racism. I’ve seen dramatic shifts in policy and attitude about homosexuals. Granted, we are not home yet, but we are moving forward.

    For those of you who are younger and still have the benefit of a full head of hair, you are living at the beginning of the 2nd Progressive epoch; #OWS.

    We Shall Overcome.
    We Are Not Afraid.
    We Shall All Be Free.
    Someday. When we walk hand-in-hand.

    Someday comes sooner if we all work together on the things we all believe, deep in our heart.

    Never forget, The People United Will NEVER Be Defeated.

  35. 35

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 5:22 pm

    @29

    We had almost the same job.

    Where I worked, a machine stamped out the shape of a box out of piece of cardboard and spat it out. I took that cardboard and fed it into a folder. Like I said, I lasted two weeks. I really hope that job is automated now, it really sucked.

  36. 36

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 5:26 pm

    @30

    People got “white lung” from working with crap like that. Eesh.

    Stuff like we’re talking about here is why I vote for Democrats. I know how hard these jobs are. These folks struggle at hard ass jobs for low pay and then the Republicans and the bosses want to call them lazy and kick them in the teeth.

  37. 37

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 5:40 pm

    In the interest of Clown Car Comedy, I recommend you read/listen to the eventual GOP nominee’s mastery of the Affordable Care Act when being interviewed by a not-liberal.
    Transcript of our interview with Mitt Romney


    PHILIP KLEIN: You’ve said that on day one of your presidency, you would grant Obamacare waivers to all 50 states, as you pursue full repeal. But under the language of the health care law, waivers are subject to a number of restrictions, and wouldn’t apply until the year 2017. So what immediate and specific relief would your executive order provide for individuals and businesses, assuming it’s issued on January 20, 2013?

    ROMNEY: Well, I will certainly pursue repeal, and that’s something which will occur if we have a Republican House and a Republican Senate, my guess is it could be done pretty close to day one. If that’s not the case, and I have to go through the waiver process, we will do our best.

    Our lawyers think that providing a state a waiver that we will be able to conform with the law and that the state would be able to opt out of the system, but if a lawsuit ensues, and it takes months to sort it out, well during that time hopefully we will have the bill repealed. I think people recognize that if I’m elected President of the United States, that we are not going to have Obamacare with its full panoply of benefits and costs. The American people don’t want it. I don’t want it. And we’ll repeal it. And if the waiver process is able to successfully stop it in its tracks, as we think it will, great. It doesn’t stop everything of course. Some elements go on. The tax being collected and so forth, that you can’t get out of that by waiver – it requires the ultimate repeal.

    KLEIN: But what do your lawyers think as to why these waivers could take place, because I have the law here, and it says that it applies on January 1, 2017 – under the “waiver for state innovation.”

    ROMNEY: When you say “it” — “it applies”?

    KLEIN: The “waiver for state innovation” — under section 1332.

    ROMNEY: The waiver for state innovation?

    KLEIN: Yes, that’s the waiver that I believe that you’re talking about when you talk about state waivers. That’s what your campaign has said.

    ROMNEY: Oh, they say it’s that in particular?

    KLEIN: Yeah.

    ROMNEY: Then I’d have to have Ben Ginsberg, our lawyer, sit down. If you really want to go into that and tell you what — if that’s important to you, we’ll have Ben Ginsberg give you a call and talk about what provision of the law we would seek to employ.

    Yeah, this is the serious GOP candidate. LOL!

  38. 38

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 5:45 pm

    Submitted for inclusion in the Friday Multi-meida Extravaganza

    Romney-Gekko 2012: “It’s Morning on Wall Street”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mju_2nHep_s

  39. 39

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 5:55 pm

    This is seriously fucked up.

    Grinch steals Christmas gifts from Wishing Star
    KXLY Broadcast Group, 92.9 ZZU Christmas Wish to donate $1,500 to Wishing Star
    Rob Kauder | Internet Content Manager, KXLY.com
    Posted: 11:07 am PST December 7, 2011
    Updated: 5:01 pm PST December 7, 2011

    SPOKANE, Wash. — Wishing Star will be granting a few less wishes to children with life-threatening illnesses after they were robbed Wednesday morning, the second time in a month.
    The organization reported this morning a thief came through a window in the front door, and stole Christmas gifts for three families. In all, more than $1,000 in goods have been stolen from Wishing Star recently.
    Previously they were looking for assistance to help find gifts for five families, but since presents for three families were stolen, they are now looking for help for eight families.

  40. 40

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 5:58 pm

    @39 Michael,

    Criminals are, by definition, stupid.
    Petty criminals are by far the stupidest.

    This asshat will be apprehended, tried and convicted and meet some nice amorous fellow inmate who likely has a well needing relative and get the punishment such an asshat deserves.

    Karma. It’s what’s coming your way. :-D

  41. 41

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 6:02 pm

    @37
    OMG, that’s… funny… in an that’s so sad it isn’t even funny sorta way.

    Mitt’s just going though the motions. I don’t think he really wants it. Gingrich was on the Tee-Vee this morning talking about what a nice guy Mitt is. Gingrich doesn’t want it and he’s trying to get Mitt back in the leaders spot. It’s really sad.

  42. 42

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 7:46 pm

    Go Lynnwood!

    This is some awesome BMX riding.

    http://vimeo.com/32232684

  43. 43

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 9:26 pm

    @ 42

    Holy shit, I know some of those dudes.

  44. 44

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 10:38 pm

    @43
    That’s some serious air your friends are catching. That course looks freaking amazing.

  45. 45

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/7/11 at 10:58 pm

    HA!

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_n.....r-own-name
    The Southern Baptist Convention, the nation’s largest Protestant denomination and spiritual home to two living former presidents of the United States, is researching whether to change its name because of the public’s negative associations with the church.
    The news is mixed, at best: Forty percent of Americans have an unfavorable view of Southern Baptists, according to survey results released Wednesday by LifeWay Research, the SBC’s research foundation.

  46. 46

    puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 1:15 am

    Proverbs 21:13

    Hey Headless Dorkman@10… I remember seeing this on Wisconsin libtardo blogs from September. Same use as yours today!

  47. 47

    puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 1:38 am

    Wow rhp6033 is still using that old leftist meme

    When she could no longer do so due to cancer, at that point he also concluded that she was too old and “provincial” to further his success in Washington, so he let her know he was going to divorce her. While she was in the hospital being treated for cancer.

    From his daughter herself…

    My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested.

    Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother.

    She had undergone surgery the day before to remove a tumor.

    The tumor was benign.

    As with many divorces, it was hard and painful for all involved, but life continued.

    Did you get that from your daily Cass Sunstein email? Do you actually read and process facts or do you live vicariously reading left wing puke sites?

    No wonder you have no clue what I said and when. You can’t read truth when it’s been delivered multiple times on this blog!

    Keep repeating the same meme. It’s the DUMMOCRAPT way.

    Next well read from rhp6033 real soon Gingrich was convicted on ethics charges.

    Just for rhp6033. Maybe this will help him… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benign_tumor

  48. 48

    puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 1:49 am

    And you might also understand why I have no respect whatsofuckingever for a self-loathing black loon who would bend over for racists in hopes of receiving for a goddamned thirty-piece of silver tax cut.

    Well dipshit how do you really feel. Born and partially raised in Philly I saw what DUMMOCRAPTS did with the influx of great society money. Absolutely nothing. The old neighborhood is in worse shape than it was when I left. Years of DUMMOCRAPTIC rule and nothing to show for it. What grand proposal has ObamAA+ proposed for inner city youth? None! Maxine Waters has taken ObamAA+ to task about it.

    I also noted Jesse Jackson has nothing to say about Newt Gingrich’s comments, while Al Sharpton has. Al has to. He’s on PMSNBC. But if you actually listen to what Al has said it’s a bunch of empty words. What has Ol Al done to help his people all these years? Just lined his pockets. Even my big time big bro dislikes Al and what he represents.

    So keep screaming Stupid Solution Steve. You support DUMMOCRAPTIC policies that kill off my people at ever increasing rates. ABORTION! Abortion in the inner city is so high and so sad. All those future DUMMOCRAPT voters vacuumed out each day.

  49. 49

    puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 1:59 am

    Any time I can hire or contract with a reasonably successful African-American born and working before 1968 I usually do.

    What does reasonably successful person mean? How do you qualify reasonably successful? Who’s frame of reference? A Cadillac? Clean shoes? A cheap polyester suit? No dandruff? Can articulate his/her words? No slang? Hmmm… I wonder what MikeBoyScout means!

    Bonus question… What events happened in 1968 in black culture? Oh you have to Google it?

    I’m so sure Stupid Solution Steve knows this without looking it up! He’s such a class act when it comes to black history. Sheeeeeeeeit… He already claimed he was blacker than me. Don’t remember the comment? I recently reposted it~

  50. 50

    Steve spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 6:16 am

    “Sheeeeeeeeit…”

    A self-loather pretending he’s still black and that he hasn’t sold out. The self-loather isn’t half the man that the blacks I’ve known have become. They are deserving of my highest respect. The self-loather is deserving of none whatsofuckingever.

    The self-loather can go fuck himself to death with his sockpuppet’s dick for all I care. If he doesn’t like my death wish, tough fucking shit. He gets absolutely no respect from me, only my utter, complete contempt. And if he ever gets in my face, he’ll get far worse than that, but only what he has coming to him for selling out his race for thirty pieces of silver. And I’ll also give him what he has coming to him for his ugly hatred of our country.

    He’s no black man. He knows no pride. He’s just a self-fucking-loather who sold out cheap.

    You all better ban this useless bitch before I decide to get mean on his self-loathing, lily-white-sold-out ass.

  51. 51

    Steve spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 6:27 am

    “Sheeeeeeeeit…”

    WTF is this? Can this self-loather possibly be any more denigrating towards blacks? Yes, he can. Ironically, a self-loather hates himself more than anything else. The hate he aims at others is missing the target, which should be himself.

    The pathetic projection and denial of a self-loather. It’s obviously a Psych 101 thing.

  52. 52

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 10:37 am

    Well well well,

    Once again Stupid Solution Steve has lost it. Has no comeback to facts. So act the Saul Alinsky way.

    Ad hominem attack.
    Ad hominem attack.
    Ad hominem attack.

    If Stupid Solution Steve was a hero to the black cause then he’d be trumpeting studies like this… Has anyone ever seen anything like this from Stupid Solution Steve?

    Or this article about Planned Parenthood. Ask the crazed databaze deala how many times I have railed about Margaret Sanger, her race views about eugenics and light skinned people being superior, and Planned Parenthood Clinics? Wait… you’ll never ask cause you ain’t black. You don’t qualify as a wanna be either. You qualify as an idiot!

    Or maybe this shocking report caught Stupid Solution Steve by surprise? I doubt it cause he still goosesteps to the same DUMMOCRAPTIC meme!

    BTW idiot, I left the reservation because I love myself. You’ll never understand self-loving blacks yearn for freedom, not being penned by any political culture that keeps them from succeeding. You’ll never understand I am disgusted by my people performing self genocide! It doesn’t seem to disgust you at all.

    I guess Stupid Solution Steve isn’t the black man he thinks he is after all. Can’t deliver the historical events of 1968 without Google. Well he is older and probably as brain dead as Roger DOPEY Rabbit!

    See ya moron. Yeah it’s all about projection. You project lunacy on HA perfectly!

    The Prosecution Rests Your Honor. He is a moron!

  53. 53

    Rujax! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 10:44 am

    52. Puddybud spews:

    Well well well,

    Once again Stupid Solution Steve has lost it. Has no comeback to facts. So act the Saul Alinsky way.

    Ad hominem attack.
    Ad hominem attack.
    Ad hominem attack.

    If Stupid Solution Steve was a hero to the black cause then he’d be trumpeting studies like this… Has anyone ever seen anything like this from Stupid Solution Steve?

    Or this article about Planned Parenthood. Ask the crazed databaze deala how many times I have railed about Margaret Sanger, her race views about eugenics and light skinned people being superior, and Planned Parenthood Clinics? Wait… you’ll never ask cause you ain’t black. You don’t qualify as a wanna be either. You qualify as an idiot!

    Or maybe this shocking report caught Stupid Solution Steve by surprise? I doubt it cause he still goosesteps to the same DUMMOCRAPTIC meme!

    BTW idiot, I left the reservation because I love myself. You’ll never understand self-loving blacks yearn for freedom, not being penned by any political culture that keeps them from succeeding. You’ll never understand I am disgusted by my people performing self genocide! It doesn’t seem to disgust you at all.

    I guess Stupid Solution Steve isn’t the black man he thinks he is after all. Can’t deliver the historical events of 1968 without Google. Well he is older and probably as brain dead as Roger DOPEY Rabbit!

    See ya moron. Yeah it’s all about projection. You project lunacy on HA perfectly!

    The Prosecution Rests Your Honor. He is a moron!

    12/08/2011 at 10:37 am

    Fucking dumbass is at it again…or still at it.

    THis is one obsessive-compulsive mother fucker.

  54. 54

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 10:49 am

    Now this is quite interesting… Yep, Schultz is a big time DUMMOCRAPT so naturally he’d attract Paula Boggs, a big time ObamAA+ supporter.

  55. 55

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 10:51 am

    I notice rujax has no clue of black history either. How quaint… How sad… How stupid…

    rujax and Stupid Solution Steve… so similar in so many ways!

  56. 56

    Rujax! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 10:51 am

    PS…

    52. Puddybud spews:

    Or this article about Planned Parenthood. Ask the crazed databaze deala how many times I have railed about Margaret Sanger, her race views about eugenics and light skinned people being superior, and Planned Parenthood Clinics? Wait… you’ll never ask cause you ain’t black. You don’t qualify as a wanna be either. You qualify as an idiot!

    12/08/2011 at 10:37 am

    Race

    W. E. B. Du Bois served on the board of Sanger’s Harlem clinic.[81]Sanger believed that lighter-skinned races were superior to darker-skinned races, but would not tolerate bigotry among her staff, nor any refusal to work within interracial projects.[82] Although Sanger’s views on race appear archaic from a modern viewpoint, her contemporaries in the African-American community supported her efforts. In 1929, James H. Hubert, a black social worker and leader of New York’s Urban League, asked Sanger to open a clinic in Harlem.[83] Sanger secured funding from the Julius Rosenwald Fund and opened the clinic, staffed with African-American doctors, in 1930. The clinic was directed by a 15-member advisory board consisting of African-American doctors, nurses, clergy, journalists, and social workers. The clinic was publicized in the African-American press and African-American churches, and received the approval of W. E. B. Du Bois, founder of the NAACP.[84] Sanger’s work with minorities earned praise from Martin Luther King, Jr., in his 1966 acceptance speech for the Margaret Sanger award.[85]

    From 1939 to 1942 Sanger was an honorary delegate of the Birth Control Federation of America, which included a supervisory role – alongside Mary Lasker and Clarence Gamble – in the Negro Project, an effort to deliver birth control to poor African Americans.[86] Sanger wanted the Negro Project to include black ministers in leadership roles, but other supervisors did not. To emphasize the benefits of involving black community leaders, she wrote to Gamble “we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” This quote has been used by numerous Sanger detractors, including Angela Davis and the pro-life movement, to support their claims that Sanger was racist.[87] However, according to New York University’s Margaret Sanger Papers Project, Sanger, in writing that letter, “recognized that elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow South, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim.”[

    There’s an idiot here all right and it’s not Steve.

  57. 57

    Rujax! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 10:53 am

    55. Puddybud spews:

    I notice rujax has no clue of black history either. How quaint… How sad… How stupid…

    rujax and Stupid Solution Steve… so similar in so many ways!

    12/08/2011 at 10:51 am

    Like I said….there’s an idiot here.

  58. 58

    Rujax! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 10:55 am

    The puddywuddyduddypussy is probably one of those nitwits that thinks the moon landidngs were faked.

  59. 59

    Rujax! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 11:00 am

    I guess we can add Margaret Sanger to the monsters under puddywuddyduddypusy’s bed along with Cass Sunstein and ylb…

    …hahahahahahaha!

  60. 60

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 11:09 am

    Gee, Puddy wants to defend Gingrich’s ethics? You want to rely upon the tumor ending up being “benign”, or that Gingrich only signed an admission of ethics violation and agreed to reprimand, rather than being “convicted”????

    Good luck with that.

    While you are at it, why don’t you explain how Gingrich was fined $30,000 by the ethics committee, which was paid from a $30,000 “loan” from Bob Dole. Dole and Gingrich have never been friends – Dole despised the guy. But at the time Dole had already left the Senate and was working for a law firm which had considerable lobbying contracts with some big corporations.

    When it comes to ethics, Newt keeps digging himself deeper and deeper. Pretty soon he’s going to reach the gates of hell, and he’ll try to take it over from Satan.

    Oh, and I mentioned before that Gingrich doesn’t have a lot of friends from among the Republican leadership in Congress. John Boener was one of those instrumental in getting Gingrich out of the speaker’s position. Fitting, since Newt led the charge to get Wright out of the speaker’s chair, expressing outrage that Wright was doing the same things which Gingrich did (getting an illegal contribution disguised as an “advance” on a book).

  61. 61

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 11:28 am

    Yes there is an idiot born every microsecond. In rujax case he took a whole day from other “idiots”. From the same article…

    As part of her efforts to promote birth control, Sanger found common cause with proponents of eugenics, believing that they both sought to “assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit.”[71] Sanger was a proponent of negative eugenics, a social philosophy which claims that human hereditary traits can be improved through social intervention. Sanger’s eugenic policies included an exclusionary immigration policy, free access to birth control methods and full family planning autonomy for the able-minded, and compulsory segregation or sterilization for the profoundly retarded.[72][73] In her book The Pivot of Civilization, she advocated coercion to prevent the “undeniably feeble-minded” from procreating.[74] Although Sanger supported negative eugenics, she asserted that eugenics alone was not sufficient, and that birth control was essential to achieve her goals.[75][76][77]

    So let’s see… rujax is saying because DuBois supported Sanger it’s okay? Well not to other blacks…

    Prior to 1939, Sanger’s “outreach to the black community was largely limited to her Harlem clinic and speaking at black churches.”35 Her vision for “the reproductive practices of black Americans” expanded after the January 1939 merger of the Clinical Research Bureau and the American Birth Control League to form the Birth Control Federation of America. She selected Dr. Clarence J. Gamble, of the soap-manufacturing company Procter and Gamble, to be the BCFA regional director of the South.

    Gamble wrote a memorandum in November 1939 entitled “Suggestions for the Negro Project,” in which he recognized that “black leaders might regard birth control as an extermination plot.” He suggested black leaders be placed in positions where it would appear they were in charge.36

    Regarding WEB DuBois, he was a black separatist, Commie lover (Joined the US Commie Party), and disagreed with Booker T. Washington. Did you ever read is posthumous autobiography rujax? Doubt it. I’m sure rujax agrees with this DuBois quote

    “The Mass of Ignorant Negroes still breed carelessly and disastrously, so that the increase among Negroes, even more than the increase among whites, is from the portion of the population least intelligent and fit, and least able to rear their children properly.”

    How would that be met in the black community today rujax?

    Ignorant of history rujax runs to WikiPedia instead of black publications.

  62. 62

    Rujax! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 11:30 am

    http://news.firedoglake.com/20.....-money-is/

    Corzine on MF Global Depositor Funds: “I simply do not know where the money is”

    By: David Dayen Thursday December 8, 2011 6:55 am

    Former Senator Jon Corzine faces a House Agriculture Committee panel today, where he will testify that he doesn’t know “where the money is” from customer accounts that was used by his former company, MF Global, to trade on the company account.

    Joe Weisenthal points us in the direction of Corzine’s testimony, which he will give without pleading the 5th Amendment, despite still being liable for criminal charges in the MF Global case. Here’s the key section:

    Maybe they should waterboard the asshole until he figures it out.

  63. 63

    Rujax! Celebratine the MASTER BULLSHITIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 11:38 am

    61. Puddybud spews:

    Yes there is an idiot born every microsecond. In rujax case he took a whole day from other “idiots”. From the same article…

    Ignorant of history rujax runs to WikiPedia instead of black publications.

    12/08/2011 at 11:28 am

    A litle twist here, a little lie there…some wacky religionist clap-twaddle, and ‘voila!!!

    We’d got another pudywuddyduddypussy anti-intellectual “has a lot of words and says absoutely nothing” comment.

    Beautiful style, man. Maybe the Newt ought to hire you!

    “If you can’t blind ’em with brilliance, baffle ’em with bullshit(tium).”

    the puddywuddyduddypussy has NO EQUAL at that!!!

  64. 64

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 11:41 am

    Did you see how in his zeal to copy WikiPedia, rujax missed the salient point?

    Sanger believed that lighter-skinned races were superior to darker-skinned races

    Amazing… so rujax are you a broad nosed dark skinned black man? If so Sanger did not like you!

    Notice in #63 rujax is devoid of facts as always?

  65. 65

    YLB spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 11:43 am

    How typical of the insane right to “discover” the charlatan that’s always been in their midst: Gingrich..

    Of course they don’t remember the polls from way back in the 90’s..

    The country couldn’t stand the guy.. They won’t like him this time either.

  66. 66

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 11:51 am

    Oh my rhp6033… Nope you dope… Factual historical documentation if you please…

    All ethics violations against Gingrich were dropped.
    I didn’t write the article.

    Butt wait… Gingrich didn’t violate any tax laws either… I didn’t write the article.

    You wrote above

    When she could no longer do so due to cancer, at that point he also concluded that she was too old and “provincial” to further his success in Washington, so he let her know he was going to divorce her. While she was in the hospital being treated for cancer.

    His daughter wrote

    My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested. Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother. She had undergone surgery the day before to remove a tumor. The tumor was benign. As with many divorces, it was hard and painful for all involved, but life continued.

    You now write

    You want to rely upon the tumor ending up being “benign”

    Is your account the one we need to believe or their daughter’s?

    Oh, and I mentioned before that Gingrich doesn’t have a lot of friends from among the Republican leadership in Congress.

    What does that have to do with a historical factual presentation? Sheeeesh another factual moron!

    Can you stop reading left wing kookaid and process facts rhp6033?

  67. 67

    Rujax! Celebrating the MASTER BULLSHITTIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 11:56 am

    64. Puddybud spews:

    Did you see how in his zeal to copy WikiPedia, rujax missed the salient point?

    Sanger believed that lighter-skinned races were superior to darker-skinned races

    Amazing… so rujax are you a broad nosed dark skinned black man? If so Sanger did not like you!

    Notice in #63 rujax is devoid of facts as always?

    12/08/2011 at 11:41 am

    Only a moron like the puddywuddyduddypussy would care about a comment…and condemn an entire organization, all of it’s history and all of the good and caring people who ever worked for or with it…Only a moron like the puddywuddyduddypussy would care about a comment…that was and is clearly wrong from a person who is clearly…dead.

    The remark by Ms. Sanger informs the ideals of the Planned Parenthood Organization about as much as the pledge to uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States informs the actions of the Republican legislators in the US Congress…that is, NOT AT ALL.

    Majorly epic fayle puddywuddydudypussy.

  68. 68

    Rujax! Celebrating the MASTER BULLSHITTIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 12:01 pm

    66. Puddybud spews:

    Oh my rhp6033… Nope you dope… Factual historical documentation if you please…

    (snip…thank god…)

    What does that have to do with a historical factual presentation? Sheeeesh another factual moron!

    Can you stop reading left wing kookaid and process facts rhp6033?

    12/08/2011 at 11:51 am

    SHIT!!!

    This one’s even better than @61…

    the puddywuddyduddypussy is REALLY on a roll today!

    the puddywuddyduddypussy is farting out the bullshittium as fast as his little bowels can make it.

    Would puddywuddyduddypussy care for more beans???

  69. 69

    Rujax! Celebrating the MASTER BULLSHITTIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 12:06 pm

    Ann Coulter On ‘A List: Dallas’: Liberals Would Abort Gay Babies

    First Posted: 12/ 8/11 02:27 PM ET Updated: 12/ 8/11 02:33 PM ET

    Ann Coulter is at it again.

    In her upcoming appearance on Logo’s “A List: Dallas,” the conservative pundit told gay Republican cast member Taylor Garrett that it was in the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community’s best interests to be pro-life as “liberal yuppies” will start aborting their unborn gay children once scientists discover a gene for homosexuality.

    “The gays have got to be pro-life,” she tells Garrett over cocktails, as seen in the preview clip below. “As soon as they find the gay gene, guess who the liberal yuppies are gonna start aborting?”

    Of course, it’s not the first time Coulter has made characteristically provocative statements in regard to LGBT people. She dedicated a chapter titled “No Gays Left Behind!” in her 2007 book “If Democrats Had Any Brains, They’d Be Republicans” to the subject. In July, she appeared on “The Joy Behar Show” and came out in support of claims that LGBT people can “pray the gay away,” following allegations that GOP candidate Michele Bachmann’s husband’s clinic engaged in “ex-gay” reparative therapy.

    This is the pudywuddyduddypussy’s kind of girl.

    If you’re gonna ABORT…by teh jesus make it COUNT.

    Aboort those gay BABIES.

    How fucking sick is this person?

  70. 70

    Zotz sez: The word of the day is fellatiate. spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 12:16 pm

    @Rujax, just a suggestion: Try using pudenda instead of pussy. It means the same thing and better completes the alliteration.

    On the other hand, puddybud is really pretty good on its own:

    puddy (shit) bud (anal sphincter) = shittyanalsphincter

    Given that and his inane / insane posts, I’ve always had a sneaking suspicion that Pudpuller is really a sock puppet, like Michael’s Randroid and Some Republican Dullard characters.

  71. 71

    Rujax! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 12:56 pm

    zotz@70…

    Thanks for the suggestion!

    I am told that Puddybuddy has stopped by Drinking Liberally and those that have met him state that he is not as crazy as he appears in these comment threads.

    How could he be? The character that appears here is nuts. I really hope that he is not that way in real life.

  72. 72

    Steve spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 1:39 pm

    Sigh! One can humiliate a self-loather for only so long before boredom sets in, especially if the dumbfuck loon has been reduced to babbling about Margaret Sanger.

  73. 73

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 1:43 pm

    Ad hominem attacks. I love it. When you reduce a leftist pinhead to reading facts all they have left are ad hominem attacks.

    Keep up the great work you morons. You perfectly prove liberalism is a mental disorder.

  74. 74

    YLB spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 1:45 pm

    The pathological liar continues to debase the facts.

    ALL ethics charges against Gingrich were dropped?

    No silly. From that same link:

    The speaker’s office issued a statement noting that yesterday’s dismissal of the last three charges means that 83 of the 84 ethics allegations filed by Democrats have been dropped.

    And what of that last charge?? Oh..

    Gingrich is paying $300,000 for the costs of an ethics committee investigation after admitting last year he made inaccurate statements during a lengthy probe into Democratic allegations that he misused tax-exempt donations. Gingrich denied the charges but submitted to a reprimand by the House.

    And about that hospital bedside chat. What did the wife have to say?

    Jackie Battley, Jan. 3, 1985: He walked out in the spring of 1980 and I returned to Georgia. By September, I went into the hospital for my third surgery. The two girls came to see me, and said Daddy is downstairs and could he come up? When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from the surgery.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2011/.....orce-myth/

    LMAO! Who are you going to believe? Gingrich or the wife he dumped for a younger model? (Who by the way has denounced him as well.)

    http://www.esquire.com/features/newt-gingrich-0910

    We know who the pathological liar believes! Like attracts like!

  75. 75

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 1:56 pm

    Only a moron like the puddywuddyduddypussy would care about a comment…and condemn an entire organization, all of it’s history and all of the good and caring people who ever worked for or with it…Only a moron like the puddywuddyduddypussy would care about a comment…that was and is clearly wrong from a person who is clearly…dead.

    Oh my oh my, the dark skinned broad nosed black man is on the attack again… When the facts appear rujax runs, ducks and covers… Well then let’s see how he deals with this

    At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the “black” and “yellow” peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger’s American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

    Sanger’s other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as “scientific” and “humanitarian.” And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America’s human “breeding stock” and purging America’s “bad strains.” These “strains” included the “shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South.”…

    While Planned Parenthood’s current apologists try to place some distance between the eugenics and birth control movements, history definitively says otherwise. The eugenic theme figured prominently in the Birth Control Review, which Sanger founded in 1917. She published such articles as “Some Moral Aspects of Eugenics” (June 1920), “The Eugenic Conscience” (February 1921), “The purpose of Eugenics” (December 1924), “Birth Control and Positive Eugenics” (July 1925), “Birth Control: The True Eugenics” (August 1928), and many others.

    Or how does he deal with these facts

    A highly significant 1993 Howard University study showed that African American women over age 50 were 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer if they had had any abortions compared to women who had not had any abortions.

    Keep dope alive rujax!

  76. 76

    Rujax! Celebrating the MASTER BULLSHITTIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 1:57 pm

    73. Puddybud spews:

    Ad hominem attacks. I love it. When you reduce a leftist pinhead to reading facts all they have left are ad hominem attacks.

    Keep up the great work you morons. You perfectly prove liberalism is a mental disorder.

    12/08/2011 at 1:43 pm

    Ha!

    The pot calling the kettle black.

    (watch the loon characterize this as a racist smear…four…three..two…)

  77. 77

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:07 pm

    Does ylb ever read?

    Gingrich or the wife he dumped for a younger model?

    It was his DAUGHTER who said that!

    The House ethics committee dropped the three remaining ethics charges against Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) yesterday, despite finding that Gingrich repeatedly violated one rule by using a political consultant to develop the Republican legislative agenda.

    Three of the panel’s Republican members joined all four Democrats in the 7-1 vote to recommend that the full House reprimand Gingrich — on a single charge of misleading the committee. ylb’s entry…

    Gingrich is paying $300,000 for the costs of an ethics committee investigation after admitting last year he made inaccurate statements during a lengthy probe into Democratic allegations that he misused tax-exempt donations. Gingrich denied the charges but submitted to a reprimand by the House.

    The IRS response…

    The Internal Revenue Service has cleared an organization of charges that it violated its tax-exempt status when it helped fund a college course taught by former House speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), the organization said yesterday.

    No wonder you are a bottom dweller ylb. Not only can’t read, but can’t figger things out. I provided the second link for the last charge.

    You ARE THE STUPID! (Maury Povich modified) If he only had a brain ylb would be a worthy opponent. But, alas, he’s my beta; I AM HIS ALPHA!

    Stalks me all the time. Well he needs a role model! Hard working, good looking, educated, sees the world!

  78. 78

    Rujax! Celebrating the MASTER BULLSHITTIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:10 pm

    Yeah…

    …1928. NOTHING has changed since then.

    While Planned Parenthood’s current apologists try to place some distance between the eugenics and birth control movements, history definitively says otherwise. The eugenic theme figured prominently in the Birth Control Review, which Sanger founded in 1917. She published such articles as “Some Moral Aspects of Eugenics” (June 1920), “The Eugenic Conscience” (February 1921), “The purpose of Eugenics” (December 1924), “Birth Control and Positive Eugenics” (July 1925), “Birth Control: The True Eugenics” (August 1928), and many others.

    http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/.....d-abortion

    The Truth About Breast Cancer and Abortion

    by Amie Newman

    January 14, 2010 – 7:00am (Print)Donate!

    There has been renewed excitement in the anti-choice, anti-health movement as of late over the potential link between abortion and breast cancer. Everyone from Jill Stanek to Beliefnet is reporting on what they have decided is proof positive that induced abortion leads to breast cancer. They are writing about these two health incidents as if there now exists a distinct, clear cause and effect relationship between the two, as evidenced by a new study, the results of which were released in April 2009.

    The only problem with reporting on this as if anything were new is that, well, nothing is new.

    The April 2009 study to which Stanek, Beliefnet and others are referring is entitled, “Risk Factors for Triple Negative Breast Cancer In Women Under the Age of 45 Years” and was undertaken by researchers affiliated with the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, University of Washington’s Department of Epidemiology and the National Cancer Institute. It was published in the April 2009 edition of the Journal of Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers and Prevention. An abstract is available for free but if you’d like to view the entire report, you’ll need to purchase it from the Journal.

    The goal of this paper was to “assess the risk for triple negative breast cancer” (a rare cancer that is found more frequently in younger women and African-American women and unfortunately, associated with a high mortality rate) among women younger than forty-five years old taking into account “demographic/lifestyle factors, reproductive history, and oral contraceptive use” – something for which the data from the previous studies was not analyzed. However, the data used was collected in the mid to late 1980s through 1990. From the paper itself:

    The cases included in this study were originally ascertained for two previous studies through the population-based Seattle–Puget Sound Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results cancer registry. Eligible cases from the first study population included all primary invasive breast cancers within the three-county Seattle metropolitan area, diagnosed between January 1, 1983, and April 30, 1990 (ages, 21-45 y).

    This paper simply took older information in order to determine whether or not the relationships between breast cancer and other factors (family history, early menarche, induced abortion, etc.) held firm when women were stratified according to those with triple negative breast cancer and those without.

    What did this new study confirm in relation to abortion and breast cancer? The study confirms that there is no variation in risk related to abortion and breast cancer stratified by those with and those without triple negative breast cancer because that’s all the study was mean to undertake in regards to these particular conditions.

    According to one of the researchers and authors of the report, Kathi Malone, “There are no new findings related to induced abortion in this paper because the results of these women were published previously.”

    In fact, the only reason abortion was included at all was because it was a factor in the old studies. The main conclusions related to this new research had to do with triple negative breast cancer and oral contraceptive use among younger women.


    So just how exactly are anti-choice publications, blogs and others turning this into new evidence about abortion and breast cancer? By wishing really, really hard it were so. And then writing it down and finding someone to publish it.</
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    I tell ya…the puddywuddyduddypussy and his awesome bullshittium factory are working OVERTIME today!!!

    Go puddywuddyduddypussy…GO!!!

  79. 79

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:12 pm

    Notice rujax hasn’t delivered a factual refutation?

  80. 80

    Rujax! Celebrating the MASTER BULLSHITTIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:17 pm

    77. Puddybud spews:

    blockquoteDoes ylb ever read?

    (snippy, snippy)

    No wonder you are a bottom dweller ylb. Not only can’t read, but can’t figger things out. I provided the second link for the last charge.

    You ARE THE STUPID! (Maury Povich modified) If he only had a brain ylb would be a worthy opponent. But, alas, he’s my beta; I AM HIS ALPHA!

    Stalks me all the time. Well he needs a role model! Hard working, good looking, educated, sees the world!

    12/08/2011 at 2:07 pm

    ylb reads AND COMPREHENDS waaaaaayyyyy better than the puddywuddyduddypussy…for sure.

    I think the puddywuddyduddypussy is gonna have to eat his words after Mittens and his minions get through with the Newt. As much as I enjoyed Nancy Pelosi using the ethicak midget Gingrich for target practice, Romney’s hit men are going to take it to Newt in a big way.

    I’ll pop more popcorn if one of you guys will bring soda!!

    Meanwhile, our President will be cruising to re-election.

  81. 81

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:17 pm

    Wow… It seems Darryl has relaxed the copying rules again…

    So rujax, that has what relationship to the Harvard study on black women?

    Wait for it… this will really be good!

  82. 82

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:19 pm

    Oh my rujax visits ylb’s blog. Does ylb visit rujax’s blog? That’s the telling question!

  83. 83

    Rujax! Celebrating the MASTER BULLSHITTIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:20 pm

    79. Puddybud spews:

    Notice rujax hasn’t delivered a factual refutation?

    12/08/2011 at 2:12 pm

    If puddywuddyduddypussy ever delivered a factual challenge perhaps Ol’ Rujax would.

    If 79. Puddybud spews:

    Notice rujax hasn’t delivered a factual refutation?

    12/08/2011 at 2:12 pm

  84. 84

    YLB spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:27 pm

    It was his DAUGHTER who said that!

    What? This?

    When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from the surgery.

    Now the pathological liar is saying Gingrich wanted to divorce HIS DAUGHTER????

    What a miserable loon!

    Go ahead moron! Call Jackie Battley a liar! Hold Gingrich’s word above hers!

    Too funny!

  85. 85

    YLB spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:28 pm

    82 – LMAO! I’ve answered that question. I won’t repeat my answer. Use teh google..

    Keep searching..

  86. 86

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:29 pm

    My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested. Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother. She had undergone surgery the day before to remove a tumor. The tumor was benign. As with many divorces, it was hard and painful for all involved, but life continued.

    ylb was a moron when he arrived on HA. ylb is still a moron on HA. ylb will be a moron when Jesus comes again!

    So ylb moron, what happened to the 84th ethics violation charge? Oh wait, the IRS cleared him!

    FACTS explode losers like ylb!

  87. 87

    Rujax! Celebrating the MASTER BULLSHITTIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:29 pm

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....t-liberals

    Thu Dec 08, 2011 at 01:47 PM PST.

    Rick Perry ad: Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney are ‘big government liberals’

    by Jed LewisonFollow .

    Texas Governor Noted Obama-critic and anti-gay bigot Rick Perry has a new target for his venom: fellow Republicans Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney.

    VOICEOVER: We don’t want government-mandated health care, yet Newt Gingrich supports it. And Mitt Romney … he put it into law in Massachusetts. Worse, Barack Obama forced it on the entire nation. Rick Perry, he’ll repeal it starting day one.
    RICK PERRY: I won’t let the big government liberals ruin this country. I’m Rick Perry, I’m an outsider who will repeal Obamacare, and I approved this message.

    Yeah, Rick Perry’s such an outsider that he threatened to secede from the country before he decided he wanted to lead it. And he clearly hasn’t spent much time looking inside the text of the U.S. Constitution, because presidents don’t have the power to repeal legislation, let alone do it on day one.

    But I’ll give him credit for this: Unlike Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney, Rick Perry has never once supported “government-mandated health care.” Of course, there was that one time that he did praise Hillary Clinton’s “most commendable” efforts to achieve universal coverage, but what’s a little experimentation among friends, right?

    So now that that lying, arrogant, charlatan sack of shit Herman Cain is out of the race I wonder why the puddywuddyduddypussy isn’t jumping all over the (he can’t REALLY be gay can he…you know with the “Brokeback Mountain” look and all)Rick Perry?

    Perry’s about as electable as Gingrich, so what’s the diff?

  88. 88

    Rujax! Celebrating the MASTER BULLSHITTIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:32 pm

    86. Puddybud spews:

    ylb was a moron when he arrived on HA. ylb is still a moron on HA. ylb will be a moron when Jesus comes again!

    12/08/2011 at 2:29 pm

    Oh my.

    That’s an ad hominum attack, puddywuddyduddypussy. What would your teh jesus say. Yer s’posed to turn the other chek ya know…”70 times 7″ and all that.

    Tsk, tsk, tsk.

  89. 89

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:42 pm

    Just for Puddy’s benefit:

    House Reprimands, Penalizes Speaker
    By John E. Yang
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Wednesday, January 22 1997; Page A01

    The House voted overwhelmingly yesterday to reprimand House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) and order him to pay an unprecedented $300,000 penalty, the first time in the House’s 208-year history it has disciplined a speaker for ethical wrongdoing.

    The ethics case and its resolution leave Gingrich with little leeway for future personal controversies, House Republicans said. Exactly one month before yesterday’s vote, Gingrich admitted that he brought discredit to the House and broke its rules by failing to ensure that financing for two projects would not violate federal tax law and by giving the House ethics committee false information.

    “Newt has done some things that have embarrassed House Republicans and embarrassed the House,” said Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.). “If [the voters] see more of that, they will question our judgment.”

    House Reprimands, Penalizes Speaker

    Of course, this was just one of some 25+ violations Gingrich ultimately had to answer for. The real scandel is that Gingrich’s personally-picked ethics panel entered into a negotiated settlement with Newt that the remaining charges would be dropped in return for him dropping his objection that the one remaining charge (for which he was ultimately censored) be referred to a special prosecutor, one in which Gingrich had a say as to their selection. Despite this, he still managed to piss off enough Republicans that they censored him, although they refrained from reprimanding him.

    Notice, of course, that Puddy is trying to throw rocks at other people’s arguments, but he trys to avoid making any claim he has to actually back up on his own.

    Puddy, are you asserting that Newt Gingrich is an ethical man, one whom you would feel comfortable in a position of trust? For example, would you turn over your assets to him and trust him to manage them for your best interests and those of your family? Would you trust him to look after your wife while you were away on extended travels, and trust him not to try to get her into bed with him? How about your daughter?

    Personally, I wouldn’t trust him with a thin dime, and I wouldn’t get any closer to him than I would a rattlesnake.

  90. 90

    Rujax! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:43 pm

    http://thinkprogress.org/econo.....r-trading/

    House GOP Blocks Its Own Member From Moving Anti-Insider Trading Bill: ‘We’re Not Going To Cover Spencer’s Ass’

    By Pat Garofalo on Dec 8, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Last month, a 60 Minutes investigation revealed that House Financial Services Chairman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) made stock trades based on information that he received in private briefings during the financial crisis of 2008. Bachus’ trades reportedly netted him around $30,000.

    Following the story, Congress suddenly found an interest in blocking its members from trading on information they receive in their official capacity. The Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge (STOCK) Act, which would ban this sort of activity, picked up dozens of co-sponsors, after it had languished for months with nearly no interest. Bachus was evidently ready and willing to move the bill forward, in an attempt to clean up his own image, but several other Republicans, including House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), put the kibosh on that plan, according to Politico:

    A day after Financial Services Committee Chairman Spencer Bachus said he would move forward on an insider-trading bill, Majority Leader Eric Cantor stopped him dead in his tracks.

    In a Wednesday meeting described by one source as “extremely direct” and by another as “very blunt,” Cantor (R-Va.) ripped into Bachus, explaining in no uncertain terms that it was unacceptable for Bachus to mark up the bill without having run it by GOP leaders and other chairmen with jurisdiction over its provisions. The Alabama Republican abruptly canceled the vote, which was scheduled for next week. […]

    “We’re not going to cover Spencer’s ass by passing a half-baked bill,” one Republican member of the panel told POLITICO. “Even Barney Frank didn’t pass it in his two terms as chairman and Dem[ocrats] are the lead sponsors. It’s all about Spencer’s bad political position, not the contents of the policy.”

    At least they’re consistent.

  91. 91

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:51 pm

    # 86: Uh, no. The IRS didn’t clear him. They decided the corporations didn’t violate the law, and declined to prosecute Gingrich. I read the IRS opinion letter. That’s a far cry from “clearing him”.

    And the house ethics case wasn’t restricted to him violating the IRS rules. They also included his lying to Congress about the details of the transactions. And Congress has the authority to charge members with ethics violations if they violate the “spirit” of the laws, even if they are not technical violations.

    Of course, Puddy would be having a field day if a Democratic speaker of the house had conspired to frustrate the campaign spending limits in effect at the time through the book-sales and “correspondence courses” for which corporate executives and lobbyists paid substantial sums. The fact that Puddy sees nothing wrong with this just goes to show what a knee-jerk Republican talking head Puddy is.

  92. 92

    YLB spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:51 pm

    LMAO! The moron just keeps asking for more:

    From Jackie Battely, the wife dumped for a younger model:

    When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from the surgery.

    What a class act you’re defending there dope. Now that Cain’s out of the picture you’ve UPGRADED!

    what happened to the 84th ethics violation charge?

    This happened idiot:

    The House voted overwhelmingly yesterday to reprimand House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) and order him to pay an unprecedented $300,000 penalty, the first time in the House’s 208-year history it has disciplined a speaker for ethical wrongdoing.
    …

    “Newt has done some things that have embarrassed House Republicans and embarrassed the House,” said Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.). “If [the voters] see more of that, they will question our judgment.”

    …

    The 395 to 28 vote closes a tumultuous chapter that began Sept. 7, 1994,

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....012297.htm

    395 to 28! REPUBLICANS turned against the scumbag! He was an embarrassment to them!

    Now you dopes in your ODS-addled desperation want to bring him back! Hilarious!

  93. 93

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 2:55 pm

    Short Puddy: “Gingrich wasn’t prosecuted by the IRS for violating the law, so he’s therefore ethical”.

    Why is it that Republicans these days seem to think that as long as they can get away with it, it’s ethical?

  94. 94

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:01 pm

    January 22 1997 – rhp6033

    February 4, 1999 – Puddy

    Why is it that Republicans these days seem to think that as long as they can get away with it, it’s ethical?

    Wow rhp6033, you are really trying.

    The IRS, concluding a three-year investigation, ruled that the Progress and Freedom Foundation’s donations to Gingrich were “consistent with its stated exempt purposes,” and Gingrich’s course and course book “were educational in content.”

    Unlike Jim Wright, the IRS could not find anything wrong. So in a court of law it was ethical!

  95. 95

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:04 pm

    Yep

    This happened idiot

    on the 84th charge

    The IRS, concluding a three-year investigation, ruled that the Progress and Freedom Foundation’s donations to Gingrich were “consistent with its stated exempt purposes,” and Gingrich’s course and course book “were educational in content.”

    When was the vote? When did the IRS clear him?

    You are still a chronological failure!

  96. 96

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:04 pm

    # 90: The version I heard about an hour ago was that some form of Congressional insider trading bill might yet pass the house next year. The problem wasn’t so much with Bachus’ sponsorship, but with the fact that he allowed a Democrat to co-sponsor the bill with him, and moved it onto the voting calendar without clearing it through Republican leadership.

    In an election-year strategy, the Republicans wanted to claim that it’s a Republican bill to “clean up” Congress, and set up a series of hearings over the next six months designed to embarrass Pelosi and other Democrats who would be accused of insider trading. No Republicans would be called to sit in the hot seat. Then they would pass the bill, and proclaim victory in “cleaning up” after the Democrats.

    Bachus’ setting this up for a vote before Christmas interferred with those plans – that’s why they got so hot under the collar at him. Now it looks like they are trying to find a way to quietly scuttle the existing bill in committee, and substitute one with the Republicans as the only sponsors.

  97. 97

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:07 pm

    Apparently rhp6033 has issues with facts…

    In that investigation, special counsel James M. Cole concluded that Gingrich, in a class titled “Renewing American Civilization,” which he taught at two Georgia colleges, was funded by tax-exempt charities for activities that were “substantially motivated by partisan, political goals.”

    In its ruling, the IRS said the content of Gingrich’s course “was educational and never favored or opposed a candidate for public office.”

    So ya see it was an attack on Gingrich. The IRS said the attack was without merit.

    You DUMMOCRAPTS really play your DNC talking points really well.

  98. 98

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:09 pm

    When will he ever learn? Would Harry Reid allow that in the senate rhp6033?

  99. 99

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:17 pm

    # 94: Yea, I know the IRS decision came later. That was part of the scam when the ethics violation was settled – they referred THAT PART of the violation to the IRS. But that wasn’t all of the case, lying to Congress was another part of the case.

    Only you are insisting that as long as he didn’t have to do the perp walk from the courthouse to the jailhouse is proof that Gingrich is “ethical”.

    Are your own sense of ethics that warped?

  100. 100

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:25 pm

    Since rhp6033 still relies on DNC material CNN provides Puddy’s material.

    Skipping to the pertinent part:

    JAMES COLE, SPECIAL COUNSEL, HOUSE ETHICS COMMITTEE

    COLE: And it looked for other ways in which to do this. GOPAC had a number of roles in regard to the course. For example, GOPAC personnel helped to develop, manage, promote and raise funds for the course. GOPAC charter members helped develop the idea to even teach the course.

    And GOPAC charter members, at one of its charter meetings, developed some of the messages that would be used in the course and used for GOPAC. According to Mr. Gingrich, GOPAC was better off as a result of the nationwide dissemination of the “Renewing American Civilization” message that was done by the course, because the course disseminated the message of the movement and of GOPAC without cost to GOPAC.

    The course itself was taught at Kennesaw State College in 1993 and at Reinhardt College in 1994 and 1995. Each year the course consisted of ten lectures and each lecture consisted of four hours of classroom instruction.

    Mr. Gingrich taught half of the lecture, two hours each week. And a co-professor, a professor from the college that it was it at, taught the other two hours. Students from each of the college, as well as people who were not students, would attend the lectures.

    Only Mr. Gingrich’s portion of the lectures — his 20 hours — were disseminated via cable, television, satellite broadcasts, video tapes, audio tapes through the Renewing American Civilization Project. The 20 hours of lecture of the co-professors were not disseminated and were not distributed.

    As with the American Opportunities Workshop and the American Citizens Television Project, the Renewing American Civilization Project and course involved setting up workshops around the country where people would gather to watch the course. While the course was indeed educational, Mr. Gingrich intended that the workshops would be, among other things, a recruiting tool for GOPAC and for the Republican Party.

    The major costs for Renewing American Civilization, as a course, were for the dissemination of the lectures. There was very money needed to be spent to actually put the course on itself. This expense of dissemination of the message and of the lectures was paid for by tax-deductible contributions that were made to various 501(C)3 organizations that sponsored the course.

    Over the three years that the course was broadcast, approximately $1.2 million was spent on this project.

    That was the 84th charge. And the IRS said he broke no laws.

  101. 101

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:29 pm

    That’s an ad hominum attack, puddy

    Nope you Dope… I gave a clear and distinct fact in the same blog entry.

    #68 and #70 are direct ad hominem attacks on me. There are no facts presented in either entry.

    See ya rujax moron!

  102. 102

    Puddybud spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:35 pm

    A great article…

    Why Nancy Pelosi Is Attacking Newt Gingrich on Ethics

    Ain’t it obvious?

    As the San Francisco Examiner editorialized recently,

    Democrat Nancy Pelosi and her husband cashed in big time by getting special access to an initial public offering of Visa stock even as the House under her leadership refused to move important credit card industry reforms.

    She needs to change the subject. Of course the morons at TPM and their kook-aid drinkers here at HA would never think that through. They jump with a blog thread and run when Nancy farts!

  103. 103

    YLB spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:39 pm

    It’s same old song and dance from the pathological liar..

    Foley groomed underage men for sex and had sex with them when they turned “of age”..

    Nothing “wrong” to see there, the pathological liar says the FBI cleared him of “wrongdoing”.

    Now it’s the IRS “clearing” Gingrich of being of an unethical hypocrite even though his own people voted to fine the scumbag 300k.

    That’s the ultimate blow to a right winger – taking his money..

    Just ask Alan West when the Army fined him $5000 and turned him out. Heh. I bet West never forgives and certainly never forgets.

  104. 104

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:42 pm

    Let’s look at what the Bible says about the qualifications of those who would be leaders in the church:

    1 Timothy Chapter 3 (NIV):

    1 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. 2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,…

    Well, it’s not looking so good for Gingrich so far. “Faithful to his wife”? Not hardly. “…Temperate, self-controlled, respectable…” I’ve never heard him defined by anyone – even his own party leadership – in that fashion.

    3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

    He’s probably not a drunkard or violent, but I’ve never heard him described as “gentle”. “Quarrelsome” would be a good all-round description of Gingrich. As for being a “lover of money”, that also pretty much defines him – he’s always trying one scam or another to make money, stretching the rules to the breaking point in the process.

    4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect.

    Gee, I don’t know if he even has any children, but anyone who is on their third wife can’t be said to to “manage his own family well”.

    5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?)

    Or handle a nation?

    6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.

    Gingrich’s only defense against his personal ethical issues is that he is a new man since his relatively recent conversion to Catholicism. Would that make him a “new convert”? I guess that’s the rub, isn’t it – are we supposed to forget twenty-five or thirty years of unethical behavior – in the bedroom and in public life – because he’s managed to behave himself for a few years since then?

    7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.

    Well, there goes that “reputation” thing again. It just keeps coming back to haunt him. It would be one thing if he was only unpopular with the “other side”, but there are an awfull lot of Republicans, those who have worked with him, who wouldn’t trust him any further than they can throw him.

    8 In the same way, deacons are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain.

    Oh, there we go with the “pursuing dishonest gain” bit again. But I guess Puddy would argue as long as he’s not found guilty in a court of law, it’s okay.

    Try taking that position at the Pearly Gates, Puddy, and see how far it gets you with old St. Peter.

    9 They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience.

    I’m not sure how this translates into the political world, so I’ll leave it to others to contemplate.

    10 They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.

    Seems he not only was tested, he was giving a leadership position, and then kicked out by his own party. Turns out he made a convenient junkyard dog, but the leash wasn’t short enough.

    11 In the same way, the women are to be worthy of respect, not malicious talkers but temperate and trustworthy in everything.

    I think Timothy is referring to the wife of the Deacon, so I don’t know how this translates into the political world, I won’t bother to speculate on it right now.

    12 A deacon must be faithful to his wife and must manage his children and his household well.

    Again, that old “faithful to his wife” thing. Timothy refers to it what – three times here, doesn’t he? I guess he thinks it is an important qualification for a leader, don’t you think?

    13 Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.

    Amen.

  105. 105

    YLB spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 3:45 pm

    Are your own sense of ethics that warped?

    The pathological liar is a troll. In a rare moment of honesty, he admitted it.

    Trolls have no ethics..

    At best they serve as entertainment.

  106. 106

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 4:01 pm

    You might say that Romney is a lot better qualified under I Timothy Chapter 3 than Gingrich is. But there’s that “lover of money” thing, again. I bet Romney’s really regretting having that Baine Capital picture taken of him, with him and his associates waiving handfuls of cash for the camera!

  107. 107

    Rujax! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 4:01 pm

    105. YLB spews:

    Are your own sense of ethics that warped?

    The pathological liar is a troll. In a rare moment of honesty, he admitted it.

    Trolls have no ethics..

    At best they serve as entertainment.

    12/08/2011 at 3:45 pm

    Especially the Puddybuddy.

    He has well and truly gotten pummelled by all comers today.

  108. 108

    YLB spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 7:15 pm

    The asshat troll says Wyoming is a “beautiful place”..

    LMAO!!!

    Sure, whatever you say colon-view. (Yes, I have been there myself).

    However, when you’re out there with the wife and kids I suggest you don’t drink the water.

  109. 109

    Mookie Blaylock spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 9:06 pm

    @108

    you really need to get a life….

    ..and stop being so jealous.

  110. 110

    Michael spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 9:20 pm

    The asshat troll says Wyoming is a “beautiful place”..

    Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons are amazing. Most of the Western half of Wyoming is really pretty. Down around Casper and Cheyenne is pretty awful.

    I spent a summer and fall working in Yellowstone, it really is an amazing place.

  111. 111

    Rujax! spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 9:31 pm

    109. Mookie Blaylock spews:

    @108

    you really need to get a life….

    ..and stop being so jealous.

    12/08/2011 at 9:06 pm

    the emperor max-minidick aka kaiser bun the first needs to go fuck himself…probably the only fucking he gets, but it’s from his favorite person.

  112. 112

    YLB spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 10:21 pm

    110 – Yes, parts of Wyoming are the best this country has to offer. Along with parts of every other state..

    But the rest is being poisoned to death by right wing greed.

    Remember Duck! Cheney had a big hand in neutering federal regulation over hydraulic fracturing plays..

    It’s great we’re producing a third of our natural gas production domestically now but we’re paying a big price that’s not seen in the gas bills.

  113. 113

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 12/8/11 at 10:50 pm

    @112 Wellhead gas prices have dropped two-thirds. Why haven’t heating bills dropped two-thirds, too? Who’s getting our money? Besides the Koch brothers, I mean.

  114. 114

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 12/9/11 at 12:19 am

    Puget Sound Energy and PUD are Koch companies?

    Who knew?

  115. 115

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 12/9/11 at 12:41 am

    @114 I didn’t say they were. All the rotten-eggs-smelling gas around here comes out of your ass.

  116. 116

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 12/9/11 at 12:43 am

    Foley groomed underage men for sex and had sex with them when they turned “of age”.. Nothing “wrong” to see there, the FBI cleared him of “wrongdoing”.

    Correct. It’s DUMMOCRAPT libtardos who scream it’s just sex man… Oh wait… can’t have that cuz ylb sez so!

    Now it’s the IRS “clearing” Gingrich of being of an unethical hypocrite even though his own people voted to fine the scumbag 300k.

    Scumbag? You mean you were fined $300K. You are only scumbag still screaming into the wind. And so what. Now would they have voted the same way after the IRS found him innocent?

    That’s the ultimate blow to a right winger – taking his money..

    Really? You didn’t get any?

  117. 117

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 12/9/11 at 12:57 am

    @105,

    Wow stalk attempt #20. I am in this loser’s head 24×7. I am HIS ALPHA. He wakes up and it’s another how can I attempt to get Puddy day. I can come in from work knowing this moron will attempt another yank from the crazed databaze while he’s on his ASS all day. Yet in all his attempts, his is still that monomaniacal (“proud he’s an ASS” said in 2009) chronologically challenged fool.

    Yet, he continues to fail fail fail. He has all day to look up stuff to try and refute facts. His Factcheck.org link fell on it’s face. To use the moron’s own words

    LMAO! Who are you going to believe?

    Their daughter blew that crapola apart. Seems the first wife asked for the divorce.

    And Cushman, also in an interview with UnionLeader.com, said that her mother will no longer talk to media about the incident because she believes her earlier words were “misconstrued” and “misquoted.”

    Of course DUMMOCRAPT libtardo media will use anything against conservative Republicans including misquoting and misconstruing.

    Sucks to be ylb. That grenade just exploded up his ASS.

  118. 118

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 12/9/11 at 1:26 am

    He has well and truly gotten pummelled by all comers today

    What a delusional loon! By whom? You? Stupid Solution Steve? rhp6033? ylb?

    I haven’t been touched. I delivered FACTS!

    Still waiting for someone to tell Puddy what happened in 1968. rujax surely doesn’t know and we know the moron trying to masquerade as a black man has no clue!

    Sucks to be rujax, a black man with no identity, just swimming with the ball of fish waiting to be eaten by a killer whale!

    Watch for his latest copy with now facts!

  119. 119

    Rujax! Celebrating the MASTER BULLSHITTIUM-ER (or something)...the puddywuddyduddypussy!!! spews:

    Friday, 12/9/11 at 9:11 am

    118. Puddybud spews:

    He has well and truly gotten pummelled by all comers today

    What a delusional loon! By whom? You? Stupid Solution Steve? rhp6033? ylb?

    I haven’t been touched. I delivered FACTS!

    Still waiting for someone to tell Puddy what happened in 1968. rujax surely doesn’t know and we know the moron trying to masquerade as a black man has no clue!

    Sucks to be rujax, a black man with no identity, just swimming with the ball of fish waiting to be eaten by a killer whale!

    Watch for his latest copy with now facts!

    12/09/2011 at 1:26 am

    You’re EVERYBODY’S bitch here, you moron.

  120. 120

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 12/9/11 at 4:12 pm

    You’re EVERYBODY’S bitch here, you moron.

    Another comment while he’s looking in the mirror!

    A real reservation dweller!

    No facts again!

    Very telling!

  121. 121

    Rujax! spews:

    Friday, 12/9/11 at 4:21 pm

    @120…

    Please see comment #119…

    …BITCH.

  122. 122

    YLB spews:

    Friday, 12/9/11 at 6:02 pm

    117 – Uh I’m going on the wife’s words stupid.. She had the bedside chat with the cheating spouse..

    The daughter does not contradict her. NOT.ONE.BIT…

    Wow… Recovering from cancer, IN THE FREAKING HOSPITAL, and the asshole wants to talk business..

    Heh.. Go ahead and support him stupid now that that the other philanderer Cain is out of the picture… Gingrich is a real piece of work.

    Tailor made for you.. It’s going to be fun seeing you “jockstrap” him..

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