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Open Thread 10/17

by Carl Ballard — Thursday, 10/17/13, 8:01 am

– 144 Representatives, all Republicans none from WA, voted to keep the government shut down and for the US to default. That’s gross in at least two ways.

– In case you missed it during the shutdown, a Seattle resident was awarded the Medal of Honor for heroism at the Battle of Ganjgal.

– The 60 Minutes strenuously fact-free assertions about disabled people “leeching” off the system are even more pernicious in this context, since they add to the narrative that the United States bears no collective responsibility to support any of our poorest citizens, regardless of their circumstances.

– Are you ready for Seattle Startup Week?

– Seattle has had a long history of women at the head of bike organizations (see also: Barb Culp). But this is the first time, at least to my knowledge, that a woman has held every top spot.

– I’ve never played either of the Plants versus Zombies games, but the psychology behind those sorts of games is interesting.

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  1. 1

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 8:36 am

    Doing a story of poor people or government employees “scamming” the system is an old stand-by for lazy news organizations. It focuses blame on the victim and isolates the handful that were going to get caught anyway. Like the Katrina victims, politicials hoping to make hay will feed them the story so they don’t have to do any research.

    Now have a 1%’er get rip the government off for millions of dollars, and all you will hear from the news media is silence – except perhaps a few cricket’s chirping.

  2. 2

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 8:47 am

    Our own Patty Murray is leading the Democratic negotians with Republican Paul Ryan on how to prevent another government shutdown in January.

    I would expect that they would take the rest of the week off, just out of exhaustion. But instead they are meeting for breakfast this morning to decide on a “famework” for future negotiations.

    Personally, I think Murray should just ask Ryan: Do you give up now, or do you want to try another round so you get to the point where the Repubican Party doesn’t exist any more?

  3. 3

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 9:23 am

    Happy Reopening of Government day.

    That Plants vs Zombies article was great!

  4. 4

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 9:30 am

    The conservative Tribal Media Talk radio people were in high gear, spinning the results of yesterday. In no way was it the tea bagger’s fault.
    A) Republican politicians who voted for the bill are surrender monkeys. It’s the RINOs fault.
    B) Renegging on the debt wouldn’t have been as bad as they were predicting. It’s the media’s fault.
    c) The American people are fickle bastards. Polls said the American people hated Obamacare and the deficit, but when republicans did something about them, the republicans were turned on and blamed. It’s those people’s fault.

  5. 5

    rhp6033 spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 10:20 am

    …”Right now, 375 of the 435 House of Representative seats up for election next year are rated as “safe” for one party or the other by political science professor Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia’s Center for the Study of Politics.

    And only eight are tabbed as ‘toss up’ by Sabato in his well-respected “Crystal Ball,” which tracks competition in federal contests…..

    “THROW THE BUMS OUT

  6. 6

    czechsaaz spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 10:32 am

    “Republicans are smelling like a rose. I think the last three weeks have been good for Republicans. It will help us in elections.” Ann Coulter, Oct. 17, 2013

    Stop, you’re killing me. Shut up. I need to pull over. Can’t drive…laughing. Hoo boy. Gotta..tee her…catch my breath. Ow, my ribs.

  7. 7

    ArtFart spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 11:23 am

    Can’t help but wonder if Sumner Redstone is trying to tart up CBS to sell it to Rupert Murdoch. I was also surprised to find that 60 Minutes is being rebroadcast on the Web–on CNBC.

  8. 8

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 11:53 am

    With the global financial system hanging in the balance, 40% of GOP senators voted “no” and fewer than 40% of GOP representatives voted “yes” to not going over the default cliff.

    That is amazing. We need to constantly remind voters that it was Democratic votes that passed this bill.

    Those votes were always there, and this entire fiasco would have been avoided from the beginning, if Republicans hadn’t changed the House rules so only the Speaker could allow a floor vote.

    For weeks, the Speaker did not allow a floor vote, because his party wanted to throw a tantrum. Every adverse impact of the shutdown and near-default is his and his party’s fault, and theirs alone.

  9. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 12:01 pm

    @6 Victories like this make defeat obsolete. You know, like walking out of Stalingrad with your hands in the air and declaring you won. After today, nobody will ever lose a war.

  10. 10

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 12:21 pm

    My co worker noticed this: what’s the top headlines on some news sites today?

    MSNBC
    If you want change, ‘win an election’
    In first extended remarks since the government reopened, president says the public has grown “fed up” with its government, and called on the GOP to end political brinkmanship.
    President: Shutdown caused ‘completely unnecessary damage’
    Up to $24B for nothing: Counting cost of the crisis
    First Read: It’s all pain, no gain for Republicans

    The Guardian
    Obama admits ‘there are no winners here’ after signing deal to end shutdown
    Government employees return to work after 16 days as president warns Washington against repeat of political brinkmanship

    CNN
    The winners and losers
    Shutdown mess may have actually benefitted a few – In every fight there are winners and losers, and the battle over the government shutdown is no exception.
    Is Cruz the male Sarah Palin?

    Fox News
    “What Ceiling?”
    IT DIDN’T SEEM LIKE IT THEN, but the winter of ’09 — when America’s debt was just over $10 trillion and Barack Obama was taking his first oath of office — seems like the ‘good ol’ days’ as five years and six shattered debt-ceilings later, America’s debt is set to hit $17 trillion, with no end in sight.
    Don’t buy the hype: US remains world’s safe haven despite DC’s antics
    READ: Senate bill to fund gov’t | Deal ends gov’t slimdown, but leaves future uncertain

    World Net Daily
    Bombshell: White House planned the shutdown
    Another black-mob attack? Look who’s not talking … Media, police refuse to provide details about teen predators

    National Enquirer
    SANDRA BULLOCK’s SHOCKING CONFESSION: I DON’T NEED A MAN!!!
    Bat Boy puts on 37 lbs
    Faces of Elvis and Michael Jackson seen in fruit smoothies.

    Wow, life in the bubble.

  11. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 1:46 pm

    CNBC reported this afternoon that GOP Sen. Mitch McConnell got an earmark for a $2.9 billion dam in the bill that reopened the government and averted a debt default.

  12. 12

    Michael spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 2:42 pm

    @11

    Versions of the water project measure passed both the House and Senate earlier this year.

    The measure, which is supported by the White House and doesn’t actually spend any money, would raise the amount authorized for the Olmsted Lock and Dam project to $2.9 billion from $775 million.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/.....z2i1AzAGN4

    But hey, if the Republican’s want to primary him and then watch their crazy guy lose to a Democrat I’m OK with that.

  13. 13

    herzog spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 4:25 pm

    Meanwhile, Sarah Palin, still trying to remain relevant, has announced she’s going to jump into the fight to help defeat McConnell. “We’ve only begun to fight” she tweats.

    http://www.kentucky.com/2013/1.....rylink=cpy

  14. 14

    Grumpy Mrs.Rabbit spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 5:44 pm

    Republican Bitch McConnell got a 2.9 billion dollar damn dam project (like a bribe) in order to avert a “debt crisis”. Gee, wouldn’t a damn dam project of 2.9 billion only worsen the government handout project that Republicans have been railing about? Oh, or is it okay as long as the government spending is for the Republican’s home state?

  15. 15

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Thursday, 10/17/13 at 9:16 pm

    Boy, that Steve Lonegan is such a sweet guy.

  16. 16

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 5:44 am

    Wow, Coming back to HA DUMMOCRETINS and it’s the SSDD. What’s very telling is Obummer and Congressional DUMMOCRETINS didn’t care abbout America. They would gladly shut down America and cause a credit default. The perfect RNC message for 2014 Elections.

    Congressional DUMMOCRETINS in da Senate under Scary Land Deal Reid stopped the dead hero veterans’ families from getting their $100,000 death benefit for their family members deaths. The perfect RNC message for 2014 Elections.

    Congressional DUMMOCRETINS called Republicans every vile name in the book. The perfect RNC message for 2014 Elections.

  17. 17

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 5:47 am

    @14,

    Well if you didn’t hang with Roger SENILE DUMBASS and LUNATIC Wabbit’s stoooooooooooopid web sites you’d learn some truths…

    When asked about the project, McConnell’s office referred TIME to Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), two members on the Senate committee that is responsible for appropriations. Their office said McConnell was not directly responsible for inserting the language. “According to the Army Corps of Engineers, 160 million taxpayer dollars will be wasted because of canceled contracts if this language is not included,” wrote Sen. Alexander in a statement to TIME. “Senator Feinstein and I, as chairman and ranking member of the Energy and Water Appropriations Subcommittee, requested this provision. It has already been approved this year by the House and Senate.” A spokesman for Sen. Feinstein agreed that the increased funding was nothing new.

    Just a little search would provide the CORRECT answer!

  18. 18

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 5:56 am

    Puddy held these back due to the teenager’s death. Very sad! Now Oh Look:

    The Daily Beast and ObummerCare…

    Chicago Tribune; Libtard Newspaper and ObummerCare

    NY Slimes and ObummerCare

    ObummerCare Champeen McClatchy going to kill their health care plans

  19. 19

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 6:40 am

    I knew it was too good to last….the village idiot found his way back.

  20. 20

    herzog spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:00 am

    Guess which TeaTard went out and secretly signed up for ObummerCare

  21. 21

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:19 am

    I knew it was too good to last….the Great Ouddy found his way back.

    Corrected to prove this is all SCHMUCKO-MORON knows… going ad hominem postal!

    See ya jackASS!

  22. 22

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:24 am

    @16
    This post shows what a little wind-up toy of the right the puddibigot is. His preacherman tells him whom to hate, and the teevee people on Fox tell him that big bad Obama tried to destroy government.

    The puddibigot is, of course, just a pale imitation of Michelle Bachmann:

    September 28:
    WaPo: “We’re very excited,” said Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.). “It’s exactly what we wanted, and we got it.”

    October 17:
    …tells Hannity, “he knew the Republicans were willing to be the adults in the room to make sure the county didn’t go into default.”

    Sort of like saying, “It was just a joke” when no one laughs at your racist comment.

    The Teahaddists, frightened, resentful, old, white people being left behind by history are lashing out and are perfectly willing to re-kindle the ‘War of Northern Aggression” and engage in sedition and nullification against the Union.

    And then there’s the puddibigot, scampering right along with the nitwit parade, desperate to be one of the stupid resentful old white people. I guess two out of four (stupid and resentful) ain’t bad.

  23. 23

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:25 am

    @21

    Great Ouddy

    WTF?

  24. 24

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:27 am

    @21
    Seems you’re too stupid to even spell your name correctly.

    How do you make it out of the house in the morning without killing yourself with a spoon at breakfast?

  25. 25

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:28 am

    Like I said, village idiot.

  26. 26

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:29 am

    So why did Obummer’s cronies give the ObummerCare contract to the same firm fired by Canadian provincial health officials? How cum you neva read about this on DUMMOCRETIN Loon sites?

  27. 27

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:32 am

    Michelle Bachmann again…

    “I voted ‘no’ on the bill because this means that Barack Obama got a hundred percent of what he wanted. His stand from the very beginning was no negotiation,” Bachmann, head of the House Tea Party Caucus, told Fox News’ Sean Hannity last night.

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

    Of course, in puddibigotland, this means…

    The perfect RNC message for 2014 Elections.

    Please proceed, puddibigot….

  28. 28

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:32 am

    How do you make it out of the house in the morning without killing yourself with a spoon at breakfast?

    Spoon? That’s the best you have SCHMUCKO-MORON? So Puddy mistyped the o instead of p.

    Right now jackASS SCHMUCKO-MORON flying at 34000 feet.

    It still……. Sux to be you.

  29. 29

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:35 am

    So…puddibigot can’t spell his name correctly @21, and @26 he can’t construct a link that works right.

    Par for the course, I suppose, with the illiterate home-schooled.

  30. 30

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:36 am

    Even the leftists at Politico are wondering about ObummerCare…

    No wonder Americans supported the Tea Party. Obummercare… it’s a real joke!

  31. 31

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:37 am

    Right now jackASS SCHMUCKO-MORON flying at 34000 feet.

    Are you offering that as an excuse for something, or are you bragging again…can’t tell.

    So, you dropped off the luxurious Nissan Maxima at the rental counter, and now you’re getting a DVT sitting in a cattle car eating peanuts and jousting for the armrest. Yawn.

  32. 32

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:38 am

    This post shows what a little wind-up toy of the right the puddibigot is. His preacherman tells him whom to hate, and the teevee people on Fox tell him that big bad Obama tried to destroy government.

    Ummm there your go again SCHMUCKO-MORON. Delusional as ever. Since we know you hate religion, everyone knows Satan has both your ears 24×7.

    It still…… Sux to be you!

  33. 33

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:38 am

    …or are you suggesting that being at 34000 feet makes you special, because the rest of us only get to fly at 30000 feet?

  34. 34

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:39 am

    Are you offering that as an excuse for something, or are you bragging again…can’t tell.

    So easily bated and mocked!

    Thanks for playing SCHMUCKO-MORON…

    It still…… Sux to be you!

  35. 35

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:41 am

    …or are you suggesting that being at 34000 feet makes you special, because the rest of us only get to fly at 30000 feet?

    Ad hominem attacks is all SCHMUCKO-MORON has left.

    It still…… Sux to be you!

  36. 36

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:42 am

    Hey SCHMUCKO-MORON…

    /snark

    It still…… Sux to be you!

  37. 37

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:43 am

    No wonder Americans supported the Tea Party.

    I think you’ve just given up, or that cabin at 34000 isn’t properly pressurized. You’re making this WAY too easy.

    Pew.

    Gallup (TP already cratering before the shutdown)

    NBC/WSJ

    You really are a buffoon, puddibigot.

  38. 38

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:46 am

    @34, @35, @36

    Thank you, puddibigot, for reminding everyone that you brag about ridiculous things and that you have no idea what many common words mean, including ‘snark’ and ‘ad hominem’.

    You really don’t realize how stupid you appear, do you?

  39. 39

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:49 am

    Tea Party racism… the standard meme of HA DUMMOCRETINS. So the Taxed Enough Already Party hating higher taxes is racist SCHMUCKO-MORON? Well why aren’t you donating a higher level of taxes back to the federal government? Oh wait that means you are a racist too!

    It still…… Sux to be you!

  40. 40

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:49 am

    I like the acronym ‘TP’ for Tea Party, it just kinda fits, doncha think?

  41. 41

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:52 am

    @38,

    EPIC FAYLE SCHMUCKO-MORON! Seems you really listened to SATAN today. And you translate that hatred to your son. DAYUM!

    It still…… Sux to be you.

  42. 42

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:54 am

    @39

    Like I said, I think the partial pressure of O2 wherever you are is too low, or you’re huffing glue. You’re making this too easy…

    Lee Atwater…

    You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”

    It’s a direct arc from the Southern Strategy, through Philadelphia Mississippi and Ronnie ‘States’ Rights” Reagan, to the old/white/frightened/resentful Teahaddists.

  43. 43

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:55 am

    Meanwhile in other news not centered around the loathsome SCHMUCKO-MORON

    Insurers say the federal health-care marketplace is generating flawed data that is straining their ability to handle even the trickle of enrollees who have gotten through so far, in a sign that technological problems extend further than the website traffic and software issues already identified.

    {uddy loves that… the trickle!

    And you can’t keep your doctor. Puddy glad SCHMUCKO-MORON ain’t my doctor!

  44. 44

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:57 am

    Seems you really listened to SATAN today.

    Oh my, tears are streaming down my cheeks I’m laughing (at you) so hard….I’m glad I didn’t have a mouthful of coffee…

    The devil made me do it!

    Too, too funny.

  45. 45

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 7:58 am

    And you translate that hatred to your son.

    Just like CheapshotBob…when you’ve got nothin’, go after someone’s family.

    Stay classy, ouddibigot!!

  46. 46

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 8:01 am

    {uddy

    Is Puddy! Right ring finger not working well today.

  47. 47

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 8:04 am

    Just like CheapshotBob…when you’ve got nothin’, go after someone’s family.

    Puddy’s sons been attacked on HA by HA DUMMOCRETINS for years SCHMUCKO-MORON. Puddy has a lot of stuff today. All those links Puddy posted just today are my stuff.

    Waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaa call a waaaaaambulamps!

    It still… Sux to be you!

  48. 48

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 8:10 am

    So, Satan wants everyone to have health care, but God wants his chosen few to be so wealthy that they could never spend it all in a thousand lifetimes and squash everyone they see like the insects they are?

    Good to know.

  49. 49

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 8:11 am

    Oh DAYUM,

    This is toooooooooooooooooo damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn fuuuuuuuuuunnnnnny

    Copyright Infringement by ObummerCare’s site?

    First everyone can see these DUMMOCRETINS can’t program and now they removed the copyright notice headers?

  50. 50

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 8:11 am

    Professor Krugman lays out the damage done by seditious Teahaddist Republicans since 2010…

    …it’s important to recognize that the economic damage from obstruction and extortion didn’t start when the G.O.P. shut down the government. On the contrary, it has been an ongoing process, dating back to the Republican takeover of the House in 2010.

    …“crisis driven” fiscal policy — which has been the norm since 2010 — has subtracted about 1 percent off the U.S. growth rate for the past three years. This implies cumulative economic losses — the value of goods and services that America could and should have produced, but didn’t — of around $700 billion.

    He quotes this report – from Pete Peterson of all places – that quantifies the damage done by the saboteurs of the right-wing Republicans who hold our government hostage.

    Krugman again, after dissing Peterson’s complaint about ‘uncertainty’ – the confidence fairies again – but goes after the real meat in the report, the lack of government action in the midst of a demand crisis…

    The main driver of their estimates is the sharp fall since 2010 in discretionary spending as a share of G.D.P. — that is, in spending that, unlike spending on programs like Social Security and Medicare, must be approved by Congress each year. Since the biggest problem the U.S. economy faces is still inadequate overall demand, this fall in spending has depressed both growth and employment.

    Krugman points out that the Teahaddists in the House are both morally stunted and economically feckless…

    Slashing benefits to the unemployed because you think they have it too easy is cruel even in normal times, but it has the side effect of destroying jobs when the economy is already depressed. Defending tax cuts for the wealthy while happily scrapping tax cuts for ordinary workers means redistributing money from people likely to spend it to people who are likely to sit on it.

    The southern/while/old/frightened caucus that the Teahaddists represent – and ouddybigot defends – are likes zombies that just won’t stop in their mindless efforts to drive the entire country not into a ditch, but off a cliff.

    Perhaps their expecting to be saved by invoking the ‘Rapture’?

  51. 51

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 8:14 am

    Puddy glad SCHMUCKO-MORON ain’t my doctor!

    If I were your doctor, the first thing I would advise is to stop the glue huffing. And second, give your right hand a rest.

  52. 52

    K spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 8:29 am

    To repeat the obvious, Pud, we had an election. One guy said he would undo the affordable care act, the other was it’s proponent. The guy who wanted to undo it lost. There was a clear opportunity for the American people to get what you say they want, and that’s not the way it went. Now the Republicans stomp their feet and hold their breath and shut down the government. Remember, the Senate sent over a budget. We would not need the continuing resolution that this argument was over if the House was not AFRAID to negotiate over the budget.

  53. 53

    K spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 8:31 am

    So no, the Democrats in the Senate and the President did not shut down the government, the Republicans did. ANd if you go back to some of their election speeches, they said it was their plan.

    Stop the big lie

  54. 54

    Ekim spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 8:56 am

    Don't Laugh. Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.) Urges GOP To Declare War On Ted Cruz. Stop Laughing.

    This is one of those weeks that puts a smile on my face, a song in my heart and a spring in my step. The GOP are crushed and humiliated; Cory Booker wins his Senate race; hostilities break out between Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter; and The Houston Chronicle suffers buyers remorse over Calgary Ted. Could it possibly get even better?

    Why, yes…yes, it could.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....p-Laughing

  55. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 9:17 am

    Tom Foley has died.

  56. 56

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 9:20 am

    This thread suddenly reminds me of a yahoo in a pickup with a load of refuse looking for a roadside ditch to dump his trash into.

  57. 57

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 9:43 am

    This thread suddenly reminds me of a yahoo in a pickup with a load of refuse looking for a roadside ditch to dump his trash into.

    A yahoo in a pickup… Nice description of the SCHMUCKO-MORON! Whitey is always seen in a pickup!

    Thanks SENILE Wabbit.

  58. 58

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 9:48 am

    So no, the Democrats in the Senate and the President did not shut down the government, the Republicans did.

    Oh really? Who didn’t sign the various house bills “K”? DUMMOCRETIN Harry Reid. Who made the pentagon not deliver those death benefits Fisher House had to cover due to Senate intrangigence? DUMMOCRETINS. Who closed the national parks to WWII Veterans? Obummer DUMMOCRETINS. DUMMOCRETINS don’t care about the common man… that’s why the individual mandate is still there while so many other parts of Obummercare are delayed!

    Sux to be “K”!

  59. 59

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 10:07 am

    @57 Uncle Puddles – (Sen Tom Cruz’s legislative assistant?)

    Oh really? Who didn’t sign the various house bills “K”? Harry Reid.

    You really should go take a junior highschool civics class. Neither the Senate Majority Leader nor any member of the Senate signs bills which are offered by the House.

    Given that learning appears to be really difficult for you, try this I’m Just a Bill

  60. 60

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 10:18 am

    Another hilarious example of Republican irresponsibility and hypocrisy via Charles Mudede over on the Slog

    Tea Party person fighting with a bank?

    <Tea Party aligned Georgia Rep. Tom Graves (R), who castigates Washington for fiscal irresponsibility, reached an out of court settlement Wednesday after he was sued for defaulting on a $2.2 million loan — which his attorney argued is the bank's fault for lending him the money in the first place.

    Graves and his business partner Chip Rogers — who is the state Senate's Republican majority leader — took out a $2.2 million loan from the Bartow County Bank in 2007 to buy and renovate a local motel. The project soon went belly-up.

    If you learn nothing else, understand that you should never loan money to a teabagging Republican.

  61. 61

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 11:05 am

    You really should go take a junior highschool civics class. Neither the Senate Majority Leader nor any member of the Senate signs bills which are offered by the House.

    You should really stop being an idiot FlubScout. The Senate “Compromise” has a HR # on it, because by law all funding bills start in the house. Even CNN said that on their show Flubscout!

    Wow Flubscout… Sex to be you too!

  62. 62

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 11:14 am

    Now the truth is starting to trickle out about Obummercare… But wait this can’t be true… higher health care prices?

    What has happened, at least so far, presents itself in several layers. One key problem, which to date has been the most prominent in public, has to do with a late-in-the-game decision to require users to go through a complex account-creation process before even reaching any coverage options. Administration officials apparently went back and forth several times on this question, and the ultimate decision required the creation of a series of patches over an already developed site in a very short time. Most of the problems people have faced so far are a function of that decision, and have had to do with creating user accounts and so getting through the very first steps involved in purchasing coverage. Some journalists and analysts have speculated that this decision was made in order to prevent people from seeing premium costs before they could also see any subsidies they might be eligible for, so that the shock of higher prices could be contained and so that simply curious observers and journalists couldn’t get a picture of premium costs in the various states. This explanation strikes me as plausible, and it struck several of the people I spoke with as plausible, but none of them could confirm it. It may be true, but it’s surely not the only possible explanation. Whatever the cause, that decision has created crippling problems that are still largely unresolved.

    Just hiding the facts ma’am, hiding the facts.

    Puddy knows why SCHMUCKO-MORON ad hominem attacks Puddy. That’s all SCHMUCKO-MORON has. Claims Puddy takes drugs and whacks off.

    Well earlier this week we say how DELUSIONAL Schmucko was. Puddy guesses there must be some powerful LSD SCHMUCKO-MORON can get his hands on. His DELUSIONS are grandeur!

    The link: http://nationalreview.com/corn.....uval-levin

  63. 63

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 11:14 am

    Hey person who pretends to be Puddy, where are all those republican jobs bills?
    Oh yeah, too busy shutting down the government and crashing the economy and taking away women’s rights.

  64. 64

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 11:19 am

    More Obummercare failure covered by the NY Slimes…

    In March, Henry Chao, the chief digital architect for the Obama administration’s new online insurance marketplace, told industry executives that he was deeply worried about the Web site’s debut. “Let’s just make sure it’s not a third-world experience,” he told them.
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    Two weeks after the rollout, few would say his hopes were realized.

    For the past 12 days, a system costing more than $400 million and billed as a one-stop click-and-go hub for citizens seeking health insurance has thwarted the efforts of millions to simply log in. The growing national outcry has deeply embarrassed the White House, which has refused to say how many people have enrolled through the federal exchange.

    The Tea Party was right. Obummercare is a fiasco.

  65. 65

    Puddybud spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 12:09 pm

    Fascist Pigsty… There is no Pretending… This is Puddy. Jobs bills… Short Memory eh? Must be that 24 hour moronic moonbat memory malady you HA DUMMOCRETINS continue to possess…

    9-14-2011 – Republican Louie Gohmert introduced “American Jobs Act of 2011” into the House as H.R. 2911. Senate DUMMOCRETINS shot it down.

    Obummer submitted a jobs bill in 2011… Obama appointee to the Economic Recovery Advisory Board and Harvard economist Martin Feldstein, pegged Obummer’s jobs bill around $200,000 per job.

    Then there is this in WikiPedia.

    So yes Fascist Pigsty there were jobs bills.

    Butt, Obummer promised us in 2009 500,000 jobs per year! What happened Fascist Pigsty? Obummer had all three branches until January 2011.

  66. 66

    K spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 12:13 pm

    Pud- which party had candidates running on a promise to shut down the government?

  67. 67

    K spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 12:17 pm

    And again, the race for Executive gave the opportunity to choose on ACA, the Judiciary found it to be constitutional, and only 1/2 of one branch opposes it.

    And they should get their way. Why?

    Perhaps if your Republicans did not run so many batshit crazy candidates for Senate (see Sharron Angle, Christine O’Donnell and others) it might be different

  68. 68

    K spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 12:18 pm

    How many jobs bills compared to how many ACA repeal bills?

  69. 69

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 12:34 pm

    On the shutdown, and the treat of default….

    September 28:
    WaPo: “We’re very excited,” said Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.). “It’s exactly what we wanted, and we got it.”

    teh puddibigot has run away from this fact already, so I’ll bring it up again, as he spins and spins and spins….the shutdown, the default, the defund, the contempt for government are all theirs – the Teahaddists who down deep in their souls hate America, and Americans.

  70. 70

    Ekim spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 12:34 pm

    @65,

    And the RETHUGS only have control of the house because they gerrymandered elections in a number of states.

  71. 71

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 12:35 pm

    K, don’t try to engage him with an expectation of rationality…he is either too stupid, or too dishonest to ever be capable of that.

    Just taunt him, it’s fun to make him fling poo.

  72. 72

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 2:02 pm

    Personally, for all the abuse the person who pretends to be Puddy takes here and how pointless his rantings are, he’s either in some sort of twisted S&M performance art production with his boyfriend or is so attention starved at home from his wife and at the tea bagger hall, that we are the only people who will acknowledge him.

  73. 73

    Ekim spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 3:18 pm

    @72,

    You forget the most obvious possibility:

    GOATBOY is a paid RETHUG TROLL and his PAYMASTER is the SATANIC DUAL, the ROACH BROTHERS. Think about it. Where was GOATBOY during the RETARD SHUTDOWN?

  74. 74

    Puddybud called a bigot by SCHMUCKO! Butt minorities can't be bigots! spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 5:11 pm

    teh puddi[Puddy name purposely misspelled and the rest is daily SCHMUCKO-MORON gibberish] has run away from this fact already, so I’ll bring it up again, as he spins and spins and spins

    Hey, shitforbrains… Puddy hasn’t run away from anything.

    1) You bark for Puddy. You did today over me flying
    2) Puddy doesn’t jump for no one especially you SCHMUCKO-MORON
    3) Ad hominem is all you have
    4) Your insipid arguments are direct from 24 hr DUMMOCRETIN web sites. Puddy gets his info from Chicago Tribune, NY Slimes, Time Magazine!

  75. 75

    Puddybud called a bigot by SCHMUCKO! Butt minorities can't be bigots! spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 5:13 pm

    Personally, for all the abuse the person who pretends to be Puddy takes here and how pointless his rantings are, he’s either in some sort of twisted S&M performance art production with his boyfriend or is so attention starved at home from his wife and at the tea bagger hall, that we are the only people who will acknowledge him

    Oh this will be saved in the DUMMOCRETIN pantheon of HA libtard stoooooooooopidy! Puddy posted msm links!

    Thanks for playing Fascist Pigsty.

  76. 76

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 5:33 pm

    Well, TeaPottie prophet and messianic cult figurehead Sarah Palin seems to be going for the shotgun approach with all the right key words in some very strange places.

    She certainly does represent the “conservative” element in this country.

    Then again, so did W.C. Fields.

  77. 77

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 5:45 pm

    Yeah, stoned and surfing YouTube. again.

    What a fucking strange world we live in.

  78. 78

    czechsaaz spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 9:56 pm

    @17

    Hey, I’m going to agree with Piddles. (Still here, no thunder crack, no brimstone)

    That particular project is necessary and the funds have been budgeted before. It’s necessary. In a normal world, it wouldn’t need to be an earmark. Legislators from say Utah, would realize that putting the lives and property of a bunch of people at risk because they vote in another state wouldn’t be a good enough reason to vote down an infrastructure project.

    I’ll tell you a little story. A guy ran for city council and his campaign raison d’etre was to kill a pedestrian/bike overpass that was a waste of money. (Blah, blah, blah..”roads are for cars” blah blah…”It only benefits a couple bike riders who we all know flaunt the law and deserve be menaced by drivers” blah blah..) He knocked on my door. I asked him if he knew that the project was near a middle school. He did know that. I asked if he knew that the state and King county had rated the current intersection as the most high priority project due to the danger the current configuration posed to pedestrians. (Built in the 70s in a area that had 10% of the population then as now.) He did not know that. I asked if he knew that people representing us in DC had got the feds to kick in 75% of the cost. He did know that and stammered something about excess spending, the deficit and putting a burden on future generations if we don’t CUT OUR SPENDING RIGHT NOW. (This is the point I knew I had him.)

    I asked him if he ever wondered what the liability suit payout might be if a 12 year-old middle school student got killed in the intersection and a semi-competent lawyer discovered that it was rated the most dangerous intersection in the state and the city/county/state didn’t try to fix it.

    He lost the election badly.

    People who are against government spending just to be against government spending are morons. The tea party voters are morons. (BTW, the “Lets get McConnelL out” tea-partiers have the most to gain from this story. Not likely KY sends a Democrat to the Senate under any circumstances. The craziest of crazy guy with an R on the ballot probably wins that race unless he gets gay married in WA the week before the election and the bible thumpers all stay home.)

  79. 79

    czechsaaz spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 10:06 pm

    Got a “no on 522” call tonight.

    Simple question that will stop the “Package design will drive up costs” B.S.

    “They’ll have special packaging just for Washington so we’ll pay more.”

    me “They have regional packaging all the time. I’m watching baseball right now. Last year the San Francisco Giants won the World Series and Budweiser put out Orange bottles in the Bay Area. Do you think they tried to sell those in Los Angeles? Did the Bay Area pay more for a six pack while they were on the shelf? Of course not. But please….go on. You were saying package redesign is going to cause a huge change in prices?”

  80. 80

    czechsaaz spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 10:07 pm

    On a related note….

    Thanks Cardinals. As long as it isn’t the Dodgers I’m O.K. with it.

  81. 81

    Michael spews:

    Friday, 10/18/13 at 10:28 pm

    (Reuters) – The Kansas Supreme Court on Friday indefinitely suspended the law license of former state Attorney General Phill Kline for violating 11 rules of professional conduct in connection with his prosecution of abortion providers.

    In a 154-page report, the seven-member court unanimously found that Kline failed to recognize the line between “overzealous advocacy” and operating within the limits of the law and his professional obligations.

    “The violations we have found are significant and numerous, and Kline’s inability or refusal to acknowledge or address their significance is particularly troubling in light of his service as the chief prosecuting attorney for this state and its most populous county,” the court wrote.

    Well, good. Nice to see that there are still a few people in Kansas that care about the rule of law.

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