– Happy New Year!
– 1 Million bike trips across the Freemont Bridge this year!
– Emmett thinks that how Seattle and Portland handled Uber says a lot more about how the two cities handle competition more generally. I’m not sure I 100% buy it, but it was a fun read.
– Geez have the Metro drivers even heard of just holding it?
– Good on Nashville Police Chief Steve Anderson for being a decent person in response to a letter.
– Sounds like the appropriate response to 2014
SpitInTheFaceOfFreedom spews:
With regrad to Fox News new popularity ratings. You know – the Jerry Springer show was pretty popular too. The O’riely Factor and Jerry Springer show, not much different when it comes down to it.
Sloppy Travis Bickle spews:
I’ve previously commented on the down-ballot consequences of the 2010 and 2014 elections. Sure, there are all of the Congressional aspects of the flips from Dem to GOP control, and there may be redistricting benefits to the GOP assuming things stay as they are.
Here’s another likely consequence of state-level legislative shifts:
The number of abortion clinics across the country has shrunk by nearly one-quarter over the last five years, with 60 facilities shuttered in 2014 alone, according to new research.
…
Clinic closures have spiked since the Republican wave of 2010, when the GOP took over the House and made gains in state legislatures around the country.
http://thehill.com/policy/heal.....arch-finds
During the 13 years from December 31, 1995, through the end of 2008, Planned Parenthood closed 125 facilities—an average of 9.6 per year. But during the comparatively brief five-year period from January 1, 2009, through today, 145 Planned Parenthood clinics have shut down.
http://www.lifenews.com/2014/1.....r-in-2014/
The decline in the overall number of abortions has a role in this decrease in the number of clinics proving that service, certainly. But among poor or otherwise disadvantaged women, the abortion rate has increased. So there’s an increasing need for abortion services among women these clinics were intended to help.
Between this afternoon and the end of the upcoming holiday weekend YLB will undoubtedly post some breathless accounting of the purported Obama successes over the past year.
I’d just like to take this opportunity, once again, to point out the devastation that has occurred to Democrats at the state level during the period Obama has been in office.
Happy New Year, everyone. You too, YLB. (!)
SpitInTheFaceOfFreedom spews:
@2 You are pretty late on the New of Abortion Clinics closing due to regulations (those things that conservatives hate) by Conservatives. This is old news.
And I didn’t read every link provided only because this is all old news, but did any of those links provide that abortions are down? Or are you just surmizing less clinics less abortions?
SpitInTheFaceOfFreedom spews:
You say this as if I am suppose to be mad at Obama, just because in your opinion he caused all the democrats to lose. Only you would like to continue to be in a blaming node. I have no ill feelings for Obama, even if Democrats lost every seat in state and fed elections. It would be thier own fault, and is their own fault, remember taking personal responsiblity for something in life. Thier own fault they couldn’t get their message out to win over some fucking slime ball. Not Obama’s fault. I know you want to just blame him for one more thing, your list will continue to grow. Good for you, you WBC supporter.
Sloppy Travis Bickle spews:
@ 3
Rather than wasting everyone’s time, if you’re interested enough to ask the question, click on the link.
Sloppy Travis Bickle spews:
@ 4
Hey, one-trick pony:
Every time you write WBC, I think White Blood Count. After that I think World Boxing Council.
SpitInTheFaceOfFreedom spews:
@6 and I think you are just one fuck face, it’s never changed. You are a fraud in every respect. How about White Boys Club?
SpitInTheFaceOfFreedom spews:
So abortion rates have fallen. Does that mean unwanted pregnancies have dropped too or are they on the rise because it is now harder to get an abortion – what an accomplishment that would be. More unwanted babies – I wonder what the consequences of that would be.
Sloppy Travis Bickle spews:
@ 7
http://www.acronymfinder.com/WBC.html
Nope.
But there’s White Boy Crazy. That could be you.
Oh, and Westboro Baptist Church. World Barista Championship.
Sloppy Travis Bickle spews:
@ 8
More unwanted babies – I wonder what the consequences of that would be.
More people who grow up to be like you, I’d imagine.
Unplanned pregnancies/abortions are down among educated women with financial means. They are up among poor/less educated women. So it’s misleading to just look at the overall number of abortions.
SpitInTheFaceOfFreedom spews:
@8 meant unwanted child births not pregnancies. Regardless if unwanted pregnancies are down, that could be the case but unwanted births could be on the rise, and that has consequences.
But I don’t care – this seems to be a heterosexual problem and downfall.
Sloppy Travis Bickle spews:
@ 11
So @ 10 did I.
Sloppy Travis Bickle spews:
But I don’t care – this seems to be a heterosexual problem and downfall.
I’m certain you are correct. Had Adam and Eve been gay, we would not have this problem today.
SpitInTheFaceOfFreedom spews:
@13 I don’t know about that – I managed to get my dick hard enough to insert into vagina many times.
Sloppy Travis Bickle spews:
@ 14
Happy New Year, Oedipus.
SpitInTheFaceOfFreedom spews:
@15 Happy New Year Asshole
Better spews:
Happy New Years cause it’s new years somewhere.
Better spews:
As always, every child should be a wanted child. Couples should have the knowledge and the tools to avoid unwanted pregnancies. Why is that so hard?
Darryl spews:
Sloppy Travis Bickle,
“I’d just like to take this opportunity, once again, to point out the devastation that has occurred to Democrats at the state level during the period Obama has been in office.”
Many, many problems with this amateurish and sloppy analysis.
1. Causal vacuity: You statement implies some sort of effect from “Obama [being] in office.” This is utter nonsense. Obama is not the “cause” of the decline in abortion services providers. He has not promoted legislation that cuts these services. We know the “cause” of cuts to these services at the state level: Republican-controlled state legislatures and governors.
Your implications amount to total bullshit. Once again, you demonstrate an inability to engage in honest debate, or in any adult-level of debate.
2. Level error: The success or failure of Obama’s time in office is not a function of one outcome that is almost entirely controlled, and has almost entirely played out, at the state level. This is an error that a 5th grader shouldn’t make.
God knows Obama has some failures. But rather than actually identify and argue those failures, you pick something that Obama has nothing to do with!?!? That pathetic.
3. Cherry picked case: Congratulations…you’ve constructed ANOTHER cherry picked, causally nonsensical, case. This amounts to an irrelevant anecdote in the larger collection of Obama’s accomplishments and “devastations”. And, you know the old saying…an anecdote is like the posterior (and evidently more useful) hole at end of your alimentary canal…everyone has one. Again, congratulations, Bob…you’ve ended the year by sinking into the muck of pathetic nonsense.
4. Indifference to the real victims: That the women health services providers have declined isn’t “devastation that has occurred to Democrats”. Rather, the real victims are women, and particularly poor or otherwise disadvantaged women.
These are real people, with major life changing health and medical issues who now have had their options reduced and their costs for all kinds of reproductive services–including screening for cancers, screening for HIV and STDs, and contraception services–increased significantly.
Planned Parenthood offers many services, including tools to let couples control their fertility. Closure of Planned Parenthood clinics will, almost certainly, increase the number of abortions among young, poor, and disadvantaged women.
That you post your bullshit here treating the decline of reproductive services providers as simply a move in a political chess game only demonstrates for us, once again, your lack of humanity, your disregard for human suffering and human dignity, and that you have some severe misogyny “issues”.
Hey Bobbie…how about a new years resolution to be a better man in 2015?
Here’s to a happier new year!
Better spews:
@19. Well said
Steve spews:
“Republican-controlled state legislatures and governors.”
With an assist from ALEC/ALU. They’re the primary source of the templates for legislation which the Republicans turn into state law – legislation which targets clinics offering a low-risk procedure, abortion, saddling them with providing hospital-width corridors in all existing facilities while ignoring other clinics offering other, similarly low-risk procedures.
Whoopee spews:
Ummm, yipee for riding bikes across a bridge!…I guess.
Steve spews:
“That you post your bullshit here treating the decline of reproductive services providers as simply a move in a political chess game only demonstrates for us, once again, your lack of humanity, your disregard for human suffering and human dignity, and that you have some severe misogyny “issues”.”
The Republican party now stand for senseless war, an oligarchy free of taxation, hypocrites imposing their bronze-age science and religious beliefs on others, off-shoring American jobs while denying workers here fair wages and the right to organize, and the right to shoot blacks on sight.
Yawn spews:
@23…The sixties called, they want their lazy, naive hippie-rhetoric back.
Sloppy Travis Bickle spews:
@ 19
Here’s to a better new year for all.
#1,2 No, things that occurred at the state legislature level were not directly due to Obama, I agree. However, the changes in the makeup of legislatures occurred during elections in which voters saw the elections as referenda on Obama (2014) or his policies. Why do I think that? Partly because of what I read from Democrats, like Chuck Schumer discussing choices made regarding Obamacare after this most recent election, or even discussing choices regarding Obamacare even before the 2010 election:
http://www.newyorker.com/magaz.....the-street
#3 I wouldn’t say cherry-picked any more than ‘War on Women’ is cherry-picked. It was the issue I chose today because it was the issue I saw as a news item today, the same as items that show up on your Extravaganza posts each week are generally things you run across within the week before you post. December 31 is a day in which I spend a lot of time doing last-minute stuff, like pre-paying professional dues or other expenses this year rather than next, or paying off lost bets over 2012 presidential election results.
#4 I pointed out the effect @ 10 on the real victims, so I don’t think I was indifferent; I don’t have time to look again but I don’t think either of the links I referred to @ 2 included mention of that – that was me, after I looked a some data from another source before I posted @2. I actually had included a sentence stating that the sad thing is that the women most hurt by the closings were the ones most in need of service, but deleted it because I figured I’d catch shit for not being sincere. By stating @ 2
So there’s an increasing need for abortion services among women these clinics were intended to help.
I think I addressed their plight fairly directly, Darryl. I’m sorry you don’t see it that way. I mentioned them twice. Guess that wasn’t enough for you.
I’ve stated on HA (no idea how to find the comment but that’s why YLB exists) that every child should be loved, similar to what Better @18 has written. I’m a pro-choice and pro-gay marriage conservative. As a fiscal conservative I know that an unwanted/unloved child will be an expensive one to society, so even as a conservative I should be pro-choice on the matter of abortion.
I don’t think I cherry-picked anything, I think I could link to plenty of googled pieces describing 2010 and 2014 elections as referenda on Obama/Obama policies, and I think I adequately pointed out that poor women are most hurt by what has happened insofar as abortion clinic.
Yes, I think what Obama has championed – Obamacare, in particular, which has pretty much always been unpopular and which had a disastrous rollout that was still fresh in the minds of many voters in November – was a huge part of why Dems lost big in November and why they lost big in 2010. Obama was toxic. The number of Dem Senate candidates who ran from him in this year’s campaign is testament to that.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@2 “redistricting benefits to the GOP”
Fancy talk for democracy-undermining gerrymandering, as when a majority of the voters in a state vote for Party X but wake up to find that most of their “representatives” in Congress are from Party Y. That’s more or less how commies operate, too.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@2 “The number of abortion clinics across the country has shrunk by nearly one-quarter over the last five years, with 60 facilities shuttered in 2014 alone, according to new research. … Clinic closures have spiked since the Republican wave of 2010, when the GOP took over the House and made gains in state legislatures around the country.”
Of course, Bob is proud of this, too. In America, abortion is a constitutional right; the Supreme Court said so in 1970, and whether you agree or not, that’s the law of the land. But just as in the case of gerrymandering, Bob is very proud of the GOP’s achievements in undermining the rights of others.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@2 “the devastation that has occurred to Democrats at the state level during the period Obama has been in office”
Much of which has been achieved by means of a massive voter suppression campaign.
Roger Rabbit spews:
So, to sum up, Doctor Bob is glorifying the GOP’s successes at (1) thwarting democracy with gerrymandering, (2) thwarting the constitutional rights of others by blocking their access to legal abortions, and (3) thwarting majority rule by preventing millions of American citizens from voting in their own country, a right millions of American soldiers fought and died to preserve on foreign battlefields. Waytago, Bob!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@8 Well, you can bet that Bob and his ilk will do their damnedest in the new Congress (although it looks more like an old Congress, straight out of the 1890s) to cut food stamps for those unwanted babies. In his comment @2, Bob asks what Obama has done for us lately; I could provide a list, and it would be a long list, but I submit that Obama’s finest hour is yet to come: The vetoes he’s going to sign over the next two years.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@9 How about When Bob Croaks? Mark your calendars! See, I can play childish acronym games, too. I’m simply not inclined to.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@10 “Unplanned pregnancies/abortions are down among educated women with financial means.”
Yeah, well, they can afford European abortions.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@18 It’s hard because, human nature being what it is, there will always be some people with time on their hands and nothing better to do than fuck with other people. If it isn’t abortion, it’ll be something else. Remember when abortion was illegal? Back then, these same people wanted to outlaw contraception. And if contraception was illegal, then they would want to outlaw kissing. It’ll never stop, because this isn’t really about abortion or contraception, it’s about assholes fucking with other people using any excuse they can dream up because that’s the way they are.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@21 People like Bob will wake up to the fact they’ve been used as tools by two brothers out to buy a country (like a mega-corporation swallowing up other companies) when it’s their turn to be thrown under the bus.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@23 You forgot torture in your list of things Republicans love to do to others. And let us not forget that Bob has not only established himself as a defender of gerrymandering, vote suppression, and undemocratic government, but also of torture. And has an affinity for interfering with the rights of others. When you add it all up, it looks like Bob has character defects.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@25 “I’ve stated on HA … that every child should be loved …”
I certainly agree! You’re a good example of what happens when they aren’t. You obviously weren’t, and look how you turned out.
Steve spews:
“You forgot torture in your list of things Republicans love to do to others. ”
Fixed.
“The Republican party now stand for senseless war, torture, an oligarchy free of taxation, hypocrites imposing their bronze-age science and religious beliefs on others, off-shoring American jobs while denying workers here fair wages and the right to organize, and the right to shoot blacks on sight.”
Steve spews:
I hope you’re all as impressed as I am that Sarah Palin won the American Thinker “2014 Achievement Award”. She quite a year!
http://crooksandliars.com/2014.....ly-drunken
Roger Rabbit spews:
Matt Taibbi, a journalist and Rolling Stone contributor, hit the nail on the head when he described what America has become in the introduction to his new book, “The Divide: American Injustice in the Age of the Wealth Gap”:
“Something is at work that cuts deep into the American psyche. We have a profound hatred of the weak and the poor, and a corresponding terror and groveling before the rich and successful. The rule of law has been replaced by idiosyncratic bureaucracies designed to criminalize failure, poverty, and weakness, and immunize strength, wealth, and success. We still have jury trials, judges, and elections, the trappings of a functional democracy. But underneath that surface is a florid and malevolent bureaucracy that keeps the rich and poor separate through countless tiny and scarcely visible inequities. Most people understand this on some level, but they don’t really know how bad it has gotten. This doesn’t need to be argued. You just need to see it, and it speaks for itself.”
Perpetuating this system is, of course, what Doctor Bob and his ilk are all about: Hatin’ on the poor, and giving a free pass to the rich.
Roger Rabbit spews:
One rich kid who’s figured out it’s almost impossible for the rich to get themselves prosecuted in this country is Justin Bieber, and he isn’t even a citizen. I’d like to see just one prosecutor with balls convict him of one teeny little felony, then see our government deport his ass to Canada and permanently bar him from coming back. But nobody’s willing to do that. He’ll keep getting “Get Out Of Jail Free” cards forever. So will the bankers, who are back in the news today for their latest lawbreaking, which involves computer hacking.
Steve spews:
In case anybody’s wondering, with nothing more than the pulse-challenged Jim Miller to show for itself, Zombie (u)SP still walks with the dead.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@41 Nobody’s wondering. (U)SP’s founder, Stefan The Waitress Hater, moved on long ago. His blog was a one-trick pony. After he collected $225,000 from King County taxpayers for alleged (but never proven) Public Records Act violations, his creation had served its purpose, and he delegated its stinking corpse to the likes of Jim Miller and Pudge. Now, even they aren’t going through the motions of pretending it’s still breathing. Which leaves HA as the only blog still standing. But this was to be expected given the dearth of intellectual forage on their side of the ideological divide. If ideas were food they would have all starved to death 10 years ago, because they never did have any ideas.
The American Association of Aggrieved Waitresses spews:
“Zombie (u)SP still walks with the dead”
“(U)SP’s founder, Stefan The Waitress Hater”
We, the membership of the American Association of Aggrieved Waitresses, shall defecate on (u)SP’s grave!
Roger Rabbit spews:
Meanwhile, the stock market is ending the year with a loud hiss like air escaping from a tire. Back in January I entered a national magazine’s “Guess the Dow” contest, and right now the Dow is only 9 points away from my entry. If I win, I get $500.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@44 The final numbers are in. I missed by 3.15 points. That’s less than two-hundredths of one percent!
Darryl spews:
Sloppy Travis Bickle,
“However, the changes in the makeup of legislatures occurred during elections in which voters saw the elections as referenda on Obama (2014) or his policies.”
Not. The changes in makeup of legislatures occurred for manifold and diverse reasons. For example:
1. Every student of political science knows that the President’s party is at a disadvantage at the mid-terms.
2. Obama presided over the Bush recession, and recovery efforts were shamelessly (and immorally) blocked by an obstructionist Republican party for the good of their party over the good of America. It is well known that the President’s party is hardest hit when Americans endure fiscal hardship.
I’ll talk about Obamacare and other reasons later….
“Why do I think that? Partly because of what I read from Democrats, like Chuck Schumer discussing choices made regarding Obamacare after this most recent election…”
In other words, you cherry picked one person’s off the cuff contrarian remark and somehow believe that is representative. What a fucking dope you are!
I wouldn’t say cherry-picked any more than ‘War on Women’ is cherry-picked.”
What the fuck???? That is just fucking retarded, Bobbie. The “War on Women” is a _label_ attached to a HUGE series of statements, policies, unsuccessful legislative attempts and actual legislative accomplishments that are at odds with reproductive rights and equal opportunities for women. The phrase refers to an empirically frequent and publicly documented, widespread set of phenomenon. The phrase doesn’t conform to the concept of “cherry picked” in any sense.
Cherry picking would be supporting a claim that “all Republicans are tax cheat” citing Rep. Grimm. Or that “All Republicans [Democrats] frequent prostitutes because of Sen. Vitter [Gov. Spitzer]. Do you see the difference? Cherry picking involves picking a rare, atypical occurrence…not a widespread, common, and broad phenomenon.
“It was the issue I chose today because it was the issue I saw as a news item today,”
Yes…your comment above does have the feel of you picking a random issue and trying to make it “Obama’s fault”. The result is as nonsensical as your methods!
“I pointed out the effect @ 10 on the real victims, so I don’t think I was indifferent”
Bullshit. @10 was a debate point (and a correct one), There is no sense of empathy for the people who will have their live devastated by the immoral actions of Republican state legislatures and governors.
“Guess that wasn’t enough for you.”
It wasn’t. Your comment only seems to serve your interest in the political chess game. You are interested in your party gaining power–at any expense, with no regard whatsoever on the effect on the lives of millions of people.
“Yes, I think what Obama has championed – Obamacare, in particular, which has pretty much always been unpopular”
Bullshit. First, you may recall that BOTH candidates in 2008 proposed sweeping, health care reforms (and reforms that had huge overlap). The fact is that Obama won, and the ACA was passed. Republicans engaged in a multi-year dishonest campaign, essentially lying through their teeth, about it (“Death Panels”, “Will cause skyrocketting costs”, “Obamacare is a Job Killer”–repeated over and over and over again, or just “Obamacare KILLS!!!!”). You are aware of the polling showing that the provisions of Obamacare are popular–just don’t call it Obamacare. (Propaganda +1, common sense -1).
Nice job with the propaganda, Bobbie–too bad you had to sell your out your ethics and dignity in order to bad-mouth one of the greatest legislative accomplishments of the last 100 years (and I say that knowing it is very far from perfect). You assholes are left as pathetic, immoral, hollow shells. You willingness to lie, and harm America, for the benefit of your political party is disgusting.
“and which had a disastrous rollout that was still fresh in the minds of many voters in November – was a huge part of why Dems lost big in November and why they lost big in 2010. Obama was toxic. “
It probably makes you feel good to think that. I mean, you need some ends to justify the torrent of lies you (individually and collectively) have sewn for political gain. But there is little evidence to support your claim. After all, Obama won handily in 2012. How could that be, Bobbie???? Obama—notably of Obamacare fame—kicked Romney’s ass in a national election during the height of the anti-Obamacare propaganda campaign. And Democrats outvoted Republicans in House elections by 1,365,157 votes (over 1%) in 2012.
Under your “theory” voters somehow blamed local and state politicians while actually rewarding Obama, the Senate and (via the number of votes) the House—the three bodies that ACTUALLY PASSED Obamacare.
No, you idiot, the actual ACA law had little to do with Republican gains, regardless of harebrained pundit analyses, offhanded comments of politicians, and the massive propaganda efforts of wingnuts.
That said, if your comment had simply been that Obama policies had led to statewide gains for Republicans, I would have rolled my eyes and thought, “oh brother, another idiotic claim by our local Republican nut-job Bob”.
But you didn’t do that, did you? You actually blamed Obama’s policies for the tragic erosion of reproductive health services that were directly enacted by State Republican lawmakers. That pretty much puts you on the same moral level as a low level al Qaeda fan-boy blaming George W. Bush’s policies for the deaths of 3k people on September 11, 2001.
Puddybud, THE One and Only spews:
Did US military soldiers have to relocate their wedding so Obummer could play a round of golf? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us.....me-n276351
Wow! Par for the course for Obummer’s sadministration, hubris and arrogance of DUMMOCRETINS!
Roger Rabbit spews:
If Bob is right, and the 2014 midterms were a referendum on Obama’s policies, then the GOP won the lottery, because Obama now looks like a genius thanks to plunging oil prices, and if elections were held today Democrats would sweep.
Yawn spews:
Only the dumbest of the dumb, would look at cheaper gas and say “Thanks Obama”.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@47 How many newlyweds get a personal phone call from the President of the United States on their big day? This couple did. It’s a memory they’ll cherish for a lifetime.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@49 It’s not nice to insult the entire American public like that.
Puddybud, THE One and Only spews:
What a crock…
2. Obama presided over the Bush recession, and recovery efforts were shamelessly (and immorally) blocked by an obstructionist Republican party for the good of their party over the good of America. It is well known that the President’s party is hardest hit when Americans endure fiscal hardship.
June 2009, Recession OVER! Google this truth “recession over June 2009”
Obummer owned the House and Senate until January 2011. No obstruction and nothing blocked during that time! Republicans had no power then.
Good try butt poor factual representation!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@49 Plus, the few people who do think about it sure won’t give the credit to Republicans. What have they done? Squat.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@52 “June 2009, Recession OVER! Google this truth “recession over June 2009″”
Ask the average man in the street what he thinks of that.
Puddybud, THE One and Only spews:
@50,
That’s the best you can do IDIOT Wabbit? Hubris and arrogance of the Obummer whitey house! Obummer implemented CYA mode!
Yawn spews:
@51…You and six other people do not make up the entire American populace.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@56 If you think only 6 people in this country grade the president’s job performance based on what gas prices are, you’re even dumber than the average rightwinger.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@55 It’s a good enough reply to your display of jackassery in bringing it up. Only a jerk like you resents the president enjoying a Christmas vacation. Whenever the president goes somewhere, a large contingent of aides accompanies him, and there’s lots of security, for reasons which shouldn’t need explanation even to a moron like you. This couple aren’t the first citizens who’ve been inconvenienced by a presidential visit and won’t be the last. I once got stuck on an I-5 off ramp near Boeing Field for an hour, waiting for Reagan’s motorcade to go by. On another occasion, I got stuck at a downtown bus stop for 3 hours, in rainy winter weather, waiting for a bus that didn’t come because of Clinton’s security ring. It’s the nature of the beast, dummy. Republican or Democrat president, makes no difference, whenever a POTUS is in the vicinity, everybody else is inconvenienced. And that’s about the office, not the individual occupying the office; it’s about individuals’ convenience taking a back seat to the safety and security of our entire nation. So fuck off. Find something more constructive to do with your time. At least they got a phone call from Obama. I got nothing from Reagan, not even a postcard, just a cop yelling in my face to stay in my car and keep the windows closed.
Puddybud, THE One and Only spews:
Travis,
You were correct about ObummerCare…
Chuck Schumer would know…
And the latest polling…
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....-1130.html
and old polls where Americans also don’t like Obummercare are on WikiPedia!
Puddybud, THE One and Only spews:
@58,
Awwww… You poor IDIOT Wabbit. Comparing a motorcade passing by with a purposeful DEMAND for a golf course all day!
EPIC FAYLE IDIOT Wabbit!
DUMMOCRETINS suck!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@60 This is a free country. If you want to post drivel that makes you look like a blabbering fool that’s your God-given privilege.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Can’t afford college? Learn German. Germany will let you attend their colleges free, even if you’re American.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....tail=email
Darryl spews:
Person Playing Puddybud @ 52,
‘June 2009, Recession OVER! Google this truth “recession over June 2009″’
Wait. So…you didn’t realize that the end of a recession marks the rock bottom? Notice I was talking about obstructionism during the RECOVERY? Hey, asswipe, if you are going to try and engage me, knock off the STUPID act.
“Obummer owned the House and Senate until January 2011. No obstruction and nothing blocked during that time!
Now you are just out and out lying. To “own” the Senate requires 60 Senators in order to prevent filibusters.
Democrats (+ 2 Independents) achieved, on paper, 60 votes on July 7th 2009, when Al Franken was sworn in as a Senator. Unfortunately, Sen. Kennedy was totally absent for the 22 Senate working days from July 7th until he died (August 7). And an ailing Sen. Byrd missed about 3/4 of those days, as well, making it highly unlikely, being at 58 and occasionally 59, that Democrats could get past Republican obstructionism.
Sen. Mark Kirk took Sen. Kennedy’s place from Sept 25th until Feb 4th. The Ds + 2Is were, again, at 60 votes on paper. Unfortunately, Sen. Byrd was unable to be there for just over 1/2 of that period of 72 Senate working days. In other words, Democrats “owned” the Senate for a total of about 30 Senate working days in the 111th Congress.
These things are facts that can be looked up and verified. No need for you to ever lie about it again.
But, back to the point…Republicans have confessed to their blanket obstructionism. It is a documented fact, with behavioral verification. So why the lies here, Person Playing Puddybud?
Just because you play a character, doesn’t mean your character’s lies are not YOUR lies.
Thou shalt not lie, asshole.
Darryl spews:
Puddybud,
“And the latest polling…
http://www.realclearpolitics.c…..-1130.html and old polls where Americans also don’t like Obummercare are on WikiPedia!”
I don’t dispute what these polls find. I just think Wingdings like you and Bob don’t UNDERSTAND what they MEAN. It isn’t completely your fault, so sit back and we will use an evidence-based approach to understanding the opposition to the ACA.
Most polls don’t go beyond “approve” or “disapprove”, but the ones that do are quite telling. They almost always find that a substantial fraction of the “disapprove” people actually want more. …like government-run universal health care (instead of government regulated, private health insurance). It seems unlikely that these people also want to shut down access to reproductive health services (which is, after all, the context of the discussion).
For example this recent CNN poll (http://tinyurl.com/ka9sugp ) found about the ACA: 40% favor, 59% oppose. But when they ask those who oppose whether it is because it is “too liberal” or “not liberal enough” they find: Favor: 40%, Not liberal enough: 17%, Too liberal: 38%.
So…yes, a majority oppose the ACA, but not for the simple reason you think. There are plenty of other polls that have tried to understand the sub-group of those who oppose the ACA. And, specifically, whether the ACA should be repealed.
And interesting poll came from Pew earlier this year (http://www.people-press.org/20.....-approval/). It found on Obamacare: Approve 41%, Disapprove 53%. But when they asked those who disapprove, whether lawmakers should work to improve it, or kill it they found: Improve: 30% (of 53%), Kill 19% (of 53%).
In other words, fully 71% think the law should be in place, and only 19% want to kill it.
Interestingly, for the Republican sub-sample, Approve: 8%, Improve 40%, Kill 43%. A total of 48% of Republicans think the law should be in place, and only 43% who want it killed.
A WaPo poll (http://tinyurl.com/jw97bbh ) found something substantially similar, but using different wording. Overall they found of ACA: 43% approve, 52% disapprove.
When they asked those who disapprove about whether it should be repealed or allowed to go forward to see how it plays out, they get this result: 57% Approve+play out, 43% disapprove+repeal
And a Bloomberg News poll (http://tinyurl.com/n4v8axq) found something similar about ACA: It should be left alone: 13%, it may need small modifications, but we should see how it works: 51%, it should be repealed: 34%.
In other words, 64% approve+play out to 34% kill in that poll.
And, this, from a 2014 Kaiser poll (http://tinyurl.com/pabyhm6 ): Keep as is: 10%, Keep and improve: 49%, repeal and replace w/GOP alternative: 11%, Repeal and no replace: 18%.
Pretty overwhelming: Keep/Fix: 59%, Repeal: 29%.
So…now you know a little bit more about the subtleties behind the opposition. When people are probed about support and reasons for opposition or repeal, about 60% think it should be kept and, perhaps, improved. And only about 30% want the law killed.
Now you don’t need to bullshit/lie about it anymore. Right?
Don Joe spews:
@58
“Only a jerk like you resents the president enjoying a Christmas vacation.”
Wingnut — someone who believes that Pres. Obama is a dictator and a tyrant, yet will throw a hissy fit when he takes a vacation. Go figure.
Yawn spews:
Wingnut — someone who believes that Pres. Obama is a Christ like figure who farts rainbows and walks on water, while distributing wealth from a magic pouch.
Steve spews:
“Wingnut — someone who believes that Pres. Obama is a Christ like figure who farts rainbows and walks on water, while distributing wealth from a magic pouch.”
Too funny. You semi-human, goatfucking wingnuts are the only creatures on the planet who talk that way.
Darryl spews:
Yawn @ 66,
If you comment under multiple monikers in a single thread again, your comments will be moderated (i.e. will wait in a queue for someone to check your comment and ensure you follow this policy).
Roger Rabbit spews:
@66 Yes, believe it or not, there are people who actually swallow that shit whole — and then fart it out whole.
YLB disagreed and proved it. [Puddyliar was] wrong and YLB was right. spews:
Last I heard, dumping a million of something every day on a market that didn’t have it before tends to drive prices down:
http://www.reuters.com/article.....8M20141231
Thank you TWO TERM President Obama.
Roger Rabbit spews:
HAPPY NEW YEAR! Everyone! Including you miserable gutter-crawling trolls.
YLB disagreed and proved it. [Puddyliar was] wrong and YLB was right. spews:
The most stupid, the most credulous (as Lee said), bullshitting ASSHOLE (as Darryl said) that (I am relieved to say) I have NEVER EVER met.
It’s too scary and depressing to know a fiend like this exists somewhere out there.
YLB disagreed and proved it. [Puddyliar was] wrong and YLB was right. spews:
Yep that’s our resident Doc with the quack political views – unskewed polls and all.
Bugs Bunny spews:
@72, “It’s too scary and depressing to know a fiend like this exists somewhere out there.”
It said looking into the mirror.
YLB disagreed and proved it. [Puddyliar was] wrong and YLB was right. spews:
LMAO@74…
Yet another fiend that can only serve to inspire yet more wishes for a future of higher taxes on the rich and a Dem (even Hillary, especially Hillary!) in the White House.
Stay degenerate!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@75 I can’t say that I love Hillary all that much, but I would vote for her just because they hate her so much. Payback is … a Benghazi Bitch in the White House!
EvergreenRailfan spews:
On Tuesday, the Atlanta Streetcar went online, complementing the Heavy Rail mass transit system that was built with Federal Money that Senators Magnusson and Jackson originally got for Washington, before the voters rejected the Forward Thrust bond for it. The Atlanta Subway is still running, but King County voters did approve a multipurpose stadium at the same ballot in 1968. Whatever happened to that stadium? Forgot, in only 20 years of operation, it was not good enough anymore.
http://www.11alive.com/story/n...../21035545/
The Atlanta Streetcar vehicle is a little bigger than what is running in Portland, or South Lake Union, or will soon be running on First Hill.
Roger Rabbit spews:
This flu season is shaping up as a doozy, and the flu vaccine isn’t very effective, so I’m avoiding Republicans until the epidemic blows over.